Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, may your Drum Frames be well optimized by BUNNyS--useful links--https://hobby.dengeki.com/title_re-boot/>official Reboot illustration list, missing first few entrieshttps://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/12/mobile-suit-z-gundam-advance-of-zeta.html>scans of some of the earlier entrieshttps://hobby.dengeki.com/comic_novel/19559/>samples of the ongoing mangahttps://m.weibo.cn/u/6199800362?>weibo page of Watership 4.5, a fan circle that makes 3d models and prints of many AoZ designs. Good insight into how they function.http://www.inask.net/blog-category-144.html>another page with their stuffhttps://archive.org/details/Advance_of_Z_The_Flag_of_Titans_Vol.1/mode/2up>internet archive has scans of The Flag of Titans compiled in 6 volumes, this is the first onehttps://jim-quail.github.io/aoz-reboot-translationsWIP translation project for AoZ Reboot, beginning with Dengeki entries>last thread>>22986510
>>23008463Does Mars have oceans in UC?I don't get what the point if all those Gran-model units is otherwise.
>>23008434So the Advanced Hrairoo can't transform? That's odd. Still, it transforms for a reason right? What's the point in aligning all the thrusters for higher speeds when the Advanced equipment grants it even more horsepower in MS mode. Although the binders limiting arm movement seem like a flaw in the design. Not very useful in knife fighting distance.
>>23008470Yes, Mars is terraformed
>>23008601I would say terraforming a planet feels a bit excessive tech-wise in the late 0080s/early 0090s, but considering they're able to produce fully-functional human clones that are aged up to the desired age in no time at all, maybe not.
>>23008601>>23008897It's not fully terraformed at all
>>23008897>>23008904It's not fuñly terraformed. There's water and ñceans, and underground aqueducts. But no atmosphere or plants (I think)
>>23008926>water and oceans>no atmosphereIt doesn't feel like that should work.
>>23008897The process has begun before Universal Century but fell to the wayside as space colonies became the obvious way forward, so this isn't something that happened overnight. It's at least a century of work.>>23008933The oceans and waterways are entirely underground AFAIK
>>23008933Don't pretend you know enough about planets to contest it
This is a longshot but I know this pic was posted in this general before, does anyone know what's the source? reverse image search is still kind of ass with linearts, especially fanmade
>>23008972AFAIK we just had a guy that made these in the lineart threads. He doesn't seem to be around anymore. Lineart threads don't happen anymore either for that matter.
>>23008974Such a shame, those were fun threads
>>23009003Not much going for /m/ these days. I still wonder where everyone went. I get the feeling most went to private discord servers that I never get invited to.
>>23009137That"s for the best, discord servera knky exist to create drama
>>23009146to be fair there's plenty of drama and other bullshit here too, even if this thread is unusually chill
>>23009151We've got just the right mix. Niche enough to avoid spammers, enough autism to always have interesting discussions, and enough new content to avoid becoming a dead general. NDDG2. Well, the new content part is debatable these days, but I believe
>>23008495You gotta keep in mind this is a prototype, they're testing early TR-6 parts on the Gaplant. It's a trade off, but even with that it and Hrairoo Rah II are described as the strongest among Titans 20m-class weapons deployed in the war.
>>23009227What about Hazen-thley II?
>>23009240Wasn't "officially" deployed, since Black Hares were completely off the books and Test Team only launched theirs to destroy it probably like an hour before the war officially ended.
>>23009200https://x.com/omecha_aozr/status/1871186725776818602>We are also working hard to upload pin-ups by the end of the year.Trust the plan friend
>>23008974strange, could have sworn it was from twitter
>>23009247when they say pin-ups, do they mean MS girls or just cool shots of the mecha?
>>23009309that's how they refer to the proper volumes on dengeki
>>23009313let's fucking go
>>23009146I suppose, but I can't help but feel like we're left here holding the pieces.>>23009227>they're testing early TR-6 parts on the GaplantWDYM? The Advanced Hrairoo parts were always meant to go on the Woundwort?And what makes the TR-5 stronger than a Hazel? Doesn't seem like there would a huge performance gap between a Hrairoo and say a Hazel Rah.
>>23009473The same reason a Gaplant is stronger than a MkII. It's just higher specs overall. Bigger generator, more thrust, bigger guns (those binder guns are really strong), the MA mode means it can fly in atmosphere and move around faster in space, etc.
So are the Titans Test Team "bad guys" like the rest of the Titans?
>>23009718Nah, not really.
>>23009721Explain
>>23009728They're just flying around testing their machines against Zeon remnant groups, I don't THINK they ever do shit like gassing civilians, and they're overall good guys. Also they have pet rabbits. Then again it's been years since I read the pre-reboot manga
>>23009718For a quote from the novel:>“I would like to ask something of the officers here. If orders are handed down during an operation, what is the right attitude to have as a soldier? If you’re on the side that is ordered? Now, how about if you’re the superior officer giving those orders? The answer is obvious: it is only right to follow orders and carry out your mission. All responsibility lies with those who give the orders. Lieutenant JG Eliard Hunter always did the right thing as a soldier. I intend to assert that fact consistently in this military tribunal.”The whole story is about proving how the main character (Eliard) wasn't involved in the war crimes he's accused of in the aftermath of the war when the EFF is searching for scapegoats among surviving Titans soldiers.Now, obviously soldiers also have a responsibility to refuse unlawful and such orders (at least in some countries IRL, could very well be EFF doesn't share this approach) but the Test Team was never given any real reason to suspect their commanders were anything but doing what the Titans were said to be created to do - protecting Earth. AEUG were seen as just terrorists and things like Dakar speech as a propaganda stunt. They weren't completely without doubt, but they also didn't have time to worry and question that as frontline soldiers, let alone risk hesitating in battle.
>>23010114So basically the Titans Test Team was a rare example of non-bastard Titans who were actually on the level? Every other Titans-related story I'm aware of makes them out to be stupidly antagonistic.On paper, the Titans Test Team feel like the Federation version of the Zeon guys from Igloo. Not sure if they should be approached as such.I don't know if any form of Advance of Zeta is available in English, it just seems VERY poorly documented overall, even on the Gundam Wiki.
>>23010122Zeonic finished translating the novel, like, two weeks ago or so.volume 1https://zeonic-republic.net/translation/aoz_vol01.pdfvolume 2https://zeonic-republic.net/translation/aoz_vol02.pdf
>>23010122Keep in mind some of the TTT machines were also used by the asshole titans as well
>>23010122I mean, even in Zeta itself we have a guy like Ajis, a Titans officer who's a legitimately great guy that stops regular Feddies from getting handsy with Beltorchika and then protects Dakar from collateral damage. He also honestly believes Jamitov is a noble man and a great leader....then Jerid kills him for getting in his way but eh, details.
>>23010147and then we have a chapter of the ReBoot manga where the kids actively WANT to get put in the BUNNyS blender. So really, the TTT did nothing wrong
>>23009498Still on the topic of the Gaplant, is there a reason almost all TR machines are shown to use the Hazel beam rifle? For the TR-5 in particular it seems the Hazel BR is better than the dinky beam pistol it replaces with in the Re-Boot Advanced Hrairoo illustrations. Gotta save enough generator output to bunny hop I'm guessing?
>>23010225The whole point of the TR plan is modularity and parts compatibility between all MS. So everyone uses the same gun, the same backpack attachments, the same shields, etc.
>>23010225Just shared parts and equipment really. Same how for example GM Type CR uses a GM II beam rifle modified to use the standard E-Pac rather than the E-Cap system. Hizack too, the early production type's beam rifle uses this E-Pac standard rather than typical for it.The beam pistol thing is built on the same standard and is also compatible with the extra equipment for Hazel rifle but we don't really know enough about it to say what exactly are the pros and cons of it.
>>23010148>where the kids actively WANT to get put in the BUNNyS blenderWouldn't you want to become a Gundam too?
>>23010148Transhumanism is based, these kids are smart
https://youtu.be/sDShr9_DjxkHG Hizack custom review
>>23010248a shame he doesn't show compatibility with other AoZ kits
>>23010235>>23010238No stockholm syndrome here
>>23010248>no alternate hands It's fucking insanity that the HG Hazel Custom comes with extra hands, including one unique beam saber holding hand, all the way back in 2005, but Bandai 20 years later just can't seem to afford extra hands anymore. What the fuck.Third party companies that just sell alternate hands are making bank these days, they must be.
>>23010248The retracting leg armor reminds me a lot of the AOZ gigantic arms. Just a random thought
>>23010262Correct.
>>23010262Oldtypes wouldn't get this.
>>23010319Oldtypes should not be allowed near children
>>23010248Mostly very nice, but the accessories are certainly disappointing. If alternate hands are so much of a problem (they really shouldn't be) at least give us, like, a beam saber.Still, the proportions are excellent, the detailing looks very good and it's another Hizack which is a blessing upon this Earth.Not gonna lie, I'm kinda hoping we'd get a new Hazel HG one day. We'd have true transpack then, rather than having to muck around with modifying various kits.
reminder this is AoZ too
>>23010472Zeta project is like, the opposite of AoZ
>>23010472The Barzam MK II doesn't look bad. It arms gives me Virsago vibes. Probably because they go past the thighs.
>>23010472Is that from Mace of Judgement?
>>23010472>Hyaku Shitty
I wish ReZeon did more to "Zeonify" the TTT designs. Usually when Zeon steals a MS they change the appearance, see Todesritter, Gerbera Tetra, Sinanju, etc. But Rezeon just painted the buns red. Rehaize is the only exception, I want to see the corruption doujin transformation for every TTT MS!
>>23010729The argument is that these are already Zeon designs by rights since that's where the tech originates from (well, like half of it) so they are reclaiming it for their own.
>>23010731but then what about Rehaize?
>>23010732Alicia needed a muh special flagship
>>23008463
>>23010744Get ready for Boost & Magnum!
>>23010744Fox?
>>23010744There is another path.
>>23010729This >>23010731 but also ReZeon wants to distance itself from other Zeon movements. They're contolist larpers not principality larpers
>>23010262I haven't read that manga, whats it called and what chapter is this?
>>23010927OVER THE MIND, oneshot first published as basically Fujioka's doujin during Flag of Titans releases and later officially bundled together with vol 1 of Gundam Inle.
>>23010466the fuck is a transpack?
>>23011074Sometimes, a MS feels their a different MS on the inside, so they chamge their backpack to better resemble how they feel
https://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot74/got a delayed christmas present for you all
>>23011358the big thing about this one is the beam launcher spec - taking advantage of the versatile System Weapon mechanism and using power amplifiers to turn the short barrel rifle into a powerful beam launcher comparable to a mega bazooka launcher, especially in the rapid fire form. That one is high-end equipment for advanced TR units and Hazel Hrair itself.It's also a big (literally) Sentinel reference.>Long rifle with stupid high power.>Optional rapid fire option with what appears to be a cooling jacket (or whatever you call it)>You can mount a bipod on that spec too (and a bunch of other things but that's besides the point)>Option for direct frame connection for more power transferhell, even the round sensor placement is similar.This is a counterpart to S Gundam's beam smart gun.Oh and there's a fucking E-Pac revolver too
>>23011361>Oh and there's a fucking E-Pac revolver toopics?
>>23011375Top of the graph in the bottom right corner. The Experts are already working on interpreting it.
>>23011074You know how in the One Year War Gelgoog could pretty much just have a backpack slapped on it and be good to go as a dedicated high mobility / mid range support / etc variant rather than having to be produced as one from the factory?Think something like that, a whole bunch of Federation mobile suits in the UC 0080s had a standardized backpack system that let them exchange the backpacks between them and have a set of standard specialized backpacks that could be equipped onto any compatible unit for stuff like mid range support or EWAC and so on.
>>23011377Holy hell, that thing is enormously.. compact. I thought it was some kind of underbarrel launcher or something.
>>23011463The thing that really bothers me about AoZ is that just about every Mobile Suit design that comes out of it looks like it could effortlessly mog all the original mobile suits from Z Gundam.I have a very difficult time believing just about everything related to the Hazel is inferior to the Gundam MK.II
>>23011476>I have a very difficult time believing just about everything related to the Hazel is inferior to the Gundam MK.III don't think they're supposed to be inferior, I mean, a bunch of them were actually meant for combat as opposed to just being a testbed for the movable frame
>>23011476>just about everything related to the Hazel is inferior to the Gundam MK.IIwell that's because it's not. Regular Hazel, Hazel Custom and the like, certainly. But Advanced Hazel and Hazel Owsla are mid- to late-war upgrades to try and compete against the newest things AEUG was throwing out
>>23011479Things like this give me the feeling if the Titans actually had Mobile Suits like this, there was zero excuse they didn't completely wipe out the AEUG.
>>23011482because they didn't have shit like thisTR-6 was only available for deployment at literally the very end of the war and at that point the order was given to destroy it instead because using it would only escalate a conflict with an already foregone conclusion and cause needless deaths.And really, you could just as easily say this about stuff like Psycho Gundam and Psycho Mk-II, but these WERE deployed and didn't roflstomp AEUG
>>23011483>at that point the order was given to destroy it instead because using it would only escalate a conflict with an already foregone conclusion and cause needless deaths.Who exactly issued that order? Doesn't sound like something the Titans Leadership would do.>you could just as easily say this about stuff like Psycho Gundam and Psycho Mk-II, but these WERE deployed and didn't roflstomp AEUGThe Woundwort using Psycho Gundam parts feels like a good way to circumvent the whole newtype thing, because they never bothered making versions of the Psycho and Psycho MK.II that non-Newtypes could use despite the fact neither has any Newtype applications like bits funnels or anything else that could take advantage of being a Newtype.
>>23011484>Who exactly issued that order? Doesn't sound like something the Titans Leadership would do.Their ship commander, countermanding the HQ's order to deploy it into combat. Granted, this was at most a few hours before AEUG declared victory so the Titans HQ was in shambles and panicking>The Woundwort using Psycho Gundam parts feels like a good way to circumvent the whole newtype thing, because they never bothered making versions of the Psycho and Psycho MK.II that non-Newtypes could use despite the fact neither has any Newtype applications like bits funnels or anything else that could take advantage of being a Newtype.Psycommu isn't just for controlling funnels and the like, it's for controlling the entire machine. With the size and sheer volume of weapons it's impossible to handle without a Newtype or Cyber Newtype pilot, we even see this in the anime when Wooder gets in the Psycho Gundam and struggles to move it at all.
>>23011486>we even see this in the anime when Wooder gets in the Psycho Gundam and struggles to move it at all.Because the Psycho Gundam ONLY has a Psycommu interface rather than a traditional cockpit setup, meaning it was specifically built to be piloted via Newtype magic rather than buttons and control sticks.The original Psycho Gundam doesn't feel so complicated that a skilled oldtype couldn't multitask all its weapons in a standard cockpit. Maybe you could make a case for that with the Psycho MK.II, but the original Psycho is mostly brute force.
>>23011488No, it NEEDS the Psycommu system to be usable at all. No, a skilled oldtype would not be able to use it effectively. The closest example of that we have is Kou with Dendrobium and not only was he an ace and the exact right kind of nerd to use it well but he still had to drug himself to keep it up and it still wasn't enough in the end.
>>23011484>because they never bothered making versions of the Psycho and Psycho MK.II that non-Newtypes could use despite the fact neither has any Newtype applications like bits funnels or anything else that could take advantage of being a Newtype.My headcanon is that the Psycho Gundam could be seen as a first attempt by the Feds' own internal R&D department at developing a psycommu control system. Forget the more complex funnels, bits, and wire-guided weapons, they just want to make sure the psycommu works for controlling the mobile suit itself before anything else. That and because the psycommu is supposedly a very large and bulky system, the Psycho ends up being like 2.5 times the size of a regular MS. They did install like 15 beam cannons onto the thing, kinda too many for a single pilot to micromanage via conventional controls if they aren't linked together, but within the realm of possibility for someone to operate via mental commands.Psycho Mark II has reflector bits and wire-guided arms that make use of newtype powers.
why doesn't the reboot Gaplant come with that decal of the bunny wielding a lance? I'm assuming there's lore reasons
>>23011497nope; it's bandai being cheapskates
>>23011519damn I'm gonna do the waterslides for this thing and while I do have the large TR that goes on one of the binders I don't have the lance rabbit was kinda hoping that was someone's custom emblem and the Reboot Gaplant was some other unithence still lore accurate
>>23011482I hope the Woundy would be able to deal with the back pain after operating those hands under Earth gravity.
The Barzam II is fucking uglyShould've given it a mono eye because that gundam head looks like dogshit on it
>>23011358We're so back. >BipodI hate this, mecha should never have bipods>>23011361I wish bema smartguns saw wider use. They don't ever show up outside of Sentinel. Give me a Hrairoo with a BSG>RevolverPost it
>>23011476If it helps, you poated Hazenthley, not Hazel. That's a more advanced MS
>>23011484Psycho Gundam needs a NT pilot to mamahe 10+ independantly moving barrels ate once. Also it can shit out reflector bits. Prototype Psycho gundams actually fried the pilot's beain. And let' not talk about the time a couple Psycho MKII prototypes achieved CHIM
>>23011763You blasphemous fuck.Gundam head is scientifically proven to cause pant shitting for the enemies and enhance the balls of your allies with luna titanium coating
>>23011848blue eyes on a gundam is also ugly as shit
Serious question how does Mars Zeon afford all of their experimental fuckhuge retrofit Titans augmented shit when Char Neo Zeon had to be poorfags with the Geara Doga?
>>23011933Char Zeon only controlled one mostly mined out asteroid base. They got away with so much because they still and some resources, gold to bribe feddies, and a lot of nazi rocket scientists. Mars is full of tasty minerals, and they also have nazi rocket scientists
>>23011944If Mars is so full of resources why doesn't the Fed have control of it?
>>23011947Because it's too far away to control. They can barely keep a grip on all the colonies on Earth's orbit. Same reason why Jupiter is its own thing
>>23011933Char spent most resources on buying Axis, his mid-life crisis car and Alpha Azieru, that's why everything else is kinda "cost-effective" to put it kindly compared to the shit Axis was making.By comparison REZeon have the whole planet to themselves save for some guerillas - though it still took them like 2 years to repair Fiver II.>>23011947Because they can just bring in asteroids from the asteroid belt instead and mine them out in the Earth Sphere, they've been doing that for a century already. Whole lot cheaper than investing even more into trying to colonize and administer and govern another planet. That's where all the space fortresses like Luna II or Solomon came from.
>>23011954If that's the case why is Jupiter coming to invade Earth somehow a threat? They would suffer the same logistical problem but on a greater scale since there's no way they'd have as many people
>>23011848>>23011763Is it possible to take the AOZ Reboot Rezeon Barzam head and put it on the Barzam II?
>>23011957Spoilers for Crossbone, but Jupiter doesn't care about actually contorlling earth. They jsut want to nuke/poison/otherwise render it uninhabitable out of pure butthurt. The yeven acknowledge that they dont' have nearly enough manpower or resources to actually take on the Federation, their whole plan revolves around delivering a 1 shot kill via mass nukes, or poison, or space lasers.
>>23011957The first time Jupiter tried to invade Earth was because the leader had a massive grudge and his goal was to turn the whole planet into a nuclear wasteland while his followers thought they'd take it for themselves. They attacked by surprise, Federation didn't know they were planning it at all and thought it's a regular Jupitris-class ship.The second time was trying to shoot it with a massive colony laser all the way from Jupiter Sphere
Is the Barzam II a one-of or were multiple units made
>>23012165multiple units were made, but only by ReZeon. They're a limited production royal guard unit. The ones in Titans colors never got made
>>23012176Lame, the shield the Titans one has makes it look way cooler than the ReZeon one
>>23012208Don't they both use CSBs?
>>23012212huh. Upon closer inspection, only the Titans version is shown with one. No reason why they can't both use it though
>>23012216It's mostly a matter of what comes with the Gunpla and right now only the ReZeon one has a kit
>>23012345I think they want you to buy more Woundworts to get the CSB. Not too sure which kit the bazooka comes from though, is it the MkII's clay bazooka?
>>23012208I prefer ReZeon version.Titans one should've been called [Hazel Owsla II] in all honesty.
>>23012361Doesn't really have anything in common with Owsla aside from the legs
>>23012361the ReZeon one just looks naked tiny ass beam rifle and empty other hand
>>23012364I mean, if you'd Owsla a [Hazel II], it would be pretty much the same thing.
>>23012461Isn't Owsla just a designation for primrose-equipped Hazels? Hazel II already has a primrose due to being a TR6
>>23008972I dig. Powered GM Night Seeker
>>23011463>You know how in the One Year War Gelgoog could pretty much just have a backpack slapped on it and be good to go as a dedicated high mobility / mid range support / etc variant rather than having to be produced as one from the factory?I didn't know that because I'm allergic to Zeekshitstill in practical terms you want a new HG Hazel with a more universal backpack connector? I don't think it's happeningwhat else is there for the Hazel in Gunpla form? can only think of the Kelderek which just uses reused parts as far as I knowvery unlikely Bandai is gonna bother cooking up something new for the guy
>>23010889What the hell is the deal with Alicia Zabi anyway?
>>23012639There's no answer to that.
>>23012639We don't know yet
>>23012212I don't understand the whole Gran unit thing. Something about water.
>>23012671it's a hovertank
>>23012687And what's the practical application of that on Mars?
>>23012910What do you think are the practical applications of a high speed hover tank?
>>23010731What sort of weak cope does Zeon use to think the Hazel or drum frame tech can be traced back to the Principality glory days?
none of the official images I can find for the TR-5 have the bunny decal slapped on desunone of the images I can find for any of the designs have them on actually bunnies are gay anyway
>>23013079
>>23012910Flying is illegal on mars, enforced by orbital kill laser. So hover units are the next best thing. Also It hijk it has extra generators and such to carry more stuff
>>23012967Probably something along the lines of "all MS tech is derived from captured Zeonic plans and engineers" thought I'd argue the Titans specifically were less involved with Zeon than Anaheim
>>23012967I mean, Hazel in particular originates from heavily modified GM so fair but Drum Frame is commonly used technology since before mobile suits were developed. And there's dozens if not hundreds of cases where there's a direct link to Zeon tech in other things. Bellows Frame is directly developed from their amphibious units, Zeon was the only one to try and make flying mobile suits, etc etc. And then there's the kinda obvious stuff.
>>23011358>>23011361hey, we actually have old art of the folding mechanism for the beam launcher
>>23013761and a fanmade mockup based on the new art too. It's a very clever design honestly. It can still fire thanks to the secondary muzzle that slide in the right spot, and the sensor shape means it's still facing forwards in this form.
>>23010472I love Hyaku GM, looks like he’s dressed up for a Nativity play
>>23013761wait, where is this launcher in the other pics?
This...too...is... AoZ?
>>23013819i can see the vision
>>23013820I finally tricked my Youtube algorithm into showing me the obscure Japanese and Chinese gunpla channels. This guy is a huge AoZ fan and also made 1/100 gigantic arms, and is currently working on a 1/100 dendrobium
>>23013819No, wrong planet
>>23013835Kinda funny how this shares a color scheme with the Mars F90
>>23013790... the middle of it?
>>23014057It only just hit me that its a different launcher and not just more addons onto the Hazel gun
>>23014071This happens a lot with AOZ
When are we getting the other Barzam ii kit?
>>23014071but it IS more add-ons to the Hazel gun, that's the whole point
What was the point of testing the Gigantic arms pack? TR plan wanted to mak cheap modular MS, but the giant arms are not really something you can mass produce. And it's not like they go into Inle in any way
>>23011852well youre in luck because theyre green
>>23014410There's more to life than just grunt suits and ginormous mobile weapons, anon. TR Plan is set to encompass the entirety of EFF organization and doctrine, and not every role can be fulfilled by the two extremes. Yes, something like TR-6 [Haze'n-thley II] goes against the spirit of TR Plan but that's because it tries to be the strongest in everything, trying to encompass the "Gundam = strongest weapon" idea as a single machine when in reality the entire TR-6 project is the "Gundam".Anyway, my point is Gigantic Arms form has a specific role - combating other large scale mobile suits like potential successors to Zeong. Not something you fight every day so it doesn't have to be produced at the same scale as, say, Barzam, but not a niche that can be ignored either.With TR-1 [Hazel] it couldn't be equipped with Psycommu on time so the arms were glorified artillery units, but that on itself let it serve as a proof of concept for the modularity expected from the project, and still gathered data for TR-S [El-Ahrairah] whose own Gigantic Arms are basically composite weapon units.For TR-6 [Woundwort] in Gigantic Form, it can operate them as intended and is, functionally, comparable to Psycho Gundam or Psycho Mk-II depending on the parts equipped while retaining the benefits of TR-6 platform like BUNNyS, versatility, rapid adaptation and so on. And while combating other large is the primary purpose, it still can whoop ass in other scenarios. There's mention of several of these being deployed against Mars Zeon during ReZeon's founding war to great effect.
https://x.com/omechaunit_go/status/1873327248457257283Fujioka is hoping to update more frequently next year
>>23014733And none of it feels as if it visually fits within the timeframe AoZ is supposed to take place in.
>>23014775all gundam since decades ago has been like that
So the BUNNyS system is basically an OS performance boost right? It does calculations that can enhance the MS adaptability with various parts? It's not some whack ass ghost in the machine stuff like EXAM?
>>23014802>It's not some whack ass ghost in the machine stuff like EXAM?well...
>>23014821But it doesn't do any weird nonsense like the EXAM right?
>>23014822weeeeeeell...
>>23014826Thanks, I hate it.
>>23011358Now that I look at it the Sayaad rifle appears to use the same kind of barrel as the beam launcher. They definitely have some cross compatibility with upgrade parts like the side sensor too, I wonder how far this extends. Wouldn't be unreasonable to have a Hazel rifle with the Super Napalm launcher akin to the grenade launcher, for example.I also wonder if Sayaad rifle is meant to be a direct successor to the Hazel rifle or more of an offshoot. I'm learning towards the latter since Hazel rifle is still used as base for the high-end rapid fire beam launcher here.
>>23014775I really need to make a collage of all the designs from Zeta, all of them done by about half a dozen different artists with different sensibilities, with Fujita giving a final pass on most of them, just so I can ask what is the unifying look of the Gryps war era. Fujita didn't touch the the more standard Gundam designs like the Mk II and Zeta as far as I know, he wouldn't have touched the fucking Hazel. What is it about a GM with a Gundam that has the Psycho Gundam arms slapped onto it's backpack that makes you think it wouldn't fit in?
>>23014775People have been saying this for nearly as long as Gundam has existed.
Jegan(Barzam) or Barzam(Jegan)?
>>23014822All MS learning computers do weird nonsense, especially when paired with newtypes and, possibly, a Psycommu.BUNNyS is only a tad more cursed than SNRI tech.
>browsing AliExpress looking for odd shit to buy>come across a high mobility expansion set for the RG Nu with a new backpack and Advanced Hazel inspired platform shoes for it's feet Kino. Also unfucks the the head design.
>>23014884for the RG? That's interesting, I've only seen that backpack design for the MG Ver Ka. That head looks excellent. Got a link or name? Can't find it with ali's fucked search engine.I think the subarms are just regular HWS style (well, regular Hi-Nu HWS style) but the feet are definitely AoZ-coded even if the detailing isn't my style. Reminds me of the old Model Comprehend HG Nu HWS. That one also had high heels and actual Hazel subarms - as in, literally a bootleg of the HG Advanced Hazel mold. Also a ton of other stuff going on. Wish it wasn't impossible to find nowadays.
>>23014853Cute!
>>23014884Show the backpack
i-is this also AoZ...?
>>23011358>>23014773well that's probably the next two OP pics settled
>>23014773Would you take the E-pack she's offering?
Wait, there's Inle figures?
>>23015464Yeah, there's an "EX" mobile suit ensemble model of the Dandelion and Inle although they're super expensive for what you get
>>23015465Guessing they're all in SD scale? still, I feel like AoZ designs lend themselves perfectly to SD since they're already smol bodies with big attachments.Anyways, here's some Doven Wolf ancestry on full display
>>23015480They're a little smaller than SD due to the line being mostly gachapon toys (The EX stuff being P-Bandai which are a bit bigger) and generally stand at around three inches.There's a surprising amount of AOZ stuff out for it so they're definitely an alternative to standard HG stuff if you're desperate but they're pretty pricey and the individual models are pretty cheaply made and unstable in my experience.
If you think about it, Queenly doesn't need legs
https://x.com/TAGANEga_ORETA/status/1873650800641335564
>>23016265>I'm going to write a mysterious document summarizing my own interpretations of the production process. There is no credibility to it. It is merely an interpretation that includes personal delusions.uuuh based
>>23016265based autismo Chad
>>23016268>>23016348He did one like that for Hizack's shield of all things too to justify his design choices for a fully custom made 3d printed model. Japanese otaku are, unsurprisingly, built different.https://x.com/TAGANEga_ORETA/status/1860185205950284230
effect wings is gonna make the Kehaar II rifle (beam launcher), releasing next month. No shot they did this in like 2 days so it's a hell of a coincidence with the latest material release.
>>23017761no info if any kind of bootleg Kehaar II is in the works, but you can still give this rifle to regular Woundy and it does just fine.
>>23017762
>>23017763Works well with Barzam too, and no doubt Hazel can hold it as well.
>>23017761Great news for a change. Which designs were seen using this rifle again? Just the Kehaar II and the Icarus Hazel right?Bandai is so fucking useless these days I'm betting third parties will make a Flight Type expansion set for the Hazel before they do. And why didn't the HG Hehaar II come with this rifle like it has in the lineart? Fucking hell.
>>23017778Dandelion too. Kind of a running theme the flight type suits use it, now that I look at it. But I wouldn't be surprised if we saw it on a bunch of other suits from now on. The Sayaad rifle seen on Barzam Vervain also uses a similar barrel for what it's worth.And with Kehaar II it's kinda understandable because it's literally just the Titans colors art that depicts it with one, everything else AFAIK uses the composite shield booster instead.
>>23017765man a Barzam II with this rifle must look so fucking sickyou can order EW stuff on AliExpress right? definitely nabbing a few next month
>>23017788yeah should be available there within the same week they release it
Anything you're holding out for third parties to save you bros? Now that I think about they are the best chance we have of getting a Big Wig cannon that can be wielded by other kits.
>>23017795Bootlegs of the HG kits more than anything, especially Barzam, Hrududu and Primrose.Watership 4.5 has pretty much anything I could ever ask for, I just want them to let me buy their stuff without going through agents.Well, it'd also be cool to have a Rosette conversion kit based on the AoZ Hizack mold.
>>23017762>>23017763This is so cute
>>23008463what does /AoZ/ thinks/feels of 30 minute mission?I find the design kinda plain at first, but once the variation got released and I started mix and matching, it's scratches most of my AoZ itches, but there has yet to be anything that have scratches my woundwort itches. The closest one for me is probably forestieri
>>23017812All the ones I've seen just look awful to be honest.And I think Ebikawa has been chained to this stuff for so long that his designing skills are starting to deteriorate. All his offering in G-Witch paled in comparison to the other designers. Even Gyobu had a better showing and I'm usually the last one to say anything positive about him.30MM just seems like a worse looking Frame Arms line from Kotobukiya. But considering the significantly lower price point you get what you pay for.
>>23017812I don't have any personal experience with them so I can't really form an opinion, but from what I've seen I really like the concept between the simplicity and modularity, though I'm not really a fan of the typical style. It feels like it's hard to make them look legitimately original or unique rather than just a copy of a "proper" design, though at the same time this might be part of the appeal. Plus, I guess it's ultimately on the builder to make it all fit together.
>>23017824nah, Grassley suits were honestly the best mecha in Witch
>>23017784>Kind of a running theme the flight type suits use it, now that I look at it.what about the hazel rah?
btw so this guy should be called hazel rah ii now right?
>>23017935[Rah II] refers to being equipped with [Hrududu II], so this is still [Rah] Second Form.
>>23017970so he's called advanced hrairoo rah ii now?
>>23017975That's Hazel tho
>>23017982obvs not talking about the hazel anymore man
>>23017992Then what are you talking about? if you're unsure what it should be called we can't really guess what "he" is.https://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot68/check here. [Hrairoo Rah II] and [Advanced Hrairoo] are different things.
>>23017934Rah usually carries the long blade rifle
>>23017996I mean this guyadvanced hrairoo rah ii?
>>23018026[Hrairoo Rah II] Full Armor form. That seems to be the go-to terminology for when the various enhancement parts that compromise the "Advanced" upgrade are slapped onto a Hrududu-equipped unit, see also [Hazel Rah] Full Armor form.
>>23018047I love how, for all its bells and whistles, its only armamnet is still just the same old beam rifle base hazel uses. Well, with a barrel extension, but atill.
What could be considered a Full Armor TR-6?>>23018130And the only new armor parts from the Rah are the sub arms and heels. The Hazel Rah is a lovely design, but as far as Full Armor variants go that looks pretty underwhelming.
>>23018141But now it can headpat three woundworts at once while firing the rifle (the heels are for a better petting angle)
>>23018130I mean, by and large Gryps Conflict suits didn't go all-in on heavy and numerous weapons barring some exceptions like MAs and highest end late war suits. Stuff like Hambrabi, Gabthley or Byarlant are focusing more on pushing mobility to new levels, really. And Advanced/Rah is an all around performance upgrade to Hazel to increase survivability and try to push it to almost similar performance levels as these.And for what it's worth, it is a good rifle.>>23018141There's the head sensor too, mustn't forget that."Full Armor" here is a very different approach from older suits, but in fairness when they tried sticking Chobham armor on Hazel it didn't really work out.
a Happy New Year to all the universal conversion thinkers
>>23018463Gabthley also has fuckhueg shoulder cannons and claw feetsies. It's pretty much a 1:1 with Hyzenthley II. As for other Gryps suits, if we ignore the Scirocco Wunwerwaffen (Palace Athene is a Death Star on legs), a Gaplant is already both faster and more heavily armad than Hazel Rah. And Axis was already working on Zaku IIIs, Doven Wolves, Geymalks, etc.
>>23018476working on but not deploying. And Gaplant is faster and shoots more, sure, but again Advanced Hazel isn't pretending it's on the same level. Think more like Hyaku Shiki.
>>23018481>Points at Hyaku Shiki Kai>Points at FA HSKStill, guess at the end of the day Hazels are meant to be MP unuts on the level of GMs. I imagine if they had actually gotten adopted, they would've taken the place of Jegans or GM IIIs
>>23018488It's pretty insane how, despite it's visual complexity, something like a Hazel-Rah was still trailing behind MS like the Palace Athene or Gabthley, let alone The O.For all it's high ideals of TR Plan nonsense, TTT was still lagging behind true geniuses of the Gryps era like Scirocco.
>>23018508Hazel Rah is also slapping upgrade parts onto an already upgraded ~4 year old machine at this point, obviously it's gonna look less streamlined.Also Scirocco was a fucking idiot.
>>23018514>Also Scirocco was a fucking idiot.Damn.Anyway, what would be the TTT equivalent to The O? I was always under the impression it had better stats than the Zeta, but Kamille had an episode and stopped it from working because fuck you.
>>23018521The O is, at first glance, very innovative and genuinely years ahead of anything else in concept. It looks like a fat, pale banana but the entire bulk is covered in thrusters and is there in the first place to conceal thrusters. It's not a tank, it's a jet plane that's tougher than a tank.It's very simple in terms of loadout, focusing on just the basics of close quarters combat without abandoning ranged firepower. No real frills to it, even the subarms are just there to use more slightly souped up beam sabers. Even the Psycommu is just there to enhance control, nothing fancier.The O itself is like a successor to the Gundam, operating in a trio squad with Palace Athene (mid range support, Guncannon expy) and Bolinoak Samahn (long range support isn't viable, EWAC and data gathering is so Guntank role replacement). Incidentally, Crossbone Vanguard used the same doctrine later.But depending how you look at it The O is not a crystallization of "Gundam" but a corruption. Gundam's goal was paving the way for mass production, a strategic, large scale goal rather than beginning and ending at one singular machine. Meanwhile The O is an inherently selfish design with zero prospects for mass production or hell even use by anyone other than Scirocco.There's something to be said about how it parallels Zeta as well, but that's besides the point here.What's relevant is this concept is fundamentally at odds with TR Plan which sought to completely rework the entire EFF organization from manufacturing through supply to use rather than develop one-offs to stroke egos.
>>23018508Scirocco's MS were impratical for Mass peoduction, and some even seemed designed with that in mind. Palace Athene for example was designed to destroy entire fleets by herself(Like Dendrobium I guess). Reminds of me of the Thoucus from much later in the timeline. And to be honest it fits the Titans, they were supposed to be a small elite force, leave the massed GM tactics to the feds
>>23018521The O is a weird snowflake suit designed purely to fit Scirocco's tastes. It's a fatass but covered in thrusters so it's actually really fast, but it only has a single (big) rifle and a fuckload of beam sabers for some reason. It's a suit designed purely for anime beam saber duels, almost like Scirocco knew he was the main villain and would inevitable end up in "spouting our ideologies while saber clashing" scenarios. I don't think it has any I-fields, and beams were on everything by late Gryps, so the big fat plates don't really offer any protection, I'm sure a random Nemo could shoot it fullo of holes. If it mamaged to hit it of course.
>>23018534>There's something to be said about how it parallels Zeta as wellHow does it parallel Zeta? Zeta was designed from the ground up as an Earth invasion MS, and it does exactly what it was designed for. Reentry without a ballute, limited flight in atmosphere, good overall specs. Closest TTT unit would be one of the Dandelions. Also, it was cheap enough that after removing the newtype voodoo components, it cpuld be mass produced. Inlimited qualities, but still, it actually got adopted. Plus all the varients (A through F IIRC) of Zeta Plus provehow versatile the frame was. There's also the ReGZ and ReZel lines but those are Zetas in name only
>>23018559It's more thematic and narrative than mechanical, really. They're opposites.The O is a twisted descendant of Gundam, a flagship of a fascist regime.Zeta is a successor of Gundam as a fighter against opression.One is a lean, mean and agile beauty with plenty of modern gizmos and novelties pushing it as a forerunner of the new era. The other is a fat fucking fuck. Just a beam rifle and beam swords - four of them, yes, but the subarms are only there to enhance existing traits rather than introduce something truly new. By the way, they both have a sharp chin.One is piloted by Amuro's successor, a child at the limit of breaking (or just breaking again) crying out in anger at the injustice and cruelty of the war. The other is piloted by a cold, calculating, creepy adult treating everyone as tools to further his ambitions.
>>23011358>>23011361I really wanna see how Bellows Frame connects to it. Where would it slot in? And from where would it connect on something like TR-S or TR-6? Hopefully we'll learn more this year.
>>23018630Same as every other gun?
>>23018638Most guns don't have that function though, this is about additional connection to the mobile frame for more power and energy transfer than just the arm. Like with S Gundam's smart gun, it can use the slot one of the thigh beam guns mounts onto to instead feed the rifle more power.
>>23018660It'a all based off the Hazel rifle, so I imagine it's still compatible with stock attachment that plugs into Hrududu "jaws". Or the grip can just be held by any of the many sub-arms.
>>23018666Mounting point in the back like the long blade rifle's is probably the most likely option, yeah.
Happy new year, AoZbros.May this year bring more illustrations and that wish list kit.Mine is Galbaldy High Mobility Type, what's yours?
>>23018887ReHaize, Fiver, or the various Hrairoo and Hrairoo II variations. Maybe some Reben wolves, as a tteat. And of course, I need MOAR TR-S
Where do the Pale Riders sit in the AoZ tree? They're closely related to the GM Quel right?
>>23019110The Pale Rider has nothing to do with AoZ, its a late OYW-era machine.No it doesn't make sense, but what can you do.
>>23019277It's a souped up GM sniper custom with an OS that emulates another OS based on putting newttype souls in the machine. Meanwhile, a Hazel is a souped up GM sniper custom (ship of theseus) with an OS that based on putting newtype souls in the machine. You have to imahine they at least took some inspiration from the project.
>>23019284>Hazel is a souped up GM sniper custom (ship of theseus) with an OS that based on putting newtype souls in the machineplease explain????
Has anyone put together one of those red aqua hambrabi units and the tr6 barzam yet? I don't remember ever seeing artwork of it and definately haven't seen pictures of that particular combination in plastic.It came to my mind since the hambrabi is designed to go with the woundwort and the aoz barzam to begin with.
>>23019284Hazel is an offshoot of GM Quel which is a variant of the GM Custom, which is based on the Alex NT-1. The GM Sniper Custom is nowhere in this line.As for the OS thing, it's just convergent development. Everyone wants newtype powers or anti-newtype weapons, there's a bunch of different systems that are similar. EXAM, HADES, NITRO, NT-D, whatever the fuck. That said, BUNNyS is supposed to be a highly adaptable OS for controlling all kinds of hardware even including Neo Zeon MS equipment.. created by capturing the minds of newtype test pilot children at the time of death.
>>23019110They're not really close, besides Rider and Quel series both being Augusta arsenal projects they're not directly related. Closest thing would be Hazel Kelderek, which in the process of testing and verification of Gundam Mk-II tech for the purpose of mass production used Pale Rider-type leg thrusters (as well as NT-1 Alex and Mudrock) which contributed to establishing large leg mounted thrusters as standard feature on 2nd generation mobile suits.>>23019284That's not quite accurate. The Riders are refitted RX-80 prototypes which were based on GM Sniper II. Hazel is a modified Quel (Hazel Custom is Quel on steroids), and Quel through GM Custom is essentially semi-mass produced NT-1 Alex using Type C as basis and some cues from the Sniper Custom and Command lines.HADES is like a bootleg EXAM trying to replicate the effects of enslaving a Newtype's soul through the power of overclocking and drugs.BUNNyS is essentially turning Cyber Newtypes into operating systems, seemingly transferring even personality, memories, consciousness and soul. It was only fully implemented with TR-6, Hazel did not have it.
>>23019296seems like it works more or less fine
So the BUNNyS project is being carried out entirely separately from Augusta, right? They're both playing with the same fire. I'm guessing it was being researched at Konpeito Arsenal?And on that note, what can be said about Konpeito Arsenal? I think they were the only other people pumping out MS designs in the Gryps War other than Anaheim.
>>23019387Konpeito is one of like 8 different Federation development facilities not counting the Newtype labs. We don't really know the details of whether Augusta or other Newtype institutes were involved, but in all likelihood there was at least slight connection.
It's already next month compared to yesterday. If anyone sees the Kehaar II rifle for sale on AliExpress, do be a bro and give us all a shout. Sometimes Mr. Zhang tries to be sly and removes the actual name of the item when he puts it up for sale. Searching for "Effect Wings Kehaar II rifle" might return you with nothing.
happy new year, boys and girls; may we receive new kits of bunnies.
>>23019390Can't check right now, but OVER THE MIND probably mentions hwere exactly she's taking the kid to and from
>>23019110Titans did use DII and very likely it's compatible with most of TTT stuff, but AoZ tree didn't really do anything specific with it.
>>23019551I need to know more about this thing
>>23019551Worth keeping in mind that while evidently a few units were in use from UC 0084 all the way to late UC 0087 they weren't exactly common, Hizack won the competition for main suit.TR compatibility is also a bit of a mystery, DII is modernized to UC 0084 specs but it's impossible to tell if it's using standardized equipment like Transpack System. The DII with Gatling Smashers and Barzam head from Wearwolf is using the entire G-Line backpack rather than mounting the Smashers onto its regular pack, but that doesn't really mean much one way or another.I'd like to think it's Transpack-compatible, that seems like it would be a major factor in the competition, but it's all guessing.>>23019566A Pale Rider DII that had its head destroyed and was repaired with a Barzam head the mechanics had available, also equipped with a G-Line backpack with Gatling Smashers. It's from Gundam Wearwolf.
>>23019802Doesn't one of the transpack graphs show the gatling smashers as an option?
>>23019814Not exactly. We know they (and a ton of other stuff) can be attached to a suit via Bellows Frame, as for example with Barzam, but that's a different thing from swapping backpacks. A more advanced version of the concept, essentially. With that DII it's slapping the entire backpack on, so conceptually the same as Transpack system but that doesn't mean it's the same standard. Both G-Line and Pale Rider are or originate from OYW plans and the earliest definite case we have for Transpack system implementation is GM Quel.
>>23019818All hail the mighty 3mm peg I guess. Or rather, 3x144mm so, 0.4m ish peg I guess?
>>23019551Is that G-line Barzam?
>>23019818I feel like Transpack HAS to be older than Quel and Type-CR.Or at very least almost any GM (besides Ground GM) has to be easily convertable to standard Transpack as a part of GM II upgrade.As DII was mentioned as a possible Quel replacement, I can't imagine it not having a Transpack.
>>23020009GM II certainly has but that came about after Quel. I personally suspect Custom at least is also compatible, it'd be strange for Quel to randomly have it when it's a rather minor rework of Custom. Though, it could also be it was revised and completed with Quel - or rather theoretically completed.One of the goals behind GM Type CR and pre-production Hizack was testing it with the various backpacks used by TTT and it's noted to be taking cues from OYW Zeon machines, so it makes sense that late UC 0083 to early '84 is when it was first implemented and put into practice. Quel (and perhaps Custom) are the first to use the standard but it's not really incorporated into their doctrine and might not be viable quite yet, and then tests are conducted before it becomes the standard for a good few years.
>>23020033...and then Jegan threw it away.AE sabotage, I say!
>>23020063For what it's worth Jegan (D Type in particular) has its own stuff going on like Stark spec or EWAC. Compatible with Jesta, too. It's smaller scale but it's a different world in UC 0090s. Still, TR Plan heritage is very present.
>>23020068But the Jesta is cringe
>>23020068Something to consider, Jeddah still used Mk-II backpack so decision to cut the support for older parts was pretty late.I would find it incredibly funny if Geara Doga inherited Transpack from Marasai somehow.
>>23020103I'm not the biggest fan of it myself, a bit too tacticool for me (or rather wrong kind of tacticool). But it is conceptually like a small scale TR plan modularity system. Base unit has high performance and the variants aren't genuine separate models but just additional parts you slap onto a regular Jesta when it's needed for this particular situation. Want search capability, EWAC set. Mid-range support, Cannon spec. And there's room for adapting other existing equipment, like Stark Jegan backpack and large fuel tanks for high speed long range deployment.>>23020105Jeddah I suspect is still compatible or at least close to similar structure, since the oldest mentions it used some Mk-II tech and even same parts and it still retains that trait nowadays. But Jegan is explicitly not compatible so there had to be a cutoff point where Anaheim (possibly joint with EFF) decided they were better off discontinuing the system for one reason or another.I'd almost think D-Type goes back to that spec because it is much closer to Titans tech than first spec but that would probably be too drastic a change for a rather minor rework overall.
>>23020105...also I would lose my shit if the Geara Doga thing came true, that'd be hysterical.
>>23020033What exactly does transpack compatibility mean exactly? Is it a software thing? Is it a type of physical connector on the backpack?
>>23020103>>23020112Jesta is the wrong kind of tacticool for mecha, while AoZ is the right kind. Both are essentially systems based on modular attachments to enhance the MS, but while AoZ does it the mecha way (more cannons, more generators; more thrusters), Jesta tries to copy human-scale attachment(NVGs on a mech? Really? You're telling me MS don't have that built in?) Or the dumb "silencers" on beam weapons, or the concept of sneaking around in a 20m robot that shits out radio interference in the first place
>>23020213Black Hares would never.
>>23020219Those are straddlingthe edge.
>>23020213There are plenty of features just as dumb as "NVGs on a mech." I mean, folding down visors like the GM Sniper II are just straight up dumb. Basically every kinda head transformation is insanely dumb, and there's Barzam II doing it for no reason. The barrel's just modelled like a suppressor, just like how tons of the weapons in Gundam are modelled after IRL weapons with features that also make no sense. Alex sure still has a magazine on its un-bullpupped FAMAS, but it's not even an e-pac of course, it's a fixed e-cap. You've just drawn your own personal arbitrary line on what you think is fine and isn't, but really, it's been the same all along.For the record I love the Alex (And the Sniper II and fold-down visors like its), don't like the Jesta much, and like plenty of AoZ designs.
>>23020251In defense of the GM sniper, isn't the visor a protective cover that OBSTRUCTS the sensors? Meant to be raised while sniping, and lowered while in close combat. Or maybe that's thr sniper custom? Wither way it's not uncommon for sensors to have protective covers. If the gogles are actually stronger sensors and they aren't always on, then it starts to get a bit harder to justify
>>23020288The GM Sniper II's visor is explicitly a targetting visor with stronger sensors for accurate shooting, yeah. It is entirely because Izubuchi thought sliding down equipment (just like NVGs over the eyes) was cool as fuck. And he was right. It is. But not because it's sensible for a giant robot to do it.
>>23020307I GUESS you could handwave it by saying the pilot doesn't want the big zoom to be on all the time. Or maybe the "better" sensor has more AI enhancement to compensate for minovsky interferance, and that might be a bad thing. But NVGs? IR sensors are standard on every MS. Well, they are by the time of Crossbone at least. Maybe they only become standard down the line and OYW MS only come with regular cameras? Seems like a mighty reach, but maybe?
>>23020392It's not like they're actual NVGs in canon either, they're also just advanced targetting sensors (much like the Crossbone eyepatch, and the V2's slide up eye sensor really). The idea any sensor would flip down over a working sensor and somehow improve performance is already nonsensical. Nevermind the rifle it uses has its own scope-that's-actually-a-targetting-sensor that it then shoulders and "looks through" with its super visor. This is all really silly because at no point in this equation are there human eyeballs being amplified by these, just cameras feeding data that could all be working actively at all times instead of shutting off the main visor, let alone needing to look through a scope or even line up with it.It's all silly, but it's still cool as fuck to see it treating it like it's a human rifle because frankly that is a little bit the point of them being humanoid robots anyway.
>>23020422If they're optical cameras, then stacking lenses will indeed kmprove resolution.
>>23020392The Sniper II visor has compound sensors and precision targeting lasers specialized for long range shooting, it slides down to physically eliminate any interference. There's also mention of cooling, which implies the computers are pushed into a higher performance mode to gather data and formulate targeting solutions.
Why is AoZ so poorly documented on the Gundam wiki?
>>23020205Hardware and logically by extension software compatibility. The backpacks physically use the same torso attachment method on all compatible suits and the operating systems have to be able to function with them, either out of the box or by installing appropriate programs.
>>23020895Cause the fandom wiki is just done by random people and they were just doing their own stuff. Also keep in mind the wiki's kinda ass and while outright making shit up is uncommon (but not unheard of), bad quality articles aren't while not sourcing things is endemic.
>>23017824>>23017825now that I think about it, I really wanna see fujioka take a crack on this line. I am confident that he will do something woundwort-esque.
>>23021018I want to see Fujioka take crack. I'm sure he'll come up with something interesting
Snakes eat rabbits y'know?
What kits come with these shoulder adapters for the woundwort? The barzam ii doesnt include them despite featuring them in the promotional pictures.
>>23021873picrel
>>23021878the p-bandai TR-1 Hazel kits (also the bootleg woundwort kits)
>>23021018>>23021111His non-Gundam stuff is pretty interesting so I agree. Honestly despite how strange some AoZ stuff can look when you compare it to his other works it's like he's holding back from going too crazy. Something like 30MM (hell, 30MS and 30MF too) would be interesting with him.
>>23022428Realizing Woundwort is just a Medarot ia a turning point in every AoZ fans' life. You start seeing sings differently after that
>>23022428Did he do medarot navi?
>>23022700yep
New F90 Cluster chapter is translated, and once again the Monthly Mobile Machine has a direct reference to AOZ. They're really going for it with Cluster.>There's little doubt that preserved engineering ex- pertise from Mars, along with universal modification technology derived from the Titans' TR Project, were incorporated into the RF project.And the early model RF Zaku looks a lot like Borjanon... it's all connected.
>>23022915sweet, got a link?
>>23022921https://mangadex.org/chapter/16d05536-a4de-4c17-9fed-fd0052290991
>>23022915>>23022924>dying mom telling her daughter how she hopes she'll be a true Newtype that moves beyond war and how se believes in her wings>wings
>>23022924>March 121>Four-decade-long reignI wonder if this gives us an exact date for when Mars Zeon beats ReZeon?>TR Plan mentionedInteresting, since this is an in-universe article. I thought TR plan was top secret, like the GP project>BAR-GM mentionedlets goo
>>23022935>I wonder if this gives us an exact date for when Mars Zeon beats ReZeon?I doubt it, that dates it back to UC 0081 so it's probably just a rough number to indicate they've been around since shortly after the OYW, stewing and seething. ReZeon took over for, like, 2 years based on what we know. >Interesting, since this is an in-universe article. I thought TR plan was top secret, like the GP projectKeep in mind that the article is from UC 0140s and from Side 2 at the beginning of Zanscare reign. It's also a MS-enthusiast kind of thing, they're gonna know be at least somewhat familiar with old military projects and have no qualms talking about them when Federation has no authority over them.For what it's worth TR Plan has been previously referred to as "enigmatic" and the like so they don't have the full picture either. Also worth remembering stuff can get declassified over time, a lot of MSV and MSV-R stuff only had officially published information years or decades after the One Year War. Hell, GP Project itself was partially declassified in UC 0099.
>>23022937>from UC 0140s and from Side 2 at the beginning of Zanscare reignIsn't this written post-Victory? It mentions the warring states period which is Dust's "mad max in space" era IIRC.>have no qualms talking about them when Federation has no authority over them.Las issue's writers "died in a tragic spaceship accident" immediately after the article was published
>>23022948>it mentions the warring states period which is Dust's "mad max in space" era IIRC.Warring Space States period is generally stated to be kicked off by the Cosmo Babylonia war, it just kinda went totally out of control after Victory. We even have this dated for UC 0148.>Las issue's writers "died in a tragic spaceship accident" immediately after the article was publishedTrue, and there's been like 4 or 5 other cases like that but most of them are implied to be either Zanscare secret police or other groups that have power at this point in time. Not many people left that care about a project from some 30 years ago I imagine.
>>23022939El Abominación...
>>23022948As >>23022951 says Cosmo Babylonia war was the breaking point for the warring states period before that it was minor skirmishes/battles with outdated models that were put down but by this point more colonies start becoming independent and EF doesn't have the resources to do anything about it. By Victory Gundam they have practically bled out with Zanscare doing what ever they please. Though that makes me wonder what the other sides were up to during this time period.The mad max seems Hasegawa interpreting the warring states period since it isn't covered much in Victory out side of the only other independent colony shown being Macedonia
>>23022939I love the juaggu, but I'd 100% replace its coil legs with acguy or gogg legs.
>>23023249It's funny how this early UC general is also the best place to discuss late UC in /m/
>>23023249The in-universe kitbashes are from DUST and assorted Crossbone entries, in other words set post Victory. Between loss of qualified and experienced personnel, political instability and the economy going down the shitter (with all these issues compounding on each other) nobody really had the means to outfit and supply let alone produce machines on par with what was deployed by LM and Zanscare. Hell, even beam weapons are tough to maintain at this point.
what ifyour Big Zam
>>23024359was Big Ro too
>>23024359I'm more interested in whatever the fuck that red thing to the right might be
>>23024361The Zamon Ro ..
>>23024364Ah, yes. The Gran Zam, that time Mars Zeon stuck a Big Zam-like "head" on a giant hover unit together with a whole lot of guns and I-fields and arms. Except they didn't, because they got destroyed before it was finished.I assure you there is no relation to the Gran unit used by ReZeon decades earlier, or ReZeon sticking Fiver II on a giant hover unit.
>>23024373Biggest of Zams
>>23024359What’s Jamru fin doin there?
>>23024392Doing just Fin
>>23024392Jamru Fin began life as an Axis project for a Big Zam successor, but it had to be deployed into combat before it was done, so it's just the core unit of the would-be MA with makeshift limbs and head strapped to it. It still has the hyper mega cannon that would have been the focal point of the New Zam, but it's basically a self-propelled gun built around it.Big Zamuru is not what the new Big Zam would have been, but it is Mars Zeon's own continuation of the project and it uses the Jamru Fin body as that beam cannon unit and a detachable escape pod.
>>23024419F90FF has a souped up Jamru fin at one point, wonder if that's the "complete" MA?
>>23024373yep, definitely no relation between RF units (Gran Zam is basically RF Big Zam) and TR Plan or anything like thatDeeeefinitely. >>23022915
>>23024450No, that'd be the Big Booster unit that was originally prepared for interplanetary cruising range and operation within Jovian gravity pull, you can see it in the old kit manual too.
>>23024494This thing is so cool, pretty much a Zeon Deep Striker
>>23022915>Mars Zeon's RF series is the spiritual successor to the TR Project>Borjanons are RF ZakusMUH DICK
[The O II]
>>23025366The O II?
>>23026124...maybe [III] then. I completely forgot II was already a thing. I feel like killing its mobility by making it a tank goes against the entire point of the MS but what do I know, I'm not Scirocco
>>23026150He’s from Gaia Gear
>>23026150>I feel like killing its mobility by making it a tank goes against the entire point of the MS but what do I know, I'm not SciroccoScirocco didn't design The O II, it was the product of its engineering team just goofing around. The data got shuffled over to Neo Zeon after Gryps and they made it part of their ground forces.
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>>23026835The Byarlant one is pretty cool. A sja,e AoZ doesn't really delve into non-transforming flight types other than the Icarus units. Can the Kehaar II's fly in MS form? The big honkin' engines are still there
Was watching the Hrairoo Gigantic review and apparently it comes with a pointy chin face? Does the regular Hrairoo also come with it? Also, does it come with the Gaplant Booster or not?
>>23027833Unit 1 has a regular Gaplant head, unit 2 was modified with a Hazel face and had a chin protector added.
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