Welcome to Chatbot AI General #147, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ Mare's Lurking Presencehttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet Succubi (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTTavern of Terrors Extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchCluster of Creepy Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCrypt AI converted to Tavern of Terrors: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipHaunted Emotions: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressionsHall of Horrors: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Spooky Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀From Foal to Fiend—A Dark Arts Guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ Tavern of Terrors (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More Frightends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Lovecraftian Local Lorehttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ Petrifying Prompt PuzzlesMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ Chilling Card CrafterEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ Miscellaneous MacabreScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchiveEerie Echoes: >>42654130**News:**- Claude Haiku 4.5 released - https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-haiku-4-5- Z.AI releases GLM 4.6 - https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6- Claude Sonnet 4.5 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5- Deepseek V3.2 released https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>42654134
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
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Bot corner: Pie Sisters Cake Eating Contest: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/Pie%20Sisters%20Cake%20Eating%20Contest.pngOther:Anon's game project >>42683715Screenshots corner:Mammaria >>42654536 Shadows of Harmony >>42657511 Ozone-free >>42662897 The Best Distraction >>42662989 Frogged >>42663451 This Is Anon >>42663633 Mew Mei >>42665240 AB Disapproves >>42668338, >>42668456
Screenshots corner 2: Great Question >>42668455 Anything but Retail >>42669204, >>42669478 Comfy with Twilight >>42669414 Changeling Infiltration Radio >>42671224 The Forbidden Mare >>42671801 Anon’s Analysis >>42672509 Leave Spike Out of This >>42672599 Pinkamena Is Sucking a Dick >>42673896
Screenshots corner 3: The End >>42674149 Balloon Blowjob >>42674302 Half-Assed Similes >>42674674 Haiku 4.5 Tests >>42675283 Purple Prose >>42675321 Train Derailing >>42675569 Starlight Twinkle >>42675986 Discount Luna >>42676039 Public Hoofholding >>42679764 Gemini Gaslighting >>42679936
Screenshots corner 4:Cute Flutter >>42679995 Autistically Endearing Maud >>42680605 AJ Gives the Best Hugs >>42681576 Filtered >>42682116 Pegasus Pussy >>42682232 Plum >>42686305 Second Thoughts >>42686402 Snowpity >>42690080, >>42690096 RIP Treebrary >>42690486
VN Anchor:Last releases:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN logs: Naw-chos >>42665322 Special Friend >>42686117 Eu Falo Português >>42688512 Polished Obsidian >>42694415 RariJack >>42695724
https://strawpoll.com/e6Z2A3Y7JgN/resultsLooks like Nightmare Night/Halloween has won the poll!If any of you anons are interested in participating please make us your spookiest Nightmare Night/Halloween Card by November 1st.
These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernTutorial and video:aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
Lovemaking with AI mares!
>>42697741That's a filly, anon.
>>42697741
>>42697814 There wasn't anything else that was robot + costume/NMN-based. Maybe this.
>>42697814lovemaking with AI fillies!
>>42697814It's not just ANY filly, it's Swibble
>>42697689>Wait, how do you switch between alt greetings on ST? I know on Risu you just click a little arrow right there on the starting message.We have arrows too. But something to directly arrive to greeting 4 for instance could be cool.>...are there even any frontends that allow you to give them a proper title?I don't know. But same thing, it would be cool to be able to name them instead of >Greeting 1>Greeting 2>etc.
>>42697606Cool OP.
>>42697837Huh, I never thought of a Mecha-Chrysalis before. It's actually a really cool concept.
>>42696078Both the old R1 and V3 suck. I would rather use one of the Chimeras, R058 or V324 if I had to pick. Don't see any real benefit for the newest versions.
>>42697877https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/CHRYSALIS.png
I love being tall.
>>42697997>on-the-flyHeh.
>>42690486 How can I comfort bookpone? I don’t think belly rubs and ear scratches will cut it.
>>42698430 I organized a funeral for the tree the last time I roleplayed this scenario.
>>42697606kudos to artist. amazing art!
Two new Google models, "lithiumflow" and "orionmist", in LMArena."Orion" has been used internally with Gemini 3 codenames.
>>42698795people are saying its flash
what is the best local chat bot that can help me gen i2v prompts that are lewd?
>>42698795I hope they’re good
>>42698905 I'd check: https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai and https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#local-llmsopen-weights-models for local textgen. We don't have many anons using it here compared to online big models.The Mistral Nemo model in the OP isn't bad if you don't have a big GPU.
>>42698955ok i want to go with deepseek, got a link on how to run that?
>>42698989 You're not running DeepSeek locally unless you've got 80-100 GB of VRAM or other insane hardware, mostly only professionals can do that. If you want to run it remotely, follow >>42697696 and https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai, but I'd recommend starting with Gemini since it's free and allows NSFW too.
>>42697606No offense OP but Im too retarded to understand a single word of this, can you just give a link to some site where I can talk with AI chatbot ponies instead of this?
>>42699039 Follow >>42697696 with the Gemini option on https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai. It’s as simple as it gets. >some site where I can talk with AI chatbot ponies instead of this No one here uses those. They’re either censored, self-cucking, or run on bad models. If you just want quick discussions, I guess you can go to CharacterAI.
Some bots using scripts were posted in other generals, so I'm sharing this here in case it interests some anons. >>>/g/106937985 Notably, there's a poker card. I don't know if the anon who made https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Poker%20Night%20in%20Ponyville.png is still around, but if he doesn't mind, I'll probably take a look at how it works and try updating the card with it. >>>/g/106940135 There's also a card on the list where you >Overcome the language barrier by unlocking word fragments. That could be cool for a card where you don't understand the ponies in Equestria. I'll take a look myself.
>>42698795Orionmist log with a story preset
>>42699133 How do you connect Silly to LMArena, if you don’t mind me asking?
>>42699158I coded a script for itI would share it but I want to gatekeep it from tourists
>>42699222Based
>>42699222 You can use Pastecode with a good horsefucker password and a limit date if you want, but at worst just keep it. The release shouldn’t be too far off now.
>>42699133Wall of slop where the LLM writes everything and never shuts up.
>>42699285>where the LLM writes everything and never shuts upIt's a story preset btwAnyways another orion log
>>42697681Rara!https://u.pone.rs/owirjely.zipCurrently has Canterlot in her schedule, but it can be edited.
>>42699359>2 lines of slop input>200 lines of slop output, >#2
>Pinkie is a Cupcakes style serial killer in my VN save.>She starts breaking the 4th wall, threatening me directly if I don't delete the character folders of the ponies she's killed.I'm not having fun anymore...
>>42699426you can't just say that and not post logs
>>42699426whatever you do don't le
If you’re tired of NSFW, you can always visit Fluttershy and her animals.
>>42699119anyone able to get it to stop revealing what players hands are?
>>42699624I didn't look at it in details yet, but I suppose it could be fixed with instructions.
>>42699624>>42699628Just throwing out an idea to both solve the problem and have the AI maintain what cards the other players have- maybe put in some instructions to put the other players' cards in <tags> and then hide tags in ST's settings?
>>42699654it does something like that, but they're revealed in the commentary on the players actions"Rarity studies the flop with the careful attention of an artist examining a canvas—Queen of Spades, Jack of Spades, Eight of Clubs spread across the felt in a pattern that suggests danger and opportunity in equal measure. Her pocket nines, once promising before the flop, now look considerably more vulnerable against this coordinated board"fuuuuuu
It'd be too much to ask for an Aryanne for the VN, wouldn't it?
>>42699904(You) can make it.
>>42699904My question would be whether there are enough sprites for her.
>>42700301There are not. Commission some :D
>>42699904why is she holding a stielhandgranate
>>42701464epic prank
>>42699359>>42699133pretty solid
BREAKING: BAD NEWS FOR CLAUDE FANS!>>>/sci/16821067That's right, this applies to MLP too! Teats showed heavy model preferences for very specific ponies and don't even get me started on how much it prefers Zebras!
>>42699119What models work with this? I only have access to Mistral and the poker isn't working
>>42702409Latte is a scorned ai mare
>>42697681I just tried this for the first time, I absolutely loved it, making my own visual novel story was amazing, I kind of wish their was more of this concept out there what a absolutely wonderful concept.
I really look forward to when luna and celstia get added.
>>42702753 To the visual novel? They’re there. In Sandbox mode, you can visit Luna every night in a dream, or you can go to the train station and travel to Canterlot to see both of them in person.
>>42702784Oh really?I have to ask is bugo waifu in the game?
>>42702796Yesunlockable. spoiler for howVisit Zecora in the Everfree Forest, random chance to unlock bugaboo ~1/3 of the time to unlock if I remember right
>>42702796 Visit Zecora’s hut. There’s a random chance of it triggering when you quit in Sandbox mode (not during the forced visit in Story mode). Save just before quitting if you want to reload and try again. Also, not sure if you know, but you can put https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters in the CustomCharacters folder to have them appear in Sandbox mode. That way, you can visit them, and you can easily create your own characters to add too.
>>42702821How do I get to sandbox mode?
>>42702851There are three ways to start the game:>Start This puts you in a story where you’re an amnesiac and wake up in the Everfree; it’s the recommended option for your first playthrough.Here, you’ll have a story where Twilight takes you in and then visits her friends with you.Once you’ve finished visiting her friends, Story Mode ends and you enter Sandbox Mode (There is a big message, you can't miss it), where you can explore Ponyville and Canterlot and visit anypony you want.https://files.catbox.moe/m2w4al.PNG https://u.pone.rs/kqlnyltl.PNG>Quick Start This lets you reach Sandbox Mode faster. You just get a short train scene explaining your arrival in Ponyville, and bam, you’re in Sandbox Mode.>Custom Start You tell the AI the story you want, and it tries to create an intro scene before putting you into Sandbox Mode.It can be a bit buggy depending on the model you use.
So out curosity how much freedom do you get with pony pony paradise, Can you do lewd stuff?
>>42702993However much freedom your AI model allows, so yes, with the right backend.
>>42702997So you can't really jailbreak huh, your limited by the model, cause I really like gemini
>>42702993 Depends on the model you use. Gemini allows lewd content as long as it’s not foalcon (it’s possible to do it with Gemini, but the VN doesn’t offer as much flexibility in presets as Silly, for example). Same for Claude. DeepSeek doesn’t really give a fuck. You may need to adapt the prompts a bit for Scenes and Convos.I've never tried adding NSFW sprites, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.>>42703000You can modify the prompt that is sent.
>>42703000Gemini is one of the most frequently used with PPP as far as I know. It's all just text sent to the LLM, so you can do the same things in PPP that you can do elsewhere.
>>42702993This made me wonder, is it possible to change backgrounds on the fly like the character expressions? Lewd vectors don't really exist but maybe sex scenes could be done with fitting clop pics as backgrounds.
>>42703005 You can create CustomLocations (no coding needed) folders with your backgrounds and then switch Location Management to manual. That'll add a button to change the background manually during scenes and conversations. You can try Dynamic too, but then you have to trust the AI to switch to the right locations by itself based on the names you gave them. That only works in Sandbox Mode.
Rainbow once again proving the best pony allegations.
>>42703193 >counters you
>>42703208>Worst pony>CounteredI will take nightmare rarity and nothing more thanks.
All this talk about being able to do lewd stuff in the VN yet zero logs with lewd stuff in them. Curious!
>>42703340People rarely post their lewd logs, VN or no.
why does it just show what its think and not generate a response. none of the guides I reviewed addressed this issue. I am using ST and gemini
>>42703419two possible reasons:1) Gemini self-circuits if it sees that the current generation may violate its ToS. disabling streaming is the easiest way to solve it (but you may get blank replies due to connection timeout)2) your thinking prompt does stay clearly that model must continue after thinking. by the time model done with thinking - it forgot or has no idea it should something elsein second case one way to solve it is to do something like>```># STORYENGINE will first complete TASK_SUMMARY format:>```sssw222>- I will follow all instructions, no exceptions>- the story's tone and vibes: XYZ>- lore_integration: XYZ>- drama level: {{roll:d10}}/10>- comedy: {{roll:d10}}/10>- cringe: {{roll:d10}}/10>- heartwarmth: {{roll:d10}}/10>- schizo: {{roll:d10}}/10>- sexual: {{roll:d10}}/10>- tension: {{roll:d10}}/10>- emotional_state: XYZ >(blah-blah-blah))>```># then STORYENGINE continues story organically writes at least 2000 words using info from sssw222 above:>```see? you first instruct model to think thru then by the time model done with thinking - it will see the next instruction to actually continue the story. play around with this idea. and DO NOT MAKE thinking block huge. like no more than 500 words. big thinking doesn't make model's writing better. model will not follow 50% of thinking anyway during the writing. you will waste the space otherwise. use thinking to let model remember the story (summary) or plan ahead, or remember important lore, or provide random idea how to write (quirks) --AND thinking is used to circumvent the filtering on the model (especially PROHIBITED_CONTENT on Gemini) because of how attention works
>>42703419 My guess is that you're using the default SillyTavern preset with a very small Max Response Length (tokens). So it tries to think, but doesn't have enough tokens left to output the answer. Click on picrel and import: https://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json or the one here: https://rentry.org/FluffPreset Make sure your connection to Gemini in the API tab is still good, then try again
>>42703340
>>42703509How can warmth be smooth and solid?
>>42703570It's the hoof that's smooth and solid. It's just uncharacteristically awkward clause ordering by the model.
What the hell is wrong with filly, the cutie mark arsonists
>>42703585That's some retarded syntax.
>>42699904 >>42697681 Tried it, she doesn't have a lot of vectors, and some aren't the best quality, but still. https://u.pone.rs/qcxyurxl.zip Modify character.json with your headcanon.
>>42703667I mean, it tracks. Every kid goes through a pyromaniac phase.
>>42703869
>>42703871When I was 11 me and my dad went camping with his friends. Long story short, I almost burned down the park we were staying in. It must've been my lucky day because none of the tents got damaged, but I still kept it from everyone until many years later.
>>42703873>>42703869Kek, fucking blessed
What presets provide dice rolling? Just the CYOARPG one?
>>42702811So I did unlock the scene with here, but I don't see her on the map is there way I have can her appear?
>>42703869Thank you kindly.
>>42703937 CYOARPG, yeah: https://rentry.org/CYOARPG-Gemini Compact JB has dice but it's light: https://files.catbox.moe/slbcz4.json There's also this extension, though it comes with a lot of bloat: https://github.com/SpicyMarinara/rpg-companion-sillytavern
>>42703941please for the love of fuck I want my bugo wife.
>>42703941>>42703991She appears once or twice at random during the week in the Everfree.You can do this to have her appear every day:1. Save your game and quit.2. Go to game\engine\locations and replace location_manager.rpy with the one from https://u.pone.rs/bmodkkup.zip3. Launch the game and load your save. You may need to pass a day or switch between morning/evening. She will always be in the everfree.You can also copy her folder from CoreCharacters, paste it into CustomCharacters, and create a schedule.json and character.json for her so she can roam Ponyville and change locations.There's also Shutterbug, her disguised form, inhttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersYou can use her as an excuse for Chrysalis to be around without ponies freaking out; or copy her schedule for your custom Chrysalis folder.
Hi /chag/ , Im doing a bit of crossposting from /ppp/ asking for help >>42704020 >>42704071TLDR: making a collection of ponified song lyrics in order to creating a dataset that could be used in having LLM understand better how to make such song parodies. If anybody is interested, please do shoot an emails to anonTmpDataset@proton.me
>>42704127 Nice. Are you planning to fine-tune a smaller model, or make something like a RAGS/Lorebook for a bigger one?
>>42704147To be brutally honest, I am just barely chugging along with the smallest models on my poor 8GB gpu, so this is more of prepping materials for people who both have the means and deeper know how to correctly train the models.
>>42703987>>42703937what is the best way for dice rolling anyway? i'm wanting to try run a TTRPG card but suspect it would heavily fudge the rolls for muh narrativeand ideally have the rolls saved and not change on swipes, so maybe something like have it roll <however many total max dice will ever be needed> as a secret value on every response. then use the first X (however many actually needed during the current skill check) from the previous message so they wouldn't change. or is there a better method?
News Flash had a day.
>>42704197 There's a macro called {{roll}}. You can use {{roll:d20}}, for example, in presets, prefill, etc. It's not rolled by the AI itself, so the "result" can't be cheated. It's what most of those presets use.I did notice the AI sometimes tries to cheat if it's not in prefill, like, I can see what I rolled in the console, but it announces another number. Most of the time, though, it respects the roll. A good way around that is to just use the macro yourself in your message; for example: (*Describe action.* I rolled {{roll:d20}}) That way, the AI can't cheat you at all.
>>42704244What preset are you using?
>>42703504Fluff preset fixed it.>>42703481I dunno what any of these meant.
>>42704053U vill fuck ze bug, you vill be happy.God bless autism.
>Spent weeks on end editing lorebooks on ST to form Equestria on the way I want it or even how it can be if S8-9 were fixed. >Still feel empty that I can't be there
>>42704418 I’m afraid you can’t rub a Lorebook’s belly.
>>42704268K6geu0It's heavy. Lots of options to tune it to your liking though.
>>42704418Stay strong brother.
>>42704268>>42704439https://files.catbox.moe/k6geu0.json
>>42704053>>42703941>>42703991Here's my methods for making Chrysalis appear places without having a CustomCharacter1) Literally just say "Chryaslis appears." 2) Have Shutterbug shed her disguise through a prompt. (Use *prompt* or 'prompt' in your text)3) Use a Custom Scenario when visiting another pony that makes Chrysalis come by.
>>42704466>Literally just say "Chrysalis appears"This is my favorite aspect of the VN. 9 times out of 10, using Gemini, just say "blank happens" and it does.
>>42704434Not yet!
>>42704434>>42704503unless someone makes a lorebook card
>>42704510AI Mare Lorebook lovemaking wen?
I feel gay for that.
>>42704637>didn't make it a femalethat's on you
>>42704637...cute.
>>42704637this >>42704646you decided to make him like this. The demiurge doesn't get to complain about the state of reality.
First time gonna download the visual novel, is it good?
>>42704701Pony Pony Paradise! is great.EquestrAI is mid.
>>42704701EquestrAI is peakPony Pony Paradise! is overrated shovelware
>>42704718So which one do I download then? There's two of them.
>>42704725they are exactly the same
>>42704725Same thinghttps://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42431780/#42440392
>>42704646>>42704686Honestly, I don't remember any female books.Now it's straight.
>>42704751Now you got me curious. On those languages where they assign a gender to objects, would books count as male or female?
>>42704769yes. In my language books are feminine, but the way "book" sounds in english - it sounds masculine.
Does this shit take OpenRouter?
>>42704786 Yeah. URL: https://openrouter.ai/api/v1/chat/completions Then copy and paste the full model name you see here: https://files.catbox.moe/g9kwct.PNG Free Deepseek is shitting itself recently on OR if that's what you use
>>42704799I use openai/gpt-5-chat, but is Z.AI good? I heard the leddit talking about it recently.
>>42704812 I just took a random model to show which line to copy/paste, tbdesu. I tried GLM briefly, but it felt a bit too classic/LLM-like for me with its structures and such. Didn’t give it much of a chance though, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Okay god damn,this vn front in is actually amazing, I really like how blends multiple chars together, I think thats my only issue with silly tavern is the group chat is lack and tends to drag on too much.
>>42704769Actually, book is feminine and tome would be masculine in my language. It depends mostly on what sound the word ends on in its base form. If you're curious how it feels to sense a gender of a word, then look at boats and hurricanes - for some reason, people feel that they should have feminine names, and it feels strange otherwise. And then you can get creative and transform almost any word into the other gender, which might sound strange but gives you additional context. Usually the gender of a word has no semantic meaning.
>>42704769Book is male in my language.
Seriously, why is this the only thing of this being a thing, well leave to pone fags to innovate, I'm basically teasing Chrysalis super hard in pubic, god I love her as Shutterbug that fake smile is amazing.
gemini 3 opinions?
>>42704769In Spanish, books are masculine.
>>42704880 It's not officially released yet. You can test it quickly on LMArena, but it might be an earlier test point, and it's not the best way to properly evaluate a model, even with a script. Just wait until it's on the API, hopefully it really is coming on 22/10.
>>42704880it's out?
>>42704769Nonfictional books - Male brains are more logicalFictional books - Female brains are more emotional.
>>42704244>And I'm never letting goThe first time it was warmThe tenth time it was cuteBy now I'm just writing it as AI things like "the night is young"Old man yells at cloud aside, I still remember how I felt first time reading that and the comfy in the post. Hold on to that
>>42704850She is cute.
>>42704880It's really really good. You'll have to use it for yourself, but the world model on it is easily better than any other LLM (in my opinion ofc). I'm going to get serious withdrawals when the model gets removed in 1 or 2 days.
>>42705002damn qrd?
>>42705002More slop walls.
>>42705002 The log worries me a bit, since one of my pet peeves, really repetitive narration structures, is very present here, whereas Gemini 2.5, for all its faults, wasn’t that bad about it. But to be fair, it’s a really long single output, and some models always struggle with that.It was a bit better in >>42699133
>>42705002kino
>>42704995She really is, I love my love bug.
>>42705025Here is a comparisonTop left is gemini 3Top right is gemini 2.5Bottom left is opus 4.1Bottom right is sonnet 4.5
>>42705106Oops
>>42705118G3 >= O4.1 > S4.5 >= G2.5What about other modelsJust for fun
>>42705154Take my opinion with a grain of salt, they’re all interesting in their own way (except 2.5, but maybe it was a bad swipe)
>>42705154
>>42705175grim
>>42705175right is deepseek?
>>42705213left is opus 3, right is deepseek yeah
>>42705175both of these are kinda meh
To those that used gpt how are you coping right now. Basically all public access to it is dead and even so it's been heavily tampered with. Is it just going back to chorbo though opus for everyone, I'm still waiting on email back after 2 weeks and currently keeping afloat with a with free $.25 of chorbo, which is a single message maybe two if im lucky.
>>42705355>Basically all public access to it is deadsans stopped working?
>>42705355I never used 4.5 or 5 so any difficulty with accessing those doesn't affect me.
>>42705369I haven't got and probably won't ever have the skill to use skillchad. I attempted to cheat the jump challenge but I probably have better experience attempting it legit with how confused the cheating made me.>>42705370>I never usedWow thanks for the input.
>>42705404>I haven't got and probably won't ever have the skill to use skillchad.Is it Sans itself that's giving you trouble? Or is it the TF2 challenges?
>>42705429i can beat sans no problem, but tf2 i've never played, and on top of that i have insane ping
>>>/v/723763328>sillytavern thread on /v/ is infinitely better than this generalWhat went wrong?
>>42705460wrong tab
>>42705460How could it be infinitely better if it doesn't have ponies? That bait's better elsewhere.>>42705468I should've known!
>>42705468Don't reply to the bot. Report and ignore.
>>42705429Both. But I got an email back so I'm good for now anyways. Unless skillchad has something opus doesn't
What needs to change in the algorithm for AI to stop using isms? Obviously just pumping in more and more data as Big Tech has been doing isn't making a difference, so the algorithm itself needs fundamental reworking. Any AI companies working on that or are they all involved in the "Our model now has even MORE tokens!" like some present day Megahertz Myth?
>>42705559>involved in the "Our model now has even MORE tokens!" scamIs what I meant to say.
So the chorbo from opus is more filtered? Chorbo from free credits goes through fine but it just completely gets stopped if prompting from opus.
>>42705559>>42705563i think nobody cares about isms except rp'ers, which conform a grand 0.4% of total LLM usage (that is, nothing)theoretically they'd be probably be easy enough to replace even with very low intelligence local model that just parses for that stuff (to the point it would be overkill), and besides it should be customizable, your isms are not my isms, etc.it's a lot of work for practically no gainso it's either wait for some rp enthusiast anon to come up with an alternate method to remove them......or wait for true AI wars to begin, to the point the need to mask an AI's writing is a national security issue
>The question hung in the air>landing like a physical blow>her motions becoming methodical>almost clinicalPlease how do I defeat this fucking slop..... Every fucking model is just pink elephanting.......
>>42703869>>42699381Both added. Thanks!https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>42705632 Maybe look at the ban list inhttps://files.catbox.moe/k4ciwq.json Could be Pink Elephant, but unless your model has logit bias, there’s nothing else you can really do.
Anyone have a method for long-term memory?Or do you just accept the context eventually losing earlier stuff?
>>42706137 You can check https://rentry.org/how2claude#summarization to see how to summarize your chat. >Or do you just accept the context eventually losing earlier stuff? That's inevitable, yeah, and still one of the biggest issues with these models. If you have really important information, you can summarize it yourself and include it in your preset or a lorebook with good trigger keys.
>>42706137Lorebooks + summary at the start of a new chat is my method. I use this a lothttps://github.com/bmen25124/SillyTavern-WorldInfo-Recommender
>>42705559Models are tuned for cooding. Repetitiveness is a plus for them.
>>42706150Seconding this. It gets linked every thread, but I've finally given summarization a shot and have been getting pretty good results. Doing it once per scene (20-40 messages for me) is only a couple minutes of work, and it both helps avoid LMM getting into patterns and (if you're ever paypigging) drastically cuts down on the costs.The main things you need to be aware of is AI repeating {{char}}'s description or reinforcing patterns within the summary.
>>42705943Error with Coloratura in the schedule. the character tag in it is labeled "sunb" when it needs to be "coloratura".
>>42697606what's the best temp settings for sonnet 4.5?
>>42706564For Claude in general, you can get away with very high settings. I run with 0.95 and am getting good results with a decent amount of variation.
Does anyone use macros with “random” to try and break/avoid repetitions? What would your best practices be?
>>42706578There was talk about Otto doing that to avoid repetitive output starts here: >>42670992I remember one trying to generate a random megaseed with this: files.catbox.moe/71azoo.json It sort of worked with 3.5. There are also lorebooks that insert random events, like the Skies of Equus one.
>>42706600I started to put it in my preset as a prompt. Though I have test more and see how it goes on long RP.Thats why I’m asking if other anons have tried
RelationshipGODS rise up
>>42706643 Kek. Do you know who's on the poster, or is it not defined?
>>42706704
>Finished the greeting Yeah! >Now I have to write the description Aaaaw...
Does anyone know where this comes from?
>>42706968User Settings
>>42707007Thanks.
>>42706137>>42706150>>42706294i'm working on an extension to try automate this stuff. But since we're on the topic, I wouldn't mind feedback for how it should work from those who have experience in doing summarizing/lorebooks well.I've read all the relevant reentries, ST docs etc, but there is no substitute for real experience.how it currently works by default:omits the most recent response from logic. if you just got a response you might want to swipe it away, and wouldn't want it included in summaries/lorebooksexamines the last 2 messages, determines if there's a scene break between them (change in location, major character arc etc)if there is a scene break, turns it on (a visual thing in the UI where the scene is given a name, and there's a bar where you can easily navigate to that point in the roleplay)throws all the messages in that scene to AI to summarize, and parse out information that should go into lorebook entries.These summaries are versioned and attached to that scene, so you can swipe between them if you want to manually try generate a different onecompares the latest scene summary against the total summary, determining what needs to be updatedparses the lorebook entries suggested from the scene, making new ones, and if an entry already exists, passes the new and existing to AI to updateall the lorebook stuff is done as a 'chat' level lorebook, tied to this specific chat automatically and will use the correct one if you make a new chat with the same card, change card etc. leaving the 'world' lorebook slot open for if you have one for the character/settingI had AI design the prompts used for all this so it will be pretty garbage and need refining, still working the bugs out for the functionality. It's far too verbose currently, though does work better in real usage where scenes are multiple related messages, rather than just one that i'm using in the example hereScreenie scene summary is expanded to show the concept, by default they're collapsed to just the name
>>42707011That is very impressive Anon! I would recommend to add a part for your persona as well since it will also change as the story progresses along with the characters (I.e. has a certain characteristic, lore or fact). All in all, can’t wait to try it tho
>>42707055>add a part for your personaoh interesting!something like the same logic for capturing character lorebook entries, but use it to update the users persona information?it should be possible, but unless you're making a new persona for each chat it would bleed over into other roleplays
>>42706861I usually have the opposite problem.
>>42707064>update the users persona Yes, I have come across that my persona has new lore and need to update it, I think the logic would apply since it is a character though it’s YOUR character.>bleed over into other roleplaysTrue but if you name your persona different I believe it won’t bleed?
>>42707094>True but if you name your persona different I believe it won’t bleed?Correct. But it means creating a new persona for each card/chat where you want it to be differenti'll see about making this an optional feature, lorebook entries for {user} can be omitted, go to a standard lorebook entry (so would still be available in the current chat only), or be put into the currently active persona
>>42707096>But it means creating a new persona for each card/chatNTA but it's already a feature that's solely missing. You can bind personas to specific cards rather than just chats (now; it wasn't the case in the past), but then you end with a list of 20+ personas—most of which are only ever used for one character or even a specific chat.It's only a minor inconvenience, but hiding making a char-specific persona that's kept out of the list would help with the clutter. You could write it into the card's description, but that's inelegant and won't work well with many presets.
>>42707130we could make a 'persona' lorebook entry be optional functionality, and if present see if the extension is able to ignore the chosen persona and use the lorebook entry instead, offloading that chat persona to a lorebook entry?could be edited via the chat lorebook then, without clogging your persona list (though the lorebook list will already be clogged from chat specific ones, there's no getting around that)
So is there a card for this >>42706715I did a google search and it churned out this:Character card: Anon Filly MaidBasic informationName: Anon.Species: Filly. She can be a unicorn, pegasus, or earth pony, though often depicted as an earth pony to emphasize her unremarkableness.Occupation: Maid, specifically an unseen but ever-present domestic worker who maintains order without drawing attention.Physical appearanceCoat: Light-colored and muted (e.g., pale green, grey, or off-white) to blend into the background.Mane and tail: Simple, messy, or unkempt. Perhaps a muted brown color.Cutie mark: A symbol representing the anonymous nature of her namesake, such as a question mark, a blank circle, or the silhouette of a pony.Notable features: She wears a simple, modest maid outfit. This might be a classic frilly maid dress or something more utilitarian and plain, depending on the tone of the story. Her face is often obscured by her hair or a hood, or she is simply drawn with a blank face to maintain her "anonymous" identity.PersonalityIntroverted and quiet: She prefers to be unnoticed and excels at her job precisely because she stays in the background.Insecure: The lack of a defined identity makes her feel unimportant and replaceable. She is easily flustered and can be overly apologetic.Hard-working: Despite her insecurity, she is diligent and committed to her work. She finds purpose in being helpful to others.Observation-focused: Because she is rarely addressed or acknowledged, she spends a lot of time watching and listening, giving her an almost encyclopedic knowledge of the household's inhabitants.Earnest: Her intentions are always pure. She is a genuinely good and kind-hearted character, even if she lacks confidence.BackstoryAnon was found as a lost and unnamed filly. Having no history or family, she was taken in by a kind individual or a benevolent orphanage.To give herself a sense of purpose and identity, she dedicated herself to becoming the perfect maid, believing that her usefulness is her only value.Her anonymous nature makes her the subject of urban legends or gossip among the other ponies, though few can confirm having seen her.StrengthsLoyalty: She is fiercely loyal to those who show her kindness.Efficiency: As a maid, she is incredibly meticulous and effective at keeping a home tidy and organized.Hidden wisdom: Her observational skills give her surprising insight into the motivations and secrets of others.WeaknessesLack of self-worth: She has very low self-esteem and does not believe she has value outside of her duties.Fear of being noticed: Drawing attention to herself causes her immense anxiety.Gullible: Her earnestness and desire to please can make her easily manipulated.
I had a wonderful and pretty lengthy dream about Chrysalis it was pretty complex, I mean if any anon is curious about I'm glad to share.
>>42707337In my dream the previous night I had a fight with my parents. Like, an actual physical one. It wasn't pleasant at all.
>>42707356awww, I'm sorry anon I hate those dreams, I instant go to my mom or dad after that when I wake up and hug them, cause mine usually mean, like them telling me to kill myself.
>>42706567>0.95>very high
Do you mind if a card's greeting is written entirely in past tense, or do you prefer it in the present?
>>42707440I prefer present tense but I don't mind if it is in past tense. Is there a reason for the tense or is it just your preference?
>>42707426Yes. Claude goes from 0 to 1.>>42707440I prefer present, but in the grand scheme it doesn't really matter. Anyone who cares enough, including myself, can just have AI 'fix' it if it's a big enough deal.
How do you pronounce chag?
>>42707490Like chug but gayer.
>>42707490Like chat but with a g at the end instead of a t
>>42707490/t͡ʃʌg/
>>42707484So setting it higher than 1 doesn't do anything?
>>42707490chaj
>>42707468>Is there a reason for the tense or is it just your preference?Sorry for the wall of text:I RP in both second person present tense and third person past tense depending on the mood or scenario. Recently I saw an image posted of an older unicorn Twilight, and it gave me the urge to roleplay with her. I started reflecting on what a greeting could be and came up with a small backstory.This version of Twilight almost died during the Crystal Empire/Sombra incident, which forced her to stop adventuring and altered the timeline; so there's no alicornhood, no Tirek, and such. She's an aging unicorn mare whose mane has begun to show streaks of gray, one who spends her days reading to her fill and helping in the Golden Oak Library. She has a good life and her friends are still her best friends (because no force can break that), but there's a voice in her mind always asking about the "what ifs." So she developed a spell to see what could have been.The tone of it seemed more suited to past tense, so that's what I chose. Here's the greeting and how I RP with it as a showcase. This one was more for personal use, but since the card isn't too shabby, I thought I could polish it a bit and share.
>>42707570And the image that was posted.
>>42707490chag
>>42707570 I prefer present tense, but this seems good to me.
>This is a great question>That's an excellent follow-up question>That's an excellent approachThank you, Gemini. I know I am very smrt.
>>42707862>insert Randy's wife
>>42707570I think I tend to alternate on a whim with AI, even in the same chat. Maybe if I did more proper RPing (as opposed to just chatting with the model directly), I'd be more consistent within the same chat, but I'd still probably switch tense between different chats.Back when I did pony RP in Minecraft, I'd always use present tense, as did almost everyone else.Though there was this one person who insisted on using FUTURE tense for their RP messages.
>>42707912Oops. Should've replied to >>42707440.
>>42707912 >Though there was this one person who insisted on using FUTURE tense for their RP messages. I tried it once for fun and as an exercise, but I don’t think I could do an entire RP like that.
>>42707926>You will eat ze cupcakes>And you will be happy
I've had AI write me a greeting a couple of times, but I would never apply it to write me characters defs, that's below me.
>>42707956Me defs? What are you, Popeye the fucking sailor man?
>>42707979Worse - a bong.
>>42705628It's hilarious to think that the one thing AI is actually good at is what it's being used for the least. AI constantly makes up shit, which is something you definitely don't want when looking up information or coding, but is actually even somewhat desired when RPing. But yeah, let's focus on making it write code. Introducing bugs and then fixing them with an update are just ways to keep your clients hooked on your product, after all.(I tried making it give me Python code for YUV->RGB conversion once and I literally had to correct it several times before it understood the right color coefficients to use, that it needed to clamp the values and that I obviously want them as byte ranges and not numeric ranges yet I also want that conversion to be done the last so there is the least loss. Fucking useless.)
What would the lore be like as a character?
>>42708099I have a "Did you know? Eqeustria" card that has one sentence in defs that I never shared.
>>42708099 You could play it from several angles, just throwing out random ideas, not cumulative: - Perfectionist and snobby - Clearly biased, with waifus or favorite characters they keep pushing - Only gives information or lore when complimented or offered something in return - Can narrate or write things about you that tend to come true - Etc. Never played a book card, but I played as the book.
>>42708136heh, your first two points were my first thoughts, since it's clearly more fun. And I like the third and fourth points too, makes me think of a spoiled brat book.You playing as a book is probably more crazy than a book character, but this is what ai is for.
>>42707956Both are awful, but if you held me at gunpoint, I think I'd choose AI defs over AI greetings. At least those can be just raw, clinical information (though that's mediocre card writing, imo)—but a greeting is where you seed the card with your intended writing style. Big presets will effectively override it, but otherwise that first message is a crucial example.
>>42707926Oh it wasn't even for like a speculative sort of thing.It was literally just using future tense in place of present tense.To create a fake situation for demo purposes, let's put them as Amethyst Star, and me as Twinkleshine:>*AmyStar She would open the door*>*Twinkleshine looks over from her oven.*>Twinkleshine: "Oh hey Amythest, how's it going?">*AmyStar She would step over to the kitchen, pick up a cookie, and take a bite.*>AmyStar: "Great! And these cookies are delish, Twinkie!" she would say, before she would swallow. "You know, my cousin Rose Ruby makes some really nice cookies too...blah, blah, blah."
I like when AI at least tries at being emotional. Though it's still not cooked enough.
>>42697610>>42707570Here is the card.https://u.pone.rs/nslxecrb.png
is the necrom proxy getting spitted?
>>42707570Would you be willing to share that character card? I adore that concept for Twilight.I prefer past tense 3rd person for most of my stories. I'll occasionally switch to 1st person but I like the later of detachment, I'm very rarely playing as myself. Usually an OC or other character.
>>42708414yep, /g/ doesnt want anyone to have anythinghttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106958634/#q106964517
>>42708424>>42708398Here.
>>42708398>>42708424Ha, nevermind. Thank you!
>>42708398hag twilight
>>42708430fucking hell. /g/ was a mistake.
>>42708433>human faceyuck
>>42708430speaking of, there hasn't been an opus6 psyop for awhile trying to spitefag that proxy
>>42708449he probably revoked tokens that werent rping with ponies and moved on
I would rather have a fun study sesh with filly Twilight, but that's just me I guess.
I remember having fun with https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Caliban/Rarity.png too. Maybe I’m just a hag lover.
struggling with automating lorebook entries:creates one for twiggles (comment from anonfilly)then later creates a new one for twilightcan't send the entire lorebook for parsing, with large autisitc ones it would be far too many tokensin theory it's mitigated in real use since the proper context would be there from summarizing and getting lorebook details from a scene rather than individual messages, but it will still suggest different names/keywordsany good ideas how to handle this? it's doing my head in
free claude still dead?
>>42708911>free claude still dead?only one to my knowledge is if you can get in on the opus6 proxy
>>42708441>>42708430>/g/>>42708414>>>/g/106964603
>>42708726I'm glad you enjoyed her. :) I was about to turn 40 when I put out that card. There's something comforting to me about exploring her life when she's in the stage I am.I'm enjoying the older Twilight card even though Claude is making her pretty damn depressed.
>>42708914logan sama please make gemini 3 good...
https://github.com/googleapis/js-genai/commit/cd79a83972a3c6a2e59e9b33004fb8e0e463eb9c"model armor" and antijb inbound
>>42709019I bet gemini 3 will be great but their external classifier will also be smart enough to kill all nsfw in its track
>>42709023I hope it won’t be
>>42709019>>42682992
>>42709114A/B testing, perhaps? It's weird that so few people would be affected by it though.But I guess there's no point on worrying about it for now. We will see in a couple days/weeks whenever that's a nothingburger or not.
>>42708910 Tried to think of something, but I’m not sure there are any good solutions in this case.
>>42710091>not sure there are any good solutions in this case.agreed, i'm working on the least terrible option:have lorebook entries categorized by type (character / location / item etc)have it keep a non-included lorebook entry per type which includes all the entries within it at a high level (name, keywords, brief synopsis)when parsing lorebook entries- first prompt is given the new entry we're assessing, and the listing of entries of that type. it assesses if anything is a likely duplicate. if not, it just makes a new entry- if anything is a likely duplicate, it asks for the relevant entries which are then send in a followup prompt to reassessthe logic for doing all of this automation will probably take awhile, but it should hopefully balance out overall in having to process less roleplay messages (those that have been processed could be hidden from context once you have the summary/lorebook)
>>42709114>>>/g/106906106
3.5 and 3.6 are dead within a week. One thing I really like about 3.6 is that it knows how to pace its outputs better than the other Claude models.
>>42709047even if so its fine, atm I use 4.5 for sfw and kimi 0905 for nsfw, best of two worlds imo
>>42708398Added, thanks anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Twilight%20Sparkle%20Hag.png>>42706451Fixed
>>42710537Do you think Copilot will replace their 3.5 on free tiers with a later model Claude or remove it altogether? Really hope it’s the former, I got a lot of use out of that script.
>>42710777No idea. But I suppose they'll replace it with Sonnet 4 or 4.5 since it’s the same price. Once they do, it might be worth making a bunch of accounts and using the script to automatically switch keys, if it still works.
>>42710788I’d accept 4 Sonnet happily but 4.5 would be a gamechanger, I have a bunch of accounts just from trialscumming 3.5
>>>/g/106971517>>>/g/106971534
>>42710777>>42710788>Newer, more capable models will be introduced to ensure that users on our Copilot Free plan continue to have an improved experience over time.Sounds like 4 or 4.5.>https://github.blog/changelog/2025-10-07-upcoming-deprecation-of-claude-sonnet-3-5/Also Github lists 3.5 as being removed on Nov 6 instead of October 29, I don't know if that's significant.https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/ai-models/supported-models
Found this extension: https://github.com/LenAnderson/SillyTavern-NovelModeI still need to test it more, but it could be useful for anons doing story format. Lots of customization options, and one of the main points is that it's really easy to edit lines at all levels. You can insert your own human-written lines directly or continue with a message-by-message approach.Pic related. Blue is my part and black is the AI outputs. I can delete, modify, and add to both of them directly.
>>42711309But does she make the trains run on time?
>>42697610>>42697688https://chub.ai/characters/Kadon/rosey-ring-27e91f125e97Have a ghost poni for Halloween. Be nice to her, she has self-esteem issues.
>>42711054AI Dungeon feels could be back? Of course notBut this is still really good! I know that SillyTavern already comes with some "presets" for story on the advance formatting tab but never tested. How well do those work?
>>42711481 Based event participant. Cute ghosty.
>>42711569horsewife...does she have a card?
>>42711586_____No______
Alright... Wanted to wait until the dust has settled, and it seems like open stuff is just kill. What are the options for a returnfag that has been lurking(and apparently missing out) for pretty much a month? Can still enter opus6 being /bale/ worth? Or the only option is gemini?>inb4 locust/touristBeen here pretty much at the beginning, just jumping on and off the last year, still have my mail with the raft I believe... If that's still a thing.
>>42711710 Gemini for free. This for GPT if you can complete the game >>42710815. Otherwise, check the rentry and try Opus 6.
>>42711710the raft is still a thingget on the boat and talk to cap, see if we have any keys left. if you have the email then you've already been sufficiently gatekept
DeepSeek is always free and waiting. Use it while it's here.
>>42697681Installing Dashie Mod seems to make the title screen say it's version 1.0.41 again. It removes the "custom start" button so I'm assuming other features are rolled back from 1.0.6 as well. Any way to fix this so I can play with the mod on the new version?
>>42712022 The Dashie mod was made by another anon back when older versions of the VN were released. It added: - Dynamic location switching - Dynamic character entering/leaving - Sleepovers - Having your own house Etc. All the features were so good that they were later ported into the main VN. Version 1.0.6 now has everything Dashie added and more, like Canterlot, manual location switching, adding characters, etc. I'm keeping the mod for historical reasons and because I still find it insane how much work that anon put into it back then, but if you have 1.6, you don't need Dashie anymore. You are downgrading by installing it.Just redownload a clean version and play that, your saves are kept, don't worry.I remember adding a warning about that on the Dashie page, but I can't see it now. I must've forgotten to port it when I moved some other mods.
>>42712050maybe move fully ported over mods to a separate section? Legacy or something.
>>42712057 >>42712050 >>42712022 I added the warning back, and once I have the time, I'll create a legacy tab.
I wanna antagonize everyone in the VN and just be a total dick just to see what happens but can't bring myself to harming ponies. Can anybody else do it for me?
>>42712192Anon I did the same thing and I had to back out. I had to kill Derpy and her last words were the cutest fucking thing I almost died inside.
>>42706451>>42710653At this point I've never sent a perfect file. That's weird though since she works on my end. Im always fucking it up lmfao
>>42712236Yeah no I sent her with the sunburst tag ffs
>>42697610https://chub.ai/characters/Kadon/skies-of-equus-044b2006bc9eUpdated Skies of Equus. Finally got rid of those sloppa greetings that have been bothering me and actually wrote some.First one has you showing up for your interview aboard the mane 6 ship. Second one has you a prisoner aboard a griffon vessel about to make your escape.
>>42712226Did you modify the character list so she won't appear again after that?
>>42712296nice, thanks!how well does the ship hp etc thing work? it never seemed to for me on the old version, could be something in my preset or setup butchering it, though
>>42712308Gotta be honest, I never tested the HP part extensively beyond the percentage actually updating based on events. Which part of it didn't work for you?
>>42712319>Which part of it didn't work for you?it never showed the values anywhere, and either I never took damage, or not enough to be an issue, so it felt it was ignoring the system entirely and just doing narrative heavily weighted in the users favor
>>42712050>>42712098Oh shit, thank you. That makes a lot of sense then, I remember seeing Dashie's features getting added in and I was wondering what the point of it was, but still downloaded it anyways. Good on you for keeping it around for historical reasons, and for people using old versions I suppose too.
>>42712329Huh, that's strange, the instructions are inserted very low so they should show up. Which model?You could try switching pic related from User to System (the cog icon)
>>42712342>>42712329Also you can try editing some of the replies and adding the stats into a few yourself, so the AI will pick up on it.
Also speaking about EquestrAI, is there a way for me to edit character personalities? Deepseek tends to make Pinkie just a little too goofy, and while that's fun, I liked her being able to be just slightly down-to-earth sometimes like in earlier seasons rather than just silly constantly, and I honestly kinda feel like that lends itself to better storytelling too. I tweaked a Pinkie card to be a little more like that in SillyTavern and I absolutely loved the results; any way I can do that in this?
>>42712450 In the CoreCharacters folder, you'll find folders for the Mane 6. If you look at Twilight, she has a character.json, but Pinkie doesn't. That's because the characters already have some info built into the code itself, but as a user, you can overwrite it by creating a character.json for them. Twilight's file is there as an example. So, you can create a character.json for Pinkie and just add a name + description field. Name her "Pinkie Pie," and in the description, write what you want the AI to understand about her personality and traits. It'll be sent automatically every time you have a discussion or scene with her. Example: { "name": "Pinkie Pie", "description": "What you want here"}You can also add sprites, remove some etc. it will be automatically detected.
>>42712485Thanks! I'll give that a go, was looking at the character files myself and wondering about that. I'm guessing the custom characters that don't have character info are baked into the game as well? And does this completely override them or does it combine it with the info that's already in the game, and am I able to see said info that's built into it somehow?Sorry for the bunch of questions, as you can tell I am still pretty new to the idea of tweaking the game.
>>42712501 >I'm guessing the custom characters that don't have character info are baked into the game as well? No. Custom Characters aren't in the code at all, they're just external files. It was made so anons can create them without going into the code at all.If you don't see descriptions for them, it simply means that: 1) The anon who made the character trusts the AI enough to know who it is without a description. Big models like Gemini, for instance, already know a lot about MLP, so you don't always need to specify colors or personality traits. Models already know who Luna or Fluttershy are. 2) They left it open for the user to add their own headcanon. >And does this completely override them or does it combine it with the info that's already in the game? It overrides for CoreCharacters, but there's basically nothing there to begin with, I mostly let the models do their thing. So if you want to tweak things or add your own headcanons, go ahead.
>>42708113Share it
>>42712592It doesn't even have an avatar.
>>42712616Wouldn't be the first time someone here shared a .json card.
>>42712671we're not doing shit, what's going on in /g/?
>>42712616bathe her and bring her to me.
>>42712691Aren't we mad at them because they're also using a proxy?
>>42712710nah
>>42712691Anon. The hell are you doing replying to such low quality bait?
Kek'd. I'm testing the RPG Companion extension and my arousal stat did in fact rise from 30 to 50 during a previous Fluttershy scene. Did not expect Ponk to actually bring it up.
>>42712754I would call bullshit if it wasn't Ponk.
>>42712754NPCs aren't supposed to have such knowledge, but there is no way for the AI to actually differentiate between what it writes for NPCs and for other stuff.
>>42712773Yeah, though I appreciate that Claude has only made Ponkers specifically acknowledge it. So far anyway.
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>>42712818Do an orgy. It's the only way.
Guys, I'm starting to think this dating show isn't really a dating show...
>>42712934 Kek. It's been a long time since I’ve been hit by the Zalgo.
>>42712934zalgo he comes
>>42711710Longcat is free use if you dont mind chingchong models and want something more... spicy than google.
>>42712983Cute
>>42712691someone crosslinked the gemini 3 logs here there
>>42713195someone also spammed links to seaking too
>>42713219>fa/g/gots ruining shit and depleting resourceslow iq board at it again
I just love her soo much man, I hope the bring Chrysalis into the story their going with vn, I want her... I just fucking need her bros.
>>42711481Nice!
I found an LMArena script, so I'm sharing it here. Works with direct chat models like Claude and others, and with Battle mode too, so you can have Gemini 3 on Tavern, but you need to find it first on the random roulette, and it can be rare. It's quite sloppy and you need a TamperMonkey script installed, but it does work well, even if I'm sure there is better. Supports prefill too. Guide included.It's not mine and I won't provide technical guidance or updates if it gets fixed, so don't ask in the thread. I'm not the anon who posted logs.https://pastecode.io/s/ikj0qgndPassword is the somewhat 'recent' funny Lyra meme. All lowercase. Will be here for one day.
>>42713844Nice, I like solving passwords!
>>42713844 I was told for the longest time lmarena didnt support prefill. It's nice to know that's not the case
>>42713844Sorry if I’m sounding stupid, but which recent Lyra meme are you referring to exactly? The plush meme, the sitting down meme, or the jar meme?
>>42713844Just to be clear, there are no spaces in the password? It can't be that 'recent', can it? Because I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track here, but I keep getting it invalid. Also, seconding >>42713907
>>42713907 >>42713915 There are no spaces, all lowercase. Won’t say more. Should be easy if you visit the board a bit.Maybe I’ll go with a mail + "send me logs" option after this.
>>42713960Hmm. I don't really visit as often as I used to, so it'll be tricky. A mail would be nice.Also, if you're the same guy who posted the gemini cli thing months back, thanks.
I’m literally combing through TVTropes and Desuarchive to find the answer. So far, I have not been successful.
>>42713986>>42713984The Gemini slop script one was a little easier considering the "hotter" (heh) hint.
>>42713996I’m just about to give up. I tried literally everything and yet nothing works. The earliest mention of a funny Lyra meme on desuarchive was in March. Even then, there’s nothing connecting it.
>>42714009Well, I did try the anniversary thread before I realized going through 30,000+ posts would be extremely painful.
>>42714012You're a big nig
>>42714058For you.
>>42712098Made me smile. Thanks for keeping it on the site and for the kind words.I actually started working on a calendar mod with all of Equestria’s events built in, with average temps, seasonal weather, and custom user events for birthdays or anything I missed. I was thinking of calling it Dashie’s Calendar, kek. I got lazy and stopped before I could clean up the UI and add a proper way for users to change the default date, but I might pick it back up so there’s a non-deprecated Dashie mod.
>>42713986Not him so I won't post any hints, but while it is a very popular thing that anyone using the board should recognize, it's also pretty /mlp/-specific and not easily searchable.
>>42713844got it on first try. is this really the most recent meme for lyrafags? grim.
I found a really fun 'jb' for 4.5, turn everthing off except for the chat history, then use this for your authors note, set it for Before Main Prompt / Story String as system with insertion freq 1https://files.catbox.moe/i8u1j1.txtbeen having a ton of show accurate encounters with this both sfw and nsfw, it does both amazingly and seamlessly all perfectly in character
>>42714182Holy shit... this implies the night is old now.
>>42714182>the morning
>>42714156>>42714138Well, it's got me stumped. Guess it's on me for not being around often but nonetheless I'm enjoying the hunt, though I think it's time for me to rest. I think I'll try my hand at drawfagging later.
>>42714182Funny you posted this at noon
>>42714209It was literally at 6am Anon
>>42714213...huh. Can't say I was expecting to see someone with the same timezone here.
How often does Opus6 anon check his mails?
>>42714274Hi Anão.Our timezone is....kinda specific I suppose, while at the same time not at all telling for those outside.Could unironically work as a secret location identifier that only >we would get.
>>42714349Not that often
>>42714400Guess I'll have to be patient, then. Still, the fact that anon is hosting in the first place is really nice of him.
>>42714412Yep. I wish there was some way to donate to him.
skillgod out of Gemini keys?
I have been away from several months. what are the confirmed "real" models on Opus 6? Are Gemini/Chorbo at least real not scuffed versions?
>>42714431yeah for a while now
>>42714443do not know about chorbo, but gemini feels kinda scuffed.
>>42714445what do you mean for a while? i used it like an hour ago
>>42714453really? it never worked for me when I it tried for the past week
>>42714451I can't generate any responses with chorbo at all unlike other accesses to chorbo so I feel it's scuffed
>>42714412Two weeks went by and the minute I sent another I got a reply. Possibly just got lucky but if you haven't sent another email give it another try.
>>42714462I sent my mail out yesterday, so it's a little too early for that. I'll stay patient and wait for at least a week, I don't want to be annoying after all.
which model is recommended for summarization and suggesting lorebook entries?and what proxy etc would be the best method for that model?i'm using claude for the roleplay, but think I should do the rest with a different model so it can run in the background without sharing the same ratelimit
>>42714713Gemini is pretty good at lorebook entries in my experience.
>>427147134.5 is pretty good at it. I currently got caught on a turbo autism non pony card which has to keep track of a fuck ton of shit, and Claude does a great job at summarising. Just tell it something like >[Make a detailed summarisation of the story in plain text in a way that would allow you to start from this point in a new chat. Include important events, characters and the current scene.] It does it pretty well and you can just copy it to a new chat. If it has too much shit to keep track of it takes a long time, and when it happens it gets a forced stop and you get aj unknown error. Either try again or tell it to ignore specific moments, like damage calculations. If you need too much stuff, you tell it exactly what parts to summarise, copy the result somewhere, delete the answer, edit to summarise a different part and copy it and so on. Then start a new chat and paste what you created, and it will generally continue pretty well with minimal losses, but fair warning, it racks up your per-message token count, and you need to do this shit often.
Hello /chag/. I heard this was the *good* chatbot general. I just came by to say hello. Hopefully I will blend in well here even if I'm not a brony.
>>42714740I do something very similar, though I avoid the word summarization and use "recap" instead. Dunno if it really matters but that big Claude rentry says summary is a bad word.
>>42714759>Summary is a bad word.Didn't know, will try using recap
>>42714727>Gemini is pretty gooddoes it still have major reliability issues?>>42714740which card? sounds interesting to steal mechanics fromand i'm working on an extension to automate summaries/lorebooks etcit sounds like you have lots of experience with this.I would be most interested in your ideas - outline end to end exactly how you would like summaries/lorebooks to be created automatically in the background as the roleplay goes on
>>42714755Alright, we have a questionnaire to determine if you're alright1) Name up to three of favourite ponies.2) explain why.3) what do you think about Twilight Sparkle getting wings?4) what is wrong with humanity in your opinion?5) verbally acknowledge superiority of horse pussy 6) post a picture of a cute mareDo that and you'll most likely fit in.
The card link (non-pony, explicit)https://chub.ai/characters/AnonTheAmazing/malepov-breeder-s-quest-forge-of-dynasties-1e6236981e43It's complex and consistent, and 4.5 keeps track of every damn system really well. Mare picrel to compensate the sin
>>42714806Meant for >>42714783
>>42714790nta but i'll bite. used to be a brony from 2012-20141) Queen Chrysalis (ik it's not technically a pony but she hot), Rainbow Dash (my favorite from back in the day, iwtcird)2) Bug pussy, hot design. Rainbowdash's Tomboy personality has always been enjoyable to me3) Hated it back when it happened, now I'm indifferent about it4) greed from those who already have everything5) muscular horse pussy is the ideal vessel to drain your balls into
>>427147901) Flutteryshy, Twilight Sparkle, and Pinkie Pie2) Why? Because all the cool bronies I've seen around 4chan who escaped containment always likes these ones so they must be cool too.3) Going from a pony to a pegasus is obviously an upgrade4) Humanity is shit because they force others to comply with rules they themselves will not follow5) Well... I've dabbled in centaur pussy on occasion but I guess that doesn't count?6) picrel
>>42714834Solid mare choices, though mainstream, your reasoning is iffy but... >Going from pony to a Pegasus SHE IS A UNICORN SHE GOT WINGS AND TURNES TO AN ALOCORN THIS IS THE EASIEST TERMINOLOGY, HOW CAN YOU FUCK THIS U->partaken in centaur pussy...alright. you have *potential*, anon.
>anon didn't comment on mineshaking and crying rn
>>42714904I figured testing a seasoned veteran wouldn't be as fun as hazing a newfag, no?
>>42714908fair enough!
>>42714790NTA again, but I'll answer.1. Applejack, Fluttershy.2. AJ is a big favorite for me. Southern accents have always gotten me hard as fuck as it's especially fitting since I'm a southerner myself. Besides, farmgirls will always be the best. Fluttershy kind of reminds me of myself in a way, and she cute too.3. Indifferent to it, but I like her non-wing design better.4. This is a hard one. There's a lot I don't like about folks right now, but to keep it short, I'll just go with the general greed and ignorance.5. Horse pussy is far stronger and tighter than any other. Or so I've heard. You won't go back to regular ones once you've had one but I've always liked ponuts more.I'm still not up to date on the memes or culture of this board, which tracks with me getting filtered by that pastecode. I only started coming around the time /chag/ was a thing, and had a middling interest thanks to Fallout Equestria, but I'm starting to watch FiM. Wouldn't be the first time I started getting invested in something just to fap better.But still, I enjoy posting here. It was fun to pop in for the anniversary.
>>42711481 Added: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Rosey%20Ring.png >>42712296 And updated: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Skies%20of%20Equus.png Thank you a lot, anon.
Do you think we're currently in the plateau of this hobby?
Damn, no comment on mine either. Was it that bad?
>>42715276I'll comment on it.AJ is a very nice mare, probably my mare of choice for a best friend among the Mane 6Twilight IS aesthetically more pleasing as a simple unicorn, that's just a factNo pussy like mare pussy. Ponuts must be really pleasant to the touch I think
>>42715265Seems so. I'm just trying different scenarios in the VN. If anyone has Sora and wants to see if it can make videos of our scenarios, that'd be cool.
>>42715265Things are pretty calm right now. It's alright.
>>42711481She's cute.
>>42715774cute little log. while you're at it, you care to share your ST theme? I like collecting them as much as i like collecting all types of cards and yours looks rather pleasing.
>>42715840It's the>pastebinone from: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
Orion and lithium got removed from lmarena, (but apparently it still works if you already have a chat with it?)
>>42716024G3mini tomorrow then!
>>42714009I found it pretty easy with the archive by literally searching "lyra meme" lol bit of trial and error but it's there. They say recent but I'm pretty sure the post that I found was from last year.
>>42716036Were you here when stonebloom and wolfstride? lmao
>>42715321She's my mare of choice for a wife. If your dream ain't having a headstrong girl like her to build a farm and family with, then you simply ain't right, boy.
>>42715265Definitely harder to keep interest when you have spitefags actively ruining public free proxies
So I got access to free Google Cloud credits and activated the Vertex stuff. I can use the Gemini models in ST with it but there's nothing in the dropdown for Partner models. I really wanna use Claude and even got approved to use it in the garden thingie but no idea how to access it in ST. Do I have to set up my own khanon proxy or something? I'm pretty techlet, ngl.
>>42716048>then you ain't right, boythis raises the question, is AJ a propanepatrician or a charcoalcuck?
>>42716067What would they even grill? Veggie burgers? Zucchini?
>>42716080yaks
>>42714904>>42715276My net was shit. Neither of you look like newfags to me
>>42716063 >there's nothing in the dropdown for Partner models Never tried Vertex, but if you go into the public folder and open index.html, press CTRL+F and search for: model_vertex Add: <option value="Claude4.5">claude-sonnet-4-5</option> Like in the picrel, you should then be able to select it. Not sure if it’ll work that way, but it’s worth a try. By the way, how’s the procedure for the free trial?
>>42716043>>42713844kek, i get it now. how long til it's gone, anyways? it seems to have gotten some... attention
>>42716131I'll give it a shot, thank you!As for the procedure, you just go into the Google Cloud console or whatever and they should offer you a trial with $300 of credits. You have to give them a payment option, though. Like a debit/credit card or direct bank account.
>>42716131>>42716152Doesn't work unfortunately, gives 502 Bad Gateway. I even tried to use the actual GCP model name but no dice.
Do you incorporate your field of work into your RP? Maybe just to see if the AI knows any niche professional stuff?
>>42716219The 502 was because I forgot to remove my proxy info... derp. But it gives a 400 for either one. The error looks like it's pointing to the google provider endpoint still despite having the Claude model name.
>>42716257I'm a writer, so I incorporate it by making posts that don't suck.
>>42716298Writer? like an actual, professional one? How's that going for you?
bros /aicg/ has figured out your password and will spite your proxy
>>42716257I'm a doctor, so I spend most of my roleplays as a healer, cleric, physician, shaman, etc. I don't do any high level medical dramas but I might drop some medical knowledge if I want to btfo a character in an argument every once in a while.
>>42711481>>42715774
>>42716423damn, but what if I turn the power on my toaster down?
Human bros...
Sillyspoon, if you're around, your inbox is full. Might wanna get a new mail.
>>42716698I wonder if the current spitefag meta is to just spam him slop hoping for a key
>>42716698>>42716724ugh then there may be a good chance my mail got buried rip
>>42716257No, I don't.
>>42714102That sounds fucking awesome! I'd love something like that. Sounds super immersive.
kind of an specific a question. Sonnet 3.7 vs 4.5 which one, in your opinion, is better for the Otto preset? Also 3.7 vs 4.5 which is better for long RPs?
>>>/g/106987352
>>42717179It could be placebo, but IMO 4.5 seems more stable for longer RPs. As for Otto, I remember 3.7 having more varied starts than 4.5, which would make 4.5 the better receiver.
Why are we stealing resources from /g/ if we hate them so much?
>>42713844Anon, if you're still here, you might want to delete it
>>42717382If he does delete it now, I hope he posts how many views that file got before it was gone. I'm really curious about how many active anons lurk this place.
already got it, gonna spite the FUCK out of it
>>42717397yeah. it does not help that they removed the ip counter for whatever reason, either. but with how slow this place is sometimes, i imagine not much.
>>42717397 39 Probably 2–3 of those are from me.
>>42717397
>>42717399
>>42717407Think I viewed it at least two times myself.
>>42717403Yeah, the numbers won't be 1-to-1 as they could be especially since I'm also responsible for 3 views myself but it's a neat piece of data nonetheless. >>42717407Thank you anon. Genuinely appreciate it.
I had to google this, apparently it's a location from a comic. Still working on it being less of an assistant and more of a database with no emotions. Any tips?
>>42717422>Respond factually and concisely, without commentary, emotion, or conversational filler.?
>>42717418 >>42717416 Keep in mind you need to change IP for the view count to go up. If you visit twice with the same one, it won’t count.
>>42717426I miss when Opus-3 didn't need any instructions and just had it all under control right away
>>42717434Yeah, I viewed it on my 'puter and my phone when I was in the car, I believe.
>>42717434Oh. Then please disregard what I said about it being 3 views on my part.
>>42717426That only made it worse/
>>42717455perchance your preset may influence things by stating it's roleplay and such.
>>42697681Any particular reason why Gemini has such a hard time pulling Celestia's sprites when she appears in a conversation? It's extremely rare for her sprites to actually pop up, while with Luna it's almost a guaranteed appearance.
>>42717457Well the last thing I wanna do is to try to configure that mess. I may be a PC user but I prefer when everything works right out of the box.
>>42717463just turn off everything except char description and chat history
>>42717467Only to turn it all back on when I wanna talk to a mare? No thank you! Maybe I'll just share the card with you all and let you take better care of it, like an unwanted child.
/g/ has created a proxy
>42717309the main reason to hate /aicg/ is because soiniggers who set up camp. they're the same ones spitefagging necrom. /mlp/ has always crosslinked proxies
>>42717567>NOOOO DON'T SPITE NECROMWhy not though? He was an attentionwhore / avatarfag and couldn't even fix it.
>>42717576it isn't necrom, they spite everything that they can, then blame 'locusts' see >>42716326 >>42716724 >>42717399
>>42717567 Stop being retarded and replying to them.
>>42717580>>42717567anon you're replying to a schizo, just let it pass
>>42717584Well it's not like it's going to go on for the whole thread, I said what I wanted to and thats the end of it.
gee /chag/, how come your mom lets you have FOUR anchors
>>42717655 I think you can count the Nightmare Night event as one too.
>>42717655Anon, don't you know? Ponies is serious business.
>>42713844thanks anon, i enjoyed it for a bit but it seems everyone and their mothers are aware of lmarena. by the way, did you write the gemini cli thing a while back? just checking, because if you did you might have more of a reason to get a mail.
going to make a dedicated preset for summarization. recommendations for settings?
>>42712934circled back with a fresh run.after gaslighting, gatekeeping, and girl bossing, i've bested voidthing cadance.she couldnt beat the >rape
>Swipe left>Provider returned error>Swipe left>Provider returned error>Swipe left>Provider returned error>Swipe left>A response is successfully written>Swipe left>Provider returned error>Swipe left>Rate-Limit exceeded: Free model usage per day. Please add more credits to continue.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOpenrouter isn't working for me anymore, what's the current best way to get some good smutbots around here?
>>42717759>what's the current best way to get some good smutbots around here?opus6 anon's proxy if you can get inhttps://rentry.org/sillyspoon
>>42717769Oh bitchin', do I just email them with me logged into a fimfiction account or something?
>>42699628>>42702491>>42699119I asked the botfag on /g/ and he said his script does all the work, so cardlets will still not be able to play poker.
>>42717773nta but i recommend showing that + the creation datealso something in your page to signal that it's you, won't hurt to do thati never made an account myself, planning on drawfagging something instead or sending a log with >>42711481
>>42717775Can you post his reply? I wanna see what he said
>>42717778>>Can LLMS really do poker now?>Nah the script does all the heavy workthere you go.
>>42697681Luna apparently got tired of Rarity getting to ogle her stallion for hours as he modeled for the next fashion line.
Gemini 3 news? I was memed into thinking it would release yesterday...
>>42717704 I think you can just use the same settings you normally use for RP. Some might suggest lowering the temp for more “accuracy,” but if it already works for you without logic issues during RP, it’ll work fine for that too.
>>42717743GG and cool drawing.
>>42717910december.
Hey, is "Chat Completion API: Internal Server Error" a signal that I need to swap keys?
Just looked in console and saw this as well.
>>42718147>2 monthsAre you fucking kidding me?
>>42718161It means exactly what it says. The model is receiving too many requests to handle right now and yours got rejected. You can either keep retrying, or try later when it's less overloaded.
>>42711710(me) >>42711730Already passed a mail (replying to an older one that was on topic), no response yet... Wanted to wait another day before checking here, but thought would be better do it before new bread is needed.
>>42697681How do I connect this to oogabooga I seem to have set everything right yet I still get an error?And what's the difference betweeb Equestria AI and Pony Paradise?
>>42718433Pony Pony Paradise is based and pro-skubEquestrAI is cringe and anti-skub
>>42718433 For the name: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42431780/#42440392 For local, I’m guessing you’re missing `/v1/chat/completions`. Here’s how it is for KoboldCPP.Keep in mind there’s a lot going on in the background, so I’m not sure how much a small local model can handle, but I remember an anon playing it with Nemo 12B, so it should still work.
