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>>24947660
No. Do you understand how easy it is to make you and your descendants you curse with these loathsome lies to apostatize? How many Protestants with their Magisterium-less and rudderless "traditions" do you think I tricked into losing their "Faith?" It's easy and repeatable. Without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit your "Faith" is a raft that, if you are spared this generation, then you'll witness your children and grandchildren drown for the sake of your pride. Do you realize the level of intellectual pride and delusion you need to seek to immitate one setting up their own church? Fuentes is a child and has no policies to support his opinions. His obsession with race is abyssmal albeit his rhetoric is skillful.
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>>24947678
>Did you receive a ritual partial castration from your father as a child?
No.
>Were you taught to love the father that you must also fear?
No. Fearing God is a mistranslation--it means revere.
>You already betray your desired place as a slave to a "master", but will you dig deeper into the psychological reasons for your self degradation?
There is no more simpler trick of the devil's than to tell a smart man that he is his own master.
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>>24947692
>There is no more simpler trick of the devil's than to tell a smart man that he is his own master.
In the Christian tradition, God seeks to keep Man ignorant, a mindless automaton, while it is the Serpent who encourages Man to take the knowledge of Good and Evil. Thus, God is a tyrannical despot who wants Man degraded and bereft of dignity, while the Serpent encourages the attainment of wisdom, of self actualization. What will you choose, to be treated as a beast in chains, or to take up the Truth, Beauty, and Goodness attendant on a Man of dignity?
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>>24947678
>The final irony is that you rail against those who claim the mantel of God in determining what is right and wrong, all the while you, yourself, pass judgement as you please, taking this part of the Bible of tradition and leaving that, venerating what feels right to you and scorning what feels wrong, all with the false consolation that you're the only one following God's will and everyone else claiming to are wrong. What a sad little anon you are, but you'll never see it and thus never get better. What a fate!
Where did I claim my own perfect fidelity to the Church's teachings? I do not make the Church's teachings more nor less correct nor does my witness add an iota to their stature or binding power. Submit your mind to the Catholic Church or it will be a slave to unimpressive lies from the devil.
>it won't, I'm so smart
Oh, look, the man who invented ideas.
>be nicer and gentler
You brood of vipers and hypocrites! You want gentleness to be the yoke of ambiguity by which the Church can hide Her own grandeur.
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>>24947699
>knowledge of ... Evil.
What do you learn from kidnapping someone? What do you glean from getting addicted from heroin? Evil is anti-knowledge and also, in the final analysis, evil cannot explain itself.

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Man, you're right, Aristotleanon. Christian apologists are the worst when it comes to anally raping the Aristotelian corpus beyond recognition. They don't fucking understand anything. They don't understand dunamis, they don't understand energeia, they don't understand Metaphysics Zeta, they don't understand syllogisms, and they definitely do not understand the four causes.

I just had apologist tell me, definitively, that Palamas was a top scholar of Aristotle (lmfao), and that De Anima isn't about life at all, since according to Palamas, only human beings have life because you somehow need "intelligence" to be "self-subsistent" (fucking LOL). Even when you read Aquinas's commentary on passages like the controversial active intellect, you can see him at pains to make the active intellect cohere with the passive intellect into one united soul. And then he fails to do so. But then magically says "but it has to be the case, and so it is." I ask another apologist, is an intellect which becomes everything, something which changes or otherwise remains as it is? And obviously, they short-circuit. Because obviously, that's the kind of intellect that we have, and it can't be active in any pure sense. So Aquinas is wrong and our intellects are perishable in the sense that it is soul. Oh the horror!!!

These fucks have absolutely destroyed Peripatetic commentary throughout history, and they polluted literally everything, especially the translations, with the most hamfisted articulations possible to the point where intelligent conversations with them are not possible. Their brains are wrapped in verbal poison. If you ever get caught up in it, you basically have to spend years unlearning Scholastic hackery as it pertains to the deepest parts of the Aristotelian thought to even have a CHANCE at beginning to understand its depths.
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>>24947178
Anon, you're right that most commentators sought to repurpose Aristotle for their own projects. But it's another thing entirely for people to *not be aware* that they're diverging from Aristotle, and to not recognize that there are problems from diverging from the implied Aristotelian position, partisan solutions that are even worse than the aporias suggested by the original position. To treat everything as if it were all tightly-wrapped in a bow from Aristotle to Aquinas to fucking Palamas is just insanity to me.

>>24947186
I don't feel the direct impact of Middle Platonists, Arabs, and Jews on the vocabulary and thought-patterns utilized by Christian sophists. So it doesn't bother me so much.

>>24947202
Palamas:
>The soul of each animal not imbued with intelligence is the life of the body that it animates; it does not possess life as essence, but as activity, since here life is relative and not something in itself. Indeed, the soul of animals consists of nothing except that which is actuated by the body. Thus when the body dissolves, the soul inevitably dissolves as well. Their soul is no less mortal than their body, since everything that it is relates and refers to what is mortal. So when the body dies the soul also dies. (Topics of Natural and Theological Science and on the Moral and Ascetic Life: One Hundred and Fifty Texts, 31)
What am I supposed to make of that? This is abysmal, perhaps even retarded, especially if we're supposed to take this as some kind of Aristotelian commentary. If it's something different, then fine, be my guest, but this is like taking the entirety of Book II of De Anima and throwing it into the furnace. And even on those merits, it is bad, because nothing is truly self-subsistent except for God if we're going to play that game.
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>>24947161
As opposed to our brilliant era of "telos as a strongly emergent physical property" or a mere catagorical and an "Aristotleian" philosophy built solely off a few parts of the Ethics?

Anyhow, what is your objection. Do you think Averoese got it more right? I'ma side with Plato here either way (and thus I guess with Palamas).
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>>24947223
First, you're presenting a strawman caricature. If anything, the tendency in the East is to underemphasize the influence of Pagan thought.

Second, the Middle Platonists and Islamics profoundly shaped the reception of Aristotle in the West, so they definitely shape discourse up to this day. Indeed, a key reason why the Orthodox read Aristotle so differently is precisely because Islamic/Jewish thought had a far deeper influence on Scholastic thought. In the high scholastic period Aristotle was just "the Philosopher" but Avicenna was also "the Commentator."

>What am I supposed to make of that?
That animals don't have a nous or immortal soul. In context, this is explained in terms of different ways of participating in the divine energies.
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Saint Gregory the Theologian addresses this in a poem.
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>>24947702

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Just wanted to say I'm proud of you lot. I can tell many of you have actually been reading books this year. Warmest congratulations to everyone who read books this year and coldest execration to those who did not.
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>>24944124
I think those are called Caketomotrists.
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>>24944109
I also keep telling myself that having a job is not worth selling my soul. Really hope I don't end up killing myself at some point though
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I actually rarely read and only come on here to see discussions about the latest talking head videos of which I don't understand a good portion of most of the subjects or even the language used, especially when it comes to politics *accepts your praise anyway and sits with everyone at the reward banquet table*
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>>24943077
where are my candles? i want a candle for every book i read this year
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>>24943077
I read 30 or about 10,000 pages, just slightly less than last year. Mostly novels.

After Genderswap Reincarnation I Raised the Strongest Slopper Edition

Stubbed >>24936451

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24947166
tbf I get it
I wrote two chapters with it already planned out how much of a backlog I'd build up before I even considered posting it and I was immediately like "I should post this, get some responses"
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>>24947514
>Dawn of the Density God which used them a lot.
For some reason I can't see them for more than half a second. I even turned off adblocker, the ads show but the story images don't stay.
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>>24947166
I always get tired of writing a story by the 15-20K mark
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>>24946804
Thanks, I'll try!
>>24946810
I do have ADHD but can't afford to get it treated right now.
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I'm embarrassed it took me this long to realize that the meta for RR was writing in the style of a translated JP novel...

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I am reading deleuze’s what is philosophy at the moment and the part about the creation of concepts, the analysis of their components and the resulting impossibility of discourse in philosophy is blowing my mind. The discourse becomes impossible or at least fruitless because the terms and concepts discussed, although homophones, aren’t comparable because they’re on different planes of thought and have different components. So we think we are speaking about the same things, while only confusing ourselves and wasting our time.
I mean the idea is almost trivial, while the execution and explanation is outstanding.
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>>24946062
Doesn’t matter, don’t care.
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>>24946039
sounds interesting. haven't read WiP, but i've found his (maybe related?) concept of the plane of consistency to be really useful for thinking about artworks and the miniature model worlds they represent.
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>>24946235
It’s applicable to most things, I guess. But in philosophy it explains why there’s is no common ground like in the sciences, a set of basic principles everyone can agree on.
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>>24946235
It's an interesting take, it frequently appears to pull from GS, Twighlight of the Idols, and maybe a few other odd parts where you try to move as quickly as possible, think as slow as possible, and sift even slower. The results appear just as varied. You could have 2 guys who tie their left hands together and play stickpin refutation, a sumo match, or just one guy trying to navigate a minefield. The key part for some of this for Nietzsche at least is that the concept is already there so instead of finding a potentiality you basically look for how actual but there isn't really a limit on this. Nietzsche claimed it could isolate specific instincts, you get a theoretical edge for the successive attempts.
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how the frick do your formulate any concepts in ur mind.then

>it's literally just smut
Why do pseuds love Batallie so much again?
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>>24942746
i can smell your leaky clitty
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>>24941974
>But story of the eye is pretty much only smut
It's also deeply sacrilegious.
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>>24941966
because it's smut
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>>24944633
You're unironically validating Bataille’s entire project while thinking you're dunking on him. You're completely missing that he literally defines coherence as servitude because he's not trying to build a system, he's burning the library down from the inside specifically to filter midwits who need a "lantern of coherent thought" to feel safe. He's wearing the scholar mask to rot the institution of reason with filth. And complaining about pseuds getting lost in the fog is hilarious because Bataille explicitly wrote for those who would misunderstand him. Opacity is the removal of the safety rails so you can experience actual expenditure. You didn't expose a fraud, you just admitted you can't handle a fire that doesn't exist to keep you warm.
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>>24944942
...hot

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I willingly didnt return my library books after the library near me is suddenly going through unexpected renovations and its been sitting on my shelf for close to a year since i was too lazy to drive across town to another library.I was planning on returning the books when the library opens again in a couple months but at this point i'm tempted to just keep em since I've just been buying my books instead for the first time in my life instead of using the library and i'm liking my growing collection.The library books are the illiad, the odyssey, the aeneid and mythology.I wanted to have this certain set of books anyways and at this point i dont wanna pay for it.Is this wrong of me ? Who else is gonna read these old books in my crappy bumfuck town in the middle of nowhere?they probably have multiple copies anyways.
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>>24945997
Filtered
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>>24945852
So what if he can't read, he plans to sell the stolen books to people that can read
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>>24945935
/thread

simple as
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>>24946054
I have to go return some library books
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>>24945935
>DO WANT TO LIVE IN A LOW TRUST COMMUNITY?
Your community is minority white, that's already gone. All that's left now is gatekeeping knowledge from the brown horde by stealing library books.

ToT UOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>24947577
Stop...
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>>24947594
>see this in forest
wat do
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>>24947649
tell her to undress so i can inspect her body and then molest her. i wouldent raper her though, im not a monster
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>>24946003
Are there actually people who think Dumas is better than Hugo?
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>>24947658
That's pretty fucked up
>>24947666
Hugo is a better writer, but they both owe their torchbearer Honore de Balzac

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Why yes, half page descriptions of lamps and countertops with the occasional interjection of brain dead criminals speaking futuristic ebonics. It certainly deserves all the praise. Were people really that bored in the 80s to enjoy this?
I'm not finishing it. I feel my neurons dying in real time. I was right for putting it off for so many years.
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>>24947487
By taste, which is perfectly reasonable. You really should have a filter against poor taste.
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>>24946610
gibson's autism is cool but his writing can get pretty bad. he's an ideas guy.
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Knowing about the Bleak House study is like a curse. I'm constantly reminded of the fact that the average modern english major has less reading comprehension than an illiterate Victorian factory worker.
>half page descriptions of lamps and countertops
It used to be that when I saw "criticisms" like this applied to books with perfectly normal prose, I assumed it was just a matter of bad taste. Now I realize that there are many readers who are literally not capable of reading a sentence of descriptive prose longer than five words. It seems that nine times out of ten, complaing that a book is "overly descriptive" is merely outing yourself as functionally illiterate. I simply cannot take you seriously, OP.
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>>24947621
yes, but the book does suck
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>>24946610
you haven't read burroughs or pynchon, have you?

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Do Tolkiendrones realize that fantasy existed before Lord of the Rings and that it suffered greatly from Big Fat Fantasy and other sloppy derivatives that grew like viruses from Tolkien's wen?
https://voca.ro/1Rwc7lMX0hfT
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>>24946980
>I think he misunderstood Peake's criticism and took it out of context to fit his own politics.
He literally didn't get further than >muh prole destroys >muh castle hierarchy, LE GOOD!!!!, I guarantee it.
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Autists want their safe wish fulfillment fairy tales, not anything meaningful. That’s why isekai slop is so popular these days.
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>>24947228
Because you two misunderstand (or simply haven't read) the OP quote, I can guarantee you are wrong.
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>>24939820
give me an example of good fantasy then, I haven't read anything in the genre since I was 12.

With both books and movies, my rule has pretty much been: if dragons are involved I don't give a fuck
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>>24946129
wait, Pyat was the Eternal Champion? I thought he was a minor character in the jerry cornelius stories.

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I asked them when the FUCK are they going to release the e-books of Rodney Merrill's translation of Homer

The reply I got was they didn't purchase the rights to the e-book, so they couldn't

REEEE
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kek ereader fags btfo once again
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>>24947465
Rodney Merrill. He has no issue with the rights I don't think since he released the audiobooks narrates by himself for free. But I don't know how to contact him since he retired. He's currently working on the Aeneid. He also done the Oresteia and the Argonautica.
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>>24947459
Why read Merrill instead of other translators?
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Freedom of religion was a mistake.
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>>24947582
Because his poetry is much more elegant and is more faithful. Uses high sounding language and writes in dactylic hexameter. He specifically translates Homer with the idea of how it sounds when read out loud, since he considers that more true to the Greek considerations

Good night frens.
Tell me your:
>favorite poet
>favorite playwright
>favorite composer
So I have some new comfy suggestions.
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Scriabin
Scriabin
Scriabin
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>>24940941
>Wagner
>Wagner
>Wagner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLAxoXMpK5o
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>>24940941
gn
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>>24944066
>favourite composer is kanye west
lmao
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>>24947638
that's a perfectly respectable answer. in fact, thinking it isn't is rather a mark of being a pseud

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"Hemingwrite" edition

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>>24941061
>pointing fingers at the dark
I thought they didn't like to be called darkies.
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Is encouraging courage, gallantry, and the sacrifice of your very life for others dead in fiction now?
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>>24947623
Mercedes Lackey is still around
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All of you are abrasive retards and pseuds
Brian Griffin is a better writer
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>>24947573
there are 5 Victoria stories that I can gather

1. A sci-fi story about a Victoria trying to stop the Sun from exploding
2. A Historical Fiction of Victoria becoming a saint
3. A generic fantasy of knights, magic, and hero's journey
4. An erotica of Victoria going around conquering the world and pegging/raping Barbarians, Vikings, Kings, Black slaves, Jeets, and any man with an asshole
5. A contemporary Victoria story where Victoria goes back to her father's house after 14 years after her mother abandons her for BBC

Overreading makes you retarded.
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>>24947361
>Kant: "imagine if everyone were a misanthrope at Christmas."

>Hegel: "you're on the wrong side of history. *unintelligible*."

>Nietzsche: "charity is actually a sign of strength."
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>>24947453
Stirner's philosophy is right but it's also psychopathic.
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>>24947172
Kind of interesting how Schopenhauer came up with the core of his philosophy when he was still relatively young, at some point I had that realization that he wasn't a bitter old man writing that but rather a young 20-something year old
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>>24947378
You’ll never know how your meme meant to me, bringing me straight into the philosophical support for my currenty worldbuilding. Truly, thanks.
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>>24947612
Lol

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Is Thomas Pynchon schizophrenic?
I've always heard that PKD is a schizo but I think PKD's were more like manic psychotic breaks than full-blown schizophrenia.

Pynchon was in his late 20s when he wrote V. and the Crying of Lot 49 and in mid-30s when he wrote Gravity's Rainbow. He's led the life of a total recluse since. Makes me think he started experiencing symptoms of schizophrenia in his 20s, as is usual, and then it progressed and he went into hiding.
After GR he wouldn't release another book (Vineland) for almost 20 years

Pic related
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>>24946208
>highly-functioning schizophrenic
John Nash is another example
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>>24946197
Because you already received substantive replies and failed to engage with them. To continue soliciting replies to a question you aren't really interested in is pointless. All you want to do is push a misinformed amateur diagnosis
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It was a different time. There was similar literature floating around, like the Illuminatus! trilogy
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slopmas shitchon
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>>24946208
>man is disgusted by modern industrial society and fights back against it
>”dude he was just a schizo lol don’t look into it”
Psychiatry is a meme and you’re a retard for pushing those memes a truth


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