>cynicism is the most persistently correct perspective>cynicism also drains you of any desire to earn any success in this world
>>24725412Try not being a pussy?
>>24726870As Diogenes Laertius recounts of Plato’s “responses” to Diogenes of Sinope- cynicism is a largely performative philosophy which intends to show everyone around you how ‘modest’ you are by living frugally beyond the point of it making any sense and wallowing in filth like an animal. It is entirely for performance. Plato says if Diogenes that if you want him to come in from the rain you stop giving him attention and then he wouldn’t be outside in mud getting rained on to earn social capital by shirking technology and clothing and a shelter.
>>24723919>if you want to get laid, you need to learn how to play the social game.no you simply need to be attractive. the more attractive you are the less it matters what you say or do
>>24726968Did you notice how I explicitly pointed to Antisthenes as opposed to Diogenes, or did you just see the word "cynicism" and stop reading?
>>24723765Heraclitus wasn't a cynic
My literary analysis class textbook has a section on feminism and it begins with two and a half pages of based quotes from famous authors.
>>24725365Why does everyone have to bring up the French all the time here?
>>24726604Where are these level headed feminists except Camile Paglia?
>>24724888why is a quote about plato attributed to plato? are these people retarded?
>>24725446>>24725542From the Life and sayings of Amma Sara of Scete:"Another time, two old men, great anchorites, came to the district of Pelusia to visit her. When they arrived one said to the other, ‘Let us humiliate this old woman.’ So they said to her, ‘Be careful not to become conceited thinking to yourself: “Look how anchorites are coming to see me, a mere woman.” ’ But Amma Sarah said to them, ‘According to nature I am a woman, but not according to my thoughts.""She also said to the brothers: It is I who am the man, and you are the woman."
>>24727478
Once upon a time there lived a king and a queen. To put it simply, they had everything — literally everything imaginable, plus a few things that probably shouldn’t exist. Everything except children. That saddened the queen and drove the king to despair. Despite their age, they never gave up hope. In his free time the king carved toys, and the queen sewed tiny outfits for a baby that didn’t exist. One day, the queen sat quietly by a pond, embroidering yet another infant shirt. Suddenly, a frog hopped onto her lap and, in flawless Russian, said in a human voice: “Your Majesty, intel says that in nine months you’ll have a daughter. Tell your comrade the king so he can adjust operations accordingly.” The frog then jumped back into the pond. The king and queen were overjoyed, and indeed the prophecy came true. A baby girl was born. They named her Arya, after a great-grandmother—or maybe for some other reason. To celebrate, the king threw a massive party: musicians, entertainers, celebrities—Schwarzenegger came, Elton John, Pamela Anderson, even Depardieu of course. Most importantly, seven fairies were invited. An eighth was left out—because she was on an international wanted list for magical dealings with the NSA. The feast began. When it was time to bless the princess, the first fairy raised a golden shot glass of cognac and declared: “You will be fabulously beautiful—almost like Britney Spears, only better!” “You will be as smart as Einstein!” said the second. “You will be richer than Abramovich, and never sanctioned!” promised the third. “You will be as loved by the people as Trudeau at his peak!” “You will paint like Picasso—or at least like Tristan Tzara!” “You will crush your enemies like Caesar, and your friends like Stalin!” Everyone waited for the seventh fairy, the most powerful one, with ties in the White House. But then the windows burst open. In a cloud of green smoke flew in the eighth fairy. “Partying, are we? And why wasn’t I invited?” she asked politely. “Well… we forgot! And besides, you’re kind of wanted internationally,” the king and queen stammered. “Forgot, huh? Take vitamin B5 for memory. So here’s my gift: when the princess turns 15, she’ll prick her finger on a spindle—and die!” She vanished in more green smoke. The kingdom’s air-defense radars detected a high-speed, low-altitude target but failed to acquire lock, as operators were already overwhelmed by a swarm of unidentified drones crossing the border. Containment protocol failed as usual. To be continued..
I just wanted to say I absolutely loved this book as a kid and loved the sequel Speaker for the Dead. I plan on getting into Xenocide as well.I also heard the final book just came out and I'm excited to get into it but it also brings in the "Shadow" series. I've never read them how are they?
Isn't it weird that Ender's Shadow totally negates the singular importance that Ender had in Ender's Game? Shadow implies that Bean would have been a better choice.
>>24725417>God Emperor is balls-achingly boring.Its a character focused exploration of Leto. Compared to 5 and 6... where hardly anything happens, and all that excellent character writing is thrown out of the window.>At least something happens in the last two books.There's only one decent POV in 5 that makes me not call it completely trash. 6 is actually just abysmal dogshit, it was probably for the best we never saw 7 considering it would've been worse in all likelihood.
>>24725014How fucking gay. Imagine milking it this far. How embarrassing.
>>24727271Does it? I don't remember it much but I'm pretty sure it said multiple times that Bean is too autistic to be a good leader and his superintelligence is borderline useless because people don't like him as much as Ender.
>>24727320nta but it somewhat does, basically bean figures out that the ansible exists > its possible for ender to be sending commands to real soldiers in real time > thats almost certainly what is happeningtheres a line said by graff where he says to never have ender directly interact with anyone bean has interacted with just in case ender figures out the twist >borderline uselesssure maybe but enders game clearly has ender trusting bean to take over half the fleet regularly there are very very few holes in the series, at least to what i saw
what is your notetaking system?how do you write down ideas and stay organized on the go?
>>24727617Leave space for a table of contents and number them so you can have a separate notebook (if needed) that catalogues the notebooks themselves.Much easier to do digitally, of course. There's also the question of whether you're taking notes to help remember in the moment, or to archive. If you actively write down your thoughts, most of them won't be of the "archive type."
>>24727592You're meant to not be meant to anything>>24727617You just read through them and go by dates. Your memory is supposed to work for you, not be outsourced somewhere else.
>>24722820I just jot shit down as it comes. Maybe if I have enough random thoughts coalescing around a central theme, I'll make a spot for it in a commonplace book, but otherwise I just jot it down and color code it with a sticky tab.
>>24727651Oh also, I keep a book of quotes, a proverbs book if you will. No particular order to it, also just whatever comes along, but it is separate.
>>24727592>>24727617Why would you write notes if you're never reading them again? Is everything you do performative?
>one of the most beloved novels of the 18th century>21th century female readers don't even know it exists>male leftists HATE itWhy is that?
>>24726713Have you seen the goodreads reviews?All the negative reviews are by men whose top rated books are by Stephen King, Rowling and Star Wars adaptations.
>>24726868Lol, are you really going to listen to someone who uses terms as "dated" and who only read the summary? The joke's on you.
>>24726901I have a Goodreads account, but I've never paid attention to the reviews and ratings because they're embarrassingly bad. Maybe there are some good reviewers I could maybe follow to maybe make the site a little more useful, but it's not something I've gone out of my way to look into.
>>24726904Cut the jive talk, smurf breath
>>24726808Reveries of a Solitary Walker is also good
This board feels like arguing with two old lovers stuck in bins while one guy loudly screeches in a chair and pisses himself, and makes as much noise as possible, and everything is dying slowly. Everything is turned grey. And we’re out of pain killers.
>>24727405My roll? Guessing that is some /mu/ism, I don't spend much time there and it has been at least a decade since I have known their memes.
I dunno, guys, I've been on 4chan since 2008 and I don't really feel the desire to leave. I don't even think /lit/ is that bad, really. I'm not bothered by the site, I love this place, it's nice to talk freely without having to have what you say attached to a name or a personality.I'll be here until they shut the site down, and I don't think /lit/ is dead, or dying any time soon.
>>24727416Show me one (1) /lit/ post that of worth
>>24722857>Yeah /lit/ is dying./lit/ isn't dying, the quality of poster is dying. If every board is complaining about this, then it's largely attributable to the newer waves of posters.Young newfags are too angry and have too short an attention span. They don't make for fun or interesting posters.
>>24727476>largely attributable to the newer waves of postersI've been thinking about this too, but I don't think it's as big a factor as it initially seems. If there were enough newfags coming into the site to influence it negatively, the userbase wouldn't be in the free fall it's in right now due to a constant influx of incoming anons. At worst, the numbers would remain stagnant in the same way 4chan's population used to shrug off bygone >summerposting, but that's not what we're seeing here: there's an observable drop in activity on every board. Nah, I think the reason's something more, but other than bots, I have pinpointed it just yet>numbers != qualityYeah, you could argue that numbers != quality, but no way do I want each board to begin aimlessly wheelspinning its own topics like post-2017 /ic/ does, for example, that's simply not a good outcome
I'm actually impressed by his prose, I'll give him that
>>24727383Bulgakov was a doctor too.
>>24727061The money thing: by all accounts McCarthy was in the air force in Alaska, worked part-time at an auto parts warehouse in Chicago briefly, and then spent the rest of his 20s and 30s playing pool, writing etc. Sure he maybe received some grants, but I don't understand (as a poorfag) how he managed to buy at least one house, renovate it, plus pay for utilities, food, clothing, gas, an MOT, haircuts, beer etc by just existing. Either he worked some other kind of job(s) - which I think he would probably have talked about as they would have bolstered his everyman image - or he neeted and received some kind of money/dividends from his family. His father, after all, was a highly-paid lawyer and I believe his brother became a lawyer too. It makes me wonder whether two wealthy men would leave their son/brother to live on beans and rainwater, and if a guy like McCarthy (ambitious, lover of women, used to a certain standard of living from childhood) would waste away in extreme poverty because he bet his life on earning money from literature. Just a thing that makes me curious is all, as I've become suspicious of the whole rags-to-riches narrative over time.
>>24722193Just so we're clear, MFA stands for "MuthaFuckinAssholes", right?
>>24726241There's a pretty big difference in connotation. International volunteers acting on their own accord isn't a massive escalation, uniformed armed forces members is. It's the difference between sabre rattling and World War Three.
Do we have any proof that he wrote it? This cynicism towards aristocracy and interest in the lives of common people don't strike me as sentiments he would hold.
>Start with the GreeksUhh yeah no, I'm not going that far back but I am willing to start with the Byzantines
>>24727356No. The Orthodox Romans from Year 1000 would tell you to start with Church Fathers particularly the works of the Three Hierarchs.Start with your Best: Cappadocians > Athenians just as Theology > Philosophy.Read the Theologians FIRST and the Philosophers LAST
>>24727639>Read the Theologians FIRST and the Philosophers LASTPhilosophy without God is literally pointless: hence why it's THEO Logia: GOD'S Logic/Wisdom, not's Man's as Philosophy anthropocentrically presupposes.
>>24727639Why?
>>24727645 see >>24727644Was expecting you to post a second later.God precedes man. That's why you study God and understand His Phenomenology/Worldview before you can have a complete philosophical/anthropological worldview (mankind didn't make this place or itself).
>>24727653>That's why you study God and understand His Phenomenology/WorldviewIt took philosophers like Husserl/Heidegger ~2 millennia to get to what Theologians Gregory Palamas taught in the 14th century, or St. Athanasius did in the 4th century.Orthodoxy is Theo-Philosophy: Philosophy that makes sense by borrowing God's Eyes.We're all called to be like Christ: to be Saints and to know God's Will.Thus follow Christ, illuminate with the Holy Spirit, so that the Father may know & teach His Children.This is why you follow Orthodox Christian Theology.
can i get a quick run down on houllebecq?worth reading? where to start? is he based? or, as i have a read in a couple of reviews from leftists, is he very subtly satirizing the far right?i just read an interview with him in the financial times and it does seem his contempt for the leftist "elites" and islam is genuine.
>>24727530No one else has overcome the liberal elite as hard as he has. His insights into the modern world and the state of Europe were almost prophetic, and he ignored all liberal sensibilties (which one needs to become a successful mainstream writer nowadays) to depict things how they actually are: and as such he became successful because no one could ignore what he had to say, even if they denied it as simple literary shock tactics. Atomised, Submission, Serotonin have all accurately diagnosed problems with modern Europe in a way that isn't right-wing schizo babble or childish leftwing muh capitalism. Once Europe moves past the plagues of modernity, Wellbeck will be lauded as one of Europe's most insightful writers of recent times.
He predicted Charlie Hedbo attack and yellow vest movement
>>24727397I tried reading him expecting something existentialist that would put me in a gloomy mood but all I read was sex sex sex benis boobs bagina.
>>24727554>dude, he like, preaches to the choir
>>24727397He's a freaky little goblin. In a good way.Read Elementary Particles or Submission.
Books with this feel?
>>24727261This isn't even a feel.
>>24727614Thanks for giving me permission not to read it, that is actually what I was after. I am going to ask again even though I doubt I will get an answer, why did you not just take his advice? put it all onto him?
>>24727634>that is actually what I was after.The desperation was coming off of you in waves.
>>24727649>still avoids the simple questionOne simple question is all it would have taken to put it all on him, instead you tried to win with autism.
>>24727658But I did win. Your question is moot.
maekar I targaryen, first of his name editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>24681455
>>24726954> "Back in my day, authors only had to do one thing- write."What did he mean by this?
>>24725543He'd get fucked over big time. Honestly would probably be the best possible timeline. No one likes Tywin, he had just murdered Ellia and her children and sacked Kingslanding. The Rebels and Dorne would probably put him down.
>>24727294The Rebels? Robert supported him in the actual timeline and didn't want to be king. Dorne couldn't do shit. And of it got bad enough, he could execute The Mountain and the others.
I just thought about it and realized the bran ending actually makes perfect sense. He’s the only character that fully follows the tropes of a hero/messiah (early life brush with death from being pushed out the window etc), and if you had to choose a single POV to release as an optimistic YA novel it would be bran.
>>24725543>Who does Tywin marryMaybe Cat>Who does he name his nameAssuming you meant hand I think either Jon Arryn or Hoster Tully>and place in charge of Casterly RockKevan>what's his relationship with the north like.Bad, even worse assuming he steals Cat from them. Hoster is ambitious, I wouldn't put it past him to snub Ned for having his daughter become queen.
Why are you not a New York Times bestseller yet?
>>24727534Something something jewsSomething something people of color
>>24727537I understand fully.
>>24727534I'd never tarnish my posthumous status with such drivel. May they rest in the desert of mediocrity.
/lit/bros? maybe this whole "female slop" genre isn't actually that bad...
>>24727561>"STRONG WOMAN" becomes a docile, submissive housewife to an alpha maleI can see it.
>>24727574If anything the greater conservative subtext of smut is that the blank self insert FMCs at the start of the books are always miserable, broke and alone. Regardless of their educational credentials or line of work. They are not strong or happy, they are desperate for Scrooge McKnot to sweep them off their feet.
What’s the designated term or grouping for these types? It’s not Marxist or leftist, there has to be something more on the nose.
porn for women has to be "conservative" because "traditional" thought describes the female libido as is, whereas feminism presents an aspirational view they hope (unrealistically) to achieve through social engineering. actually existing vaginas don't get wet at men crying about their feelings. actually existing vaginas don't care about consent because they predate the concept. so romantasy can only maintain a superficial facade of feminism that comes down as soon as the erotic content begins. i guess from a loony leftist perspective it looks like a purposeful propaganda tactic but it's just how the product needs to be built to meet audience expectations.
>>24727631They're just liberals. Liberalism is the entire ideology of libertarianism, conservatism, and liberals. They're all one box. If they complain about conservatives, they're complaining about liberals that are moving too slow.
I can read a Harry Potter book in a day, but reading something with a denser style and actual substance takes fucking long, and is exhausting, especially informative or interesting nonfiction. After reading 30 minutes of a book like The Secret Teachings of all Ages, I can continue to read attention-wise, but my brain actually takes in and understands stuff much more slowly, up to the point that its kinda useless to read on.Its better to actually understand what you read, but it makes the process of finishing a book take soooo fucking long.What do?
>>24727395get up, make some tea, read a poem, watch an episode of beavis and butthead, stare out of the window, and after 10 minutes head back to your desk. that's what i do.
>>24727395Talk to someone about what you read, it'll illuminate the depths of the ideas and give you a deeper appreciation and motivation. In ideal circumstances, you'll be able to predict the direction of the book (or provide divergent ideas for comparison) which will make it easier to read. If you dont have a friend, try journaling
>>24727395its practice, and you can also pick out "harder" books so you can work up to reading something like your examplefor example, you can read harry potter in 2 hour segments (or whatever timeframe is better), and then you can read treasure island in 2 hour segments. then you can work up to dune and then you can choose whether to read harder modern books or translations of books written 1000+ years ago >>24727437also this is great advice, but ill add something. if you dont have someone to tell about the paragraph you read in x book (they dont care) and dont want to journal you can just talk outloud and try to explain what you read to the ethers
