>>4323036
>>it's not gay to post in the /fgt/, unless you flip untested p&s cameras on a squarespace ecom site
Well that certainly leaves me out.

Reposting my question from last thread.
>>4322610
Why is it always one hour? I guess I've done semi-stand before, then, only with bog standard Fomapan reels. Like normal development, shouldn't the timing vary by emulsion? I'm working with sheets of x-ray film, not rolls. Hence the experimentation. Trying to determine the ideal development regime, since I've only got about 2000 shots' worth.

>>4323041
Not with high dilution because the developing action runs out. If you push or pull film you can increase or decrease the concentration to give it a little boost or decrease in development.

1+100 for 1 hour. 60 sec agitation at the beginning and like 10 inversions at 30 mins is a good starting point.

>>4323041
One hour because humans like round numbers and it’s easier just to test around such intervals. I’m sure if you wanted to systematically check at every other time you could, but I don’t believe the 1 hour comes from calculated or necessarily scientific basis, more just “conventional/anecdotal” experience. You could also ask why 1:100 and not 1:99 or 1:87 and why not 25 degrees instead of 22 and so on.

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>>4323036
Well lads buying “untested/for parts” junk finally bit me in the ass today, Yashica samurai arrived and I can’t revive it sadly. On the bright side I was at the thrift looking for some fat boy tee shirts and found picrel for a fiver which was cheap enough for “let’s just try it out”. Kent400 started in it, we’ll see what comes out.

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>>4323048
>Yashica samurai arrived and I can’t revive it sadl
Hammer!

>>4323046
>>4323044
Really helpful. Thank you fellas.

>>4320232
Did you brush out a whole fucking person here?

>>4323048
No! I remember posting one of those a while ago. Funny little camera. I'm sad you couldn't get it working.

>>4323068
Yeah I tore it down to the circuits and replaced the internal battery and all, but it wouldn’t go. Seems a common failure for these models, like many 80s/90s electronics some component just fries out and it’s toast. At least it’s still a goofy lookin thing cool to have on my bookcase. I was looking forward to half frame, since I never used that format. Might still look for another half frame.

>>4323036
800T and kentmere 400 came in the mail
gonna be fun

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>>4323036
>best photo you've taken with the worst gear
Realised I'd actually made it hard for myself because I don't really use shitty gear often/at all these days. This is from an Oly Infinity Mini, which was incredibly cheap at $3, but it's actually a *good* camera by any sensible assessment.

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>>4323036
This guy on my first roll through a box brownie, I'm happy with it but fuck do not enjoy using that thing

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I need a intervalometer for my Pentax 645 and a quick google search brought up nothing. Anyone know of something I can use?

Don't ask why.

>>4323135
I think you just need to buy a cable switch F, and cut the connector off it to solder onto a normal 2.5mm jack intervalometer that would suit a modern camera. It's only 3 wires on any of them, so it would work exactly the same.

>>4323077
why do people post shit like this? no one fucking cares u spent $15. post the scans of photos taken with them or fuck off

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>>4323048
you must have some serious luck, every single fucking thing i've ever bought marked as "for parts" has always been like 70% of cost of something working and completely and utterly fucked. I don't think I've bought a single camera that hasn't arrived locked up, filled with vomit/rust, missing parts, stripped out screws, optics that look like they came out of a cement mixer, broken unobtanium plastics, the list goes fucking on and on.
>>4323135
>dis nigga about to make the worlds most expensive gif

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>>4323130
It is fun to try and get the best out of them.
Set up on a tripod. open the shutter with a sheet over the camera, uncover, fire flashes, recover, close shutter.
They are focused at around 10ft though, so you kind of have to deal with that, or find a way to stick a diopter on the front.

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>>4323139
I had a similar idea but in my case I wanted a wireless release for my pz-10. You convinced me to finish it, it works!
I put the 2.5mm socket in parallel with the red and black wires, so it can still be used as a normal wired release.

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>>4323153
boxcams are fun if you follow their intended positive image acquisition route - contact printing. the cyanotype method is great for this because you don't need any darkroom equipment to get your positives. those meniscus/achromat/periskop optics were never intended to be enlarged and pixelpeeped and there's sufficient IQ there for tiny contact prints.

6x4.5 zeiss ikon box tengor soviet DDR army base undergound hangar thing bulb exposure

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>>4323036
>so what's the best photo you've taken with the worst gear?

Here's a holgas snap from a few winters ago. I should use that pos more.

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>>4323171
Absolutely based. I look forward to whatever perverted self portraits you've got planned polluting Ai models for years to come.

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Hi anons, bought this few days ago for $25 i think its c41 chemistry but im not sure, anyone knows how to mix it / develop photos with this?

>>4323217
looks like Print Xpress 4

>>4323149
It’s luck for sure but I think there’s things to look for, like if the listing has enough photos and if the item looks beat up or nice. Also I’ve looked for things sold “for parts” because they didn’t have the right battery, or that sort of thing, rather than because it’s actually broken. I bought a Minox 35gl advertised as “for parts/untested” but complete in box, appears like new they just didn’t have a battery. Works like a charm. If you know common failures for certain cameras that helps too, Bought an eos 5 for parts for like 20 bucks listed as “doesn’t turn on”. 90s canon slr commonly failed at the mode dial, so just throw a piece of tape over the dial and the lock switch, and voila, works fine. Just things like that. But it’s a crapshoot with more modern gadgets that have more electronics.

>>4323217
Probably ra4 and one of the weird automated systems.

>>4323141
>why do people make casual conversation on 4chan
sorry bro I forgot 4channel is for serious business only

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>>4323141
>Complains about someone talking on topic
>Calls them out for not posting photos
>Doesn't even post a photo
ngmi

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I recently got my first roll of film back from the lab, it's a lot more fun that expected.
This is Ilford XP2 in a Minolta XG-1 with the 50 mm f/2

Feedback is appreciated

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>>4323285

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>>4323286
this one would benefit from color film probably. the little devil is bright red, might retake this one

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>>4323287
in conclusion. with film having a definite cost per shot you're really forced to choose your shots and take your time. quite happy with the number of keepers in only 36 shots

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>>4323286
pretty good pic anon
xp2 is.... underrated?
maybe
c41 is more effort for b&w than id like

>>4323289
> with film having a definite cost per shot you're really forced to choose your shots and take your time
Meanwhile my eos 1hs in continuous bracket go brrrrrrr
lol nah not really, but I did it once just to try and you really notice how fast even like 5fps rate is when each shot is costing you. To think film used to be cheap and plentiful enough that it was a thing you could do. Man.

>>4323289
I feel the same way since starting film. I used to take 250 shots in an outting on digital without even realizing it. Then as I moved over to film I slowed down and took my time, my keeper rate went way up and now as I've spent more time with it 36 shots is starting to feel excessive and I'm buying 24 shot rolls just so the film doesn't sit in my camera for several weeks. If they made 12 shot rolls I would buy those. Something between 12-18 would be ideal imo

>>4323289
>with film having a definite cost per shot you're really forced to choose your shots and take your time.
you are. some people also say "shooting raw with an a7ii means i have to pick my shots to cut down on editing time" - and i think that's actually more valid. it's very easy to spend $100 a day and does not affect some people at all. however, several hours at a computer culling bursts and touching up snoy colors... no amount of income can justify that

in practicality this is what happens
>You take a bunch of boring photos of storefronts and flowers in the mall while waiting for your mom to find her way out of nordstrom rack
>eos-1v go brrrrr chad gets cool action snaps
>digifag goes to the food court and orders a burger because his camera is only for birds and sunsets
>highly practiced leica slinging speed demon gets 179 creepshots of fat people and 1 good photo
in other words,
photography has always been chock full of retards

>>4323311
thanks man. i had no idea what i was buying at the time, just impulsively bought a roll of film to finally get grandpas camera going, may he rest in peace

and at the lab I went to C41 is actually cheaper than B&W, so my cheap ass might get into home developing soon shooting rolls of fomapan 100

>>4323289
>>4323286
You really call these snapshits keepers? This is “film made me the man i am today” grade work? Holy kek

>>4323139
I think it's cable switch A for the 645 (non-n). The problem is I don't know how to solder or have the equipment and the cable switch A's are kind of expensive to hack apart. But maybe if I get desperate enough I will.

>>4323149
>>dis nigga about to make the worlds most expensive gif
I wasn't but now I'm considering it. What the lowest acceptable framerate?

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>>4323046
Back again. Does this look to you like something that would have benefitted from semi-stand? Her hair was very dark. Some of those skin highlights, when inspecting the negative itself, are damn near blown out. So I know I couldn't have gone much farther on the highlights, maybe max .5 more stops of dev.

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>>4323347
Here's another. No detail on the hair, at all. I checked the lights I use. They are Chinese LEDs that I cannot say are properly cooled. It's a bit of a guess as to whether they have degraded due to overheating. Absolutely possible. That said, there was another shot in this set, missing a light, that was properly exposed. I might need to do some more testing.

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>>4323347
How are you metering? You should try spot metering the darkest portion that you want to retain detail in and then set your exposure for 2 stops under that.

Stand development reduces contrast and "protects" highlights, so you do not need to worry about blowing out your highlights unless your scene is extremely contrasty.

Highlights use up more developer than shadows, so the developer that's sitting around your highlights will get used up before the negative gets too dense.

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>>4323340
> cable switch A's are kind of expensive to hack apart
Picrel 10 smackers. If it’s an electronic release, often times those work just by bridging 5v and G, but hard to know without looking at the wiring diagram. I have a gx680 with some retarded 8pin din cable release and if you bridge 7 and 8 it fires. Think something along those lines. It’s harder if the electrical system needs you to bring a voltage “high” to fire or something else.

>>4323347
>>4323353
Impossible to say if this is the negative of the development cycle. Stand dev is know to bring the highs down and the lows up so it might have recovered something, but the million dollar question is was there anything to recover in the first place? It sounds like a crutch but I’d say test your lighting with digital first, to be sure you can rule that out as a variable. In the past, this is what instant backs and Polaroid/fp100c were used for, and not as a final image the way many people think these days.

>>4323368
*negative OR the development
Though I suppose it would make more sense if I had said your exposure or your development. Point being as you yourself mention there’s too many confounding variables (the lights, etc) to nail down the issue

>>4323358
Spot meter is something I can't do. It's been on the docket as something I need to build one of for a while. There's no other way of even guessing exposure, because I can't see the wavelength I'm shooting; it's below the visible.
>>4323368
Hard to test except for neg tests. I guess I could slap a 120 back on the view camera and shoot some test reels. It's too bad I sold mine 8 years ago. I'll have to save up for another.

>>4323373
Oh you're shooting that xray film. Have you been able to find any info on it like the name of the film or anything? What kind of lights are you using??

In my estimation I would try dropping the ISO by roughly 2 or 3 stops, and trying the standard 1+100 semi stand routine.

>>4323374
There's a datasheet. It's Fujifilm UM-MA. I don't know what to make of the sheet, though.

>>4323374
https://whitemountainimaging.com/wp-content/uploads/documents/fuji_mam_pro_rec.pdf

https://whitemountainimaging.com/wp-content/uploads/documents/um_mam_flm_dta_sht.pdf

>>4323380
Well... if you have a 600nm light source(orange) you can tray develop it, which may be very helpful for testing.

Green sensitive, and possibly 100 iso, but I'm not sure if that means the same thing for this film.

If you're shooting 4x5 you also make a test sheet by lifting the slide partially, expose, lift more, expose, etc.

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unexpectedly diving head-first into this whole film thing (got a camera for free) (actually got three but main interest is 120)

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>>4323392
Where tf do you faggots just get gear worth hundreds of dollars if not more for free? What the fuck. If there is a god, he is not just, because such fortunes don’t befall me.

it is seemingly still hard to find detailed reviews with sample shots of the "new" (since 2021?) fuji 200.
considering its now one of the cheaper color negative films available in the US, certainly a lot of /fgt/ has experience with it.
on amazon it's cheaper than both colorplus and poorimage.

>>4323394
Just look at reviews for Kodak gold, it’s literally just whitelabelled

>>4323398
its cheaper than kodak gold, though
why would fuji sell it cheaper than kodak does?

>>4323393
heres the thing: most camera shit is literally worthless and prices on online marketplaces are being inflated by a few small areas spread across the glboe

>>4323400
if it wasn't people would buy gold instead

>>4323385
I have a junior red bulb that I use when cutting film. Unfortunately I lack the facilities and the equipment to do tray development. Aged out of paying to use the local uni darkroom.
Tonight, I made test shots with a friend. I used my UV-A meter as an improvised incident light meter, took measurements facing each lamp, recorded distance to the softboxes from the model's face. I took two pairs of images per lens, using the long and short, which are roughly a stop apart in UV transmission. I'll try the normal dev cycle of 20m 1:100 90s initial agitation and 5 inversions at the beginning of each minute, and semi-stand 1:100. We'll see what I get.

>>4323414
Why are you using uva when a normal flash should work? The color sensitivity is basically full spectrum except for orange.

>>4323422
I'm also shooting in UV-A. I'm testing the film against the response to the light I use for shooting. If you check the datasheet linked above, it is more responsive to UV than even green.

>>4323392
that motor drive is worth a bit. shit prism though from a much older gen SQ-A

>>4323393
right?
>be me
>be australian
>every fucker, be it store or individual price matches the most expensive [MINT++++] ebay price they can find
>everything is absolutely fucked because australians are pre-barbaric animals
>$1,200 FIRM, I KNOW WHAT I GOT mentality
>offer them actual value ($50) and they get offended
>some shit for brains will always pay the asking price, the seller just has to wait a little longer
it's not fucking fair, meanwhile rich people give away this shit to their rich friends so they can not use it and then list it on ebay for some absurd amount or leave it on public transport for some homeless cunt to then sell it for $15 at a cashconverters which in turn sell it for $2,000 to another boomer

>>4323433
>Australia
It's a lot like Canada. You get fucked by the prior size of the market back when this shit was new. I'm in one of Canada's largest and oldest cities, and even ten years ago I could hardly find good deals on local classifieds. There simply weren't enough people here back in the 60's through 90's. We're only getting precipitous growth now. Meanwhile, I knew a guy in Texas who could drive out to one of dozens of industrial or farm towns 100-200km out and pick up insane stashes of LF or MF gear for dirt cheap, which of course he flipped like a rat.

>>4323283
Not him but there are at least 10 posts every /fgt/ with some lamewad writing "Just got some cinestill 800T, this should be fun..." or similar. It's narci af and what can you even reply to it?

>>4323434
>I'm in one of Canada's largest and oldest cities
>We're only getting precipitous growth now
Lol'd at your dependence. Wait until you find out just how bad it's gonna get.

>>4323440
You don't have to tell me. The streets have been filling with hostile retards and do-nothings, all the low-wage labour is done by temporary foreign workers with an easy path to permanent residency, and rents are absolutely batshit.

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recommend a small incident 3 color meter which also measures the light levels? i am sure that these exist. i don't know why the color metering isn't as common as the light level metering, or why they wouldn't both be included in one unit

>>4323365
Is that a reputable seller? I've never heard of them.

>>4323392
It's a curse. I look at 35mm now the way I used to look at mft. It's fun if you need something lightweight and discrete. But if you're serious about image quality 120 is the bare minimum

>>4323433
Same. I always see people being like 'oh yeah I just checked facebook marketplace and got this $1000 camera for $20. Meanwhile when I check fb marketplace it's literally boomers trying to sell a rebel t3i for $700

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i don't want to use some bluetooth piece of shit that i have to connect to an app on my phone. i want to keep my camera in my primary hand, not have to double fist a phone and a light meter like a complete fuck

>>4323448
just buy one that hasn't been tested and probably needs lubrication and light seals and might not work at all

>>4323445
You need a light meter designed for motion picture. Some of the more expensive sekonic meters have the feature. Idk about any cheaper options.

I wonder if you could carry a color card and take spot meter readings off that, or use a gel over a flat incident fitting...

>>4323450
I used to think light meters were rare or hard to come by in film camera's but they aren't most consumer ones from the ~1980s onward seem to have them. It's once you start getting into the antique stuff and most of the medium format cameras that you need a light meter.

>>4323452
>I wonder if you could carry a color card and take spot meter readings off that,
my current solution is something like this. im just taking a blurry picture of a gray card. the results are somehow not great but its possible im doing it wrong or i need to use a full color card rather than a gray card. i dunno. i like the idea of using an incident meter

>>4323450
You just take your incident reading, or spot off your skin in full sun and then in shadows. All you have to do is remember how many stops the difference is. No need to check before every shot unless your scene lighting drastically changes.

>>4323455
>spot off your skin
my skin isn't gray though

>>4323456
Doesn't matter. White to tan skin should be placed 1 stop lighter than midtone gray, or just use an incident meter. Same idea applies to measure in full sun and shadow.

>>4323454
Gossen colormaster 3f. There's a reallg cheap one on ebay that's missing the battery cover.

>>4323457
>Doesn't matter. White to tan skin should be placed 1 stop lighter than midtone gray, or just use an incident meter. Same idea applies to measure in full sun and shadow.
I WANT TO MEASURE COLOR

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>>4323036
>what's the best photo you've taken with the worst gear?
posted here already. sprocket rocket

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>>4323458
Oh I thought you were a different guy. Why tho? Get that gossen on ebay, or a cheap spectrometer and learn how to convert the reading into EV.

>>4323461
>Oh I thought you were a different guy. Why tho? Get that gossen on ebay, or a cheap spectrometer and learn how to convert the reading into EV.
i want one thing i can pull out of my pocket and press a button on to get everything i need to meter and notate the shot. maybe i am a complete cock but it seems funny to me that the color meters don't give a levels reading because they are already measuring levels of light for another purpose but i don't know anything im fat

>>4323457
lol you’ve never used an incident meter for portraits.

>>4323462
I get that's what you want, but what purpose does that serve? Are you using the information to correctly color balance your images in post or something?

I don't really know anything about color light meters either... :(

>>4323465
>Are you using the information to correctly color balance your images in post or something?
yea. im struggling to adjust white balance and get consistent results that look good across all my images, because i suck at color or something.

>>4323464
Of course I have, dummy. Natural light and strobes.
My advice was for general shooting. I'm not going to list off metering practices for every type of photography...

>>4323468
:( color calibrate scanner and monitor. Wouldn't you want to use a white card and not a gray card?

>>4323471
>:( color calibrate scanner and monitor
easy enough if you have some neutral color in the image. it is not so easy when this is not the case.

>>4323471
>Wouldn't you want to use a white card and not a gray card?
im not sure. i seem to get the same results using both

>>4323286
nice
>>4323311
i'm maining xp2 for street film since i don't self-develop. the turnaround time for regular bw at my shop is twice as long as for c41

>>4323471
this sums up exactly why amateur photos and edits look so underwhelming. i don't think many people will have the eye training without years of experience and attention. many instagram street photographers with consistent looking portfolios will leave this sort of thing up to the lab

>>4323451
thats the problem, in australia a used camera has already been through the hands of like 50 people in its 40 year life span. half of those are sub 70IQ diyers that try to fix shit with butter knives and hammers, so you're not just lubing shit, you're outright rebuilding highly complex mechanical assemblies from scratch because its been absolutely mangled beyond comprehension.

>>4323450
pro tip: if you're shooting outdoors or any light that isn't varying constantly you only need to meter once. just find the darkest thing around, take a reading and shift that two stops down, now you don't have to touch the light meter or camera settings again, just blast away.

>>4323477
ive been buying 50s-70s era camera gear for a long time. your choices are mostly these:

1. buy something untested, and then give it to your guy to clean and fix. its probably fine. you get the best value this way.

2. buy something tested and working, and pay a premium for it. you can yell at the seller if something isn't right. you get a working camera this way in the shortest number of steps

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>>4323473
>>4323472
Maybe post a picture you're having trouble with and you could get some advice. There's a little card thingy you scan and it checks if your scanner is calibrated properly, and then there's also this thing called a spider or something. You place it on your monitor and it reads the color balance and brightness then tells you how to adjust it so the color is correct.

>>4323475
Im a little worried that correctly color grading ra4 prints is going to be exceedingly challenging considering thst I've only really done serious work in b&w. It will be a fun challenge at least...

>>4323480
>Maybe post a picture you're having trouble with and you could get some advice. There's a little card thingy you scan and it checks if your scanner is calibrated properly, and then there's also this thing called a spider or something. You place it on your monitor and it reads the color balance and brightness then tells you how to adjust it so the color is correct.
i know all of this. i want a pocketable color meter/light meter combination.

>>4323479
>1. my guy is me because I will actually fix the cunt properly with correct materials and procedures.
>2. this is what I've been doing, I bought a mamiya 645 pro a few months ago and the DoF arm blew out on the first roll, it was a shit fight but eventually got them to warranty it, I had to pay out of pocket for setup costs at a local DMLS 3d printing company to get a new arm made of titanium and then sell those to the camera store at cost, so I lost about a month of shooting and a dozen hours of time fucking about emailing 3 different companies and doing CAD shit I have no business with. In the end the camera store can now fix 645s for basically nothing (no longer need a donor camera) and all I ended up with is what I paid for in the first place.

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I have an Olympus 35 SP, I shot a roll of t-max 400 and everything seems fine, then I shoot a roll of hp5+ and it looks like the film advance didn’t work? Is it possible I somehow didn’t load the film correctly?

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>>4323511
1. your rewind mechanism is broken (try holding the rewind spool with your finger while rewinding to see if it works well or not)
2. You accidentally pressed the film release button
3. the film release button is broken
4. the film does not adhere tightly to the rewind reel (check the pressure pate on the back door)

>>4323513
When you say rewind mechanism, you mean the winding sprocket/winding arm right? Not the “rewinding” as in when you’re finished with the roll

>>4323432
the motor drive I bought, my friend who gave the camera to me lost the original battery holder
much easier using AAs anyways
and that's just the non-AE prism, it's not from an older gen, they were both option parts (standard was top-down viewfinder)
>>4323447
it's really the only reason I'm getting into film
if I want to shoot 35mm I have a perfectly good FF DSLR

>>4323515
yeah, that's correct. sorry for misunderstanding.

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Guess the film stock.
Hard mode: it's not Foma.

>>4323519
Bergger

>100% automatique 6x4.5 camera no changeable backs
>100% manual 6x6 with changeable backs
>100% manual 6x7 no changeable backs

I am going on vacation and can only take one, part of me wants the 6x45 so I can shoot quicker shots without worrying about exposure and shit, the other part of me wants 6x7 for the BIIG negatives and the rational part of me says the 6x6 that I can swap easily from color to B&W makes the most sense. Planning mostly on architecture and family as the photo themes. What would you take on a short vacation with family if you only had room for one.

>>4323526
Take the smallest one. 1 camera + 1 lens.
If photography is not the main purpose of your journey than cut not necessary stuff.

>>4323526
Worrying about iq with sub-4x5 film is pointless. At its best its equaled by digital. You arent winning awards.

Changeable backs on the other hand actually brings something to the table besides “in theory if i shot this test chart pulled one stop and we agreed that a detail is still there if its a vague cloud of grains- bill, get the microscope!”

>>4323526
>>4323542
>take 6x6 photos using Portra
>my M43 photos looks way better

OWARI DA

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Bros I finally fixed my RB, it took me three rotating backs to sort it but now I can shoot landscape again. I missed this thing for so long and I'm already hoarding Ektar, Portra and Velveeta for my Moab trip later this year.

>>4323544
I see you have some quality snacks for the road too. Don't dismiss the other brands, some are pretty tasty. I'm partial to Cascade myself.

>>4323446
No idea, was first result on Google lol. Might be worth taking a chance for that cheap.

>>4323542
>>4323543
have you fags ever thought maybe he just wants to go and shoot film and its not a gearfag quest for the "best" quality?

>>4323559
>The other part of me wants 6x7 for the BIIG negatives
>>4323526
6x6 if you want to shoot artsy B&W and color family snaps in succession, 645 if you don't want to carry much or fuck with a light meter, sell the 6x7 that piece of shit is totally useless

>>4323565
>6x7 is shit and useless

pentax 6x7 is one of the best, if not the best, medium format

>>4323569

RB owner here and this is correct, I wished they weren't so expensive or I'd have one, but I do love my RB. both fantastic pieces of kit for people who lift.

>>4323565

Fuji made a bunch of 645 RFs with meters, I have a GS645S Wide 60 and it's great for walkaround portraits. Weighs nothing.

>>4323569
for camera collectors, not photography, lol!

>>4323577
the 67 is easier to use than 90% of other MF cameras In my experience

>>4323526
I would take one of my 35MM cameras desu, but I use MF for work.

>>4323577
What is your endgame with these posts? Do you just need attention today?

>>4323589

This, it's basically just a grown up Spotmatic

>RB67

Awkward to carry, left grip is awkward. Really a studio camera that can be carried.

>Fuji GX680

studio camera only

>Various Fuji 6x7 RFs

at that point get the 6x9, none of them have interchangeable glass. good cameras though. the very earliest one had interchangeable lenses though, the BL690.

>Mamiya 7

costs as much as a late-model Toyota Camry, also in that 10% of easy to use cameras. The real Texas Leica

>Communist 6x6 SLRs (Kiev, Pentacon etc.)

actually not horrible but hard to find a good sorted copy, best to get the ARAX 6x6 SLR based on the Kiev MF SLR

>Mamiya 645s

honestly anything 645 is a compromise unless you are shooting exclusively portraits, notable exceptions Fuji GS645

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>>4323619
Obvious choices here, for me anyways.

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>>4323624

Jealous, got to play with a 7 recently, I get why they are so expensive. The viewfinder feels like I'm going to fall into it.

645AF feels good too in the hands, if I had fuck you money I'd be shooting one

>>4323627
My AF was three figures way back when. Crazy that they’re now RZ prices. If I’m being honest the 7 is just a toy since going pro. It’s tough to imagine a specific use case in 2024 beyond just being a really cool camera.

>>4323630

And my RB was a 4 figure camera and now you can find one for 500 bucks lmao. That's good though, cheap glass. Even the RZ has come down I remember when those were like 3k

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>>4323619
>>Fuji GX680

>studio camera only
Say that to my face, fucker, not online, see what happens. Have this hastily phone snapped gx680 negative as proof that they go outside.
Though I’ll give you strictly tripod use maybe kek.

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>>4323639

At this point just shoot 4x5, you have to go through all the same shit except you can use roll film. You can put a 6x9 Graflok back on a 4x5 and have a shit ton of movement and be able to shoot 6x9

You gotta be a fully paid up member of Gold's Gym to carry that thing around and that's coming from someone who carries a full RB system in the field in a 40lb metal case, you got some fuckin stones dude

>>4323639
Yes, I used the 6x6 mask on my 6x8, in my defence I have 6 lenses and was doing a test roll to see what each one looks like for a wide shot and a close up. 6x6 is just the right amount of frames. Of course my dumbass left the mirror up on like 3 lens changes rendering black frames, and like half the test moot, but hey.

>>4323644
I carried the camera and six lenses lol. Plus extra backs and tripod and all that. I have one of those little folding grocery wagons I just stuffed it all into. And I do have a 4x5 but it’s a monorail lol, bulkier than the 680. It’s a such a superfluous Chad of a camera, I love the stupid thing.

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Chatgpt is actually based?

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>>4323666
>a calculator did a calculation
It’s not so much that ChatGPT is based as it is that you might be retarded, anon.

>>4323672
Okay, boomer. I'll get my answer in 5 seconds and spend the extra time actually doing photography.

>>4323675
I have no issue with ChatGPT it did exactly what it was supposed to. It’s when morons like you act like it’s doing magic or some shit that it’s funny.

>>4323678
Nice boomer cope. Is hand solved equations part of your artisanal approach to photography?

>Why does everyone shit on 6x4.5?

Also why are there no automatic 6x6 and larger MF cameras?

>>4323681
>part of your artisanal approach to photography?
you are on the film thread, stupid broccoli head.

>>4323666
I would double check it's math. ChatGPT is notoriously bad at math. Because it's a language model, not a calculator. It's finding a series of words that have a high probability of going together. It is not doing math calculations and is often wrong

>>4323690
I asked it one too difficult and it did tell me the wrong answer/couldn't solve it, but it also said the answer was most likely improbable.

Bellows calculations are fairly simple, but they're kind of annoying when you're trying out a bunch of different things to see what possible set ups may look like.

>>4323687
Millenial, beotch. Arguably worse than zoomers hah.

>>4323521
Wrong

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69 is my favorite number!

>>4323340
nta but ive heard that 16fps is whats necessary for the illusion of movement. you could probably go a couple frames under though since its just muh art project slop

>>4323714
Unfathomably based and sixtyniner pilled.

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I bought a Super 8 camera and filmed a roll for the first time on holiday with my family. Here's part of the results. Does anyone know why only part of it is exposed properly?

I can't understand why parts are too bright/too dark despite it all being shot in same weather conditions.

>>4323725
>not 16mm
LMAOing @ ur life

how can I economically recover the silver in all the waste solutions after home film developing?

>>4323725
Don’t know about your question, I’d say check your camera opens aperture and sets shutter consistently whenever you start recording. But I just wanted to say the first person gun shooting in 8mm = kino af. Looked like you were mag dumping a child essentially lol

>>4323732
Seems like there’s guides on YouTube. I don’t know this channel and didn’t watch the video, it’s just the first one that popped up. YMMV https://youtu.be/N8mk8EYpVWA?si=kO6R2fqMwzvJ65xs

>>4323322
Sounds like you need a 645.

>>4323766
thanks, I read more about doing this, seems impossible to make money from silver recovery unless done on a massive commercial/industrial scale

>>4323683
Because they’ve never done photography in any serious capacity and want to qualify the purchase of some archaic 6x9 folder or rangefinder.

Also think about what 67 is used for. It’s a slow format for studios and some landscape (maybe). What would autofocus help with?

>>4323785
>>4323773
>>4323683
Cope format for wedding snapshitters

>>4323723

Dangerously based and Boards of Canada-pilled

>>4323526
>the other part of me wants 6x7 for the BIIG negatives
>6x7 has BIIG negs
>6x6 doesn't
This is literally brain damage.

>>4323819
4x5 kinda big
8x10 big
4x10 long
11x14 really large
16x20 ultra large
20x24 extra ultra large

All medium format is only medium in size including 6x17. Sorry.

>>4323823
You typed all that out to say medium format is medium format. Dumb. But yes, 6x7 and 6x6 might as well be the same thing. Which was the point...

>>4323810
Lol you couldn’t get paid work if you tried.

>>4323829
You take the world wide web too seriously, bud.

>>4323833
We got a live one boys

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fomapan 200 at 160, in rodinal 50+1 8 min
this is underdeveloped right? not sure if I should expose more or develop more

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>>4323899
maybe I'm not metering well when there's shadows

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>>4323901

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>>4323899
>not sure if I should expose more or develop more
I'd say both by a little, shoot at 100, develop for 8:30 looking at the examples. If it then comes out to dense in highlights then keep the same exposure, but dial dev time back a bit. But both this and >>4323901 look strangely irregular, maybe problems with the spiral? How did you agitate? Standard 20°C temperature?
Try 1+100 stand dev for 1 hour next time, with 2-3 inversions after 30 minutes, this might give you a better idea.

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>>4323433
it's very much like that here aye, although i have gotten lucky once with a $20 nikon fg with the 50mm 1.8 e series lens on fb marketplace years ago

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>>4323923
I did illford agitation, 20C.
>maybe problems with the spiral?
The first 3-4 frames on the inner side of the spiral had some streaks so maybe. it would also be the shutter, it caps at 1/1000

I want to get into film but I need to scan it somehow. I have ~90% of required components to make a DSLR scanning rig and I'll prolly build it and it will scan, but what do I do with dust? Will I fuck up the negatives if I put the part with flocking from film container onto the film holder and pull every frame through before scanning?

>>4323433
>>4323929
Cry me a river you fucking sooks.
I've got a house full of photo gear I paid peanuts for; if you can't get off your ass and trawl gumtree/fb, or opshops for trash then you don't deserve to have it. If you're too ignorant to know if it will work, or not prepared to blow a pineapple on something that may or may not work, you're a fucking mewling pleb and deserved to get rinsed by experienced sellers.
>i only want to buy film tested contaxes/fm3a's below market price with free returns
Go fuck your hat.

>>4323932
Possibly. My advice? You should get into film if you want make prints in a darkroom.

Why are 35mm cine cameras so hard to find? They were made for almost a century so you would think there would be tons of them around but no.

Do any of you Anons invert your negatives with darktable?
I'll be scanning them with a digital camera in raw if that makes any difference.
I want to escape the Adobe trap so I'm wondering if it's a viable alternative to Negative Lab Pro + Lightroom.

>>4323936
Very little were in private hands and they didnt exactly sell them off in droves when digital came around.

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Before my trip through the Canadian Rockies I got to try out the Pentax 6x7 and I fell in love. I figured I'd post a photo since I saw some of you were discussing it earlier in the thread.

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>>4323982
eww

>>4323982
>medium format camera
>sprocket holes

What kinda hipster shit is this?

>>4323987
65mm Imax film.

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>>4323987
That's Vision3

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>>4323899
you should never use Fomapan

>>4323990
These colors look too warm. Is that velvia? Ektachrome is much better.

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>>4323997
It's 160VC like the name of the file. I guess thinking it's slide is a compliment.

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>>4323990
>>4323982
Anon are you a fan of chocolates or something, your subjects tell a story here. Are you a cocoa man?

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>>4324040

They happen to be film photographers just like me, and can't help who's in the park that day.

It's funny, you're like the opposite of the guy that thought he was onto something cause I posted two Asians another time.

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>>4324047
100% the same flyover state anon.

>>4324047
> and can't help who's in the park that day.
Well certainly not but this is a dumb point, because you can certainly help who you click your shutter at.

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>>4324049
Who knows, dude sees two images out of a set of four and jumps on it like it's some sort of pattern. Calling out a bias he supposedly sees all the while actually telling us his.

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>>4324056
Nah, read what I said again. The whole point was to take photos of photographers and artists and I think I pretty much show that I did 'point my shutter at' a diverse group. I also can't help that some dumbfuck chose two pics and decided to make a pattern out of them buy go off.

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>>4324059
> I did 'point my shutter at' a diverse group.
Pretty cringe anon.

>>4324061
You’re the triggered one

>>4324047
>>4323982
>>4324007
nice
Vision3 looks so fucking good in medium format

>>4323972
yeah I use darktable
it's got a negative inversion module "negadoctor" Bruce Williams has a tutorial
Boris Hajdukovic has some great bids on darktable

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8x10 wetplate macro soon. Waiting on additional silver nitrate! I think these are going to be stunning once I dial everything in.

The large GG is amazing to behold!

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>>4323933
you're a bit angry there champ

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Very important photos to me (not pic rel one) but all roll is scratched too hard. it taken 15 mins to make something good in lightroom but for printing pics cannot be used at all

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>>4324273
Also made kind a awesome macro construction with 1cm focusing distance. Looks dreamy like a fairytale illustration to me

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>>4324274
but this is really hard to focus even with f8

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>>4323036
Taken in 1965, not sure of the camera or film stock. My grandparents.

>>4323519
Tasma

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>>4323519
Looks like Retro 80s to me.
>>4324233
it's funny because I actually look like that. I'm not actually any more angry than normal, it's just if you're going to vent a stream of consciousness style of abuse at a stupid person anywhere, 4channel is the place for it

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>>4323972
I tried it once, it's alright
but desu the best conversion I could ever get is just curves
I don't know how purpose-built conversion tools manage to do worse than that

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#minoltagang

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>>4323997
Imagine thinking this is slide lmfao

>>4324324
POSTMAN says I’m getting mine in the mail today, should be a hoot. No lense for it yet though, bought the cl only deep discount cause the guy said the meter seemed like it was going, but he recently had it CLAd by that famous Leica lady. Debating a 40 or a cheaper 35mm

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>>4323519
>>4323521
>>4324288
>>4324290
Three guesses and not even close, but thanks for playing! It's Portra 160 (in 120). >>4323714 and pic related.

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>>4324338
Hellya nice. I grabbed mine for $250 with a broken meter. It's my backup camera, super fun lil thing. I'm a big sucker for the 40mm focal length and the 40/2 has quickly become my favourite lens...to the point that I'm selling off the rest of my ltm and m lenses. That said you could definitely use a 35 no problem on the CL if you don't wear glasses.

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>>4323036
I decided to try to shoot a roll of Xp2. I am pretty satisfied with the results, but still I do not know why I would shoot it instead of normal black and white film that I would develop myself.
Overall I mostly prefer black and white images, so I am not even a huge fan of shooting color film.

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>>4324409
>I do not know why I would shoot it instead of normal black and white film that I would develop myself.

It was designed when every drugstore did c41 in 30minutes for $2. It doesn't really have a good logic behind it anymore. It also sucks ass to darkroom print

https://boards.4chan.org/s/thread/21990342/panties/22000925
https://boards.4chan.org/s/thread/21990342/panties/22000924
https://boards.4chan.org/s/thread/21990342/panties/22000923
https://boards.4chan.org/s/thread/21990342/panties/22000922

Pics from a photoshoot with a cuck. After I fucked his wife he was rushing me to hurry so he could eat my cum off her kek.

>>4324429
Where do you find these people

>>4324415
> It doesn't really have a good logic behind it anymore
I’ve seen more than a few anons here report that c41 development is still cheaper for them, since most labs that can still do c41 can’t do bw and send it out. So there’s a place for it still if one isn’t interested in doing their own dev.

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This was challenging to do by myself. Got pretty close after about 5 tries...

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>>4324500
I feel like all of your plates are underexposed/developed. Or are you going for this vibe?

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>>4324501
Generally I prefer a higher contrast look to my plates, so I sort of am aiming for the vibe, I guess. This plate in specific I was maxed out on flash and aperture, so I had to just be okay with this look.

I know that I'm not underdeveloping because I time my development and keep the dev very consistent. 30-40 seconds is the recommended time and it is what I aim for. If I go over or under that you lose a lot of contrast and the images start to look foggy, drab, and dull. It may also be my flash set up and subject matter producing very contrasty images.

It's kind of weird to show a still image of them because they're so glossy, and the highlights sort of glow when you look at them from different angles.

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>>4324504
The eye picture in specific not the moth onion one..

>>4324501
Oh yeah, and one last thing that I am not sure how prominent of an effect it has, but I'm using semi modern and very high quality LF lenses that produce much higher contrast images compared to stuff like an 1890s petzval or other "of the era" lenses. Some say that modern lenses are too sharp and too contrasty for wetplates. I haven't gotten an old lens yet to compare in person...

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Something interesting from the web about wetplate exposure/development time.

1) 3/50 - normal
2) 6/30 - one stop overexposed and 40% less development
3) 12/20 - two stops overexposed and 60% less development
4) 2/75 - about 2/3 stop underexposed and 50% overdeveloped
5) 1/115 - about 1.5 stops underexposed and 130% overdeveloped

Here are the 5 plates. Center one is normal #1, top left is #2, bottom left is #3, top right #4, bottom right #5

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