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https://vocaroo.com/17bxeXCPQ99dnot sure if fyee or not
What's the magic thing studios do the vocals to finalize them for crispy, clean finished professional mixes? Here's an example from a mixing discussion using Breaking Benjamin's song 'Lights Out' with the isolated tracks, I believe these are all unfinished isolated tracks as well: https://youtu.be/xytsTq_Wolg?t=2400Go to 40:08 and you can hear the first bit of the verse, it has a TON of reverb and delay, VERY obvious autotune on it, it damn near sounds robotic. Then you listen to the official mix and Ben's voice suddenly sounds real, there's no reverb or delay, there's no apparent autotune. I don't get it! What the fuck is being done to this vocal to give it all the good qualities of the effects applied to it, but make it still sound like the voice is just Ben singing to you directly with no effects? Nobody is explaining how they make this massive leap.
>>123963169>fyeeIf by this you mean the sound of someone letting out a high-pitched fart through a tightly clenched asshole, then yes, it is fyee.
>>123963320It's about making the vocal sitting in the mix. If you listen to amateur mixes, the vocals often sounds like it's slapped on top of the mix, not really blending well with the rest of the instrumentation. All the effects you hear in that session is to ensure that blend happens, it's not done for effects sake. The delays and reverb isnt going on top of the mix to be heard "oooh wow, alot of delays and reverb on this vocal, sounds like I'm in a cave". It's just there to blend it all together.Even most of the driest mixes have some very short and subtle room verb/delay on the vocals to make the vocals sound like they were recorded in the same room as the rest of the mix.
>>123963320>listen to the official mix and Ben's voice suddenly sounds real, there's no reverb or delay, there's no apparent autotune.There's plenty, but there's also automation. The reverbs and delays are brougth down during the verses and brought up again during the chorus and bridge. And there's plenty of autotune on this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOGGobG2iiE
givin it a little bump so its still up when I get back from dinner
>>123963578>autotuneIt doesn't sound so blatant though as say in pop/rap/hiphop music where the voice becomes almost digital/robotic in the final mix. Is it based on the type of plugin used for the autotune? Or something in the faders for the plugin? I don't work with that effect at all, because I hate how it sounds in pop type music and so I can't imagine making it work with rock/metal music but somehow they're doing it here without it sounding like it's even there. >>123963365I currently have this issue. My reverbs are either nonexistent or very, very obvious an no inbetween and I don't know how to fix that.
You guys ever write something and when you sing it the vocal tone/style just doesn't seem to fit the genre of music you wrote? I feel like my voice works very well in a specific 'box' but outside that it does not work. I can sing country, southern rock, grunge, but if I try to put my vocals over other musical genres I feel like it's very out of place. Like watching a person cover a song that is way out of their normal style. It's not as bad as like, Snoop Dogg doing Metallica, but it still feels off. I've experimented with changing my vocal tone to try to fit into the 'box' I feel works with the genre but the it sounds foreign, weird, like someone else is singing my song and it isn't actually that good because it's such an unnatural tone that my voice is obviously poorly trying to imitate. It's weird,it bugs me because I can write so many different genres of music but only sing certain ones.
>>123964163This is why your mixing is context dependent. If you mute everything else and only mix vocals for 2 hours, it's not going to sound right. The exception being if you need to do some tidying up of harsh, muddy or boomy frequencies and editing. When mixing, you should always hear and be aware of how your vocals will sit in the mix.>It doesn't sound so blatant though as say in pop/rap/hiphop music where the voice becomes almost digital/robotic in the final mix.Because a hard rock mix is waay busier and it gets hidden alot. Hip Hop vocals are also way louder in the mix than hard rock vocals.>Is it based on the type of plugin used for the autotune? Or something in the faders for the plugin? I don't work with that effect at all, because I hate how it sounds in pop type music and so I can't imagine making it work with rock/metal music but somehow they're doing it here without it sounding like it's even there. Not sure what you're getting at, but using autotune with little skill makes everything sound really robotic and inhuman, when it's used in subtle ways, helping a otherwise great vocal take that's a little off key or enought that it's distracting, to fit better.
>>123963320>Nobody is explaining how they make this massive leap.It' a matter of what it sounds like in context and doing it tastefully.What sounds obvious solo'd won't in a full mix.Insane vocals, clean edit, nice gear. Nobody wants to hear it but the difference between amateur and pro vocals like that has to do with those first couple factors.It's not some black magic.>>123964163Bruh at least look up the common plugins if you want to know what's what. You don't have to use it but you should be knowledgeable>It doesn't sound so blatant though as say in pop/rap/hiphop musicIt's called hard tuning, and basically it's just cranking the intensity (speed) of the retuning.If you turn it down it sounds "natural," even more so with their newer algorithm.
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>>123964597>>123964315Maybe I'm autistic, idk. I just notice a weird sound with autotunes. I have Melodyne but I don't use it, the results never seem natural and I mean even if I'm only slightly pulling a sound up or down to bring it properly on key. It definitely sounds unnatural if I make huge edits, but even subtle ones are way too obvious to my ear and I can't stand it.
holy fuck guys this track is turning out SO GOODlike you have no fucking idea. nobody here would EVER say a mean thing about me or it
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>>123967964What is this?
>>123968693some autistic retard
>>123968696Jaundiced eyes
https://vocaroo.com/1cd2p2gaiU8jI think I fixed my sub. Thoughts on the composition overall?
>>123963169I like the vibe. However, the reverb needs a high pass filter as it washes everything out and the bass needs to be mono on the low end to help tighten things up.
https://voca.ro/1252eoVHikhj what we thinking?
>>123964205Experiment with different mixing for different genres. Find a different flow, maybe?
>>123969322>I think I fixed my sub.No you havent, why the hell do you have sinewaves all the way down to 15 hz?Transpose your bass up a whole octaves, please. That's 12 semitones if you dont know what an octave is
>>123970095lmao
I can't mix kicks for shit or Superior Drummer 3 kicks just all suck. They don't have the click I desire. I wanna get something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmsCSBWDAmA
>meal click kickscringealso that's why you buy ezd instead of sd lol
I just found out that you can tune the computer keyboard to scales in FL studio.
>>123970741welcome to years ago
>>123970606right click credits. producer is buster odeholm. go to his website. he literally sells sample packs.
>>123970813>>123970606also he has a bunch of tutorials specifically about mixing drums. take 5 seconds to google basic shit next timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gao0ATQB9rA&ab_channel=JoeySturgisToneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0F02pLWA3M&ab_channel=URMAcademyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpL3q_ZnKec&ab_channel=URMAcademy
>>123970852superior drummer has incredibly raw kicks that isn't meant for some idiot hobbyist to pick up. it's meant for actual producers
>>123970095great advice, definitely appreciate it anon. Sometime I just don't know my own shit, so a sanity check is helpful
>>123970852can you imagine piling on every single "glue" plugin that youtubers try to sell you and how the mix would sound?
When do I stop sucking?
A new trap beat I made. Any tips on how to get it louder without distorting?https://voca.ro/134sLphNQ3bX
>>123973343the idea is we never stop sucking, we just move up and down the sucking spectrum
>>123973333Here's a free saturation pluginhttps://klanghelm.com/contents/products/IVGI
>>123973703snare is a bit loud for the rest of the drumsi'd eq out some of the lows on that bell arp that plays from the startthat second arp that comes in is cool but sounds a bit too "dusty" for my tastes. its also too loud in the mix, its overpowering everything else melodic>>123969322not a fan of the kick, sounds off key or somethingthe higher harmonics on that main synth are too loud as wellthat "flume'y" synth in the breakdown is shit>>123963169theres a cool idea hiding underneath all of the nonsense youve done with the mix
https://vocaroo.com/1iJw5apXEjafthoughts on the mix?will almost certainly spend the rest of the night trying to add a switch up
>>123970633Well you can't have it sound like an all bass whoosh if they play really fast.
>>123974149You can't ever have it sound like that. All kicks need a click. That EZD anon is retarded, idk what he was trying to imply. Not only metal kicks have click.
>>123973343When you stop adding stuff randomly and hoping itll sound okay, when you stop "hope mixing". Haha.
I freaking love Distorted Reality. Apparenly, Omnisphere is by the same company Spectrasonics. Does Omnisphere have sounds with a similar vibe to Distorted Reality? Thank you.
>>123969520>>123973988Thanks for feedback, i knew its a cool idea it was just a question of whether anyone will see that. I like it when i do something original, in a sense. I will def try to fix the mix, i just discovered valhalla effects so i pretty much went all out with them, lol
