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>The ghost of 'lectricity howls in the bones of her face

What did literature Nobel laureate Robert Allen Zimmerman mean by this?
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He's using AI now apparently lol
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>>25176388
Those people are gonna hate regardless. Your comment testifies to that.
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>>25170706
What about Nick Drake
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>>25174260
>Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup
>Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
>Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
>Wiggle, you can raise the dead
I honestly never had much issue with it.
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>>25166213
Scaruffi believes the greatest lyrics ever written to be:

Are we supposed to be or not to be?
said the angel to the Queen
I lift up my skirt and Voltaire turns
as he speaks, his mouth full of garlic
white, yes, white
misfortune of us two
he told you to be free
and you obeyed
we have to decide which is important
a war we never see
or a street so black babies die?
a system and a theory

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are there any pop-science books you've enjoyed?
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>>25180851
You're having an episode. Nowhere did I frame it as some occult hex. This is you creating a strawman.

I don't frame is in the most nefarious way possible. I describe just exactly what they are doing. What is it you're in disagreement with? Do they not spend millions of dollars into researching how to manipulate their users? You frame it as if they're an ice cream store selling a new flavour. Just what the customer wants! In reality it's 100% provably using psychological methods to manipulate their users emotions. You cannot dispute this and will dodge it in your next reply.

It's less like any other consumer product and more akin to a casino. And we have special rules for gambling (or at least we had) for good reasons.
I bet you see nothing wrong with the explosion in betting apps either right?
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>>25180880
>You're having an episode. Nowhere did I frame it as some occult hex. This is you creating a strawman.
It's called hyperbole and figurative language.
>I don't frame is in the most nefarious way possible.
Let's look at the type language you were using to describe the design of social media...
>Hooked
>Manipulate
>Casino
All these things have a negative connotation. You aren't objectively describing the services that social media companies provide, you're baking in your own subjective assessments of those "manipulative strategies" and presenting them as objective.
>Just what the customer wants!
How do you think the social media companies keep their userbase? By using their algorithms to present things that their users don't want? Maybe by sending armed thugs to force people to use their services perhaps? The fact is, the reason people are "hooked" on social media, is because they want to use social media.
>In reality it's 100% provably using psychological methods to manipulate their users emotions.
Which is what you're trying to do right now with your hysterical descriptions of basic product design. Pot meet kettle.
>You cannot dispute this and will dodge it in your next reply.
I can and I will. The problem isn't social media companies acting as "pushers", it's irresponsible people acting irresponsibly with social media and blaming everyone else for their own irresponsible actions. And now everyone else has to suffer because of these retards.

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>>25177905
>le phone is the problem
VS
>Neo-liberal self exploitation is the problem

well /lit/, whos right?
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>>25180950
>All these things have a negative connotation
All of them are literally, 100% true.
Users describe themselves as using it more than they would like to (hooked).
The companies use manipulation to increase time used. And those techniques are the same as used in the casino business. All fact.
>the reason people are "hooked" on social media, is because they want to use social media.
Yeah and the people gambling just want to do it. Same with drug users.
You however are trying to dumb down what is happening. The point of you trying to group what the social media companies are doing with just regular commerce is to make it less clear. Your entire goal is to blur the distinctions, when in reality there are massive differences.
>your hysterical descriptions
Coming from the guy who put words in my mouth about 'an occult hex'. You're projecting is clear for everyone to see. You're the hysterical one.
>it could be applied to virtually all behavior
No it actually can't. Try to make the comparison between a man selling ice cream on the side of the road and what social media companies are doing. Go ahead and show how the same can be applied.

From what I gather you're a Libertarian. Complete joke of an ideology. Betting apps have added nothing to society besides debt. Society was better off before it was legalized. What you're advocating for is to have society be a free for all where you as an atomized individual gets to have a 'fair fight' against companies so big they dwarf most countries. Your advice is to just not engage. Forgetting that many children are targeted by these companies.
But your side is already losing this fight thankfully. Social media with these algorithms add nothing, and they will be done away with. And guess what? Nothing of value will be lost.
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>>25180729
It was just okay. Nothing in it was really groundbreaking or eye-opening. You may think it's the biggest redpill in modern social science if you are a boomer but if you are familiar with the internet at all you'll immediately see that everything the author has to say is basically common knowledge about how social media can affect your emotions
I dropped it halfway through and just checked "finished it" and a rating of 5/5 on the staff survey they made us fill out

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You have eyes but failed to see Mount Tai! Edition

Stubbed >>25172742

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>25180808
that's the most fucked up indenting i ever did see
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>>25181104
Why? It's standard 0.5 inches.
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>>25181128
yeah but there's just too much of it
i get it's strictly correct but it still looks wrong to me
WN formatting conventions are just different
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>>25180915
>>25180933
>>25181104
Take your meds asap
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>>25181128
>>25181157
Rétard

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Chtorr edition

Here we discuss any kind of science fiction and fantasy.

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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>>25180978
Forming a triplet from another player's discarded tile
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Any good sffg where mahjong plays an integral role in the story?
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>>25180978
Prince of Nothing, of course
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I miss playing pogs as a kid.
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Chat, is that poggers or what?

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>>25180728
first fragment suck donkey dongs
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>>25180735
is there any rationale behind this or are you just not a fan of bleep bloop-arpeggios
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>>25180425
Not sure why but The Tempest is the fist thing I thought of
>>25180457
Samuel Shem - The House of God
>>25180739
Something on AO3

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Is there a quintessential Napoleon biography?
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>>25175833
Ridley Scott's movie doesn't hold a candle to Bondarchuk's Waterloo.
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>>25169460
What about Patrice Gueniffey's book?
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>>25169540
I'm currently reading this and it's great
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The Rise of Napoleon Bonaparte by Robert Asprey

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Thoughts? Im up to chapter 12 and so far its been fairly compelling.
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>>25180120
Gutting ≠ permutation. It was fucking gutted. Islam is more of a permutation
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>>25180035
Book is great. But most only need the documentary desu
https://odysee com/@MonsieurDePhocas:0/E.-Michael-Jones---A-Goy-Guide-To-World-History----Full-Version:2
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E. Michael Jones thinks conversion makes you a gentile. Read K-Mac instead
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>>25180035
>Thoughts? Im up to chapter 12 and so far its been HEBREW NONSENSE.
fixed it for you, OP.

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put anyone, fiction, politics, philosophy, math ect.
accepting putting two in same grid if they are similar and important enough to you as each other
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>>25180147
I think you may be confusing Carl Jung on the chart with Ernst Junger who is not on the chart
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>>25179037
kek
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>>25180134
Nigga this is some entry level /lit/core. If you've been here 5+ years you should've read most of them already.
For reference, I read:
>Iliad (once), Odyssey (twice) I liked the Iliad more though
>some of his greatest (Lear, Hamlet, Macbeth) and started my way through his early plays chronologically (up next is Julius Caesar)
>Areopagitica, Paradise Lost, Paradise Regained
>V., 49, GR
>Moby-Dick, Pierre, Confidence-Man, Piazza Tales
>Dubliners, Portrait, Ulysses, the first page of FW before dropping it
>Nigger of the Narcissus, Heart of Darkness (yet to read any actual novel)
>Crime & Punishment, Demons, TBK (didn't like Demons)
>Buddenbrooks, Magic Mountain, Doctor Faustus
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>>25180225
huh. youre right. nevermind, my bad, sorry man
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>>25180267
If you weren't a newfag you'd know /lit/ likes the Iliad more.

Shoehorning pynchon in there is just proof you've only heard of these other Classical greats. Unless you're literally 18 or something

Thrice greatest edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>25103936

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>25179670
For me it's ἐϋπλόκαμος
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>>25179135
https://voca.ro/18KvD4LRXnOt
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>editio princeps
Who can write an entire book or at least a well written essay completely in Latin?
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>>25180450
it's not doing it the problem, is finding a reason to
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>>25180893
I see people sometimes claim to be able to do stuff like this and even to have better latin than a given Roman that isn’t Cicero. I take the position that if you haven’t done it, you can’t say you can, because you haven’t proven you can, and you’re just being a braggart like many classicists.

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How the fuck does this get published?
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>>25180847
Was this traditionally published? What even is this? Where is this from? If my eyes get cancer, I will hold you responsible.
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>>25180847
cuz that's the modern standard qwuakekekekek
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>>25181032
It's from the new York times best seller written by Andy Weir.
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>>25181039
Well, I don't want to dump on someone's work, but this is not of a style that I could cope with, I think.
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>>25181039
>It's from the new York times best seller written by Andy Weir.
It's from the JEW York times best seller written by SOME JEW.
fixed it for you, so now you can see the underlying issue/problem.
Pro tip: "the most important book of the year!" (it almost certainly is not)
pro tip: "the most important book of the decade!" (it definitely isn't)

>greatest writer at the time of his death
>had a vast library containing tens of thousands of books on every subject under the sun
>reached advanced proficiency in math and physics for fun (a member of SFI said he matched most professors in those subjects)
>had a large circle of friends from every discipline; his best friend was the inventor of the quark

>didn't own a computer, use a smartphone, or have any internet presence whatsoever, not even an email address

Can we just admit that computers are the bane of creativity?
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>>25180807
>inventor of the quark
Anyway, it just so happened that he lived in a period where computer/internet usage was not so integrated and needed for proper functioning in urban society. You shouldn't mistake this correleation for the very reason that he was good at writing obscurantist non-canonical novels for midwits.
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>>25180807
>inventor of the quark
>greatest writer at the time of his death
Pynchon is still kicking, I don’t think he’s as good as what other people think, but he’s better than McCarthy. Not a fierce competition in the 2020s regardless.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrUy1Vn2KdI theres a mac in the background of this interview visible at 0:26 lol

if you know how to parse the overwhelming knowledge online computers are actually an incredible asset. a few decades ago all of the knowledge we have wouldve been paywalled behind college tuition, but now the only wall to understanding this stuff is time and discipline. cheer up. the potential for personal development is higher than ever
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>>25180953
>pynchon
>better than Cormac
Lol
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>>25180953
Pynchon is garbage. Much-ado-about-nothing writer

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Why are women so obsessed with Harry Potter?
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>>25174411
I don't care about harry potter, who is the girl?
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>>25174411
despite that women no longer marry in their late teens and early 20's, women will never stop obsessing over school twice as hard as when they made the most important decision of their life at that age. they still make the most important decision, only its not between chad and brad, its between mammon, satan, or hecate
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>>25180032
She's a Russian nanoceleb.
@begi_krolik_begi

Wouldn't get your hopes up, she disappeared from everything a few years ago.
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>>25179228
Yeah we need to have it more often
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>>25180144
>Wouldn't get your hopes up, she disappeared from everything a few years ago.
Unfortunate, she cute
Looked better with the harry potter glasses desu, they suit her face. >>25174478 >>25177336 >>25180838 look kinda mid

There is nothing after death.
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>>25180813
>and the sense of a unified individual persists.
We wake up different people each day based on experiences (of the previous day)
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>>25180813
If there is no continuity of the brain, why is there a continuity of the soul-brain connection? Why is my soul always attached to my ever changing brain?
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>>25178252
Memory is in the brain. Personality how it is shaped.
Even if identity, a particular awareness perspective, survives it would be like a Alzheimer's victim but unbound by spacetime. You won't remember ever having lived.
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>>25175226
If the Universe is a computer, it either goes in cycles or it gets stuck in some state. If it doesn't get stuck, everything that is happening now will repeat after some (potentially very large) period of time. Point being, even on pure materialism, you cannot make that claim.
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>>25181091
Quantum reduction is likely the fundamental proof against a computational world, a computer will ALWAYS halt at some point. It is literally impossible—because it doesn't have actual understanding or awareness or will or calculation; it doesn't 'grasp' that 2+2=4 that's just somewhere in its memory represented by an arbitrary logic gate sequence. (Otherwise there wouldn't be infinite possible CPU architectures.)
So reduction proves there must be intentionality essential to the very substrate of spacetime.
There are no gaps.

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But if you think the writing is extremely amateur then are you implying you could do better? That you can actually write something that entertains a lot of people? Can you really, amateur?
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This thread is dedicated to John, Paul, George, and Ringo.
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>>25181008
Stfu weeb subhuman. You're lower on the totem pole.
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>>25180878
People liking slop instead of the right movies or books used to upset me a lot as a teenager and I was all like wake up sheeple but really as an adult why does it bother you? I wouldn’t read Andy Weir but his fans don’t affect you at all.
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It's not that bad.
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>I-I COULD DO BETTER I JUST DON'T WANT TO
the cope on this board is unreal

Im about the DNF this

2D characters

Boring, slow plot

Awful writing

Why do Reddit tier 3rd grade reading level chumps love this crap?
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>>25180906
In terms of SF?

Hyperion
Children of Time
The Locked Tomb
Culture Series

Fantasy:
Malazan
Farseer
First Law

General Lit:
Catch 22

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>>25180957
bookmarked some of those, thx
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>>25180770
The first half of TDF is garbage. The book really picks up about halfway through. Keep reading.
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>>25180994
which ones did you "bookmark"?
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>>25181025
>Keep Reading

No


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