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Previous Thread: >>22722112

How to get into KR and where to start?
https://kamenriderguided.weebly.com

>List of subbed series
https://tokusubs.wikia.com/wiki/Tokusubs_Wiki

>Direct Download Links
https://pastebin.com/uynBpq35
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iAaxZsRy5ZBUExP_kg21PwFHzK9l8UljCkK2u6hNIfU
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19wl37LsDD4J_yqR7usLNkXA4hGAXngnlI3HgSgMN2Kk
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3nlhtioorLWE8g5HJSKCAUoTGicFKeLh5d4JXZmAKs

>/krg/ archives
https://desuarchive.org/m/search/subject/krg/

>RideChemy Card Database
https://airtable.com/shrdjNECTvthHGcHo

>DO NOT MAKE A NEW THREAD UNTIL PAGE 8
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This is the sixth Reiwa series' protagonist, Kamen Rider Gavv. Ask this Rider any questions.
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>>22726039
What is your sub-theme, if Gummy is your main one?
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>>22726042
Gavv the Creature. It’s under his chest and its eyes are all over his body (as screw heads).
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>>22726051
Damn bro give the guy some space
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>>22726046
>>22726051
His side profile silhouette is atrocious.
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>>22726060
>shieats&gotshartt
Fuck off
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>>22726060
>Geats in front of Gotchard
Lmao
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>>22726060
>Ultra and Sentai have past hero on top and current hero on bottom
>Rider is reversed
Why
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>>22726026
But the Tycoon ID Core was.
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I can't unsee Gavv has one foot with black dot.
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>>22726076
>>22725915
>Anon STILL seething about the Core he easily could have gotten with no problems or hoop jumping
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>>22726072
who's this semen demon?
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>>22726087
Amane Shindo, the actress who played Faiz 20th's Smart Lady.
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Started with Wizard a few months ago and dropped it at episode 25 because it sucked shit and bored me to death.
Watched Heisei in order instead, and now that I've made it back and finished Wizard, it was actually kino. Don't know if Decade lowered my standards or I dropped it right before it got interesting, but my only autistic gripe with the second half is that Kuuga used the wrong form in the finale.
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>>22726034
Does Gotchard's summer movie take place before the series finale? Or they still haven't cleared up that detail?
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Zero-One's penultimate episode and the other 44th episodes of Reiwa.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui63RKyHHc0
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>>22726105
>sAbORrE mOgS$
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>>22726105
That Revice episode made it clear Kagerou was so much better
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>>22726107
If wonder when they were designing Grasshopper Malgam, they originally envisioned it as Houtaro?
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>>22726102
Wizard definitely improves once Beast arrives.
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>>22726060
>>22726072
wait she's in China?
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>>22726060
top: kino
bottom: shit
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>>22726141
So Gotchard's also doing some kind of race event like Boonboomger also is
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>>22726142
Based ZeroCHAD
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>>22726142
not even japanese will agree with your shit taste
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https://x.com/ayane_kinoshita/status/1812041359852995024
KINOSHITA IS BACK
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>>22726193
That's not the Kinoshita I wanted... you got my hopes up for nothing. Assh*le.
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>>22726105
>Pretty good
>Kino
>Decent
>Kino
>Total slop
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>>22726210
>sabore
>kino
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>>22726214
Absolute ludo.
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>>22726105
Shit
Kino
Ok
Megashit
Didn't even watch

>>22726210
>Neon
>Kino
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>>22726214
Gotchard with Lachesis > Saber > Gotchard without Lachesis
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>still replying to himself
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>>22726163
Bitches love Zero
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>>22726227
Zero is equal to W/OOO in rider, of course they love him
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>>22726227
Zero is like the Sonic the Hedgehog of Ultramen
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>>22726140
Well yeah, morfonica is perfoming there too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beZ_xhdpEz0
New redol video.
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>>22726215
Nope, still bad.
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>>22726268
Of course they'd do a deer brainrot meme redo lol
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Kabuto really is about cooking and and imposter monsters from space are just extra huh?
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>>22726274
Tendou really loves his cooking
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She's such a little bitch if you think about it. Her motivation for joining the heroes is that she's afraid of her dad. She has a mental breakdown to Minato because of it and begs Atropos for her life even as she knows it won't help. She has to tug at Spanner's sleeve for safety after Clotho nearly kills her. Like her defining character trait is being scared. At this point I bet even Renge could wreck her if she ever decides to turn evil again.
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>>22726276
I'm at episode 29 and we are dealing with underground dark chefs. I'm wouldn't be surprised if the show ends with Tendou just feeding the final boss some damn good food and the credits roll.
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>>22726283
Dark Kitchen? A legendary set of episodes. Also written by Inoue.
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>>22726277
She's hot who cares
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>>22726268
>Karasuma was Goma in Kingohger
CHWAAAAAAAA
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>>22726277
>She's a horrible person who joined the hero side for the wrong reasons.
We know... And that's kinda hot, as the other anon said. What a crazy bitch.
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https://litter.catbox.moe/gtcpjw.mp3
Blaze Up
Rate Lachesis's husband insert
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>>22726298
It's about as anison J-rock as I expected
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>>22726288
wow you can almost see her vagina bones
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>>22726298
why am i reminded of nii-san
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I NEED GEEVS DEETS
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>>22726355
We probably have as much Gavv info that we're gonna get until the conference at this rate.
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>>22726358
>conference
When?
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>>22726359
Sometime in August probably
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>>22726371
ugly ass driver, just like the seiken
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>>22726379
It goes on your front not your ass
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when is the gavv presser supposed to air?
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>>22726379
Careful, you'll summon the second reiwa rider shills.
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>>22726383
Either end of July or early August
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gochizou cute

i wonder how that anon that was weridly pissed off at how underutilized the canroids were in OOO would feel about Gavv
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>>22726382
found the retard
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which kamen rider season is the most fun to watch in a group?
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>>22726392
That anon is dead, replaced by bunch of newfrens
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>>22726400
sAbOERee
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>>22726432
I really wanted to know that anon's story. He was so gutted that those damn canroids didn't do much of anything
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>>22726400
I watched Geats with my frat brothers and we all had a really good time, tried to watch Saber with them too but nobody really liked it so unfortunately the rider binges stopped there. Still wish I picked a different show to show them after Geats but what can you do, in retrospect Gaim would’ve been a better pick
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>>22726392
what the fuck WAS the deal with early 2nd phase heisei with dumb robot animal companions. the foodroids in fourze were really stupid
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>>22726464
It was a bit of an experimental time for rider merchandise since W was the start of a new premiere time for Rider since they didn't want Sentai and Rider's sales to cannibalize each other. They wanted to see if kids wanted to collect that shit and I guess they didn't because it didn't stick around.
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https://twitter.com/Gotcha_toei/status/1812034732353552474
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>>22726457
I know that spending quality time with other may seem like a completely fictitious concept to you anon, but some of us have actual social skills
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>>22726464
The memory gadgets at least thematically tied in to the detective theme by providing Shotaro tools to investigate while doubling as support, Shotaro made use of these gadgets a lot too. Candroids even were a fun little touch of using the medals as coins to buy them from the Ride Vendor. Wizard made kinda sense too to have familiars, but for the must part not necessary. But really everything after OOO was kinda forced and a lot of it was pointless as they hardly used them after, who even remembers Zi-O's stupid Suika Arms thing?
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>>22726086
The Japs can get the AlchemisDriver Unit with no problems too, it's just you who keeps crying that it's P-Bandai.
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I think Kamen Rider Geats might be the one season that has one of the most dividend opinions ever. I have seen people rate it a 9-10/10 and then on the other side, I have seen people be a lot more critical of it. Of course, it is all down to personal opinion and taste, but what is it about Geats that gives off this love-it-or-hate-it vibe in the fandom?
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>>22726076
>>22726086
and even then there’s other ways you can get it.
Bujin Sword bundle
2 different Sound ID core sets
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>>22726533
STFU shieatsfag!!
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>>22726533
One of the biggest sticking points is Keiwa, particularly how he's handled post-Q1 and the very sloppy heel arc he has in the final stretch of the shw
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The best Kamen Rider belts are the simple basic ones.

Demons Driver
Lost Driver
Desire Driver
Mach Driver
Energy Driver
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>>22726535
>2 different Sound ID core sets
Those are P-Bandai.

>Bujin Sword bundle
This is a China exclusive, right? Don't know if it's retail or P-Bandai.
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>>22726541
and you know what isn’t P-Bandai?
The Ninja Buckle
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>>22726545
Which only gives you the possibility to recreate Geats Ninja Form because it doesn't come with the Tycoon ID Core, unlike all of the other base form Buckles that come with the Core of their associated Rider.
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Revice bros reunited
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>>22726538
I saw some comparing him to Suzaku from Code Geass lately. I do wish his character went in a different direction.
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>>22726540
>Demons Driver
>Simple

Anon what are you smoking, it was literally the first time bandai tried shoving pbandai LED belts down our throats, not to mention that the stamps required for the genomixes are pbandai as well.
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>>22726549
and? It’s his base form and it’s retail.
What’s your point anon
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>>22726553
>I saw some comparing him to Suzaku from Code Geass lately.
First time I'm actually seeing this comparison.
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>>22726554
Simple to transform you bumfucking retard
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>>22726555
Anon are you retarded? Imagine if the banana lockseed didn't come packaged with Baron's faceplate, there would be no way to recreate an accurate version of his driver in the dx line.

How dare people want bandai to not be so jewish right
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>>22726555
Majade's Chemy Cards are retail too.
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>>22726558
>Stamp the top of the driver
>Stamp the screen

It has the literal same steps as the fucking revice driver, when I think of simple to transform, shit like the one step transformations of first phase heisei is what comes to mind, kuuga and ryuki being prime examples.
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>>22726570
All of the cards are retail, including Valvard’s and Dread’s.
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>>22726538
I liked the heel turn personally
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>>22726574
> kuuga
Gay hand movements
> ryuki
Boring design
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>>22726371
Although the upper jaw is allegedly removable, what I think will actually happen with the upgrade items, is that you'll simply leave the upper jaw open, and the upgrade item will include it's own upper jaw that is actuated by the little pegs connected to the rotating handle.
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>>22726577
and? It’s her base form and it’s retail.
What’s your point anon
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>>22726566
because baron’s faceplate comes with a unique sound.
You can literally buy custom Id cores for less than
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>>22726588
It means she’s not special.
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>>22726588
Why did copy my post if you disagreed with me?
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>>22726533
I’ve seen most people say it’s a top tier show, it’s only /krg/ that seems to hate it
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>>22726596
To make fun of you.
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>>22726590
All I'm saying is that it's extremely scummy for bandai to leave out the defining item of the literal secondary to a campaign, when arguably less important characters like nago and buffa have their cores included.
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>>22726298
2nd best character song in reiwa. Rewrite the story still #1.
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>>22726588
Unlike Tycoon. Majade transforms with a different driver
>>22726598
Oh you’re just a shitposter
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>>22726606
The Alchemist Driver and Valvard Driver are both just GotchaDrivers with extra bits slapped onto the front.
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>>22726613
Not in-show and it also has completely different sounds from the regular Gotchadriver
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>>22726597
The Chinks rate it 7/10 on Bilibili and there's many who have harsh criticisms towards it. More hardcore Rider fan circles in Japan like 2chan's Toku board don't really praise it either and have many of the criticisms we do.

Basically, Geats is praised by normies but not by hardcore fans.
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>>22726606
>Oh you’re just a shitposter
Why? Just because I indirectly called you a retard? Get a grip.

>>22726623
>Not in-show
We are talking about the toys.
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>>22726298
Valvarad GT fucking when?
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>>22726585
way to out yourself, reiwanewfaggot
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>>22726634
Stop Moving the goalpost
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>>22726627
You don't know japanese though
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>>22726634
We’re having a discussion and you’re acting like a big ass baby for no reason. Quit being a faggot and leave
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>>22726533
>>22726533
>but what is it about Geats that gives off this love-it-or-hate-it vibe in the fandom?
It all comes down to whether you prefer style over substance or vice versa. Your enjoyment of things such as pic related will heavily depend on that.
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>>22726634
> I indirectly called you a retard
If you copy a retard’s argument that also makes you a retard for using it anon
>>22726676
Kamen Rider in general is style over substance
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>>22726673
>We’re having a discussion
A very stupid one.

>you’re acting like a big ass baby for no reason. Quit being a faggot and leave
Go cry me a river, fragile fag.
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>>22726676
The problem with Keiwa is they just took him too far. Nothing wrong with him starting to get a bit of edge and becoming more ruthless. But they turned him into a complete edgelord that talked with a raspy voice without even a smidge of his original character left. It was impossible to take him seriously. Then he just got cured and went back to normal like it never even happened.

Though now that I've said all of this I'm trying to think of Hero turned Villain arcs done well in Rider and I'm struggling to think of any. I remember at the time thinking the stuff with Brave in Ex-Aid wasn't great but compared to Keiwa they at least showed how Hiiro was struggling with what he had to do.
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>>22726687
Oh yeah I forgot about Espada. That was actually a pretty good one and felt like it actually had some substance to it. But I'm really struggling to think of any others.
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>>22726298
Alisa should sing it at some point.
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>>22726687
>even a smidge of his original character left.
Him making a wish of bringing back all the people that died during a DGP is his original character.
The show just presented in a really goofy way
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>>22726680
>If you copy a retard’s argument that also makes you a retard for using it anon
I copied it to highlight his own contradictory arguments, retard.
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>>22726698
suuure
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>>22726680
>Kamen Rider in general is style over substance
The shows aren't pure action alone, there's a story and that story needs to have some substance in order to captivate the audience. Shows like Kuuga and OOO wouldn't be fan favorites if they didn't have good writing.
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>substance over style? hahaha fuck off gaijin
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>>22726705
I'm sorry your brain is too smooth to understand the concept of mocking.
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>>22726722
>He's still going
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>>22726717
Reminder that japanese will never be the main target audience!!!??!!!???!!!!!
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>>22726722
takes one to know one lmao
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>>22726715
teeeechnically speaking good writing doesn't mean substance, it just means it resonates well
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>>22726666
That's exactly what you're doing.
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>>22726371
I was thinking that I hate how they're reusing belt gimmicks already but Build was like 6 years ago or something?
Didn't like it when Desire driver has the revolve gimmick either
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>>22726761
Stop responding you shitposting ape
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>>22726764
So disappointed that the revolve gimmick was only utilized by mark IX, I just wish other buckles did something too.
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>>22726769
Nice projection, nigger. But devolving into senseless shitposting won't make you win this argument.
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>>22726781
>>22726783
I win
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SEAniggers are qawake huh..
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Fuckin typo
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>>22726800
>>22726795
>so angry that he can't even spell properly
I won
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kuroto the single most successful rider character in the last 10 years, no cap
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>>22726060
Is Gotchard doing that bad?
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>>22726806
>>22726803
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>>22726813
>>22726806
pathetic
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>I like him because.... HE SMILED AT ME!
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>22726809
So you finally decided to switch gimmicks since the sabore/shieats/gotshart schtick wasn't landing you many (You)s, huh?
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>>22726818
That's not me
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Gotchard getting a V-Cinema trilogy is crazy
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>22726821
Suuuuure
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>>22726687
It’s that, and the fact the character changed virtually nothing once the arc was over
>before: kind-hearted peace loving hero who can be silly, but has his heart on the right place
>during the arc: emo edgelord doomer who does whatever villains tell him
>after: kind-hearted peace loving hero who can be silly, but has his heart on the right place
Same with Daiji, there’s no point in doing these if the characters stay the same. Brave in Ex-Aid wasn’t great, but the character did fundamentally change after it was over. The way he treated others (especially Snipe) changed because of that arc. That’s what is missing now, the characters must stay the same now from beginning to end because….marketability I guess? Or maybe because it’s easier to write them in multiple movies, specials and what not?
These arcs only work if there’s an actual permanent and noticeable change. Otherwise, don’t do it.
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>>22726813
We get it, you're pissing your pants because someone found you out. Well, let's wait and see if the jannies bother to delete all your trash today.
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>>22726826
So you finally decided to switch gimmicks since the retard schtick wasn't landing you many (You)s, huh?
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>>22726824
Its sales seem to be pretty good even if the show itself doesn't seem to be all that popular.
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>22726833
takes one to know one lmao
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>>22726687
>I'm trying to think of Hero turned Villain arcs done well in Rider and I'm struggling to think of any
Micchy had a great corruption arc.
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>>22726836
okay
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>>22726317
she's 23 retard
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>>22726833
Gachafags couldn't resist bandai's cardboard slop, though even I have to admit some of the art is god tier
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>>22726830
That's not me either.
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>>22726358
is there any chance we get some new info tomorrow?
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>>22726841
Still young enough for (you), rinnepedo
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>>22726809
who?
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>>22726809
He's gonna bang his dead mom
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>>22726853
Always remember, the legal age of consent on Earth is 50.
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>>22726858
that means my only wife is beroba :)
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>>22726809
Is there any situations besides this one, where the actors improvised so much their role were changed significantly?
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>>22726837
By Japanese standards, yes. But by western standards it's very forced and one-dimensional. Like a mandated type of character
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>>22726809
Post pic where he gon butt naked
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>>22726866
are these western faggots in the room with us right now?
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>>22726687
>>22726676
The problem with Keiwa's heelturn is really that its a 180. If there had been buildup, such as him arguing with Ace and butting heads with him more and more as the show went on, cut to his sister dying and Ace being like "oh well, we can just wish her back lmao if I feel like it since I will obviously win this round of the DGP".
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>>22726764
Oh please, nobody bitched about the Amazons Driver and the Boost buckle both having throttles, Blay Buckle and th Ghost Driver both having handles, or the Gamer Driver and the BeyonDriver bother having levers. Why pretend this is a problem now?
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>>22726874
????
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>>22726873
There's also the fact that Keiwa's beef with Ace about his mother is so beyond the pale that it's idiotic. He directly heard from like one or two sources that not only did Ace not know about her being the cause of all that's been going on, but he knows Ace wants to help her and stop this mess. Instead Keiwa just ignores all that and starts shouting at him for virtually no reason and getting upset for something he had no control over.
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>>22726866
I'm talking about the well-written Micchy, not the Takahashi one.
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>>22726893
Before he had his sudden Jesus makeover, Ace was a selfish piece of shit who was okay with letting people die as long as he got what he wanted, so hating him was completely justified. But Keiwa kept barking at the wrong tree (Mitsume) until the last few episodes.
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>>22726905
Yeah, if he had a problem with Ace and Buffa directly it'd have worked, but the "foreshadowing" for his turn was an out of nowhere obsession with Mitsume.

I think the actual is that they didn't want viewers sympathizing with Keiwa's villain turn at all, so doesn't matter when or how it happened, it had to feel irrational. I guess they feared if his words made some sense viewers could end up dislike Ace.
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>>22726894
I was too
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>>22726930
Yeah, I also believe they were too afraid to make Ace look bad. He never got called out for all the morally dubious shit he said and did in any meaningful way, as the characters who confronted him were always portrayed as hypocrites who were clearly in the wrong.
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>>22726905
>so hating him was completely justified
He was literally there when Daichi laid out everything so clearly an idiot could understand it and he still thought Ace was in on it.
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>22726874
sassy ass nigga
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>>22726948
Ace, throughout all of his lives, has heard of and seen countless people die in the DGP, but despite having the power to resurrect every single one of them at several points since he's a multiple-time winner, he always prioritized his personal mission of finding his mother over any of those lost lives.

When the Desire Royale started, he made it clear he just wanted to end the DGP in order to free his mother as soon as possible, the other victims (Keiwa's own parents included) be damned.
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>>22726034
I didn't care for Reiwa.
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Reposting Gotchard VCinema details from last thread

>Same style as Ex-Aid Another Ending = Three Parts with Duo Protags (Valvarad + ???, Majade + ???, Legend + ???)
>Returning cast members for all three = Houtaro, Minato, Sabimaru, Renge, Lachesis, Clotho, Atropos, Director Mami, Kenichi
>Directed by Sakamoto and written by the script trio Uchida, Hasegawa, and Akiko Inoue
>Preorder bonuses = A Tenliner recolor that looks like Madwheel, A Nijigon recolor that is black and gold, a Gotchaliber recolor that looks like the K-Touch
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>>22726977
>a Gotchaliber recolor that looks like the K-Touch
Imagine if Legend gets his own version of Complete 21.
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>>22726905
>who was okay with letting people die as long as he got what he wanted
Because Ace just like everyone else watching the show knew that people dying didn't matter because they get revived instantly anyway. The moment that's established in the show, Keiwa and Nago should've realized "oh, that's why he doesn't care, okay" instead of crying over things that visibly did not matter in the least.
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>>22726527
Me? Bro I wasn't the one crying
I bought a Tycoon core on Manda in a nice order for barely $45 total with several items
This anon >>22725915 >>22726076
who's crying about it is still seething
I even got a second Tycoon core under $20 off Amazon US of all places for a friend
He simply didn't put the minimal effort to get it, He saw "campaign exclusive" and sperg brain locked up and never moved past that

>>22726541
P-Bandai is easier to obtain than Retail these days
>China exclusive
Also was on some JP Spots
Again wasn't hard to get
You're not putting in effort

>>22726549
Again promo ran on numerous sites during that time
You easily could have acquired one
You're moving the goal and making up hoops to jump
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>>22727026
Did you miss the part where dead Players and victims of failed DGPs (such as Keiwa's fucking parents) do NOT get revived by the automatic reset?
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>>22727035
>P-Bandai is easier to obtain than Retail these days
So why are you crying that Majade's belt unit is P-Bandai then, Tycuck fan?
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>>22727035
>I even got a second Tycoon core under $20
Just the core? Because jfc imagine paying more than $3 for those useless plastic buttons.
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>>22727051
geats consoomers have no shame
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I want to have a discussion about "power sets".
I am endlessly fascinated about the set of forms, abilities, mecha, gadgets and whatever else each Rider has access to.

Of course every Rider has multiple forms but not all of them are "set of 3-4 multi-purpose" like Kuuga, Agito, Den-O, Kiva, Wizard and Drive.

"Half-forms" like W, OOO, Build, Saber and Geats also bring an interestung dynamic but usually end up criminally underutilized.

Some older Riders like Ryuki, Faiz, Blade, Hibiki and Kabuto simply have gradated forms where they're just a series of straight upgrades. but can instead utilize an external creature/mecha.

And of course the strangest is "total form change" like Decade, Zi-O and Legend where they just straight up turn into the same suit as other Riders with a belt or something slapped on. Sometimes they have rules that mean, even though they can transform into the other Riders, they can't use their abilities as well as the original.

Any thoughts?
What do you think is the best power set any Rider has? Does your favourite Rider have your favourite "power set" or are they different?
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>>22727174
>What do you think is the best power set any Rider has?
It's Ohma Zi-O, no contest.
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>>22727177
Fair enough in terms of absolute power, but an Ohma Zi-O TV show would be pretty boring, don't you think? It'd be over after three episodes.
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>>22727174
i'm so fucking tired of riders that can use other riders' powers
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>>22727201
Ehh, there's only 3, really.
Even DiEnd doesn't do it the same way.
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>>22727174
Ex-Aid is a modern example of graduated forms, and a good example of why they're the best. There is toy bloat, but that allows the toy company to make money. Aside from that, you get a very clear progression where everybody gradually grows to the next floor of power. But it still leaves the potential for underdog moments where a Level 3 can humiliate a Level 50 because he fought smart. And then you reach Levels X and 0, which are unquantified but have story and practical explanations for how they can compete with Level 99s.
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>>22727174
I think Gotchard's the best in terms of sheer variety. Over 100 unique Cards that can be used for forms, attacks (the gun can even use 3 Card powers at the same time) or Chemy summons, the possibility to switch between humanoid and non-humanoid shape with the basic and Legend Rider forms, the ability to upgrade all of those forms with the Igniter, the power to mix-n-match up to 5 Cards with Platina, and then there's Rainbow which not only can enhance the 100 basic Cards but also allows for enhanced basic form summons. Add Gotchard's nebulous alchemy to all of that, and the possibilities are pretty much endless.
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>>22726833
>the show itself doesn't seem to be all that popular
just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not that popular
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>>22727214
It's no different from the power levels in other shows, the forms in Ex-Aid just have a number in their name telling you how high that power level is.
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>>22727226
Its number of Twitter followers is really low compared to other shows.
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>>22727233
It's almost like Twitter is a dying platform
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>>22727237
>a dying platform
In your dreams maybe.
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>>22727233
what's next, the number of streaming on illegal sites?
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>>22727247
Xitter is literally the platform Toei and Bandai use to make announcements.
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>>22727256
And Insta. And Tiktok. And Youtube.
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>>22727258
The only place where they have individual accounts for each show is Twitter, anon.
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>>22727272
Keep moving that goal post anon. I'm sure you will eventually reach it
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>>22727043
kid show very complex too hard for average 4channel please understand
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It's Kajiki time.
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Gotchard time begins soon...
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>>22727274
>Keep moving that goal post anon
I will shove it up your ass, faggot.
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man clotho exists to get tossed around
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Lachesis is closer to becoming human?
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So they wiped out Kajiki every time he went out with the students and Lachesis?
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>>22727285
Maybe if Gaelijah gives her a power-up she'll turn into some OP abomination as a result of having the power of all 3 Dark Kings inside her body.
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>>22727288
Ergo he now has brain damage
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>>22727288
Feeling guilt is her final step in becoming human
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Lachesis is based on another human which means she should have memories of her originator
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Well Clotho just pledged herself to Gaelijah
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He just wants his gf back bros
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She broke up with him over text

What a cunt
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Look at all those Dreadtroopers
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>gets kidnapped
>sees your kidnapper is a pretty muscle woman
>hits on her

based
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Seems like the amnesia blasts are starting to lose effect everywhere
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So Hotaro is rebelling against the whole memory erasure thing?
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Man that playground must be alchemically cursed or something
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>Kajiki remembers Gigantliner
So I guess the movie already happened
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What if the tree malgam we saw in the preview is... Kajiki???
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VenomMariner Brother tanjou
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Well it's cool that Kajiki is basically part of the team for the final parts of the show
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>Hijiri turns into a Malgam again

Being Kaijiki is suffering...
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Rainbow UFO-X next week.
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Zukyumpire in the movie...
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We haven't had a show that fucks over the secondary and tertiary rider this hard since hibiki.
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>>22727340
Would be fine if it there werent 6 episodes left
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Today's blog revealed Sanjo was part of pre-production
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIe6yJ8Lbrg
Episode 45 preview.
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The new movie trailer was hype. Look more like a Vcinema one.
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Man I got this feeling that Gotchard's endgame is somehow going to be really rushed, we've still got

>deal with Gaelijah
>deal with Gigist
>deal with Geryon
>resolve Spanner's dark flames
>resolve Rinne and Atropos's relationship
>resolve Clotho and Lachesis's relationship
>resolve whether Lachesis turns human or not

Next episode is 45 and it's still a Kajiki focus, so let's say there are five episodes remaining afterwards, I assume Lachesis's humanity is going to be in the same story as when she and Clotho sort things out because it makes sense, Gigist will be dealt with when Spanner learns the truth about the flames, and then a couple of episodes for Rinne/Atropos/Geryon, but damn if it isn't feel like a tight timeframe.
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https://twitter.com/toeiHERO_movie/status/1812285015147045366
New trailer
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>>22727340
Pretty good, I loved the Kajiki mind wipes and it's cool seeing so many characters from the first half return (I'm biased to Hijiri in particular since I liked her in R/B). Based UFO X next week too.
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>>22727365
>Possible W crossover
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That movie is gonna be epic.
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>>22727371
Nah, it's just Legend summoning OOO, Kuuga, Den-O and W for the final battle.
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>>22727353
Well, that explains the 2 parter format
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>>22727379
Holy kino...
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>>22727362
gotchard is apparently getting multiple v-cinemas so most will probably get resolved there. Killing Greyon and Gigist shouldn’t be too much of a problem after the movie happens
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>>22727362
>>resolve whether Lachesis turns human or not
Half of today's episode was spent on that plotline.
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>>22727362
They are saving the plot point for vcinemas. Honestly they should've use the time gap after Girion first defeat to Legend arc to give Spanner more screen times. He desperately need it.
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>>22727362
I’m just glad there’s not enough episodes for an “evil Spanner” arc
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>>22727369
More punished Houtaro = instant kino
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The full image.
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>>22727401
>>22727404
>Atropos is the final boss
Kino
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>>22727404
Minato's full name never ever...
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>>22727362
>>deal with Gigist
>>resolve Spanner's dark flames
These are the same plot point.
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>>22727410
Minato Minato
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>>22727413
>still has Steamhopper parts
But how
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>>22727174
As much as I love OOO as a whole, I have always acknowledged that his form changing would be really awkward and unweildy if not for Ankh tossing him medals. Imagine trying to swap medals out in the heat of a fight. It's not like Double where the whole thing is very ergonimic and fast. OOO has this whole process to it where you're juggling a whole lot of stuff.
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>that trailer for the new movie
Gotchard has suffered from the movies more than any other show. Fire Gotchard was introduced in the main show and it felt like it should've been resolved in the main show too, but somehow it got shoved into a movie. Then you have all the literal spin-off advertisement in Gorgeous art, actual Chemies getting collected in movies, and somehow even Geryon's last stand is going to take place in a movie? No wonder the show feels like it constantly jumps from climax to climax. And then they probably will make new VCinemas to solve the remaining plot points to get people to watch them. I get that this has been a problem since Zero-One, but it feels like it reached critical mass with Gotchard.
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>>22727406
I don't think they allow kids to perform at live shows, don't remember her being at Cho Eiyuu Sai. The cryptic cast list for the V-Cins also hints she's showing up in those.
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>>22727420
>Fire Gotchard was introduced in the main show and it felt like it should've been resolved in the main show too, but somehow it got shoved into a movie.
What the fuck are you talking about? Fire Gotchard never got a movie debut
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>>22727423
Fire Gotchard appeared in the show as a deus-ex machina then he fucked off and if you don't watch the movie you're never going to get closure on him.
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>>22727420
You mean Gotchard Daybreak right?
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>>22727420
Geryon in the movie is from the future. Also it not easy to get Daigo actor playing for more than 1 arc.
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>>22727425
Do you mean fucking Gotchard Daybreak????????
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>>22727425
I meant Daybreak, by the way. Sorry for not being clear, the Fire Gotchard name stuck.
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>>22727425
The movies are part of the story
Complaining that you don't get closure if you don't watch the movie is like complaining that you don't get closure if you don't watch the finale
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>>22727428
>>22727426
Yeah, my bad.
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>>22727429
It gets worse with the name Fire Gotchard Daybreak.
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>>22727365
This actually looks good as fuck, what the hell. It's been a while since a Rider movie catched my attention like this.
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>>22727420
>actual Chemies getting collected in movies
No different from Drive killing some of the 108 Roidmudes in his movies or other Riders getting new forms in theirs that later appear in the show.
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>>22727214
Would you say Ex-Aid is a hybrid?

For example, Ex-Aid and Gaim (among others) have a system where they use collectible trinkets to change forms for situational use, but they don't tend to hold onto those situational forms and eventually follow a more linear upgrade path.
Personally, I prefer the older styles since, as you said, toy bloat and too many forms to keep track of oversaturate.
I love Geats' system, for example but I really dislike how in some toylines they treat Blank/Boost, Magnum/Blank, Blank/Ninja as separate forms. I mean, yeah they technically are but do they really need a toy form?
SIC Blank Ryuki is just ridiculous; who even wants that?
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Man I get the feeling that Gotchard is gonna end with everybody talking things out and making peace and the only people to die being Spanner's parents, Minato's friend and Germain.
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>>22727425
>Hotaro I’m you from the future and I’ve come to tell you the world is fucked if Greyon wins
>Greyon proceeds to be defeated
He comes back later, but for the audience who doesn’t see the movie, that bad future was resolved on his first defeat.
And what do you mean deus ex machina? Hotaro still has to defeat Greyon himself, Daybreak even tells him he can’t win his battles.
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>>22727445
So like, most modern Kamen rider shows. What a shocker.
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>>22727174
>"Half-forms" like W, OOO, Build
>end up criminally underutilized.
Did you watch those shows?
Eiji getting his medals stolen is a big plot point in the show and having W and underutilized in the same sentence is just wrong. If anything it overutilized the fuck out of it's forms.
>>22727174
>and a good example of why they're the best
did you even watch Ex-Aid? It's one of the biggest culprits of forms getting dropped like a hot potato. Levels are basically a useless title after Zombie Genm debuts and is worthless after the Lv X shit
>the potential for underdog moments where a
Level 3 can humiliate a Level 50 because he fought smart
except that never happens in the show. the closet thing is is Gemndeus getting rekted by Lv.1 and that's only because of it's ability
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>>22727447
>but for the audience who doesn’t see the movie, that bad future was resolved on his first defeat
Not really, because the show itself has a tie-in scene to the movie where Kaguya witnesses Daybreak fighting in his apocalyptic timeline.
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>>22727214
I would love to see what Ex-Aid you watched because I sure didn’t see that one
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>>22727214
meant for >>22727449
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>>22727218
>I think Gotchard's the best in terms of sheer variety.
In terms of completely unrelated, separate powers, I think you're right.
But how many FullBottles did Build have?

Personally I really dislike some of Gotchard's forms like CactusFalcon, the garish mushroom one and the fucking parka. I just think they make a bit of a mockery of Kamen Rider - don't get me wrong; of course I know it's a children's show (hell my favourite is Den-O which is goofy af) but they're not actually that funny and scream low-effort (to me - just my opinion).
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>>22727454
So? Last year Doom Geats showed up to laugh at Keiwa, the year before that George’s demon got teased, and so on and so on. Zero-One ends with a cliffhanger for the movie villain, Build has Evolt talk about his brothers to his sidekick and they’re never brought up again in the show itself. This is standard for kamen rider for a while, Legend watching one Daybreak over a vision doesn’t fuck with the story at all.
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>>22727461
>Last year Doom Geats showed up to laugh at Keiwa
You mean X Geats, you are bad at this anon
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>>22727449
>Did you watch those shows?
>Eiji getting his medals stolen is a big plot point in the show and having W and underutilized in the same sentence is just wrong
Alright, calm down, don't get your panties in a knot - I wasn't referring to ALL of them. Build and Zero-One underutilized all the extra forms - I'm talking about the ones that literally only exist in concept art. OOO and W did a fantastic job, although I would have liked to see FangMetal and FangTrigger in the show.

>did you even watch
Is this your only comeback?
Like, come on. We're on /krg/. Please, come off it. You mistakenly tagged my post in response to the other guy but you have to stop aggressively accusing people who just want to express their opinion.
Why don't you explain why your favourite system is the best instead of shitting on everyone else? Because if you don't put anything forward, it indicates that YOU didn't watch the shows.
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>>22727353
>Shirakura
>Tsukada
>now Sanjo too
Holy fuck, so many big names just for the pre-production.
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>>22727459
>But how many FullBottles did Build have?
60 regular ones.
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>>22727445
I don't see Geryon getting redeemed like some people here have been speculating. Also Gaelijah and Gigist will obviously die, so that he can ascend to the true throne.
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>>22727449
>except that never happens in the show
Level 10 Genm got killed by Level 5 a couple of times iirc. There's also the whole Lazer X vs Genm Billion fight.
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>>22727365
Just like Gotchard is the complete opposite of Geats, this movie looks like the complete opposite of that shitty 4 Aces one.
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Did hotarou's father ever get mentioned by the plot again or did they get bored of that plotline and forget about it?
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>>22727501
It was completely forgotten.
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>>22726068
what's Clotho doin
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>>22727501
Hasn't been brought up for a while
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>>22727501
I don't think he was ever meant to be relevant.
Japanese medias tend to do this because sometimes they think having both parents present would be too much for the interactions unless it's a specific family theme like Revice.
So either one of the parent already dead or just going somewhere far like Jotaro's dad in JoJo.
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>>22727430
Yeah right, like how Decade's ending was supposed to be in the movie taisen but got complained by the tv consumer back when it aired.
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>>22727506
They kept bringing it up for the first 10 episodes and had those weird ominous shots with his face covered.
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>>22727506
It was very clearly an open plot hook
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>>22727501
He's in prison
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>>22727501
It will be addressed in the novel
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>>22727508
>They kept bringing it up for the first 10 episodes
Yeah, in a "I help my mom out because my dad isn't here" and "dad isn't gonna make it for the holidays" way, not in any way that hints he's plot relevant.

>had those weird ominous shots with his face covered.
Faceless dads are common as fuck in Japanese media.
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>>22727501
He was brought up in the flashback from the Rainbow debut arc.
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>>22727362
and dont forget 'Hotarou's real origin' too.

>we never knew about his dad.
>yet we know that as a kid hotarou was an alchemist who met and befriended the 100 chemmies.
>we dont know anything about the ouroboros realm other than 'it exists'.

he is not just 'a regular kid thrusted into a strange situation', he never was, and its annoying they never addressed, or dont want to address that
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>>22727526
At this rate it's probably another case of "it'll be answered in the V-Cinexts"
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>>22727526
Newsflash Gotchard is shit, Bandai and toei asleep at the wheel because cards will sell regardless.
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>>22727526
>>we never knew about his dad
He's an adventurer who wears goggles and is currently out of the country because of his job, that's it.
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>>22727353
>>22727467
Gotchard being a committee project is not surprising. It feels just like Goseiger at times.

>>22727501
>>22727506
>>22727508
>>22727520
>>22727525
>>22727526
>>22727527
With the recent reveal that the memory wipes are failing thanks to Gaelijah, I'm expecting we will learn what will happen to daddy fairly soon
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This is the only thing he remembers from the filming of the Wizard special.
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>>22727556
Weird ass looking face
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>>22727362
Geats had more ongoing plotlines and one episode less than Gotchard.
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>>22727560
And its finale was a trainwreck.
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>>22727558
Lache-chan didnt drank enough Malk and its a bit groggy.
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>>22727561
so will gotchards lmao so was revice, saber saved itself at the end somehow and zero one was just the same. They can't land on final arcs well because the big bad has probably already had its ass beat by the final q4 form in the early 40's late 30's so they have to pull out of their ass a new villain last second and a "its the base form but better"
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>>22727561
And that's okay, the good make light of the bad.. though that's still a low bar
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we should've known better not to expect anything in reiwa,,
even if the last 30-40 episodes were good they can still fuck up the ending somehow
There's no such thing as a perfect series that ended the series with almost zero mistake like agito ryuki OOO or even ghost
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>>22727581
>ghost
>near perfect
Bait used to be believable
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ghost is a somewhat misunderstood masterpiece, along with 01 and wizard
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>>22727588
>Zero-One is "misunderstood"
Uhh, okay.
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At least Rinne is doing better acting
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>>22727588
Zero-One is one of the most popular shows in the franchise.
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Rehashing Q1 two-parters while we wait for the movie to release is lame.
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>>22726039
Kamen Rider SHARTT more like
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>episode 44 is set after the movie
>Greyon still has his troopers
I thought they also prevented the future by the end of the movie, but I guess not yet? Must be tough for the kids to live knowing what happens if they dont get their shit together.
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>>22727603
Its the Showa way
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>>22727603
>>22727600
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>>22727608
>>22727595
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>showa homage
>with no soul
i'd take OOO, fourze heck even W in terms of showa appreciation..not this turd of a mess
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>>22727603
>>Greyon still has his troopers
>I thought they also prevented the future by the end of the movie, but I guess not yet?
Geryon from Daybreak's timeline isn't the same as the Geryon from the show, they just end up having the same idea of creating the Dread Troopers. When Daybreak came to the past to prevent Geryon's apocalypse, he realized he ended up creating a new timeline instead of fixing his fucked up one.

The movie isn't about preventing the Daybreak future from happening, it's about helping Daybreak beat the Geryon from his own timeline.
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>>22727617
But enough about geats.
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>>22727621
Kind of like Future Trunks from the Dragon Ball series right?
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>>22727635
Yep.
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>>22727548
>It feels just like Goseiger at times.
Is that good or bad?
being a Goseiger fan is worse than death itself. A sentai that's sandwiched in between the most popular shows of it's era. It's still the only 2010 sentai that doesn't have a blu-ray
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>>22727639
No, it's the best rider series of all time. Trust me.
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>>22727639
Absolutely criminal how shinkenger and gokaiger absolutely mogs the angels in both toyline and writing.
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Reiwa's mass-produced Riders suck shit.

>Abaddon
>Demons Troopers
>GM Riders
>Dread Troopers

There's too many of them and they've reused the same suits so many fucking times they look like garbage.
Riotroopers and Zectroopers were perfect, how can they keep fucking this up?
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>>22727639
>>22727651
>>22727653
you need to go back
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>>22727654
Dread troopers are good you shitposting ape
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>>22727654
The Abaddons and the Dreatroopers look good though.
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>>22727658
Non-Rider tokusatsu talk is bound to crop up on occasion anon
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>>22727639
>>22727653
it was a regular sentai show sandwiched between two tokuota hits, it didn't stand a chance.
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>>22727619
B-Bakana, Niggerchesis...?!
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>>22727561
in what way?
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>>22727654
literally all of those were used less often than the Zectroopers
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>>22727675
>tokuota hits
I always feel weird with this term, you mean there are toku that just specifically made for diehard toku fans but not the other year? Like in the end all of them are toku anyway tho?
I understand for the anniversary season ones but wasn't something like Shinkenger was a regular season?
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>>22727709
It had broader appeal because it was a Sentai season with essences of kabuki theater and samurai dramas. Like for recent KR most would probably call Build a tokuota season.
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I haven't been excited to watch the summer movie since Zi-O honestly
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>>22727717
Love the idea that it's basically about following a fully punished Hotarou as he gets punished and getting pep talked by our current world line Houtarou that was able to change shit around and gain Rainbow. Him holding his eye as it got slashed was some great acting.
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Do we still don't know who's the main writer of Gayy?
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>>22727730
No, it's going to be revealed during the conference.
The conference will probably be sometime in early/mid August.
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>>22727730
Nope
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>>22727714
I always feel the tokuota-oriented Riders are the ones written by Takahashi.
For some reason his shows keep attracting these kind of audiences, especially with the heroines are more of a cosplay-type.
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>>22727740
Nips hate him though
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>>22727740
Kobayashi and Arakawa are pretty tokuota focused as well
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>>22727730
Eiichiro oda
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>>22727742
Yeah but I feel they're already past their time, Takahashi is like the current one.
Kobayashi's ToQger and Arakawa's Kiramager didn't seem to attract tokuota that much.
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>>22727740
>I always feel the tokuota-oriented Riders are the ones written by Takahashi
No, they are the opposite: normie magnets. Tokuotas are the ones with the harshest criticisms towards him and his shows.
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>>22727746
Who cares?
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>>22727661
>>22727667
They really aren't that great.
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>>22727714
A tokuota hit is a show that's praised by tokuota, regardless of its broader reception (like Timeranger). It doesn't mean a show with mainstream appeal, though some can also be tokuota hits, essentially being popular with everybody (like Shinkenger).
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>>22727758
Timeranger would probably be considered one of the prime tokuota seasons. Even doramas like Tokusatsu Gagaga elude to it as a similar series that the MC tries to get a friend to watch because one of the rangers is a big star now.
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>>22727478
You're not funny
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>>22727746
The strongest non-Rider form in Gotchard.
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>>22727717
Genuinely excited about it. Just as daybreak saved our Hotarou and his future, hotaro will save daybreak by giving him the hope for a better future. Poor guy though. He probably wanted to change the past so he can be snapped from existence but once he created a new timeline he probably lost all hope there.
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As an aside, I desperately need Hotarou to do the “you have two options” comment on Daybreak.
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>>22727779
Cringe
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>>22727709
You're 100% correct. Tokuota-core is just that one anon's "kino." Prior to two months ago quite literally every single time "tokuota" was used it was to talk about the fans, not as a descriptor for shows outside of the ones literally about tokuota like Akibaranger and Gagaga.
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>>22727748
for reference 2ch is laughably not tokuotas, that's like calling /m/ posters "toku connoisseurs"
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>>22727797
>for reference 2ch is laughably not tokuotas
2chan is a fucking otaku site, they literally have a board dedicated exclusively to tokusatsu.

>that's like calling /m/ posters "toku connoisseurs"
We're more knowledgeable about toku than the average western fan, Twitter users have literally taken their leaks from this place.
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>>22727801
>2chan is a fucking otaku site
...anon, imageboard posters aren't otaku. you can have the most casual shit on that. hell more often than not actual otakus tend to be more hikikomori. for fuck's sake even 4chan isn't otaku-focused
>We're more knowledgeable about toku than the average western fan
yeah, that's a given, but that doesn't make this place "better". the actual target audiences are still the ones who fully understood it, especially the ones that grew up on them.
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>>22727797
>A chan site that literally has a tokusatsu board "aren't tokuota"
Uh huh, alright.
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>>22727805
next thing you'll tell me /v/ is full of hardcore gamers
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>>22727804
>imageboard posters aren't otaku
A good chunk of them are. Normies on both sides of the world usually stick to traditional social media like Twitter, they barely if ever touch imageboards.

>hell more often than not actual otakus tend to be more hikikomori
Hikikomori are known for wasting their time on imageboards as one of their only forms of social interaction.

>for fuck's sake even 4chan isn't otaku-focused
I don't think you know what otaku means.

>yeah, that's a given, but that doesn't make this place "better"
Even with all the shitposters it's still far and away the best WESTERN place to discuss Rider, westerners on Twitter and other forums are way too retarded and/or clueless about the franchise.
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>>22727818
anon normalfags are aware of their existence and have already posted in them multiple times. you're confusing people having more outspoken opinions as "otaku"
and not really, hikikomoris aren't limited to chans, they actually have shit like that food blog among other things and yes, even other social media sites
>I don't think you know what otaku means
again I ask of you to look at /a/, /v/, /co/ or anything similar that usually has a semblance of "hobby". more than likely you'll get absolutely less useful information about a hobby, and instead just a bunch of psychotic ramblings
>Even with all the shitposters it's still far and away the best WESTERN place to discuss Rider
discussion? are you sure about that? maybe years ago during the W/OOO years maybe up to Build. But there's this trickle down of retardation that affects all parts of the site.
Ironically I've seen facebook of all places being better, but it's not for westerners.
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>>22727813
Wasn't Minato one of the masked people along with Spanner and Lachesis? They were mercilessly killed by Geryon's followers in the bad future.
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>>22727588
The only good thing about Wizard were the suits and the fight choreography. Everything else was utter garbage. Ghost was even worse that one had no redeemable qualities. Fukuda is the worst writer in the history of Kamen Rider every show he has been head writer for has been a pile of steaming shit. I have no idea why they keep hiring him.
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>>22727832
Shut the fuck up, shieatsfag!!!
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>>22727823
>anon normalfags are aware of their existence and have already posted in them multiple times.
They're not their site of choice, they won't post in them daily like they would on Twitter.

>you're confusing people having more outspoken opinions as "otaku"
You can find people on 2chan talking about the production of history of certain shows as well as their staff, so it's not just people with "outspoken opinions".

>hikikomoris aren't limited to chans
They aren't but chans are some of the usual places where you'll find them.

>again I ask of you to look at /a/, /v/, /co/ or anything similar that usually has a semblance of "hobby". more than likely you'll get absolutely less useful information about a hobby, and instead just a bunch of psychotic ramblings
You're looking at the boards that went to shit because they got too famous, and even then you'll occasionally find people there who are truly knowledgeable about their hobbies, more so than the usual schmucks you find on places like Reddit.

Now take a look at /m/, the fags at Reddit barely even know the people who make mecha shows, meanwhile we often get long discussions about mecha creators and behind-the-scenes shenanigans.

>discussion? are you sure about that? maybe years ago during the W/OOO years maybe up to Build.
We've had lengthy discussions about shows, their production history and their leaks even to this day. You will never see users of places like Reddit or Rangerboard going so deep into detail as to exactly how and why Zero-One went shit, for example.

>Ironically I've seen facebook of all places being better, but it's not for westerners.
I've never seen any worthwhile discussion about Toku on English Facebook pages.
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>/krg/ malding over the fact that the chans aren't exclusively hardcore otaku-central anymore
4chan's most prolific boards are just failed normalfags and edgy kids these days. 2chan's strictly the hyper edgy autismos looking to vent. They've long stopped being the "secret circle" they were in the early/mid 2000s.
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>>22727849
Kill all younger people so online discussions can go back to being less shit.
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>>22727845
>You can find people on 2chan talking about the production of history of certain shows as well as their staff
People do that regularly outside of the boards as well. Japan very much has an auteur culture, that's why individual writers, directors and even producers can become such household recognisable names. And this is true across most of their popular media. It's also why there's a distinct fascination with "behind the scenes" stuff all the time as well.
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>>22727849
>They've long stopped being the "secret circle" they were in the early/mid 2000s.
Still not nearly as mainstream as most other places.
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>>22726193
DOUSHITA
KINOSHITA
REVICE DA
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>>22727852
Blame the reiwanewfaggots
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>>22727845
>They're not their site of choice
doesn't mean they won't dabble, especially attention seekers that want validation
>You can find people on 2chan talking about the production of history of certain shows as well as their staff
mostly because said production history has already been made public, it's not a 2ch thing
>reddit
that's a given, but I don't usually use that as hobbyist central but more like "what if 4chan had usernames". and again, said knowledgeable people will appear in different places
as for discussions, while we see them from time to time, more often it's usually a "shared knowledge" that just happens to be unbacked.
as for zero-one it was outright mentioned in production notes so this place isn't really special in that regard.
>english facebook
there's your problem, like I said not western
>>22727854
it's not about being "mainstream" (even though ironically they have been made visible), it's about normalfags being there
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>>22727717
are you uploading it at MEGA under the Extras folder for Gotchard? Also, when you do your version of the BD batches will you be also including the Sponsor Spots that show the Chemy Cards and of the small scene of the Alchemy Academy at the end, cause NonActionableFansubs version had removed them from their batch for some reason.
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>still running the "sekrit club" narrative in the year 2024
It's time to stop Gramps
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>>22727856
The day you die will be the day /krg/ becomes good again.
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>>22727861
like seriously did people forget about chanology
or how 5ch went viral
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>>22727862
Who are you quoting?
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>>22727863
For our end of the pond the easy blame is the 2016 election. That was probably the final nail in the coffin
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>>22727858
>as for zero-one it was outright mentioned in production notes so this place isn't really special in that regard
Your average Reddit/Twitter user isn't even aware that production blogs for these shows exist. The most they know is some nebulous shit like "Covid fucked Zero-One" and that's it.
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>>22727869
I mean your average 4chan poster wouldn't unless someone else posted it, which is the same for those sites too
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>>22727865
Myself. Also I hope you die a slow and painful death.
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>>22727870
Don't forget all the leaks we only ever receive downstream
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>>22727873
yeah, nowadays are leaks from chinese (and not just toku, even video games)
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>>22727871
Who are you quoting?
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>>22727870
The difference is that when someone shows signs of not knowing their shit, someone here will usually go into detail to make sure they learn whatever it is they're clueless about. Clueless people on more mainstream sites will either remain clueless or will be barely informed by largely clueless people.

>>22727873
We at least know where leaks actually come from, which is more than what can be said about the others.
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>>22727880
that doesn't really matter when at the end of the day this place also enjoys what those sites like to do - making shit up
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>>22727881
what about matt hunt?
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>>22727873
>>22727873
Typically yes but leaks come from here every so often. "Matt Hunt is a Butt" wasn't that long ago.
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>>22727858
>it's about normalfags being there
Adult normalfags aren't into Toku though.
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>>22727885
so? the website are still exposed to normalfags, and it will still slowly trickle people into places that interest them. this hilarious idea that 4chan is a secret place is so strange in 2024
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>>22727603
>episode 44 is set after the movie
thanks
so it's like Build again
summer movie takes place before the series finale
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>>22726277
>She's such a little bitch if you think about it. Her motivation for joining the heroes is that she's afraid of her dad. She has a mental breakdown to Minato because of it and begs Atropos for her life even as she knows it won't help. She has to tug at Spanner's sleeve for safety after Clotho nearly kills her. Like her defining character trait is being scared.
Literally you are complaining of a flaw that is part of her character journey to fix. Admitting her past fuck ups and learning from them is what she's doing in this last quarter of the show. Hell, this current two-parter once more addressed her flaws. She's avoiding the mistake they did with Geats's Daichi, which was to rush his character redemption.

Q1 Lachesis was an asshole, sadistic villainess whose only good attribute was to care for the survival of her sisters and her own.
Q2 Lachesis was about doubting her allegiance to Geryon, failing to convince her sisters to abandon him, and eventually leaving the villain side without them.
Q3 Lachesis focused on formally joining the good side and teasing the idea of her becoming human.
Q4 Lachesis is about admitting her mistakes and dealing tactfully with her sisters, now with Spanner, Rinne and others as her allies.

And well, who knows if she will turn human and end up with Spanner by the end of the series. Maybe they are saving that for the Valvarad cinema.
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So was Rinne a homunculus all along? Has she learned how to act yet?
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>>22727923
Nah, she is just an awkwardly written and acted character. Nothing so far suggests she's a homunculus. Don't think they are going for such a wild twist this late into the series.
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>>22727923
Kys incel!
She's better written than most male rider and that's a fact!!
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>>22726066
>geats season 2 soon
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>>22727717
>LEGEND JOBBED

What the fuck?!
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I understand Atropos being a 10-year old kid is the reason she's not forced to work as much as the rest of the cast, and DAIGO missing out this isn't unexpected, but no Legend, Geryon, and Fuga?
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>>22727953
And his death wasn't GORGEOUS.
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>>22727717
Despite the ruined world, I'm glad the toku warehouse is still standing. Very excited to see this movie since Daybreak is cool.
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>>22727924
>Makoto and Kanon reveal happened in the V Cinext
There are still time
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>Clotho Rebis and Valvachesis make peace then team up and defeat Gaelijah

It's going to be so kino, bros...
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>>22728014
>Gaelijah
Who?
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>>22727526
>he is not just 'a regular kid thrusted into a strange situation', he never was, and its annoying they never addressed, or dont want to address that
Ironically, Hotaro is less of a human than Lachesis. Kid Hotaro was a monster as broken as Atropos, if not more. Suddenly, it makes sense he survived all those punches from Dread.

>>22727362
After this two-parter is done, there will be only 5 episodes left. I wonder if we are getting another two-parter before the final battle. Or maybe the remaining 5 episodes make up Gotchard's final stretch/battle.
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Do you think the movie will explain how future Gotchard gained the Daybreak form or will be ignored like Legend using chemies?
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>>22728100
The movie is seemingly following that world line's Houtarou's entire downfall into being fully Punished before our world line's Houtarou comes to save him, so yeah I'd expect we'll see the origin of his Daybreak form.
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>>22727954
>Legend, Geryon, and Fuga
they probably still can appear in one or two events, it's normal for Final Stage (or Final Live Tour for Sentai) to have the main ones who are always appearing while some others are considered as guests.
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>>22727556
Cute ass looking face
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It's going to feel weird having Clotho and Lachesis without Atropos.

Are they going to have a recurring gag with the final stage's staff placing a life-sized, cardboard cutout of Atropos and have everyone in the cast (except Lachesis) pretend they are talking to the real Atropos?
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>>22727369
Daybreak saved him before he lost his eye
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>>22728139
I mean, it's not the first event where it was just the two of them
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>Takebe's producing Gavv
Are we getting candy jesus?
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Anyone have a webm of Makoto's breakdown from the Specter movie?
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>>22728174
But it's the final stage, anon. Sometimes they even tell an adventure story to wrap up everything.
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>>22727258
Fuck Tiktok
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>>22727477
> Level 10 Genm got killed by Level 5 a couple of times
Everyone in the show at one point has killed Genm. That was apart of Kuroto’s plan.
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>OOO
is friends with Aqua
>W
I don’t know desu.
>Den-O
Time Travel
>Kuuga
Solo Hero
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>>22728217
The real reason they get summoned is because they are the 4 most popular Riders in the franchise.
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>>22728217
>OOO
Originated from alchemy.
>W
Two in one just like Gotchard.
>Den-O
Time traveling with train.
>Kuuga
Probably just because the first of Heisei.
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>>22728217
Wait... shouldn't OOO be dead?
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>>22728251
Retard.
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>>22727717
The fuck is that gridman ass teleporter
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>>22727813
Of course she would get a beautiful death.

>>22727827
>>22727813
Future Spanner seems likely he let himself be consumed by darkness and became Geryon's minion, a fate the series' Spanner avoided. Minato went insane, I think, and continued working for Geryon. Lachesis is a either replacement or got a brain reboot. Rinne, Kyoka, Renge, Sabi, and Fuga must have passed away.

Only Hotaro, Clotho, and Atropos are still alive in this dark future. Although I find it funny how Daybreak saving Lachesis in the series prevented the other two dark sisters from betraying Geryon. Daybreak traveling to the post made Clotho and Atropos remain evil.
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>>22727556
Cum on this face
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>>22728251
Dumb but still cute Lachesis poster...
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>>22728261
no pedo but Reiyo is really pretty. such a shame about her acting skills.
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>>22728261
Cute AND sexy
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>Makki comes to the Narumi Agency to ask for help
>Akiko and Philip insist on hearing him out
>Both are disappointed that he just wants help in wooing a female Inspector
>Shotaro decides to help cause he wants to get back at Terui
I'm glad I decided to get back to watching W
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>>22728493
I miss real character drama in Rider, all of the drama in Reiwa comes from these larger than life debates about what it means to be human or some other nonsense like that (Saber was the worst about this). Toku is at its best when its character focused
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Do you prefer the Riders physically putting on the belt or it magically appearing?
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>>22728519
Good thing you have Gotchard.
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>>22728521
Magically appearing > physically putting on the whole belt > slapping the driver on your waist and the belt strap appearing
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>>22728049
It's the female Dark King who can turn humans who previously became Malgams back into monster form. Her name is practically hard to spell but easy to say. But unlike Germain, who ate Geryon and would lose his powers to him, Gaelijah would survive in time for the final battle, where the Dark Kings would be absorbed to become Hermes Trismegistus, which I assume would be the combined form of the Dark Kings (this will backfire because Geryon is mixed in with them).
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>>22728493
>Aya wa Dopant de aru
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subs out
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>>22728521
Whipping it out from behind them with no explanation and then watching it wrap and go CLACK around the waist. The belt strap materializing from out of the belt almost never looks good.
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started watching Gotchard because its that time of the year again. I'm only sticking with it because of picture.
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>>22728191
Wonder why dont they just write houtaro as a brooding teen and rinne and a plucky one from the start. They show their acting chops better like that.
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>>22728646
Learn Japanese
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>>22728656
Nobody cares you dumbass waifunigger
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>>22728690
coz muh high skool protagonists
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>>22728702
As if you can’t have that in a high school setting either.
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>>22728690
Because Shirakura wanted to make Zi-O 2.
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>>22728728
Zi-O is better than gotchard, deal with it
Hell even fucking ghost is better than that
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>>22728733
Stfu, you're not the target audience
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>>22728238
Literally this
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>>22728741
Neither are you, fragile gotshartfags
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>>22728755
Keep seething, ameriturd
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Random question, but who was better, Saikou or Kenzan?
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>one of the better episodes in a while
>still no talk
Gotchard is doomed
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>>22728799
>in a while
Gotchard's been solid since Platina's debut.
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>>22728804
>gotchard
>solid
Lol lmao even
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>>22728761
Was really hoping there'd be a saikou centric v-cin where we see his backstory along with his original form.
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>>22728690
Brooding MC would clash with Geats' cool & confident MC, they never do "cool" MCs back to back.
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>>22728807
More solid than your dysfunctional dick.
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>>22728825
Not even Japanese agree with you
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>>22728831
Stfu, you're not the target audience
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https://twitter.com/toeiHERO_movie/status/1812321122119213460
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>>22728851
Stfu, you're not the target audience
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>>22728856
Not even Japanese agree with you
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>>22728861
Not even Japanese agree with you
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At the important series composition meeting to discuss the final arc (these meetings usually start at the end of the second quarter):
"Hmmm ...... Gotchard, how should I finish it ......"
"How to shoot for the best landing?"
"How do I portray a huge evil enemy? How to save the world?"
"What's the best way for Golchard to end it?"
"I'm so confused! Mr. Hasegawa! What do you think should be done, Mr. Hasegawa?"
"...... Kajiki"
"Eh?"
"I really want to mess with Kajiki."
The series is over!
...... No, we've actually discussed this a little bit.
Anyway, it's also true that Gotchard wanted to portray the beginning and end of each character in the last arc.
Mr. Hasegawa's comments that Kajiki is very well received, and is a very necessary part for the show as a whole.
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>>22728863
You copied the wrong post, pedro
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>>22728867
Not even Japanese agree with you
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>>22728869
Stfu, you're not the target audience
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>>22728873
Stfu, you're not the target audience
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>>22728804
W H E E Z E
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>>22727818
>Even with all the shitposters it's still far and away the best WESTERN place to discuss Rider

This bit aged like milk in same damn day
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>>22728898
Not even Japanese agree with you
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>>22728898
It's just one guy spamming. Easily ignored.
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>>22728697
you still replied lmao
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https://twitter.com/londonhearts_sp/status/1812426718092943713
"Make a Kamen Rider theme song"
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>>22728908
>>22728932
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Its Kamen rider valen I guess
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>>22728949
Forgot the pictures
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>>22728950
dark chocolate
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>>22728950
>no belt
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>>22728950
Look like a soldier. I thought sodo figures are pre-painted?
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>>22728962
Look at the size and elbow joints, these are not SODO.
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>>22728962
That's a prototype for the new gimmick figure line, not a So-Do.
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>>22728950
>>22728953
Welcome back, Saikou Shadow.
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>>22728953
So basically like this?
>chocosquare placement subject to approval
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>>22728954
He does. The ValenBuckle and Holder for ValenBuster will come in a set with the Buster.
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>>22728950
WHO IS THE SHINING SWORD?
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>>22728978
STFU Saborenigger
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Very mechanical-looking gun

Looking forward to it
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>>22728976
His eyes are white.
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>>22728992
Nah, they're green like chocodan
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I fell behind Gotchard, reached ep 38 yesterday. I still can't stand Houtaro.
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>>22728995
Some chink ask Color why did he not colored Valen eyes then he confirmed they are white eyes.
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>>22728999
And?
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>>22728950
>>22728953
>>22728984
so theme is Valentines/chocolates and wine? glad they didn't forget about G I guess
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Their armor are basically the same, just that Gavv has extra poncho and Valen has the ends protruding backward
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>>22729007
The chocolate is also clearly lower and has an extra triangular half of piece of chocolate at the neck area.
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>>22729007
So was it Chocodon for Gavv and Chocodan for Valen? Kinda strange that there's two almost similar (and serve the same purpose of being gun forms) but separate Gochizos for the both of them.
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>>22729016
Chocodon is Valen’s and Chocodan is Gavv’s. I guess they want to have Chocodan be around for awhile by making their items separate, but the fact that Valen represents the entire Chocolate toys in the lineup and Gavv Chocodan doesn’t even get a sofubi, Gavv Chocodan may not show up that much.
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>>22728950
>>22728953
>>22728984
It's just a custom based on the leaks.

https://x.com/kanade25nightco/status/1812755962983592443
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>>22729029
You definitely sent that stupid reply on a knee-jerk reaction because there's a character with similar body parts, right? Even though it's fan fiction, would you really make a hollowed-out character?
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Gavv's theme song
GOT BOOST?
FANTASTIC from EXILE TRIBE
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https://x.com/KR_avex/status/1812781903432540285
Theme preview
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>>22729040
Very lighthearted
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>>22729040
This is the WORST kamen rider song of all time.
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>>22729039
>>22729040
>Livedevil 2.0
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>>22729044
Literally sound nothing alike.
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>>22729040
Oh hell nah
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>>22729039
>>22729040
>Gavv
>Gabu
>Got boost
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A bit more color…

Valen will be more metallic vs. Gavv’s transparency
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>>22729040
Need to hear the obligatory rap section
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Are they gonna announce as much stuff as possible before the conference to give time for the unannounced writer?
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>>22729064
I see 3 possibilities.
>Extremely popular
>Unpopular writer
>There's multiple writers.
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>>22729065
Imagine
>Writers: Takahashi Yuya and Kinoshita Hanta
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>>22729052
The vibe is. This kind of boy band always does that type of song

Now if it's guys like Kishidan, that would have been fun
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>>22729040
Just sounds like a normal anime OP, nothing noteworthy
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>>22729040
Sounds inoffensive.
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This year’s equivalence to GotcharIgniter.

Hope it’s gonna be a duet upgrade for Gavv and Valen.
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>>22729090
Wonder what kind of food will fit the 2-step powerup
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>>22729090
>Two Q1 upgrades and the mid season form being two steps is the new standard
Can you fuck off honestly
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>>22729102
I’m honestly fine with both, it’s the early January upgrades like Ignitor that are terrible
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>>22729106
Christ I forgot Gotchard had the t-rex and UFO forms and it wasn't the t-rex one, yeah it's way too much. Q1 upgrades were already awkward because they got replaced so quickly, now there's 2-3 and then 2 mid season forms to shill.
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>>22729102
STFU, you're not the target audience
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>Liked Zero-One, can admit it has dips
>Liked Saber, can admit is has dips
>Liked Revice, can admit it has dips
>Liked Geats, can admit it has dips
>Liked Gotchard, can admit it has dips
>Can admit that all Modern Kamen Rider is made by the same teams of producers and writers and is all of similar quality, any seeming differences in quality of writing are purely personal preference
How based am I
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>>22729090
>>22729099
>>22729102
Can’t attach the picture for some reason but Color used a photo of 2 ice cream cones - one with chocolate sauce and one with caramel. Guessing that Gavv and Valen both have ice cream, with the sauce representing their signature snacks of sweets and chocolate
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>>22729118
you havent watch heisei, reiwanewfaggot..stop spreading lies
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>>22729090
>This year’s equivalence to GotcharIgniter
That depends on whether it comes out during early or late december. If it's early to mid december then it's a Q1 item like the Command Buckle, if it's late december then it's a Q2 toy like Powered Builder and the Igniter.
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>>22729124
It's Q2, we already have the full Q1 listings.
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>>22729118
>>Can admit that all Modern Kamen Rider is made by the same teams of producers and writers
Revice wasn't, it was a combo of newbie head producer and a writer who had never worked on Toku before.
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>takebe as a producer
I hope her magic touch in OOO & gaim is back
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>>22729127
And as we have learned during Gotchard, whenever a newbie producer gets a show, both Shirakura and Tsukada help guide them.

>>22729128
Guess you didn't like Geats then
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>>22729118
None of the others have even come close to Saber's endgame.
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>>22729130
>both Shirakura and Tsukada help guide them
We need to get rid of them, they're ruining Rider by abusing their influence.
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>>22729132
Can you please shut up for once, saberfag? We get it, let people have different opinion ffs
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>>22729135
who's we?
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>>22729137
No.
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>>22729135
I thought people like Tsukada here.
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The constant back and forth of extreme opinions is getting annoying now.

>Reiwa Rider X is the worst!
> nah, Reiwa Rider X is the best, Reiwa H is the worst!
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>>22729130
No i hated geats coz it tried so hard replicating gaim while on paper it could be something more
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>>22729146
but reiwa IS the worst anon..what is it that want me to tell (you)
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>>22729146
Reiwafag infighting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig2tItOIRag
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>tribalfagging
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>>22728950
He also has those feet claws like Gavv
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>>22729040
I wasn't expecting a future bass-y leaning theme, but I guess it does feel very bouncy and candy-like. Looking forward to the full thing.
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>>22729039
You know I've always thought an EXILE opening would be cool for Rider for years and here we are
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>>22729040
Unironically sounds like a mobile game ad song
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>>22729040
Very Kpop sounding, wonder if we'll get a second artist down the line to keep the trend going.
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>>22729179
>>22729180
The band EXILE TRIBE mostly do popular anime OPs and EDs. Them doing a KR theme is a bit of a big deal in the space.
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Well, wasn't expecting to see Drive pop up.
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>>22729039
>A FANTASTICS from EXILE TRIBE song sounds like a FANTASTICS from EXILE TRIBE song
It's such a small snippet, but I don't mind it.
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>>22729185
Maybe if it was some of the other members, these guys have only done two anime songs before, but anything is better than Gotshart at this rate
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>>22729188
You already got /ssg/ to talk about this fuckwit for hours, gonna try here too?
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>>22729194
Prove that's me faggot.
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>>22729193
FANTASTICS have done an ED for the Gundum G40 ONA and the third OP for Iruma-kun. The Gavv OP is closer to the Gundum ED.
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New bread

>>22729202
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>>22729188
>pedo
>drive fan
Dare I say, based?



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