I wish I had a Dornish gf

>>24101277
I interpret it literally - Dany is going to get a painful bite to her private parts as punishment for caring about prophecy

>>24102106
>cheats on you

>>24102166
which region of Westeros has the most loyal women?

Who do you guys think will side with (r)Aegon in TWOW? Obviously we have the Golden Company who are very high tier soldiers in their own right. But in Westoros specifically;
>Aurane Waters
AKA the Lord of Waters. Basically universally acknowledged as one of Aegon VI's likely allies. Gets him an impressive fleet, and the Aurane's pirates under his command (could be useful against the ironborn)
He's also a bastard of Velaryon, who were Targ loyalists during the rebellion.
>Randyll Tarly
Another Targeryen loyalist. The show making him randomly completely loyal to Cersei was retarded, so I think it's fair to assume it's another of Aegon's plotlines that got assigned to her (similar to Dany and Connington's bells).
Also he hates women, so he'll obviously prefer Aegon to Dany (who'll come with foreign hordes as her main force)
I'm fairly sure his house is the one referred to as 'friends in the reach' by Peake (iirc)
>Mace 'the ace' Tyrell
Should the Tyrells ever get sick of propping up the biggest retard in Westeros AKA Cersei, Aegon is the obvious next choice. With Kevan dead, the Lannister cause is basically a headless chicken whether Cersei wins her trial or not. Marge's marriage to Tommen is really the only thing holding them together at this point. The battle of Iron could simply not happen, depending on if they make some arrangement.
>Storm's End
In a Winds preview chapter we learn that the fortress has been taken over. With it's reputation, it's likely that it wasn't besieged which would take ages. There's a theory that Aegon's forcess have Edric Storm with them, which could get some of the stormlands on their side.
>Dorne
Aegon is Elia's son. Doran's nephew. The alliance should be automatic. If the prince thinks the story of his miraculous survival is bullshit, he can always marry Arianne off to him. Incest be damned. Probably the safest bet of them all, considering Quentyn's fate.
>the Faith Militant
Cersei has been fucking her brother and all their offspring are bastards, which obviously goes against the faith of the seven. Should Cersei be rid of and Tommen the only one left standing (the implication of his bastardy being obvious), who will they turn to? Not Stannis who burns down statues of the seven. Aegon is the best bet. He's a follower of the seven.

Are there any I've missed? Knowing Varys, he'll probably have a few more at least. And once it rains, it'll pour, with many smaller houses declaring fealty.

>>24102168
The Vale possibly. Mostly because we don't know that much about society there. But the few women we meet from there seem to be decent. Including the women from the mountain clans.

>>24102222
Myranda Royce seems like a slut

>>24102106
we have med and mena girls anon, we are good af

>>24102166
if you can't handle the sex-drive, don't wife one up

>>24102168
riverlands probably. they are agrarian and chill. farmstead corn-fed trad gfs whose sole purpose in life is pumping out your kids. only way i can see one fuck an other man is if she gets raped by a marching army or if she was a camp whore.

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>Morally grey badass characters who can be perceived as the blackest villains or the greatest of men depending on which side you’re on
>One has a larger than life fantastical epic hero death escaping consequences for his actions and cementing his legacy
>one has a twisted grim humiliating death after his actions catch up to him ruining his legacy
Which is more kino? For me tywins is more realistic

>>24102225
Seems more like an obvious gossip and spy than slut. She's using those huge tits to get information, not sex.
>>24102226
>the sex-drive,
It's not even the sex drive, it's just that Dornish culture openly encourages their people to have affairs. I think the mountain houses of Dorn aren't as big on philandering but still do practice having paramours like the rest of the region.

>>24101846
Uh yes, little anon. Besides the long hiatuses, making all kind of excuses for Togashi and still waiting, the official story is not over and I doubt Togashi is going to finish the Kakin arc before he kicks the bucket like mangaka did before. So many plotlines will be left unresolved.

We will get The Winds of Winter.

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>>24102259
For me it’s Oberyn Martells death. Gods George’s balls were huge then

>>24101783
I yield. Let’s make peace.

>>24102221
Mace defiinitely won't be joining Aegon. It's been established he's a proud, blustering oaf who is obsessed with making his daughter a queen. He now controls the Iron Throne and the Small Council with Kevan dead. He's not giving that up for some pretender. He's going to take the fight to the Golden Company and probably get rekt because he's an idiot.

>Are there any I've missed?
The Brotherhood Without Banners and several Riverland houses will support Aegon if he promises to restore Edmure Tully and punish the Freys.
House Stokeworth (currently under Bronn's control)
House Rosby (has no Lord and Cersei didn't resolve the situation)

>>24102221
>>24102318
Poor Stannis :(

Who will support him and fight for him to get him on the Iron Throne?

Only 48 days til into the lost lands boys. Our wait is finally gonna pay off

is Margaery a groomer?

>>24102318
>It's been established he's a proud, blustering oaf who is obsessed with making his daughter a queen.
He could always try getting her hitched with Aegon, no? If the sparrows back him, that means Tommen will be basically universally seen as a bastard. I think the Tyrells know where the wind is blowing, they did the same thing when Renly was out of the equation. Once valuable vassals like the Tarlys start ditching them it's not like Mace is worth a damn in battle. I might be overrating how shrewd they are.
>>24102323
Stannis has the support of a bunch of nothern houses, and it remains to be seen how things will turn out with Jon and Rickon. But yeah, he's not a great spot long term, even if he's likely to win the battle of ice.

The Golden Company has to be on the same level of military importance as one of the kingdoms, right? Robb went to war with 20k northmen at his side, and those were levies consisting primarily of peasants. In contrast, the GC are made up of professional soldiers who've been fighting for a living for generations. Obviously Robb makes up for it with his skills as a tactician, but the point stands. 10k might not seem like a lot when the Reach, the most populous kingdom, can field around a hundred thousand, but the difference in quality must be huge. Oh yeah, and they have elephants.

>>24102404
Forgot to account for the fact that the GC doesn't come with any land that they can sustain themselves off of in my post. I guess that's a point against them. Still, I think they'll do well in future battles. It'll be interesting to see these exiles come home to their keeps after, in some cases, several generations in essos.

>>24102395
>He could always try getting her hitched with Aegon, no?
No, he can't. Margaery has been married to three ((Baratheons)), has a broken maidenhead and is currently accused of having gangbangs and orgies with half the men in King's Landing. She's soiled goods and stuck with Tommen. They can't just throw him away and try marrying her off again.

Putting that aside, the storyline direction makes it more likely for Aegon to marry Arianne.

>>24102415
Ironically Cersei managed to strengthen the Tyrell-Lannister alliance by getting Margaery accused of adultery, they're pretty much joined at the hip now and will go down togethere

Many Reachmen will die in the upcoming book

>>24102221
Dorne will be the only significant ally Aegon will have (aside from named characters).
The Tyrell will be broken and Mace might die, Randyll and all of High Garden are inbound to the shields and to deal with Euron.
Storm's end is empty and whoever is left of the Faith after Cersei is done with them might ally with Aegon but they are few in number.

>>24102404
The Golden is the single strongest army in the entire world bar none. They are an army of westeros, only battle tested and extremely experienced to boot. And lets not forget the elephants lol
>>24102415
Even if Arianne could charm Aegon, JonCon would never allow it

>>24102259
Daemon is really cringe and GRRM's attempt at doing a forced badass character (Darkstar is another one)

>>24102404
>elephants
how do elephants do around dragons...

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>>24102660
>when rhae rhae pulls out the Valyrian steel strap on

What happened to Mance?
>mance wrote the letter while using his glamour charm to larp as ramsay
>mance was captured and was ramsay'd
>ramsay got all the info from a spearwife
>other

>>24102660
>badass
never heard anyone call edgy boy that and Daemon stopped being cool when he decided to destroy his niece's life

>>24102822
I'm about 90% sure Mance wrote the letter

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Did the anon who was reading Conan the Barbarian find any more ideas GRRM took. These guys being almost 1 to 1 with the Ironborn was a big reveal for me

>>24102404
>>24102414
>>24102652
>Golden company is one of the biggest and strongest sell-sword companies in the land
>dies in literally two minutes in S8
How D&D did the golden company in the show was borderline criminal.

>>24102660
Darkstar IS badass though

>>24102914
he maimed Myrcella who was growing up to be a 10/10, he's a dick

long live Ser Pounce

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>>24102914
>Men call me Darkstar and I-
>Who. Who calls you Darkstar. Name five.
>Y-you wouldn't know them. Household knights of High Hermitage
Why did Arianne call him out like this, he's helping her...

>>24102921
L*nnister abominations are marked for death anyway, Tommen is going to get poisoned early on to accelerate Cersei's schizo slide

>>24103004
Myrcella is cute
Shireen is ugly

Baratheons suck

>>24102914
>Darkstar IS retarded though
fixed

For hands of gold are always cold, but a woman's hands are warm

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>>24102168
>loyal women

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What the fuck is his problem?
>“Taking him? Where? He’s mine. You cannot have him.”
>Roose seemed amused by that. “All you have I gave you. You would do well to remember that, bastard. As for this … Reek … if you have not ruined him beyond redemption, he may yet be of some use to us. Get the keys and remove those chains from him, before you make me rue the day I raped your mother.”
>Reek saw the way Ramsay’s mouth twisted, the spittle glistening between his lips. He feared he might leap the table with his dagger in his hand. Instead he flushed red, turned his pale eyes from his father’s paler ones, and went to find the keys.

>>24102099
does anyone have the targaryen civil war dance of dragons wojak image?

>>24102822
>>24102852
i watched a video from a fellow called “quinn the gm” and he made a solid argument for theon writing the letter

>>24103223
Theon doesn't even know who Mance is and thinks he's Abel the bard

kinda funny how the circumstances surrounding both jon's birth and death are surrounded by mystery

Reminder that Mance showed up at Winterfell looking like himself and without wearing the ruby

>>24103245
So he's not Rhaegar?

>>24103228
Stannis knows. would mance know who reek?

Why did all the characters forget that Rhaegar stole a 16 year old girl and started a war?

>>24103174
Roose is literally me

>>24103262
same reason everyone forgot about obama and bush’s antics in the middle east

>>24103262
Rhaegar Targaryen was pegged at the Tower of Joy

>>24102822
I think he escapes, but the Spearwives get caught and through torture give up Mance's name, and Ramsey then writes the pink letter in a fury, but lies about Stannis, or maybe he does think he beat Stannis, hard to say.

Does the legend of the Bloodstone Emperor and Amethyst Empress have any bearing on the current story?

What's the India of Planetos?

>>24103360
I don't know, don't care about Essos that much

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>>24103360
Study this map

>>24103360
I don't think there's a good parallel. Volantis has elephants, but that's where the similarities end

>>24103335
>>24102822
I think they get captured when they get left behind during the escape. Some of them get killed too as I recall.
I think the battle of Ice ends ups up being a stalemate when the majority of both armies gets swallowed by the lake when the ice breaks, forcing both sides to retreat and recuperate. Both sides will try to frame it as a victory however.
Ramsey writes the pink letter in a fury as said by anon. He does have Mance and the remaining spearwives, they have been thoroughly tortured, revealing the rest of the info that became known to Ramsey as presented in the letter.
Ramsey signs the latter as Lord of Winterfell, for this i see three options:
1.: It is out of pride and he sends the letter without Roose's knowledge so he can lie and make himself feel better by claiming the title
2.: He actually is the lord of Winterfell, given to him as his seat while Roose rules the North from the Dreadfort. It'd give Ramsey legitimacy.
3.: Maybe Roose also died in the Battle of Ice, making Ramsey inherit the North.

>>24102905
what conan did that anon read?

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>>24103360
there does not seem to be a 1:1 equivalent to india
the names of the three cities of the bone mountains - kayakayanaya, samyriana, and bayasabhad (especially bayasabhad) sound indianish to me
it would also be funny if after all of these descriptions of asshai as this dark nightmarish place it turns out it's just india

>>24103460
>The buildings, streets, and walls of Asshai are made out of black stone that is greasy to the touch and seems to drink the light, making the city appear to be a dark and gloomy place. Structures include bazaars, halls, hovels, palaces, and temples.[5]
>Asshai and its few people have an ominous reputation in other lands. Asshai'i are described as having a dark and solemn appearance.
>The Dothraki believe that Asshai'i are "spawn of shadows" and hold them in contempt and fear.[6]
>All foodstuff and freshwater is brought in by ship, as animals brought into the city soon die, and the waters of the Ash glisten black beneath the noonday sun and glimmer with green phosphorescence by night. The only fish that dwell in its water are blind and deformed, and only fools and shadowbinders dare eat their flesh.[5]

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>>24103470
sounds comfy

>>24102778
There's no dragons in Westeros and there won't be any for a good long while either. The Elephants will probably fuck up westerosi knights pretty severely.

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>giants, mammoths and elephants on one battlefield

Imagine the carnage.

>>24103360
V*lyria

kino
>Gogossos,[1][2][N 1] once known as Gorgai, is a ruined city on the Isle of Tears, the largest of the Basilisk Isles. It lies on the southern coast of the island, facing the continent of Sothoryos.[1]
>The Old Empire of Ghis founded the city under the name of Gorgai.[3] The Ghiscari held Gorgai for between two and four centuries until the Valyrian Freehold captured it during the Third Ghiscari War and renamed it Gogossos. The dragonlords used it as a penal colony for the worst criminals. New methods of torture were used and blood magic is said to have been practiced, including slave women being forced to mate with beasts to produce twisted, half-human offspring.[3]
>Gogossos grew powerful through slavery and sorcery during the Century of Blood, with some calling it the "Tenth Free City". Its slave markets became as notorious as those of the cities of Slaver's Bay. Seventy-seven years after the Doom of Valyria, however, the Red Death emerged from the slave pens of Gogossos and swept from the Isle of Tears and to the rest of the Basilisks. Nine of every ten men died from the plague.[3]

>>24102221
>no mention of Lord Mathis Rowan
>no mention of Ser Bonifer Hasty
What the fuck is this list?

I can't take Euron seriously.

>>24103742
Cersei, please get off /lit/

>>24103742
You shouldn't, he is a red herring

>>24103742
You can’t but I can. Beware of Euron for even I fear Euron and the plans he has for Westeros and possible Planetos and beyond.

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>The picture of this sour old crone poking her wrinkled fingers up Margaery's little pink cunt was so droll that Cersei almost laughed
Cersei's chapters are a hoot

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>>24104058
For me, it's the servants tightening her clothes.

>>24103378
>the craters in Nipponos
kek

>>24103360
Volantis, or Asshai/Shadowlands. The former sort of reeks of India, but Asshai has mask covered people and it’s even shaped like India. Also ‘safffron strait’. These aren’t supposed to be perfect or accurate parallels. Even Yi-Ti appears to be a mix of southeast and east Asia.

>>24104187
You’re forgetting the literal mutant shit river running though Asshai, just like in India. Shadowbinders probably bathe in it as though it were holy.

Why do I get the feeling The Eyrie will become a dragon lair? Feels like an ideal place for one now that I think about it.

>>24104241
“Are there any other dragons here? No? I’m in charge”

>literal mutant shit river running though
God damn how did I not see it before
Asshai is Delhi confirmed

>>24104247

The moon door could be used as one giant dragon cat flap for them entering and exiting whenever they want to fly.

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>>24104289
I feel a certain kinship with GRRM. I too care deeply about fictional lore, and hate it when some bitch Hollywood writer or producer doesn't care. The Fallout show made me want to kill myself.

>>24104289
The centralism of the Valyrian peninsula was always a big mystery to me. Dragons AND Valyrians never felt like leaving for other locations, besides pleasure places like Lys.

What was so amazing and paradisical about the Valyrian peninsula? “The lands of the long summer”.

>>24104304
It was the polar of the land of always winter duh

So why did Margaery ask Pycelle for moon tea? Is she a slut?

>>24104313
One of her ladies-in-waiting got pregnant probably.

>>24104316
which one?

>>24104313
did she really do that or did that singer just make it up so he would stop getting tortured?

>>24104345
It wasn't the singer, Pycelle said it

>>24104340
She has some slutty cousins so those probably.

>>24104304
he based it on Melniboné. They conquered the world then let their empire slowly crumble because they had everything and couldn't be fucked to care.
Valyrians having everything they need already in Valyria is likely the reason they didn't much care about the outside world apart from making a few colonies here and there. They already had all the luxuries they needed, so why gamble that comfort and invest in a colony? Very few would take the risk.
In the real world, China was like this for the majority of history. There was very little they actually needed to import, so they didn't branch out as much as you'd expect a thousands of year old empire would've, since there was very little incentive

>>24104358
um sweetie they are all officially virgins

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>>24104313
Ultimate spoiler: Margaery and Pycelle were fucking

>>24104402
Margeary is male though. The clues are all there.

>>24104405
elaborate

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The ice elves and fire lizards will simultaneously devastate Westeros in an apocalyptic sandwich, each side led by a descendant of Aerys and Rhaella in a perverse fulfilment of prophecy. Aegon the Dragon arrogantly thought it was his house that would save the realm but it will in fact doom it.

Just kidding. George is too much of a Targfag to do this.

>>24104374
>In the real world, China was like this for the majority of history. There was very little they actually needed to import, so they didn't branch out as much as you'd expect a thousands of year old empire would've, since there was very little incentive
And then the rest of the world caught up with them.

>>24104506
Yes, like those ice dragons, which are "like, SOOO big, like TEN times as big as those gay fire dragons!". Why are Westerosi storytellers like this? It's like that old fisherman who brags about fish he caught.

but what does it matter
for all men must die
and i've tasted the dornishman's wife

Dornish don't bathe

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What if being a Wight isn't so bad after all...

>>24104567
>his book isn't 10% as good as ASOIAF
wow, really showed him...

>>24104563

What do you think sex with the female other seduced the 13th Lord Commander was like? It had to be pretty mind blowing for him to forsake his humanity and side with them

>>24104567
>>24104585
What even is that.

>>24104567
mega cringe

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>“Whether Winds or the first volume of Fire and Blood will be the first to hit the bookstores is hard to say at this juncture, but I do think you will have a Westeros book from me in 2018 … and who knows, maybe two."

>>24103440
Antillian Sigil: black kraken on gold with a red eye, combination of greyjoy sigil and eurons sigil
Lore and connection with iron islanders:
>The Antillians are the descendants of survivors of Atlantis [great empire of dawn] who travelled west after the Great Cataclysm in a mighty fleet of ships
[grey king and long night].
The Antillians worshiped the demon god Xotli the black kraken of Atlantis [drowned god/sea stone chair]who consumed the souls of many Antillians in ceremonies of mass ritual sacrifice. When the Atlanteans landed, they found a race of small brown, slant-eyed savages [first men or children of the forest] The Atlanteans easily conquered these natives and reduced them to the same state of slavery as the servants they had brought with them. During the millennia after the Cataclysm, the blood of the Atlanteans and the aboriginal Antillians mixed until these islands were inhabited by a single, mixed race.
George also further references Conan in his lore with the Cimmerians, zamorans and hyrkania

>>24104567
George BTFO

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>>24104611
>maybe two
kill this obese bastard, that shit isn't even funny

>>24104611
He sounds more and more delusional the further back you go. Especially when you see his posts from around the Feast-era freaking out because some users expressed concerns about the pace of the story.

>>24104408
Why would Renly agree to marry a female? Also conveniently never been pregnant.
Tyrell’s were getting frustrated after 3 sons and made the newest in their brood, “Margeary”, cross-dress.

>>24104600
Image search says it's the new book by Larry Correia (who had some beef with GRRM from the whole sad/rabid puppies spergout that happened around the Hugo Awards a decade ago unless I'm mistaken).

I hate how people pretend HotD S1 actually had good writing and that S2 is comparatively a massive drop-off that no one could’ve seen coming. It’s like this “consensus take” that others expect you to play along with, especially the retarded show-onlies that feed into the stupid Green vs. Black, Rhaenyra girlboss, etc. narratives.

S1 was just okay. It felt more like something you were putting up with (massive whiplash at every 20-year ellipse, nonsensical scenes like Criston hate criming the homosexual knight or Daemon luring out the Triarchy, completely failing to set up important characters like Aegon or other non-KL players in the Dance). Some interesting scenes here and there, especially the Viserys portrayal but hardly justifying watching the show on their own.
That being said, S2 might be one of the worst seasons of televisions I’ve ever watched in my life.

>>24104778
putting up with because you knew there needed to be a “wasted season” to set up all the pieces for the Dance*

>>24104778
/tv/ is the other way faggot

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>>24104759
>the whole sad/rabid puppies spergout that happened around the Hugo Awards a decade ago
Uhh... QRD?

>>24104807
This has become the de facto /allthingsasoiaf/ general. Don’t pretend like this thread isn’t made up of 80% /got/ exiles who also migrated to /tg/ when the general moved there.

Shows also tie into /grrm/ because they’re 90% of the reason the fat man hasn’t finished his books. He much prefers to be wined and dined by HBO teams and tour sets than sit down and write.

>>24104820
>He much prefers to be wined and dined by HBO teams and tour sets than sit down and write.
He's barely involved, stop spreading lies and fuck off back to /tv/

>>24104838
He only wrote Fire and Blood in the hopes it would give HBO more material to adapt, you retard. He loves to be around the sets and writing rooms when the shows are coming together, would probably have been involved with GoT to the end if D&D hadn’t shut him out around season 5, and he’s probably going to be paying even closer attention to the Dunk and Egg show now that he felt HotD were flaunting his œuvre.

George will do anything to distract him from writing the books, and staying relevant enough to do interviews for Late Night shows by nudging HBO to produce more shows is one of those distractions.

>>24104475
Yup, and they got fucked in the ass hard too when it happened. Utterly humiliated. Never underestimate your opponent. Even with modern technology China hasn't returned to the level of prosperity it once had and who knows if it ever will. That arrogance adding up over time fucked them up for likely centuries to come.

>>24104778
This. HOTD was housewife slop from the beginning

>>24104849
>he’s probably going to be paying even closer attention to the Dunk and Egg show now that he felt HotD were flaunting his œuvre.
He's barely involved with either of them, you're lying and intentionally shitting up the thread with concern trolling. Fuck off.

>>24104820
It isn't and it never was and i'm willing to bet there some ITT that have never even touched the shows, don't bring this shit here

>>24104877
Even if he isn’t (do you retards not know that he always lies), then I’m sure that Fire and Blood part 2 has taken precedence for him over Winds because he’s hoping to give HBO yet another potential television property in the form of the Blackfyre rebellion. He even admitted recently that he was working on both, after being adamant some years back that Winds was the only project he would be giving his attention to.

Don’t forget that he was also meeting with Maisie Williams recently for an unspecified project. Don’t forget that HBO has been hinting at a Robert’s Rebellion fearure film and there’s no way that George wouldn’t be involved. You sound poorly informed.

>>24104820
>>24104892
I dropped GOT in season 5 and haven't watch HOTD, I got into the series with the books around 2006

>>24104892
No one has brought up GRRM’s other works (the earlier sci-if stuff) in probably months.

>>24104898
>Even if he isn’t
He isn't, both the showrunner and GRRM attest to that. He's not involved with the production beyond giving advice to the showrunner which is mostly ignored, and GRRM seems to have fallen out with Ryan Condal so I doubt he's even consulting them anymore.

>Don’t forget that he was also meeting with Maisie Williams recently for an unspecified project. Don’t forget that HBO has been hinting at a Robert’s Rebellion fearure film and there’s no way that George wouldn’t be involved. You sound poorly informed.
You're lying again. Stop posting clickbait rumors as fact.

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>>24104948
HBO GoT-related movie:
>https://ew.com/game-of-thrones-movie-in-development-early-stages-hbo-warner-bros-8738039

Meeting with Maisie Williams
>pic related

I forgot that he has that fucking Harrenhall play as well.
What now, anon?

>>24104959
No confirmation of anything except that they're considering making it, it's a rumor

Are you done shitting up the thread with /tv/ bullshit or are really that dedicated to being a cancer poster?

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IVE ABANDONED MY CHILD

>>24104974
Half the thread was a /pol/ slapfight two days ago. We’ve already exhausted everything there is to say about the books years ago. Now we’re just left with David Lightbringer-tier autists who think the ending of the story hinges on whether the “Golden Empire of the Dawn” were lizards who contended with the Children of the Forest. At this point, the only thing left is speculation as to how George could possibly work on a book for FOURTEEN YEARS and still come short.

>>24104997
Fish fuckers are canon.

>>24104997
>Now we’re just left with David Lightbringer-tier autists who think the ending of the story hinges on whether the “Golden Empire of the Dawn” were lizards who contended with the Children of the Forest.

It's because most people can't write for shit so they use lore speculation as a substitute

>>24105030
Elio Garcia fat tranny energy

>>24105030
>STOP HAVING FUN AND DO MORE TWOW PREDICTIONS FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME
eat my ass nerd

>>24104778
Did you also get that youtube video reccomended that calls it a masterpiece in the thumbnail? At the very most the show is season 5 tier, as in it picks and choses what it wants to adapt. Though GoT s5 probably has more entertaining scenes in total.
By far the biggest red flag was turning the dance of the dragons into Rhaenyra vs Alicent. The BTS interviews with the retard showrunners are very revealing too, they aren't hiding their contempt for the source material.

>>24105099
Checked. I fucking hate Sara Hess to an unhealthy extent.

They’re literally name dropped as ‘deep ones’ and you think they aren’t fishmen rapists looking for prime human ass? Really? REALLY??

TWOW will end with Arya discovering Mysterios and killing the Night King at the Tooth using her noone powers.

>>24105105
Yes you are right about the world building influences and lore but since it won’t be relevant to the ending of the series you shouldnt ever talk about that stuff. Also im really smart for pointing this out

>>24105082
see >>24105105
this is what nerds do, they bother people with their dumb theories

>>24105133
I come to these threads exclusively for those theories. It’s the only part of this fandom that stimulates any dopamine at this point everything is picked dry

>>24105133
HOW is it a ‘dumb theory’ when the ‘deep ones’ are lit-er-a-lly a nod to Lovecraft’s fishy rapists from the deep sea? How are they not the ones who built Asshai? He painted a picture in clear view. So why would he need to do anything more? They won’t be relevant to the book because he already made it apparent what they are.

>>24105148
It's ok, I was the same until I hit 20

>>24105030
>can’t write
They basically wrote a whole prequel silmarillion about asoiaf’s untold mythos because george refused to do that for us. They mapped an entire untold history of asoiaf’ ancient eras by connecting bits of throwaway lore and weaving it together with speculative world building based on other inspirations George used. If anything they are too creative

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>>24105109
BAH GAWD KING HE JUST HIT ARYA WITH A 619

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>>24102099
I am Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, first of her name, rightful queen of the Seven Kingdoms and the Mother of Dragons. And if I choose to be fucked by impoverished young children in Flea Bottom, then I will be fucked by impoverished young children in Flea Bottom. I am their queen, their breaker of chains. I freed their lives, but those little boys throbbing cocks are mine to breed with whenever I command it, or they will be executed.

It's a shame, really. I wish there were more negro children in the village. Little nigger boys have the biggest dicks. Like my dragons, I prefer dark meat. Nigger meat.

Those ‘Fisher Queens’?

Literal plappable fish ladies.

Honestly the biggest thing I'm looking forward to in Winds is seeing guys like Preston Jacobs lose all credibility when all of their theories are disproven

Need me some fishy toad isle gals
I bet they’re strange in bed, but in a good way

>>24105244
It'll definitely mind break a lot of people. It's hard to live up to expectations of people who've been waiting for 14+ years and spent that time overinvestigating every little detail.

>>24105244
>Honestly the biggest thing I'm looking forward to in Winds is seeing guys like Preston Jacobs lose all credibility when all of their theories are disproven
What? You don't think that Storms End is a nuclear power plant? Silly chud.

>>24105244
I love Preston but I don’t believe most of his theories. To me, they’re just fun experiments of how much George’s story is dripping with detail that you can put them different things together and make a reasonable case that they are foreshadowing, or at the very least set-up that George may or may not decided to follow through on. The Riverlands of the Dragon, while not exactly up-to-scrutiny, was mindblowing to me the first I watched it because I’d never considered that George dropped enough hints about a potential Targaryen restorationist faction in the Riverlands and that the BWB was probably Aegon-aligned.
It really helped me see the richness of George’s story and so many plots I’m excited about because he opened my eyes to all sorts of set-up that George has done and pieces he has placed done (the Northern Conspiracy and Iron Born series are a masterpiece in that regard).

Love me some Preston schizo-babbling. Plus at this point, one of the best GRRM scholars.

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Was naga really a serpent lady?

>>24105198
This is the stuff I never care about
I don't care about that because it doesn't envolve characters that I know of, and usually, these lore books don't even try to develop the new ones

>>24105244
every theory under the sun has been theorized already, so all the theory guys have probably hit on a lot of what he'll write anyway

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>mfw thinking about the golden age of theorycrafting / textual analysis we’ll be in once he releases that SIXTH FUCKING BOOK
It’ll be like surviving on spinach soup for the last few years and then being presented with a full serving of lobster, turkey, steak, etc.
The community is spread so thin having to rehash the same analysis on just 5 books that it’ll be beautiful to see people going ham again once they’re given something else to chew on.

There’s definitely some extraterrestrial or eldritch nonsense at play in the world of asoiaf. I just don’t think it’s typical space craft sort of alien. It is inconceivably alien. Truly aberrant and questionable. Nothing reasonable would entertain the ‘magic’ of this world. Nothing human. Bar George.

>>24105312
What do they eat?

>>24105342
Each other.

>>24105296
Do you like history? Anthropology? Archeology? Esoteric mysteries of the forgotten past? The origins of religions, empires and myths? The way culture evolves through time from civilization to civilization? George deliberately made his world a playground to go crazy with all those things, and he would be happy to see all the autism. Us doing all the fan fiction and head canon ourselves is the whole point. Us trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together out of fragmented obscura was the goal

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Tyrion > Theon > Jaime > Cersei > Catelyn > Sansa > Davos > Jon Snow > Barristan > Arya > Daenerys > Samwell > Jon Connington > Bran > Arianne > Brienne > Asha > Aeron > Melisandre > Victarion > Areo Hotah > Arys Oakheart > Quentyn

>>24105356
>forgot Eddard
slot him between Arya and Daenerys

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bonetown

>>24105356
>Cersei
Cersei is SHITE. I would rather have Hotpie POVs as opposed to being inside her head. Although her having hot yuri sex with that big titted brown bitch was nice.

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Toad isle

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Nefer

>>24105383
Cersei has the funniest chapters in the series, they're wonderful

>>24105379
>we like bones, we do all bone things here, all sorts of bone things, because we like bones, and everything we do is based around bones, yep, bones, bones

>>24105384
What is this, Morrowind?

>>24105324
READERS ADDED CONTEXT

A radical diet change if done too drastically, can cause serious issues like hormonal imbalances, nutrient deficiencies, and potential digestive problems as the body adjusts to the nutrient intake. Similarly, the release of TWOW after so long will in all likelihood mindbreak many of its readers.

>>24105324
You really think so? Lmao, how naive. If Elden Ring is anything to go by the fans will be absolutely livid with their theories being destroyed left and right. The fans sat too long with their unhinged beliefs, and this is massively magnified with the asoiaf fanbase. The end result is an era of theorizing ended. You will miss it. Mark my words. You will miss it.

>>24105417
This. The nerds got too arrogant and high off their own farts. They ended up writing their own fan fiction, practically, and are now suffering for it.

>>24105417
Sadly true probably. Bracing for the inevitable: there was no empire of the dawn, all the ancient myths were fake filler and every important thing in history was actually just Valyrians

Who will claim Sansa's maidenhead?

>>24105434
Certainly not you!

>>24105417
You describe only what would happen if the book is bad and the fanfics better, otherwise anon is correct, you fags will devour Winds and start theorycrafting again.

>>24105440
It’s irrelevant if the book is bad or good, lmao. Nerds will nerd. They failed to see the Miquella x Radahn thing so they rage and claim it’s “bad writing” even though the clues were already in the base game.

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>>24105437
I'm more of a brunette guy

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IVE ABANDONED MY BOY

>>24105449
And in end you'll still read all two thousand pages of it and come here to post how you didn't think you'd feel bad for Cersei or ask what other anons think will happen to Tyrion after THAT happened. Business as usual.

>>24105354
Yes, I'm a curious guy and I like to think about some old stuff lost to time.
But it never gives me the same feelings as a good story and what's better, I can be curious and think about characters and the things they do in the same way people think about Rome(it's retarded, I'm just trying to give a frame of reference), but unlike Rome or any other empire, race, language, whatever - I actually have attachment to that character, because I like them or not, or just find them their situation compelling. It's better, it's just better

Young Griff is a really boring character, I hope he isn't the endgame antagonist Dany needs to beat for control of Westeros, that would be disappointing.

Who will win in the battle of the magics? Euron Greyjoy or Leyton Hightower?

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>>24104313
>So why did Margaery ask Pycelle for moon tea? Is she a slut?

She didn't, he's lying. Even if the Tyrells didn't know or suspect that Pycelle is a Lannister lackey, they'd have their maester who is a trusted member of THEIR household.

>>24105613
Magic. The magic wins.

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>>24104747
>Why would Renly agree to marry a female?

Renly was gay but was bisexual enough to fuck a chick in the dark, all the more so when he needed an heir.

>>24104747
>Olenna kills Joffrey at the purple wedding not to protect Margaery but to kick the can down the curb for another 6-10 years of celibate marriage for Margaery.

kek

The other anon is right. I think Renly fucked her once but either failed to finish or simply got unlucky and didn't get her pregnant before the shadow baby incident.

>>24105641
Renly was a FAAAAAG

>>24105632
>>24105641
Renly was a bottom, he never had sex with Margaery

>>24105568
Aegon is one of the good guys
>>24105613
What could Leyton even do
>>24105622
I had my doubts but Renly really was a faggot, imagine not wanting to bed THAT

>>24105688
"Aegon" is a imposter and likely the son of a Blackfyre bedslave

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>>24105341
>There’s definitely some extraterrestrial or eldritch nonsense at play in the world of asoiaf.

We know Planetos isn't Earth and we know humans, horses, turnips, etc. evolved on Earth, thus Planetos was colonized by Earthlings and that means ASOIAF is set in humanity's distant future, after we develop faster-than-light travel technology.

The Valyrians are genetically enhanced superhumans, kinda like Star Trek's Khan Noonien Singh and they enslaved normal humans and took them to Planetos but at some point after colonizing the planet, there was a civil war among the Valyrians so bad that it devastated the planet (possibly causing the weird seasons) and knocking humanity back into a stone age, where everybody forgot they were originally from Earth.

The remaining Valyrians (with whatever technology they still had) survived on the Valyrian Peninsula and eventually used genetic technology to create dragons and tried to reconquer Planetos but were defeated by the Faceless Men, who stole some tech from them and developed magical "nukes" (that they first tested on Hardhome).

Also, the Red Comet is a hollowed out asteroid that was the Valyrian's spaceship and is now on a long period orbit around the Planetos system while the "falling star" was an escape pod with some tech, that House Dayne (themselves rebel Valyrians) used to create the magical/tech sword Dawn.

>>24105700
Did you just ignore the
> I just don’t think it’s typical space craft sort of alien. It is inconceivably alien.
part?

>>24105695
...and he's still one of the good ones? In fact ALL of the possible Targaryen are. Him, Jon and Edric are all massive moralfags, behind only the breaker of chains herself

>>24105704

Yes.

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>>24105695
>"Aegon" is a imposter and likely the son of a Blackfyre bedslave

fAegon is the son of Illyrio Mopatis and Serra, sister to Varys, who are descendants of Blackfyres.

>>24105726
>Young Griff
>good
he's a gloryhound knight of summer

Tyrion and Daenerys should have sex

>>24105753
And he could very well be but JonCon, Varys and the Golden Company aren't. The Reconquista is not only imminent but failproof.
Please don't come here crying when he ends up winning, this is a Blackfyre thread.

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>>24105792
>when he ends up winning

But he won't win. It'll appear like fAegon is winning, as the nobility flock to him and he captures Kingslanding and crowns himself king but then Daenerys arrives and while she'll marry fAegon, (reluctantly) he'll be a dick to her and demand a dragon and she'll flip out and go full-Hitler mode, nuking Kingslanding with dragon fire (which sets off the hidden wildfire).

>>24105809
Aegon won't take King's Landing, the wildfire thing will be Cersei like in the HBO series

>>24105809
I really hope i'm off the mark on this one but the whole "muh queen" from the show will probably be his stick in books, meaning he will end up catering to Dany's wishes if not straight up defering to her at times. But i would love to be wrong and actually he was Daario this whole time and is a lot more shrewd than he appears lol
And this anon >>24105842 is right, King's Landing burns through Cersei before Aegon takes it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTErSut0LAk&t=114s
bump

Daenerys is BBC coded

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>His thoughts turned to Tysha, who had so briefly been his lady wife. It was Jaime, he thought, despairing. He was my own blood, my big strong brother. When I was small he brought me toys, barrel hoops and blocks and a carved wooden lion. He gave me my first pony and taught me how to ride him. When he said that he had bought you for me, I never doubted him. Why would I? He was Jaime, and you were just some girl who’d played a part. I had feared it from the start, from the moment you first smiled at me and let me touch your hand. My own father could not love me. Why would you if not for gold?

I met George once. I asked him what he meant by those wet black stone blocks. And he said he thought it would be interesting if there was a time when the dragons ruled over humans and not the other way around. What did he mean by this?

>>24105842
>>24105809
fAegon will take Kingslanding withouth much casualties, Cersei will try to marry him, Daenerys will flip out hearing that yet another pretender took her kingdom, Tyrion will nudge her to take matters in her hands, she'll gather her army and take Kingslanding with massive casualties, some of wich are caused by her dragons.

She takes the Iron Throne, nobody likes her

If it ever happens that her dragons are no more, every kingdom will secede

I don't understand why everybody wants faegon to be the endgame villain, Cersei and Stannis are much more thematically interesting and dangerous threats to Daenerys.

>>24106061
>tyrion doing a little trolling after discovering his first wife really did love him
what did george mean by this

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>>24105658
>Renly was a bottom, he never had sex with Margaery
Margeary had sex with him. He must have dried her up.

>>24106071
The Others are the endgame villain.

>>24106087
Tyrion's villain arc lasted five minutes. Only way he's going evil again is if his midge daughterfu gets popped.

>>24106071
he's not a villain, he's a tool. He'll of course have his little arc about how you can't exactly raise a perfect ruler, but his purpose is to be Dany's Daemon Blackfyre or Stannis' "Peach".

No matter how good she's at sitting her ass on a throne - people will hate her guts, this will be a total 180 with small folk for her, wich is interesting, I'd would like to read her chapters if they were about that

>>24106120
Yeah Martin isn't that much of a cynic, Tyrion was already in a pretty dark state in Dance, i doubt he goes full villain

>>24106061
But Tyrion likes rAegon, he just wants to fuck Cersei up. rAegon has no reason to marry her beyond making the Westerlands fold. Varys would never let his project marry the most batshit scheming bitchnin the seven kingdoms.

>>24106071
>>24106171
People are overly prone to thinking the show ending is somehow George's canon because he gave some notes to D&D that they were free to ignore. Completely ignoring his writing process, brushing things the show chose not to adapt away as red herrings, which are retarded enough. But somehow these same geniuses forget the bells thing, which is the real most obvious thing taken from the books, just repurposed for a character it does not suit. The rAegon/JonCon plotline is definitely going to be important, you people are just contrarians. You might as well insist that Arya will kill the 'Night King'. I bet you would too, if D&D weren't on record admitting to coming up with it.
>CAPTCHA: DXGAY

I don't like Dunk and Egg

>>24106465
rAegon? The rape variant?

>>24106484
I like Dunk and Egg, but the series desperately needs other POVs besides Dunk.

>Preston still working on the Asha fan-fic chapter, says it’s close
>Preston also working on another video that dissects George’s possible roadblocks in writing Winds
We’re so back

>>24106016
Why does Tyrion cope that “wah wah it was true love, she was the only one that liked me for my personality and my appearance”.
When in reality, there’s a high likelihood that, while Tysha appreciated Tyrion’s wit and vivaciousness, him being a wealthy Lannister made him a hell of a catch for her.

What difference is there is there between “she pretended to like me because my brother gave her some money” vs. “she liked me in part because I was a wealthy Lannister who could give her a good life”. I’m not even blaming Tysha in the slightest. She was a common peasant girl - obviously she’d be drawn to Tyrion, especially since he seemed lovestruck by her and wasn’t just going to discard her as a mistress.

>>24106016
This might be the saddest bit in the entire series so far
>>24106470
Indeed, anyone advocating for Dany going crazy just sounds like they haven't read the books. At least with King Bran there's some feasibility, even if it is the worst possible ending.
You fags need to get better theories.

>>24106673
The Dany = Sauron theory is probably one of the oldest things in the fandom though, much older than the show even.
She doesn’t even need to go mad, just get massive whiplash from people having a negative reaction to her and wanting her gone.

>>24106094
Cursed image dude

Were the green seers of the past more powerful than Bran? They should have been, no? They were more common and had more to look to?

So how did these tree people lose to a bunch of silly cavemen?

>>24104808
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies

>>24106683
You're confusing whiplash with a full on psychotic breakdown lol and even that wouldn't suffice to justify such a bizarre 180 six books into the story

>>24106673
>Indeed, anyone advocating for Dany going crazy just sounds like they haven't read the books.
"Crazy" isn't the right word but it's increasingly forshadowed Daenerys and her dragons will bring death and destruction to Westeros and won't be viewed positively.

>>24107053
Yeah, but her turning KL to ash won't happen. The bells thing was clearly taken from JonCon's future arc.
She'll get miffed about Aegon taking her place as the restored Targeryen monarch, but how would going ape shit help? Let alone be justifiable under her worldview.

Will be funny if Ser Robert bashes in Young Griff's head, just like he did to the real Aegon

>>24107084
If anything KL is getting destroyed by Cersei's caches of wildfire and then she's going to say that Dany's dragons did it.

>>24107053
>forshadowed
It wasn't but your welcomed to prove me wrong with a few excerpts from the books
>death and destruction
...to a country in civil war?
>dragons won't be viewed positively
unless you wanna talk Valyria, Westeros is LITERALLY the only in the world were they would be viewed positively

>>24107129
>It wasn't but your welcomed to prove me wrong with a few excerpts from the books
It's what her arc in ADWD is about. She gives up on trying to bring peace and embraces her desire to be a conqueror. In future books Daenerys will be less willing to compromise with others and simply use her dragons to get what she wants. GRRM has compared using dragons as an allegory to nuclear warfare. If you don't see the direction her story is going in, that's on you.

>>24106985
Magic is arbitrarily powerful. Magic is not practically powerful.

>>24106061

I reckon Varys would be pretty pissed If Aegon wound up falling for Cersei instead and got her Rhaegar like she always wanted in the end but it would be a funny and interesting result.

My own crackpot is that the Frays are going to betray the Boltons once Ramsey is defeated in battle and Roose is desperately clinging onto power. They are waiting for Walda's kid to be born before their next move.

>>24107251

Should've added they'll gain temporary control of the north but it will only be for a short while before being crushed by a coalition of northern houses and Stannis

>>24107251
>>24107257
none of this will happen

>>24107203
>but George said
Yeah and George also said that Stannis is going to burn shireen and yet this board denies it up and down.

George likes to say a lot of shit.

>>24107251
Why would the Freys think they could possibly hold the North without their only Northern ally? They have at most 2k men north of the Neck and everyone there hates their guts.

>>24107264
It's why the best part of TWOW will be the headcannon meltdowns

>It was then that pasty, pudgy Teora raised her eyes from the creamcakes on her plate. “It is dragons.”

>“Dragons?” said her mother. “Teora, don’t be mad.”

>“I’m not. They’re coming.”

>“How could you possibly know that?” her sister asked, with a note of scorn in her voice. “One of your little dreams?”

>Teora gave a tiny nod, chin trembling. “They were dancing. In my dream. And everywhere the dragons danced the people died.” - TWOW Arianne I

>"Sit with me, child." Cressen beckoned her closer. "This is early to come calling, scarce past dawn. You should be snug in your bed."

>"I had bad dreams," Shireen told him. "About the dragons. They were coming to eat me." - ACOK Prologue

>>24107203
Explain to me how does Dany going back to her roots and using her dragons the way the Seven intended, translates to her going insane over how people will see her.
I'll wait.

>>24107264
>Stannis is going to burn shireen and yet this board denies it up and down.
Most people have gotten over it and don’t deny it. They just want it to be less dumb and contrived than in the show, where Stannis just goes “gee I’m a little cold, I should burn my daughter”.
There’s high potential for tragedy kino if Stannis only does so because he believes he needs to be step up as Azor Ahai, only to realize he’s been used and lied to by Melisandre when nothing happens.

>>24107282
>>24107293
Signs of them being touched / molested manifesting in dreams. We know who touched Shireen (Pathface) but who touched Teora? Could it be that Arianne is really that debauched?

>>24107264
>moves the goalpost after being proven wrong
many such cases

>>24102099
hello

>>24107053
>bring death and destruction to Westeros
Pretty sure the Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons and Greyjoys have already done that with the war of the five kings lol.

>>24107325
I wasn’t that anon you tit.

>>24107351
Indeed. Spreading death and destruction across Westeros is the prerogative of the Westerosi nobility, not some upstart wannabe Dothraki slut.

>>24107302
I already said I don't think Daenerys will go crazy, but Westeros might see her differently considering her legacy as Aerys' daughter and her dragons cooking people alive

>Dany knew her face was flushed, but in the darkness Irri surely could not tell. Wordless, the handmaid put a hand on her breast, then bent to take a nipple in her mouth. Her other hand drifted down across the soft curve of belly, through the mound of fine silvery-gold hair, and went to work between Dany's thighs. It was no more than a few moments until her legs twisted and her breasts heaved and her whole body shuddered. She screamed then. Or perhaps that was Drogon. Irri never said a thing, only curled back up and went back to sleep the instant the thing was done. The next day, it all seemed a dream.
What did George Raymond Richard Martin mean by this?

>>24107387
That the rich and powerful don't even realize that they are sexually abusing their underlings.

>>24107392
Irri intiated it thoughever

>>24107402
I'm sure that Monica Lewinsky initiated sometimes as well.

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>>24107387
>What did George Raymond Richard Martin mean by this?

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>>24106061
>Cersei will try to marry him,

lol, no. Cersei is old and busted while fAegon is like 16/17 years old and won't want an old hag, especially not one who is a member of the family that killed "his" family.

It'll look like he will marry Arianne Martell but when Daenerys arrives, he'll change his mind, (under the influence of Varys and Jon Connington) thinking he can brow-beat her into handing over a dragon.

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>>24106484
>I don't like Dunk and Egg

Really? IMO it's GRRM's best work, though it's a shame HBO will also fuck that up.

>what if we had a region that was like Spain, where the people eat spicy food and the women are brown sluts
Why does GRRM keep wasting so many pages on the the Martells, they're really not an interesting family and are just muh Elia

We still haven't got a Tyrell POV, I think the fat man hates the Reach

>>24106992

"Sad Puppies activists accused the Hugo Awards "of giving awards on the basis of political correctness and favoring authors and artists who aren't straight, white and male"."

That part is true.

>>24107454
People that are denying this are just being purposefully dishonest especially since award shows like the Oscars have openly shown that they factor in race and gender in their decisions.

>>24107454
>>24107463
GRRM himself has completely shut up about award shows, he knows he was wrong about it

>>24107450
>moorish fantasy spain
>no fantasy yakub

>>24104838
What do you have against /tv/?

>>24107513
they're fags

>>24107517
But why? I browse /tv/ as well and there some good threads over there and I love films.

>>24107368
>but Westeros might see her differently
How? The country venere and fears the dragons in equal measure, everyone knows how the nation was founded
>b-but Aerys
Was hardly the worst of Targ
Robert the only one who truly cared is dead

You seem to think someone in Westeros is fighting dragons lmao

>>24107541
Why are your posts so insufferably stupid?

>>24107545
I'm not the one spouting nonsense

>>24107529
you sound like a fag

>>24107529
fag

>>24107574
>I'm not the one spouting nonsense
Yes, you are. You're doing that thing when you've lost the argument and are trying to save face by acting facetious and flippant, your syntax is borderline unreadable btw

>>24107577
You act like a tranny.
>>24107584
Tranny

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>>24107584
I’m not a fag. I’m a /tv/ immigrant and /tg/ refugee.

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>>24107604
go back

>>24107608
No, I won’t. You fucking bigot.

>>24107310
What about Jojen?

>>24107597
Careful with that projection, crazy Dany was a dumb theory 10 years ago and you provide zero arguments for it. Maybe trying reading the books next time.

You should all take meds unironically

>>24107387
The surrounding text blatantly explains it. Danny is still grieving for Drogo and had been suppressing her sexual urges because of it. Jorah had brought the grief and lust back to the surface after stealing a kiss from her. iirc this is the first time she's been horny in months, her handmaid helped her out because that's one of the jobs she was trained for. I would say this is a pretty decent depiction of regaining sexual urges after a traumatic event. Danny's sexuality is extremely important to her story, people's lives actually depend on her wanting to fuck, as is typically the case for monarchs and their courts and countries.

>>24107439
he's a pedo

>>24107644
I don't think that block of texts is real. Doesn't read like how George writes, and doesn't match up to what he's said about Emilia Clark and Daeneyrs through the years.

>>24107636
why didn't she fuck Jorah, I don't get it

>>24107661
he's not nearly as handsome as portrayed in the show

>>24107679
Yeah but she's turned on by him on some level

>>24107624
ss with meera

>>24107629
>crazy Dany was a dumb theory 10 years ago
You know, what is crazy is how this is the third time you've tried to strawman me with that argument when I've said more than once I don't think Daenerys will go crazy.

Why do you keep doing it? Are you that desperate to save face?

>>24105356
Jaime > Tyrion > Jon Snow > Theon > Sansa > Eddard > Davos > Cersei > Catelyn > Areo Hotah > Daenerys > Bran > Arya > Jon Connington > Arianne > Victarion > Aeron > Barristan > Asha > Samwell > Brienne > Arys Oakheart > Quentyn > Melisandre


>>24106531
dude, he was like 15 at the time and she was his first flame
there's no cope, he genuinely believes she loved him just for his character

>>24107699
>Area Hotah that high
He only has two chapters so far and they're bad. Nothing happens except some infodumps about the Martells wanting muh vengeance

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>>24107680
She says why on the same page lol.
Dude just took the kiss out of no where, she had no idea he was attracted to her. Even the most desperate virgin guys will take issue with a woman suddenly kissing them without even implied consent. Especially if they're so mentally fucked that sex is not even physically or mentally registering for them. Imagine if your mom died and the not so hot neighbor girl thought it would be a great time to try to blow you in the kitchen after she came over to borrow a cup of sugar or some shit.
Again he never got consent to do it, Jorah is basically a peasant to her (yes we know he's technically a lord), he's shooting way above his station going for a Targaryen queen with the only three dragons in existence, she's practically a god.
She's not attracted to him at all. She even tries to force the thought of being with him but it's a hard no. Jorah makes her pussy dry up like sand paper.

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>>24107716
>Even the most desperate virgin guys will take issue with a woman suddenly kissing them

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>>24107716
>Even the most desperate virgin guys will take issue with a woman suddenly kissing them without even implied consent.
Don't look up what Gilly does to Samwell IV A Feast for Crows...

>>24107684
How can i strawman you when you never elaborated on what you meant? Are you really this obtuse? Look i know you never had anything, just concede you made a passing comment based on nothing more than feelings and lets call it.

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>>24107716
>she's practically a god.

>>24107756
Sam is attracted to Gilly. If I remember right he fantasizes and talks about her in every one of his chapters. He's been wanting to fuck her since they showed up at Craster's Keep.

>>24107760
>How can i strawman you when you never elaborated on what you meant? Are you really this obtuse? Look i know you never had anything
Refer to >>24107053 >>24107203 >>24107282
>>24107293 >>24107368
You don't argue honestly, you keep lying and misrepresenting what I said to save face

>ust concede you made a passing comment based on nothing more than feelings and lets call it.
I won't, don't lie and bullshit people and try to weasel away when they call you out on it. Shut the fuck up next time.

>>24107783
yeah and Dany is attracted to Jorah and thinks about him all the time, so?

>>24107810
Stop posting Jorah, she's not attracted to you.

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>>24107753
>GURM bringing in Shae of all people instead of paying for whores with his HBO money
>GURM taking the Hound / Jaime on a roadtrip

>>24107360
Pretty sure the Targaryens are Westerosi nobility too.

>>24107833
she CANONICALLY thinks about him and is excited by his kiss

Sam found himself kissing her back. I said the words, he thought, but her hands were tugging at his blacks, pulling at the laces of his breeches. He broke off the kiss long enough to say, "We can't," but Gilly said, "We can," and covered his mouth with her own again. The Cinnamon Wind was spinning all around them and he could taste the rum on Gilly's tongue and the next thing her breasts were bare and he was touching them. I said the words, Sam thought again, but one of her nipples found its way between his lips. It was pink and hard and when he sucked on it her milk filled his mouth, mingling with the taste of rum, and he had never tasted anything so fine and sweet and good. If I do this I am no better than Dareon, Sam thought, but it felt too good to stop. And suddenly his cock was out, jutting upward from his breeches like a fat pink mast. It looked so silly standing there that he might have laughed, but Gilly pushed him back onto her pallet, hiked her skirts up around her thighs, and lowered herself onto him with a little whimpery sound. That was even better than her nipples. She's so wet, he thought, gasping. I never knew a woman could get so wet down there. "I am your wife now," she whispered, sliding up and down on him. And Sam groaned and thought, No, no, you can't be, I said the words, I said the words, but the only word he said was, "Yes."

>>24107851
She doesn't want your hairy monkey paws and crusty lips anywhere near her body, Jorah!

>>24107856
Absolute cinema (literature)

>>24107856
>fat pink mast
Always gets me

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>>24107794
So you believe Daenerys is gonna cross the entirety of Essos having burned Volantis and god knows what else, killing however many people along the way only to find herself in Westeros, where she is going to do the same? Presumably because someone, in Westeros of all places, is either not bending the knee or outright trying to fight the flying lizards? And that of course will somehow distress this same Daenerys.
Your reasoning for this being a dream Shireen had and an unreleased chapter of Winds? Did i get everything right?

That sounds like canon to me, i fucking kneel

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>>24107850
This is true, my fellow traveler.