ITT: post good secondary literature. I'll start
>>25010766Isn't this the guy that thinks writing tweets is more important than playing with his son?
>>25011089Same guyHe has a chapter in this book about how ideology heritability studies justify reading Deleuze as a secret neoreactionary lol>Let us consider a psycho-biographical approach to understanding the ideological valence of Deleuze’s thought. Political ideologies are known to be heritable — probably somewhere between 30% and 60% heritable (Hatemi et al. 2014) — so an author’s family background must provide at least some clues about an author’s ideological center of gravity.>According to the joint biography of Deleuze and Guattari by Françoise Dosse (Dosse 2011, 89), both of Deleuze’s parents were ideologically conservative. Louis Deleuze was an engineer and small-business owner, before he closed-up shop to become an employee of a large aerospace engineering firm. Louis disliked the Popular Front, the left-wing coalition that came to power in 1936, instead favoring a relatively small paramilitary party known as the Croix-de-Feu. Originally consisting of World War I veterans, this faction was financially supported by French millionaire and benefactor of Mussolini>After the Popular Front came to power, Louis and his wife, Odette, were horrified by the empowerment of working-class people. The Popular Front passed policies such as mandatory paid vacations for all workers. Gilles recalls Louis and Odette disgusted to find working-class people on the beaches of Deauville, where the Deleuze family vacationed in Normandy. “My mother, who was surely the best of women, said that it was impossible to go to a beach with people like that on it”
>>25010766I never got around to this. It always looked like e-celeb 2017 era culture war shit to me.
>In short, I suspect that Deleuze chose to work with Guattari because Guattari was slightly retarded. Guattari was smart, but always falling deep into activist delusions & depressively disordered thinking. Deleuze was leading by example: support and create with the downtrodden, the sad, the failed, and the mentally ill, etc. — just never join their groups. Don’t flatter their sins, and do not under any conditions allow yourself to be roped into their clutches.The very notion of a “Deleuze-Guattari collaboration” must therefore be revised. It was not so much a collaboration as a pedagogical sponsorship by Deleuze, an experiment in tutelage based on a political ethic of Christian charity. Stable genius Deleuze knows privately that this gifted but depressive, womanizing, socially liberal activist is doomed to personal and philosophical dissoluteness, but he — a based husband & father — would turn the boy’s ideas into something special.If only there was a Deleuze to Murphy's Guattari!
>>25011089He has the same first name as me
Holy fuck...
>>25011053>jews are based. why else would they be hated?so true, trans xister. you go girl!
>>25010806in this photo he looks a little bit more judaic
>>25011893Yes, all yids look the same.-t also assumed it was Freud
>>25012156Their eye area is nothing alike. I would never confuse one for the other.
>>25011187He's very hard to understand. I own Ideas and a lot of it flew over my head.
>creates the current fantasy genre and its never-dying cliches>can create cool languages and comfy regions, realms>ruin it all by adding "absolute good vs absolute evil" mythos>technological progress is unironically bad, he didn't know about SOLARpunk>the all-creator, Eru Ilúvatar, has no problem in watching kids being rape / eat for millennia>Eru just intervenes to rape humans that just wanted to evolve their species, and also nuke their island>Eru gave narcissism to Melkor and OCD to Mairon and ruined their lives for all eternity so they could "improve his creation" Wtf was wrong with him?
>>25011964Sam Gamgee got thirteen children from somewhere. Let's see if you can join the dots. Concentrate now ...
>>25011930>he didn't know about SOLARpunkNeither do I. Who the fuck needs to know about it.
>>25012015>Biblical Magi are good guys for exampleYes and no. Yahweh expressly forbade divination, but was apparently fine with the Christmas thing. I guess he changed his mind.
>>25012015The Magi were Persian fire-worshippers btw.
Reading LotR for the first time since childhood right now. I think it works on account of the quality of the prose. It's also well plotted, lots of things happening quickly.I feel like critiques of Tolkien focus too much on criticisizing the mythology, doesn't seem very fruitful. But one aspect I enjoy is the melancholic feeling of the fallen world the characters inhabit. The ancient golden age you are constantly reminded of is over and there's no going back to it. Everything old is dying etc. And there is a device similar to what's happening in the Nibelungenlied, where you are regularly reminded that things will turn bad. A lot of paragraphs or chapters end by remarking that a character would never see some place or person again, can't journey back.I also don't feel like the triumph over evil is as clear cut as it is sometimes made out to be, but I still have to get to the ending. Do agree that the Shire seems out of place in some details and the whole thing is asexual. I found the parts that lean into horror (Ring Wraiths, Moria) most enjoyable so far
Just finished the book after having seen the movie about three times. Loved the movie and loved Blood Meridian so I figured I'd give the book a try. Jesus, the book blew the movie out of the water. Did anyone else think the movie sanitized some of the more modern aspects of the book? I felt like a lot of the comments about modern America were taken out / removed from the book. Thoughts?
How do you guys read?No seriously,*how* do you guys read?No matter what position I try, it all hurts after a few minutes or gets uncomfortable. How do you find a comfy reading position. I've tried like dozens of poses and positions with no results and reading sucks because of it.
>>25012139On a couch with the feet against my close standing table and a pillow under my lower back. Hand that is holding the book resting on the bend leg. Very comfortable even after a few hours. On a chair at the desk. Like in school and stuff. To take notes. Sadly I have huge pain in my lower back because of it. Couldn't even put on my socks after waking up, because it hurt so much. Had to "warm up" for a few hours before I could do it. I am only 21. Fuck that shit. Even had problems wiping my ass.
All your gay reader life needs
Like the Nike logo with my head way down on my shitty hard chair and my feet being high up on the table.
>>25012139In bed, lying down. Either with the book/pad on the side, or with it in my hands in my lap.Huge advantage, when I start droping the pad/book on my head/chest, I know it's time to brush my teeth and go to sleep.I guess it's mostly a habit from 8 years of sneak-reading after bedtime during my childhood.
>>25012139Like this. Otherwise I got sleepy after half an hour.
>Your age>The last book you finished and your thoughts on it>The book you're currently reading and your thoughts on that
>old>Jakob Von GuntenWhile I mostly enjoyed this, I found it very hard to get into Jakob's head. I felt like he was bullshitting me as well as everyone around him the entire time, which I think is a mark of how alien I find the desire for servitude. I also couldn't stop thinking of Ferdydurke and Zero de conduite while I was reading it. Someday I will re-read it.>UbikOnly a few pages in, had quite a giggle at the story beginning in the sweltering summer of 1992.
>>25011144>Some of the other parts ended up being comically violentit was written as shock value literature for Roman sensitivities
>30>We Have Always Lived in the Castle>nothing atm, open to recs, I like mysteries
>>24991290>38>Brown girl dreaming - Jaqueline Woodson6/10 I guess this stuff is more tolerable in verse than prose, still the same old black people stuff. Not recomended unless assigned to you in litterary studies.>Die Vervandlung - Franz Kafkaidk I just started, but it's my first book by him and he's hyped so I'm hopeful.
>>25000696>67>I don't rememberYou ran North Jersey
I love this guy
>>25011558>His philosophy is a rejection of Hegel. It’s called a spook because it is mocking the Hegelian concept of spirit. Most of his work is mocking Hegel, actually.stirner was verifiably a young hegelian, and part of the goals of the young hegelians was to minimize the role of geist (hence why stirner calls things "spooks" as a tongue-in-cheek reference).>Stirner was very clearly a materialist.stirner's philosophy can be either solipsistic or dialectical materialist depending on who you ask, but his philosophy is definitely idealist in the sense it deals entirely in the realm of abstractions and overly concerns itself with social discourse rather than innate human qualities.>Tabula Rasa is a phrase that means something elseright, he just borrowed the idea and used it to describe his creative nothing then.stirner is still steeped in the same western tradition that crafts dualities between object and subject through discursive reasoning, whereas UG says its all bullshit.
>>25007282Is he worth reading
>>25010396>>25012063>OOOO THE SELF DON'T EXISTTT!!! YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING!!!! THOUGHTS ARE A LE PRISON (for a self which does not exist), SO YOU (who doesn't exist) SHOULD STOP THINKING OR DOING PHILOSOPHY (which you (who doesn't exist) can't do)>here are some books I published on my ideas btw. I hope you (who doesn''t exist) doesn't follow them because thinking is badTotal hack. A conman with schizophrenic delusions of grandeur. Philosophical tsundere.He wants to appear as some enlightened anti-guru while actually taking the position of a public figure and guru. It is exceedingly easy to be obscure if that is what you actually want. But he doesn't want that. He wants to be seen by the public as a wise guru, and his method of achieving that is vehemently denying that he is teaching you anything while handing you his books and ideas. I mean, really. Does anyone actually believe that this guy traveled around the world looking for people to not speak with? It's nonsensical.The shit he slops out said has been said better a million times by the same people he decries. Except if he acknowledged that, it would destroy his position as an enlightened guru that he supposedly rejects. The only way to maintain the cult of personality is rabid insistence that he is different from people who said the same things as him. Except this obnoxious, disingenuous insistence that he is not the same is the only "new" thing he has to say.He has nothing to do with Stirner in particular except that Stirner engages in thinking and U.G. (supposedly) denies thinking and everyone who does.
>>25007908To a Stirner maybe.
>>25012063>is definitely idealist in the sense it deals entirely in the realm of abstractionswrong“I am no opponent of criticism. I am no dogmatist, and do not feelmyself touched by the critic's tooth with which he tears the dogmatistto pieces. If I were a 'dogmatist', I should place at the head a dogma,a thought, an idea, a principle, and should complete this as a 'systematist', spinning it out to a system, a structure of thought. Conversely,if I were a critic, an opponent of the dogmatist, I should carry on thefight of free thinking against the enthralling thought, I should defendthinking against what was thought. But I am neither the championof a thought nor the champion of thinking; for 'I', from whom I start,am not a thought, nor do I consist in thinking. Against me, theunnameable, the realm of thoughts, thinking, and mind is shattered.” -- Stirner, The Ego and Its Own
So obviously this needs to be read in translation unless you have the kind of autism, and determination, necessary to study old English; but what translation? I have a predilection for any translation that stands out as a literary touchstone in its own right, like Pope’s Iliad or Golding’s Metamorphoses, so, if you can, make a recommendation in that vein.
Raffel’s
Michael Alexander’sThis was used by Penguin in their 1973 Penguin Classics edition
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Rabsamen’s>imitates original's poetic form as closely as possible, with alliterative half-lines; seven prose sections interrupt the translation, instead of using footnotes
Headley’s “New Verse Translation”
>em dashes make AI bots or ChatGPT copy paste obviousI've used em dashes for years. Well before ChatGPT was a thing. I actually like them because it helps with structuring a complicated concept in a continuous sentence without breaking it. But now that people are complaining about them.. I've been wary of using them lately. Somebody will just accuse me of copy and paste.It's not fair
>>25011208Look at the redditcuck setthing because he can't handle posting in pure trad chad ASCII. Let's see your little curly faggy quotes, phoneposter.
>>25011188Never ask a rhetorical in text again niggerfaggot
>>25011188--two dashes -
>>25011188— alt code is 0151, shift+option+hyphen on mac, there are a few ways to accomplish it on a Linux OS.
>>25011188two dashes correct to em dash on iphone
>increases your creativity x25
>>25011889i actually do something like it myself but more frequently. every ten seconds or so ill close my eyes for a split second. then open again. do it all day
>>25011788Ebaum, the creator of every meme you know and love.
>>25011788Idris Elba.
>>24989526I didn't go all the way, but I did do 3 hours of sleep plus three 30 minute naps for a while. It doesn't work if you're not a hermit. People think they're entitled to your time if it's between 9 am and 9 pm, and any time someone wakes you mid-nap to ask a stupid question you'll feel like shit for days afterward.
>>25008971Yes
what are some book recommendations for a relatively new person to daoism? im already looking for stores to order The Zhuangzi The Daodejing and Tao: The Watercourse Way from,but after reading these what other books should i get into?
>>25010506years of practice at getting kicked in the dick
>>25007823>>25008185>>25008186>He thought he could discuss Chinese literature, religion or philosophy on /lit/You MUST be new. I gave up on trying to discuss eastern philosophy here years ago OP.This is a dyed-in-the-wool westaboo canon website, you're really only ever going to get memed on by racist chuds who fucking despise anything and everything Chinese here. But luckily for (You), I can help with a few recommendations.>StoresNigga, just buy from Amazon/Barnes & Noble.Here's some personal recommendations from my own library:>The Norton Anthology of World Religions: Daoism by James RobsonPretty dense, but it's a great rundown of some of the major Daoist canon.>DaodejingYou can literally get a million different versions of this but I'd suggest either the Barnes & Noble Classics version or for an in-depth investigation I'd recommend "The Daodejing Commentary of Cheng Xuanying" I haven't finished yet but it's pretty comprehensive, it covers Daoism, Buddhism and their relationship with one another within the context of the Tang dynasty.>Zhuangzi Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25010713NTAs but thanks. I'll keep all this in mind.
>>25010492>!
Forget Taoism, its only for chinese peopleDig into Zen Buddhism instead
Reading books without first learning about memetics is incredibly dangerous. Without properly understanding the spread and evolution of ideas, you run a near 100% chance of infecting yourself with a memetic hazard. That is to say, you will start believing something harmful.See, ideas are selected for and compete in much the same way as living things. Unlike most life, however, ideas cannot exist on their own. They must parasitize a host to propagate and ensure their continued existence. Thus, ideas that are uniquely effective in steering the behavior of hosts towards the survival of the idea (rather than the host) are the ones that spread and endure. In this way people can become subverted by ideas. Loyal to a force outside of themselves, acting against themselves in service of an informational virus. This is no different from any other virus (or even your own genetics, but that itself could be considered an infohazard).Know the dangers. Immunize yourself.
>>25012189>I'm not entirely convinced that it's the sole driver of human behaviorDoes Dawkins say that?
>>25010604trvth nvkeMorality, religion, god, rights, society, justice, the state, nations, property, etc. are among the most successful mind viruses.All the greatest minds endeavor to shake off these harmful ideas, though of course not all are successful.
metal gear rising did it better
>>25012189Try >Susan Blackmore, The Meme Machine, Oxford, Oxford University Press, 1999>The Electric Meme: A New Theory of How We Think - Robert Aunger
>>25010604Memes are a meme.
>speaks of himself as a loser with depression who just sits around getting drunk or lying in bed doing opium and masturbating and wasting his life and who only doesn't kill himself because he isn't motivated enough for suicide let alone getting a job >actually had the motivation to learn English fluently just so he can read Poe in the original and also writes extensive rhyming poetry about weird and depressing shit that even the French government banned because they were so weirded out and depressed by it Was Baudelaire a poser feigning depression just to be le quirky? I and many of my friends are diagnosed with depression and you absolute would not be doing all that, you have just enough energy to watch a cheesy movie or have breakfast. You can barely even read or take a shower
>>25011582>just memorize the poem in French by memorizing the English translation>that way when you read the French you read the English translation in your headJesus Christ.
>>25011899This is like baby's first edge.>UMMM LIFE SUCKS>LIKE CAIN'S DESCENDANTS RULE THE EARTH>BUT LIKE INSTEAD OF LAMENTING ABOUT THIS>LET'S DO THE BRAT SUMMER THING AND EMBRACE IT!!!!>LIKE HOW SWIFTIES EMBRACED KIM K CALLING TAY TAY A SNAKE!!!!>HELL YEAH LET'S CAST GOD OUT FROM HEAVENBro. Come on.
>>25011899I loved learning French just to read his rants against the Belgian.
>>25011630Nah I'm not stupid out of choice. And I actually am bilingual. Languages you know from birth don't count.
>>25011184>Was Baudelaire a poser feigning depression just to be le quirky?That was basically Sartre's thesis.
Holy shit this chud was right about everything
>>25010765Why would you trust Scottish writers named Lyons that look like this?
>>25003761>Even Land acknowledges that his decade-long preoccupation with bitcoin was misplacedHe's even started to voice doubt about the never erring anglo-semitic god's chosen people plot.
>>25004055>10 minutes inthis moron literally just sounds like a Kantian anticipating what Hegel will write.Why won't this moron just accept dialectical thinking?
>>25010862he's been right about almost everything why would he accept anything
>>25010862Land is a classic case of only getting to know Hegelianism through his Communist phase and Marx aka the low IQ Hegel.Hegel is too high IQ for anglo-semites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufz9cppGNGM
am i the only one with the opinion that the dominant plot line is occult, has some significant symbolic component? Where the things untold are silently screaming. Pardon my ETL language, but as a post soviet citizen, i've been taught in school that mephistophel is a cruel joker, that there's a secret plot line behind every plot line, with utmost scams hidden in the plain sight so this story must be some sort of riddle with uncanny outcome.But instead the discussion here derails to> home alone: christmas in NY> i am 13 i am le sad> gotta kill phonies etc etcLike if every other one after reading this mandatory lit became whiny little bitch with sand in vagina, and every third one felt strongly the world would be less phony place if John Lennon was positively removed.
>>25005252he's the perfect image of a jaded cynical teen. maybe this was new in the 50s? (nah) Now at least, its hard to say he was some outrageous guy. no direction and support and all that, which is part and parcel with modernity, only he was self-conscious enough to realize it, but unfortunately unfit to remedy it (which is what the writing's for.) he's in a tough spot, he's not doing the right things, etc. So its easy to say he's shameful, and sure he is, but he's not some fundamentally corrupted, terrible guy. he's got the sense enough to reflect, which is more than many have; those who don't and don't jell with society are very dangerous. he's pitiful more than anything, and he's got potential if he could just turn his animosity into something creative. he's really a good kid, everything aside.in short, he's literally me.
>>25006943That's retarded, his sister is the only person he has a normal, genuine and healthy relationship with. Where his described actions actually match his written inner monolouge.All the rest is a twisted mess that screams "mental patient", where not a single word he writes is reflected in his actions. If there is a single person Holden actually loves, and wouldn't harm for the world, it's his sister.
>>25005252Can someone please explain to me why anyone likes this book? I understand that he's young and mentally handicapped and I shouldn't hold him to intelligent adult standards, that's fine. What I don't get is what literary merit a book about the inner thoughts of a retarded 12 year old with nothing meaningful to say is supposed to have.
>everybody hates this massively popular widely selling book
