Dionysus editionhttps://youtu.be/mF5ma2zEh1sThis thread is for the discussion of classical music in the western tradition. Early Music, Medieval, Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic and Modern all welcome.>How do I get into classical?This outdated link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFhPrevious thread: >>124786759
>>124797549incel edition
https://youtu.be/tOjQ4j9bLvgEcstatic insanity.
For me, it's Terry Riley - In C.
>>124797577He had children.
>>124797618inceldom is a state of mind
>Sometimes I hear echoes of the Berlin Phil of the past in some dark timbers in the strings but it's like a few drops of water hitting the desert sand. I want the real orchestra back! Oh well, it's just another international musical body lacking distinction at this point. For sure, they can still muster a lot of energy in concert under Rattle when playing something that Rattle cares deeply about. I thought Rattle would be able to summon some kind of whirlwind in the last couple of pieces,The Hut on Fowl's Legs and The Great Gate of Kiev. He is practically forced by the score to use a defibrillator on the performance. It limps toward the finish. Whatever.>He should have never gotten into this area, too many comparisons to Karajan as it is and whenever Rattle plays 19th Century repertoire, it can be really off-putting. I did like his Brahms cycle in concert. Not deeply inspired but alive and about as good as you'll get in today's subpar era.savage and familiar
>>124797718honestly, this concedes too much to rattle
>>124796520>Not even all of them combined outweigh Chopin
Verdihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLL0ZvYJhOs
now playingstart of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 12 in E-Flat Major, Op. 127https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNFWTisgdqI&list=OLAK5uy_mfkL9q86TyeskCYbjpkSG9HYn5RbM2fz8&index=6
So when someone describes a performance as "intelligent," what exactly does that even mean?
Donizettihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuMBc03bHrw
>>124798717I think art cant be described beyond formalism and technical/skill aspects. So I use the reviews and critics just as a proxy. If a reviewer tends to align with my personal preferences and he likes a composer/album I'd check it out. In those cases there is a chance that I also like it. And thats it.
>>124798797>think art cant be described beyond formalism and technical/skill aspects.Fair perspective. I prefer talking about art in terms of what it does, how it affects the observer. A healthy knowledge of the formal aspects and subsequent analysis of them can most certainly aid in that, but on the whole I prefer leaving those kinds of elements to the artists and theorists.
Berliozhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbFBDy2DHR8
>>124798868I also like that aspect. Art is about the experience of something intangible, about the platonic beauty (the Idea). But its hard to translate into words, so it devolves in a vain attempt and a very subjective description that cant reach the same level, so it tends to feel hyperbolic.
>>124799015But anyway, back to Plexamp, lets see what do we have for the night.
>>124799033Harpsichord, lets go
>>124799058you must be the no. 1 patron of every indie classical label there is or something, the likes of cpo and brilliant classics would go out of business recording obscure composers without you.
>>124799075Most classical listeners seem intent on reducing the subject to a few superstar conductors, a few composers from a narrow time band, a few warhorse compositions and all from a small number of labels, who are all consolidated into Universal Music these days. If Karajan didn't record it on DG it might as well not exist.https://youtu.be/ktrXpFWJ7UU?si=0lYUAiNMBATKy1HZ
>>124799216Dangerously, eclectically based
>>124799216
>>124799216very true, celebrity conductors are a cancer. also i'm glad i'm not the only person who's noticed the UMG monopoly on modern orchestral music.
>>124799216Its the Search for Perfection. Can they enjoy the local chamber orchestra? Dont think so. Time is always flying and I understand people that feel there is no point in listening to subpar performances. But I dont share that vision. I mean I am on 4chan.
>>124799386>people that feel there is no point in listening to subpar performances.that doesn't explain why they stick to karajan like flies to shit
>>124799350>very true, celebrity conductors are a cancer.sour graphsIf Rattle offered to become your mentor tomorrow ala Daniel Harding, you'd say yes and be singing their praises before nightfall.nah I kid
>>124799407if rattle offered to become my mentor tomorrow, i'd buddy up to him just to get riccardo chailly's number before ditching his aunt jemima ass.
With the amount of Bach I've been listening to daily as of late, I swear I'll have the entirety of his WTC, Cello Suites, and Solo Violin Partitas and Sonatas committed to memory by the end of the month. The past ten days it's been one book of the WTC, one or two cello suites, and one or two of the solo violin pieces a day.
>>124799418Fair play. Does Chailly have any proteges or anyone of the sort?
>>124799438possibly, but i'm not aware of any.
now playingstart of Bartok: The Miraculous Mandarin, Sz. 73https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd6oSdWihD8&list=OLAK5uy_nzJr7Ain-_DqF9nPsrKrSZxSmZyXle4sk&index=1start of Bartok: Hungarian Peasant Songs, Sz. 100https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UMrRjpK-Lg&list=OLAK5uy_nzJr7Ain-_DqF9nPsrKrSZxSmZyXle4sk&index=11start of Bartok: Suite No. 2, Sz. 34https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEfFQ1E15XI&list=OLAK5uy_nzJr7Ain-_DqF9nPsrKrSZxSmZyXle4sk&index=19>Bartók composed The Miraculous Mandarin (published as ‘A Pantomime in One Act’) at a time of violent unrest in Hungary. The unpleasant Soviet Hungarian Republic had collapsed in 1919 and was replaced by an ultra nationalist regime which persecuted communists, Jews and leftists, and left over 1,500 dead and thousands imprisoned without trial. It is against this bloody political and social backdrop that the composer, recovering from Spanish Flu, set about a musical depiction of Lengyel’s ‘pantomime grotesque’.>Prior to this period, and after the large- scale Suite No.1 of 1905, Bartók commenced work on a second suite. Smaller in scale than No.1 it is imbued with the folk music he had been studying. It was premiered in 1910. Bartók was spared service in World War I after failing several medicals. He spent the war years collecting folk songs and some of these provided material for the Hungarian Peasant Songs, which he returned to in 1933 and orchestrated. This album is the second in a survey of all the composers works for orchestra by Thomas Dausgaard and the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra.
>>124799575>Bartók was spared service in World War I after failing several medicals.Any composers, conductors, or musicians who fought in a war?
>>124799602berg served in WWI and it influenced the writing of wozzeck
>>124799602Ravel and Schoenberg
let's get semi-HIPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMHhf4mH1WM&list=OLAK5uy_lD8fzXifY-swO7I17CS_m_suuoSkZQ5tA&index=1
>>124799428Infeel you. I dont have that memory ofc but I listen so much of Bach that I must do an effort in order to listen to other composers. Otherwise I will never reduce the backlog.
>>124799783>I dont have that memory ofcMe neither, at least for classical music -- I have a wonderful memory for words and text. Which kinda sucks because properly appreciating classical music requires the ability to remember themes and ideas in order to relate them to the piece's structure. It is what it is. If I listen to something often and close enough, though, I can kinda get there, but yeah, it's not common for me either.
someone come see the Seattle Symphony with me
>>124800199not after they chased out dausgaard
feels like a Beethoven 7 nighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBuT3MDz2mg&list=OLAK5uy_lQ-7sN1NEYDfWZJyByAPGpOksm7tzdSo8&index=32
some Scriabin in honor of the threadScriabin: Fantaisie in B Minor, Op. 28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb1CiQlUoPg&list=OLAK5uy_mHgoR3Fc2vcbXqaVnPvmL2D0ZphXcmy2o&index=35>This multi-album set of piano works by Scriabin is the fourth and final installment in Dmitri Alexeev's monumental endeavor to record Scriabin's entire oeuvre for the piano on Brilliant Classics, an eight-album collection that includes the earlier Complete Preludes, Complete etudes and Complete Piano Sonatas. This set gathers all the works that do not belong to the uniform cycles of the previous three releases, and the title captures three interesting trends in this huge range of opus numbers spanning 25 years, without being overly prescriptive. The Mazurkas represent a youthful devotion to Chopin that matured into lifelong inspiration; the many Poemes (whether or not they bear that specific title) are emblematic of the imagery and emotional and spiritual content with which the works are imbued; and the Impromptus evoke Scriabin's mold-breaking compositional freedom and the genius of his idiosyncratic stream of consciousness and individual pianism. There are other noteworthy genres here with an important place in his piano output, including sonata-form movements that ultimately would be stand-alone pieces, nocturnes, other dances, and a pair of album leaves. Many of these pieces provide this collection with valuable continuity, constituting bridges in the development of the composer's art and pianism between the individual sonatas, etudes and preludes that feature in the previous volumes. Or they provide context: for example, the three pieces of Opus 51 given here are the companions to the Prelude Op.51 No.2 that featured alone in the previous prelude cycle. As such they are not a "catch all" but a worthy and indispensable final piece of the puzzle depicting this extraordinary creator.for the Scriabin fans here, definitely make sure to check out Alexeev's other recordings of his music.
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>>124800876i can't
now playingstart of Dvorak: Suite in A Major, Op. 98, B. 190 "American"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUyYHHeAUzA&list=OLAK5uy_kZDSZTPF0jT9ScNnFt8quu4fXD5QxUxwg&index=2start of Dvorak: Symphony No. 9 in E Minor, Op. 95, B. 178 "From the New World"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZvydCEjgsQ&list=OLAK5uy_kZDSZTPF0jT9ScNnFt8quu4fXD5QxUxwg&index=6realized I've never listened to a 21st century Dvorak 9 so here's a random one I found from this year with some good reviews, hopefully it's good. also:>The first album from Nathalie Stutzmann as conductor features Dvorák's well known Symphony No. 9" From The New World" and the lesser known American Suite. Nathalie Stutzmann studied conducting with legendary Finnish teacher Jorma Panula, and has benefited from the mentoring of Simon Rattle and the late Seiji Ozawa. She holds two major posts in the USA - Music Director at the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, and Principal Guest Conductor of The Philadelphia Orchestra - and has guest engagements with the London Symphony Orchestra, Orchestre de Paris, Bayreuth Festival amongst others. Simon Rattle told the NY times: "Nathalie is the real thing. So much love, intensity and sheer technique."wtf how many people has Rattle mentored, I swear I read that sentence a ton.
THIS is it, the most erotic music ever composed:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZddZWi63AG4
>>124797549A Scriabin thread.A Scriabin morning.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRscMclAYMI>>124797594Glad to hear. Chopin's lyrical beauty is next to no one!>>124797511I am currently dwelling within the mystic dominions of ecstasy, but thanks for the persistent concern.>>124798008Thanks sheep.
>>124802041Psych ward time, insomutt
>In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony western canon. But because, I am enlightened by mystic dominions of ecstasy
>>12480206118+ website, lil bro
>>124802086>I am a moment illuminating eternity....I am affirmation...I am ecstasy.-The supreme contrapuntist, Alexandr Scriabin.>>124802097Not your psych ward, insomutt.
>I am a moment illuminating eternity....I am affirmation...I am ecstasy.
>>124802203maybe try /r/classicalmusic instead, they don’t have an age limit lil guy.
>>124802295>I am God! I am nothing, I'm play, I am freedom, I am life. I am the boundary, I am the peak-God himself, Alexandr Scriabinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRfsYQ_Wt1c>>124802299We have age limit here, I suggest you old demented fucks stay out.
>>I am God! I am nothing, I'm play, I am freedom, I am life. I am the boundary, I am the peak
>>124802430we have an age restriction for everyone under 18 here, which includes you bucko. start packin.
>>124802498You have a mental restriction and should be in the local psych ward.
Funeral March sonata finale predicted Scriabin
Scriabin gives me an erection.
>>124802041Correct. Scriabincel is ironically irredeemable.
Hi betifulSend me mystic chord and octatonic voice leading??Octatonic hexachord pic??
>Melody is harmony unfurled, harmony is furled melody-Alexandr ScriabinSo melody is indeed harmony, but unfurled, a.k.a. horizontal. No wonder Scriabin mindbreaks and mentally rapes sistershitter so hard.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qecn0_I8OaU
Scriabin is definitely the most /x/ composer
Prokofiev, Scriabin, Stravinsky. The trinity of classical music.
Prokofiev, Scriabin, Stravinsky. The trinity of pseudo-intellectual trash.
>>124803538Incorrect.>>124803573Correct.
Why was it such a common thing with symphonies in the classical period to start with a slow intro that is almost entirely thematically disconnected from the rest of the first movement? Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven all did this and I never really got why it was specific to symphonies, never heard a piano sonata that opened like that.
>>124803785Introduction? Knowing people are still milling around finding their seats, putting away their iphones.
>>124803824>Iphones in the time of Mozart:/
>>124803824way to out yourself as an apple user
>>124803879>4channer not getting jokes unless an AI draws them a pictureCan a bitch get any dumberhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDMn7uyih34
>>124803920We don't joke, this is a serious thread for serious people
>>124803573Incorrect.>>124803538Correct.
Mozart's strong suit in Absolute Music was Concertos. Mozart is extremely operatic in his writing and it doesn't translate well to a symphony, but it translates exceptionally to a Concerto
I don't know anything about classical musicPlease recommend me some music to sleep toClaire de lune by Debussy is prettymuch what I'm looking for, but something much longer
>>124799737Never got the point of going semi-HIP. If the goal is to replicate performance practice of the time the piece is written, go all the way on trying to be accurate. If it's to sound good, make it fully traditional. Inbetweens don't make sense.Also that's a buff Jesus
>>124804084>>124767767First off: Start with the Baroque period.Generally you need to understand the forms utilized in order to have any beyond surface-level appreciation, luckily I can at least spoonfeed you four common forms you can sink your teeth into quite easily and can get you into listening Baroque music like Bach, Vivaldi and Handel#1 RitornelloThis one is commonly found in Baroque concertos and is quite simple to follow: A melody is introduced in the beginning of the movement that keeps getting repeated, in-between each repetition you have the lead instruments playing a solo over the chord progression of the melody.Examples:https://youtu.be/lQLjP7x3Dughttps://youtu.be/ybwSoY5BuwYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfH3Gfkgzm8https://youtu.be/yHSstJusbWI2# Binary FormThe simplest one of the period, this has two sections: An A-section that repeats once, and then a B-section that repeats once (Note that the performer might also choose to not repeat the sections sometimes). That is it. It is quite simple but quite effective. You will be hearing this one a lot when listening to Baroque music. Most often found in suites (sometimes called Partitas), where all movements besides the prelude will be some type of binary form piece.Examples:Basically every movement in these pieces after their respective preludeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMkmQlfOJDkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmJpbCLZpk8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGQLXRTl3Z0Note: If a baroque dance has a "I-II" in the name, it tends to be in a early Ternary form, with the initial A-section returning at the end.
>>1248041063# The FugueOne of the most important of the period and one of the hardest forms to write, luckily it is not too difficult to listen to if you pay attention. The fugue has it's history in Gregorian chant, and therefore is written as if it were a vocal composition utilizing different "voices" which are slotted into each vocal voice range.A fugue begins with an exposition, this is the most important part for you to pay attention to: A single voice will introduce the subject (i.e main melody) of the fugue, this subject will then be repeated in another voice with the previous voice providing counterpoint (Different melodies that are meant to harmonize the main melody while also standing on their own). This repeats until every voice has played the melody once. After this, it is not too dissimilar from a ritornello (at least in the case of Bach), with the main melody returning in different voices. There will also often be counter-subjects present that also return, but this depends on the fugue.You will see the fugue almost everywhere in Baroque music (Note that most fugues are accompanied by a prelude, as noted in most titles. The prelude in the examples I give and 99% of the time is melodically disconnected from the fugue and mainly serves as a free form movement. Still, attention is warranted as they are as important as the fugue in terms of the overall expierence.)Examples:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbox4oi6HjAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfnkz1cFp8ghttps://youtu.be/BoXCHmLqh9k4# Theme and VariationsYou will find this one in almost all periods of classical music and therefore also the Baroque period. In it's early usage mainly used for church hymn melodies, it provides a main theme with a simple harmonization that then gets variations placed upon it based on that original theme.Examples:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF-2aJY6dpohttps://youtu.be/qnCqOKE9N4Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYfKWyeichEHappy listening, anon!
>>124804094That's a fair point. I suppose it'd be something like "we can make Bach sound good without straying too far" or something. In any case I just care if the performance sounds good, and that one was solid, can always trust Layton for a good choral recording. But I still prefer my traditionals.
>>124804122Personally, I find it a little silly. Then again, I find most HIP pretty silly due to how poorly they recreate the historical sound.That does make me wonder, what HIP group is most research heavy and follows the actual writings on performance practice most accurately?
>>124804141Well, again, I don't care one iota for accuracy, whenever I listen to HIP recordings I see them as merely another way of playing Bach, and how it sounds is my only measuring stick. Sometimes I feel like listening to, say, the Mass in B minor with smaller or even singular voices solely for its own aesthetic differences and benefits. Historical fidelity never even crosses my mind.But yes I agree, most tend to sound really bad. There's enough people who do like them though that I feel like giving them a shot every so often.
I like the use of Period Instruments.
now playingstart of Prokofiev: Symphony No. 4 in C Major, Op. 112https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOQV0csyh-g&list=OLAK5uy_kxWvCrKoML20P2Nl9U2EIIjzPvwGh3ntk&index=2start of Prokofiev: Symphony No. 7 in C-Sharp Minor, Op. 131https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU0r2cjk2AA&list=OLAK5uy_kxWvCrKoML20P2Nl9U2EIIjzPvwGh3ntk&index=5Litton's Prokofiev is stellar, essential listening.
>>124791617downsampled from 24-96 to 16-48 with sox i also retagged them to have the appearance of an anthology so that when all quartets are brought together they can live together as one albumhttps://litter.catbox.moe/8rrcos.zip
>>124804740Jesus, that's lewd.Not that anon but will be checking these out, thanks.
>>124804740Thanks fren :D
>>124804740But it only contains 8-10, none of the others ;-;
>>124804800im doing nos. 11, 12 & 13 right now >>124791693
Today? Teleman.
>>124804921Telemann*
>>124801967It's also motivated me to give Chopin's other piano sonatas and Rachmaninoff's another listen today.>>124796167>As much as I like the smaller pieces, they are just as unsatisfying (kind of) as very long, 1 hour+ long pieces. For me there's a sweet spot, which is ranging from 8-50 min. So I prefer nocturnes, ballades, sonatas, concertos etc.I feel that, but on the other hand, as opposed to sonatas or other long-form pieces, with stuff like preludes and etudes, you can really listen to any individual piece from it. Now, I also prefer listening to them holistically, start to finish, but one doesn't have to is all I'm saying.
>>124804781linux has no problems reading colons in file names so it passed me by here's a corrected link which expires in 3 days https://litter.catbox.moe/vydkoq.zip
What's a good recording of Beethoven sonata 32? Preferably one that also got an upload with the sheet music present on-screen.
>>124805121This channel is great for both of those, quality recordings with the score on screen to follow along.Pogorelichhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE2iyBRmA_gUchidahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGg9cE-ceso
Beethoven>Sonatas>String Quartets>SymphoniesWhere did he excel the most at?
>>124805538Sonatas
>>124805538Symphonies>>124805570His sonatas were literally just beta testing for his symphonies
>>124805538The way I look at it is are there symphonies since Beethoven that are on his level? Yes. How about piano sonatas? Arguable. On the level of his late string quartets? Definitely not. So, where did he most excel? The string quartets. But the piano sonatas are very close, and I wouldn't argue with anyone who said those.
>>124805643>are there symphonies since Beethoven that are on his level? Yes.I can't think of any.
>I've been doing a lot of Bruckner of late. I just finished reviews of the 2nd and 6th on Naxos. (Great performances they are, too!!) Now this, and it's all a bit too much of a good thing. This experience is crowning one. As I listened to this, and Bruno Walter's recording, I kept muttering scatological explications and shaking my head. In a nutshell, Chailly's Bruckner is more Arthurian to Walter's Wagnerian. Now, if you can tell me what the hell that means, let me know. It is what came out of my pen, however. I will attempt an explanation.fuckin' music critics...
>The relevance of [Bruckner's great art today] is perhaps due to the fact that it directs our awareness towards the sphere of the absolute, forcing us to abandon the usual historical methods which, in the fullest sense of the word, 'encumber' modern man's direct communication with the art of the past…Bruckner did not work for the present; in his art he thought only of eternity and he created for eternity.- Furtwängler, as quoted in Steinberg's book (p.96)before the German Bruckner Society, 1939
https://youtu.be/CadOkPwyw-gThe real beethovenThe one heard by manyBefore the corruption...W.
>>124802571>mental restrictionindian child moment
>>124805170both dogshit recordings of op. 111>>124805538sonatas were his workbench for testing out novel ideas, symphonies were his warhorse statement pieces, but string quartets were where he refined and polished his best ideas
>>124805749>i’m a shitty composer and i huff my own farts- chinless incel william fartwrangler
>>124806702String Quartets are just beta testing for symphonies, sonatas were alpha testing
>>124806719considering the late quartets were written after the 9th, this makes no sense whatsoever
>>124806732he would have written a 10th had he lived longer.
>>124806738and he would probably have written more quartets too, along with a sixth piano concerto and a modal cantata. why speculate on things that never came to pass.
Symphonies are what pays the bills. Quartets are what you do to chill with your composer bros. Piano sonatas are pure art, a composer alone with his thoughts.
>>124806762you realize that 19th century composers had a whole cottage industry of selling piano music for amateurs to play at home, right? piano music was the biggest moneymaker of that era, not cumbersome orchestral works that get performed once a season.
now playingstart of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 13 in B-Flat Major, Op. 130https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKFUdF94Bps&list=OLAK5uy_n4HIyJw5G3_VxdhZXTpv-QpKoJZZoNii8&index=5
https://files.catbox.moe/hxyrjs.mp3
Now Frescobaldi and friends
>>124806875I have not yet finished the 16 discs of André Isoir's version.
What's the best recording of the Missa Solemnis?
>>124807046There are many great ones, but if I had to pick just one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPf1iKitQ7E
>>124807046szell, buglady avatarfag>>124807074ralph moore is that you?
>tfw Bartok's string quartets finally starting to click:)
>>124807074>>124807079Thanks, friends
>>124807098Hope you enjoy!
now playingstart of Humperdinck: String Quartet in C Majorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5wIT0x8xcA&list=OLAK5uy_ls-E7vGLDyA39uM1YQpaKEo8Y8QnwIjeA&index=1start of Humperdinck: Piano Quintet in G Majorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVjmw-GFeNc&list=OLAK5uy_ls-E7vGLDyA39uM1YQpaKEo8Y8QnwIjeA&index=4>The music world associates Humperdinck first and foremost with his fairy-tale operas. Chamber music accounts for only a relatively small portion of his oeuvre, but should not be underestimated in its importance. This release presents the String Quartets and première recording of the Piano Quintet. In the Piano Quintet especially, the catchy themes and its wonderfully melodious middle movement, represent a valuable contribution to late-romantic literature off the beaten track.Quite the name this composer has. Anyone familiar? I'm going in blind, solely because it was recorded by the talented and wonderful Diogenes Quartet, and I wanted to see what other releases they had aside from their brilliant Schubert cycle and this was the one I decided to try first, with their Bruch set to follow shortly.
>>124805170pfff hahahahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxvAV5_PY1k
>>124806702>>124807338Okay but they wanted one with the score following along too.
>>124804974>you can really listen to any individual piece from it.Which are small and don't really carry the same weight as longer, more thematically complex pieces. And listening holistically doesn't work, even with Chopin's preludes which are arranged in circle of fifths(closely related keys). My attention just drifts away for some reason, maybe it's just me. I do love the preludes and etudes (mazurkas etc), but only on the occassion, if the tune pops up in my mind. I also love to play some of the preludes on the piano because they're so easy (C and E minor) and because I can't play the ballades yet lol (my biggest motivation for learning piano).>>124806668Insomutt got BTFO by god himself >>124803350. I think it's about time. You have to stop embarrassing yourself. Never reply to me again and save both of our time.
Man, these Bax symphonies are so close to being good but they're missing fundamental quality themes to build around. Such a shame because they have everything else, including a wonderfully gorgeous aesthetic. Good for background music I guess. Hopefully someone here will like them more than I do, or they'll eventually click with me someday.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8Gr_QMaePs&list=OLAK5uy_mV1DfkcfXP6ZxiPbA2pgckqDrhKLRDj4o&index=1His singular orchestral pieces are pretty good though I must say.
>>124807363sucks to be them>>124807416a lot of incoherent babble from such a small child LOL
>>124806702Pogorelich is easily the best op. 111
>>124807425So you chose to embarrass yourself, bizzare. One would think getting BTFO by god himself would be humbling.
>>124807461LMFAO no>>124807506sorry, i’m not hindu, i don’t pray to the god of dying from razor burn.
>>124807513Non sequitur yap.
>From the looks of it, Klaus Makela is the new Karajan, wanted everywhere at the once.>The new young Karajan!>I'll make it simple. This is one of the worst Sibelius cycles I ever heard. Interpretation-wise, the symphonies are choppy in structure and lack the the woodwind power and emphasis that Sibelius is famous for. That orchestration is unbalanced.>He really doesnt know how to conduct yet. Hurky jerky.Fug it, let's find out.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhLg44JPJ60&list=OLAK5uy_k6jEf_W7WZfCBF0G1ipS5jRqqgiqNyPiQ&index=12
>>124807529underage indian child yap>>124807531i pray you come out the other side with your sanity intact
>>124807531From the looks of it, it should be good. >>124807564Incoherent babble.
>>124807578 indian child babble
>>124807590Mutt prattle
>>124807599>b-but americans!cried the indian child
>>124807610Total meltdown kek
>>124807578>From the looks of it, it should be good.Apparently it has a lot of criticism online and from critics (not unanimously, of course), but I think a lot of people are overly critical of wunderkind conductors on spec. Hell, even I feel a tinge of professional envy and I have no desire to be a conductor! So we'll see. One movement into the 4th and it's definitely heavily affected but that's not necessarily a bad thing, and with Sibelius it might even be a good thing, the music could use a little (read: a ton of) spicing up.
>>124807622>y-you’re mad!exclaimed the indian child>>124807637you’re replying to some kid from mumbai, think about the amount of breath you’re wasting for a second.
>>124807637>overly critical of wunderkind conductorsTrue. Young, blond, blue-eyed and good-looking finnish conductor would get a lot of hate by the likes of this guy:>>124807648Exclaimed the mutt!
>>124807675>b-but americans!he screamed impotently
>>124807681le 56 moment
>>124807692le 100% indian child moment
>>124807706Mutt proposed calmly
>>124807720>b-but americans!lol, indians really not doing themselves a solid with these kinds of comebacks
now playingstart of Debussy: Images, Livre I, CD 105, L. 110https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j46JrgqNTVs&list=OLAK5uy_mKwf-PKx-ziP19hNPRY4IYVLtp5IdXZ6g&index=2start of Debussy: 12 Études, CD 143, L. 136https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flXFX8HFHo0&list=OLAK5uy_mKwf-PKx-ziP19hNPRY4IYVLtp5IdXZ6g&index=7I really like this review:>It's hard to believe, listening to this CD, that Debussy's music was written almost hundred years ago. One reason for this is that Aimard seems to have re-invented the Debussy sound according to his own modernist lights. We've had early recordings by the likes of Cortot who played Debussy as a classic with little emphasis on the hammerless blur of sound, and then more recent ones by folks like Arrau or Gieseking who did the opposite and tend to make Debussy sound soft-edged. Aimard has re-emphasized his ferocity, especially in the Études. Even in the 'Images' that include such impressionistic favorites as 'Reflets dan l'eau' and 'Poissons d'or,' he tends not to stick around and glory in the hazy wash of sound usually associated with Debussy. That sound is not present in all that Debussy wrote, and it is a mistake to play it all that way. Aimard understands this. At times, especially in the Études, he sounds almost as if he were playing a modern like Prokofiev. I will admit my bias: I like this approach. Maybe all these decades of hearing mushy Debussy, hyper-atmospheric Debussy, has led me to this stance, but there you are. At any rate, Aimard brings something fresh to his approach. But it is not all of a piece. Sometimes, for instance as in 'Hommage à Rameau' he gets precisely the right balance of rhythmic precision and harmonic overlap. In others, like the études 'Pour les notes répétées' and 'Pour les sixtes,' fierce clarity gives us an almost Ligetian modernity. He gives all he plays rhythmic point and backbone.[cont.]
>>124807763>The Études have always been step-children in the Debussy canon. Many major pianists simply ignored them. Others openly disdained them. Fortunately recent pianists, like Michiko Uchida, have placed them high on their list. It is clear that Aimard has done the same, and for me these are the best overall recordings of them I've ever heard.>Highly recommended.>TT 75'06">Scott MorrisonCheck it out!
>>124807734Mutt said calmly
>>124807832>b-but americans!keep saying it, ranjeet
>>124807846Onwards to psych ward mutt
>>124807969>back to the same old spamLOL, indian children really can’t banter
>>124807531Who's the new Bernstein?
>>124807987March onwards to >>>/b/ for banter, spammut
>>124807074One of the best if you ignore everything but the soloists.>>124807338Yudina's Op. 111 is so manic, I just love it.>>124807531I find Makela disappointing. Not because he's bad, but because he's not bad enough. He's in that range of perfect mediocrity that means he simply isn't entertaining to listen to, period. He would be better if he was worse.
>>124807989michael tilson thomas desperately wants that to be him, but i doubt anyone sees him as anything other than a wannabe. >>124808012try reddit for an underage friendly website, indian child
>>124807989Wouldn't be allowed to graduate if you conducted like Bernie.
>>124807046This has been asked a thousand times at this point.
So Haydn finally clicked for me. Thank you symphony no 88 and whatever one was the clock one
>>124808066Hey, anything to encourage people wanting to get into music's greatest masterpieces. I'm happy to answer the same questions everyday if it'll genuinely help someone get into what we're all here for.
>>124808062you kidding? every wannabe conductor and even some professional ones conducts like bernstein now; if not in interpretation, then in technique. >>124808092you’re not helping by recommending some of the worst recordings of said masterpieces ever made.
>>124808104Good thing anyone can answer and they can make up their mind from there.
>>124808082As far as his symphonies go, 86 and 99 are another two really fantastic ones that are easy to get into. Try his Creation oratorio as well.
>>124808110at that point why even make recommendations? just send them a gramophone article and tell them to figure it out on their own
anyone else love Maisky's Bach?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pzhur47veY&list=OLAK5uy_nwTvmGslb_QBNzk39Mo6yNdVKXyKclSk8&index=63Perfect
>>124808150If they didn't require a sub, I would. Plus, they're asking us, what posters here like, so that's the answer they get. Ideally I would do both.
>>124808154That's the only cello suites recording I've listened to, and also one of my first classical experiences.>>124808047Try /b/anter, mutt.
>>124808168gramophone articles don’t require a subscription, and you can bypass newsletter subscriptions with archive.is. >they're asking us, what posters here likeno, they’re asking for the best recording. >Ideally I would do both.extremely moronic, none of this actually answers their question. >>124808177indian child tries to come up with a comeback that isn’t “b-but americans” challenge (impossible)
>>124808042lol fair enough
>>124808202>gramophone articles don’t require a subscription,I get blocked all the time, I think you get a few free ones every month or something.>and you can bypass newsletter subscriptions with archive.is.That's stealing!!
>>124808202Mutt insomniac tries to come up with a comeback that isn't "muh indian child!" challenge (impossible)
>>124808223journalists deserve more than just to be stolen from, it’s really the least we can do. >>124808232being an indian child is against the global rules, lil bro. no one gives a shit about americans.
>>124801183Erotic like two fat people having sex on a single bed
>>124808307they couldn’t even afford a second bed?
>>124808297Americans are as bad as indians though. And you clearly are one.
>>124808324They broke the first
>>124808325LOL, don’t flatter yourself, ranjeet. and no, i’m still not american, nor do i ever intend on trading my highly valuable passport for an objectively inferior american one. >>124808341none for me and one for my hooker….
>>124808325>>124808405music?
>>124808422the indian child is physically incapable of discussing music, only fellating it (and only the shittiest pianowankers for some reason)
>>124804106>>124804114Awful advice
Going blind into pic
>>124804740Wheres da rest
Not sure why the mods don't just ban the trannyjanny even if they aren't breaking the rules. It would significantly improve this general right away.
>>124808405LOL you are an amerimutt, we all know that already.>>124808422Listen to Prokofiev.
>>124808460The cover makes it look like it's called Shasse Serpents
>>124808488True.
>>124808488>mods ban anybody i don’t like!LOL>>124808507>b-but americans!and we’re back to our regularly scheduled programming
Yeah basically. Someone who does frequently break the rules and shits up every single general should be removed, it would vastly improve the quality of the general not sure why anyone would be against that
>>124808567>mommy mommy he’s bullying me! ban hiiiiiim!!!!!LMFAO, bad day to be a schizo
>>124808533>b-but muh indiakek. You have severe cognitive dissonance
>>124808618yeah, indians are fucking disgusting, and children don’t belong on this website. it’s a pretty reasonable complaint.
>>124804680I do too. I don't care about historical performance practises, I just like hearing instruments from the period it was written. Adds a unique color to it
>>124808626Reasonable, but completely irrelevant to the matter. Go over to >>>/pol/ for such complaints.
>>124808668it’s very relevant when both are applicable to you, indian child
>>124808596LOl you're not a bully, you're just a retard taking a dump on the floor
>>124808672and you’re the retard picking up my shits off the floor and squealing about them getting all over your hands like a pig. sucks to be you.
>>124808683Sure the other option is just leaving the shit on the floor, you're still sitting in a room filled with shit
>>124808710sure, be my guest. don’t let the door hit you on your way out!
will I ever come to like Bach's Brandenburg Concertos? I hope so :/
>>124808721Be my guest what? Try using English next time
>>124808671They are not, mutt insomniac.
>>124808753be my guest with leaving the room, illiterate schizo. >>124808755they sure are, indian kiddo
>>124808771And that is exactly why you must march onwards to psych ward!
>>124808785>he’s falling back to the same old spamLOL, i don’t think india is ever going to recover from these optics
Skrjabin.
>>124808800Another proof that you must be marching to psych ward>>124808801Hyper based.
>>124806135The way Beethoven wanted it to be heard:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzx-bw6nBqo
>>124808812>another proofyou gotta finish up those ESL classes before you start posting on english speaking websites, kiddo. india will never be a superpower with this kind of grammar!
>>124808771Neither of us mentioned anything about that, so it's not illiteracy it's poor writing on your part.
>>124808800>>he’s falling back to the same old spamImagine being the trannyjanny and having the chutzpah and lack of self awareness to say something like this. Can you imagine someone posting the same old spam all the time?
>>124808826Yet another proof that you must march to psych ward.
>>124808667Yep. And as an early music fan I always found them charming.
>>124808848i mentioned it, illiterate schizo. go on, we’re all waiting for you to take your leave. >>124808865sorry, i don’t speak hebrew, could you try that one in english?>>124808872india’s best and brightest, everyone.
>>124808297>journalists deserve more than just to be stolen from, it’s really the least we can do.The same for trannyjannies
>>124808892and schizos like you deserve to be taken in as wards of the state for as long as your tormented lives last for. it’s the least we can do for someone so underprivileged.
>>124808104>>124808202>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo ONly the recordings I like are good!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!11
>>124808923nice selfie schizo sister, maybe try posting it on >>>/soc/ instead?
>>124808885Walk slowly to psych ward.>>124808904Correct.
>>124808933>Correct.Meant for >>124808892 (correct)
>>124808933keep taking those ESL classes in highschool apu, you need em. >>124808951LOL, typical indian fail
>>124808958Walk slowly over to the psych ward.
>>124808985beg me in hindi, ranjeet, i can’t quite make out your english past your best buy geeksquad accent
>>124808997From circus to the asylum, what a journey!
>>124809012did you say that one while bobbling your head back and forth? LOL
>>124807531>Hurky jerky.What?
>>124809022Truly a journey worth telling about. So tell us!
>>124809028i don’t know, i don’t watch bollywood movies. you’ll have to inform the rest of us on the plotline of your favorites.
>>124809050Oh I would love to know about your journey from circus to psych ward, quite intriguing.
>>124809084you’re the one obsessed with bollywood, you tell me.
>>124809105Oh! I didn't know you called your own life "bollywood"! Not a big fan tho.
>>124809163>he’s admitting to being obsessed with meLOL, not beating the homosexuality allegations with this one
>>124809168Yes, I'm glad you admit you are obsessed with me, that's why you literally can not stop replying to me kek
>>124809192>uh actually YOU’RE the one who’s obsessed with meyeah, i’m sure you wish that were true lil apu.
>>124809200Literally obsessed kek.
>>124809237sure thing lil apu, be sure to keep track of what time i go to bed tonight!
>>124809248>lil apu,Aww. Thanks insomniac, and I'll remind you to go to sleep promises!
>>124808819No one asked Beethoven.
>>124809337don’t flatter yourself ranjeet, you’re more along the lines of this sort of apu
>>124808154He's really good, but he also has plenty of fuckups. There is one performance of Shostakovich's Cello Concerto where he misses a note literally in the first bar
>>124809354Time for bed!
>>124809368i don’t live in mumbai like you rakesh, it’s not nighttime where i am.
Post your top 5 favorite composers
>>124809395Not like you could sleep at night LOL
>>124809406indian insults are weird man, i’m sure it makes a lot more sense in hindi though.
>>124809401Rachmaninoff, Brahms, Chopin, Prokofiev and the god himself, goes by the name Alexandr.>>124809410I'm sure you'll never get enough sleep outside psych ward, insomniac mutt.
>>124809441could you explain these hindi insults to us? they make no sense in english.
>>124809401Idk something like1. Ravel2. Debussy3. Steve Reich 4. Liszt5. Stravinksy maybe
>>124809466lol, lmao, rofl even
>>124809453Why are you saying they're Indian?
>>124809472Fuck off trannyjanny
>>124809477have you read their posts?>>124809489>obsessed schizo is a reich fanLMFAO, it’s starting to add up
>>124809498Uh huh. There's nothing about them being from India
>>124809511it’s pretty fucking obvious when he’s unable to go 2 sentences without making basic grammatical errors.
>>124805538Sonatas desu
>>124809515No it isn't at all. Most people don't give a shit about making sure their posts are perfectly gramatically spelled in this shithole. Hell in the past people would have assumed you're drunk or high or tired or don't care rather than Indian. And anyway the majority of their posts are basically fine.
>>124801183What do you think of Wagner's only symphony?
>>124809535most people don’t NEED to give a shit about making sure their posts are grammatically correct, it comes naturally with being a native english speaker. his extremely consistent and total ineptitude at something so basic is damning evidence that he is some sort of stinky brown person with very little self awareness. >anyway the majority of their posts are basically fine.absolutely fucking not LOL, half his posts are shit like “walk slowly to psych ward” over and over, because the dumbass doesn’t know what articles are.
>>124805538either the sonatas or the quartets
>>124809559No they don't. Being a native speakers doesn't mean you always write flawlessly with 0 mistakes LMAO Most people make a ton of mistakes. You saying something like that makes it sound like you aren't a native speaker yourself. Accept it you have no actual proof and you've decided if you just say over and over again like a petulant child. >at he is some sort of stinky brown personHAHAHA LE RACISM Fuck off back to /pol/ cunt
Now Monteverdy with a lewd cover
>>124809598>Being a native speakers doesn't mean you always write flawlessly with 0 mistakessure, i make mistakes all the time too. but when the mistakes are extremely consistent over an extended period of time (literal months at this point), it stops being negligence and starts being incompetence. the guy himself has admitted that english is like his fourth language or something so i have no idea why you’re even trying to die on such a pointless hill. >NOOOOOOOO STOP MAKING FUN OF THE HECKIN BROWN PEOPLElol, lmao, rofl even
>>124809640>SMELLY Farty poo poo brown People HAHAHAYou genuinely have the mind of a 8 year old child
>>124809663said the guy whiteknighting for a literal 8 year old child
>>124809640>guy himself has admitted that english is like his fourth language or something so i have no idea why you’re even trying to die on such a pointless hill.LMAO not all. It's just that no one has pointed out that you have zero basis for this Indian bullshit until now they just ignore you like the special needs child you are.. Bear in mind I have a memory, that anon made one mistake (1) and from point in your mind they were Indian, I remember it happening and I could probably even point out the post to you . I'm getting a little worried about you, you're starting to actually believe your own bullshit, it's scary.
>>124809670>said the guyOnly real life soijaks and redditors use this phrase, which one are you?
>>124786819>yes, i am not interested in discussing nonmusical topics. because i am a musician posting on the music board in a thread about classical music. if you have something to post that’s related to music, feel free to, i’m all ears.
>>124809740The hypocrisy is the worst part
>>124807763It's a shame because that first etude is the worst of the bunch, I'm sick of it
>>124809705>you have zero basis for this Indian bullshitmy basis is that his english is beyond comically bad and his insults are usually nonsensically impotent, like an arab telling you that he wants to throw his shoe at you. it’s that simple. >that anon made one mistakeLOL this is so easy to disprove in this thread alone that i don’t even know why you would try to claim this. here’s a list of posts from him in a SINGLE thread containing egregious grammatical errors (i have to remove the quotation arrows because there are literally so many of them that the site thinks that i'm mass replying): >>124802430>>124807416>>124807675>>124807969>>124808785>>124808812124808872124808933124809012124809028124809084124809441and this is, i repeat, just ONE THREAD. this guy has been obsessively replying to me for months, you think i haven't seen literal hundreds of grammatical errors from his ass? fuck right off LOL>I remember it happening and I could probably even point out the post to youi just pointed out over a dozen posts from him in this very thread alone that contain egregious and consistent grammatical errors, so why don't you go ahead and do the same and back up your words with proof? >>124809711bizarre nonsensical assertion>>124809740well? go on, start discussing music anytime.
>>124809824Kek nice fail. stop posting TJ
>>124809908pray tell, what fail, schizo sister?
>>124809824All of these are fine. You genuinely retarded and not a native speaker if you can't understand these or you're just a nitpicker. Again this place is a shithole no one cares about absolutely perfect grammar and mistakes happen. You failed and just proved your autism even more. You have no basis for your Indian assertion you just made it up
>>124809824I mean if we're going to nitpick everyone single one of your posts is spelled wrong since none of them are capitalized properly.
>>124809941>All of these are fine.they're really fucking not dude. a native english speaker would not make these mistakes so consistently. >or you're just a nitpicker. or my point is less that his posts are incomprehensible (and honestly, sometimes they are) and more that his posts are full of the same simple grammatical errors that a native speaker wouldn't make. it's really not that hard to grasp dude, if you weren't a disingenuous concern troll faggot it'd be pretty readily apparent. >You failed and just proved your autism even more.honestly considering your english is no better, you may as well be him. no wonder you're so desperate to defend someone that's obviously indefensible LOL, what a sad showing. also, it's pretty fucking telling that you take issue with someone being called an indian, but not the same person accusing me of being american despite all the statements to the contrary. really makes you think... >>124809953obsessed
>>124809987DID U HECKIN MAKE A TINY GRAMMAR ERROR!!! THAT MEANS U'RE AN INDIAN!! IRREFUTABLE PROOF
>>124809762he feeds off attention so it's probably a good idea to ignore him entirely. it is december after all the month in which it was declared that the spam war would stop. of course his habit of spamming endless garbage have been part of this general for years. that shouldnt be a reason to encourage him anymore than anon already has. for instance, why has his third most recent post received three replies? it just fuels the kid's motive to continue behaving like a child.
>>124809996cute selfie, but /classical/ really isn't the right place for it. maybe try >>>/soc/?
>>124809987I still can't believe you took the time to compile these minor mistakes in a big list that proves that person is an Indian like the fucking loser you are. Do you seriously not have anything better to do?
>>124810006didn't you say you were gonna lurk moar, newfag kiddo? whatever happened to that? >>124810016it took me 10 minutes to put it together and it's my sunday off. do YOU have anything better to do than to die on the most hilariously pointless hill of all time?
>>124810006I have been considering this . They are a fairly cancerous poster. Most likely ignoring them is the best way forward but I can't help myself sometimes-that seems to have been the policy in the old sister poster days
>>124810034>it took me 10 minutes to put it together and it's my sunday off. That's a no then. That was actually a rhetorical question though. I know you are a fucking loser you didn't actually need to reply I was just mocking you
>The trannyjanny assembling spelling and grammar error to prove a random anon is Indian(they aren't)
>>124810049as it turns out, in the civilized world, we're allowd to spend our weekends off doing whatever we want. in my case, i'm spending my first weekend off after finishing all my final projects shitposting on 4chan and playing elden ring while my girlfriend cooks me dinner. what about you? >>124810072real nice selfie bro, but it's just the wrong thread on the wrong board for it. i think you want >>>/soc/
>>124810037it was a lot better prior to anons commitment of spamming all throughout november. you could tell too, for his presence wasn't as strong as it has been over the past month. just remember he's a little kid.
>>124810106the autistic schizophrenic tranime poster complaining about people younger than him is definitely one of my favorite characters in nu-/classical/
>>124810104You're taking a break from your day job of shittposting on 4chan all day every single day by shitposting on 4chan. Good for you anon you've earned it >while my girlfriendROFLMAO, first actually funny thing you've said
>>124810126What does your *ahem* 'girlfriend' (lol) think about you shitposting all day on 4chan
>>124810134the same 3 retards on /classical/ vehemently asserting that they know everything about my life will never not be funny>>124810144she finds it funny that i have a whole thread of retards at my beck and call, and quite frankly, i do too.
>>124810106Yeah that was one anons personal crusade, I actually wasn't here for most of November
>>124810153LOL are you actually pretending she's real kek There's a 97% percent chance she's a homemade fleshlight with a face drawn on. In the very, very small chance she's real she's probably a fat slut with a learning disability.>she finds it funny that i have a whole thread of retards at my beck and call, and quite frankly, i do too.You're a very important person like the President or something
>>124810157it's odd too i mean anon had been emphatic about the date his spam would stop but he got so into it that we're now half way into december with no end in sight
>>124810181i'm apparently so important that i have a gaggle of retards trying to sus out every detail of my life, down to my sleep schedule and the details of my girlfriend (all wrong as usual btw LOL), it's pretty entertaining.
>>124810213I don't give a shit about your life at all anon. You were just forthcoming with personal information unprovoked. Anyway I think you've reached your allowance of (You)s I think it's time to cut you off
>>124810207I'm surprised they did keep it up so long actually for all of November even
>>124810249>I don't give a shit about your life at all anon.LMAO said the faggot scrutinizing the details of my sunday evening and the precise amount of time it took me to make a compilation of indian grammatical errors. get real with yourself lil guy. >>124810261i'm not, it's pretty obvious that his daily schedule revolves around giving us all a display of indian excellence on the world wide web.
>>124810104>playing vidya gamesdropped, unsubbed, chargeback'd on donationsI say after I quit my three year dream job of playing video games for money a year ago.
now playingJS Bach: WTC Book II: Prelude and Fugue No. 18 in G-Sharp Minor, BWV 887https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6ooOgZJ_w&list=OLAK5uy_m4AnnQ8PQPKQtAUIL2ELYmat08fKLgg3U&index=42
>>124810482i never get time to play video games anymore man, my buddy keeps wanting to finish our seamless coop elden ring run and this semester has been kicking my ass so hard that i have to say no more often than not. did you try to become a twitch streamer or something? LOL
>>124810529I kid, that's always good to make time for side hobbies, though I'm often more monomaniacal. So long as you have your priorities in order.>did you try to become a twitch streamer or something? LOLA lot of my good friends did/do. I just made money playing the game itself and selling the in-game currency made from PVP for irl $$$. Was a dream I'm glad I checked off the bucketlist but it was time to move on.
>>124810559if i didn't just write like 15 pointless compositions that sound awful for final projects, i'd probably be doing that instead of gaming. i have a couple actual serious pieces i need to make progress on this winter break, incidentally something that's impossible during the actual school semester because of how much ungodly pointless work gets assigned. isn't it ironic? >I just made money playing the game itself and selling the in-game currency made from PVP for irl $$$. is this some sort of MMO or crypto game? crazy
>>124810595>isn't it ironic?lol a tad but I guess you've got the rest of your life for that; for now is developing the skills and gaining the knowledge in order to later accomplish that. Of course, doing some on the side now is always a good idea.>is this some sort of MMO or crypto game? crazyYeah, Old School Runescape. It was a great time.
>>124809401MahlerBrahmsBrucknerBeethovenBachhonorable mentions: Shostakovich, Prokofiev, Liszt
>>124810637i dunno, a lot of it is really just busywork for the sake of busywork. but oh well, it is what it is. my fault for being stupid enough to get a degree in a subject with no career prospects. >Yeah, Old School Runescape. It was a great time.nice, i know a lot of people into OSRS. i try to stay far away from MMO skinnerboxes though, too much of a timesink for an unpaid job (or in your case, i guess a paid job)
>>124810637Lol when were you playing that for money?
>>124810682There will be career opportunities I imagine, just requires networking and being the top percentile of your field. But worst case, you can always segue into something else once you have a degree.>nice, i know a lot of people into OSRS.Oh that's what's up! Glad to know it's still alive and popular haha. If they're into PvP/'PKing,' they might know me! And god, yeah, they really are, I literally did nothing else the entire time because I wanted so bad to be one of the best in the world.>>124810722I quit just over a year ago, before I go back into classical music and started browsing here :)
There's so many goddamn competent chamber ensembles these days, how am I supposed to find the time to both listen to the recordings of those I come across and discover new ones? I guess the solution is to be really strict, determine whether to stick around or move on based on the first piece I listen to, but that has the drawback of sample size; what if it's the one piece they didn't do a great job in? Christ.
>>124810778>you can always segue into something else once you have a degree.i know more than a couple guys that plan on doing this. one is interested in passing the bar and the other wants to get into med school. apparently music majors have one of the highest acceptance rate percentages into med school of any degree, or so he tells me. >I literally did nothing else the entire time because I wanted so bad to be one of the best in the world.i know that feeling and i resent the fact that i do. what a colossal waste of time.
>>124810819Dont overhelm yourself. We never have enough time. Just find a "method" and stick to it. Forget about fomo.
>>124809401BachMozartHaydnBrahmsSchubert
>>124810835Right, so I wouldn't worry about it. Either you're be one of the lucky few to find a career in your main field, or you take one of the many fallback, segue options. The main risk is if you try for the first route and don't notice the signs you aren't gonna make it until it's too late.>i know that feeling and i resent the fact that i do. what a colossal waste of time.That's what's required. Did I miss out a ton in some of the prime years of my life? Absolutely. Did I also cross off one of my bucketlist dream life goals? Yep, and on my deathbed I will have a smile on my face knowing I did. Like I said, just gotta know what your priorities are, and I know mine. Now for me to apply that same level of dedication and focus to my other remaining goal in life... :^)
>>124810859>Dont overhelm yourself.Too late, George is gettin' upset, Jerry! Nah, you're right.
>Given the paucity over the last decade of Dvorák late symphonies recordings (not to mention complete cycles) it’s both surprising and pleasing to see this new release from Deutsche Grammophon featuring one of its front-line artists. But this shouldn’t be the case. The fact that since 2012 there have been at least nine new Brahms symphony cycles but only three of Dvorák’s 7-9 (and one of those is an arrangement for piano four hands) obliquely reinforces the notion that Brahms (the two were contemporaries and friends) was the greater composer when in fact the opposite is true. And it’s high-time for the musical world to admit this truth so Dvorák’s music can be more often played and recorded, thereby allowing the public to become more familiar with it.holy based
>>124810944nah, dvorak is second rate and brahms is obviously superior.
>>124810952they knew you'd say that>Luckily we live in a time when it’s not a major sonic sacrifice to choose 20-plus-years-old recordings over current ones. But this brings us back to the opening conundrum: do we have to keep playing the same old records? That’s the whole point of labels making new versions with new artists (or redos by old artists). Dvorák’s great symphonies deserve better than to be treated like second-rate music by the majors. So while Dudamel’s effort may not be perfect, it’s fine enough to rate a listen. And neophytes encountering this music on streaming services will be delighted with their discovery.
>>124810961>do we have to keep playing the same old records?we do when the new versions suck such colossal ass. also, realistically speaking, records have sounded consistently great for about 60-70 years at this point; if anything we're in a slump regarding production quality. >Dvorák’s great symphonies deserve better than to be treated like second-rate music by the majors. but it is second rate music, that's the problem. why pretend it's anything other than?
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>>124810984You really don't think you'll get tired of the same ol' recordings for the rest of your life?
