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well that sucked

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>reading Demons by Dostoevsky
>feel bored all the time, my desire to read it drops with every page
>eventually drop it at the 400 page mark after procrastinating for like a week
>pick up Gravity's Rainbow
>immediately absorbed, read 50 pages in one sitting
This marks the 2nd realist novel that I dropped in a row (the previous one being War & Peace).
GR? I haven't laughed this hard since Ulysses (Cyclops had me roaring). Slipping on a banana peel? Putting a banana pajama pants? "Incoming mail"? Corporal Wayne? Giant Adenoid? All the fun little songs? Now that's more my style. Give me goofs and gags, not soap opera drama.
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>>24739070
I'm glad you're finding out what you like in litterature, anon
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>>24739070
Great, you do you!
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>>24739070
It wears off
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>>24739070
>Dostoevsky
>Realistic
>Ulysses
>not Realistic

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This was recommended by /lit/. I'm almost done reading it and I think this book has at least 5 or 6 typos, the most of any book I've read so far this year. How does that happen
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>>24737450
Read Bulfinch and get that Arthur/Charlemagne kino
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>>24739655
imagine following the stupid flowchart. just read the iliad first.
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>>24737450
That’s nothing, desu. Try reading this piece of shit. A glaring typo every other sentence. No idea how this was even published. Might get the penguin edition.
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>>24739701
Was about to recommend Bulfinch
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>>24738099
Are there any books like Jung that combine psychological insights into mythology? Or maybe something philosophical and mythology like Nietzsche?

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>His Principia Mathematica side hustle imploded. Gödel the God-fearing Christian ruined it.
>He had epistemological trolls that any atheist Reddit neckbeard could have come up with and that were less sophisticated than those of Sextus Empiricus and Hume.
>His theory of descriptions was completely unnecessary, a midwit answer to something only midwits see as a problem ("[Meinong] argued, if you say that the golden mountain does not exist, it is obvious that there is something that you are saying does not exist -- namely the golden mountain; therefore the golden mountain must subsist in some shadowy Platonic world of being, for otherwise your statement that the golden mountain does not exist would have no meaning. I confess that, until I hit upon the theory of descriptions, this argument seemed to me convincing.")
>Even his stupid paradox in naive set theory that bears his name had been prefigured elsewhere in letters from Zermelo.
>Continental scholars routinely demonstrated his misunderstandings of Continental philosophers, toward whom he had emotional, Anglocuck revulsions unbecoming of a thinker.
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>>24739460
>And if it is retarded, it is only because it touches on the essence of humanity, which lies beyond the narrow vision of Reason.
You're embarrassing yourself by using the term "reason" incorrectly. You should be saying "understanding". Capitalizing Reason like that is a German idealist move but you're buggering it.
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>>24737090
Wrong. Principia Mathematica fell out of relevance because set theory is so much simpler. Godel had nothing to do with it.
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>>24739460
I couldn't disagree more. I recognise that continental philosophy has a broader scope and, comparatively, seems to cover more questions immediate to our reality, but that's not the case, not all analytic philosophy is strictly foundational, and I share the view expressed above about Russell's questionable relevance. He no doubt popularised an emergent approach to philosophical enquiry but, in the end, his contributions proved slight and were quickly settled within his own lifetime. Not everything is about the principia or the tractatus, it is a broad tradition, moreover, far from endorsing atheism (analytic Thomism has a considerable number of exponents). There are philosophers of language, yes, but also philosophers who deal with aesthetics, identity, epistemology, and ethics.

Continental philosophy is retarded not because it touches on a sensitive subject (quite the opposite in my opinion, for decades now no contemporary continental philosopher has undertaken the least metaphysical or ontological work) but because it has no method, at least not since Bergson, who was the end of lineage from Descartes' analytic method. A large part of these philosophies produces hundreds of pages out of gross category mistakes, linguistic problems, and a lack of definition that a grotesque inflation of jargon failed to allay. In her lexicon to Deleuze, Buydens wrote “smooth space is a space of proximity, of intense affects, unpolarised and open, unmeasurable, anorganic and populated by events or haecceities. Smooth space is opposed to striated space, that is, metric, extensive and hierarchical. To the former are associated nomadism, becoming and haptic art; to the latter, sedentarism, the metaphysics of subjectivity and optical art.” Who can seriously believe that this gibberish has any meaning?

A great Hellenist, Martin L. West, said of scholars that their role was not to bring obscurity into what is clear, but to illuminate what is obscure (non fumum ex fulgore, sed ex fumo dare lucem). That is clearly not the case for a large part of the post-war European philosophical tradition. Besides, I find the clarity and concern for rigour of analytic philosophy in medieval scholasticism, and right through Spinoza, Descartes, Leibniz and even, in a sense, Kant, proof alone that it is not a British excrescence but a return to a valuable methodology capable of producing something other than ill-formed propositions and crude intuitions.
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>>24739725
>continental philosophy is hard to read
>who the fuck knows what this sentence could mean!
>philosophy should be written in clear, ordinary language that's easy as shit to understand
You can't think in a genuinely unusual way about reality using plain language. Your critique is lazy and stupid, you had me going at first, I thought it might be a legit effortpost, but no, you make the same vague, pseud objections as any other 15 year old on this site.
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>>24735825
>Bertrand's logicist foundations was a completely different program which Godel did not refute.
You're not understanding the "baby's first" texts that you're reading. Godel destroyed the logicist approach to foundations. Other approaches like modern set theory, proof theory, and category theory are in opposition to the logicist approach and a response to Godel's fatal blow.
>>24739692
>Godel had nothing to do with it. Principia Mathematica fell out of relevance because set theory is so much simpler.
Modern set theoretic foundations developed in response to Godel destroying logicist foundations, you dummy.

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Why don't more authors use incest as a plot device?
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>>24739415
>i don't want to have sex with my actual family I'm not brown
Incest is an Aryan-Romantic duty to preserve the purity of the bloodline, though. The worship of the Self involves marrying your cousin, also a part of you.
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>24739681
ESL, falseflag, or diluted virgin?
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>>24739685
Your categories mean nothing to me. Engage in good faith.
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>>24739681
you should marry your cousins there's good evidence it is genetically beneficial and selected for, but the extended ones not your close cousins.
Marrying your 1st cousin generation after generation gets you to a bad place.
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According to roman era census records of occupied egypt sibling marriage was notably common perhaps 20% of marriages with some 40% of men with a marriable sister actually marrying her.
Many challenges have attempted to discredit it the idea but a number of pieces of evidence arose that reaffirmed the sibling marriage pattern such as wedding invitiations, naming pattern quirks and successive census returns of the same household.


For a long while I've wondered just how different their society must have been.
Do any of you know any books that attempted to tackle a world such as this where the incestuous marriage tabboo was seemingly absent, a woman marrying her brother was just considered a normal part of everyday life without the outcry of fetishism it attracts now?.

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The hotel staff, I think, considers us useless freeloaders who have come to America – land of honest laborers with crewcuts – to eat them out of house and home. I know all about this. Everyone bitched about parasites in the USSR too, bullshitted about how you had to be useful to society. In Russia the people who bitched were the ones who worked least. I've been a writer for ten years now. It's not my fault that neither state needs my labor. I do my work – where's my money? Both states bullshit about the justice of their systems, but where's my money?
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>>24738411
If you are going to say that at least show a picture of him with Chris or the homless black guy.
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>>24738398
It's Me, Eddie is more a thinly veiled memoir than a fictional memoir, hence the subtitle. It is pretty good but picrel is what a fictional memoir really is.
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>>24738398
Wow, he wrote three fictional memoirs about a guy just like him where all the facts conveniently align with known facts about him. What are the odds?
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>>24738844
>all the facts
well where's the proof then?
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>>24738920

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I heard the movie Forrest Gump has interesting historical references. Should I watch Forrest Gump just based on his interest in literature?
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>>24739143
>sob story
its a comedy, understandable a 13 year old wouldnt notice

>>24739137
its worth watching just in general, its a very decent movie. if you know what the vietnam war, black panthers and hippies are then you have all the necessary historical knowledge
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>>24739498
>comedy
I didn't find anything funny at all about it, still dont unless its unintentional. Dunno what kind of comedies you're watching
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It's a boomer nostalgia slideshow (as in literal boomer, someone born between 1950-1965). Watch it if you want to see a bunch of outdated pop culture references, I guess.
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>>24739567
Not that anon, but maybe you should watch it again so you're not gumming up the board with ignorance. It's very clearly a comedy riddled with social satire.
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>>24739498
>>24739648
I'd say it's a dramedy.

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>"Directly after copulation, the devil's laughter is heard"

What did he mean by this?
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>>24739639
>>24739643
or no..?
nice self-own you dip
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>>24739678
copulation with someone you love feels better and fills you with meaningfulness.
copulation with a whore forces you to reflect on your pathetic animalistic nature, diminishing your spirit and connection to divine purpose.
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>>24739690
if you're a man, both fill you with meaningless.
masturbation makes you feel worse but there's still no wholesomeness in the afterparty either way.
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>>24739700
masturbation is the same. You are just masturbating with a living fleshlight.
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>>24739707
somehow it isn't the same (you can't trick your instinct, there's a real life woman there)

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The more I read Kant, the more I realize he was on a wholenother level. Everything before was kid's play. It really separates the men from the bois.
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And, right now even, more people are reading Kant right now, this instant, than ever in the history of mankind.
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>>24739693
nta but yeah. The booked sort of memed itself into me.

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Uncial edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>24697657

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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Latin is easy
It's the authors who are the problem
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>>24738749
>>24738938
Both wrong
Latin is descended from Bantu dialects as Africans founded Rome after building the pyramids.
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nova pellicula calvi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5o9XTF_t_Y
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>>24739307
the face of the smuggest pedophile
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>>24739307

Has any woman in the past 50 years written anything worth reading? Picunrel I haven't read it
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Helen Dewitt's The Last Samurai is one of the best novels of the 2000s, Lydia Davis and Joy Williams' microfiction is pretty awesome, and Kathy Acker is to die for. Sally Rooney is a bit corny, but she's not bad.
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>>24737604
Also Olivia Laing, Rachel Cusk, Louise Gluck, Claudia Rankine, and Maggie Nelson all write some pretty interesting poetic work/ creative nonfiction/ general meditative literature.
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one of the GOAT short story collections…
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>>24732155
Op have you ever tried reading any book
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tfw no Duras gf to have a toxic relationship with

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the fix is in
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>>24738510
Thanks for the kind words. I haven’t really tried to market it because I want to make sure at least some people like it. I also don’t think it would do well with a general readership. It’s definitely an acquired taste I think. People who like Vonnegut, Heller and Bukowski will enjoy it. People looking for a John Williams novel aren’t gonna like it. I’ve had mixed reviews here so I’m not sure what to make of it. I’ve been thinking of printing stickers. I’ve started leaving copies of my poetry chapbooks in coffee shops and hotel lobbies.

Sorry to hear about the job situation. Can’t put a price on principles though, so kudos.


I’m glad you appreciated the America themes. That’s what I was leaning into. This land has lots of problems but I love the people here.
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>>24738092
this opening paragraph actually got a chuckle out of me. i'm going to give your book a read in the next week or so and rate it on goodreads for ya.

and i wish you and all the other anons on this board who are writers the best of luck with your endeavors it takes a lot of courage to share something you poured yourself into with strangers on the internet.
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>>24738814
Thanks so much. Appreciate you taking the time to read it. It takes a turn towards serious by the midway point that will hopefully suck you in.

Also just as an fyi for anyone else. I updated the manuscript on the print and ebook formats on amazon. I also lowered the prices. The print format is 8 bucks and the ebook is .99 cents. I just want people to read the book.
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>>24738826
would you do a single book signing and ship it to australia? ill pay you (paypal) 10 usd plus the 8 it costs plus shipping to my post office box
i emailed you about you book already, morriskatlyn if you remember
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>>24738873
Sure lol. Go ahead and email me. Might take a few weeks because I need to order new proofs

tyrion stroll edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

old: >>24704184
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>>24739612
There’s no proof of gods existing in the ASOIAF-verse.
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>>24729508
I notice that in his statements and blogs and stuff GRRM seems to talk about Wild Cards often but does anybody actually care those novels?
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>>24739626
Except the one that lets you bring back dead people and spawn shadow assassins and the one that lets you do greenseeing and warging
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>>24739612
the Seven gave the Andals the power to conquer Westeros and cast down the blood sacrificing demon worshippers who inhabited it before
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>>24738777
boring and gay fanfic
saying this as a sansa hater myself

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Suddenly I’m not so against burning books
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>>24735902
So you're agreeing with the quote then?
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>>24736741
it's wild that someone would type up something this fucking generic and post it. have you ever had an original thought in your life?
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>>24739561
>/pol/turd reading comprehension
KEK
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>>24734747
Presumably the same white women who paid an upper caste indian woman thousands of dollars to scream at them for their privilege.

I can see it strategically placed on thousands of white liberal coffee tables, so that the brown coworkers they awkwardly invited over can see it and know they are among allies. Kek
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>>24734798
That book predates his entrance to politics.

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>On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this, The point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants. What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning, Those who believed in him were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Muhammad forced others to become his followers by the violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on the part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimonies of the Old and New Testaments by making them into fabrications of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place any faith in his words believe foolishly.
>https://isidore.co/aquinas/ContraGentiles1.htm#6
how do you respond to this TRVKE without sounding mad?
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the medievals had an Indiana Jones tier understanding of Islam
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>>24738779
>>24737577
>muh christkek theologian refutes islam
>muh sand mystic refutes christianity
midwit central
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>>24739656
Okay. Thanks for your input.


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