Galuppi Editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8S0Zkn4zBs>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFhPrevious: >>123107326
>>123128037It's disgusting how much you guys like Mahler here.
>>123128196more like MEHler.
Maho editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL0vgQyCfzM
>>123128212Yes.
>>123128037bruckner (jochum (dg))https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrkJy47HG3Q
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arFrDtEsVYs
>>123128879Based.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO2L9Q06CTE
Takemitsu(Wo bist du? Wo bist du?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk9H2oNSjLs
>tfw recording has hiss and the hiss is mixed in such a way to be much louder in one side than the otherwhy the fuck does this happen all the time
>>123131018Common issue with aged masters. It bothers me too but it's not really that difficult to fix it yourself.
>>123131140>>123131140
>>123126775folk music, simple theatre, easy reading; just because a given form is associated with art does not mean that it doesn’t have a base entertainment counterpart.
>>123131583does hector really
>>123128196I wish I connected with and loved another composer's music as much.
>>123128196>>123128212>>123128286maybe you would too if you listened to literally any mahler symphony other than the first, mehlerschizo
>>123132174Plus, I don't know about you but I find his music endlessly re-listenable. Most music I have to set aside for a bit after I give it a listen, no matter how much I love it, but I could genuinely listen to three recordings back-to-back-to-back of any of Mahler's symphonies -- there's just so much to them! A universe of brilliant, variegated sounds, ideas, themes, and emotions.
>>123126888Nice post.
Best Beethoven violin concerto recording?
>>123132382I don't know about best but you can't go wrong with Heifetz / Munch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PNe2LcIb6I
>>123132382>>123132405If you want slower (37min v. 44), here's Stern / Bernstein:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lAZnx5CdsNvOv_YQP4dUWW3iCmnqStrQA
>>123132382https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bEgN7Ee_wU
>>123132440Weird to think Szell was kicking around even back then
Best harpsichord composers?
>>123132405Thank you, I have heard Heifetz. But every great violinist has played it, so I was wondering which people find most outstanding.
>>123132429beyond foul
this is what classicalfags look likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdyyin_9izI
>>123132429beyond based
>>123132541Did Lenny 'Bernstein kiss' your mother or somethin'?
Thoughts on Klemperer's Beethoven? I find myself more and more drawn to his conducting style as of late so considering trying out all of his recordings of the standard repertoire (Brahms, Mendelssohn, etc.).
>>123132666he slow
>>123132674I know but that approach has been emotionally resonating with me as of late. Like Beethoven's 3rd I think sounds better slow.
>>123132666https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAfAsOf4iRgI enjoy this performance.
>>123132711Neat, thank you. Will listen once the symphony I'm currently playing finishes.
>>123132567beyond retarded>>123132615he does so to your ears every time you play a recording with his slimy jewish hands all over it>>123132666incredibly slow and lacking vivacity, ie. contrary to every notion we have of 19th century performance practice of beethoven
>>123132725>he does so to your ears every time you play a recording with his slimy jewish hands all over itkek
>>123132725When did you become a HIPster? You like your Bach single-voice and fast now too?
>>123132688well i like his missa solemnis (not the emi one)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEBToqZA8XIand hurwitz shitting on it, i'd like to punch his face somedayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nk2D3YuGVc
>>123132779Thanks, didn't know he had more than the one with the New Philharmonia. Looking it up I see he has that one with the KRSO as well as one with the VPO, added both.
>In short, this release is a confirmation of what other recordings from the pre-stereo era have suggested: a Klemperer who was more aggressively intense than the one of succeeding years, when, to my mind, he became musically confined to broadened tempos, at least in part, by a palsy-ridden bodyhuh, I see
>>123132762i’m against HIP as a performance practice today, but not as an inherent concept. there is no evidence whatsoever that bach would have preferred single voice parts over choral parts had he had unlimited resources; on the other hand every sign points to beethoven preferring his music played inhumanly fast; what reason do we have to ignore this?
>>123132847Fair enough.>what reason do we have to ignore this?Unlocking a work in ways the composer didn't realize or decided against but may still be worthwhile + catering to contemporary sensibilities, the best means of bringing the music to life
>>123132779>WAAAAAAAH HURIWTZ DOESNT LIKE WHAT I LIKEbitching aside, how is he wrong? he's correct that the production is bad and the playing is not as technically accomplished as a studio recording with higher profile soloists and unlimited takes at their disposal. just because you prefer klemperer's tempi in it doesn't mean that hurwitz's criticism is invalid. >>123132872i don't consider klemperer's interpretation of beethoven to be worthwhile, and i especially don't think contemporary sensibilities are worth a shit.
Finally listening to the Szell Missa Solemnis, great so far! How are Bernstein's two recordings of it (one with Concertgebouw on DG, one with New York Phil. on Sony)?
>>123132985incomprehensibly foul
>>123132985The Sony one is fine interpretively and has some good singing, but unfortunately the chorus really overwhelms the shit out of everything else, it's too overbalanced in its favor. The DG one is just kind of boring.
>>123133008>>123133023Noted, thank you very much.
I love Shostakovich 7 so much. It's been my favorite for years, and at this point I doubt anything will ever top it. It just feels so much more consistently coherent than anything else, like I can understand every creative decision he made along the way.https://youtu.be/OFYCSrSvNKs?si=gE3Wjqw9t_Oona-2&t=3656What are your favorite recordings of it? Many play it too fast, but most of the rest plays it far too slow to overcompensate for that.
>>123133563https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jHAnFgrzUIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOKL_q-Ribsi'm more of a 8th kind of guy
>>123133563my condolences
>>123131984Hector>>>>>>>>>>sisterposter
>>123133754thank you hector
>>123133563The 7th is indeed fantastic. I'll check out that recording too, thanks.
>>123133563Jansons / Leningrad and Rozhdestvensky / USSR Ministry
>>123133766Thank you Jan Itor
>>123133968thank you obsessed concern troll
What would Mozart think of Rachmaninoff's concertos? I think he would be in awe, maybe even jealous too, since he didn't have a modern piano which would allow him to merge piano and orchesta better, nor was he as virtuosic despite definitely trying to be, or as emotional.He would be proud of Rach IMO. Anyway share your thoughts.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXWCeLc9QDQSistershitter's embarrassing opinion is unneeded.
>>123134121he would laugh at rachaminoff's terrible handling of voice leading, counterpoint, motivic development, and formal structure. romantiturds never cease to humiliate themselves in their ceaseless obsession with shallow emotional hysterics and virtuoso showmanship.
>>123134203>Sistershitter's embarrassing opinion is unneeded.
>>123134505>romantiturds never cease to humiliate themselves
>>123134121>Sistershitter's embarrassing opinion is unneeded.Should be posted in the OP of every /classical/ general
>>123135142>romantiturds never cease to humiliate themselvesShould be posted in the OP of every /classical/ general
>>123135198Sister jannies need not apply
>>123135142Based.>>123135198>seething so hard that you reply to the wrong post with a "no u"KEK
>>123135237obsessed concern trolls need not apply>>123135246>seething so hard you don’t even realize why i replied to the post i didKEK, not all of us are samefags like you
now playingstart of Shostakovich - Symphony No. 8 in C Minor, Op. 65:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZZB0mMROOc&list=OLAK5uy_nZzJSV8eS9qrSKzQ_cPLuFIcSIv1WeXGo&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nZzJSV8eS9qrSKzQ_cPLuFIcSIv1WeXGo
>>123135306>implying it's a samefagMindbroken and seething.Also let's not pretend you post anything but shitposts you despicable catlady kek
Best/favorite/highly interesting recordings of Beethoven's 8th?
>>123135371>implying you post anything but shitpostsmindbroken and seething. also let's not pretend you aren't a mentally ill obsessed concern troll riding on the coattails of every single post i make LMAO>>123135387markevitch
>>123135397>yet another no uEh, you really love taking those L's don't you?> riding on the coattails of every single post i make LMAOI make filters and usually completely ignore your posts but sometimes you do need to be reminded that you're a bitter loser.
>>123135397Any thoughts on Vanska's Beethoven with Minnesota?
>>123135397>>123135444Will listen to Markevitch's cycle with Lamourex, thanks.
>riding on the coattails of every single post i make LMAONow that I think about it, how ironic is this? Lmfao.There's not a single one post in last 5 threads where I don't get at least a single seething sisterreply
>>123135387Scherchen's RPO recording is my favorite.
Tchaikovsky: Dumka, Op. 59Askanazi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLSgzoRAnqY
>>123135442>muh heckin no u’sEh, you really love taking those L's don't you?>I make filters and usually completely ignore your posts but sometimes you do need to be reminded that you're a bitter loser.you’re not fooling anyone, you mindbroken obsessed schizo. you hang on to my every word like your existence depends on it; if i stopped posting suddenly you would lose all purpose in life and end yourself. may as well go ahead and do it since it’ll happen sooner or later. >>123135444absolutely vile>>123135470yep, he’s obsessed LOL
>>123135478Thank you.
>>123135496>yet another no uMore L's for ya.>you hang on to my every word like your existence depends on itNo I don't even bother replying with you until every 5thread you just need to be bitchslapped and reminded you're a bitter loser.>yep, he’s obsessed You're literally replying to me kek. You are indeed obsessed. I get more (You)s from you than you get from me, that is a fact.
>>123135522>muh heckin no u’sMore L's for ya.>you just need to be bitchslapped and reminded you're a bitter loser.said the guy who obsessively keeps track of every thread he replies to me in LMFAO, what a creepy stalker schizo. >You're literally replying to me kek. oh the irony LOL, never seen a more mindbroken mentally ill retard
Schizo competely lost it.Eternally mindbroken by surpene Russian romanticism.
obsessed schizo completely lost it.eternally mindbroken by typical slave schizophrenia
Can't wait to get more (You)s as I post daily Russian music :-)
can’t wait to get more (You)s as i shit on more sickening revolting slaveslop :^)
>admits he's riding on the coattails of every single post i makeSelf-defeat... LOLMAO
>admits he's desperately pining for me to reply to his concern troll garbageSelf-defeat... LOLMAO
>thinks world is revolving around him and backs down on coattallingLOL!
>>123132531who do you thinkBach, Handel, Buxtehude (mostly wrote pieces for general keyboard that can be played on either organ or harpsichord), Froberger, Gibbons (same as Buxtehude)
Pauline Oliveros
>thinks my every reply revolves around him spamming subpar slaveic garbageLOL!
>>123135564yup
>>123135804Weak.
>>123135812cumbrain>>123135822Weak.
why are you guys so gay
>>123135916It's just the schizo aka sisterposter >>123135883
>>123133653I really wish we got a piano arrangement of the whole symphony written by his own hands.
>>123135916terminal porn addiction, as seen in the case of >>123135812 and >>123135822
Why can't you go one thread without squabbling about thread drama
>>123136172see >>123135961
Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 8 in C Minor, Op. 13 "Pathétique": II. Adagio cantabileAskanazhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn5MAzcISqQ
let's get "Apocalyptic"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pvcpPbmyvw&list=OLAK5uy_lkTC4Z-K4wDjksCymK7R7NyTCUSBSuMXY&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lkTC4Z-K4wDjksCymK7R7NyTCUSBSuMXY
>>123136528most retarded nickname of any bruckner symphony by far
>>123136563You're more retarded either way.
>>123136623so much impotent rage LOL
Stravinsky The Flood The actual flood part was a little gay. For an apocalyptic world ending flood it could have sounded a little more impressive. I do think the piece captured some of that sense of Holy Dread you might say and the serpents voice was really creepy. There's parts missing though as I recall from Genesis The Flood had to with humanity mating with something called The Nephelim -which don't recieve mention. I'm also not really sure why he thought to include a so called 'comedy' of Noah's wife not wanting to go in the Ark. That was stupidhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_klRrg8cPiONrF_ekQtLOIf5P0Xv2pC3Zg
Music for interracial?
>>123136796Johann Sebastian Blacked
>>123136829kek
>>123135952he played the tenth as piano duohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ZvYLhpw1k&list=OLAK5uy_n6mRS3FAwjsQkl0wAKlxmHCwK1_LsXUj0&index=68
>>123135952i would weep out of sheer disgust too
>>123135952How bitch made do you have to be to cry in front of others.
Shostakovitch's 7th sounds like a film score, but I can't tell if it's just the recording hmmm...
>>123137684>sounds like a film score,He must be heavily influenced by Beethoven.
bait used to be believable
>>123137764Baithoven
Scarlattihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLG8KtjbFI
>>123137895>This video is not available
>>123136563Why? It sounds pretty apt for the symphony. It's a pretty dark symphony.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wl1HqrCzjA
>>123137973https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SLZbDH_RGI
>>123137993because it’s not apocalyptic. literally only the first movement has tragic undertones; the scherzo is boisterous to the point of being clumsy, the adagio is a lovesong, and the finale is a grand march. the nickname apocalyptic is extraordinarily myopic for such a large scale work.
Sibeliushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta01p3HaTFA&list=OLAK5uy_lXycuHuf_ku3YK0490oCno79Hw_5dF4yI
>>123138022The first minute sounds like circus music
>>123138040The finale sounds pretty evil and gnarly to me
>>123138022From here, has anyone noticed a rise on albums with cheap looking covers by literal who labels?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppBjRW3e7I0
>>123138095you are wrong. >Very few conductors begin the movement with the A theme as slow as half note = 69 per minute, and with those who do, the effect seems slack and nerveless. Yet Bruckner himself acknowledged that the grace-noted quarter notes were meant to evoke the sounds of a galloping horse. He had in his mind the gathering of the Dreikaiserbund, the alliance of the three emperors of Austria, Germany, and Russia, which was renewed in 1884 at Skierniewice to ensure the future peace of Europe. Bruckner envisioned the ceremonial event with equestrian pageantry, represented by the sound of galloping horses which was familiar to all his listeners in the 1880s and 1890s. Research from videos of horse races shows through the motions of the horses’ heads that the pace of the gallop is 67.9 ± 1.3 per minute, very close to Bruckner’s 69. it’s a gallop.
>>123138155Gallops can be evil
>>123138155Right, the horsemen of the apolcalypse
>>123138169>>123138202bruckner specified in his own words that the gallop was in reference to the political meeting that zander references, so no, it’s again, not apocalyptic nor biblical.
>>123138221Must have been a very apocalyptic political meeting
>>123138234delusional
>>123138221Well you might be right, so far it's not sounding very 'apocalyptic' to me
I've tried listening to Shostakovich's 7th twice today and his 8th and I've fallen asleep all three times, no joke.>>123136563Always thought the 8th could have been called 'Lyrical' instead
>>123138318ironically enough, the 7th has the nickname lyrical, though it’s not unfitting like with the 8th and apocalyptic
What's the most overrated recording ever?
>>123138432fartwangler’s nazi ninth
Brahmshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmTMrgZ4Q3U
>>123138470Love Abbado's Brahms, great recording.
>>123138432anything with joshua bell in it
>>123138470The real tragedy is making it to the end and realize you wasted your time listening to this trash.
>>123138602Because of Brahms or the recording? Either way, no u!
>>123132711Finally listening to this and loving it, shame I never got around to it before, exactly my kind of 9th, thanks for sharing.
>>123138432Carlos Kleiber's recording of Beethoven's 5th. Nothing else really comes close.
>>123138646I always found myself turning that off partway through, but I figured it was because I didn't like the 5th anymore, so if it was the recording that'd make sense.
Barberhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uN7TVtYhTc&list=OLAK5uy_nkLV6QlAtJQH12TEzDG8SvM1Kstv5vSQ8
Did not really care for the Giulini / Philharmonia Tchaikovsky 6, shame.
>>123138646his 7th does!
>>123138892That one's actually fantastic tho
>>123138646With which orchestra?
>>123138978nah, it's just as unspectacular as his 5th
Mayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-U0r2o5cCE&list=OLAK5uy_lvyjziseRcxS7akL8I5xzd2-QhB1vKLEg
>>123139190Presumably the one with Vienna
now playingstart of Symphonie fantastique, H 48:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MYWD_5Qggk&list=OLAK5uy_nH9Di1LAsUlG_nmCFnT7mbvGJOjIAhPjI&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nH9Di1LAsUlG_nmCFnT7mbvGJOjIAhPjI
>>123139515Back when album covers still had soul.
>>123139532What, you don't like this!?Yeah that Ormandy one is great.
>>123139515>we want the horror audience
>>123139586that shirt is hideous, if you’re going to plaster yourself on your record cover at least have the decency to dress well
>>123139691It was probably owned and worn by Bernstein.
>>123139691>>123139701Here he is wearing it.But nah, I've been on a Bernstein kick lately, and I've heard great things about his Tchaikovsky so gonna give it a try.
>>123139701LMAO>>123139811nah, that's not a band collar shirt.
Okay, I know I get overly excited and effusive when I discover an unfamiliar good recording, but wow! Someone else give this a listen and tell me if I'm being crazy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43H3wnOpLdg&list=OLAK5uy_laUQIP1ygSLKuOHg5_MmDPenNf9RIIzIU&index=1didn't care for this btw: >>123139811
>I was trepidatious when I saw the 5th announced with a publicity blurb in which Maestro Fischer declared that this was the most Jewish of all Mahler's symphonies.?
Schoenberg > Wagner>>123135961>porn addiction is...LE BADfuck off normie, this is a coomer website
>>123140052fischer is usually a very intelligent mahler conductor, but his middle symphonies are really quite the letdown>>123140133your prefrontal cortex is more cooked than fried chicken at a KFC
>>123137684Film scores sound like shosty 7On that note, I've long thought that the stargate theme sounds a lot like the endinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aafGXNWHGaw
>>123140014!!!!!https://youtube.com/watch?v=AE8Tdq6uqtscheck this out if you like choral music or want to like it or just like good music
>favourite composers are bruckner, wagner, beethoven and leharIs this good taste?
Distinguishing between 'favorite' and 'best' for the moment, I'm pretty much now of the belief that the best recordings tend to rise to the top in terms of popularity, acclaim, and recognition. Of course this doesn't preclude bad ones from also reaching those same heights, and there are also relative peaks (ie 'only among serious fans of the work or composer'), but in general this is true. Agree or disagree?
>>123140644This applies to classical music in general as well, not just recordings.
>>123140644It's pretty rare for a genuinely bad recording to reach the top of acclaim, even ones that are less than their reputation are simply overrated and not bad per se, but there are, as you say, some cases of genuinely awful recordings reaching the heights of criticial reception.However, it is quite common for a good or great recording to languish in obscurity. Especially a modern recording, due to oversaturation in the market. And then there are recordings for those "in the know" I.E. popular amongst specialists but virtually unknown amongst those that can considered more mainstream.
>>123140716>However, it is quite common for a good or great recording to languish in obscurity. Especially a modern recording, due to oversaturation in the market. And then there are recordings for those "in the know" I.E. popular amongst specialists but virtually unknown amongst those that can considered more mainstream.Maybe I shouldn't have said to the 'top' but rather, if a recording is truly great ('truly' meaning outside of one's peculiarities and idiosyncratic preferences), other people will take notice is all I mean. But yeah you're right, though I do think time solves most of those issues, as in lifting quality out of obscurity and tossing aside temporary fads and underserved hype to the dustbins of history.
>>123140512thank you cumbrain virgin>>123140644>>123140778retarded and false, plenty of fantastic recordings languish in obscurity due to lack of record label support
This fag is so boring
>>123141431literally cannot think of anything more gross than bernstein’s mozart, even hurwitz wouldn’t recommend that garbage
Been obsessed with Zelenka lately
>>123132174>>123132267Gypsy jewish nonsense, every symphony, every time.
>>123142547i don’t think there’s an “every time” for you since the only mahler symphony you’ve heard is the first, mehlerschizo.
>>123134121He would realize they are superior to his own concertos, what do you think? He has never written anything as powerful as Rach's 2 and 3
looks like it's time to tap the sign again>romantiturds never cease to humiliate themselves
Which wagner recordings does wagnersister even listen to? Modern wagner recordings sound shit
>>123142694Have you ever had any recitals?
>>123143048No one listens to any Wagner recorded later than 1990.
>>123143078Is there even any wagner recording that has good singing after the 50s?
>>123143078Baits are supposed to be believable
>>123143053what does this have to do with slavesloppers and their daily self-humiliation rituals
>>123143204It would explain your lack of taste and IQ
>>123143234>you need to play the same shitty etudes every 12 year old chinese boy and girl can play in their sleep or your opinion is invalid!lmao
>>123143275Yes you do, etudes, concertos, sonatas and more. You have to be skilled and talanted if you want your opinion to be of any value.
>>123143111A few of the classic singers lasted into the ensuing decades, but I don't know any young singer in the 80s who sung Wagner well.
>>123143186Name one good recording of Wagner post-1990.
>>123143334laughable fallacy, as if pianistic skill has any relation whatsoever to compositional analysis or critique. the vast majority of performers i’ve had the displeasure of dealing with have no comprehension whatsoever of the music they’re playing, they simply do as the score and their studio teacher tells them to. also, this bar isn’t nearly as high as you think it is considering the entire population of south korea can play all 4 rach concertos back to back from memory at this point.
>>123143371>as if pianistic skill has any relation whatsoever to compositional analysis or critique.They absolutely do. Playing an instrument improves your perception of the music like you wouldn't believe.
>>123143371I agree.>>123143579no, it doesn't.
>>123143371>>123144216>walk into the "intellectual and elitist general"
>>123144221not an argument.
>>123143579>t.
>>123144245>>123144508
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpMY0WHk9_U
Do any of you guys write music yourself?
>>123144787yes.
>>123144859Are you going for the style of classical composers you like, or something completely different?
>>123128037Where to start with Anton Bruckner, Christoph Willibald Gluck, and Vincenzo Bellini?
>>123143335Post some recordings with the "good," singers in that case
>>123144899I write soundtracks. With regards to style, I am proficient in anything from 16th century polyphony to late/neo-romanticism.
>>123145531>With regards to style, I am proficient in anything from 16th century polyphony to late/neo-romanticism.Yes, but can you actually write good music in any of these styles? And no, by 'good', I do not mean something follows all of the rules, Herr Beckmesser.
>>123143579playing an instrument improves your perception of music, but it certainly isn’t equivalent to making it good. pretty much every great composer was also a great performer in some way, but the vast majority of performers are legitimate mental retards. capiche?>>123144216>>123144245>>123144508>>123144859>>123145531don’t reply to me, pedophile kraut. >>123144221yes, and?
>>123145590good is a subjective term.
>>123145590his music doesn’t even follow any “rules” other than some bullshit harmonic rules he concocted based off of reading too much riemann.>>123145651thankfully, your music is universally considered objectively bad.
starting the day with more Fischer conducting Russianshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMx_06DxFs&list=OLAK5uy_lddQKClwVT3DT0SHdG5AQ0_HivNu6DJq8&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lddQKClwVT3DT0SHdG5AQ0_HivNu6DJq8Any other great recordings by him? I should revisit his Mahler.
>>123145825Based.
>>123146347It's a fantastic recording! And certainly one of the best Vocalise I've ever heard too.https://youtube.com/watch?v=bNyxnn4n6Zk
now playingstart of Prokofiev - Symphony No. 1 in D Major, Op. 25 "Classical Symphony":https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Xh5z_dwBU&list=OLAK5uy_nOUyRN_IDd1nPaeSiz6FMa9UzJ2ru75iU&index=2start of Symphony No. 5 in B-Flat Major, Op. 100:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo0EDjgLYYs&list=OLAK5uy_nOUyRN_IDd1nPaeSiz6FMa9UzJ2ru75iU&index=5https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nOUyRN_IDd1nPaeSiz6FMa9UzJ2ru75iU
Great cover
>>123146485V. nice
>>123143078I'd go as far as '98 personally
>>123142675dumbest post ever until the end of time
>>123146485Whats that orange thing on his neck behind his right hand?
>>123146555What the fuck are you talking about? Nice trips, btw.
>>123146610I could not be any clearer man, there's an orange thing behind his right hand. Is it fire piercing through him?
>>123145531Cool. but yeah, I guess at that point the style becomes what the person hiring wants. >>123145590>>123145681why the negativity?
>>123146625You're colourblind. There's nothing orange there.
>>123147209because the tripfag is a known pedophile and a terrible composer
>>123147248Oh. I didnt' know.
Best recording of Bartok's Music for Strings, Percussion & Celesta?
>>123147485Fritz Reiner with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra
>>123147485There's a lot of great ones to pick from, but for me it's Mravinsky's. Some of the best string playing you'll ever heard, period.
>>123134203Now explain for the folks at home what voice leading is
npI'm really liking Sanderling's sound here, definitely gonna have to explore the rest of his Shostakovich recordings. I've been on a real 'Russian music conducted by a non-Russian' kick lately, as I noticed I generally default to Russian conductors for that kind of music, which is generally a great idea as they know how to play it, but non-Russians have good ideas on it too.
>>123146625It’s probably unrelated to the flames he’s being engulfed by >>123146485Arch nemesis of Josef Bloods
>>123148935the handling of multiple independent melodic lines in a contrapuntal texture.
now playingstart of Prokofiev - Symphony No. 6, Op. 111:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MtjWZxZY7Q&list=OLAK5uy_kulM2zXEJyi946NrczByxXQhsrwsI_fTQ&index=2start of Myaskovsky - Symphony No. 27, Op. 85:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBUVdOyOFpw&list=OLAK5uy_kulM2zXEJyi946NrczByxXQhsrwsI_fTQ&index=4https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kulM2zXEJyi946NrczByxXQhsrwsI_fTQI did read one review that suggested the Prokofiev 6 on this recording was so-so but the Myaskovsky was stellar, so we'll see. I really like V. Petrenko so he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
>>123149323Yeah that review was right, completely forgettable and interpretively misguided Prokofiev 6, stunning Myaskovsky 27, highly recommend the latter. What other symphonies or works by Myaskovsky are worth listening to? After listening to that, I'm sold.
The modern Mozart
bait is supposed to be believable you know
In some ways Mozart is is highly overestimated. He was a solid craftsman, deeply versed in theory, and capable of making incredibly complex stuff work. But he was mostly a "musician's musician", a solid artisan - on the "art" front, I his music was often disappointing, more so when you remove the hype factor that has accrued over the agesWhat Mozart does share with Collier is a strong grasp on the technical aspects of composition; what he lacks is the ability to touch souls and blow minds.Collier amazes on all levels - his music is catchy, then it grabs you with effortless mastery of technique, and as you keep listening, he keeps amazing you with ever-new depths
Stockhausen and Braxton, the GOATs>tfw Maho gave me PIED
John Cage Sonata Vhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRHoKZRYBlY
One of John Cage's early works (1933), this work embraces 12-tone compositional technique - sometimes loosely, sometimes strictly - to create a work that is playful and rhythmic. The score lacks any dynamic or stylistic guidance for the performer.Although Cage disavowed many of his earliest works, when reflecting upon the Clarinet Sonata (also called "Sonata for One Voice") he referred to the piece as "Very interesting."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bWUpt343ZU
John Cage Imaginary Landscape No. 5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZk1TQ2zTI
let it be known that RYMtrannies killed /classical/
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>>123132174What is his best symphony? 9th I kthink.
Are there any modern day "composers" who write large scale musical pieces on the scale of symphonies, piano concertos, or other comparable works. Seems like there's nothing by songs or music composed for movies/shows these days. Makes me wish we had something like the pre-modern system where rich people would just commission symphonies all the time.
>>123155747then buy some actual textbooks and learn how to compose music instead of complaining on an anonymous Kyrgyzstani carpet weaving forum.
>>123155929>just make your own symphonies
>>123155940that is correct. either do something yourself or stop whining.
Glen Gould on Beethoven part 1where he discusses tempohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiRySfETBdgand part 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIbMAWd6nAwhere towards the end he talks of the possibility of Beethoven, perhaps accidentally, discovering Schoenberg's techniques
>>123155972I like the parts where he doesn't speak.
>>123154486>Where can I learn more about the works of John Cage?That's an excellent question sister, unfortunately right now I don't have an answer for you so here's Imaginary Landscapes No.4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPfwrFl1FHM
i've become autistically obsessed with this piece.https://youtu.be/sUgoBb8m1eE
>>123156201https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u4ANU4I45Q
>>123155940>>123155964Well, or become rich so you can commission the kind of art you want.
>Staatskapelle Dresden, Otmar Suitner
Rachmaninoff becomes even more exciting as you learn more about harmony and voice leading. Romanticism is truly the greatest achievement of humanity, it showed that traditional melody rules are not necessarily always the best to follow, instead chromaticism and more emotional tensions in melody (such as concerto 2, leap from C to Ab in the first melody played by the strings) bring out the most 'happiness' or emotion of some sort in humans. More modulation, ninths, elevenths, thirtheenths are also such important additions.There is nothing remotely close to the heart, soul and emotiveness of human than Romanticism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8mP5B-ws2sp e a k
Bachyoutube.com/watch?v=R4oPkiOwq28
>>123155711it’s pretty difficult to contest any other symphony than the 9th, yeah. >>123155998thank you RYMtranny>>123158411this post was written by someone who’s never ever written a basic four part chorale.
>>123159048I haven't learned 3 and 4 part counterpoint yet, but instrumental music is superior to choral anyway.I'll write four part chorale soon enough and I'll still think the same way.
Scarlattihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH6TQu_KfyQ
>>123159107>he genuinely has no idea what a 4 part chorale isholy shit what a fucking retard
>>123159133I do. I'm just studying harmony with counterpoint and independent voices.
>>123159150you really fucking don’t, because if you did you wouldn’t have brought up instrumental music or choral music, nor would you have mentioned counterpoint.
Ah the daily schizo meltdown. Never gives up despite being wrong.
>>123159178dude you’re actually fucking retarded LOL, no wonder you like rach
>>123150739>t Mozart couldn't even play the drums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTZ33EVK3Ugdo gould sisters really?
>classicalNo thanks. I'm not a pedophile.
>>123160894>sisterposter listens to turkish march behind the scenesWhy am I not surprised
>>123160965why would that be behind the scenesit's a very good movement
>>123160955why not?
>>123160965i don't listen to gould behind the scenes, but the K331 sonata is great. just because the finale is popular doesn't meant that the first movement isn't a masterpiece in variation form.
>Paul recounted a conversation to us that Wagner had one day in 1881 with his influential banker friend, Friedrich Feustel, who was chairman of the Bayreuth town council. A factory owner, Friedrich von Schon, was present, and he recorded with surprising objectivity their argument about factory workers’ conditions. Wagner suddenly lost his temper. 'Yes,' he shouted, 'and they stand there all day in their factories and see and hear nothing but bare walls and noise and pounding of the machines - is that an existence fit for human beings?' Feustel tried to bring up mollifying counterarguments, but Schon recalled Wagner “flared up in a fit of the most profound and painful emotion, summing all that he had to say on the subject in a single exclamation: 'Children, children, have you forgotten Jesus Christ?' He uttered those words with so indescribable an expression in his eyes and with so shatteringly powerful a sense of fellow-feeling for the darker aspects of our social lives, and with such a moving reverence for the divinity of the name that he had just spoken, that we were all moved to the depths of our being. The effect was as if the master had placed the figure of the Redeemer before our innermost eye: 'I saw him - then his gaze fell on me!' [quotation from Parsifal] Not another word was spoken. We rose and took our leave, our hearts profoundly stirred."This Wagner sounds like a real nice guy.
>>123161326rich coming from a guy who coveted his neighbor's wife
>>123161366Wagnerian Christianity says it's wrong for two people to be tied together beyond the point of their love for each other.
>>123161534>wagnerian christianityLMFAO
>>123159048Explain for the folks at home who aren’t aware what a 4 part chorale is
>>123160894There’s nothing wrong with playing it that way- sounds more like a march and it sounds more Turkish- rather than an exercise in showing off. At any rate Glen said that he believed, at least for pieces like that sonata that all the definitive statements on it were already out in recorded form. So for a recording pianist the only possible thing left to do would be to try something new and daring. Not just shocking for the sake of shocking since he stands by that recording , but basically something a little out there
>>123161326A Canadian on /pol/ said that Wagner was Jewish
>>123162559it was more the fucking humming than his playing, i actually like the playing, and I never understood how the default became to not play it as a march.
>>123162460a chorale in 4 voices written in SATB format, the most commonly taught method of learning basic voice leading rules and harmony. >>123162559gould ghouls are so fucking retarded holy shit
>>123162581That guy is a retard.
>>123160894It's the incredible precision of Gould's touch that gets me. Every note slightly detached, but the timing and dynamics are so even, it's obvious even if you didn't know it was Gould, you would know it's the playing of a master pianist.
Gotten back into listening to classical music recently.Would you be able to suggest a bad classical composition, Most of what I've listened to so far has been quite compilations and recs from yuotube playlists so I want to find something actually bad to better appreciate the contrast.
>>123162779He's canadian, that's redundant.
>>123163017the playing of a master retard more like
Now Playing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6bMUPmWeCE
Vivaldihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_L62GlZ7jk&list=OLAK5uy_nKu4bEHCw_WYPYwzGu3IEJw2rtkK5Z8gc
dvorak's requiem is actually not bad at all. why does no one talk about this piece again?
>>123163492Honestly see fuck all discussion about romantic era choral music, period
>>123160965Yes their taste is very pedestrian. It's mainly Soizhart and Reddithoven
>>123163609how many people do you think are in the thread?
>>123163540because most of it sucks. but the dvorak requiem is actually very competent, which surprises me because people never shut up about every requiem mass other than this one. >>123163609thank you RYMsister
>>123163760an excellent question sister
>>123163789Better RYM than Reddit
>>123163811so true RYMsister
>>123163830Better RYM than Reddit
>>123163811What are you talking about? I'm pretty Reddit loves Rach and Tchaik and Chopin like all basic bitch classical audiences.
>>123163845i'm sure you believe as much, RYMsister>>123163876haven't you heard? popular = reddit and bad. now listen to all 6 hours of feldman's second string quartet or you are, heaven fordid, a redditor.
>>123163876*pretty sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZQjaoKZ0P0
>>123163876You're deluded and out of touch. Beethoven, Mozart and Bach are the basic bitch choiceshttps://www.reddit.com/r/classicalmusic/comments/13o2q22/who_is_in_your_opinion_the_best_composer_to_have/
>>123163903Thank you redditor sister
>>123163982>>123164000it's time to dilate to ligeti, RYMsister
>>123163982this. i genuinely tried to study them to prepare myself for my music production efforts. there isn't THAT much depth to it or relevance for modern music composition.
>>123163982Hardly the best measure, but even in that thread there's multiple replies that are like 'The best is Bach, but my favourite is Rach/Chopin/Prokofiev' lol.
>>123164025>music production efforts LMFAO
>>123164059yes most /dmp/ and /prod/ are endlessly procrastinating high school dropouts but i'm not like them i'm a musical genius and i've set up audiophile/studio grade monitoring so i can discern the sound quality differences of pro vs amateur songs and between different synths etc
>>123164096>this is the average schizo sisterincredible, dying in tears rn
the dvorak requiem may be the only piece of romantic choral music to have fully grasped the innovations in choral writing from beethoven’s missa solemnis. really insane how no one gives a shit about it
Thank you Wagner sister
>>123164227Do you have a recording recommendation?
>>123164233i'm listening to kertesz's, but ancerl is supposed to have a good recording too, though knowing supraphon the sound will be terrible.
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fuck I need to be faster to post my Martinu thread.
THANK YOU WAGNER SISTER
>>123163609how do you manage to type in between all the drooling
>>123164025your taste has been rotted by modern sensibilities and tasteless emotional manipulatio. I'm sure most literature you like is from past the 1790s too.
