>>24950355First, this catholic preacher adds to the text, because I'm following along, when he talked about Isaiah 6, and there's nothing about Purgatory. That's just a catholicism.This catholic preacher is using the Book of Isaiah very strangely. This is all about the time around the Babylonian capture, and this is about the time before. So the unclean lips isn't about the Christian concept of "sin", but the punishment they're taking on, so after they're freed from Bayblon, Israel will be uplifted so high that all the other nations will realize their mistakes and join in worshipping yhwh. That's what the Book of Isaiah is all about.Beyond that, the entire intro is pretty standard cathloic preaching about everyone being sinners, etc. I'm only 2 minutes in, and this isn't what I was expecting. This is some preacher, preaching.The entire concept of "sin" that Isaiah is talking about in chapter 6, is talking about the inadequacy of being part of a theophany, not that Isaiah is a literal sinner. As the rest of the chapter is about saying why they deserve to be taken into Babylon.Though, when I'm 6 minutes in, it's not much different. This is standard catholic preaching. I thought we were going to be doing a deep dive into a complex topic.But to actually talk about the preaching, rather than what was actually interesting(The Book of Isaiah).>Compunction - regret/remorse for past actions, a pricking actionThat's not something you get from religion, but something we evolved to have, as a social species. It's good to regret past mistakes, learn from them, and improve yourself because of them. Were you thinking this was an exclusive ability of a catholic/christian?Don't wait for when you are dying to do these things. Standard advice that every culture has. This just has a catholic/christian theme on it. Before the prayer at the end, it references Numbers 20, when the Israelites were in the desert, after the exodus from Egypt. They drink water from a rock. Fun reference to tie into how your faith will help you do great things, just as yhwh did miracles for his people in their times of need(so long as you do what he says). Since christians think that they're the replacement Israel, it's clever imagery to use.tldr: The regret/remorse you feel, after you make mistakes("sin"), will help you in the future. You'll remember making the mistakes, and the efforts you put into making amends(though for the christian, that means pray and ask for forgiveness, and it never once talks about the actual process of making amends with those you did the mistakes to). The process of making amends may take a long time, and in this time you'll have to live with compunction(the regret/remorse). This will allow you to not make those mistakes("sins") in the future, allowing you to change your ways, and stop being someone who habitually makes mistakes("sins") in your community and with yourself.Next time, no preachers preaching a sermon, and actually dive into the text.
>>24946388Ironic since you sound like a sassy gay guy
>>24950481direct biblical analysis is more of a protestant thing, down the hall to the left. Scott Hahn who is a calvanist to catholic convert does more directly related scripture analysis (and John Bergsma), you would probably like them. Certainly you can realize that this 12 minute sermon which has no relation to the problem of evil or some surface level argue about the nature of God is indictative of a much deeper and rich spiritual life that one can engage in, which I am referring to.
>>24950493>direct biblical analysis is more of a protestant thing, down the hall to the left.Yeah, catholics and orthodox christians hate reading their book. They let their priests decide what parts they should know.>Scott Hahn who is a calvanist to catholic convert does more directly related scripture analysis (and John Bergsma), you would probably like themDoubtful, but thanks for the suggestions none the less. I much prefer the academic approach.>Certainly you can realize that this 12 minute sermon which [...] is indictative of a much deeper and rich spiritual life that one can engage in, which I am referring to.Certainly you can realize that me typing to the character limit, half discussing the parts of the old testament that the preacher referenced, slightly less than half directly talking about what the preacher was preaching about(compunction and how to use it to stop making mistakes), and a little bit talking about my reaction to what I was watching. That this was engaging with what he pulled references from, and their use or misuse in his sermon. That this was talking directly about what he was trying to teach you, by summarizing what he said, in my own words. Surely you can realize that this "much deeper and rich spiritual life that one can engage in", is just the standard human experience that literally every culture engages in. Certainly you would have seen that I was engaged with the topic, and was able to understand what was being said.>[...] has no relation to the problem of evil or some surface level argue about the nature of God [...]He wouldn't have been able to resolve any of the various problems of evil/suffering in 12 minutes, as it's the #1 deconversion reason for people leaving christianity. Certainly he wouldn't have actually been able to argue about any level of god's nature(surface or not), in 12 minutes. Aquinas likely made the best attempt at discussing the nature of your god(and it took him around 300 pages to discuss everything he felt he needed to in Summa contra Gentiles Book 1), through the negation process, of listing all the things that your god isn't. I'm not aware of anyone doing a better job than Aquinas in the ~1000 years before him or the ~800 years after him. So there's no possible way that a preacher would outdo one of the best writers that christianity ever had.Certainly you can admit that I was able to achieve whatever expectations you had from me watching that sermon. I would say overachieve, but I'll be fine with you admitting that I, at the very least, managed to achieve them. Showing that atheists do understand, even without having the Holy Spirit to guide in all truths.
>>24945026Jesus The Son of Man by Gibran (along with his other works besides The Prophet) imo ought to get more attention than it does.>Once every hundred years Jesus of Nazareth meets Jesus of the Christian in a garden among the hills of Lebanon. And they talk long; and each time Jesus of Nazareth goes away saying to Jesus of the Christian, "My friend, I fear we shall never, never agree".(from Sand and Foam)
>>24947071They are honorary white (unlike jews)
>>24949442No it's not. It's an explanation of why people become ideologically possessed and the rotten fruit such bears.
>>24949723Their values are ultimately just Christianity after people stopped being able to take the Bible seriously. Justin Martyr even asserted that Jesus was exceptionally ugly. Christianity is about taking holiness and making it synonymous with weak, oppressed, downtrodden, penurious, and making evil synonymous with the Prince of this World, powers, principalities, the Whore of Babylon (Rome, Babylon).
cant wait to see copies of the Odyssey with "now a major motion picture" on the front in my local bookstore
>>24945192nice selfie, you fucking retard
Two Weeks Left Edition>Old:>>24936611>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24950452Leftists do have power. Academia is highly sympathetic to communism and downright servile to all forms of progressive identity politics. Modern progressive ideology is just applying the seething envy inherent in Marxism to every hierarchy in society instead of just class. Well, in reality it's just a bunch of separate emotional reactions and vying for social status, but you could frame it my way too.>>24950455No, you go back to your containment board, /lgbt/.
>no u!
Chuds please order books from Baen and stfu.
Just finished Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, and I have no clue why it isn't more popular. What an amazing series
>>24950505It's long, slow-paced and old. That's why.
So they adapted a Pynchon novel for filmI've never read Pynchon before but like"One Battle After Another" - what the FUCK is this turbo jogger leftist power fanstasy bullshit?I always realized Hollywood is a bunch left-leaning cucks but holy fuck they outdid themselves with this one.The level of blatant propaganda is on par with fucking commie films of Stalin's era or something.This guy made "There will be blood" and now this what the fuck. This movie doesn't even feel real, it's a caricature of a movie.Tell me bros is Pynchon cringe plebbitor shit like that and not based? Le speaking truth to power
>>24949600way to out urself as a 'let
>>24949550Chesterton is the best novelist of the 20th century.
>>24946217this movie is garbage, it's like antifa's wet dream
>>24946217it's a caricature of all the right-left discourseSimpsons level stupidity and characters
>>24946229The meter's all over the place.Doesn't scan.
33: Uncle Tom's Cabin?44: Mill on the Floss?
Not a lot of foreign ones left.Remaining I see 2 Japanese, 2 Russian and a French guy.If I can figure out the language translated from I can spot the 1 French guy.2 passages use Japanese names so those are out easily.48 has that Russian workcamp feel to it to me 68 has refid in it which as far as I know is no English word. Meaning it was left untranslated. Usually this means it was a foreign word in the original. Sounds French which one might think means the work is French but no! It would be translated if everything was French and Russians love using French words in their works.So I say the remaining 51 is Guy de Maupassant
>>24949738And even if refid isn't French but some other foreign word I think it still holds up because snooty Frenchmen would never use a non French word in their writing.
>>24949508>33: Uncle Tom's Cabin?>44: Mill on the Floss?Both correct.
>>24949738>>24949747>logic>logic>51 is Guy de MaupassantVery rare that long chains of logic lead to the right answer but this one does and pretty much for all the right reasons.While it’s technically only a single answer, I think there's enough additional information to warrant an animated girl.
Any good books on Prime Ministers of Canada?
>>24950479they're all sex pests every last one of them so don't even bother lad
2025 is almost over. What's the best book you read this year?
>>24947281An Adultery
Consider the Lobster
>>24947281Balzac and the little Seemstress
«LAS TIERRAS FLACAS» • AGUSTÍN YÁÑEZ.
>>24949471I think getting old makes you prioritise what you actually like, which for many old men is the topics Ambrose writes about
I regularly see threads on JP and Zizek but less commonly Jung and rarely Lacan.I have been reading Lacan on and off throughout the year and it has been pretty revelatory to me. If I were to try to take a stab at summarizing Lacan for anons that haven’t studied him, basically everything is fake and gay, anything not fake and gay is real, and >you are a subject beneath the fake and gay but not exactly a 1:1 product of the fake and gay. Your motif should be to recognize that to understand the real through anything fake and gay is impossible, therefore traverse the fake and gay knowing it’s fake and gay in accordance to your desire(TM). If anyone with more experience in Lacanian thought disagrees with my shit take, feel free to correct. Question: Why is Lacan not talked about as often as Freud and Jung are, or perhaps in general? Is his thought too subversive? Is it because he’s French? Pic related, worst mistake of my life
This is horrifying. Is there a better way than Christianity to transcend this?
>>24948191Not real philosophy. Not a real philosopher.
>>24948191> Is there a better way than Christianity to transcend this?No, retard. That's the point.
>>24948845there's a very thin delusion protecting us from total destruction
>>24950150So he has nothing to say
>>24948191>GirardWHOOPS! It's another episode of unoriginal thieving leftist French faggot steals 200yr old ideas and repackages them as new using different names an terms!!Sad!Keep it up, last week we had a Le Bon plagiarist with S&S, this week you unironically post Girard. I'm happy to do this with the entire French left, who are an embarrassment!
I've noticed that a lot of sophist philosophizing is based around this concept of "nonexistence". But it seems obvious that "nonexistence" just isn't a real thing right?How can something exist that by its own definition does not exist? It's just a nonsense idea made up of circular reasoning. There cannot exist a thing that doesn't exist. Everything that exists exists and there is nothing else. Existence by definition is an all encompassing concept. You can't logically accept that things exist and then turn around and say there are things that don't.And logically the concept of nonexistence is already nonsensical but if you believe in determinism the idea really just gets defeated many times over.
>>24950487>There's nothing that doesn't existRetarded frogposter.
>read a book>it's good>read it again>it's even goodername even one time this has happened
>>24943875VERE ARE ZE BOOKS, LEBOVSKI??!?!!?!
>be french canadian hick>have incredible passion for auto racing and mechanics>have no money, have to steal tools, have to live in an RV with your family>somehow work your way from racing snowmobiles to racing single seaters and get noticed for beating a former F1 champion >get the most prestigious seat in auto racing>almost become world champion but come up just short>stay loyal to the most romantic team in auto racing during their worst era and put up some of the most legendary drives of all time in subpar equipment>be the only everyman in a sport full of rich dicks>finally get a car that can win you the championship >get betrayed by your team>die in a horrible accident The book writes itself. I cry every time.
>>24943875>any Dostoevsky book>Laurus
>>24943875If you liked Ulysses at Stephen's age, you should read it again at Bloom's age.
>>24943888>>24943936>>24943959/lit/ on a heater
Redpill me on Dr. William Pierce. Are his works worth reading?
>>24948069pierces self insert character has seggz with a slut whomst'd've somehow joined a terrorist org. this contradicts what was known to george orwell about female nature, but pierce is a faggot so he doesnt know that. naturally, pierces self insert character of the slut use contraceptives. contraception had been illegal shortly prior to this obscenity being published, and while young men today dont know that, pierce surely did. pierces vision for the future was EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE NOW BUT WITH LESS BROWN PEOPLE
>>24941203daily reminder that Jesus Christ is the Savior of all white nations and the true greeks and scots are proud to have been His first converts
>>24945217hey mahometan does erhabi have a word for a man doing sex acts with a fertile woman that are intented not to result in pregnancy? like not the woman preventing pregnancy but the man helping her to prevent pregnancy but also sort of pretending to try to get her pregnant at the same time
>>24949104What.....go ask a scholar or sheikh. Come Join Islam Brother
>>24948069Oh hey, that post was me.>personally, i find it telling that in pierce's ideal world, two whole continents are rendered uninhabitableIIRC he had to basically write the last quarter or third of the book in quite a rush. Deadlines for a magazine or something like that.> i was told this was the work that radicalized timothy mcveigh.McVeigh came back with some anti-fed baggage from the Gulf War (among other things, he had personally witnessed the Highway of Death) and then was fully radicalized by the events of Waco and Ruby Ridge and had no real connection to white nationalism/white separatism/neo-nazism/etc. He had some association with the fringe right but mostly the anti-government flavor, though there were plenty of racialist armed groupd in that space as well. Pretty much all of those organizations went tits-up in the 90s when the FBI to start paying more attention to them, but sadly I have never found a decent treatment of this interesting and uniquely American cultural phenomenon.Ultimately my two cents, having looked into this quite a bit in the past, is mostly that he viewed the book similarly to how I outlined it - as a list of suggestions for effective acts of terrorism against the federal government, and that he picked the biggest one he thought he could manage. The connection and inspiration is undeniable but despite plenty of looking I've been unable to turn up any evidence that he associated in any significant way with racialist or "hate" groups.>i doubt it. it's just not good.As literature? It's adolescent at best. In a broader context, I find it fascinating.
Do Tolkiendrones realize that fantasy existed before Lord of the Rings and that it suffered greatly from Big Fat Fantasy and other sloppy derivatives that grew like viruses from Tolkien's wen? https://voca.ro/1Rwc7lMX0hfT
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>>24949835You thought that was clever, didn't you? You unwashed manbaby.
>>24939820I'm writing a “Futuristic existential dystopian meta-epic with elements of philosophical science fiction, apocalyptic fiction, post-apocalyptic societal reconstruction, spacefaring coming-of-age, and speculative political thriller". Y'all need to stop reading genreslop and blaming other people when it's boring and derivative lol
Tolkien didn't fucking invent European folklore. Elves, dwarves, and magic rings have been part of our heritage forever. Tolkien was a remixer, just like every artist.People copy Tolkien because he was big. It's true he mollycoddles readers, and the more retarded factions of the right idolise him because he presents a cheap and fake nostalgia of a world before things like ethics and relations got complex. But subversion of something flawed isn't automatically good just because it's a subversion, same for originality. Good art that moves on from Tolkien will complexify the message, making it more true, while leaving what was already true in it.
>>24949708>christian author being better at creating things>the thing in qustion being genreslop for manchildrenKek
The libretto is considered great poetry and drama of itself, accounted a masterpiece by manyLast week was Das Rheingold which covered the forging of the ring of power, its curse, and the jealousy and death that follows after the lust for itThis week is Die WalküreLink to discord server if you want to keep track of threadshttps://discord.gg/XhFGx57VKm
>>24950331Apparently >>24950336I use a streaming service. Most will give you a free trial. Metropolitan Opera has the most traditional production but there are a lot of options. YouTube also has several productions The work can be enjoyed pretty well by listening while reading the libretto, especially since the selection of audio recordings is much wider than visual recordings so you have a lot of latitude for personal taste
>>24950211What is the best way of experiencing The Ring cycle outside of seeing the opera live (while on significant mounts of MM)
>>24950211>muh discorddiscuss here or fuck off
What happened to Wagneranon? I liked his massive posts quoting an analysis on the Ring Cycle.
It's really weird that I was googling Der Ring des Niebelungen like half an hour before I saw this thread, which had already been up for hours. I had not scrolled through the catalog and therefore had not subconsciously picked up the idea. I was in another thread, someone asked about something related to damming, and I wanted to google what Götterdämmerung means. Then I read on about Der Ring des Niebelungen, and I actually got the idea to try to read the libretto. Then I go into the /lit/ catalog shortly after and this thread is there. I wonder though if OP was inspired by my posting of Wilhelm Tell and Lieder in this thread:>>24905503
Whats the deal with shakespeare "intellectuals" trying to convince everyone every single line in every single play is actually a completely retarded sexual based pun, is this some kind of psyop?
>>24950185Theatre was literally popular entertainment attended en masse by the plebeians my dear friend. It's equivalent to gladiator shows in classical Rome, the definition of bread and circuses.
that ain't nothing compared to the restoration era playsI recently read about a play whose entire plot was about a guy who wanted to cuckold as many men as possible by pretending he had EDSadly the killjoy Victorian neo-Puritans tried to brush it all under the rug
yeah people were more serious back thencomedy was not a thing and there were no perverts
>>24949967>>24949985>>24950401
>>24949933not every line but about 60% of it, as we are always taught, the poor sat closest to the stage, , they are rowdy and they like base humor so many lines must be dropped for them, this is known, it is not some conspiracy against you, sorry
