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Any books that disprove this meme?
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>>24733405
But dont mathfags get into paraconsistent logic to skert the LNC
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>>24733433
outside of mathematical logic itself, I guess only for specific applications in specialized contexts. everything else needs it. though I'd imagine paraconsistent logic might open up something new in the near future, like how complex analysis became a thing once mathematicians decided to extend the reals by creating the 'imaginary' unit i = sqrt(-1) and the complex plane and found a billion new applications.
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>>24733439
then why do their approximates to their lim->x keep showing up in nature?
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>>24733601
neetche's worst subject was math so I don't blame him for showing his ressentiment against the eternal language of reality.

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can anyone who knows what they're talking about recommend a path/point of entry to analytic philosophy
i am reading fear and trembling and there is direct reference to hegel who i attempted to read but find unparseable
all the overviews of western philosophi i can find are school of life type self help bullshit so i have nowhere left to ask

the first reply to this will inevitably be some glib meme free of content like "start with the greeks" or "read the sticky".
i dont want to become a specialist in ancient greek/pre-greek literature or whatever the fuck that "how to read a book" chart is doing.
the charts posted to the sticky are all sophomoric memes made as a joke by schizophrenic groypers who all they do is collect and curate wikipedia abstracts. swaths of that shit just no one outside specialist historians is ever reading. you cannot tell me the original Lavoisier's Elements of Chemistry is a worthwhile time investment relative to how commonly it is recommended, by people who don't realize they're recommending it. You can't tell me the typical poster is writing with a working memory and understanding of the contents of Fourier's original Analytical Theory of Heat. This is an educational trajectory an 8 year old with google search would imagine.
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does anyone have opinions on Kenny's Brief History of Western Philosophy
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>>24732373
>can anyone who knows what they're talking about recommend a path/point of entry to analytic philosophy
Depends on what you're interested in -- aesthetics? metaethics? phil of mind? -- but just google "metaethics introductory textbook" and look for one that's mostly a compilation of papers with introductory/contextual apparatus. If you're more specific about what exactly you're looking for, I can help more. But "point of entry to analytic philosophy" is too broad. It's like saying "can anyone recommend a point of entry to prose."
>fear and trembling
This isn't really analytic philosophy.
>hegel
This isn't really analytic philosophy either.
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>>24732373
keep in mind that listening to lectures is a lot more digestible than directly reading the primary sources. sugrue gets suggested a lot for this, and it's for good reason. good luck.
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>>24732373
Roger Scruton's Modern Philosophy: An Introduction and Survey is a good introduction to 17th century-to-present philosophy from someone who was trained in the Analytic tradition. Scruton was also a big fan of Hegel, so you'll get a nice dose of Hegel from the book, though it's definitely Scruton's take on Hegel.
Copleston's multi-volume History of Western Philosophy is a good read, though I'm not sure how approachable it is for a beginner. I've read parts of it and haven't found it to be terribly obscure, but I also have an advanced degree in philosophy so take what I say with a grain of salt.
If you're looking for lectures on Youtube, the Arthur Holmes history of philosophy is supposed to be quite good, although I haven't listened to it myself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yat0ZKduW18&list=PL9GwT4_YRZdBf9nIUHs0zjrnUVl-KBNSM

>destroys Marxism with petty bourgeois ramblings and artistic sentimentalism
why were they so powerful?
more specifically why were and are their books funded and printed everywhere, yet most people read Marx and Engels from old translations?
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>>24729218
>more specifically why were and are their books funded and printed everywhere
Literally CIA
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>>24729218
>why were they so powerful?
>Publishing bad books for US intellectuals is power.
They were so weak because they were bourgeois intellectuals.
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>>24731868
Your resentment and ad hominems aren't genuine thinking Rockhill.
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If I have to read that essay about art and reproduction one more fucking time...
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using bourgeois as a term of abuse is extremely gay.

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I'll start

"ontological"
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>>24732767
>erm, actually everything is a spectrum, sweaty. like gender
this is the true midwit take
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>>24732744
>"ontological"

Why? What's wrong with the word? Fuck you.
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>>24733425
Cavemen were higher iq than us. They simply chose to live with minimal technology after their Ted K. published his manifesto. Read The Immortal by Borges
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>>24732771
That NAFO le maymay saying ontologically evil which used it incorrectly really did damage

A better word to use is ontology, which has to do with how you perceive reality. Like the Ontology of a sodomite is either totally whacko or übermensch to ontologically prefer loose poopy shithole to nice tight pussy for sexual gratification
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>>24732744
not 'ontological' but stuff like 'ontological evil', which is meaningless because 'evil' is a privation, and thus has no being in itself.

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“Bird course” is probably just antiquated by this point, and “breadth electives” as a phrase is likely to be institution-specific, as not every school requires them, and not every school that does calls them breadth electives.
It’s a common enough thing throughout the country (I swear!). I have no idea whether UBC specifically has ever required such courses, especially in their engineering programs, but I rested on it being a commonly understood idea. Incorrectly, it seems.
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>>24732439
I've encountered and taken what you'd call breadth electives, just never that specific terminology, always something longer like "non-[program] electives". Maybe I've heard of bird courses, but it never stuck in my memory. Did all of my schooling in Ontario, for what it's worth.

I'd say "bird courses" makes sense without knowing it in advance, while "breadth electives" to me almost sounds like the opposite, like in-program electives. I'd lean in favour of region-specific terminology for character.
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>>24732439
neither 'breadth electives' or 'bird courses' gets across to non-Canadians that the classes are easy; for communication's sake you're probably better off with 'cakewalk classes' or similar, regional specificity be damned in favor of clarity
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>>24732528
dont listen to this schmuck go regional go hyper slang
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>>24731859
>looking for a good place to kill himself.
What would the modus operandi have been?
I think you should be explicit with his method.
It’s somehow sadder if he knows how, but doesn’t know where.
>Never one to be satisfied, Newman keeps driving until his car breaks down in Little Nineveh.
I didn’t know he’s “never one to be satisfied.”
If you had snuck in that character trait earlier—like, how Newman’s endless TikTok-swiping is his way of chasing perfection—this end result would have seemed more fated.
>he begins work at the gas station to pay for repairs.
>4:56 a.m. The last of the scotch and soda is gone, having become mostly flat anyway.
With these two sections back to back, I see an opportunity to connect the disabled car to Newman’s “soul” to the un-fizzied beverage:
Be explicit with some of the problems the car has—a broken transmission conjurs “a broken translation.“
Engine problems means he’s heartsick.
Shattered windshield equals Newman’s not seeing things clearly.

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>solves political philosophy
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> If, as Strauss suggested, what Schmitt was really working towards was the notion that all value-setting as such is political, then there was little basis from which to criticize liberalism for moralizing political conflicts. Schmitt’s critique of liberalism depended on the possibility of keeping areas of the realm of values distinct from each other. But, as Strauss observed, this is impossible if all values can become political. Schmitt’s attempt in Concept of the Political to limit the intensity of political conflicts by keeping them distinct from moral issues is thus absurd.

BTFO’d by Strauss
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>>24733021
That is a notable point. Strauss may not have completely btfo'd him but his criticisms were enough to cause Schmitt to amend his work with Strauss's commentary. Schmitt dug that hole for himself by recognizing certain types of classical liberal thinkers as being more politically pure and he also cited Marx which is basically a can of worms for him since Marx acknowledged almost any means even if it's just a nod towards a theoretically bankrupt option. Schmitt is forced to acknowledge his whole view of human nature is just tautolical for the work itself and in order to prove otherwise he would have to disprove his own work. Schmitt can always just revert to Nietzsche but if that's the case then he didn't contribute anything.

Strauss likely was the fully evolved and superior theorist.
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I can almost guarantee OP hasn't read Schmitt and doesn't understand the friend/enemy distinction. I'd bet a kidney on it.
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>>24732432
Based. Politics is nothing more than tribalism.
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>>24732719
If the answer was pogroms, then it would have ceased to be a question a very long time ago

>He took out the plastic bottle of water and unscrewed the cap and held it out and the boy came and took it and stood drinking. He lowered the bottle and got his breath and he sat in the road and crossed his legs and drank again. Then he handed the bottle back and the man drank and screwed the cap back on and rummaged through the pack. The ate a can of white beans, passing it between them, and he threw the empty tin into the woods.


Can someone explain what's great about prose like this? To me it reads like it was written by someone with special needs
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>>24731025
He thinks that counts as substance because he's retarded. Pay no heed
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>>24731174
Fucking mong.
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>>24731149
Actually quite good. Consider as opening salvo in your brutal modern satire.
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>>24727688

Here:

>zoomba do be dat bap but she thot nah foh sho dis dood blap. motherfuckers. crackerjackaflipabitchastick. piss

Satisfied?
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>>24727688
Cormac? The greatest

But why isn't anything writing like it anymore?
America is still a decadent rich society with an upper crust partying leisurely espousing retarded ideas and stepping on pathetic and weak poor people, but is there a single good book that can combine a fiction based on their pastime with verbose and lofty emotional experience?

None of the characters in the book and very complex, nor is the plot beyond the readily imaginable, so please can we get a 2025 equivalent with private jets, international resorts and elite parties? Have our writers simply stopped living with an open heart anymore? No intelligent liberal arts students to give expression to the practically minded zealots; it just feels we have become so poorly inarticulate.
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They’ll just watch Succession and get a vaguely similar idea.

Anyway, who gives a shit about high school lit? You should have hammered out these hangups in class with Mr. Teach.
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>>24733315
People still write about people having a lavish lifestyle, just look at A Little Life by Yanagihara.
The thing is, those books aren't any good because the publisher picked up the author based on her race and gender and not her skills or talent.
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>>24733315
the money is in hollywood so a lot of the more talented writers are trying to tell stories in films or streaming shows and the writers who are writing books about the great gatsby are all communist trannies

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Uncial edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>24697657

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>24732900
utinam numquam
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I always wanted to read the dead sea scrolls in hebrew, and yes, some are in Aramaic, but that seems like a less all around useful language, of course, depending on what you are interested in like Assyrian archeology or Chaldean culture etc.
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>>24732900
Minecraftium
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anyone know where I can find raw texts or epubs of OE texts? Wessex Gospels would be ideal.
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>>24732652
no but I do find that when I'm doing composition the greek-latin lexicon often comes to mind and I often prefer using it; as a beginner in one of them though maybe it could be more challenging, though rewarding

Is causality a fundamental law of the universe, or is it a concept our minds use to make sense of the world?
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How does the answer effect me on a personal level? if nothing changes in my life the question wasn't worth asking.
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>>24732505
See Hume. See Kant.
See https://philpapers.org/browse/causation
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>>24732505
It's fundamental to the part of the universe that is possible to describe. We can't go deeper. Quantum whatever doesn't matter, statistical causal relationships are still causal and we can only describe that facet of the phenomena.
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Read After Finitude
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>>24732931
Studying causality is important because it Improves decision making and Supports prediction and intervention

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What are some books that explain this problem.
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>>24732496
Mm'kay.
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Daily reminder that "muh capitalism" is a spook invented by communists. It's their Emmanuel Goldstein.
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>>24732476
People associate criticism of capitalism with retarded communists and therefore feel deeply uncomfortable when they hear it. Thus, the "corporatism" cope, as well as redefinitions of the word "capitalism" that make it so broad as to be meaningless. This is the biggest reason why billionaires fund communist groups: they're so obviously stupid and evil that they scare normal people away from any criticism of or alternative to capitalism.
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>>24733546
>why billionaires fund communist groups
Name 5 billionaires that do this.
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>>24733163
Good to see there's at least one person on /lit/ who reads.

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>Calypso offers Odysseus immortality if he will marry her
>he still says no even though he admits she is way hotter than Penelope

Why?
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>>24733397
It's like how there are Jewish group where the women are supposed to cover their hair so they wear a wig over it.
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>>24733397
Most Muslims who put themselves out there on video are usually not very devout. Many of them fear that videos and photos taken of them could be used by evil magicians and thus take care to limit exposure (we probably should aswell).
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>>24733397
>>24733422
Truly, no matter what rules man devises foids will find a way to foid
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>>24733397
performative clout chasing
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>>24733314
>he admits she is way hotter than Penelope
>thinking that Odysseus is telling Calypso the truth
This is why you are a sad lonely virgin

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Hi, I've been issuing a web novel that's been having large amounts of readers on chapters 1-3, but after that has been only getting about 1/10 of the readings after it. Is there something wrong with ch. 3 that turns people off??

It's written in a free-verse style, which might have turned some people off from ch.1, but what I see is people dropping it halfway through. What could it be? I'm thinking of just doing a complete review of the newest ones, because it has less editing done on it. But I doubt a lack of polish would really deter readers.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/128737

Much thanks.
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>>24732030
Fag, I'll break the bank first. Just let me eat my cereal.

>>24732173
I'll try, boss

>>24732232
Yeah the truth unless I form a cult of personality through diverse and unique works and get my own shouting podiums on the side
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>>24722943
A big drop off after the first few chapters is normal. You're off to a good start imo if you got those 46 followers in 35 days without ads.
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>>24732525

i put out 2 ads ;_; insurance law firms gotta eat

i'll probably keep posting
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>>24732693
No, please kill yourself already
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>>24733041
if you say so

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I saw this mentioned on /x/, so now that I've read it, I'll bother all of you with it.

In 2016, a Reddit user started posting random shit under unrelated posts. He talked about MKULTRA, Nazis, glowies, and "Flesh Interfaces." After a while, his posts started to form a somewhat coherent narrative.

Alright, so first of all, you can read it for free directly on Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/9M9H9E9/wiki/narrative
Or in ebook form: https://github.com/cryzed/The-Interface-Series-e-book/releases
But I don't recommend it. More on this later.

The story:
Intriguing at first. It's delivered in a very matter-of-fact way that /x/ regulars will be familiar with, like how /x/tards usually spout inane nonsense like it's common knowledge.
And it's good! It's gory, and some might even say disturbing.

But then, about halfway through, the author realized he had no fucking clue where he was heading with the story and shifted the focus to a few characters, including himself.
We haven't reached "bad" yet, because the writing is still good, but if you wanted to know more about Flesh Interfaces from that point on, well fuck you pal.


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Here's how the Github ebook is formatted, btw. This is the first page of a new chapter.
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Just watch the fucking Wendigoon video like all the other youtubezoomers and leave me alone
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>>24732282
And now same page from my revised version.
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>>24732283
Why the fuck would I even do that?
That reminds me that most ratings for this "book" on Goodreads are by people coming from some random podcast. That's why it's overrated there.
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The Down the Rabbit Hole video on this is very good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6qCvDceFro

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Now don't be a meanie and spoil it.
I bought it after having read Anna Karenina- well it's been some years since I've read it.
I don't know if it's the specific book I've gotten but I'm already faced with a bunch of French passages and translations in the footnotes. A bunch of despicable boring nobles.
I should know better than to ask, but it gets better right? And when it does, it's not simply about war, is it? There ought to be some peace as well?
How does it compare to Anna Karenina is what I'm asking.
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>>24733355
I don't mind the length. I wouldn't say that your criticisms are what I thought to be the case but I welcome them and thank you for your input. I suppose AK started with a bunch of nobles frolicking around just as well, but there's something about high class dinner parties wherein the author doesn't ridicule the characters which turns me off from reading.
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He's actually dead the whole time
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>>24733355
>look guys! guys look I've just read those quotes where Nabokov talks about writers look!
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>>24733384
This. A homeless man named. Fydoor-Hodor is flapping the cadaver’s mouth up and down and speaking the words from behind the coffin.
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>>24733560
How did you know that about me, and that it was me?


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