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Let's discuss Beat poetry. I'll start

"Sweet Boy, Gimme Yer Ass" by Allen Ginsberg

lemme kiss your face, lick your neck
touch your lips, tongue tickle tongue end
nose to nose, quiet questions
ever slept with a man before?
hand stroking your back slowly down to the cheeks' moist hair soft asshole
eyes to eyes blur, a tear strained from seeing–

Come on boy, fingers thru my hair
Pull my beard, kiss my eyelids, tongue my ear, lips light on my forehead
–met you in the street you carried my package–
Put your hand down to my legs,

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>>25008073
Are there any other jewish poetry subjects than religion or sex
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>>25008073
I mean we can laugh at this now but making a little poem about being a fairy was enough for the government to come after you and be involved in a national debate about obscenity. It took this little to upset the establishment and kick some shit on The Man. The past is a foreign country.
Watch some old videos where Ginsberg discusses obscenity and it seems so quaint. Or check out that video where Monty Python have to defend Life of Brian from the archbishop of whatever in Britain. That one is extra funny as I think the pearl clutching bishop was later exposed as a secret fag.
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>>25009653
This
>>25009647
It is pretty funny lmao
>>25009657
There's tons on why the Germans owe them they reparashuns
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>>25008073
looks like Adam Friedland
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>>25008073
You can literally imagine an ugly bastard smacking his saliva smeared lips and telling this to a shota in that pervy cracked cigarette smoke voice.
Utterly horrific.
In the bad sense.

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>>25000719
UFOs are a waste of time but if you insist then the only serious work on it is by Jacques Vallee.
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>>25009577
Its a fun subject to me but to each their own.
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>>25004905
>Have you read Norman Cohn "Pursuit Of The Millennium", Hillaire Belloc "The Great Heresies", Alister McGrath "Heresy", Christopher Hill "The World Turned Upside Down" or Eamon Duffy "The Stripping Of The Altars"? If so, what did you think?
No, sorry. I've read Knox before, his The Belief Of Catholics
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My pseud stack
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>>25009451
was he trying to just get attention or did he want to actually hurt those people?

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It seems like the only books that sell nowadays are goonslop for women. My ex gf read nothing but goonslop. My sister-in-law reads nothing but goonslop. My coworker listened to goonslop audiobooks on her bluetooth earbuds. I go into the bookstore and half of it is goonslop it feels like. The only time I see women in the bookstore, they are in the goonslop section. The fantasy section has been overtaken by goonslop, and the sci-fi section, being less suitable for gooning, has shrunk to almost nothing. I wanted to talk to the girl there but I realized her standards are probably so high from reading all about billionaire rapist serial killer werewolf men all day that she would be disgusted by my mere presence. Now I want to write my shitty cyberpunk novel, because for once I have creative furor for a publishable idea, and now it seems utterly pointless unless I make the main character a rapist. It feels like no other books sell besides those anymore. Yes I can write for myself like I always have, but I lost interest in writing stories that only I will ever read, as I get older and my time gets more precious to me, as well as my desire to attempt to leave a legacy on this world. And it sucks that my best chance at leaving a name behind for myself, would be to write goonslop.
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>>25007476
>didnt try out the scenes with her.
Anon..
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>>25007962
I didn't read any of them. I don't know what happens. All I know is it makes women expect to be dating these hyper dominant volatile rapists and I cannot do that.
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>>25006896
I want to as well but it's just hard because now I'm at this age where I want people to remember me so it's hard to write something no one will read besides me. But I agree man I agre.
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>>25006803
I love flailing women and cutting women and seeing their inner beauty like every normal man, but you're taking the hate too far.
Women are beautiful. The lining of their throbbing red muscles is beautiful.
Instead of hating a woman, you should invite her in your home and the, after a sedate dinner, explore her inwardly.
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>>25010561
What the actual fuck

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>Henry Darger was a janitor in Chicago, and he pretty much kept to himself. He never mentioned that he was writing a book. But just after Darger's death, his landlord discovered his magnum opus, "The Story of the Vivian Girls, in What is Known as the Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion." The book is several volumes and 15,000 pages (single space!) of strange, fantastical adventure stories, accompanied by over 300 illustrations of children and semi-human creatures. Some of the illustrations take the form of collage, and the largest clocks in at 10 feet wide.
Are you writing a secret masterwork, /lit/?
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>>25007054
proto boomers
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>>25007506
>two microscopic races
they are called fungi and bacteria
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>>25009080
did you start doomscrolling instead?
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>>25009575
No I don't do stuff like that
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>>25009080
I know how you feel man and it fucking sucks.
AYRT here.
It fucking sucks.
I cannot get lost in my mental visualization anymore.
I damaged my brain with lack of sleep or matured.
I thought about acid to get it back but that's just hallucinating it's not gonna fix my brain.

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/lit/ memes
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>>25009187
I gotchu, senpai.
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>>25004363
Their spirits still inhabit Eden, so everything they make/do is addressed to Eternity.
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>>24989355
Should've shopped Infinite Jest onto a slimmer book.
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>>24997407
I think this is the lowest numbers which fulfill this pattern, which is cool if a kid really came up with it. pretty sure the next is One Million Ten and so on.

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Whoa, so this is the power of intellectual conservatism
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>>25010021
Literally no one here is stupid enough to fall for that unbelievable horseshit you are trying to peddle. >>>/pol/
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>>25010048
This is objectively measurable shit you disgusting subhuman creature. I am European and well travelled unlike you. Even watching your retarded movies meant to portray nigger ghettos as poor just demonstrates how rich even they are compared to most Europeans.
Driving around the most ghetto places in the southern US all I saw was driveways with expensive cars and even fucking boats. We were amazed at the buffets that cost a fifth of an average cheap meal in Europe. I can not get a house for $100k anywhere, no matter how far into the woods I go.
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>>24996718
Maybe classically liberal, but it's not and shall never be marxist. There's a difference, between the neo shudra open borders globalist third worldisms, where we must mix oriental djinn brained parasites along with the anglo-"insert european here" population.
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>>25009550
Go on Xitter right now. Top-to-bottom the entire website is a U.S. government propaganda psyop to push for neocon regime change around the world with every MAGAtard rallying for it. Because that’s all the conservatives can amount to despite how much they attempt to rebrand as “populists” or “isolationists” or whatever else. Mass public opinion on politics does in fact matter and they’ve realized they can engineer it the best with social media.

It has become abundantly clear that the system welcomed Trump and his conservative movement because mainstream liberalism was making people too docile, with October 7 really terrifying the ruling class in particular. Once they achieve all their geopolitical aims in solidifying the system using conservative manpower, it’ll be back to our regularly-scheduled programming as usual — demographic replacement, pornification, fertility decline, woke stupidity, etc. Conservatives as usual are too retarded to realize how they’re being used because all they want is to shoot foreign brown men and fuck their women
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>>25010578
That in no way answered the question that anon posed. It was just more useless frothing at the mouth about events far out of your ability to influence in any way.

What are some beautifully sad books?
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>>25007058
Stoner by John Williams
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>>25007058
Spring Snow
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Literally almost every book
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>>25007058
The Sorrows of Young Werther
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>>25007058
Try this

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Discuss good narrative history books on any subject.

>1776 is a nonfiction historical account written by David McCullough and published in 2005 by Simon & Schuster, focusing on the military campaigns of the American Revolutionary War during that pivotal year, particularly General George Washington's leadership of the Continental Army against British forces under General William Howe.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77347.1776

https://www.audible.com/pd/1776-Audiobook/B002V8KSTW
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Social, economic, cultural, and political history of the gap between Alexander’s Death and Rome taking over all the Successor states. Somehow manages to Cram 300 years worth of history into under 200 pages without it seeming rushed. Highly recommended as a quick way to get an overview of this period.
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>>25006241
Very brown-coded post
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I enjoyed it but it's been a few years since I read it
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The Struggle for Europe by Chester Wilmot

>This text describes the build-up of the invasion of Europe, and the scenes at the beach-head and in the "bocage" of Normandy. It also discusses the disputes among the Allies, the Anglo-American difficulties over Grand strategy, and the friction between Hitler and his generals which culminated in the plot of July 20th 1944, as well as the pincer movements of the Russians and the Anglo-American forces which brought Europe to victory.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3582996-the-struggle-for-europe
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The Washing of the Spears by Donald Morris

>details the sixty-year existence of the world's mightiest African empire; from its brutal formation and zenith under the military genius Shaka , through its inevitable collision with white expansionism, to its dissolution under Cetshwayo in the Zulu War of 1879.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20503403-the-washing-of-the-spears

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99% of what he says has been completely debunked by modern psychology and the 1% that hasn't been has already been absorbed into modern psychology
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>>25009793
Psychology defines insanity as not fitting into your own culture and local values. They're generally liberal in the West but for example society wouldn't say cutting off your own finger to appease ghosts is insane if that is the normal custom and belief of your society
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>>25009005
Truly it’s hard to witness you make your blatant lack of rhetorical skill the fault of a man asking a simple question. Why so cagey?
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>>25009988
Everything but Jung is complete garbage.
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>>25009026
Are you, by any chance, Jewish?
Jews have lived as separate communities amongst Europeans for centuries. They have markedly different dispositions to an array of genetic diseases. They have a markedly distinct culture that can't be clustered with any European national culture.
Jews switched to the "fellow whites, lets us ally against browns" line only because Israel is threatened presently.
You are likely either a disingenuous Jew, or just aren't paying attention.
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>>25010536
>Heine and Mendelssohn weren't white

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The part in Symposium where Aristophanes explains the origin of gender made A&M mad. We are witnessing the decline of Western civilization, in real time
https://www.sacurrent.com/news/texas-news/texas-am-bans-radical-woke-teachings-of-greek-philosopher-plato/
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>>25008750
>the police to murder US citizens for protesting.
This argument only makes sense if you were outraged at Ashli Babbitt's death.
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A libtard made the call and this is completely disingenous. They're pretend Plato is like the troon stuff which should be off the curriculum
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>>25007991
Texas has been speedrunning "worst state in the US" any%
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>>25008456
>>25008445
Communism comes from materialism. Plato was not a materialist.
>but there is communism in the republic!
Only for the soldiers. The common people have a 100% free market.
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>>25010146
We're stepping over that.

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>how do I know? Very simple, I read it in a book
>I prefer the book to the movie
>Wikipedia? I don't accept any source of information that isn't a book. That includes lived experience.
>Oh yes, I love me a new series. In fact a new translation is coming out soon of my favorite obscure Mediaeval poet from central Europe who wrote about any warfare and women's underwear using Christian allegory, can't wait to binge read it
>I don't really date much because I find conversation boring. Unless it's about books.
>Why would I talk to real people when I have books?
>video games went downhill when they stopped being text-based.
>If I didn't enjoy reading the script, why would I watch the movie?
>Tarantino is a bad director, you can tell he doesn't read books, he just watches movies which has nothing to do with his craft
>You're bored? I have just the thing for you, a lovely book.
>I'm textually frustrated, I haven't had an opportunity to read all day
>The world needs less people and more books
>Why would I go out to eat when I have books and coffee at home?
>I'm sorry, I didn't catch that, would you mind spelling it?
>I'm not much of a texter, I prefer writing letters

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>>25010428
I like the direction. Basically erotic/eros related poems or similar writings by anyone who isn't a faggot(spiritually speaking), could be interesting.
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>>25010443
John Donne also wrote a lot of religious and spiritual poetry
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>>25010498
Looks good anon, will be reading him. Thank you.
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>>25010520
You might just like Metaphysical Poetry in general.

There is a good penguin anthology. Here is from Thomas Carew

>From our close ivy twines; there I’ll behold
Thy barèd snow, and thy unbraided gold.
There my enfranchised hand on every side
Shall o’er thy naked polished iv’ry slide.
No curtain there, though of transparent lawn,
Shall be before thy virgin-treasure drawn;
But the rich mine, to the enquiring eye
Exposed, shall ready still for mintage lie,
And we will coin young Cupids. There, a bed
Of roses and fresh myrtles shall be spread

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>>25010544
Indeed, that is of interest. Good share, checking out that penguin book.

Become a Slopper Or Death Edition

Stubbed >>25003235

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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Dripping desperation for (You)s
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>>25010296
>because I'm not a dumbass
every indicator suggests otherwise
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>>25010242
>That's not my problem.
half the problems in your first post were about dming random assholes with evidently no existing commission process asking "do you do commissions" and being surprised when they say no
so it sure sounds like your problem
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>>25010305
You think I used those two jobbers as examples because I like them? I used them because they're alive.
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>>25010308
there are ton of early to mid 20s influencers with huge followings though. (including ones who mainly post thirst traps)
you could definitely have some adult side characters with the same powersystem as the main gang

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Exploitative gore porn with mediocre, sloppy style. Never trust anyone who loves this book. The Judge is too unrealistic to be scary and his philosophy is idiotic. No insight is this book. Just a surface of garish gore. This would be okay as a neutral aesthetic experience but the Indians become just material for the readers experience of the grandeur of violence. There is no sympathy involved.
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>>25010433
That's a lot of waffle to say absolutely nothing. You think it is gore porn, I say it is history. In any educated and holistic view you're a prude and a retard who can't comprehend that art can go beyond gassy 19th century bookworms sitting at their desks and introspecting for 300 pages.

You cannot say anything useful about fiction, even in critique, unless you have a strong grasp of it. And you have demonstrated that you do not, and perhaps cannot hope to.
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>>25010466
Your comment is contentless insult so I'm not sure what I could do to respond, other than suggesting that the insult of retard is less effective after the 100th time. I am curious however, do you believe in God or believe that there is life after death?
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>>25010481
I believe in your retardation
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>>25010537
I can rest well knowing I have done my job in demonstrating to lurking anons the psychological profile of the average Blood Meridian glazer. This has been edifying experience for all involved, I hope.
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>>25010543
>glazer
Lol. You should stick to your chinese cartoons, buddy. This muh literature facade isn't working and books aren't for someone of your intelligence.

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What books do you read to attract love interests?
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>>25008294
Girls do not want men who act like women, retard.
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>>25000642
I read William Blake in the hopes that my future wife will be a Blakean as well
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>>25008799
Well then why do chicks invariably tell me to read these books when I ask them for book recs?
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>>25006615
You'd goon to a thanksgiving turkey if somebody put a bikini on it
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>>25008972
Because they think you are gay and autistic

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I do not care for the Bible. It insists upon itself.
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>>25010367
unironically true, if there was a benevolent infinite being that wanted a relationship with you and for your very soul to be eternally saved, he would give you more evidence than something anyone else could have written or told you
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>>25010533
>he would give you more evidence than something anyone else could have written or told you
Yeah, his name is Jesus Christ dumbfuck.
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>>25010535
>Yeah, his name is Jesus Christ dumbfuck.
yeah, thats the only thing you have, his NAME you can only TELL me, exactly as ive said.


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