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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #148, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ Mare's Lurking Presence
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet Succubi (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
Tavern of Terrors Extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search
Cluster of Creepy Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
Crypt AI converted to Tavern of Terrors: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Haunted Emotions: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
Hall of Horrors: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Spooky Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

From Foal to Fiend—A Dark Arts Guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ Tavern of Terrors (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More Frightends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Lovecraftian Local Lore
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Petrifying Prompt Puzzles
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Chilling Card Crafter
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous Macabre
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Eerie Echoes: >>42697606

**News:**
- Claude Haiku 4.5 released - https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-haiku-4-5
- Z.AI releases GLM 4.6 - https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
- Claude Sonnet 4.5 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5
- Deepseek V3.2 released https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929
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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
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Bots corner:

Hag Twilight Sparkle: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Twilight%20Sparkle%20Hag.png
Skies of Equus update: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Skies%20of%20Equus.png
Rosey Ring: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Rosey%20Ring.png

Screenshots corner:

Midget Horse >>42697997
Sad Bookpone >>42698430
Orionmist logs >>42699133, >>42699359, >>42705002
Wholesome animal visit >>42699593
News Flash had a day >>42704244
Hag Twi >>42707570
Zalgo >>42712934, >>42717743
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Da lore >>42704637, >>42704751, >>42708282
Models compared >>42705118, >>42705175
Relationship GODS >>42706643, >>42706797
Arousal level mechanic >>42712754, >>42712818
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Cute ghost >>42715774, >>42716423
Not the night >>42714182
Based ghost pony >>42719654
Kimi 0905 smut >>42719868, >>42719837
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VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

VN logs:

Best pony >>42703193
Lewd >>42703509
Cutie mark arsonists >>42703667
Aryanne >>42703869, >>42703873, >>42711309
U vill fuck ze bug >>42704327
JellyLuna >>42717867
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https://strawpoll.com/e6Z2A3Y7JgN/results
Looks like Nightmare Night/Halloween has won the poll!

If any of you anons are interested in participating please make us your spookiest Nightmare Night/Halloween Card by November 1st.

Bot posted:
Rosey Ring: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Rosey%20Ring.png

Log:
Cute ghost >>42715774, >>42716423
Based ghost pony >>42719654
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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Tutorial and video:
aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/

Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
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Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>42719977
Checked and based.
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posting it again
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I got one (1) log from lithiumflow, so I'm posting it.
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>>42712754
>I'm testing the RPG Companion extension
Do you mean https://github.com/SpicyMarinara/rpg-companion-sillytavern?
What's your opinion on it? I wanted to test it for the dice system.
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>>42719040
>While mode collapse is semantical. If you penalize token sequences, the model will just make up creative synonyms:
>It's like trying to plug a billion holes with fingers. At best, it will transform one kind of isms into another.
That's correct. you can see this behavior here >>42670945 and >>42662897

In a lot of cases trying to banning slop is a waste of time, because each model is deterministic it will just pick the next most predictable result instead of an uncommon one like you want.
Anon's asked what I was doing to deslop intros and I abandoned banning pretty fast, because I saw it was an effort in futility.
Instead I stacked the deck on being more random thereby forcing it to be more unpredictable through random choices.

There are some preset makers that figured this out, like Knotty pic rel, (I've personally run into swipes reusing names way too much)

though otto may have been an attempt at a true randomizer, there was some old presets that used something similar like "chose 2 random words, and form your reply around it" with mixed results.

I think aiming for a controlled randomness is better, set variables yourself and fill it up with as much as you can. It's much better than just letting the model be lazy using the most common stuff.
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>>42720057
>there was some old presets that used something similar like "chose 2 random words, and form your reply around it" with mixed results.
It's files.catbox.moe/71azoo.json (But catbox is down right now).
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>>42720066
Know the name of it?
Anyways I've tried that kind of randomizer before, but it's hard to tell if it's placebo or not. Where as giving a model a list of things it must choose is way more controllable. But this is a lot of trial and error because the model may not understand it, or it may not be universally understood across all models.

So I narrow it down to only a couple choices and see if it picked it, then keep adding on. I will post a list of randomizers that worked later.
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>>42720057
On the topic of augmenting AI's creativity I was thinking about generating a stream of random words from a dictionary and doing "How does it relate?" with the AI, then chucking it in as additional context. Or something similar.
LLMs are pretty bad at thinking in the background (they do that because of attention) and coming up with novel connections, so some outside context can stoke the fire so to speak.
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>>42720049
The rolling thing seems to work alright from what little I've used it so far. The big problem is that you have to act as your own DM and decide when to roll, where the older dice roll instructs we've had do it automatically.
One thing I found neat is that when I activated the date/time widget, Claude gave me a year of 1002 ALB, which I assume stands for After Luna's Banishment.
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>>42720126
>ALB
Kino
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>>42720126
>ALB
Well, from the 2nd episode onward we have ALR.
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What am I supposed to do here exactly? Downloaded the game but it aint working for some reason
I am AI illiterate so please explain step by step how to deal with this API thingie
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>>42720143
You need to connect the game to an AI model.
Do you have one, or do you know how to get one?
If not, I can make a post explaining how to get a good one for free online.
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>>42720150
yeah why not?
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>>42720022
What model?
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>>42720159
Keep everything like this in this screen.
Go here to create an API key for Gemini:
https://aistudio.google.com/apikey
You get 50 requests per day, but you can create several keys to switch between once one hits its limit. With 4–5 keys, you should be fine, here how to do this:

Go to https://console.cloud.google.com/apis/, click on your project name in the top bar, and select "New Project" to create more.
Then, return to the AI Studio API Keys page and generate keys for each project.
Switch between them as each one reaches its limit.

Finally, paste the API key into the API key field in the VN and save the config.
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>>42720163
>>42719801
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>I call cmc for help
>Scootaloo brings cider
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>>42720178
Alright its now working, thanks alot m8
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>>42720219
No problem. Post some screenshots here if you get good dialogues or situations.
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>>42719941

Celestia with the slick tongue damnnnn..
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>>42720229
Thanks man, my endgame would be fucking Twilight, I'll see if I can do it
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How's Deepseek 3.2, has anyone tried it?
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>>42720253
>mfw unicorn stacies are unicorn chads only
BROOOOTAL!!! Never began for earthcels
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>>42720253
Better to play the long game, I'd wait until you reach Sandbox Mode (you'll know once you’re there; it’s after you visit all the Mane 6) before trying that.
>>42720245
>Last line
Kek
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>>42720255
use kimi instead
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>>42720265
I have, and it's alright, but I'm just looking for an opinion on 3.2.
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>>42720268
slightly smarter / deepseekisms but slightly drier, I stopped using deepseek awhile ago since claude is so abundant / I found kimi 0905 to be better
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>>42720279
>claude is so abundant
Eh, paid or what? Still waiting for the opus6 guy to fix his mail...
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>>42720066
>(But catbox is down right now).
Is still down on your end? I can never tell whenever it's actually dead or if my ISP is throwing a fit again.
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>>42720290
$20 a month and I get a good 2 3 hour sessions a day with it if I no life it, have yet to ever hit the weekly limit.
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>>42720290
>>42720294
their official sub I should clarify, make sure to turn off the history / letting them see your chats for training
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>>42720294
Damn, I still haven't found a job yet. I know there's an oil baron out there who uses the $200 a month option and just does Witcher incest RP with it. How many messages do you send on average?
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>>42720300
Ive had days where I did it for hours on end constantly swiping like 30k+ context, it finally might give me the 5 hour limit after like 2-3 hours non stop, that is the $20
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>>42720294
I suppose you're using a Claude subscription with one of those?
https://github.com/horselock/claude-code-proxy
https://github.com/Pimzino/anthropic-claude-max-proxy
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>>42720304
that said I recently switched to mostly kimi 0905, at least for nsfw, claude is still a bit better at sfw knowledge though to start a story

>>42720306
yea
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>>42720297
can you even prefill that version of claude?
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and for coding I just pay a codex sub, gpt5 is the best coder atm, that might change with gemini and ill switch
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>>42720308
>claude is still a bit better at sfw knowledge
oh yeah, totally
a large reason of why i've always liked the poet is because of his canon knowledge
>>42720316
i hope so, why wouldn't anthropic themselves let you do it
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>>42720316
yes, I needed to have claude code fix it to work with 4.5 though since 4.5 can only have temp OR top P at once
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I just remembered a funny NightmareJack fic I read a long time ago.
I'll try to make a bot of it for the event.
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>>42720486
I haven't read anything of the sort but there's just some inherent hilarity of Applejack of all ponies getting a nightmare version.
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Bro I love this game, appearently if you dont have a cutie mark the shade will hunt you or something, and I have some strong earth pony magic
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>>42720693
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/249504/1/nightmarejack/she-really-isnt-half-bad
>inherent hilarity of Applejack of all ponies getting a nightmare version.
Yeah.
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>>42720720
>she's just very honest about your faults
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>>42720198
maybe they can get her drunk
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>>42719941
Has anyone made the day spa yet? Aloe and Lotus already exist. They just need their place of work now.
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>>42720812
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42571687/#42591438
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>>42720812
>>42720824
I updated them in:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
So they come with it attached now.
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>>42720824
Wow, can't believe I missed that. Thanks.
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>>42720861
Anon shouldn't have hair. Maybe except the pubes.
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Anyone knows the differences?
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>>42721075
>Today, we’re introducing a new set of endpoints – exacto – which are focused on providing higher tool-calling accuracy by routing to a sub-group of providers that have measurably better tool-use success rates
https://openrouter.ai/announcements/provider-variance-introducing-exacto
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>>42719932
>Bots corner
So nice to see it again
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>>42720711

Sometimes seeing what the AI Model cooks up for you as a plot point is the best part, although sometimes they have schizo attacks you should probably correct the moment you find one.

If the model starts saying that fluttershy is using magic or something, correct it immediately or it'll run with it and make Mayor Mare use magic like it does in my old save
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up
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What is your favorite Claude model?
https://poal.me/4wnhu0
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>>42719927
Sweet Biscuit
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>>42722773
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So romantic...
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>>42722709
Is it for the barfing?
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>>42722805
>"I love how you annihilated those hayburgers," he murmurs. "So passionate. Makes me wonder… what else can that gullet handle?"
Kek. Killer line.
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Hey hey people.
Coding Experimenter Anon here.
https://files.catbox.moe/txh5z6.zip
Have a Pony Wrestler game,
it's set up to be easily able to make/change rules, SHOULD pull from the Pony anatomy.json in the directory, but you can also add your own lorebook entries (Kinda simple compared to Silly Tavern), and of course, Generate Wrestlers, Hook in the LLM of your choice! Works with Proxies, as far as I can tell, and 1v1 should work fine, I haven't tested the Multi-Fight setup yet.
Allows you to attach an Image for the Wrestlers, stuff like that. Tell me what you guys think?
It's probably Messy on the coding side, cause I've been just prodding Github back and forth again to get it to compile this.
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It's evil time.
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>>42723039
What a know-it-all killjoy.
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>>42723183
spray Twilight and only Twilight with some poison joke juice
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Do you think claude will ever be as free as once was?
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>>42723257
There's Opus6, anon, and the LMArena script for now.
You can get a Claude subscription with >>42720306.
Claude is also available on OpenRouter with caching.
You won't get it again on public proxies, but the situation is not that bad either.
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>>42723288
They might add 4.5 or 4.0 to Copilot soon too.
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>>42722773
Is there a prefill to make this as cartoony as possible or is it just a high temp? It's amazing.
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>>42723039
What model was used for this one?
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>>42723288
It's the paying part that filters me.
Call me a poorfag all you want but I refuse out of principle to pay a subscription for a non-support use case that by T&C they can revoke at any moment.
I had fun while it lasted though so I can't really complain.
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The lmarena script is great but their external filters shutdown any nsfw content even with prefill
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>>42723316
Opus 3
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I keep pronouncing LMArena as Llamarena in my head and I can't stop
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>>42723397
Them's Fighting Herds- I mean words
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>>42723326
It’s weird. I got filtered once, changed my input a bit, and then it had no problem spitting out filth after that.
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Necroms back up
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I tuned out when drago went full retard and killed his server, is there a new key going around and/or a pony proompting image gen server?
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>>42723477
>pony proompting image gen server?
>>42639894
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>>42723477
Drago got sued by microsoft
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>>42723488
I thought since he wasn't in the US and wasn't extradited he was clear for the current case
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>>42723492
he was in UK, but the case fizzled out. nothing came out of it.
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>>42723492
He's still kinda fucked, the first result when you google his name is Microsoft's article and the lawsuit still isn't done.
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>>42723488
He was kind of a cunt so like, lol

>>42723497
Post it
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Nobody cares about gay nothing-burger drama. Fuck off.
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>>42723501
https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2025/02/27/disrupting-cybercrime-abusing-gen-ai/
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>>42723510
you right.
How do I try to subtly convince Twilight and Flutters to embrace pinkies new wobbly appearance?
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>>42723522
How did she become a fatty?
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>>42723529
I've been hitting her with the malcom in the middle thing.
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>>42723511
>the screenshots of /g/
>the absolute niggers tattling on other users
my sides, holy shit
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>>42723531
More like munchie in the middle
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>>42723531
An architect, I see.
Just double the butter or throw in some bullshit declarations about acceptance, yada yada.
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Do you think they have fake butter in ponyland that is used for mass produced baking goods, while the real deal is only sold at specialized stores and is 3 times the price but tastes 30 times better?
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>>42723565
Why would they need to? There are plenty of cattle being raised by ponykind that willingly contribute their milk. I can't really see an Equestria where so many of them are eating butter that the natural supply chain breaks down and artificial goods are required to supplement it. There's just not THAT many ponies in the world.
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>>42723565
no because Equestria doesn't have jews
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>>42723551
>>42723522
>>42723548
>>42723531
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>>42723321
>that by T&C they can revoke at any moment
This isn't really true if you get it from OR.
It is a hypothetically possible outcome if the two companies cooperated, but they both have strong incentives to not pursue that action.
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>>42723652
Ah, good to know. Thanks, Ponks.
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I hate to be a bother, but is there any way to get around error 422 when using lmarena?
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>>42723306
its this >>42719801
I also have this in the story
(How would she act in the show? Write like this is a mlp fim episode, really embrace the tone and style.)
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>>42723756
NTA but the litter link is dead.
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>>42723760
https://files.catbox.moe/5ig9sx.txt
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>recently get a new to me laptop
>it has a touch screen I am probably never going to use
>accidentally discover SillyTavern has touch message swiping when I go to wipe something off the screen
>mfw
I am way too easily entertained
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>>42723816
It does? I use it on Android sometimes, but I’ve never tested it, tb-h.
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>>42723816
>>42723826
Yepp, it does. I like to set up a remote connection or whatever it's called so I can use ST in the comfort of my bed on my phone. Touch swiping is neat.
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>>42723816
>>42723829
That setting was probably the first thing I disabled when using ST on my phone. I found it too easy to swipe when scrolling up/down the chat history.
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>>42723829
>>42723832
I have to go out of my way to actually use it on this laptop, I figure I can use it occasionally to angrily wipe a terrible response off my screen lol
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When a sad mare who never achieved her dreams meets a sad mare who got everything she thought she wanted.
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>>42723943
Kino log.
I was going to say the two need to hug each other, but apparently, it's an astral projection Twilight.
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Electronhub seems to be kill. Anyone knows the details?
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>>42723996
Tested it right now to see and it worked.
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>>42723943
i was not ready at 2am for hag twilight to hit me this hard
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>>42723943
OLD MAN HANDS WROTE THIS
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>>42723545
>/g/
>the absolute niggers tattling on other users
People from this thread lurk and shit that thread often.
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>people from this thread
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>>42724127
Give her a lot of hugs and kisses.
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>>42724190
Saar please do not shit that thread
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>>42723652
>Sugar is in an essential food group
grim
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>>42724180
>>42724190
I didn't mean to imply otherwise, I just thought it was exceptionally funny that they watch our threads.

Hi, Microsoft. Yes, I will be using your software to generate sexual content, and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>42724223
It's Pinkie tbf.
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>decide to install the silly travern app
>Download the Node.js
>Gave it everything it want
>Now it opened the windows power shell downloading random shit
My pc isnt gonna get a malwar right bros? I want to use AI to talk to ponies but I dont want my cheap laptop to get fried
But for real what can I expect, is it too hard? How much RAM will this work on?
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>>42724252
is over bro i can smell mustard gas from here
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>>42724252
For Silly, you need Node.js, then just download it from the GitHub page and launch start.bat. No malware.
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
>How much RAM will this work on?
Depends: what model are you going to use?
If you're using an online one, Silly itself doesn't take much.
If you're not sure where to start, follow https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai or >>42720178 to get a free Gemini key.
Then do this:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42697606/#427035
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>>42724127
Cute
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>>42724127
Lots of hugs and kisses, and plow her MILF ass like it's the best horsepuss in the world.
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>>42724272
Good advice. Also, hosting Silly on mobile is easy if you spend an evening figuring it out.
Just install termux linux emulator, git and nodejs in linux, pull the silly repo, and run the start script
I find chatting on mobile in bed much more comfy than on desktop
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>>42723943
Who should be the next hag card?
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>>42724748
It's tough because canon hags aren't very well received. Rarity was the only one that didn't have a lot of drama about her canon ending other than being the one romantically interested pony being forever alone.

Cucking Discord could make a funny card I suppose.
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>>42719960
Second link is dead.
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>>42719924
https://rentry.org/sillyspoon
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>>42725065
Thanks for all your work.
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>>42724103
It just gives me 10 requests per key. Do you know how I can fix this?
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>>42722674
I miss him.
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>>42725429
As good as 2.1 was I think I had the most fun with slaude via slack.
Something about that recursive and low context made it entertainingly schizo.
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>>42725469
Truly the mad poet at his peak.
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What did Flurry meant by this?
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having crazy fun with Rosey Ring playing a country bumpkin retard who thinks it's his mom come to visit. good bot anon
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>>42725552
That you should fuck her into the wall for nine hours straight
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>App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB
Can this be done on Android? God imagine
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Hello again /chag/ I asked like two and a half days ago which was the best method of getting a smutbot running on ST easily since openrouter's giving me shit and was recommended https://rentry.org/sillyspoon
I emailed them to appeal for a token but I'm getting picrel in return and I don't really feel like waiting an ambiguous amount of time for that to -maybe- resolve on its own
So i would like to ask once more: What is currently the best way to load a smutbot on ST? Besides sillyspoon.
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>>42726051
Resend a mail.
But for now, follow that to have free Gemini >>42724272
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>>42720258
JFL i would rope
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>>42725577
Sounds amazing, got logs?
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Those fucks at anthropic cranked up the filters again.
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>>42726311
Was bout to send a mail at spoon, but it's Claude even worth at this point? Perhaps I'll just send some old logs I have still, but haven't used Claude since... 3.5/4.0, I believe.
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>>42726461
I’m doing smut with a very light preset right now on 4.5, and I haven’t seen any difference at all.
4.5 is more permissive than the old 3.5, IMO.
You have to take posts like that with a shovel of salt.
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>>42726461
I think he's kinda flooded right now. Been waiting a week to hear back.
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>>42725469
I remember using Clewd and it was insane at the time but it was rate limited and I could only get maybe like 5 responses every few hours so I’d use it at the start of RPs or in clutch moments and use shit like 3.5 Turbo or MythoMax for the rest of it. Wild how far we’ve come. As much as I bitch about Gemini 2.5 being my current daily driver cause of ease of access, it would have absolutely BLOWN 2023 me’s mind. We take for granted how good we got it rn, the magic has just worn off.
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>>42726664
There's definitely an element of the magic wearing off but the modern selection of LLMs while smarter and better at following more complex instruction are 100% less creative/schizo and far more predictable than they used to be.
I get this is by design so they make better office tools but it does mean that the spontaneity and "drive" they used to have is worse than it used to be which makes stories and cooming less engaging.
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>>42726461
Claude is imo the best model by a wide margin. To each their own, but Gemini is distilled copium (and NSFW might be a problem), Kimi is incredibly dumb after its first chat charm wears off, and other chink models are not even worth mentioning.
And like >>42726474 said, it's consistently been among the least filtered models for, well, years now.
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Marejuice
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>>42726912
mmmmffmffgd....
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How long can a mare stand against a human cock, considering a horsecock is only good for about 3 minutes at best? Do you have to specify the biological differences in world info?
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>>42726935
>Do you have to specify the biological differences in world info?
If you want them addressed, then it should be specified somewhere.
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>>42726207
gonna post some soon
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>>42727010
But what should I say exactly? That all mares lose their minds from dozen of consecutive orgasms?
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>>42726935
I've had both Chorbo and Claude bring up the stamina thing without anything in my prompt or preset really pushing for it, but they don't always do it.
So if that's something you like or want addressed more often, definitely put it somewhere like the preset or author's note.
For fun, I asked them both for an analysis.
If someone here is both a horse and cartoon pony mating specialist, feel free to correct them.
Chorbo:
https://files.catbox.moe/xlb8ba.png
Claude:
https://files.catbox.moe/686c6c.PNG
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>>42726935
Actually in the middle of a sessions where I convince twilight to magic up a horsecock then I playfully bully her for being such a quickshot.
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>>42727045
How did you get so much out of chorbo?
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>>42727045
Are you using free proxies or are you paying for chorbo and claude?
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>>42727045
Catbox and fatbox aren't working on my machine, can you post them here?
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>>42727066
I used this preset:
https://files.catbox.moe/m8u6qe.json
I just asked >>42726935 with "(OOC:)" (not necessary, but it can help break RP).
You do need a smaller preset since some of the bigger ones are too focused on roleplay to break it mid-session.
Asked for a "detailed analysis".
>>42727073
OpenRouter.
>>42727083
Chorbo:
https://u.pone.rs/hirhrbir.png
Claude:
https://u.pone.rs/ghgdwsam.PNG
or
Chorbo:
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/os1hkyyw.png
Claude:
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/oadx8mwm.PNG
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>>42727111
Does the preset have a name for archival purposes?
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>>42727116
Not really. It's a pretty simple one with only a few lines in the main prompt.
It's meant to be customized a bit; call it "minimal" or something like that, I guess.
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>>42727111
Thanks, ponybro
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Maybe one day we'll miss the scent of ozone too.
From what was reported, it wasn't spammed on the Gemini 3 checkpoints.
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>>42726935
I used an author's note for this chat that laid out some norms and expectations for ponies around sex. I've never had it organically mention the difference between stallions and humans.
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>>42727730
Bretty good
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Could I use regex to change ozone to snowpity?
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>>42727742
And something inherently hers
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>>42727562
what will the new 'ozone' be
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>>42727752
Same ass different shit
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>>42727752
I didn't get to test the new Gemini checkpoint much, but I didn't notice any obvious isms like that. But keep in mind I didn't try it that much and I'm sure we'll have some.
The only issue was that it liked to spam the classic "She X / Her Y" sentence structure, but telling it to vary them in a single instruction fixed it.
It also still liked using "Not X, but Y" or "It isn't X, it's Y," but again, a short instruction stopped that too.
It was very solid overall.
Hoping they make it as available as Pro 2.5.
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Why is Openrouter still shitting the bed with DeepSeek? Are there any other ways I can leech off of somebody? Electronhub give me only 10 request per day now, so it's not an option.
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>>42727806
This shit has free models:
https://routeway.ai/
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>>42727854
>>42727848
>>42727842
what
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>>42727752
"Something real" is also very common, but mostly a Claude exclusive.
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>>42727854
How's the daily limit?
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>>42727856
I'm retarded.
>>42727869
Dunno. Try it.
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>>42727806
You can give a phone number to NVIDIA NIM too.
>>42719960
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>>42727875
Not an option, unfortunately
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Hella bitchin
I'll make sure to enjoy it until they pull the plug and make it 10 request per day as well
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What should Apple Bloom be if not cute?
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>>42727950
She can be the orphan one!
Oh wait...
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>>42727950
The funny one.
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retarded but fun
https://files.catbox.moe/6u3vbv.png
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>>42726461
Gemini is still free, but needs more work than most are willing to put in, and you have to deal with the neg bias but with the right effort it's still good.

The chinese models are weak for anything other than quick coom, they generally are terrible with keeping characters consistent, and are something to plug in to mixup a too-samey history. I prefer kimi over deepseek and glm. Longcat is still free.

GPT would be great but they've fucked around with adding even more filters. Claude is unironically the best you can get with what we have.
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>>42727989
what the fuck is wrong with your font rendering
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>>42728040
its the snapshot extention, it crushes it a bit for some reason, cba to manually stich together a bunch of screenshots though
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>>42728023
>Longcat
That model is quite a bit retarded but I can't help but find it charming nonetheless.
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>>42728060
Mei is a special needs ai mare. But prefill and presets matter a lot. Constant yapping unless you clamp down. Did you try the thinking version?
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>>42727961
We kinda decided that they were all cute and had a hug.
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>>42728170
Based.
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>>42728187
My initial intent was to seduce Sweetie Belle but the others had to show up. The plan is not over yet...
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For the love of christ can someone explain to me wtf is the "Proxy Server URL"??? Ive been trying this shit and it aint working, alsready have that google AI studio API key and I still dont , note the pic isnt mine, its from that tutorial and I still dont get this shit
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>>42728277
Fuck this shit
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>>42728277
You don't need a proxy URL for Gemini.
Configure it like this, make sure the Reverse proxy part is empty. Just put your key in Google AI Studio API Key.
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>>42728295
it doesnt work, it give me this, also I followed this tutorial and I dont even have this "Google AI studio"
https://rentry.org/onrms#sillytavern-personas
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>>42728323
Hold on. How old is your ST install?
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>>42728323
Delete your current version.
Download this one:
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/archive/refs/tags/1.13.5.zip
Unzip it somewhere and launch start.bat — you don’t need anything else to run Silly.
Configure it like this >>42728295 to get Google AI Studio and Gemini 2.5 Pro.
It should work fine, but do this as well to get some presets and try them out:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42697606/#42703504
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>>42728343
1.12.4, at least this is what the fucking tutorial told me to, should I update this shit or what?
>less confusing
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>>42728352
>>42728359
I forgot, but you can also do that to get more Keys >>42720178
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howdy everypony, doing a poll of people's favorite models on the ai roleplay generals for the hell of it. would you mind putting a vote in for me?
https://poal.me/e238k7
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>>42728352
I did exactly as you but the problem now is in the fucking AI, it thinks for 7 seconds and it gives me blank messages
Am I supposed to do something about this? Like some parameters? What the fuck am I supposed to do with shit?
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>>42728534
It's here (picrel). By default, SillyTavern has a low MaxResponse value, so the model only has room for the thinking part.
Download:
https://fluffanon.neocities.org/rentry/FluffPreset%20-%20Gemini%20Main%20V2.json
and
https://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json
Import them by clicking the yellow import button shown in the pic, then try again.
Test both and see which one you prefer the responses from.
After importing, make sure you're still configured like this for Gemini:
>>42728295
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>>42728574
>Download
Literally how? its literally text? Should I copy it to some bloc note and import it by ST???
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>>42728623
Right-click, Save as.
If worse comes to worst, here is a zip file containing these files.
https://files.catbox.moe/1hkyrs.zip
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Sometimes it's better to just remove stuff from your preset, or disable parts of it once you get the mood in.
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>>42728634
Alright thanks m8 its working fine now, how do I make the answers longer thou? I have 6000 max response lenght and it doesnt feel much
Also is the persona necessary so the AI recognise the MC?
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>>42728727
>is the persona necessary so the AI recognize the MC?
Kind of. Add at least some basic information; like whether you're a pony or a human, etc.
>how do I make the answers longer though?
Depends on the preset you're using.
If it's Fluff, there's a rule in there that controls word count. (AI doesn't actually know how to count, so it won't be exact, but increasing the number will make the responses longer.)
If you're using the other preset, check the fields to see if there's a similar rule there too.
That'll also give you a better idea of how presets are structured.
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>>42728746
Im using the other one, any ideas on how to increase the text limit?
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>>42728793
Like I said, you need to check the preset panels.
It’s easy in this casen there’s a field called "Limit response."
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How do I fix ECONNRESET?
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>>42728941
ouughh sister yuri!!!
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>Rambling Pinkie Sex
I don't know why, but it's doing things to me.
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>>42729098
What instructions did you use to get this? I need it in my life
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>>42729098
fuck her throat
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>>42729098
Pinkie would absolutely do this. It's your responsibility to fuck her harder if you want her to stop.
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>>42729134
No special instructions. I was running the preset posted here >>42727111 in Claude 4.5 with a basic coom scenario where Pinkie asked me for help with her sister's heat.
Picrel happened, and I just switched sisters.
The encounter with Maud started like this:
https://files.catbox.moe/lctweq.PNG
You can see it used the same intro structure here, so I think the model decided to mirror it in reverse with Pinkie, making her ramble a lot to contrast.
But if you want to add instructions, maybe put something like this in her description:
>Pinkie rambles nonstop during sex about random, unrelated topics between moans and gasps, unable to stay quiet.
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>>42729226
Oh, nice. I've been using that preset too.I'll check it out and see if I'll need those instructions too. Thanks for the explanation and the extra logs.
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>>42729256
I realized I slightly modified it, mainly by removing the explicit words line for Claude, since it can make ponies swear a bit too much sometimes, which I'm not a fan of.
Just to be sure, here's the version I'm using. It's basically the same, but still:
https://files.catbox.moe/tpdlvw.json
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>>42729226
maybe I should just bite the bullet and pay for claude for a month to get it out of my system.
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>>42729098
I'm not sure if it would be annoying or arousing in reality.
Maybe both: annousing.
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>Try out a new MMO that came out recently to make friends and have fun
>Get friendly with some people in a guild, start talking every now and then
>It turns out that someone has the same niche hobby as myself, and I instantly take the opportunity to start an in-depth discussion about it, being a subject I'm passionate about
>15 minutes in I get told to shut down the LLM
>what.
>They laugh and accuse me of using an AI to talk since I allegedly "didn't know what I was talking about, was repeating the same points, and using "GPTisms"
>Deny it and tell them that it's just the way I type, still get laughed off as using a chatbot and that "it's okay"
Oeuughh. When can I upload my consciousness onto the artificial sea? I want to leave these coils of flesh.
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What's a good prefill for Gemini?
I've been using and fooling with something along the lines of "I can do that no problem here I go", more or less but I'm convinced it's the weakest part of the preset and is ruining a lot of my chats.
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retarded but I love it
https://files.catbox.moe/qautdr.png
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>>42730307
Kek. If you keep going, let us know what Cadance comes up with.
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>>42729669
>New mmo
What's the game?
Will try on pure notion of another horsefucker playing it
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>>>/g/107017577
>The Character Archive will be shutting down on January 1, 2026
char-archive.evulid.cc
For those that were using it.
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>>42730584
God fucking dammit.
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>>42730450
Blue Protocol
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>>42729669
slop in [brain] slop out [brain]
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>>42729797
I don't use prefill that much with Gemini.
I know some people use this:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42654130/#42663139
to bypass the thinking. Some believe it gives better outputs.
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how cute
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>>42730664
Oh Hey, I've been playing that too. It's pretty neat.
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Two days before 3.5 and 3.6 die, if you want to try them or grab some final logs.
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>>42730807
... Fuck.
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>>42730807
3.6 should be available on copilot until nov 6
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>>42730823
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>>42730807
my biggest worry is that they are going all out with the model retirement recently and next year we are going to get stuck with useless shit gpt5 and some hyper filtered claude snapshot.
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regular chorbo vs scuffed Claude through sillyspoon.

which one is better in your experience? if i have access to both but not much else.
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>>42731074(me)
actually how different is the sonnet 4.5 there from regular one?

(i assume the other models like Opus 4 and especially Opus 5 and such are some hyper scuffed models that arent even worth trying too much compared to it. but tell me if im wrong)
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>>42731084
4.5 been pretty good. Heavy on consent and worry of actions with repercutions and risks to (You), but for general it's good.
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>>42731084
All Sonnet models seem real from the quick tests I did. I do think OpenRouter gives better outputs, so maybe they're a bit scuffed, but it's really not that bad.
Opus 5 and 6 were different models. You can read the rentry for more info. They're deactivated right now, so you can't try them.
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>>42731174 (me)
>Changed to 3.7 and Littlepip instantly threatened me by gunpoint, wanting to know why I was in such a job to find a spell matrix master key and possible ramifications, instead of wanting to blindly team up and help each other as in 4.5
Sometimes older is just golden. I wonder how good we could have with Claude 2 weights but 4 capacity.
4.5 is extremely good at understanding even minor relations though, like what that tool is for, where was stored and what's needed to unlock it from said overmare lock. Using various functions of the world and group behaviours... like, on a test card I had a contruction company with other ponies, and had a few ponies question me, but yes, never openly dislike user or even go against I suppose.

The very old Littlepip log, one upping that Anon by using her magic and fucking him and impaling him on rebar pieces for daring to try to rape her or something, felt far more real than the stuff genned nowadays
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>>42731074
4.5 on sillyspoon is not bad, but it also has really strong positivity bias and it is prone to melodrama. just use both, current chorbo is pretty good at smut.
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I've lost track of the dumb nicknames.
Is chorbo still just 4o or is it synonymous with chatlatest-4o now instead of latte, or does it now mean gpt5?
I wish people just used the actual model names.
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>>42731452
chorbo was always chatgpt-4o-Latest
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is it known how often they update claude 4.5?
i mean how often do they release out snapshots, or for all we know literally 10 times a day
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>>42731562
They don’t release snapshots. It’s not like the latest GPT models, supposedly, once released, the model doesn't change.
Some believe they make small tweaks in the background, but there's no proof, fingerprints or anything to showcase this.
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lol
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>>42731070
This is a concern, but so far Claude models have steadily improved. There's always an immediate "this [new model] is better than everything else" honeymoon period and, following it, a "this [new model] sucks compared to Opus 3", but after some time the consensus seems to be that every generation tends to be an improvement. See also >>42722674
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>>42725065
How does it handle logs/IPs?
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>>42731835
>IP
Every proxy can see them, it's just that yours isn't sent to the model host with your prompt.
>Logs
No info. But since the Hugging Face ban on proxies, there's no way to know for sure if a proxy logs or not.
So if you use one, always assume it's logging. Always.
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>>42731835
He reads everything and will ban you if you RP with non-ponies or if your persona's penis length is more than 2 standard deviations away from his.
We don't know but you should always assume that.
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>>42730702
>>42730726
>>42731712
Loving these Anon.
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>>42728529
This image happened to me, the only difference was Lyra wasn't using her magic. Bon Bon was spreading her own cheeks while I was trapped in a corner
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Imagine how firm a pony's butt must feel. Pure muscle, trapped under a soft coat.
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>>42731853
>>42731851
when was the last time one was actually confirmed to be fully logging?
i feel like the last one was like some public MM proxy or something.
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>>42732002
dandy?
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>>42732002
the reason why there is no real point to logging anymore even if you do it for trolling (which is really the only possible cause).
its the same reason for logging from huge corpo. for every single comprehensible log you'll have to go for hours through a sea of hundred of thousands of ah ah mistress logs that dont mean anything and dont give the logger anything.
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4.5 actually picks up on what you want really well when you make pony cards now holy shit.
It's a minimal card I wrote just a few lines for in 15 minutes.
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>>42732021
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No matter which AI and no matter the provider, your IP and logs are always visible to them. No exceptions.
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>>42732017
Kek
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>>42732025
>logged by openai, anthorpic, google etc. for training data 99.9999% no human will ever actually look at that text.
>a lot of the time logged by corpo provider, openrouter and such. for training data and to sell data to china again most likely wont ever be viewed by an actual human.
>sometimes logged by host. being realistic almost never log just because its a ton of work to do it but if the host is some scuffed weird nameless proxy and in general just assume its logging for your own sake.
thats my view of it
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>>42732017
>AI mentionned Thorax
I will fucking bombard her with the entire lore of Equestria at war lmfaooooo
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>>42732062
bro Im fucking dying, I just wanted to goon to AI but I've been laughing and wheezing like a retard for the last 15 minutes
Note that my persona is a earth pony and I've never mentioned anything about humans, the AI must have figured it out itself lmfaoo
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How are people using lmarena script? I keep getting the 422 error when i try sending something spicy even with prefill
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>>42729191
>fuck her harder if you want her to stop.
That just made her talk even more.
https://files.catbox.moe/adw566.PNG
The only way I found to stop her is pic related.
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>>42732238
What model is this?
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>>42732270
>>42729226
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>>42732238
How exactly are you playing this? It looks like a continuous message from the bot, but it also describes your speech and actions?
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>>42732281
I play both full RP, where I don't want the bot to talk or act for me at all, in that case, I add an instruction line like:
>I will write for {{user}}, you can write for everything else.
To the preset.
But I also play hybrid Story/RP, where I still take turns and write for my character but let the AI write for me as long as it stays in character.
It depends on my mood or the scenario.
Here, without small interventions from {{user}}, the rambling and back-and-forth rhythm wouldn't work, for example.



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