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It's hard to deny the massive achievement of Mechazilla's catch the other day!
Space suits are technically spacecraft right
How bigly is Musk's entry into politics going to pay off for SpaceX when Trump wins?
>>16435718Threadly reminder that we haven't been back the ice giants since the voyager probes flew by
>>16435474Turns out when you start to mass produce engines and build the tanks out of stainless steel able to be weld together by your average car mechanic you can build the rocket for dirt cheap lel.
It's gonna have the government take away his Tesla subsidies, Saudis take away twitter, and the Antitrust Act take away SpaceX when Trump loses again.Trump isn't serious about space anyway, a Trump win just means 4 more years of ISS jobs then NASA just ends as his handlers in Congress take over and dismantle it for more military spending and the US occupation of Iran, which is what Trump's owners really wants. You're not going to space with Trump. You're being drafted and paradropped into Tehran.
>>16435742 meant for >>16435732
Now that SpaceX has perfected the super-heavy booster & Starship, whats their next even bigger project? Is it just going to be the enlarged Starship versions or are they going to come out with something that makes Starship & super-heavy look puny?Also what happens to Falcon now that Starship is fully functional? If Starship can do the equivalent of 10 Falcon launches in one go then is there a market for Starship to launch as frequently as Falcon has been doing?
>>16435746Based 2032 poster
>>16435746>If Starship can do the equivalent of 10 Falcon launches in one go then is there a market for Starship to launch as frequently as Falcon has been doing?Who knows what market opportunities will be created when LEO is dirt cheap to access. Starlink already is the first example of it and is projected to be a 100 Billion dollar market in the next few years. Would be cool to see some new forms of manufacturing based around microgravity.
>>16435742This is the worst post on all of /sci/ right now, just a fractally garbage take.
"And... It's gone."Next manned Starliner looks like it's off the schedule. According to the article, the corrupt NASA administration may be trying to throw Boeing a cargo mission as a bailout/bribe to keep the program going.
> Axiom has configured the spacesuit with a dark outer layer created by Esther Marquis, the costume designer for the alternate space history series "For All Mankind." So, our Universes are starting to merge.
>>16435754Trump isn't winning. Musk's best friends have always been on the left. It's Democrats who subsidize his Tesla cars, $8,000 per car in direct cash aid to buyers. It's Democrats who want to spend billions on space missions that require his spacecraft, and it's Democrats that mandated his solar panels/powerwalls on all new homes built in California.Musk's turn to people who think electric cars are gay and that earth is flat is retarded. He's retarded. His business is much bigger than him, and he represents it poorly. This will become clearer in about two months when he finds himself having to justify all of Trump's anti-science, anti-space, anti-NASA rhetoric while justifying new NASA missions. Democrats can cook up a 2nd SpaceX with subsidies in the exact same way Obama gave him billions to make SpaceX, and Republicans don't believe in SpaceX period.He's made some bad decisions. SpaceX can stand on it's own without him regardless.
Their earlier For All Mankindish version.
>>16435765Where did you get this pasta from? Reddit?
>>16435768I own a Tesla and got $8,000 from liberals to buy it. $4,000 from the Federal govt and $4,000 from the state of California. Tesla is the core of California's gas car ban, which will be complete in 2035. 2035 is ten years from now.Only liberal, democratic states are banning gas cars and requiring Musk's product. Musk going for Trump, the guy who wants to ban California from doing this, is enormously stupid.
> The suit accommodates a wide range of crewmembers, including males and females from the first to 99th percentile.So the "No Fat Chicks" rule remains in effect.
>>16435770If you're so much smarter than Musk how come he is so much more successful than you?
>>16435780
>>16435780He isn't more successful than me. My son isn't a tranny.
>>16435780That's not the point being made. SpaceX is bigger than Musk.
>>16435785>SpaceX is bigger than Musk.Midwit take
>>16435785SpaceX is Musk. Only reason it's allowed to do all this shit is because he go the majority of voting shares, kept it privately held and is the CEO. The minute this stops being the case you can so goodbye to SpaceX.
>>16435785>>16435787>SpaceX is Musk.And its not just the voting shares of which he has ~75% or so, but also he's the chief engineer and has a critical role in SpaceX not only in the past, but also present and future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-g5-LJ5KZMfor anyone that has actually read ignition! then this video will tickle your pickle
>>16435790I was wondering when this guy would upload again, I don't normally follow YouTube but I like this guy's aussie meth lab chemistry, cool that his video is somewhat /sfg/ related
>>16435718it's either going to explode again or destroy the tower. screenshot this because i can predict the future
>>16435796If you can predict the future, why can't you say for certain if it will explode again or destroy the tower? There should be no "either" if your prediction is definitive.
Why are normalfags like this? The Martian is one of the stupidest films ever made.
>>16435729They are human-shaped spacecraft.>>16435733We're long overdue for more missions to Uranus and Neptune.
>>16435825One must be genuinely retarded if they believe Gravity and fucking Interstellar was more realistic than the Martian. The most insulting shit the Martian did in terms of realism was having that dust storm in the beginning being so strong.
>>16435825b-but, I like The Martian :(, I'm very much aware that the dust storm thing right at the beginning was completely unrealistic, but I think everyone just has to accept it as a plot device and move on. Just think of it as an alternative universe exactly as our own, except that such storms can occur there. Also, it really does show us an interesting glimpse into a timeline where oldspace woke up just when SpaceX was starting, and put in the real effort to get us to Mars, albeit in a kinda inefficient way, thus rendering Musk's efforts not that relevant in this world. Consider it oldspace's last big accomplishment in fiction, before SpaceX came along in real life and disrupted the industry forever, while at the same time creating a turning point in space fiction. Nowadays if you don't take SpaceX or Musk into consideration for these kind of stories, you might as well consider them unrealistic.
>>16435825They're all shit anon what are you on about?
>>16435845Yes, but the Martian was downright insulting.>>16435832>>16435836The Martian literally opens with a red sunset. Everything about it is wrong.
>>16435836Forgot to mention, although SpaceX is not exactly mentioned in Andy Weir's book, they do show up in a promotional piece for the movie, expanding the lore for it. Remember that the book was published in 2011 (writing began in 2009!), while the movie came out in 2015. They basically had their own space station, and helped construct the Hermes spacecraft.https://www.docdroid.net/Zxk9zKw/the-martian-ares-3-mission-guide-pdf>The Hermes was assembled in low Earth orbit with the new SpaceX Station serving as an assembly platform. Individual parts were transported to the station piece by piece.So basically by 2015, when they started trying landing their first rockets, they were considered important enough that they kinda retconned the story a bit, and decided to include them.
>>16435836Nothing works without the dust storm. The entire movie falls about without dangerously high winds to keep it aloft.
>>16435849That Hermes ship is classic old-space jank, I love it.
>>16435790>you now remember the pickle rick tweet
>>16435847>The Martian literally opens with a red sunset. Everything about it is wrong.Compared to falling into black holes and entering the gravitational gateway to your daughter's bedroom lmao?
>>16435847Autism
>>16435854Ok what about Gravity. That's pretty realistic in comparison.
>>16435854I've never fallen into a black hole, maybe that's how it works. I have seen pictures of the sunset on Mars and it's not red.
>>16435849Interesting bit of an interview with Andy Weir, stating why had he included SpaceX, there would've been no plot basically lol>Q: SpaceX never appears in your book. Instead, there are the more traditional aerospace companies like Boeing and Lockheed Martin. That surprised me.>You have to remember that I started writing this in 2009, and they were not a proven company then. If I was writing it now, SpaceX would be in there but I would have to come up with a reason why they couldn’t help out with the mission. They might be too fast. I wanted the cooperation of the Chinese to be in there in some desperate situations and to depend on their rockets. That was a plot element I wanted.And notice that he said this 9 years ago...
>>16435856Have you seen the fucking orbital mechanics in that movie? It's god awful. The stay stole the whole opening scene from freaking Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 lmao
>>16435862You're prepared to make endless excuses for Le Martian, why not Gravity?
>>16435865Having a too powerful dust storm or the special effects guys fuck up and make the sunset red instead of blue is nothing compared to seeing Geroge Clooney somehow being able produce inertia out of nothing lmao.
>>16435868>Geroge Clooney somehow being able produce inertia out of nothingnta you were talking to, but for some reason this is the only scene that I vividly remember from that movie lmao
>>16435746In orbit assembly, or if you prefer, space weldingMars missions will necessitate giant modular ships that cannot be launched in one piece from earth and simple docking will not be enough to tie them together
>>16435851
>>16435868>Geroge Clooney somehow being able produce inertia out of nothing lmaoIt's called QI and it is more logical than standard cosmology
>>16435876Except for the part where it gives wrong answers to known cosmology.
>>16435884that's because known cosmology is wrong, not QI
>>16435885That's not how logical deduction works. Allegations of falsehood need to be backed by evidence.
>>16435742I don't know if you are being retarded on purposeanyway, extremely retarded postfractally wrong is appropriate as the other anon saidwrong assumptions and taking the wrong conclusions from thesebasically every single thing is wrong
Good night /sfg/, dont let the e*rthers bite.
>>16435887If QI is false, how was George Clooney able to move himself without propellant
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846586218726990132I wonder why he thought they had such a low chance on each catch attempt, that translates to like 40-60% of succeeding on each attempt (even if you increase the chance after each one somewhat)
>>16435922see you tomorrow
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846705187286557113
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846689569556558234
>>16435732its just going to remove the bureucracy somewhatits not really about speeding up or paying off thats the thing here, its about the alternative being actively harmful and slowing things down on multiple frontsperhaps the trump admin will give some new mission to NASA targeting mars using SpaceX stuff, but that doesn't really matterSpaceX will do it whether they get a contract for a few bil or not, its not like they really need itthe critical factor is to get the obstructing bureucrats out of the way and the choices are:Trump (mostly indifferent) vs Kamala (actively hostile)
>>16435732Literally nobody will show up.
>>16435940wanna bet?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846771166561657328
>>16435940Just like your birthday parties?
>>16435729no they are spaceplanes
>>16435946I dont have birthday parties because Im not a fetus. Have regular parties, faggot.
>>16435945Elon no!
>>16435953
>>16435756lol so the crew side is over then
>>16435928Probably due to the sheer number of things that could preclude an attempt at the last moment like a failed relight or some other anomaly. Also concerns about the chopsticks on tower A being too long and heavy, which remains true. A lot of work was done on them between then and now adding even more complexity.>>16435933So launch them on Falcon 9? >>16435936>Trump (mostly indifferent)Perhaps Trump the person might be, but Trump the politician created the USSF and brought back the NSC. SpaceX succeeding and being at the forefront of space exploration plays into his America first mantra and he would love to be able to take credit for removing bureaucratic roadblocks. He can immediately order the installation commander at Vandenberg to ignore the coastal commission and proceed with the increased launch cadence.
>>16435765>Democrats can cook up a 2nd SpaceX with subsidies in the exact same way Obama gave him billions to make SpaceX, and Republicans don't believe in SpaceX period.LMAOO, you are absolutely delusional
>>16435770it doesnt matter, EVs will become the dominant form of transport not because of subsidies or banning of ICE but because they will simply become the clearer better choicebetter in any way and substantially cheaper, right now some of them are already cheaper from a TCO perspective but in the future they will become cheaper looking at the sticker price too, it just takes a while for the masses to adjust
>>16435789yeah, he chose the steel + landing on the chopsticks despite pushback from most of his engineers for instance
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846826452282479012reminder that mobile launch tower 2 for SLS costs about as much as the complete contract NASA gave to SpaceX for HLSthe people have no idea how corrupt and incompetent the SLS shit is
>>16435971more specifically 2.7bil for the tower vs 2.9bil for a massive moon lander
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2024/10/02/sls-is-still-a-national-disgrace/SLS defenders need to be humiliated every chance possible
>>16435825most is comparative niggaare you autistic?
>>16435971>Effectively
>>16435975But whatvif no soelling error?
fags
>>16435965Bu-but hydrogen fuel cells!
>>16435953>>16435953get ready for another 2 weeks of hanging out with Bibi
>>16435933I think I know why a french dude is so unhinged on /pol/ about SpaceX glanced over a few threads about SpaceX/Musk after the chopstick landings and a french flag with EDS seemed to be in every threadlmao
>>16435963>So launch them on Falcon 9? Its a news story about Airbus laying off workers, SpaceX and Elon Musk are specifically mentioned as causes why they lost 1.5b during the last two years in their space sector because of the competitionthey didn't mention the launch business specifically but I think F9 is probably precisely the problem, its demolishing Ariane 5 and 6s market now
>>16435963> Trump the politician created the USSF and brought back the NSCyeah good point, in that respect they do have an interest in making USA even more powerful from a space perspective
No way New Glenn is going to be launched in November, how can a company that never went to orbit expect to go to orbit in the span of one month? Insane.
>>16435965EVs will remain a niche
>>16435980You scratch my back, I will scratch yours, right?Mission accomplished, with the right friends.Or at least, permission.Back have been stabbed...
>>16435993Wrong.
>>16435993its simply economics, people will choose EVs due to money (and later self-driving ride hail will supersede owned EVs mostly)ICE will be for enthusiasts a bit like horses now
>>16436009>ICE will be for enthusiasts a bit like horses nowThere's a bit of this already with driving a manual
>>16435764Get that ugly, fucked up italian flag the fuck off of my space suit please, prada
>>16435766Wow! Looks like shit!
>>16436009Maybe 70 km range golf carts in Asian bug hives. EVs with usable range for America contain extra half-ton of materials and will never be cheaper than air breathing cars.Ambient O2 is literally free energy and EVs cannot compete with that physical reality.
>>16436032you are simply ignorant and wrong
>>16435756>>16435962So what are they going to do with all those old rockets that they've reserved for shitliner launches?
>>16435825At least it has some concept of orbital mechanics, unlike Gravity.>but muh high-rez see-gee-eyesIf those were the only three poll options, it's like asking "which candy tastes best?">shit>poop>feces
>>16436032>EVs cannot compete with that physical reality.you're right, they can't compete when every ICEFAG is a complete retard
>>16436039Probably sell them for cheap to someone else. More kuiper?
>>16435854BRO, ITS SO REALISTIC BRO. DID YOU EVEN KNOW THEY ASKED A PHYSICIST ABOUT THAT SCENE AND HE SAID YEAH!!!!1!!
>>16436042the reentry scene in gravity was pretty good. if the ho drowned at the end and was killed by gravity (the titile of the film) then it would have been artistic excellence, but of course they had to have a happy ending and ruin it.
>>16436032>reee it's bad if you can't drive from NY to Florida in one sitting!!!Why do boomers always say this when they have to get up to pee every hour anyway?
anyone else impressed by the glide ratio on this thing
>>16436079what is there to be impressed about? a stupid steel can falls back to the earth. WOOOOOW....
https://x.com/Tesla_Optimus/status/1846797392521167223https://x.com/julianibarz/status/1846801329030934944https://x.com/_milankovac_/status/1846803709281644917https://x.com/AnandSwa/status/1846800351330291819
>>16435714>t. former-spacexerwe have those here??
>>16435718What's their job position called?
>>16435714why did you leave?
>>16436083has it been trained to have sex with a person yet?
>>16436042fucking kek
>>16436083>still not sprinting through an obstacle course that changes each time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMgpD3gj1ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnUfuogBOw0
>>16436083But every news outlet is writing how Musk got HUMILIATED for stealing iRobot design and remote controlling them.
>>16435971>musk saw handmer's blogHow hard do you think he's cumming
>>16436083>>16436104>Anand Swaminathan
did they do an interview with the guys that went on the first civilian flight with spacex after they came back?
>>16436117you mean inspiration 4? they made documentaries about itif you mean polaris dawn, then yes there are plenty of post flight interviews from that too
>>1643574218m Starships when?
>>16436120no motherfucker i mean that one who rode on falcon 1 flight 5 all them years ago.
>>16436120alright found it
>>16436121two more weeks
>>16435771Based
>>16436122what the fuck
>>16435973JFC, easy to guess that piece of shit was taking the budgets from a lot of other projects at NASA, but not absolutely killing everything else the entire organisation does this much. Utterly fucking insane
>>16435825>argues about how realistic fiction isAre you an infant?
>>16435868>ゲロゲI laffed
>>16435825Despite it being a major plot point of the movie, sts and tiangon were never operational at the same time.
>>16436151its an alternate history dawg. apart from that the movie is competely sound.
>>16436042poop>feces>shit
>>16435928With a probability p of success in one attempt, the expected number of tries until success is 1/p, so three tries until success corresponds to 1/3 chance of success in one try.
>>16435933Hopefully their rotten way of life and terrible ideologies will go along with them when Europe collapses for the last time.Seriously, does the rest of the world need Europe for anything? Spaceflight doesn't.
>>16436158needs a Saturn V paint job
>>16436164Please no! Some of my friends live there!
>>16435732>home of the 1st WawaI love how this is the most significant fact about that place.
https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-announces-us-industry-partnerships-to-advance-moon-mars-technology/>As NASA prepares to land humans on the Moon by 2024 with the Artemis program, commercial companies are developing new technologies, working toward space ventures of their own, and looking to NASA for assistance. NASA has selected 13 U.S. companies for 19 partnerships to mature industry-developed space technologies and help maintain American leadership in space.>SpaceX will work with Glenn and Marshall to advance technology needed to transfer propellant in orbit, an important step in the development of the company’s Starship space vehicle.
>>16436171Why the fuck are they still using renders of altair when HLS has been starship for 3 years now?
>>16436077I had to recharge a rental in the middle of an overnight 150 mile drive because of a cancelled flight, barely made it to a charging station and had to wait for fucking hours for the shitbox to charge.If you have to drive a short range car it will fuck you sooner or later.
>>16435933>space conquest technologyI like it, musk should start using that himself.
>>16436157Flight 5 > Flight 4 > Flight 3 > Flight 2 > Flight 1
>>16436172Like I said last thread, NASA is pretending Starship doesn't exist. It changes nearly everything they do in a way that would be very painful. 4U
>>16436171by 2024?
>>16436181>articles from 2019kek
>>16436181>>16436172look it's a 2019 article lmao
>>16435983they are often flat earthers and/or moonlanding deniers on /pol/. think i know the frenchanon you mean.
Expendable vehicles make everything easier. If NASA had not gotten tied to the STS LEO bus and oldspace leadership was as dynamic and ambitious as SpaceX, then Mars 1980 would have been a goal rather than a fantasy, and Mars 1919 would have been a reality. Most normies actually think that reality happened. They take for granted that humans landed on Mars at some point and that people visit the moon a lot.
>>16436180just checked their most recent news, literally nothing about starship at all, just clipper and DEI outreach trash
>>16436187*Mars 1990 not 1919
>>16436187the shuttle and its consequences
>>16435993until the range and longevity of the storage/generation mechanism rivals combustion engines i think you're correct.
>Most High-density Exoplanets Are Unlikely to Be Remnant Giant-planet Cores>Some exoplanets have much higher densities than expected from stellar abundances of planet-forming elements. There are two theories - metal-rich formation hypothesis and naked core hypothesis - that explain how formation and evolution can alter the compositions and structures of rocky planets to diverge from their primordial building blocks. Here, we revisit the naked core hypothesis, which states that high-density planets are remnant cores of giant planets that remain in a fossil-compressed state, even after envelope loss....We find that some high-density exoplanets can still possibly be naked cores, but the probabilities are lower than ∼1/2 and ∼1/3 for the ice giant and gas giant scenario, respectively, in 95% of the cases. We conclude that most high-density exoplanets are unlikely to be remnant giant-planets cores.https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.12640then wtf are these ultra dense planets?
>>16436077>pee every hour anyway?lol. it must be a (you)r bladder problem
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-17/michael-bloomberg-nasa-s-artemis-moon-mission-is-a-colossal-wastehttps://archive.is/LvAzW
>>16436196Mercury is a gas giant core.
>>16436104Just the usual propaganda channels programming their drones
>>16436203>By Michael R. Bloombergeh. do you think Elon got him spacepilled
>>16436209Cant trust him fully given Bloomberg publishes so many anti-Tesla and anti-Musk propaganda articles
peak control room aesthetics
>>16436203I'm down to shit on Artemis but it seems like this fat cat doesn't want to land people on the moon at all
>>16436203>complexity In Artemis terms this is code for>Starship launches and refills too many times
>>16436209If you actually read the article then you'll see this is not a spacepilled criticism of artemis.
>>16436223>The problems start with the mission, which is more political than scientific. There is little humans can do on the moon that robots cannot. Technology has come a long way since 1969, to put it mildly. We do not need another person on the moon to collect rocks or take scientific measurements. And the costs of putting people on the moon — and of planning for their potential rescue, should complications arise — are truly astronomical.Yeah, dudes actively anti-space
>>16436223don't read things written by jews but good to know
>>16435732But he's a terrible speaker. Negative charisma.Does he not know this?
>>16436231is that why he can convince armies of people to follow him to the ends of the earth?
>>16436231get a grip tranny.
>>16436165Paint is 2heavy.
has anyone ever voiced a good reason asto why they removed the white paint on the shuttle ET? That paint was clearly structural, as evidenced by all the foam falling off when it wasnt painted. Funny how that wasnt a problem on the first 3 flights....
>give a realistic estimate of a Mars landing in the 2040s>/sfg/ reeeeees uncontrollablyembarrassing tbph
>>16436241That wasn't the point, it was thermal stuff, they thought the hydrologs would evap too unless it was white.
>>16436242>calls it realistic>not actually working on any rocket that goes to mars>not actually making anything that would go to mars>spins up wild fantasy "realistic" takes without any grounding and without any account of external forces armchair
>>16436235just once, pls, it would be kino
>>16436243the paint served multiple purposes. the insulation was never suppsoed to be exposed to the air. Of course foam will peel off if exposed to supersonic airflow
>>16436242why do you spam him here? I know you are the one who links every video he posts multiple times. what do you get out of using a website full of people who would gleefully kill you?
>>16436242this shilling has to be ironic shitposting at this point lol
A Tour of the Lunar South Polehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnv9ZQ0wfaw&t
X37B is having fun
>>16436247We're getting white paint on HLS.
>>16436244The kid literally just spits out his baseless opinion with no explanation or sources and presents it as fact. His Mars landing by 2050 point is exclusively because he wants it to happen after Elon is dead
>>16436250
STOP POSTING KIKEPLANET
space exploration?
>>16436255oh now i realized its just another retard literalwho spammer
>>16436253Whatever heat shielding it uses, SpaceX needs that. The current shuttle tiles on Starship cant survive entry from anything higher than LEO
Pads are springing up like mushrooms at Jiuquan.
>>16436252
>>16436263China is desperate for launch capacity
Kinetica 2 crunch test
>>16436263based changs, chinks on the moon is only a good thing at this point
cute small french (Sirius space) methalox engineThey want to cluster 42 of them together kek
>>16436267is it ok
>>16436268slants on the moon would begin an immediate inquest on the part of the dumb-as-doorknobs median voters in this country as to why they beat us back. Once the obvious answer becomes clear, the weak elements of our space program can be purged.
>>16436273exactly
>>16436250when a jewish tranny is shoving a dildo up his ass in front of you on a regular occasion it's no longer trolling
>le chink moon shock memeoh boy!
>>16435971btw is this the first time Musk has shat on SLS?
>>16436282Almost certainly not.
Barnard's Star is so backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiR93GN74uQ
Total Kyplanet-poster death
I'm going to eat my own ass
Is Tang actually any good? wanted to import some and try it
https://x.com/xDaily/status/1846902888968183837https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-17/musk-s-empire-risks-being-targeted-by-eu-for-potential-x-fines>The European Union has warned X that it may calculate fines against the social-media platform by including revenue from Elon Musk’s other businesses, including Space Exploration Technologies Corp. and Neuralink Corp., an approach that would significantly increase the potential penalties for violating content moderation rules.>Under the EU’s Digital Services Act, the bloc can slap online platforms with fines of as much as 6% of their yearly global revenue for failing to tackle illegal content and disinformation or follow transparency rules. Regulators are considering whether sales from SpaceX, Neuralink, xAI and the Boring Company, in addition to revenue generated from the social network, should be included to determine potential fines against X, people familiar with the matter said, asking not to be identified because the information isn’t public.
>>16436292Fuck the EU.
>>16436292Salty yuropoors just trying to eliminate the competition
>>16436292Is this normal? I've never heard about a business being targeted because they're owned by the same people as another business before the brazilian thing.
>>16436292>Piercing the veil in such a public and obvious mannerChrist what is brussels thinking.
>>16436298No, it's not normal. They're angry about their control mechanisms being undermined and their graft sources being competed out of existence.
>>16436298no, this sounds like some eu commissars power fantasy and doesn't even sound legalbut the EU has been doing all kind of retarded shit so I wouldn't say its impossible
>>16436292Abort the Orion nuclear battleship over Europe
>>16436269It'd be great if they can finish it before Avio completes the M10. That bitch of an engine has been in development since 2007.
>>16436292if elon kneeled to brazil, he will kneel to EU
>>16436303but I live here, do it over brussels please
>>16436292Euro brain drain is the great filterAll civilizations out there in space probably form their own form of Western society, which undoubtedly falls to no enemy but itself if given enough time
How the United States will Colonize Spacehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj8ELS6NQbk&t
>>16436306he already said he will start a very public court case about this if it happens
>>16436309By nuking europe and africa and tel avivnow buy an ad already
>>16436310He will fight for a bit and then back down, like he always does
>>16436309>>16436284kill yourself
>>16436315I would say him backing down is an exception, just because it happened recently with Brazil doesn't make it common, i.e. he is campaigning for Trump in Pennsylvania right nowthat isn't backing down, he didn't back down with the advertisers in the US, didn't back down with vision only for FSD, didn't back down with tower catch or any number of things
>>16436320That's US, but he has no power in any other country
>>16436315>>16436320What happened with the Brazil situation?
>>16436323apparently X appointed a person, paid the fines and banned the accounts that the judge wanted to, though I haven't looked into it too much
>>16436292It is always a temptation to an armed and agile nationTo call upon a neighbour and to say: --"We invaded you last night -- we are quite prepared to fight,Unless you pay us cash to go away."And that is called asking for Dane-geld,And the people who ask ti explainThat you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geldAnd then you'll get rid of the Dane!It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,To puff and look important and to say: --"Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.We will therefore pay you cash to go away."And that is called paying the Dane-geld;But we've proved it again and again,That if once you have paid him the Dane-geldYou never get rid of the Dane.It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,For fear they should succumb and go astray;So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,You will find it better policy to say: --"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,No matter how trifling the cost;For the end of that game is oppression and shame,And the nation that plays it is lost!"
>>16436328https://x.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1843773083783471139https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/09/21/musk-backs-down-in-brazil-x-may-return-after-compiling-with-court-orders/>X’s lawyers said in a Friday court filing cited by the Times that X complied with the orders asking the social network to remove accounts accused of engaging in disinformation, as well as demands from the Supreme Court regarding fines and the assignment of a new legal representative for X in Brazil.
however the brazil situation did show the world how censorious they are, even if X did comply in the endwithout this, almost nobody would have known
>>16435732Well let's just hope Trump wins, because of the other side wins he's fucked. Democrats are known to be spiteful and petty towards their political enemies.
>>16436333It also showed how you make elon cave, by targetting his other companies, thats why the EU is doing this.
>>16435742>It's gonna have the government take away his Tesla subsidiesI think they'll be just fine. Tesla is selling cars like crazy.
>>16436335this wouldn't be targeting his other companies, it would use their revenues in the calculation for the fineso probably some absurdly high fine but X could just withdraw from the EU
>>16436332Musks continues to pick up the silliest fights
>>16435784Doesn't he have 12 kids? 1 of them coming out a failure isn't that big of a deal
>>16436338free speech is critical if you don't want the world to fall to authoritarian dictatorships
>>16436337>X could just withdraw from the EUNo way they'd do that.
>>16436339generally i've seen in most families it's only 1 in 3, or 1 in 4 kids that actually end up successful. A single tranny in a dozen is definitely an achievement itself kek
>>16436343if the fine is something like 20 billion then do they have a choice? people in the EU can just use a VPNI think the brazil thing was mostly about the blocking of Starlink, which hurt people on the ground in brazil too
>>16436333Normies are so blindly anti-musk they sided with brazil on this.
>went on exploring in Elite Dangerous>initially interesting but gets stale and I begin only caring about finding high value planets for money>can't actually truly explore any interesting planets and you can't land on any life bearing water worldsWill there ever be a space video game that doesn't have shallow space exploration?
>>16436350yeah its insane
>>16436292>Entire EU parliament suffers EDSwasn't on on my bingo card desu
>>16436350>I mean, it is the law>>16436351I play Minecraft with space mods so I can go to another planet and build a factory on it (just like real life)
>>16436354Minecraft and factories? Did you mean Factorio with the space mod?
>>16436351Yes
Does anything come close? It feels like this was the absolute peak in spacex promo contenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWFFiubtC3c
>>16436261>source: I wish you to believe it
>>16436361I like this video, and I'm not even American.https://youtu.be/orVonJwofD8
>>16436291It's fine. It's not a particularly good or subtle flavor but with enough sugar it is sweet.
>>16436358>he doesn't know
>>16436292It looks like Europe has outlived its usefulness.
>>16436307Then it's your fault. Accept the consequences of your actions like a man, not a euro.
>>16436335He said he would comply with the law and then he did comply with the law. Where's the incredible gotcha here?
Post some spaceflight wallpapers
>>16436376I've been voting against this every time
>>16436343It would be extremely based
>>16436382Current home screen
>>16436382Current lock screen
>>16436392>>16436394>mobile wallpaperNormoid pls
>>16435765Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot, you post this gay demoralizing horseshit every single day. Fuck off anon, go to a different site and post there instead.>inb4 b8There's no difference between retardation and pretend retardation if you aren't funny with it.
>>16436400What, you guys don't have phones?Anyway some type of autism prevents me from changing my desktop wallpaper ever
>>16436083Why is every employee asian
post rare pictures of Earth from space
>>16435854I'd enter the gravitational gateway of my daughter. If you know what I mean
>>16436411Scott, no!
>>16436083>pick up a 25lb battery traySo it can finally handle an American new born?
>>16436292>elon, you just can't take money from one company and put it in another, that belongs to the shareholders>we can though
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1846928286502596859
>>16436407Looks like bump mapping
>>16436423What might have been
>>16436394>Not having a full stack as the lock so when you swipe up it launches, lands on the home screen and locks to restack
>>16435825I'm a sucker for adventure stories like Shackleton, Lewis & Clark, etc. so I love the Martian. I just watched it again yesterday. All the struggles are trivially solved in an age of rapid/cheap reuse and megatons of upmass/year enabled by Starship. But it's still entertaining. It is a closeish to realistic take on Mars. More realistic than John Carter. Moon (2009) is a pretty accurate take on near future space, but the economics of the plot twist seems unlikely to be worth it.Casey Handmer has an amusing take on this: https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2021/04/09/the-martian-starship/ So yes, I know its not the most realistic, it is a good story about the triumph of Man vs Mars. The most fragile Mars trip is going to be the first one, but SpaceX will probably have a few staged Starships on location, with (hundreds of) tons of resources and spares and margin for an unexpectedly long stay. >>16435851Yeah, its a nice looking ship. It's so large for such a small crew. Compare it to Zubrin's Tuna Can Habs, where people to Mars have slightly more room than Apollo (basically sitting in a van for like 2 years). lol.
>>16436435Lock screen is the launch, home screen is the landing. I don't want to see the whole stack
>>16436440Starship makes every mars mission proposal before it look like a joke. Even if we can’t get 1 million people by 2050, McMurdo on mars will be trivial.
>>16436094>can plug itself in using rear camerasyes
Still no word on IFT6 objectives?
>>16436453kate tice should demo it while giving the next starship presentation
>>16436459Probably shitloads of meetings going on right now to determine that since everything went to well and any assumptions that missed objectives from flight 5 would need to be attempted again on flight 6 no longer apply.
>>16436459IIRC they're aiming for a precise lithobreaking using the wilber wright building
https://x.com/AstroPeggy/status/1846907269369258030>Training for Ax-4 has begunaxiom paid their bills?
>>16436453
>>16435789He's not an engineer. Musk is many hthings, but not an engineer. He's just another rich white guy, like Jeff Bezos. Bezos will soon be SpaceXs's largest competitor in a year. Bezos has more money and influence with Amazon, which he runs better than Musk runs twitter.
It's middle of October, is 6th flight even happening this year
>>16436469It is funny that the "billionaire space race" is a guy who built a hundred billion dollar space business vs a guy who dumped a hundred billion dollars into a space business
>>16436469Your premise is wrong because Bezos is an engineer.
>>16436467maybe SpaceX gave them more time to pay
>>16436471>he doesn't know
>>16436471Not if they decide that the Block 1 ship has outlived its usefulness
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1846893660341698966
The UK went from space age to third world. I'm writing this one my 500kbps ethernet connection. they are moving 300 more immigrants into my area next year so i expect it to get slower. the upload speed changes noticeably depending on how many characters I write, so I will have to keep this short.
Xuntian's optical section in dev>>16436471probably, people in the know say anything from late november to early january apparently.
https://spacenews.com/nasa-further-delays-first-operational-starliner-flight/>“It’s under data review. We need to have a decision: do we need another test flight?” NASA Deputy Administrator Pam Melroy said when asked about the status of the Starliner review at a press conference during the International Astronautical Congress (IAC) here Oct. 16. She added there was no timeline for completing that data review. >Another open issue for future commercial crew flights is whether NASA and Roscosmos will continue to exchange seats between Soyuz and commercial crew vehicles.>Currently, no NASA astronauts are assigned to Soyuz spacecraft beyond Jonny Kim on the next Soyuz mission to the ISS, Soyuz MS-27 in March 2025. Roscosmos officials released in August crew manifests for the following two Soyuz flights, Soyuz MS-28 in late 2025 and Soyuz MS-29 in 2026, that were comprised entirely of Roscosmos cosmonauts.
>>16436492>500kbpsoh you cheeky cunt. 'ave the gal to whine about such preposterously breakneck speeds?
>>16436498Q1 2025 cancellation
>>16436404same I've had the same wallpaper for probably ten years
>>16436492leave
>>16436491The chinese can keep up the mantle while we wait for commercial stations to come online.
>>16436505How do I become an American, pls
>>16436504I have about 8000 images in a big folder, and my background is set to pull randomly from it every other hour. Now and then I'll head to /wg/ or /w/ and save another few dozen backgrounds that look nice to me at the time. I like variety.
>>16436510Book a flight to Mexico and jump the border, I'll be waiting for you at Starbase.
Can AST still compete? Starlink is absolutely crushing everything right now
>>16436515but Trump is going to deport the illegals
>>16436519Only if you get caught.
>>16436516maybepersonally I wouldn't bet against elon
>>16436516The only market they can compete in is the very real "anything but Elon Musk" market.
>>16436521true
>>1643647150/50
>>16436507He said human
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-17/michael-bloomberg-nasa-s-artemis-moon-mission-is-a-colossal-wasteWtf I love Bloomberg now?
>>16436541>A celestial irony is that none of this is necessary. A reusable SpaceX Starship will very likely be able to carry cargo and robots directly to the moon — no SLS, Orion, Gateway, Block 1B or ML-2 required — at a small fraction of the cost. Its successful landing of the Starship booster was a breakthrough that demonstrated how far beyond NASA it is moving.Speaking to Gateway’s uselessness as well, praising Starship in the process of calling it useless. When did this guy become a knower??
>>16436541Read between the lines. King Zog over here would prefer that no humans go to the moon at all.
>>16436545You fucking retard, he thinks the private sector should do it and not have NASA waste hundreds of billions on useless shit like SLS. You are defending SLS and Gateway and ML-2 right now. Consider where you stand before you open your mouth assuming what others think. He also directly says >>16436543 that SpaceX is far beyond NASA, and >Meanwhile, NASA is canceling or postponing promising scientific programs — including the Veritas mission to Venus; the Viper lunar rover; and the NEO Surveyor telescope, intended to scan the solar system for hazardous asteroids — as Artemis consumes ever more of its budget. >Taxpayers and Congress should be asking: What on Earth are we doing? And the next president should be held accountable for answers.He is clearly stating that SpaceX should be flying people to the moon and beyond at a cost effective rate, AND GIVE MORE FUNDING TO SCIENCE MISSIONS.THIS IS LITERALLY THE MOST COMMON /sfg/ POSITION.
>>16436552Him only mentioning using Starship to deliver robots and cargo is odd. If he meant that Starship should be used to send our astronauts as well then why not say that?
>>16436552>>16436554He clearly and plainly says he does not want people on the moon.>The problems start with the mission, which is more political than scientific. There is little humans can do on the moon that robots cannot. Technology has come a long way since 1969, to put it mildly. We do not need another person on the moon to collect rocks or take scientific measurements. And the costs of putting people on the moon — and of planning for their potential rescue, should complications arise — are truly astronomical.I don't know how you two missed this.
Why does falcon heavy need to have too many Gs for astronauts? They’re clearly comfortable air starting merlins, so they could leave the center core off until near booster burnout to get a ride as gentle as a normal f9.
>>16436554maybe he doesnt care about that, but doesn't seem to be against private companies doing what they want with thatmore about Starship delivering the cargo and robots that NASA would be making for science missions so NASA can focues on the sciencehe did talk about robots being more cost effective than humans for science, but that is quite a common misconceptiondidn't really seem to be against humans in space per se, just that humans in space as an excuse for science (assuming they were much less cost effective) is not goodbut if he was shown that humans can actually be very effective for science missions too, then perhaps he would change his mind about that
>>16436541It's only a waste as a moon missionAs a corporate welfare program it is staggeringly successful
>>16436559its about cost, not some ideological position about human not going to the moon
Esoteric Zubrinism
>>16436566No, the lines "There is little humans can do on the moon that robots cannot. Technology has come a long way since 1969, to put it mildly. We do not need another person on the moon to collect rocks or take scientific measurements." are clearly ideological in nature, not statements of fact.
>>16436564Oh, well good to know that King Zog won't use his powers to prevent good goys from flying to the moon on their own dime if they wish. Clearly a win for people who are pro-space that this guy will cut all public funding for moon exploration completely but won't ban it outright.
>>16436559Well I cant speak to what he meant on that. I would still assume that he means if you are only sending them to the moon for a science mission like getting roggs and not to build a permanent prescence, whats the point of sending humans. Artemis is not very serious about putting a permanent human prescence on the moon, thats like an aspiration they benched. Again, later in the article he mentiond that NASA has been cancelling science missions. I think he is essentially saying people can go to the moon probably on Starship (maybe should go), but not for stupid things that rovers can do like rock collection and shit. Which is a fairly reasonable position desu, its a massive waste of money to just go for that. We need permanent prescence and using NASA money on SLS and Gateway is a collosal waste of time and effort that would be better spent on other science missions and improving the plan for permanent US prescence than some rinky dink go up and down maybe supply this station no buildings on the moon.NASA is not serious about permanent lunar colonization, lets face it.
>>16436569its a common misconception, does not really seem idological to me unlike planetary protection people seem to have
>>16436572>cut all public funding for moon exploration completely but won't ban it outrightThat's a good thing, considering the abject waste involved with everything SLS comes into contact with. I want boots on the moon but NASA seems to want a permanent work program that delivers nothing but shame.
>>16436573the only thing NASA is serious about is shoveling money into the pockets of oldspace contractorsmissions actually succeeding is just extra work,you have to come up with a new mission
>>16436574It's ideological cause he doesn't even consider any other reason for people to be there. The idea that the only thing worth doing in space is science for sciences sake is an ideological position.
>>16436576If there's no public money to travel to the moon in particular, Elon won't do it
>>16436572>cut all public fundingAre you retarded? Scratch that you definetly are since you are spazzing out about muh juice. He literally says there that SpaceX can accomplish this and at a fraction of the cost, he also clearly states that we should still be sending things to the moon. That obviously says that funding should go to SpaceX for ALL of these missions due to their reusability and capabilities, which means MORE funding goes to SpaceX. Quite literally /sfg/s exact position on Artemis and you still have to complain that a super mainstream and popular journalist is spreading it to the masses because you are obsessed with shoving /pol/ rhetoric everywhere you can. This is obviously not cutting all public funding and you are maliciously strawmanning his argument because you are a deranged /pol/ack that needs to go back. >>>/pol/
>>16435825it's objectively the most realistic of the 3 movies there
Lunar quartz coffee tables
SpaceX be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn4k2TPIJf0
>>16436584I remember this episode of looney tunes.
>>16436578thats not what he is sayingisn't NASA supposed to be a science organization?
>>16436583Martian granite countertops
>>16436580Simply pay them for it, then. No need to pioneer a billion-a-launch rocket, no need to engineer new hardware, no requirement to build up your own mission architecture. Just pay SpaceX and tell them what you want, they will deliver.>>16435825I did not care for Interstellar. Gravity is stupid but pretty to look at. The Martian is enjoyable to watch.
>>16436580Bezos will
>>16436587No, that is what he's saying, maybe he meant something different but thats what he said. I directly quoted it to you.You might believe he meant something different but you cannot derive you're preferred interpretation from what he said.
Jeff Benzos
>>16436581Literally states SpaceX should be sending all these things NASA has (which as an EXAMPLE he said robots and cargo) to the moon and you somehow think he wants no NASA money to go to SpaceX. He ALSO SAYS>As someone who greatly respects science and strongly supports space exploration, the more I have learned about Artemis, the more it has become apparent that it is a colossal waste of taxpayer money.OBVIOUSLY he wants space exploration to happen when he says he STRONGLY SUPPORTS IT and only singles out Artemis as in need of rethinking
>>16436588This would have caused the boomers to actually fund a mars program
>>16436581/sfg/'s position on Artemis is that it should be remade around SpaceX to send PEOPLE to the moon. This eiwige terminal-peddler mistakenly believes that the American desire for progress will be sated by gay ass robots to do soience in the face of Chinese boots and flags. Midget Mike is sorely mistaken.
>>16436292He just wouldnt pay it lmao
>>16436592
>>16436384Maybe consider killing politicians
>>16436584accurate depiction of 21st century rocket programs
>>16436595You fucking retard, he very obviously gave those AS EXAMPLES. He said he strongly supports space exploration, you think that somehow doesnt include people?? You send cargo and robots to the moon AHEAD of humans landing, which is exactly how SpaceX and Elon said they would plan a Mars landing. You assume the absolute worst because you are a deranged autist and cant be happy when he leaves even the most obvious things slightly vague. A MAINSTREAM OUTLET IS CRITICIZING ARTEMIS AND CALLING FOR RETHINKING AND PRAISING SPACEX IN THE PROCESS, QUITE LITERALLY CALLING FOR THEM TO RECEIVE MORE MISSIONS AND FUNDING. You should be ECSTATIC that this is becoming a mainstream opinion.
>>16436605>you think that somehow doesnt include people??I don't, but he clearly does as he states twice in the article.I don't know why you're fanboying so hard over michael bloomberg of all people.
>>16436601the European Union might fall apart in the next few years
>>16436607A positive development but may not be enough
>>16436541spaceguy5 is quaking in his boots rn
>sen has 4k cameras on the ISS>only uploads 720p clips...?
>>16436560they cant because... THEY JUST CANT OKAY!!!1!
>>16436613pay for L2.
>>16436468god i want to fuck a cute nandroid and get her pregnant so bad why did you have to remind me anon.when will elon make them real?
>>16436622That’s uhhh kinda a lot of fire in the engine bay
https://x.com/torybruno/status/1846967709461844067
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1846957249744589273
>>16436627He knows its over
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1846957051840221487
>>16436631He just wants to sell it, but there are no buyers
>>16436630Wasnt there a national program that had billions of dollars in it to do this exact same thing? Maybe not specifically Starlink but still, how is this a first if that program exists.
>>16436627That's all you got, cowboy?There is a new Sheriff in Rock Ridge.
>>16436635yes, 42 bil and after 3 years nobody has been connected yet (though apparently some money has been distributed, idk)
>>16436630>>16436635It and SLS have some things in common
>>16436491https://spacenews.com/nasa-weighing-options-for-continuous-human-presence-in-leo-after-iss/
>>16436635>he doesn't know
>>16436630Based Maine!I thought that was a blue state.
>>16436643Blue states work properly if they're majority white.
has spacex hoovered up every competent aerospace engineer in the US or is it just that all other agencies and companies have become so rotten due to DEI and general decay that they are unable to function?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1846953813044818241
>>16436643>paying to connect all the newly imported niggers to the internet for free>not a blue state policy
>>16436650Immigrants don't live upcountry where running fiber is unaffordable. These subsidies exist to directly benefit white sister-fuckers.
>>16436647yes
>>16436423Fixed. Great work NASA
>>16436644Imagine that, wanting nice things, but still voting for self destruction of the rest of our nation.How about ALL 22 million illegals relocate to Maine, and other deep blue states, exclusively?This is blue state policy, so enjoy! The red states should be free from that plague, we never wanted it.
>>16436657lmaooo
>>16436660blorg?
>>16436664Phantom.
>>16436657
>>16436225>There is little humans can do on the moon that robots cannotRover shills are mentally ill
https://x.com/GoToImpulse/status/1846972930871513180
>>16436468Dress up as a fox and we have a deal
>>16436671
>>16435742>Trump isn't serious about space anywayYou don't know about the Golden Retriever project.
>>16436664It'd have to be ULA. The only other non-SpaceX rockets launching from Vandenberg right now are Firefly's Alpha at SLC-2W and Northrop's Minotaur at SLC-8, and neither of those come anywhere close to needing 60 launches per year. Phantom hasn't even started on their pad at SLC-5 and aren't even thinking about any launches before Q1 2026 (and are probably a scam), New Glenn launches out of SLC-9 are even more hypothetical, and we don't even really know if ABL is still functioning as a company. ULA and Vulcan are the only other serious business in town.
>>16436640>That comment puzzled some attendees, who had assumed that continuous human presence meant having people in space continuously. In a later briefing, she called that concept “continuous heartbeat.”NASA: having heartbeat counts as human
>>16436674you could even give her a moveable tail attachment anon.the golden age of robotics will free mankind from the tyranny of flesh-women.
>>16436684This administration just keeps getting worse.
>>16436292funny how they only say this after spacex finished launching their shit
>>16436684>having heartbeat counts as humanNobody tell women
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/1g5fs72/spacex_sues_california_panel_alleges_political/even reddit commenters think the california commission overstepped (mostly), which is somewhat surprising to memaybe due to not being one of the sacred topics like race or sex that can't be criticized or discussed
>>16436697You need to go back
>>16436695oof
>>16436671>26 newtonsThat’s it? Children's toy rockets produce more than that.
>>16436704it's basically a glorified RCS thruster
>>16436697That sub treats SpaceX with kid gloves. Post that to a general news sub and watch the insectoids vomit their munt protein all over their screens in indignation.
>>16436688To the liberal, most things with heartbeats are more important than humans
>>16436292Looks like white people have outlived their usefulness. Time for Musk to realize this and join the asians.
>>16436697of course the spacex reddit will support spacex. step outside of some space reddits though and the comments will be completely different.>It can’t bring stronger charges to the defendant. But it can bring punishment to the judge. In California there is a commission that can remove judges for misconduct, and they can also face criminal chargesimagine being the judge that has to rule on this. they'll quickly become a political target if they're not already buddies with the commissioners. if they rule against the commission then they could face severe repercussions.
I'm getting starship withdrawal, everything is boring
>>16436697go back to dreddit you worthless mutt
https://x.com/GruyereSpace/status/1846951124705697873Small swiss student team builds rocket powered (N2O/Isopropanol)VTVL hopper that flies to 100m and came back.Their budget was quite literally 1,000 times lower than the equivalent ESA program that will barely fly higher.
>>16436716Watch them all graduate and come to america where aerospace jobs actually exist.
*saves tax payers tens of billions*
>>16436697spacex subreddit supports spacex, wow who woulda thought. now go back, retard
>>16436718You’d probably still need ICPS because of how leo optimized starship is. Which means running hydrogen plumbing at starbase.
Bad news.Cody is getting yiffed as we speak.
>>16436727At least he's got protective gear, hopefully life support to avoid breathing in disgusting furry-air.
>>16436722Just launch it from Florida. Regardless, it would have more than enough capability to TLI even without the ICPS.
>>16436722There's only two ICPS units left and the DCSS production line has been dismantled for a few years now. Better to use a Centaur V if you're going to grab something off the shelf. Or you could commission Impulse Space to design a bigger version of Helios.
>>16436727serves him right for whining about mars colonisation.hope the germs wafting off those creatures breach his spacesuit and contaminate his existence instead.
>>16436734The real high iq cots option would be gs2
>>16436718ROCKET. PARTS. ARE. NOT. LEGO.We have been over this.
>>16436710What Asians have the same ambitions as American whites?
>>16436741>implying Musk is american whiteLmao
>>16436740oldspace mentality
>>16436744Retard
>>16436624soon
>>16436740It. JUST. WORKS.
>>16436740Well maybe they should be, ever think of that?>>16436747Nandroid enjoyers will inherit the outer space.
>>16436740Ok for real though, other than designing an interstage, adding the required gse to the launch site, and recalculating some control algorithms, what’s stopping you from mounting any second stage on any big enough booster?
>>16436755You should be thrown out in the tundra, Ivan.
>>16436755>Well maybe they should be,they should be and no, he'd didn't think of that
>>16436747>>16436755glad to see other robofuckers ITT
>>16436769Fuck off shartytard.
>>16436772not from the sharty, i was taking a break from 4ch while that whole thing went down and only learned about it later, that image is just from nanbooru.
>>16436764G loading, aerodynamics and vibration.
>>16436766>"is...is that a....RUSSIAN FLAG!?! NOOOOOOO!"Mindbroken>>16436767Standardization can only decrease complexity, seems like a no-brainer.
>>16436739Probably, but it's hard to make any solid judgements on that until we actually know how much propellant it carries, what its dry mass is, and what the final specs for the BE-3U are. Some of the best numbers we have for those are guesses from nearly a half-decade ago. On the other hand, a Centaur V is 4.8 tons dry with 55 tons of propellant, and the double RL-10C-1-1s have 212 kN of thrust at 454s isp.
>>16436755Mars will be bros and robots only
>>16436777What's the source for these Centaur V numbers? I remember a ULA graphics showing 54t of propellant.
>>16436740Rocket parts have been lego since the beginning of the space age. The stage swapping we've got now is nothing compared to the 1960s. Everyone was mix and matching upper stages and ICBMs back then.
>>16436776Why are you quoting what is already greentexted, god youre a pretentious newfag prick
>>16436786(you)
>>16436766zigger falseflag post.
>>16436786Those are meme arrows used to make fake stories green, I'm not sure what you mean by "quoting"
>>16436791back to >>>/k/
>>16436792He's probably just new around here, let's be patient
I've got it, I know how Elon can keep the flaps on Starship from melting. All he has to do is pour a couple of jugs of radiator fluid in there (maybe some good GM Dexcool, you know the orange stuff) and put like a 100 psi venting radiator cap on there and as soon as those babies get "rainbow" hot that 50/50 coolant/water mix will flash to steam and it will vent out the radiator cap (you know just like how it's supposed to on your car if it's overheating so your engine doesn't melt) thus taking a huge amount of heat with it. Any car guys here know what I'm talking about?
>>16436793not from /k/, just pointing it out.
>>16436795they might have already solved it by moving the flaps out of the plasmaor at least so that the hinges aren't directly in the plasma plume
>>16436792No, greentexting is used to represent quotes as seen >>16436559 here. You are putting quotation marks inside of a greentext, which is redundant because greentext represents quotes which I am pointing out. You also still prove my point, because your ‘fake story’ is also just a fake quote of me to try and poke fun at it. So why use quotation marks on what is already in greentext?
>>16436798the forward hinges seem the be the only real problem.if they move those out of the plasma stream it should probably be fine.
>>16436799lurk moar
>>16436783I'm not sure where specifically the 4,800 kg dry mass came from, but I think it was someone running some autistic number crunching based off of Vulcan's Cert-1 performance and a Tory Bruno tweet that said the CV actually weighed less than 5 tons.
>>16436795But how will the whole system be rapidly reusable if you have to top off the radiator fluid all the time?
>>16436798I still like my idea.
>>16436795regular aqua is the best evaporative coolantboring, I know>>16436798yeah, there's a reason why they moved them on the newer versions already
>>16436776if juts one company can make their stuff easily stackable and exchangeable (engines, tanks etc) then they will have an advantage. if it could be done across numerous companies then yikes, things might get really simple.
>>16436802No counterargument because you didnt know that was its purpose so you project onto me. Brainlet put in his miserable place.
>>16436741American whites are too busy worshipper niggers. There's a reason why SpaceX was founded by a South African white.
>>16436804that's just one more Mexican he has to hire, who tops off the radiator fluid and maybe checks the tire pressure while he's at it
Chances of SpaceX revisiting transpiration cooling in five years?
>>16436815never say never, with Musk in charge they'll always push the envelope in one field or another. Don't think that was even tried was it?
>>1643681550/50, you know why
>>16436799>>16436809Remain angry, please.>>164368150%
>>16436792only plebbitors that automatically think of the greentext screenshots they had handpicked for their favorite sub think arrows are for fake stories only. i think you should consider going back
>>16436799>meme arrows used to make fake stories greenwas supposed to be a joke about the redditor impression of 4chan built exclusively around those stories that start with >be meI'm a totally different anon lol
>>16436819I came here today from reddit
>>16436820bro >>16436819
>>16436807>regular aqua is the best evaporative coolant>boring, I knowthe flaps are filled with frozen water at launch, it's hot water when it lands, thus no burn throughs on the flaps
>why are you guys arguing about using the greater than symbol in the space thread?
>>16436825<I don't know what they're on about, personally.>t.anon (you)
>>16436804get out and top the flapfluid off during coast periods
>>16436815only if it would potentially be lower turnaround than tiles, and we still don't know how well they work yet. I assume even current tiles are still far better than anything shittle had though
>>16436823what
>>16436829I replied to them backwards on accident
>>16436831you dont seem very intelligent. what is your iq?
>>1643683289, but im a visual learner so IQ tests dont play to my strengths.
most intelligent /sfg/ poster
>>16436836you're hired t. NASA
>>16436839kek
>>16436828>better than anything shittle had thoughonly two shapes, is that correct? and not nearly so many funny shapes to fill. seems more efficient
>>16436843every single one of shittles 10,000 tiles were all unique, made of flimsy silica, were only glued on, and the majority of them needed replacing after every flight.
interesting space fact: did any of you know that the shuttle tiles were made of silica and if you heated one in an over until it was red hot after taking it out you could pick it up with your bare hand after just a moment to cool down. that's how well it retained heat. I bet none of you knew that.
>>16436849I did in fact know this
>>16436849yes we have seen that video a million times
>>16436849No, I did not. Thank you for this cool science fact!
>>16436849bet they crumbled easier than a digestive though, pathetic
How exactly are they going to catch starship?Right now they use small steel sockets under the flaps. But thar seems near impossible to quickly grab while hovering. Any other exposed steel would melt. Can't use the flaps themselves because tiles are weak, even the way the catch arms rubbed against the booster would destroy all the tiles lining the sides.I guess the only solution would be some sort of large deployable hooks?
>>16436858legs
>>16436858Kys
>>16436858maybe modify the catch arms in a way so starship could have hooks just on the front, put the deployable part on the towerso you would have a different mechanism for the booster and starship (but integrated into the same chopsticks
>>16436859this, it needs to be able to land anywhere else anyway, starship catch isn't a priority beyond increasing turnaround of future tanker variants
>>16436803Thanks, I had vaguely assumed 59.5 wet/54 dry
Cancel Artemis
Elon is live!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTQgSFP7n-A
why is this /sfg/ today
>>16436875>scan or regret
>>16436875anon, I...
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/artemis-ii-almost-certainly-will-miss-its-september-2025-launch-date/
>>16436877The streams are crossing.
>>16436881>new borgir
>>16436859>>16436863If the booster doesn't need legs why does starship? Excluding the moon and Mars>starship catch isn't a priority beyond increasing turnaround of future tanker variantsIf it wasn't a priority they would have already launched payloads by flight 4
>>16435980disgusting
>>16436877the intelligence needed to appreciate spaceflight and dreams of conquering space is the same intelligence needed to realize and understand that women need to be replaced with android replacements that can feel real love, capable of automatic gene splicing so they can have healthy children with you despite being robots, completely obsoleting the fleshbags.
>>16436881just went through that like 10 mins ago, stop reading my mind /sfg/
>>16436849Isn't spacex using more or less the same stuff for tiles?
>>16436886moon, Mars, e2e, crossrange landing
>>16436491Good the Leo meme needs to end
>>16436498How would they even manage another Orion test flight? Can falcon heavy or Vulcan get Orion high enough?
>>16436895E2e isn't going to use legs>cross range landingAre talking about military use?Delusional
>>16436858What about like this, its like the tower catch except you're sliding down one side on the back of the ship. Then instead of a foot you have a hook. And it hangs on one point. No tiles risked, and the nose has a lot of structure, this should be above any payload stuff. The only thing I'm concerned about is the ship crumpling where it contacts the tower because it's probably not meant to have things pressing into the side. It would be nice to catch it with the launch tower for re-flying tankers but you might have to settle for catching it with a different tower if you can't make chopsticks that can do both. Maybe this thing would work in modified chopsticks on one side and in an open position.
>>16436633Even for free what is a company going to do with thousands of union workers? The interest on a whole new facility is likely less. Not to mention anyone that could use the isogrid benders already has em now. Maybe Sierra Nevada Corperation.Boeing is going to face a similar problem soon.
>>16436248>Columbia would not have been lost if the upper half of the ET on the side facing the shuttle had been given a coating of this
>>16436849That's insane
>>16436292glass europe, NOWhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuLAVxrtWy0
>>16435787Musk is easily over half, but Gwynne and Mueller are like 15% each
>e2eNever happening, we've been over why MANY times
why i am getting this kind of advertisement on a blue board ?? (im sorry, off topic)
>>16436919>we've been over why MANY timesNta, but Fuck off faggot
>>16436920booba
>>16436919you calling mommy shotwell a liar??
>>16436924Momala is calling her a liar. Just like Moskal, shes a fake and a fraud.
>>16436920You don't use any form of adblock? I can't imagine subjecting myself to fucking advertisements throughout the day. I never consented to be advertised at and I take steps to prevent the unwanted corporate contact entirely.
GAO report : The new report, published Thursday, finds that the Exploration Ground Systems program had several months of schedule margin in its work toward a September 2025 launch date at the beginning of the year. But now, the program has allocated all of that margin to technical issues experienced during work on the rocket's mobile launcher and pad testing."Earlier in 2024, the program was reserving that time for technical issues that may arise during testing of the integrated SLS and Orion vehicle or if weather interferes with planned activities, among other things," the report states. "Officials said it is likely that issues will arise because this is the first time testing many of these systems. Given the lack of margin, if further issues arise during testing or integration, there will likely be delays to the September 2025 Artemis II launch date."An independent review team has completed an assessment of NASA's work on the heat shield, but NASA has not publicly commented on these results or its decision moving forward. In response to questions from Ars this week about a decision on whether to take corrective action, an agency spokesperson said, "The Artemis I heat shield investigation process is still underway, so NASA has not made any decisions yet."
>>16436924shotwell masturbates so hard dreaming getting fucked by musk, meanwhile her husband has to deal with a dead bedroom. its truly tragic really.
I still not understand the refueling architecture. The tanker has stretched tanks all the way to the header tanks up above ? or it is like the whole payload bay is like a second fuel tank .
>>16436933Yes
>>16436933youre an idiot. dont post here again.
>>16436933Yes and yes except that other part
Update on the environmentalists that tried to stall the Starship test. The lawfare is on in full forcehttps://www.chron.com/culture/article/spacex-tceq-permit-19838475.php>The South Texas Environmental Justice Network said in a press release Tuesday that the community was "distraught by the negative impacts of the launch" and is frustrated with the "lack of concern for public safety and health." When Starship launched on Sunday, it happened after Elon Musk's company curiously finessed a last-minute launch license from the Federal Aviation Administration. Launches were previously said to be delayed until November.>Now, those opposed to SpaceX are preparing to gather outside a public meeting the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) is holding in Brownsville on Thursday to review a permit SpaceX is seeking. The organization says it plans to hold "Fuera SpaceX" signs and hand out information about its concerns specifically over SpaceX's proposed permit to discharge deluge water they describe as polluted into a delicate ecosystem.
>>16436924I would love to be inverse birthed by her, but she's a salesman not an engineer and isn't a great authority on what's possible. She thinks we're going to invent ftl and meet aliens
>>16436934what if one of the tankers full of fuel has to do an abort without reaching full orbit ? (like basically flight 5 trajectory) . Could a tanker reenter normally with his main tanks nearly empty and huge 150t of fuel mass at the front ? Or they just dump all the fuel before reentry
>>16436944Maybe
>>16436939calling it now: environmentalists cause indefinite delay of starship tests just by rowing boats into the exclusion zone to protest
>>16436933I'm more interested in what the docking is going to look like, where are the prop transfer ports going to go? How are they going to solidly attach and stay together? HLS is going to need to be able to have things docked to it two ways, both for initial prop transfer and then later for crew transfer.
>>16436939>discharge deluge water they describe as polluted into a delicate ecosystem.Even if the water was actually polluted, this makes no sense. SpaceX was allowed to build and launch there. Flame trenches are a part of that.
>>16436948Eventually, they'll run out of people willing to get arrested and fined.
>>16436949i am still betting for hold arms just like the catch tower. You can see it ? 2 pairs, like little arms , near the "pez dispenser" and the other pair lower. That will stabilize everyting. For the actual transfer... idk .. maybe just use good old pumps (built inside each of every tanker)
>>16436952>contact, initiate leglock
>BRIDENSTINE TO LEAD NASA MARS SAMPLE RETURN STRATEGY REVIEWWE ARE BACKhttps://spacepolicyonline.com/news/bridenstine-to-lead-nasa-mars-sample-return-strategy-review/
>>16436911same energy
>>16436955BIG JIM
Question for (you):Did launching Flight 1 (B7 / S24) was a mistake ? I mean, that Booster spent 2 years from production to launch, i dont even consider him Block 1, more like Block 0.5. It was old... like really old. Many parts dating back to early 2021. Those Raptors were very very very old , they never tested all the 33 raptors at the same time correctly. It was a big gamble that costed the team 7 months of precious time
>>16436955>In June, NASA awarded 10 study contracts and added an 11th earlier this month to submit ideas on a quick-turnaround basis. The industry proposers received $1.5 million fixed-price study contracts.>The Bridenstine-led Mars Sample Return Strategy Review Team established yesterday will examine those options “for a complete mission design, which may be a composite of multiple studied design elements” and report “by the end of 2024.” Other members are:>Greg Robinson, former program director, James Webb Space Telescope>Lisa Pratt, former planetary protection officer, NASA>Steve Battel, president, Battel Engineering; Professor of Practice, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor>Phil Christensen, regents professor, School of Earth and Space Exploration, Arizona State University, Tempe>Eric Evans, director emeritus and fellow, MIT Lincoln Lab>Jack Mustard, professor of Earth, Environmental, and Planetary Science, Brown University>Maria Zuber, E. A. Griswold professor of Geophysics and presidential advisor for science and technology policy, MIT
>>16436960it wasn't.getting flight data, any data, was more valueable than spending more time fucking around and working off of assumptions.
>>16436594keked and so true
>>16436955Please put him back in charge of everything, 2017 Jim era NASA was actually comfy, so much hope
>>16436653>These subsidies exist to directly benefit white sister-fuckers.is that anything like being a baby-dick sucker?
>>16436960it's still always a good reference point, especially if you're flying updated generations of hardware every launch or so. Old raptors or not, still would have fucked the pad either way without the steel plate and deluge
>>16436083>Together, multiple bots build a shared understanding of their environment Isn't that what the robot enemies in Mass Effect did? Sounds risky
>>16436083Martian simulated environment testing would be nice (also zero g testing on a orbiting dragon)
>>16436978swarm intelligence isn't new
>>16436955HE HUNGERS... FOR ROGGS!
>>16436978>Isn't that what Voldemort in Harry Potter did? Sounds risky
>>16436955THIS IS HUGEWE ARE SO BACKLETS GOOOOOOOOOO
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1847024043536404569
>>16435732please protect Elon and keep him safe
>>16436992He's speaking now? nearly missed it
>>16436992Damn Elon's looking good. I'm glad the memes got to him
When is the next Kyplanet video dropping?
>>16436992>tan MAGA hatbased
>>16436997Shut up you sound like you got swirlied in high school
>>16436992the past 5 years have been a wild ride
>>16436783
>>16437009the future's so bright, we'll need more than shades to see it
>>16436992anyone else's stream a bit shit?
>>16436969Takes one to know one
>>16436992He's such a stuttering sperg lmao. It's hard to listen to
>>16437024His audio is fucked
>>16436846oy vey
>>16436985>Martian simulated environment testing would be nicethis, I want to build a big (near) vacuum chamber and be able to get it to "Martian" conditions inside, then I charge companies to test their products in it so as to get their "Mars Certified" stamp from me, also I would love to introduce different species of moss and lichen and other biota into it and see if anything eventually can survive
>>16437028>>>/pol/
>>16437030that's a nice business idea
>>16437043thanks, nobody steal it pls
>>16436992they shut it down
Rememeber when the space industry was laughing at SpaceX for putting landing legs on a booster? How far weve come.
>>16437027>>16437047I was listening to the shitty spaces from his phone and didnt even know there was a video stream
How often should we check on Europa Clipper, /sfg/?
>>16437064About once a minute
>>16437027That's just how he sounds
>>16437014The future's so bright, we won't need eyes to see
eager space: based or cringe?
>>16435825>neither Apollo 13 nor The Right Stuff are listed as optionsI hate plebs so much.
>>16435861the plot of the Martian but instead of sending a rescue mission it's about Mark Watney making the thousand mile trip halfway across Mars to the SpaceX base
>>16436373based
If you are a /sfg/got, you MUST voot for Drumpf this election.
>>16437076eager larper
>>16437087so cumala will ban spacefaring and civilization? seems a bit extreme?
>>16437090Mosk said so, so it must be truth
>>16436627I'm glad he's prioritizing the important things
>>16437089I haven't yet heard him say anything which is wrong. He probably posts here.
Just in time to save the thread
Repent sinners
>>16437084Handmer did a short story version of the Martian where it's taking place in a Starship context. As I recall Watney gets left behind accidentally and is making his way through a vast automated industrial site with starships coming and going, overwhelmed with supplies but with no easy way to tell which ship contains food and which contains concentrated nitric acid or whatever. It was cool.
>>16435732>When Trump winsHonestly might see some big spending increases in space spending, the space force and commercial space are going to his legacies moving forward and a manned landing in the 28 launch window isn't impossible
>>16437096Praise the Omnissiah
>>16437087Elon musk needs me?! OK. I'll do it. I'm going to bat for you Elon.
>>16437096why as this painting made? didthe creator intend it ironically or unironically?
>>16436567new hoi iv ideology
>>16437101https://www.conorwalton.com/index.htmlhonestly no idea
>>16437090>so cumala will ban spacefaring and civilization?not exactly but she will give all the money that would have gone towards it to blacks as ""reparations""
>>16436253>86 kmisn't that kinda high still? they should be much closer to 70km if they want real deceleration
>>16437105lmao
>>16437106they should call it niggerations lol :D
>>16437107They want to change orbit inclination with as little energy loss as possible.
>>16437097I would actually pay to see this (and it could star Ben Affleck, ha get it, not Matt Damon but instead... forget it)
>>16437109ironic or unironic?
>>16437106And the FAA under that admin would continue the intentional slowdown of Starship testing we've seen over the last few years, and this year specifically. I want that to stop, Trump wants SpaceX to succeed so he can brag about it, our interests are aligned on this issue.
>>16436919flights 4 and 5 were e2e tho
>>16437105kino
I don't understand why kemala presidency has anything to do with how retarded and slow FAA is? They'll be retarded and slow either way.
should the US just declare that these are the borders of THE UNITED STATES OF MARS?
>>16437114still no idea. Looks he's actually a really decent artist though, the complete ambiguity is nice for once
>>16437120It's an executive branch organization. The president is responsible for it.
>>16437122No, I want the whole thing.
>>16437120>why do black women hate progress and the glories of space
>>16436815Depending on how much mass they have to add to make the tiles safe enough, which seems to be slowly creeping up. IIRC they turned away from methane sweating due to added complexity and mass from plumbing.
>>16437122this could be their flag
>>16437118Frogs
>>16437128>space>aint nobody got no time fo that shit
>>16437130No it's this
>>16437095bau bau
>>16437127>reports are coming in that Chancellor Musk has annexed New Sudetenland and SpaceX tanks are crossing into the Polish territories...
>>16437135that's reserved for the japanese colony
>>16437118>>16437132one of us?
>>16437142/sfg/ has been proposing this for a while in one form or another
>>16437142Total FAA Death?
>>16437142Anyone dreaming of replacing the FAA with OST needs to explain how launch/re-entry air traffic interactions are going to workDesignated launch/re-entry corridors are the only way, but KSC's TFRs dramatically impact MCO and cannot be permanent
>>16437135Wrong, it's a sphere. You mount it on a pole
>>16437122>your hab is on the north side of the Valles Marineris>match with a hot chick on tinder>she lives on the south side of the Valles Marineris
>>16436769There seems to be quite a bit of consistency in the types of anons found in /sfg/. They usually have many of the same overlaps in interests of things outside of the thread.
does anyone know if Kennedy had consulted with anyone before choosing to go to the moon, or did he just made an arbitrary choice to one up the commies and sort the requirements after the fact?
>>16437160You could have just done a web searchhttps://www.nasa.gov/history/the-decision-to-go-to-the-moon/
>>16437151>the agency SHALL issue the TFR(s)>the agency SHALL issue the NOTAM(s)>the agency SHALL do so within 72hrsIt's that easy
>>16437160he probably got an oooh! out of Marilyn by joking about it so then he bounced the idea off his brother Bobby and then maybe asked Buckminster Fuller if it was possible
>>16436263oh boy, more boosters dropped on chinese villagers>>16436384this should be helpfulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSM6fBdmusohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=687HCq5cXvc>>16437154stupid frogposter
>>16437151When we get to the flight rates which necessitate permanently restricted airspace space flight operations should be reliable enough that they don't need Xbox huge flight corridors.
just don't fly over a launch tower retard
>>16437194This, go around asshole
>>16437194>>16437202yeah, just make the airspace from 0 to 100k ft for 10km around any launch tower off limits, assholes
>>16437209>>16437194>>16437202how about just employ air traffic controllers who tell planes to get out the way when a rocket is lifting off like they would at a runway
>>16437194>window pics of a starship taking off as you fly past Kino
gotta ask, how long until some nut in a Cessna crashes it into a fully fueled Starship on the pad at like t - 10 minutes because he's mad about the beetles?
>>16437217Like an environmentalist has enough money for a plane
>>16437217could be 2 more weeks?
>>16437215ummm that sounds like extra work and responsibility for them, you're gonna have to talk to their union about that
>>16435945>no you can't send anything with potential microbes to Mars before we got a chance to analyze Mars microbes>no we have no plan to actually analyze Mars microbes with a dedicated mission at any pointLiteral comedy routine.
>>16435945There is no life on Mars. There never was any life on Mars. The only life that will ever be on Mars is the life humans send there.
>>16436722Tack on extra $150 million in infrastructure costs. The taxpayer still comes out ahead.
>>16437217He'd never make it past the SpaceX flak cannons.
>>16437086damn that looks good
>>16437234SPACEX NEEDS PATRIOT BATTERIES RIGHT NOW MR PRESIDENT!
>>16437217this why E.R. Musk needs to build secret towers in Hokkaido.
>>16437241We cannot allow, a star-ship gap!
>>16437228There is life on Mars, you've seen it down on Viking
>>16437245>add water and heat to perchlorates>they decay into oxygen >cook the rest of the perchlorates off and add water again>no oxygenmust be bugs!
>>16436203This is a thinly veiled proposal to cancel Artemis outright and replace it with robot landers.
>>16437247perchlorates is a conspiracy. There is no evidence for perchlorates on Mars.
>>16437151>needs to explain how launch/re-entry air traffic interactions are going to workBetter than those interactions happening every 2 months
>>16437122>mars space port is in boca chica, New Texas, USM
>>16437087Not asking about politics here, just /sfg/ users and what it's like to be themIs there anyone who regulars here that is being tested by elon's transformation? I just wanted to ask if you were doing ok. Also designating a no bully zone around any replies.
Anyone able to find the original that isn't a literal phone screen recording?
>>16437259>>Is there anyone who regulars here that is being tested by elon's transformation?I predicted his embrace of the Republican party years ago, extrapolated from the realization that SpaceX is building hardware which can launch massive strategic defense constellations. The only way to secure such contracts is with a Republican president in the White House. Democrats have never cared for strategic defense.
>>16437263is that you brilliant pebbles poster
I hope musk doesn’t join the office for government efficiency or whatever. He already wastes too much time on Twitter.I’m sure he could do good things as he did with twitter but space is more important.We can’t miss out on becoming a space ferrying civilization because Elon got sucked into Washington’s distopia.
>>16437265of course
>>16437266But other technologies are wrapped in red tape screaming for help
>>16437266If he can shit directly into the government maybe he'll feel less temptation to shit onto twitter.
>>16437266>I hope Elon doesn't do anything to further his goals outside of a narrow range of things that I approve of. Anything that doesn't jerk off my dopamine is a waste of time and I wish he'd be smart enough to understand that
>>16437277yeah but if we're being real, Tesla has outlasted its usefulness and should probably be cut loose at this point. Starlink has secured SpaceX's cash flow so the Tesla scheme (raising money though absurd P/E) is no longer needed, and besides, operating Tesla is the most likely Musk endeavor to get him into serious legal trouble.
>>16437285How did a dumbass /g/ post get here?
https://x.com/culpable_mink/status/1847025233280282930Totally forgot Shelby once threatened Jim Bridenstine over his proposal to launch Orion on Falcon Heavy.
>>16437285>Never mind that Tesla's motors, powerpacks, metallurgy, and assembly line organization have been vital to the Starship program, they're a distraction that's outlasted its usefulnessMy guy, just how retarded are you trying to appear here? Elon's goals are in direct opposition to what the statist degrowthers want to do with this planet. There was always going to be lawfare from the state.
>>16437294Have you even seen Tesla's P/E? Making money by pumping absurd levels of hype for future product into investors won't work forever and Elon is better off quitting that scheme while he's ahead.
>>16437295Forcing spaceX to do plumbing for liquid hydrogen is almost as bad as just asking them to do a methalox third stage
when is peak viewing of this gay comet? i waited 45min after sunset, clear sky, cant see shit
>>16437275Kek>>16437273You have to pick battles and he has already shown to be exceptional on this extremely important battle.>>16437277Who are you quoting?
>>16437304skill issue
>>16437304There is no comet
>>16437304
>>16437298P/E is price to earnings ratio. Hype doesn't increase earnings and it just raises the price when people buy. You're just buzzwording. Also people buy tesla stock because they are growing and have low market share, so there's no ceiling in the way. They also deal in intersecting technologies that branch out into other revenue streams so all the eggs aren't in the car basket. Solar power, batteries, autonomous driving/AI, superchargers, semi, vehicle insurance, heat pumps, robots. Tesla batteries, electric motors, and interior design goes into spacex spacecraft, that's just what I know about. Data captured by cars and robots improves AI, and AI improves cars and robots. Elon wouldn't have been able to walk in and hostile take over twitter without tesla software engineers. And you're like "yeah he should throw away some chess pieces" lmao.
>>16437310>>P/E is price to earnings ratio. Hype doesn't increase earnings and it just raises the price when people buy.That's the point retard. Tesla's P/E is astronomical, investors have been pumped up with so much hype that Tesla cannot possibly ever accomplish what investors expect of them. Eventually the "FSD in two more weeks" shit isn't going to work on investors anymore. Elon should get out now and let it collapse under some other chump's watch.
what's next for failx now that they had the shitship heatshield fail AGAIN and are meant to be landing humans on the moon THIS YEAR but failed.
>>16437323You don't need a heatshield to land people on the moon
>moon>heatshield
>>16437322If it's overpriced short sell it and we'll continue our conversation from your cardboard box. Also a company's stock price correcting is not the end of the company if they have more revenue than expenditures.
First HLS landing is an unmanned tech demo. How do (you) ensure it doesn't tip over?
>>16437273imagine if he unlocked nuclear. its vital for Mars misisons of any kind, let alone a city of a million people. its even vital for the moon. Not to mention the nuclear propulsion you could build for an interplanetary ferry. An Interplanetary Transport System, if you will.
Eager jumpscare
>>16437337Same way I do it in KSP: huge RCS thrusters on top
>>16437353don't forget to turn the dampers on the landing legs up!
>>16436955Just when you think it’s as over as it will ever be… a “we are so back” rises
The hexaweb
>>16437337Same way Larch Bellamy did: I'll just let the gyros handle it.
>>16437262This sort of shit has become a global pandemic. You have the file on your phone, just post the file!! No need to screenshot!!
My collection grows
>>16437385Faglet, everyone knows real men collect mementos for every launch instead of the cheap plastic shit they sell you online.
>>16437285>Tesla has outlasted its usefulness and should probably be cut loose at this point.It probably already has in spirit. That last tesla presentation had very little Elon in it, it seemed. It was all show with no substance
damn Boeing got toldhttps://futurism.com/the-byte/nasa-abandons-starliner-upcoming-missions
Now that the dust has settled, why shouldn't Elon put Starlink as a mass simulator for flight 6? What's the estimated metric tonnage to LEO currently anyway? If they can do 400+ sats a mission than they can fill their 12k shell in like 12 launches
>>16437391I hate popsci headlines
>>16437396>400+ sats a missionThat was last-gen Starlink, the ones intended to launch on Starship are bigger.
>>16437387I have pubes from every girl i fucked
>>16436992I was there. Would’ve asked him something sfg approved but too many normalfags with the worst possible questions ahead. Trying to get a ticket for tomorrow.
>>16437400I said every launch not every slut youve encountered. You dont collect things for every shit you take so why this? Do manwhores really?
Dogs will not be allowed on Mars. Mars will be a cat planet.
>>16435732The single greatest act of regulatory capture in US history. It'll literally be his job to restructure regulatory agencies in his own favor.
>>16437405I collect rocks too
yep, im thinking she's hot
>>16437410Both dogs and cats suck. I prefer parrots, though it's a shame that most birds are unable to swallow in a zero-g environment, so they would have to be hand-fed all the time before getting there.
>>16437427Yep, Im thinking youre a coal burner
>elon unironically thinks supporting trump will get him to mars quicker
>>16437445Trump's ego is fueled by big flashy American space achievements. Kamala's handlers want to actively delay everything Elon does.Do the math, retard.
>>16437452Well fuck you too then
>>16437402Based, hope you get to ask your question.
NASA is so fucked lmao
>>16437402Ask him why he didn't use liquid flourine as an oxidizer for Starship.
>>16437457Why
>>16437458Nigga what
>>16437402Just ask here, I'm convinced he lurks. As for getting an answer just wait for a sign.
>>16437468Youre a pest.
>>16437463minmaxing the rocket equation by having the rocket itself be the fuel for the oxidizer
>>16437445It willAnd it's obvious
>>16437410
https://x.com/farzyness/status/1847051545428299822
>>16437410Cats will be livestock on the Haitian sector
>>16437478elon needs me?
>>16437470the fabled caseless booster
>>16437480You're Elon's strongest soldier
Guys felon husk said you need to go vote for drumpf because muh future of da world and kamabla will doom us to never go to mars eventhoughhowever nothing ever happens
Elon out there doing everything and anything barely short of straight up buying Pennsylvanians votes kek
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1847058080841744540
>>16437485You haven't been paying attention for the last few years I'd you think nothing has happened
>>16437470recyclable rockets
/sfg/ is kill
>>16437487
>>16437493source?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1847116693094445377
>>16437497After the FAA receives its whipping the FCC is next.
>>16437478Many young people asking interesting questions
>>16437480make sure you spill your spaghetti telling him all about /sfg/
Pisslocks will be accepted tech in our lifetimes.
>>16436948People would get fined to hell and you can't use charity funds to pay them off.
>>16437478>its possible that a handful of votes the election>decides the fate of civilization
>>16437427Bet she has a hairy pussy!
>>16437505kek
>>16437505>>16437514
>>16437513Oh yes, very much so ;)
>>16437516Also a cute ring of hair around her slightly gaping pink anus? :0
>>16437519HAHA
These got deleted btw
https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1847058141269446939
>>16437528https://www.johnkrausphotos.com/Galleries/Launches/Starship-Flight-Test-5
>>16437529
>>16437530
>>16437526Ok now THIS is shitposting
>>16437531
>>16437533
>>16437526Honestly kinda based
>>16437458kek imagine his autism derailing his rally
>>16437565Someone ask him about space elevators!
Has Melon ever played KSP? He seems to have a really trash taste in video games.
>>16437571Why would Fantano ever play KSP? Hes not a space guy
>>16437573Who?
>>16437574>he doesnt know
>>16437375>Larch BellamyHe didn't land do good
>>16437571I feel like he would feel constrained by KSP. He wouldn't like autistic games where you're forced to obey strict rules and being railroaded into doing something a certain way (see also: Factorio)
>>16437571If he really wants people to start liking space, maybe he could invest a tiny bit of his vast fortune into making an AAA, ultra-realistic spaceflight video game that could run in more than 2 frames per second, that features real-sized astronauts instead of those green bean things you all call kerbals. is that too much to ask for? or is starship getting to sedna and back more likely to happen?
>>16437581After reading Isaacson's book I'm convinced he would call the developer and yell at them like they were engineers at a Starship development meeting and they they should return to 1st principles before deciding if something can or can't be done in the game.
>>16437585So, updated Orbiter?
>>16437581Speaking of Factorio, who else is calling in sick next week?
>>16437387someone sounds mad that they failed to collect all the patches thus far :)
>>16437259>tested by elon's transformationMusk hasnt changed much. Hes been mixed libertarian for the past 20+ years, anti-regulation, anti-big gov, pro-America, etc. Elon's stayed the same. Whats changed is the shift of the political parties who are now changing their positions. Back 20 years ago, Rs were in favor of censorship and war. Now its the Ds in favor of heavy mass censorship and pro-war party. Abuse of federal agency to target political enemies from the D are corruption of politics as well.
>>16437581>>16437587That's an interesting observation about the difference between engineers and leaders.
>>16437445We've been telling you this for 4 years
>>16437142ABSOLUTE FAA DEATH>>16437266If he can even cut down 1% of the gov jobs, 1% of the regulations, its a good thing. I feel like the byzantine is rooted too firmly and is unable to be rooted out
>>16437391>futurismwoke garbage tabloid
>>16437445>he's still in denial of the reality of political lawfare against spacex/musk over the last 4 years
>>16437142Holy shit, no one ever complain about Elon's twitter whining ever again.>>16437151literally just tell airlines to fly at their own risk? enough with the nanny state
>>16435928>I wonder why he thought they had such a low chanceBecause they've landed hundreds of Falcon 9's now and know the early margins?
Could a nuclear thermal upper stage (instead of ICPS) on an expendable FH send an Apollo CSM + Lander to TLI in a single launch?
>>16436241Mass.Anemic hydrogen will always be anemic hydrogen even if you bring the biggest fucking SRBs in the world to shake you to jelly.
>>16437623early margins?
>>16437637Margins for success early in the program. Still on my first cup of coffee but didn't think I'd have to be that specific for people to understand.
>>16437625With an ISP of ~800 seconds on a ~20 ton second stage (basically the same as DCSS) and an 80% propellant mass fraction, with an Apollo Command and Service Module and Apollo Lunar Module as payload, the nuclear upper stage could apply a Delta-V of 2.963 km/s. This is slightly short of the 3.12 km/s needed for a trans-lunar injection burn from Low Earth Orbit, but increasing the gross mass of the nuclear stage to 25,000 kilograms would give 3.478 km/s of Delta-V, which would be more than sufficient and still within the stated gross mass lifting capabilities of the Falcon Heavy.
>>16437643arigato, ChatGPT-sama
>>16437643Would you even need the falcon second stage? As i understand it the MECO velocity and altitude is very high if in fully expendable config (pretty much in orbit already), just make the nuclear upper stage bigger
>>16437646Without an upper stage, Falcon Heavy would still be very short of the Delta-V needed to put the rest of the payload in orbit, and that would necessitate a much larger nuclear upper stage than a piddly 20,000 kilogram one, and you'd need a lot more engines to make up for the gravity losses.
>>16437639I still don't understand your pointyou think musk thought they would have the same probabilities as during F9 landing attempts and did not reach the conclusion based on the actual engineering?a lot what they learned is transferable, that is why I didn't understand your point (still not really sure desu)
>>16437486Honestly if Trump wins the election thanks to PA going his way by a small margin the seethe directed at Elon will be ridiculous.
>>16437487>Musk quoting DisneyCareful, the timelines are merging
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1847091614780740040
>>16437682it already is, will be interesting to see how it can ramp up from hereI think what will get people really mad is if he starts cutting jobs from bureucracies
>>16437687HE WAS A WEEK LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTEE!!!!!!!!!!!!FELON HUSK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>16437687SEVEN days late! see what an unacceptable fraud, hopefully felon will be jailed soon for his scams
>>16437689>>16437682I mean that is when you really get the unhinged hate where a person dedicates their free time to it (which they will have a lot of because they are unemployed)
>>16437687Pretty much everything from the starship update 6 months ago is exactly as he estimated, successful booster catch, orbital refuelling by mid 2025 etc
>>16437694>orbital refuelling by mid 2025unlikely but possible
>>16437712assuming no more massive licensing delays I think 2025 orbital refueling is a lock
>>16437651>I still don't understand your pointWell, that's a you problem.
>>16437571yeah he's mentioned it a few timesi think he also replied to their account when they showed off a WIP model for a nuclear engine they were making for KSP2(RIP)
>>16437685disney looking remarkably like hitler there
>>16437488No I haven't been paying attention (other than to spaceflight).There have been 0(zero) negative impacts on me thus far because of this. Politics is fake and gay.
>>16437628was it worth the dead astronauts? foam strikes werent happening until after the paint was removed?
>>16436241>NASAwe have laborynthian reviews ontop of reviews ontop of reviews and won't do anything unless its tested 10x and safe>Also NASARemove the paint and expose the insulation foam to hypersonic winds! WHAT COULD GO WRONG !!!1!! Tee-Hee!!!!
>>16437716Its going to be tough for them to get 2 starships in orbit at the same time to dock and do what is only a demo, but using full size vehicles.A true refueling mission is much more than can be achieved in 2025, even by SpaceX. They simply must have 4+ operational towers, and reusable vehicles, before they can get a useful ship refueled to the point worthy to actually depart for the Moon of Mars.If Musk gets his way, construction crews have their work cut out for them. Building more towers, with the complete tanks farms, mechazilla parts, flame trenches, etc is simply a construction marathon. Not to mention the environmental lawsuit nightmare to come.I'm optimistic, but 2025 might only see one empty ship park next to another empty ship, and it wont be more than a squirt of my sperm. Not "refueling".
>>16437778would be a good test of the heat shield if they fill the ship up a little and burn to an eccentric orbit with perigee in the atmopshere
>>16437778what do you think "refueling" entails that makes it need 4 operational towers?
>>16437779They cant even get the heat shield to survive a minimal orbital reentry, why would they need to test with even more velocity?That would be a good test for the Orion capsule, not Starship.
>>16437783Because they have to catch both the boosters, and ships. They will need at least 4 towers, 2 in TX and 2 more in FL. And, that is just for Artemis...
>>16437774The shuttle stack was a cursed vehicle with or without paint.
>>16437778even a partial refuel of only 1 tanker to a ship counts imho, another milestone down that crabs claim is impossible
>>16437774There'd still be risk of ice strikes, its inherent in the design of having your reentry surface right next to a yuuge cryogenic tank
>>16437789they can catch the booster and ship with the same tower and they can launch using one tower, its just going to take more time and more launches due to propellant venting
>>16437788but it does survive orbital re-entry? what the fuck are you talking about the only section that has had some problems is a hinge where the gas flow gets sped up due to restricted flowits a special case which is already solved for Block 2 and even then, it wasn't a crippling problem for the ship on flight 5
>>16437788this is for the future. surely they want to figurre out the heatshield at some point right?
>>16437791Checking a box doesn't mean we are sending multiple ships to Mars in the next window.I expect a refuel level appropriate for a Mars journey and landing will fully need 10 tankers worth of fuel, and zero boil off systems in place. Its ridiculously ambitions to think its going to hit those goals on time. They will, but late.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/biden-administration-curtails-controls-on-some-space-related-exports/>“They’re easing restrictions on some of the less sensitive space-related technologies and on spacecraft-related items going to our closest allies, like Australia, Canada, and the UK," the senior Commerce official said. "These changes will offer relief to US companies and they’ll increase innovation without comprising the critical technologies that keep our nation safe."the Australian starship base takes another step towards reality
>>16437792the engineers thought of this and the ET got very little ice thanks to the insulation. try to spot any ice in a video and you will struggle. as far as I know all the tile damage was caused by foam, which peeled off because it was exposed to supersonic air due to retarded paint haters.
How would you handle the tile problem?
>>16437815just make them not ablate, simple as
>>16437815there is already normalization of deviance going on with the flap hinge burnthrough being seen as 'safe enough to survive'. this will inevitably kill a crew unless elon goes deomon mode on it.
>>16436923>>16436920I checked her twitter. That bitch is a mudshark and her face is photoshopped in the ads. You're welcome.
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1847260036315152547
>>16437815hot swappable aeroshell
https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1847101348375859239
>>16437815Stoke Space does not have this problem
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1847144424339317049posted 7h ago so I guess 3h until Everyday Astronaut video comes out
>>16437803>UKdon't make me post it
>>16437830
>>16437833
>>16437834
>>16436978>appeal to fictionYou should be ashamed
>>16437835>The chine is still intact in this shot! (Assuming that The one in question is not hidden on the other side)>Erryday: We have it popping off >What do you think caused it? The relight and whole lot of rocket fuel in that exact spot?>Erryday:Nah just aero forces. The underlying COPV appeared to be fine. Just cosmetic
>>16437829apples and oranges
>>16437090No, she'll just use the government to stop any meaningful progress.
>>16436582the worse takeaway: people think the fantasy movie Interstellar is as realistic as Gravity
>>16437120That's just you being retarded and slow. The head of the agency is appointed by the president. When the administration is unfriendly to an organization the agencies respond accordingly.
>>16436584accurate depiction of isogrid manufacturing
>>16437819That's why they're moving the flaps back. They're trying to eliminate burn-through, not accept it.
>>16437815reserving judgement on tile issues until they actually drag one out of the ocean for inspection. It's hard to tell how much of the visible ablation is from around pre designated tileless points. Even if you're replacing the tiles every few flights they have the infrastructure in place to automate most of that process
>>16437819>this will inevitably kill a crew unless elon goes deomon mode on it.Starship will never be crew rated. Its a cargo carrier and that's all it needs to be
would be interesting to see which way the spacex team are voting. i would guess shotwell is voting repub because she wants to divorce her husband and be married to elon so bad, dan from the starship broadcast is definitely repub. what about tice and jessie? i think jessie is a lifelong dem.
>>16437852HLS
>>16437862HLS never has to reenter so it doesn't count
>>16437853abolish the 19th amendment
>>16437118i love surrealist LMs
>>16437160he didn't invent it that's for sure. there had been a lot of talks before that happened as i remember reading aboot it. Still the best speech delivery ever if you ask me. love it.>because it is haahd....
>>16437852>Starship will never be crew rateda bold claim.
>>16437877>"we choose to go to the moon, and do the other things"ruined it for me. he should have not mentioned all the other bullshit, it should have been just about the moon. >"we choose to go to the moon, not because it is easy, but because it is hard!"
>>16437852>crew ratedBy who? NASA? Who gives a fuck. If Richard Branson can fly people on his death trap to nowhere then Starship should be a breeze
>>16437865Human-rated implies you put people on it.HLS will be human-rated, HLS is Starship.Starship will be human rated, your premise was false. Recant.
>>16437890based, SpaceX will now make the Dollar the solar system reserve currency
I am looking for an infographics or page that would should maximum payloads of available launch systems to locations beyond Earth. I only found those that show LEO or GEO. Anyone?
>>16437890some hack graphic designer is getting paid six figs right now for this slop
haven't seen this posted here yet. Sen's cameras on ISS but actually in 4k unlike on X. stream cuts out a lot.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXb9daWjmII
>>16437890>uhhh actually the economy is great and that's why Elon can launch rockets! make sure you vote for the lady that makes the economy so great!
Tower 2 cable chain and two even bigger propellant subcoolers for the tank farm being delivered to the launch site.Also, convoys of tanker trucks. Big things happening at Starbase, flight 6 soon?
>>16437510https://x.com/america/status/1847033231985832039
>>16437914those are victorian era diving bells.
>>16437914the plan would be nice to know
>>16437914It means there's no flight soon and they can continue with starbase development
>>16437897shocked me as a child finding out that we dont have live views of the gas giants from space. the stream would be comfy and there would always be a /pol/ schizo thread about the latest MEGA STORM forming on jupiter
>>164379142 weeks
>>16437901Asking someone about their view on the economy is in large part measuring if they like the party of the president.You'd think the US is in recession or stagnating if you just listened to 4chong talk.>actually that's not real growth but when Mr. Trump was in office it totally was!zzz
>>16437917RGV is the best source of speculation and educated guesses with the flyover photo review. Those niggers need to do a flyover every fucking day.
>>16437830https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpxB1S-ohEU>Starship Launch and Booster Catch Super Cut #ift5
>>16437897What's the scientific value of using fisheye lenses in space?
>>16437921The quick work on the existing OLM and chopsticks, along with the massive amount of propellant refilling, with urgency, suggests otherwise. They want all 5 allowed launches this year, from Boca. They will roll out the next booster as soon as possible and start testing.
>>16437510People can lose few counties/state with just few thousand votes.
>>16437901They're running on the argument that SpaceX has launched, Elon is successful because of woke politics of California. Its an insane view to have, that defies all that is reality, but when you're bought into the cult, you have to reframe what is happening in the reality to your cult doctrine.
>>16437925fascinating graph, thank you
>>16437925so from 2017, 3/4 lines go up until covid fucked everything, and then post 2021 4/4 lines go down even further lmao
>>16437930fool people into thinking the earth is round.
>>16437933LOL, see you in 5 months.
>>16437510This has to be the single least flattering pic of Elon to ever exist.
>>16437945NO, chud.
>>16437914https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1847281331757027519
>>16437954the gold hat is bad taste but otherwise whats wrong?
>>16437960Have you looked at his face?
>>16437961he always looks like that
>>16437961
>>16437955lines not go up now
>>16437941The Economist is a Rothschild rag, global California is their desired goal
>>16437964The absolute state of the world today.
>>16437259>Also designating a no bully zone around any replies.Built for Big Bully Comments
>>16437285Just wanted to make sure you know how dumb this post is
>>16437400t. serial killer
>>16437954
>>16437497>30,000 Starlink satellitesWE GAAN
>>16437984why was he getting hosed? humiliation ritual?
>>16437890Post the article or buy an ad
>>16438009It was to clean off the salt water before he sat on the fancy boat furniture.
>>16438012i dont beleive you.
>>16437789They can launch one full stack and then the other. It requires only one tower. Just put the first Starship in orbit.
>>16437970>Portland
>>16437815transpiration
>>16437830>the photographers are the real heroesI am back to hating this numale with my whole heart
>>16438017Transpiration cooling test, you weren't supposed to know
>>16437984The book talks about this picture. He really didn't want to be there and couldn't enjoy himself as the Twitter buyout was looming and had begun to realize what he was getting himself into and feeling he had been mislead by the board of directors. SpaceX and Tesla were made in his image and could function in his absence, Twitter acquisition on the otherhand was like the Norman conquest in many ways and would take up a lot of time afterward. Pivoting back to Starship development and looking a lot less blubbery is probably not a coincidence.
>>16438017It's pretty standard if you've ever been on a nice yacht. Salt has caused spaceprobes to fail.
>>16437925>unfortunately I have prepared a graphic to distract you from runaway inflation
>>16437984That one's still not as bad.
So now that musk is such an open partisan and target, what does he do when dems win in future?
>>16437966"What's the deal with Blue Origin?"
STAGE>>16438052>>16438052>>16438052
>>16438053Belay that order and put this man in the brig!
>>16438053>page 8
>>16438053Activate FTS on yourself
>>16438037it did take a while and he did have to cut a lot of heads to remake it in his imagebut I think its done now and can function independently to some extent like his other companies
>>16438043yeah but he's not going to be sitting on a spaceprobe
>>16438053>page 8>184/250 images
>>16438064that's what you think
>>16438048continue doing what he has done just with increased lawfare
>>16437984Why do people expect a 50 something year old bozo doing recreational stuff to look good in shirtless paparazzi shots? Is it because humans are just so used to staged and preplanned images of people on vacation on social media and the regular media? And it's easy to make anyone look retarded when you take 500 photos and get to choose which ones you release. This is not something unique to Musk of course. People come up with weird standards for celebrities
>>16437984Mr. Bezos is helping me find my rocket
>>16438077it works both ways>>16438064He was a guest on that boat, having this attitude on a probe would get you ejected out the airlock.
>>16437815Kys redditnigger
>>16438053Exhausting
>>16438053You are such a nigger newfag
What do we think of each of these slides from the last update? really interestinghttps://www.humanmars.net/2024/04/spacex-starship-update-2024.html#more
>>16438115Theres no new info. What is there to think about?
Everyone, dont forget to go report the early stage thread for spamming/flooding so janny kills it
>>16438120never really looked at it in detail before, a V3 ship going from 52m tall to potentially almost 70m is a huge difference though
>>16438115>200+ tons to LEO in reusable configuration Delusional until proven otherwise. I have no reason to blindly trust such a figure without real payload being put up.
Everyones favorite space CEO/leadership (cannot be Elon as he would win by default)?
>>16438115Was lunar superheavy always there in the background?
>>16437928kinomatografie.
>>16438115ITS Europa chads...
>>16438130Tom Mueller
>>16438125Will they have to change the launch towers to handle the stretch a la SLS or was it baked in from the start
>>16437922Is there a single good reason we're not constantly sending livestreaming probes into whatever parts of the solar system we're interested in
>>16438140nasa can't figure out how to build even a simple probe for less than 800 million dollars
>>16438126Mage the rogget taller :DDDDDMoar bayloadz :DDD
>>16438134radiationbros...
>>16438130Max Haot
>>16438132I don't understand this. Will there ever be a lunar star ship that returns to earth?
Garrett Reisman has been seething at Trump on twitter. Sad to see
>>16438165Loaded with explosives maybe
>>16438165Maybe, it does require a lunar orbit refueling for hls to get back to earth orbit but it's doable, you can even get the tanker back, landing on earth is a no go however.
>>16438167gay
>>16438169nasa should contract spacex to build a space tracking and comms layer just for them to replace TDRS.call it EDS :^)
>>16437930if your lenses aren't shitty fisheyes the NOAA and NRO kill you in your sleep for spying
>>16438134What about Eris though?
>>16438211>>16438211>>16438211>>16438211staging
>>16438213this one is legitimate
>>16438213Page 10, good job anon
>>16438213baste
>>16438216>>16438218>>16438219really struggle to see why so many have that difficulty waiting for page 10 to stage.is it just newfaggotry because of the ebin launch recently or genuine malice from someone obsessed?
>>16438232They just want their own thread.
>>16437880>do the other thingsi always understood that to mean all the other things needed to get to the moon and have space stations and stuff, but i suppose they meant the socialist programs for niggers.>>16437890im ok with this
>>16437914thats a lot of wheels.
>>16437928ok, this could be the vid ive been looking forcaptcha; 8VGOO
>>16437969CA wishes it could be Canada. CA isn't even trying compared to us.
>>16438300>i always understood that to mean all the other things needed to get to the moonhe was talking about bullshit social programs during the same speech. sad.
>>16438344suuuush dont ruin it lol
>>16438232Hitting the image limit is a legitimate reason to stage before getting to page 10, any other reason is probably just /pol/ or tourist fagetry.
>>16437335The market can remain irrational longer than I can remain solvent. I'm not stupid or rich enough to short Tesla, but that doesn't mean Tesla isn't overpriced.
>>16438494wrong, hitting the image limit is not a legitimate reason to stage
>>16438601This is an image board retard
>>16437585kerbals are sovlfvl
>>16437819Re-entry is a non issue, anyone going to space on Starship doesn't want to come back to Earth.
>>16438685faggot
>>16437815>rebbit says it's a problem so it must be true
>>16437890>>16438011I think it's this one. Online title is different though:https://archive.md/gObt6There's also this one about Starlink:https://archive.md/BwTux
>>16438874And this one singing the praises of starship vs oldspacehttps://archive.md/rHqog
>>16437585>real-sized astronauts instead of those green bean things you all call kerbalsKerbals are more realistic for space travel. Humans will have to be Kerbalized in order to truly be at home in space.
>>16437819>there is already normalization of deviance going on with the flap hinge burnthrough being seen as 'safe enough to survive'I don't see it that way. No one is planning to leave it like that. They're just marvelling that a spaceship survived any degree of burnthrough.
>>16437815Permanent magnets in key locations to keep the plasma away.
>>16437682people will try to assassinate him
>>16437884"Human rated" refers to launch and landing. HLS will take on crew in orbit. Don't be a little word weasel shit about it.But I still think it will get crew rated eventually after it has had enough launches to be considered reliable enough.
>>16438300
>>16438876Pretty damning towards SLS
