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Can developing the habit of reading heal my brain from years of doomscrolling, porn addiction and isolation that deleted my attention span, memory and gave me a costant brainfog?
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>>24944239
this guy is kinda wrong about one thing
I went through this whole stuff--started by being obsessed with DFW, read and reread IJ and TPK after using them to 'detox' from other forms of media, started working out and engaging with the real world, got a job and whatnot, but I actually found some excitement there, though ultimately all casual talk boils down to media consumption. culture isn't inherently bad, a good book makes a good conversation point and interests in the occult or whatever lead to deeper personal philosophies and something to talk to. a monkish monkey life in modern society means isolation, and dudes usually drop the ball here, but the universe rewards expressions that can notice what is lacking in the whole
that said math books are as stimulating as video games, even more. so is engineering a project or something. it's not like video games, at least mmos and rpgs, aren't devoid of delayed rewards and lots of grinding, the stimulation is usually the same when you can apply a theorem or a little bit of knowledge in real life or see the abstract in it to construct proofs...it's just vidya before vidya came
having a passion in media can make you a genuinely more interesting person. the only thing is to never just consume, grow interested in producing it, approach it like art, learn not from the passive act but the engagement in the whole, though never let it blind you. it's a passtime. careers and work are pastimes. an excuse to live (and maybe delude yourself into thinking it's necessary, it's something greater) but it's an excuse we all need.
this life is empty and cold. we engage in the cold for rewards merely out of boredom, and that's alright. but don't live for anything less than your passions, everything else is suicide
it helps to have good passions and addictions. mine are women and video games desu. discover yours
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No, your life is in a downward spiral because of structural brain issues. It's a malady of modern times, called "neural net model collapse". Rediscovered with the advent of generative AI, researchers realized that AI models trained on AI-generated output experienced model collapse. Devoid of the outliers and long tails of real-world data, the model's parameters clipped to zero or one, rendering it all useless. A similar phenomenon happens in human neural-networks if they're trained on human-made and other artificial data, instead of natural data. The pathetic shutin stunts his development with anime, vidya, pr0n, virtual human contact, and the confines of his little room, stunting his neural development beyond all repair. The inevitable result is all too common—seething, sexual perversion, and increasing suicidal ideation. If there is any cure, it involves going outside, getting away from the city, and experiencing nature in all its complexity. But that assumes it's not too late.
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>>24947146
When I was in psych wards, I didn't have access to electronic devices, pornography, or music. I spent most of my time in groups, reading, progressive calisthenics, socializing, and doing arts/crafts. Finding a safe space to jack off was annoying, so I limited it to once a day. Ironically, the porn I had consumed was helpful in getting me to finish faster because I could just remember the pictures. Food was whatever I was given, so although it might not have been the perfect homegrown keto diet, I didn't have to think about it. My personal objects were limited to my arts and crafts, a collection of group worksheets, and stuff for hygiene or whatever.
What is interesting is that preparing for outdoors survival is different from preparing for a stay in the psych ward. Any hobby that relies on knives is impractical in a mental hospital. Music is limited to music channels on TV. Going outside is a luxury limited to one hour a day. So anons like to fantasize about how they would survive if they were stuck in the mountains, but you'd have to be stupid enough to go there in the first place. A guy I knew was stuck there because his mother called the police and made up a story about him being suicidal.
I periodically think about if what I have or what I do would be feasible in a psych ward. I recommend this thought exercise if you haven't thought about it already, if only because it is interesting how "basic" hobbies like cooking and sewing can be considered luxuries.
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Cutting out short form content, algorithmic social media, and getting off this shithole is a good start. Instead of doomscrolling twitter, read some articles that interest you, instead of watching some bullshit on instagram reels or whatever watch a quality movie or documentary. Start reading some lighter books and set a goal of pages ler day and increase every week. Going cold turkey from everything and reading a Tolstoy novel is setting yourself up for failure in my experience. Obviously it's all just other forms of media consumption and it's important you find some real hobbies where your physically active with your hands and body and engaging with the world and people, but reading and watching quality books is exponentially healthier than getting mind raped by what passes for "entertainment" today
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>>24941231
The world has changed more since the industrial revolution than the previous 10,000 years combined fuck off with this there's nothing new under the sun bullshit

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How do you actually overcome post-modernism?
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>>24949778
>t. pseud
NTA. You seriously can't figure it out for yourself?
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>politicians pander and lie
I like Zizek but this point is so lukewarm it beggars belief
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mai waifu gives me the strenght
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>>24948572
>How do you actually overcome post-modernism?
Gas chambers. Real ones.
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>>24949625
Why would being a Catholic on 4chan make me a hypocrite? It's possible to use this website without sinning, you know.

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Erich Heckel edition
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Oh wait I just remembered what it was. Nabokov loved Mainsfield Park by Jane Austen despite his hatred for female authors but for some reason femoids hate it.
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>>24949955
Hit a soar spot their did aye boddy?
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Growing up and realizing U2 isn't cringe & kicks ass is almost as big of a redpill as becoming Christian. Literally cures your cynical personality instantly.
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>>24950316
yeh, tryna get sum fookin' kebabs out 'eah t-dae but i got me fookin' arse raped by a fookin' muzzie bastard. thought it was all o'er till i got up th'eah got me fookin' arse raped by a somali up 'eah i did din' I? as if that warn't bad enuff i made it to me fav-rite kebab place down 3rd n'wat-d-ye know there's a fookin' paki up in the place makin' a right fookin' seen out 'eah. so I tells 'im
>fook off ye bloody cunt!
n'jus when I leas' expeh t'it 'ee rapes me fookin' arsehole. by this bloody fookin' point i'm leakin' spunk down me boxers n'te the bloody fookin' pavement 'eah but the bloody cunt wouldn' fookin' stop. well right he pisses off, lets me get te-tha' kebabs right? cashier rapes me bloody arsehole again, I'm like, bloody fookin' 'ell mate?

kebabs were a riot tho, noice and tender jus loik me mum use-tah make.
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>>24950316
No, you just don't read, clearly. Go back to making /adv/ slightly dumber instead of dragging down the average IQ here by 20 points for no reason.

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are there any biographical books about chronically depressed historical figures that went on to accomplish anything?
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>>24947901
Uhhh maybe something about Kurt Cobain?
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>>24947901
Not about historical figures but maybe you should read
>Ferdinand von Schirach
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>>24947935
Mass murder is actually good
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No, and you're not going to dig yourself out of your hole.Your life is in a downward spiral because of structural brain issues. It's a malady of modern times, called "neural net model collapse". Rediscovered with the advent of generative AI, researchers realized that AI models trained on AI-generated output experienced model collapse. Devoid of the outliers and long tails of real-world data, the model's parameters clipped to zero or one, rendering it all useless. A similar phenomenon happens in human neural-networks if they're trained on human-made and other artificial data, instead of natural data. The pathetic shutin stunts his development with anime, vidya, pr0n, virtual human contact, and the confines of his little room, stunting his neural development beyond all repair. The inevitable result is all too common—seething, sexual perversion, and increasing suicidal ideation. If there is any cure, it involves going outside, getting away from the city, and experiencing nature in all its complexity. But that assumes it's not too late.
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>>24947901
Lincoln. Bouts of melancholia just like this image

The libretto is considered great poetry and drama of itself, accounted a masterpiece by many

Last week was Das Rheingold which covered the forging of the ring of power, its curse, and the jealousy and death that follows after the lust for it

This week is Die Walküre

Link to discord server if you want to keep track of threads
https://discord.gg/XhFGx57VKm
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>>24950211
Wait, I missed the Das Rheingold listen?
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>>24950211
Any links for videos of stage productions of the Ring? I have the book, but I think it probably should be enjoyed visually and audibly.

How does modern technology change Spengler's predictions? He probably didn't see europe becoming 30% foreigners by 2025 too.
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>>24948148
More importantly, why do people discredit horoscopes? Ancient people believed these schizos for centuries. Military plans that were drawn up for the Hundred Years' War was influenced by astrology. Charting patterns within the stars lead to practical applications like navigation and Newtonian science
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>>24948399
>I'm not enjoying it
>I want to finish it.

Where is this audience that you are reading the 1920s bald chud for anon?
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>>24949492
Contemporary horoscopes/astrology is targeted to retarded women with pig shit for brains.
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>>24947777
Checked
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>>24949772
Once I start a book a feel an obligation to finish it, mama didn't raised no pussy

What is the oldest book you've read that really disturbed you
I just finished reading Matthew Lewis' The Monk and was surprised by how brutal it still is after over two centuries
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>>24946642
Just FYI, all of the stories in Matt Cardin's Dark Awakenings were republished in To Rouse Leviathan.

Also, an expanded edition of The Secret of Ventriloquism came out.
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Well I finished up Loop and I guess the original Ring trilogy. That might be an all time swerve in fiction, probably the best case of fiction within fiction I've read.

I got the remaining other two books on my table, can't wait to see what else is in store, though I'm not sure how you follow up that ending.
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>>24946566
I can't stand her. And she's an absolute bitch in She and Allan.
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>>24948954
How's the novel itself?
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>tfw I want to write horror but it is never scary enough
This has to be one of the hardest genres to write.

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Best writers for increasing your vocabulary?
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>>24949924
alexander theroux
Thomas ligotti
thomas pynchon
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>>24949939
vased theroux
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>>24949924
Dwarf phrenology.
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Noah Webster
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melville and clark ashton

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Starting with Umberto Eco's On Beauty (you can find the PDF on Anna's Archive if you don't have access to a physical copy). The text for the first week is the introduction, which is fairly light on actual text. Accordingly, for discussion this week, choose one art item of each category lista presented in the introduction, the names of each piece are listed by them

Venus Nude
Venus Clothes
Adonis Nude
Adonis Clothes
Madonna
Jesus

If you would like you can post a bigger picture in this thread. Or just name the piece. And then talk a bit about why it spoke to you.

Link to discord if you want to keep track of threads

https://discord.gg/XhFGx57VKm
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>>24950153
I thought On Ugliness was much more interesting and I find strange that it isn't as widely available as On Beauty.
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>>24950301
Well that was next one this for the group.

It's probably not as widely available because it was released based on the success of On Beauty, not as an immediate companion work.

Ἁλικαρνασσόθεν edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>24877858

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>24916545
piss wrong. good textbooks and finding an efficient syntopical workflow are great investments.
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>>24945596
>Living Latin reader by Paideia

I read this this last year. I thought the characters and stories made for mostly dreadful reading, but it did have some interesting vocabulary.
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>>24949785
I googled it and found this.

https://www.paideiainstitute.org/living_latin

I already hate it because the cookies popup window had only "accept" as option. I normally click "reject" and when a website only has "accept" or when it's too much work to reject cookies because you have to go through a long list of check boxes, then I normally close the tab and don't come back. This website was too interesting for that though. Fuck them, I'll probably never go back.
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Thoughts on the Paideia Institute, is it good for learning? Big minus for forcing you to accept cookies but this looks good I have to say.
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>>24945596
>>24949785
Did you buy a physical copy of Living Latin reader by Paideia?

Are Paideia Institute's books available as free downloads? I see nothing on Anna's Archive.

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If you identify yourself by reading something that makes you appear smart, you are not a reader. You are a poseur. Especially if what you read is only chosen because it's been chosen for you by a consensus of "academics" and "critics" who couldn't hack into the sciences. Literary studies and English departments are by far the least intellectually rigorous on a university campus.
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>>24950033
Brother you were making a better point than the one you think you were making
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>>24950040
>he's actually convinced himself that his information is the good information
Yup, it's over for this manchild
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>>24950049
>I can’t think for myself and come to best conclusions possible based on given information and analysis
Again, stay at the kids table with your overgrown bedtime stories, faggot.
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>>24950164
Sure you do. You and every other glowie-poisoned politicsfag
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>stoner
Here's your (You). Now leave.

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What magazines are /lit/?
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>>24948737
The Goon Squad was the best article Harper's published in a long, long time.
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>>24949876
>libtard too embarassed to list libtard publications
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>>24948846
I've never regretted not taking somebody's opinion seriously who uses the word "reactionary" unironically
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>>24950175
Are you claiming that the trend doesn't exist?

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HAIL, /LIT
WHAT IS THE LOVE THAT PASSETH UNDERSTANDING? ANYONE?
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>>24950166
English speakers so obsessed with BBC they have it loud and proud displayed on the spine of volume II
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>>24950215
Reaching there

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Desperately reconcile with your irredeemable faith, sheep.
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>>24948329
Smug and superficial person, a stupid persons idea of a smart person, etc. However this kind of content brings me back to when I was a teenager and the atheist religion debates were so still raging, or at least were still going on, so yeah
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>>24950192
>my retard name
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>>24950199
Thanks for the (you)
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>>24949510
Inshallah but they'll just end up necking out of depression
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Any recc.s for non-fiction books that aren't just a biography, or a dull reference/history of x book?
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>>24949422
Holy shit, the guy from Minecraft and Jumanji??
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Dodge City
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>>24948190
Athos, or the Mountain of the Monks by Athelstan Riley. An 1886 travelogue in which an uppercrust Englishman takes his Anglican bishop friend on a trip to Mount Athos and its orthodox community.

The first 50 pages are competitively scamming his way through Europe (and he is defeated by Bulgarians) and then unending complaints about everything and being an awful person to everyone he meets. He has silver-pressed opium pills to give to annoying natives so they'll leave him alone, goes in great tirades about the 'natural indolence of the greek oriental', torments the weak and continually abuses his position. He even escapes Athos by lying and waving a letter around claiming the Ottoman Sultan gave it to him - he is duelling with Turks looking for bribes in this instance.

I can take or leave his descriptions of the monasteries and the churches but just reading about him, his friend and his trip is hilarious. Genuinely funny. I read something similar from an 1830 source, a British lieutenant, who was polite, respectful and utterly unremembered. I think Athelstan is remembered on the peninsula to this day for being a dickhead.


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