Starship launches to become a weekly event thanks to Musk's partnership with Trump edition Next launch in 5 daysprevious >>16470821
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Probability of SLS cancellation?
>>1647282750/50, for real this time
It's just getting started.>>1647282750/50, either it happens or it doesn't.
man, the SLS discord is not taking the news well lmao
>>16472834Poast
Elon Won
>>16472834please screenshot
>>16472834I dont care about trannies seething
>>16472827I think SLS will get the axe. Orion and EUS will be kept around and reintegrated into Falcon Heavy. It's a behemoth of a capsule, but a useful one nonetheless and has gone around the moon successfully at least once. It does have heatshield issues, but those can be solved at a cost far lower than $4Bn/launch for SLS Block 1 with a $2Bn launch tower.Also, I think SpaceX will inevitably turn Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy over to the US government to manage and operate, while it owns Starship and all successor architectures. This gives USG a dissimilar redundancy for its own flights and missions, independent of Starship, and SpaceX will become another supporting contractor to USG as basically glorified tech support for whenever something goes wrong with an upper or core stage. Even if Starship is flying routinely to Moon and Mars, Falcon 9 and Heavy are still way too godly to shelf, considering there's no equivalent flight hardware across the continental US that can match operational reliability AND flight capability.
>>16472831Holy shit is that graph accurate? What final payload for Starship are you assuming?>>16472840I do, >>16472834 please show us
>>16472840i care about trannies seething>verification not required
>>16472823Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually
>>16472841Block 2 is gone for certain. Maybe SLS will run on until Artemis 5-6 thats already booked/paid for.
>>16472846>with a starship, you can go anywhere you want
I'm a useless NASA employee, I'm /worried/ guys.
>>16472841>Orion and EUS will be kept around and reintegrated into Falcon Heavytoo much of a hassle, that would take lots of resources that could be instead focused on improving starship. Although, I can see Musk accepting this alternative if Orion ends up being too difficult to kill. I hope they might just as well go with Starship instead of Falcon Heavy.
>>16472843>Holy shit is that graph accurate? What final payload for Starship are you assuming?Yeah.429,125kg for Falcon 964,805kg for everything else100t Starship payloadSince this is quarterly, that would be 6 Starship launches or 600,000kg
>>16472840you would simply have hidden that post if that were true
Reposting end thread life news
the other thread is ALREADY dead wtf why did janny insta-archive it as soon as we staged
>>16472857
>>16472849
>>16472858board is moving quick today, for the same reasons we're all excited here>>16472854that's an insane visual, thanks
>>16472857>>16472861
>>16472854>Since this is quarterlyohh I see now. Now imagine the future charts including all the gorillion tanker launches.
>>16472861>just move the staff to another HR departmentdismantling successful lul
SLS joins the ranks of legendary rockets that got to orbit once and never again, like Black Arrow!
>>16472869same fate as the deathstick, I mean, Ares I.
>>16472867probably civil suits if they outright fired them (since they'll all be non-white straight males). But if you think the current HR department will allow newcomers to have any power or take their resources then lol. lot of them will get performance reviewed out
>>16472857Remember how "Biden will go after SpaceX/Meme" was considered schizopost? But was the actual truth all along? Now we have Musk in the whitehouse. Biden missed out by antagonizing Musk and now Trump will become the great president who brought humans to the Moon and Mars.
what ridiculous time we live in
>fluke of economics and politics leads to NASA funding for space startups>15 years later one of those companies has surpassed NASA on launch by several orders of magnitudewhat are the implications of Elon reformatting the entire government in the same way?
>>16472871They aren't changing anything, DEI is all across the company
>>16472872Didn't biden say some snarky comment about elon and rockets and it sounded like he didn't know starship/hls was apart of the current administration's moon mission?
>>16472876Don't get your hopes up. When it comes down to it, government is inefficient on purpose.
>>16472877that's been a thing since the 60s friend
why doesn't the google ai work for this question?
>>16472879I don't think Biden ever once acknowledged anything about space or spacex or nasa or any of it. His press secretary did at one point, but was forced to apologize for it.
>>16472879"Good luck with YOUR moon rocket" or some snarky shit.
>>16472876It blows my mind that it feels like neil armstrong & others were right. In a normal universe all private providers would've failed like boing. They would've done that shit on purpose just to claim fixed cost doesn't work. Commercial space only worked because elon got insanely rich and is a genuine futurist.
>>16472854Another thing to consider is the Chinese ramping up their numbers later this decade, something that Elon has said whenever that upmass-to-orbit graph has been brought up. Basically, SpaceX would for sure still dominate the industry, with 90-99% of launched mass, while China gets the remainder. The rest of the industry will be a rounding error.
>>16472632AAHHH IM GOING CRAZY SAVE ME THUNDERF00T AAAAHHHHHHH
>>16472882grok W even with the fake tweet lol
>>16472882https://search.brave.com/search?q=which+president+started+the+artemis+program&&summary=1
>>16472870>LES fires, capsule clears, as booster breaks up>Orion chutes pop, just in time for the still-burning SRB fuel fragments to fall on them, burning massive holesidk sounded pretty kino to me
Can someone explain space force in colorado vs alabama and tell me what my opinion is
If SLS is cancelled, what is left with Boeing? Starliner is mostly dead already.
>>16472882This is what Copilot says.
>not THE GREAT ELON MUSK edition>not SLS CANCELLATION editionWhat the fuck you stupid nigger I'm going to strangle you
Vivek is a fucking idiot
>>16472896SLS is just rumor right now. THE GREAT ELON MUSK edition is appropriate lmao. A missed chance, maybe next thread we might get some more confirmation on SLS
>>16472885great man theory proven once again>>16472893oh shit I forgot an SLS cancellation would basically be Boeing done with space. they're trying to get out of Starliner, they're trying to sell ULA, what else is there?
>>16472897The guy from Morrowind?
>>16472852I proposed the idea as Musk basically offering a fig leaf to the team overseeing SLS contracts and JPL or whatever at NASA. Where they can continue their project, but on a platform that has the flexibility to launch capsule and additional hardware up at a cadence vastly superior to SLS. NASA's biggest weakness is that the bulk of its budget gets dumped into SLS, which is a fire pit for cash--while its other programs and contracts suffer trying to suck the last drops of milk from a nearly expended tit. It's unhealthy and unsustainable. SLS has to go, but other programs related to it that add onto it or are expected to interact with it in space, shouldn't, if they're useful.
>>16472897republicans are going hard for the curry vote. please understand
>>16472897Name some dumb things he has said about space flight
>>16472897I want to say the purpose of keeping him around is for the whole good cop bad cop idea. Elon's the good cop, Vivek's the bad cop. His job will be to do the politicking while Musk does the questioning and slashing.
Can Falcon Heavy deliver the Gateway to the NRHO orbit?
>>16472909Falcon Heavy can deliver all of Gateway to NHRO. It could do it in under a year too. But it's not the limiting factor.
>>16472909noHALO+PPH is being sent to a, iirc, 100,000 km apogee elliptical orbit, that's FH's limit. that's still a good 800 m/s short of NRHO
>>16472911PPE* sorry.It could probably launch I-Hab to TLI but definitely not do the NRHO insertion itself.
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1856538263915225194
>>16472907he's an idiot at politicking too.
>>16472916Basically thisBridenstack without the ICPSOrion falls within the structural margin for the USDV btw
>>16472917Well, he's being setup to fail. It's kinda obvious.
>>16472897known among knowers as a CIA asset. also look closely, he's basically doing an impression of a person all the time
You're laughing. Thousands of SLS contractors are about to be out of a job and you're laughing?
>>16472916or just cancel orion altogether since it costs too much
>>16472909A falcon heavy with only like 30% stretched upper stage tanks could do everything including sending Orion to NRHO, massively narrow the gap between 3 stick recovery FH and 2 stick recovery FH and give high energy architecture faggots an aneurysm.That they never built a custom upper stage for FH is the greatest blunder.
>>16472917if that were true he wouldn't be part of the trump admin as after the primary he was fully behind him
>>16472925He just went behind the candidate that was universally favoured.(before Harris)Plus trump needed money for his campaign, it was a perfect match.
Musk fought the US government and he won
>>16472897>>16472917You could've explained why in your two off topic posts but you didn't. Thanks for the seethe
>>16472921Who will buy the river rocks now???
>>16472926>Plus trump needed money for his campaigndid he? they finished pretty solidly in the black
>>16472929Why couldn't they use gravel or a road again
>>16472849You could try being useful.
>>16472928Axovant was pure fraud and he completely failed at running Roivant.He's a retard.
>>16472879>>16472884You're thinking of this
>>16472927My man, it hasn't even BEGUN. He's got a target the size of Jupiter on his back now and is about to piss off a boatload of the worst kind of people.
>>16472931Because the gravel wouldn't come from Shelby's district.
>>16472931There's road and gravel underneath. It's actually four layers of stuff.
>>16472939I'm so glad he's dead
>>16472791>>16472797Brave people in a now vanished timeline sent a single proton back in time and made Trump turn his head at that exact moment. They did it knowing they would be erased, but that it was for the greater good.
>>16472959It does feel like what's happening now is the sort of thing that doesn't happen. Nothing ever happens posters on suicide watch
>>16472963Ot their groomed retard tranny assassin was always meant to fail. Didn't expect to have him get that close. They rolling back the agenda for a bit to make sure their dollars are worth something for a bit longer and that the country doesn't rip itself apart in the near future. Turning down the temperature for the frogs.Elon might be playing them though, 4d chess and all that.
So some guy drops in and says SLS discord is seething and when like 6 people ask for screenshot its not posted? Faggot move, anon.
I'm kind of surprised all the Starship flights had very little delay once the fueling has started. Its incredible for such a massive new project like this to have very little delay in fueling procedure and launch process.
>>16472897>Vivek is a fucking idiotEducation: Yale Law School (2013), Harvard University (2007)Net worth: 1 billion USD (2024) –hm..your statement doesn't seem to check out
I just read the news. Holy fuck.
>>16472907Elon is absolutely the bad cop lmfao
God, Artemis is such a fucking mess. When it came to Apollo, everyone knew they had a job to do and they put their heads down and got on with it. This is ultimately a result of DEI (and don't try and convince me otherwise, trannies, because I saw the footage of Apollo behind the scenes and it was 99.9% young white males).
>>16472976fuck off ip grabber>>16472977>he thinks going to ivys equates to intelligence
>>16472949he's alive and well, turned 90 this year
>>16472977>>16472935
>>16472980>DEIIt really predates the current DEI ascendancy. Artemis/Constellation is just a big corporate welfare program that occasionally tries to do something spaceflight related
https://x.com/edwards345/status/1856510214113206473Unstoppable Force > Immovable Object. Finally solved the age old conundrum.
>>16472976feels good being the tiebreaker vote between jupiter and e*rth
>>16472841>I think SLS will get the axe. Orion and EUS will be kept around and reintegrated into Falcon Heavy. It's a behemoth of a capsule, but a useful one nonetheless and has gone around the moon successfully at least once. It does have heatshield issues, but those can be solved at a cost far lower than $4Bn/launch for SLS Block 1 with a $2Bn launch tower.Nah. Just scrap Orion entirely. It'll take a long while for NASA to crew certify ground-launched Starships (not to mention re-entry with crew), so until then just send people up on a Dragon capsule and dock in Earth orbit with (a second) HLS that can be used as a glorified Earth-Moon shuttlebus. Return astronauts to Earth on Dragon via the same HLS shuttlebus.>Even if Starship is flying routinely to Moon and Mars, Falcon 9 and Heavy are still way too godly to shelf, considering there's no equivalent flight hardware across the continental US that can match operational reliability AND flight capability.Starship is planned to have lower operating costs than Falcon. What would be the point?
>>16472987>this work will conclude no later than July 4th, 2026WHAT? They not even giving my man the full four fucking years???? Only two and a half to try and dismantle the demon system?
>>16472996Wait bad drunk maths, ONE AND A HALF YEARS????it'sFuckingOver
>>16472996>>16472997The dismantling needs to happen quickly to give as little time to react as possible. Planning for it to take longer than the midterms would open up a big possibility for obstruction. Besides, you know how it is. Plan to take four years and it'll end up taking eight.
>>16472997How many times have I fucking told you to stop hitting the sauce you dumbass
kikeIV9250 is now in full SLS shill mode, you fucking shitbird paycheck leech.
>>16473003>literal who
>>16473006Hes a known /sfg/ poster, mr newfag
>>16473007OK retard
Elon, don't be a faggot.
>>16473009It's true tho
I'm scared someone will assassinate Elon. That would mean the end of Starship and the mission to Mars for decades, if not centuries. He does have decent bodyguards with him all the time, right?
>>16473011yes and has said he has increased it lately and joked about it, he is very aware
Just woke up and saw the SLS newsI hope Berger still has his operatives in the SLS discord, I want to see the seething
>>16473013Man, what can you even do against a real hardened glowie though? Some dude shoots you with idk some fucking polonium injector nano dart from his cellphone as he walks past. Get one of those fibre optic spool controlled drones and it drop it on his head. I'm sure I haven't even scratched the surface.
>>16473024The glowies are participating. Agent Ramaswamy is there to make sure Musk doesn't meddle with the wrong funding streams.
>>16473015Clean it up janny
>>16472865Both Falcon Heavy and New Glenn should have the ability to get Orion to LEO, though Falcon Heavy would require some structural mods.
>>16473033Falcon would some customization to lift a payload as Fat as Orion. Vulcan wouldn't have any difficulty mounting it, but Orion's 26 tons is right at the edge of what a VC6 is capable of lifting; some stretching to improve performance might be required. New Glenn is overkill, and with a third stage might be able to flat out replace SLS.
>>16472929Why they never went with trains? Even the Vulcan pad uses them IIRC
>>16473038The launch mass of a complete Orion spacecraft is ~37 tons.
>>16473051>37 tonnesAbsolute pork barrel fat fuck. Kill it Elon inshallah.
>>16473050Those big SRB are incredibly heavy.
>>16472872>No you don’t understand! They didn’t cancel any missions and just stalled them while wasting years shilling for global warming satellites! They love space just like you! All the bad stuff was the orange guy’s fault for promising too much!
>>16473009Nuclear is technically solar with extra steps.
>>16473053pussy
>>16472886Soon....
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/for-the-second-time-this-year-nasas-jpl-center-cuts-its-workforce/
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/12/rocket-lab-rklb-q3-strong-revenue-growth-first-neutron-deal.html
>>16473075This rig seems more reliable and sensible than the chopsticks, but if SpaceX can make the catching tower a success then nothing will beat it because catching a rocket mid air is fucking awesome.
>>16473009What are the top 10 in order best sources of energy for the next 30 years ChatGPT said:Here’s a ranking of the top 10 energy sources projected to play crucial roles over the next 30 years, based on sustainability, energy output, and potential to scale globally.Solar Power: Solar energy is abundant, renewable, and now one of the cheapest sources of energy in many parts of the world. Advances in solar efficiency and storage are set to make it the leading energy source, especially in sun-rich regions.Wind Power: Onshore and offshore wind farms have become very cost-effective and produce large amounts of electricity with low emissions. Offshore wind in particular is expanding due to consistent wind speeds and large coastal energy demands.Hydropower: As the largest source of renewable electricity globally, hydropower remains essential, especially in regions with significant river systems. Modernization of existing plants and pumped storage advancements will maintain its importance.Nuclear Power: Nuclear provides consistent, high-output energy with minimal greenhouse gas emissions. While safety concerns remain, advancements in small modular reactors (SMRs) and fusion technology could greatly increase nuclear’s role as a clean energy source.Geothermal Energy: Although geographically limited, geothermal offers stable and consistent power output. New technologies could expand geothermal potential to more locations, making it a reliable complement to intermittent renewables like wind and solar.Battery Storage: Although not a direct energy source, battery storage systems are crucial for making renewable sources viable by storing excess power and managing grid reliability. Advances in lithium-ion, solid-state, and flow batteries will be essential for grid-scale applications.Bioenergy: Green Hydrogen: Ocean Energy: Advanced Natural Gas with Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS):
>>16473013>>16473011https://x.com/america/status/1856525164873150805
>>16472841>SpaceX will inevitably turn Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy over to the US government to manage and operateThis will never happen
>>16473091>KosherGPT
>>16473097Yeah, no way unless SpaceX goes bankrupt or something and even then someone will have to buy it. By that time, Starship would be more appropriate buy order. And this bankruptcy scenario is entirely unlikely now.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856526206729953764lmao I guess this is one way of circumventing the conflict of interestjust delete the programmes, nobody gets subsidies
>>16473101He's going to go nuclear isn't he. Man, it's going to be beautiful if it happens.
>>16473050I used to be so scared of the world, to grow up and be a man in the world, but if you just study a bit you get to build cool big complicated metal things and just be a cool guy secure as yourself as a builder, designer, operator, laison, of child's dream toys, I played with all kinds of erector sets and excavators in sand pits, cool toy trains, it really is so impressive the details of manufacturing, machining, workability with metals for various purposes and tasks, to work with very complex things, that must fill one with pride and wholeness, completeness, okayness, purpose, every thing is good and okay when you are a confident and secure member of something extraordinary,.sophisticated, awe inspiring, and excellent
>>16473101Benevolent dictator vibes
>>16472916Why not use a dragon to dock with the HLS in leo?
>>16473101DELETED
>>16473101>Elon spends the next two months compiling a list>gets added to the administration>deletes thousands of programs and agencies day one>resigns
>>16473089The China rig has no divert options. In straight down, and if you're off, you take out the structure. At least the Zilla has a late divert option to try and save the tower, and a wider approach corridor.
>>16473111His final act of office, having achieved his goals of streamlining, is to delete his own role as there is no longer a purpose to it.>>16473091>gives up towards the endlmao
> Berger - My sense is that the solution would be launching Orion on one rocket (probably FH, from 39A) and then docking with a (separately launched) Centaur V and boosting it to the Moon.Pic kinda sorta related.
>>16473116https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1856538263915225194
>>16473101America is capitalistic and competitive. 45 bil for an undelivered promise, while Elon runs a very company that routinely provides that service, I dont know at what cost I'll try to check, how many starlinks for rural internet access
>>16473117Welcome back, EDS.Beautifully poetic
>>16473114>>gives up towards the end>lmaoTo be fair I deleted that content because the post was over size limit
>>16473118> I dont know at what cost I'll try to check, how many starlinks for rural internet accessCould have provided terminals for every flyover hick that wanted it for that money. And it's all just fucking disappeared.Yeah
>>16473118"The cost of building and launching 1,000 Starlink satellites is estimated to be over $8 billion per year. This is due to the cost of replacing satellites that fall out of the sky, as well as the cost of launching them:Satellite cost: Each satellite costs around $500,000 to build. The V2 mini version costs more due to its larger size and capabilities.Launch cost: Each Falcon 9 launch costs around $67 million.Annual cost: Around $8.2 billion per year is needed to maintain the full strength of the satellite constellation"
>>16473121>And it's all just fucking disappeared.Seriously how, isn't there any accounting? A billion dollars is a staggering amount of money, many people could probably live on a million or more for a lifetime, at least greatly greatly help them, 45 bil is crazy, how many houses that can buy
>>16473121Do many people still not have decent internet access in middle America? How many people about were/are clamoring for this
>>16473126>45 bil is crazy, how many houses that can buy45,000 million dollar homes
>>16473121It's a glacial government program. But there is a difference between earmarking and spending. They haven't spent tens of billions for nothing as le wokeness guy suggests.
>>16473118In terms of user hardware, that's enough to buy every household in the US a terminal.It's the same satellites covering every spot on earth over time, they couldn't and don't cluster above cities.So you could potentially connect rural areas in their entirety with satellites that are sitting around doing nothing since the constellation as a whole is sized to handle urban bandwidth.
>>16473129Don't care, deleted, goodbye parasite.
>>16473127>How many people about were/are clamoring for thisIf only you knew how bad things really are. Rural america is getting RAPED by a variety of cocksucking monopolies with garbage products. Most of them, unfortunately, are kind of retarded and have to be led by the nose since the television doesn't tell them that starlink exists.
>>16473126It hasn't disappeared. That's the maximum amount that can be spent under the program the amount that has been allocated to it. And there is some oversight from gao.https://www.internetforall.gov/program/broadband-equity-access-and-deployment-bead-program>Final Proposals are due no later than 365 days after the approval of the complete Initial Proposal. Once an Eligible Entity’s Final Proposal is approved by NTIA, the Eligible Entity will receive BEAD Program funds to begin funding BEAD projects. Are there reasons to get mad at the program? Yes. But you're getting riled up about something you made up in your heads.
>>16473134OK captain big brain. Want to tell us how much has been spent so far to connect zero (0) people then?
>>16473129Yes it's not that all the money got eaten by the system necessarily but it IS taking like five damn years to roll out anything at all by current estimates.
>>16473129What was it spent on? Why was any of it spent on anything other than purchasing from an existing service provider what was claimed to be sought with the money
>>16473135I don't care enough to try to dig that up. You can wait for the inspector general report.https://www.oig.doc.gov/wp-content/OIGPublications/Audit-of-NTIAs-Allocation-of-BEAD-Funds-Announcement.pdf
>>16473129YOU'REFIRED
>>16473134"56Participating States and Territories$46b+Awarded to Date270+Internet for All Awardees"
>>16473139So the government project in charge of spending 45 thousand million taxpayer dollars doesn't even have something as simple as a counter for how much money has been spent and the people have to wait for some other government beauracrats to tell us what has been done? Lol. Goodbye.
>>16473129>It's a glacial government programNot any more, time to find real jobs!
>>16473134"Award SynopsisTo date, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has allocated more than $42.45 billion across 56 states and territories as part of the Broadband Equity Access and Deployment Program."Is there any info results on progress? Out of the total number of people this program was made for, what percentage of them now have their needs met?
>>16473138>Why was any of it spent on anything other than purchasing from an existing service provider what was claimed to be sought with the moneyUnless of course state by state top secret operation programs. But the public doesn't look at any tax and spenditure records, well case in point, until right now. So there's no need to even make a fake paper trail
We'll see how insane the final program is if it doesn't get axed. If the local government gets ownership of the fiber it can easily be cheaper and better than the usual monopolist broadband providers.I'm sure Musk would love for Starlink to get included since that locks people into buying from him.Whether the feds should subsidizing rural broadband in the first place is another matter.
>>16473150Ah geez dude you really expect us to release that kind of information to the public on a regular basis?.... Fucken slave driver man...
>>16473154>government ownednonsense
>>16472869Black Arrow was cheap, died because of lack of funds not too too much like SLS
>>16473154>. If the local government gets ownership of the fiber it can easily be cheaper and better than the usual monopolist broadband providers.How does that usually work, county to county had their own power grids and stuff. And different, sometimes more and less, public private companies instal and own fiber optic cables? I'm unfamiliar with how starlink works, does it need fiber optic hook up to power lines
>>16472872>Remember how "Biden will go after SpaceX/Meme" was considered schizopost? But was the actual truth all along?we can retire this gif now
>>16472891Shelby retired and Huntsville, even with Redstone, has been more civilian than military. Colorado become solidified as the center for military aerospace while the civilian side of things becomes even more diffuse.
We're never getting the full family now ;_;
>>16473166I forget, can LLL get off the pad? I don't remember how close the margins were.
The only thing with all this stuff, I'm trying to picture how the media will phrase it>world's richest guy, who now runs a new government department, cancels the moon rocket and gives more contracts to his own company's space rocket
>>16473170>Saves america $50 billion dollar by cancelling garbage rocket>Provides America with a rocket that is 100X cheaper and brings people to Mars/Moon>At the same timeMake it so!
>>16473170>cancels the moon rocket and gives more contracts to his own company's space rocketBecause his moon rocket does x y z better for a b c cheaper, maybe
>>16473170"Evil rich man undermines and defunds government programs"
>>16473166>SSSL>SL>LSSSWhat the fuck were they thinking? These rockets all look inbred
>>16473129its ineffective whether the money has been earmarked or actually spent
>>16473134GAO keeps writing reports about how shit SLS is all the time, nothing has happenedGAO is almost pointless (I guess they might have brought some of this attention but idk, SLS being a waste of money is clear with or without GAO)
>>16473170already calling it corruption with respect to other Musk companies, no doubt the argument will be used for everythignhttps://electrek.co/2024/11/12/call-it-like-it-is-tslas-rise-is-not-due-to-performance-but-hope-for-corruption/
>>16473182shut up bitch, we're in mourning
>>16473187why would you mourn this piece of shit? lmao
>>16473186Its just castrated editor in chief pushing anti-Tesla posts. He's a canadian leftist who cut ties with Tesla/Musk once Musk stopped playing around with covid.
>>16473101Based.
>>16473191isn't that Fred Lambert? but yeah everyone at Electrek have had EDS for a while
Still a bit early to tell how dense the cloud cover will be.>Mostly cloudy skies early, will become partly cloudy later in the day> 24% precipitation
>>16473194Anyone covering Tesla should be. He hasn't sold anyone tickets to Mars on schedules that keep slipping. But he has sold cars on the promise that they are "full self driving capable" and that it's coming soon.
>>16473200Million people are already driving FSD. Its like claiming no one is using Starlink when they're everywhere.
>>16473202The difference between what was promised and what was delivered is like the difference between suborbital and orbital. Sure it does part of what it was supposed to.We'll have to wait until they release AFSD actually full self driving in a decade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91RgO2N2rfIsoon
> “I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. ' And God granted it”
>>16473203FSD is already here. Its a self driving car. You are just refusing to accept that people are buying, using, by the mass. Next you'll say Falcon 9 doesn't exist because it fails every now and then.
>>16473209Now this is pure gaslighting and cope of the highest degree. Have fun with your Cybertruck.
>>16473205More useless, expensive, and overdue than SLS. Something only Eurofags could achieve
>>16473193Don't be rude to SLS-chan! She is trying her best! Not her fault that NASA is infested by the incompetent and the corrupt...
>>16473211Cybertruck is based
>>16473214I can't believe she's fucking dead
>>16473209and Starship landed on Mars 4 years ago
>>16473216I'm glad SHE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BORN!
>>16473209It's not there and probably won't be there before 2030
>>16473209Cars cant drive themselves
>>16473215There are several in my town. Looks like they're all driven by soccer moms, which would be really funny if that became the main consumer for them. >>16473209Meh. The driving assist technology in Tesla products certainly use that name and if you let them self define the term, sure, it's "Full Self Driving" but the average person hears that and thinks something they could turn on and take a nap on their way to their destination. >>16473186Short sellers are going to keep bankrupting themselves with their fantasies.
Best of both worlds
>>16473224>they could turn on and take a nap Fake definition. The same argument I've heard about autopilot name. About everyone will think one way. All nonsense. The million+ people using it certainly knows what the capabilities are and what the limitations are. The car wont go 10 seconds without it forcing you to takeover by beeping at you if you take your eyes off. So the nonsense about "average person" thinking that is just another way of laundering credibility from people that have never used it. It just reminds me of the "experts say", "anonymous sources say", "nytimes says" "other guy says". No ownership of statement = no credibility. No actual experience = no credibility.
>>16473226This is actually inadvertantly a good visual of how much reuse cuts into your margins, even with the hydrolox handicap
>>16472857>Department of Government EfficiencyYou fucking irl shitposter, Elon. lol
>>16472996Spending 4 full years making things efficient is not very efficient, anon.
>>16473127There's a reason NASA and other government institutions stream in 720p still and that's so that Elmer Dinkle in Bumfuck, Nowhere can watch it on his "internet connection".
>>16472857you can't improve the efficiency of governments. they are inefficient by design. All Elon will do there is pave the way for SpaceX.
>>16472861I expect Boeing to quickly catch up to Airbus now.
>>16472924>he doesn't use an ad blocker
>>16473235All organizations can be turned efficient with the right leadership and execution. Tesla/SpaceX was founded as such by Musk. Twitter, he bought, was extremely inefficient and he cut that beurocratic fat by 90% and made the site better/faster/efficient.
>>16473237787 production will now hit 1 frame per week by the end of 2025
>>16472760Holy fuck I can't wait to see spaceguy5's meltdown when this gets announced.
>>16473254He's the mod of sls board on reddit and he deleted the thread about SLS possibly being canned
>>16473254>>16473256They will all come to kneel
>>16473200it is coming soon
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856637946129998153its all coming together and you still doubt Musk
>>16473267Its why Boring Company is part SpaceX owned.
>>16473256Oh man an entire board full of redditors seething about SLS cancelation? I can't wait.
>>16473123F9 internal is like $15mil
>>16473237Decades of damage takes a lot of time to recover from and Boeing might not have enough runway for that. Though there's no way to know the probability of it happening, I'm seeing lots of rumors about Boeing being broken up with the aircraft portion being purchased by GE. Not sure if anyone would want the Space division whole but maybe some of the IP and physical assets would be valuable.
>>16473154>If the government gets ownership it can easily be cheaper and betterEuro hours are something else lmao
>>16473273aerospace grade mouse
>not the 'Great Elon Musk' editionWasted stage.
>>16473267>tunnelse-elon... no...
>>16473273>GE>purchasing anything
>>16473267He's so autistic and I love it
>>16473267It's all falling into place
>>16473290Fucking Moon Bunny possession.
What does this mean for Dragonfly? That's all I care about from NASA these days.
>>16472841>I think SLS will get the axe.The administration is going to look hard for spending to cut. How could anyone justify keeping SLS in that environment? And of course, the guy in charge of making the cuts is none other than Elon.I can't wait to see the SLS brony become homeless.
>>16472865Do Orion next!
>>16473286They spun off pretty much everything that wasn't aerospace related. Now that they're purely an aerospace company, it would make sense for them to jump on a one time opportunity to get significant aerospace assets at a depressed price.>The division operated under the name of General Electric Aircraft Engines (GEAE) until September 2005, and as GE Aviation until July 2022. In July 2022, GE Aviation changed its name to GE Aerospace in a move executives say reflects the engine maker's intention to broaden its focus beyond aircraft engines. In April 2024, GE Aerospace became the only business line of the former General Electric conglomerate, after it had completed the divestiture of GE HealthCare and GE Vernova (its energy businesses division).
>>16473296If SLS and MSR get the axe and NASA can focus on payloads (notably heavy payloads that can be built quicker and easier) then we're sending 20 dragonflies at once to map a significant portion of the surface (none will visit the lakes)
>>16473297I suspect that the reason for bringing in Vivek Ramaswamy is so he can be the face of anything dealing with parts of the government in areas that Musk's companies are involved. This would be to reduce to appearance of a conflict of interest, even if we all know Musk is influencing the decisions.
>>16473303Yeah, I was wondering about that possibility, too.
>>16473296Wow, can't wait to colonize that cryogenic shit colored landscape!
>>16473309There's no shortage of brown nosers in the world but an extreme shortage of those who have a rocket company that can bring glory to the country, and by extension, its leader.
>>16473294fucking moon bunnies? count me in!
>>16472931Didn't meet the design criteria (waste tax money in Alabama)
>>16473117I'm a retard without a fucking clue but isn't vulcan a new rocket? Is it human rated?
>>16472982Satan needs a little more time to get his best torturers ready.
>>16473337All of the existing and the recent onset EDS sufferers in the replies scrambing to justify anything but SpaceX warm my cold heart.>no vulcan isn't man rated>no new glenn isn't man rated either>the abominable chud will have to do that too, oh the humanity
>>16472996>>16472997If they planned to take 4 years there's the real possibility of the whole thing being scrapped before it's started. If they finished in less than two years, would still have veto power for two more years to prevent changes from being rolled back, even in an absolute worst case scenario. Plus it gives time for the policies to bear fruit before the next presidential election.It will be interesting to see how much time Elon spends on this. He's already shown himself capable of doing more than any ten men, though, so it will probably be fine.
>>16472996Maybe they're planning to speed it up while the Republicans are still in the majority. With the mid-term, there's a possibility that they would miss the chance with the Dems gunning for the seats.
>>16473062False
>>16473340>>16473337Vulcan actually does make sense (if it can lost something as heavy as orion, idk).Vulcan has high c3 and is made for that sort of thing. It would be a nice welfare handout to prevent total SpaceX monopoly. That's a good thing because it means oldspace has a vested interest in not getting Artemis cancelled in the next administration.Obviously falcon heavy could also probably do it, but it would require a lot of work. They would need to launch with only the side boosters then air light the center core which would take development effort. Vulcan can just fly as is.
>>16473101You can just tweet Elon something you hate about the federal government and if you get his attention he'll consider removing it. This is the best timeline.
>>16473345The dude probably already had the plans in mind years ago when the Biden administration fuck with him couple years back.
>>16473123Is this AI? If the cost of 1 satellite is $5 million including launch costs (it isn't) it would cost $5 billion to launch 1000 every year. Why do they need to be replaced every year?
>>16473354random question, are you or have you ever been Tory Bruno?
>>16473267all according to keikaku
>>16473358magatards actually believe this. How long until reality sets in, and nothing changes?
>>16473367Read more carefully. Elon considering removing something doesn't mean it will actually be removed.Not only are you a huge faggot, but your whole post is retarded. That is not a coincidence.
>>16473340human rating isn't that hard when you're putting an existing proven capsule and LES on top. An Artemis program launched by a combination of:>FH>Vulcan>NG>eventually starshipwould be extremely based
>>16473375>proven capsule
>>16473377literally no problems. why do you ywan atstarshiplosing 20% of its tiles yet scream at some abrasion on the orion shield well within safety margin?
https://spacenews.com/nasa-faces-disruptive-presidential-transition/new fovst article up.
>>16473381>Panelists, though, expect Musk to play a role, directly or otherwise, in reshaping NASA in the next administration. “We’ll have a discussion with Elon. He’s earned a seat at the table,” said Scott Pace, director of George Washington University’s Space Policy Institute who served on the NASA transition for the incoming George W. Bush administration.these fucking gay niggers think he didnt deserve a spot at the table when he heads fucking spacex.
>>16473384>At one point in the discussion, she asked the panel if they thought the Space Launch System and Orion programs would continue in the next administration. None of the panelists raised their hands. “Not as they are,” Pace said.well berger was right on the money.
>>16473375human rating is not even a thingbillion dollar sat's are way more delicate and expensive than humans
>>16473380>the main support beam of the bridge cracked a 3rd of the way through when a car crossed it, that means we have a 3X safety factor!>why don't you wanna send a bus full of people across?
>>16473391take this same approach with shartship and it will literally never be safe enough to fly people.
>>16473392The difference is starship changed the heat shield whereas nasa has been procrastinating on orions heat shield since they discovered the problem.
>>16473394NASA already knows what caused the problem. Theyve fixed it.
>>16473380starship and orion have vastly different development methods
>>16473395They would have put an article out if they did
>>16473395>source, my ass
Elon couldn't fix twitter, why does anyone think he will somehow succeed with government.
>>16473399They learnt their lesson about talking to the press. if they said the cause then it would create another wave of sensational articles. Trust NASA.
>>16473395how did they fix it?
FIVE DAYS UNTIL STARSHIP FLIES AGAIN
>>16473097yeah that part didn't make much sense to me either
>just keep massive boondoggle programs around because "they are useful"capsules are fucking trivial, Orion should be cancelled, everyone involved fired, and all hardware destroyed
>>16473123doesn't seem factual
New pics of Stoke's FFSC engine
>>16473404>>16473398Trust NASA. Patriots are in control.
So if Starship is flying less than a week from now, it begs the question, what would be happening if Kamala won?
>>16473406
>>16473412What a rats nest
>>16473416Nothing? Apart from Elon having meltdown, they already had a license. The question is how long they will wait for orbital launch license
I'm really fucking worried and I want Elon to win so bad.I don't even live in the US.Fate of western (possibly global) civilization is at stake and I can feel it in the air.
>>16473418A bunch of sensors I reckon. Won't be on the final product.
>>16473409Put it into a newly created Museum of Government Waste and put all the most embarrassing shit that gets cut with DOGE in there as a reminderOrion and SLS alongside transgender rat HIV studies
>>16473422He already won.
>>16473425You think they'll just give up now?His life is at risk.
>>16473416increasing concern for the water quality at boca chica, and a new report surfaces proving that some dolphins get sad when rockets land on drone platforms.
>>16473111"Great! All this money we saved can go strait to ISRAEL!"
>>16473416Elon would be in jail.
>>16473430Go back to >>>/pol/
SLS bros...
>>16473435
>>16473435Seeing the seethe from spaceguy5 alone would make this worth it
all because they are too scared to just assemble a spaceship in LEOCan't grift enough I guess if it isn't redesigning a new vehicle from scratch and planning 2 decades to do it
https://x.com/spaceguy5/status/1856591492157956413Ummm bros whats happening here
>>16473428The ULA snipers have been dealt with, they won't be a problem any longer.
>>16473435i want to see it happen
>>16473443Based????
>>16473443>still mindbroken by berger
why is the nose of starship so pointy hen it presents obvious disadvantages?
>>16473451>richest man in the world needs to fundraise and campaign for a candidate
>>16473435The Bridenstack WILL BE REAL
>>16473451>expertslol
>>16473443Just arguing for more funding for block 1b
I'm gonna coom when SLS gets axed finally
>>16473406We are in a world where this isn't even the biggest spaceflight happening of the week
>>16473428It will be fine. He's going to cut funding for the CIA's domestic assassination division.
>>16473456>NASA will dictate policy to the presidentI think there might have been some fentanyl in his copium. Normally it's not this powerful.
>>16473451Elon gets all the contracts anyway lol
This guy is too easy lol
>>16473456this guy needs to brush up his CV, maybe get a janitor job at McDonalds instead of NASA
Seeing a lot of comments saying nothing is going to happen with DOGEI think the first layoffs need to hit before it really starts to sink in for most people
>>16473117>>16473354I don’t think Vulcan can even get Orion to LEO without all 6 strap ons. Given that they have a demonstrated 25% failure rate I don’t think that would be a good idea.
>>16473101>Elon musk going through the government employe roster
>>16473472Let them talk.
>>16473473Assuming the probability of failure for each booster is independent they'd have almost a 20% percent chance of success. Were there to be astronauts on board?
>>16473118>>16473101The reason it hasn't achieved much is because almost none of that $42B has been deployed yet. The program has so far mostly been stuck in bureaucracy and approvals processes
>>16473183There's a major difference between a $42B expenditure being approved by a congressional spending bill, and $42B actually being spent. In the former case, the government still has the money available, and in the latter case, it does not.
>wake up>spaceguy5 seethingah, it is a good day today
>>16473462The budgetary allocation is made by the relevant congressional committees
>>16473482When you phrase it that way, it’s better than SLS so I guess they might as well do it.
>>16473456SG5 will still be insisting nothing but SLS can send people to the Moon after SLS is canceled and we are on our 10th commercial landing.
>>16473454It would take longer to get the ICPS from ULA than it would be to make an entirely Starship based architecture
dont spend so much time thinking about silly twitter people frens. it doesnt lead to anything
>>16473499I don't even have a twatter, I only see those posts here. I wish I never saw them at all.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1856734807927247251its happening
>>16473505https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1856732026508107871
>>16473507>>16473505Ermmmmm bros are you tired of winning yet
>>16473505>>16473507Damn, he's being given the red-carpet treatment from Trump's circle, remains to be seen if this jovial atmosphere will last let alone yield positive results. After all, Trump had abysmal records of having people in his administration staying loyal to him and vice versa.
If Trump said: "we will go to Mars", then it will happen no matter what.
>>16473514>"we will go to Mars-" *crowd starts cheering*>"We will go to Mars and we will STAY on Mars" *crowd goes wild, Elon runs up and starts doing star jumps on the stage*
>>16473516i have no problem with this
>>16473452it needs to be pointy. otherwise it wont strike fear in americans enemies.
https://x.com/NASAArtemis/status/1856727979251957831>Welcome to the Artemis Accords, Denmark >Denmark is the 48th nation to commit to the safe and responsible exploration of space that benefits humanity
>>16473468SpaceGuy5 gets DoGEed
>>16473547>denmarkthe news yesterday made it sound like it was going to be an important country
>>16473547>angolawhat contributions to spaceflight has this great nation made?
>>16473551Who's missing and important?
how do you define what counts as a megaconstellation? it has to be more than a few hundred sats right?
>>16473301It will take 8-10 years for a Dragonfly eployed at the equator region to reach the north lakes. Why don't they just drop them at the lakes first? Not even a Mars rover can last that long, nevermind an experimental quadcopter a billion kilometers away.>>16473308Enjoy dying of cancer in your irradiated, toxic desert.
>>16473547I want white supremacy all across the galaxy.
>>16473553The only real important countries left that Artemis could pick up would be someone like Turkey, Indonesia, or Taiwan. Africa doesn't matter and the rest of central Asia is all close ILRS allies
Does anyone know good Nazi historical sites in Munich to visit?
>>16473555>Why don't they just drop them at the lakes first?They're probably scared of losing it in the drink as it lands. They should drop something into the lake on purpose though, just to see what's down there.
>>16473562There's propaganda value in getting a Taiwanese onto the Moon before PRC, but I don't think that is likely.
>>16473570but that would agitate mainland China
>>16473562looks like most of the major players are spoken for. the only wildcard is turkey.
>>16473547We need to prioritize decolonization of antarctica
>>16473516based
>>16473548It'll be hilarious when he gets laid off, and then employers never hire him because of his social media meltdowns
>>16473573I think you mean colonization of antarctica.
>>16473573We need to prioritize decolonization of earth (from Mars)
>>16473507Is that his new incubator?
>>16473505how does an autist such as Musk deal with these situations?
SLS jobs will be lostspace force national guard jobs will be gained
>>16473572Turkey, Indonesia, Jordan, Vietnam, and the Philippines are the five that are worth keeping an eye on. Turkey and Indonesia are both really good at playing off East vs. West to their benefit and they have long-standing interests in space. Jordan is the last undeclared country in the Middle East that's both rich enough and stable enough to care about space travel, and Vietnam and the Philippines are the biggest economies in S.E. Asia that haven't picked a team yet. >>16473570The only chance would be if we stuck a Taiwanese astronaut on Artemis III, but that doesn't mean it's not completely impossible. Kjell Lindgren is Taiwanese-American and flew as the mission commander on Crew-4, but right now he's the Deputy Director of the Flight Operations Directorate so his career's probably moved on from being crew.
>>16473587my guess is that indonesia will likely go to ILRS, with jordan, vietnam, and philippines going to artemis
>>16473562Artemis seems to have more useful members. USA is obviously doing the heavy lifting, but after them there is France, Germany, Canada, Australia, India and Italy. Most of these can actually contribute something. Meanwhile, ILRS has pretty much only Russia and China, and Kazakhstan, which serves as a launch site.
>>16473587If Yugoslavia was still a country, would it be interested in space travel?
>>16473590serbia signed up for ILRS
>>16473589the artemis accords aren't really about collaboration. It's just a non-binding space law agreement as a pretense for picking sides in the new space race.
>>16473579This, warm the planet up so we can finally utilize the frozen continent. Just think of all the archeology that lies underneath the ice.
>>16473576
>can't even colonize Detroit>but they want to colonize mars
Is anyone watching this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFgXUXeGh6gU.S. House Oversight Committee holds a hearing on reports of “unidentified anomalous phenomena” (UFOs), with testimonies expected from former Department of Defense and NASA members.
my pp hard
>>16473600Fuck off >>>/x/
>>16473595>all the archeologyyou mean palaeontology, archaeology is only human remains. there are probably some cool dinosaurs and marsupial fossils down under though.
>>16473567Not in the lakes, retard, near them. So we can actually get photographs of them before the thing shits itself randomly and we don't get any Titan pictures for another 3 decades.
>>16473600inb4 its not aliens
>>16473600zamn
>>16473603>>16473606The government has been hiding something about UFOs and a majority of congress is actually pissed about that. Because, this UFO secret involves a HUGE chunk of black spending, and they have budget control.Its spaceflight, and also now. Its live.
>>16473614nothing ever happens. Next you'll tell me the sun will send us all into the stoneage because of long wires.
>>16473615Its about revealing government corruption. Where is all the UFO hush money going?
>>16473600everyone who believes this shit is a schizo
>>16473619there isnt any to begin with.
>>16473555>Saturn being that size in Titans sky>Saturn being visible at allhorrible dishonesty for the meme-est of moons
>>16473621>no government corruptionAre you kidding me?
>>16473604>you mean palaeontologyNo, no I do not anon.
>>16473611Luna!
>>16473623no hush money I was talking about idiot. Simply because people could just leak it online anonymously. theres no way you could keep a secret this big and "hush money" is not the answer.
>>16473588Indonesia is impossible to get a read on. They've got strong economic and diplomatic ties to China, but they've successfully rejected any agreements that would make them a Chinese vassal state. Most of their satellite fleet was built in the west and launched by European or American rockets, but they have contracted some payloads and launches from China. They tried to get SpaceX interested in building a Falcon 9 launch site in their country, and while that didn't go anywhere the offer is still open and might be revisited when SpaceX starts proliferating Starship launch complexes. Indonesia signed a 2019 agreement with China on cooperating and the peaceful use of space, but they've also doing a few collaborative projects with the ESA. Honestly, if anyone were going to find a way to join both Artemis and ILRS it'd be these guys. >>16473589Egypt-South Africa and Venezuela-Nicaragua are geographically essential if you want to build up a real deep space network.
>>16473630>They tried to get SpaceX interested in building a Falcon 9 launch site in their countryprime space launch location
Blue Origin guy got murdered by his nutty dyke daughter https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14073763/corey-burke-jeff-bezos-murders-father-timothy-election-night-meltdown.html
>>16473637looks like a job opened up for a soon-to-be jobless sls employee
>>16473637Jesus Christ...
>>16473628Have you seen the military budget?https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fy24_ndaa_conference_executive_summary1.pdfA lot of money is black projects, and UFOs is a large one.
>>16473637Actually the employee was the one who did the killing
>>16473625i would send my probe down to the luna surface if you know what i mean...maybe conduct some core sample drilling.
>>16473637yeah but he probably said it in a really rude way
>>16473637Why is 800 thousand highlighted? That’s not that much in Seattle.
>>16473637You can't make this shit up
>>16473637Nah, the daughter is the one that works at Blue Origin. Seems that the election threw her in some sort of excited delirium statehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14073763/corey-burke-jeff-bezos-murders-father-timothy-election-night-meltdown.htmlAlso killed him with an ice axe. Same as that guy Trotsky lol. Can't make this shit up
>>16473611>>16473625loona posting has escaped /trash/the west has fallen
>>16473649literal nutjob trannies running recruitment/training over at BO and people wonder why its a s hit show
>>16473649what the fuck is wrong with people
>>16473649>>16473648kinda cute!
>>16473649oh this was election night LOL Typical TDS
>>16473643please elaborate. In extreme detail.
>>16473656I hate you niggers so much
>>16473651As soon as she's involved with anything spaceflight related I'm going to start spamming
>>16473657you have to go back newfag
>>16473655Fact check! Due to a relative infrequency of patricide among the patriotically challenged, this does not represent a case of "Typical TDS"
>>16473649What even is a 'power lesbian'?
>>16473648Repulsive people.>>16473653I blame the hyperbolic legacy press. Also the dyke, but MSM had blood on their hands too.
Is this anime space girls general or what?
>>16473669a parasite. That's all most people need to know
will vulcan save ula or what
>>16473657Don't fight the urges
>>16473674Yea
>>16473676results over rhetoric
>>16473681>loses part of its engine>doesnt give a shit>finishes mission anywaywhat a stud
>>16473674As long as its topical
>>16473681spacex snipers did this
>>16473681what exploded
>>16473682It lost 30% of it's total performance, only hit its target orbit because it wasn't carrying a real payload, and didn't have any reserve left to perform the deep space maneuvers it was planning to
>>16473683Poor thing
>>16473678holy shit that's so cuteI love rocket yuriCan't wait for the docking and fuel transfer mission!
>>16473698>Rocket yuriThis is an actual genre now? Is there any limit for degenerates in this world
/sfg/ - Space Female General
>>16473702
>>16473699no and noI wish there was more though
>>16473707Hideous
nsf may as well as become a daily live show at this point
>>16473719>using nsf for anything other than starbase live>ever taking a nsf video off muteISHYGDDT
>>16473682A reminder that Cert-2 would have failed if an actual payload, like the Dreamchaser that was originally supposed to have flown, had been on board instead of a small dummy payload.The lost nozzle cost the SRB ~1/4 its total impulse.
>>16473637no wonder BO gets nothing done if they employe insane DEI retards like thisthis can't have been a hire based on merit?
how tanker looks like
>>16473738im more curious about how depot look like
>>16473654lol are you fucking serious
>>16473226i like it a lot
Do ablative heat shields work in ovens or just in situations like reentry where the airstream strips them away?Thinking about wrapping a venus lander in a fat shell of ablative to hopefully buy a few hours.
Inshallah the execution of SLS will be broadcasted live on the internet's public square!
>>16473755this can't be real. There's no way this will actually happen, right? I'm just huffing to much hopium, aren't I? Please, someone clear-minded tell me I'm a retard for believing this.
>>16473755name one government spending that's not space related that Elon will slash funding for: (protip: you can't)
how depot looks like?
>>16473224>>16473215Cybertruck looks less imposing or out of place than I thought it would.Maybe it's all the other fatass pickups you have in US.It's kind of funny how the Model S looks completely bland and normal in EU, but kind of out od place on the road in US because it's a small sedan, but Cybertruck kind of doesn't stick out (as far as proportions go, the shape is still odd).I wish I had a chance to get a close look at one. Maybe next time. Here in the communist block they are still quasi-illegal and cost 10x.
>>16473762Is rural internet space related?
>>16473755> All Old Space employees dragged out of their cubicles and beheaded in the town square.Oh, this could get interesting.So, SLS dead. MSR dead. Anything else at the top of the list?
>>16473682>Launch 1 - shake the payload apart>Launch 2 - use some minimal payload simulation that in no way, shape or form replaces an actual payload, lose shitloads of delta v, only be able to insert in orbit due to how small the payload wasVulcan has launched twice now, both actual failures. Vulcan is a flop.
https://x.com/DOGE/status/1856783252071354727It's official gov account now.
>>16473770Shitposter in Chief.
>>16473755imagine the seethe when JPL gets gutted
>>16473755>leaderboard for most insanely dumb spending of tax dollarsYour thoughts on what will be topping this list?
>>16473770imagine the lawsuits after it's revealed that Elon holds millions in dogecoin
>>16473775Do they even do anything that we need anymore? Rocket Lab came in recently and copied their entire MSR architecture for a fraction the price
>>16473776Israel
>>16473779>Rocket Lab came in recently and copied their entire MSR architecture for a fraction the pricetl;dr me on this, is this about sending up an electron on a starship?
>>16473778So the entire market cap of that shitcoin?
>>16473780no not like this!
>>16473781No. NASA put out a request for alternate MRS proposals and Rocket Lab's a copy of JPL's original design, mars lander, ascent vehicle, earth-return orbiter, just for a fraction of the billions JPL was asking for and with a much better timeline.
>>16473785that's fucking hilarious, is there a PDF?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfo4k5lmBQw>Major OLM Progress! Starbase Flyover Update 65
>>16473784Not even Elon can afford to piss off the banking clan. Remember the last time they thought he went off the plantation and the humiliation tour he was forced through?
>>16473760If you read between the lines, DOGE is a toothless advisory board that can only make "suggestions. It's the political equivalent of giving your little brother an unplugged controller so he thinks he's on the team.
>>16473745the brunette has sex appeal yeah
>>16473790>ALL THESE FUCKING ACRONYMS
>>16473792We'll see. Republicans will be controlling all 3 houses, so they can actually do some slimming down.
>>16473799I'm sure politicians will be in favour of losing their cushy job
>>16473792anyone who thinks Musk has been given any sort of legislative or executive power just doesn't know how the government works
>>16473802No, we know how the government works. We just hate how the government works and are demanding that it work differently, or else
>>16473767both of those are dead all on their own. dont need Elon's help
>>16473267About time he said it out loud, all my tunnel snake niggas already knew this
>>16473793faggot
So there will be a banana zero g indicator in S31's payload bay.
>>16473819no space for it
>>16473755>making the firing of thousands of people and ruining their lives in to a public game showThis sounds like some sort of squid game shit
So what's Flight 7 going to be? Assuming 6 is a complete success
>>16473825orbital and maybe payload or at least dummy payload
>>16473800Bureaucrats and politicians aren't the same. The politicians who put the bureaucrats there won't necessarily be pleased to see them gone. The ones who didn't will be happy to.
>>16473825my guess would be starlink deployment and another expendable starship. Maybe even superheavy reuse.
>>16473819Starship can't handle the added weight right now
>>16473791>Remember the last time they thought he went off the plantation and the humiliation tour he was forced through?No. Remind me.
>>16473829It's okay it'll be weightless once it's in space
>>16473820Kek
>Decades have passed since a space station primary structure has been manufactured in the United States. Vast is changing that. Our Haven-1 qualification primary structure is in its final stage of welding at our HQ facility. Next, the completed structure will go to our Mojave, CA facility for a critical test to demonstrate its ability to handle the pressure and dynamic loads of launch and operation.
>>16473834lots of words to say they don't have anything ready
>>16473819LOL... my phone has a milimeter sized 3 axis accelorometer and yet SpaceX can't inegrate such a simple technology into their rockets... maybe they should hire some Apple engineer for a change.
>>16473834we will mill orthogrids out of plate aluminum until the sun stops shining on the earth
>>16473836>t. nasa dei hire
>>16473837Will this stop with Starship? Especially with a space station that's mostly empty, you could totally just weld up a steel module, right? Assuming it's cheaper than expending a ship to build out
Tianzhou 8/CZ-7 Y9 has been moved to the launch pad, launch Friday 1536 UTCMeanwhile, a Taiyuan launch in a bit under 2 hours, could be a CZ-4B/C or a CZ-6A
>>16473841There's 0 reason to not put everything you want from a space station inside a starship and just use it as is.>expendingNo, just return it whole hog when it's time to go home. Crew, experimental data, dirty socks and everything else.
>>16473830That picture was during his humiliation tour.
>>16473844I wonder if they'll do this. Spend 8 months in LEO with no resupply and then come back. Test the Mars trip
>>16473843
>>16473846to do so the ship will need to look very different. White HLS isnt a meme, they need thermal blankets like on shuttle. It will look cooler that way so im not opposed to it.
>>16473830Urf will pay for this
>Did some math a while back and dual Falcon Heavies can carry Orion to TLI. No in-space stages or ICPS needed. Expendable FH launches with no payload and leaves a partially fueled upper stage in LEO with a docking adaptor. Second FH carries Orion. They dock and boost to the moonhttps://x.com/deltaIV9250/status/1856535501538234662is it really that shrimple?
>>16473851I mean sure, that seems to be the prefered option, although it's maybe better to do that on a New Glenn S2, since it will have a higher launch rate than falcon heavy.
>>16473851No, as rockets are not lego and you can't just put orion on it without shitloads of modification
>>16473853Also NG S2 are already being designed to be "tankers" and independent spacecrafts that can maneuver and dock.
Is SpaceX contractually obligated to not do their own Lunar/Mars landings before they do NASA's?
but what about gateway
>>16473849The thermal environment on a trip to mars will be far harsher than LEO with starship flying through Earth's shadow for part of the orbit.Every item on the checklist that has to be dialed in for the trip to Mars also makes Starship overkill for LEO and Moon ops.
>>16473851or you could refuel a 2nd stage with reused F9 launchesAt that point, why are you sending an orion capsule at all when the HLS is flying seperatelyAnd why are we reenacting the Apollo program decades later when the whole lunar base bullshit setup could be done remotely
>>16473858SpaceX still needs NASA help and they also have to do demonstration landing
>>16473861put it in a HEO that won't be eclipsed >>16473860No more cash for cuckboxes bullshit
>>16473860The what?Did you forget to take your meds anon?
>>16473862>At that point, why are you sending an orion capsule at all when the HLS is flying seperatelyHow do you return?
>>16473867Return?
>>16473867what return?
>>16473867RETVRN?
>>16473865anon, that other anon's objection was starship needing additional insulation, if you put it in HEO or SSO it'll be worse not better
>>16473871the whole point is testing Mars transit conditions jackass.
Would be nice if they have a buoy far enough away that we can see the bellyflop happen from a good angle.
>>16473867You send two Starships on a TLI, one to ferry the crew and another to be used as HLS
>>16473872if you read the chain of replies it starts with the premise of a space station in LEO baka
>>16473873Maybe we will have more footage as it will return during daylight this time
>Debris flyby that took place during USA EVA 84 (Jan 20 2023) near the end of the spacewalk. The SSRMS (Canadarm2) was the only camera that took a video of the event and how it moved from aft to forwardjfc
>>16473877That's what I mean.
>>16473851Feb 2018, day of FH test flight, Elon said you could do a Moon landing with 3 FHs
>>16473875shut up idiot
>>16473878that was some very slow debris. I would think an encounter like that would happen at many times the speed of a bullet.
>>16473878Never happened
Orbital railguns when?
>>16473883Pretty sure flyback means it's something an astronaut dropped.
>>16473886wow, didnt know there was a significant chance of dropped items rendevouzing with the station again like that. If Starship makes space travel 100x cheaper its a matter of time before some social media influencer 'throws a ball around the world'
>>16473885Why use railguns when you could use missiles? Conventional navies turned down railguns for the same reason
>>16473892Because missiles are gay and lame.
>>16473891it would be a cool challenge to catch it when it comes back around
>>16473891>>16473896I think you could make a sport out of this.
Zero G pro wrestling
>>16472903that's spelled with a c
Freefall foxy boxing
>>16473880Which 3?
>100 MW concepts for space radiators operating at 1000K:https://www.osti.gov/biblio/6608507>There's sketches and estimates kW/kg figures for innovative designs like the belt loop and rotating balloon radiators, but the most interesting is the glass filament design that exceeds 67 kW/kghttps://x.com/ToughSf/status/1856743837911151038
>>16473880He's such a faker lol. why doesnt he do it to prove it?
>>16473878>this will only get worse with more starlinksGrim
>>16473267https://x.com/boringcompany/status/1856750432909234401
>>16473911>Elon talking to himself again
>>16473910starlinks dont contribute to space debris since 1: they deorbit themselves with their ion engines at end of life. 2: if they lose contact completely they deorbit in a few years due to atmospheric drag since their in such a low orbit.non issue
>>16473914now we just need adrian dittman to chime in.
>>16473908it would require a really smally lander
The Boring Company wasn't created for Mars, it was created for expeditions to the center of the Earth.
>>16473822"But my feelings!" does not work anymore.
And here some anons used to be adamant that Boring Co. had nothing to do with the Mars project. Awful lot of "I told you so" happening these days.
>>16473854You jest but FH would need some structural mods to handle the mass of a complete Orion spacecraft.
>>16473920Starship isn't a rocket, it's a new kind of propulsive drill. That's why they made it so pointy. The world just isn't ready yet, so they're shooting it up instead of down
>>16473860Gateway exists to give SLS somewhere to go.
>>16473923Some people probably think the Tesla EVs aren't just R&D for low atmosphere jeeps too
>>16473926Gateway exists to give dozens of astronauts and makework science projects somehwere to go. How do you maintain space cooperation with Europoors without an international space station?
>>16473930what europoor rocket can take a capsule to lunar orbit
>>16473932Good point and very short sighted of NASA
Why didn't SpaceX pursue metallic tiles?NASA knew ceramic tiles were a dead end and created metallic tiles for venture star.https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20040095922/downloads/20040095922.pdf
>>16473940Recreating the shuttle tiles but less retarded was the quickest option available to get something working. They will have to R&D something better for Mars and Lunar return but these work for now.
>>16473932SpaceX already flies every European astronaut minus those who fly on Soyuz. America will bus them to the Gateway and hold them as hostages in any future negotiation.
>>16473940Metallic tiles are substantially heavier and extremely expensive.
Why didn't they move the flaps back earlier?
>>16473949No inflight data, dumb dumb.
ain't it strange how other companies decide on the physical design of their rockets before they even start buildingmeanwhile SpaceX just kinda fudges with shit as they go alongReally says a lot
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1856821851256676833>Booster 13 has rolled out of Megabay 1 today and is expected to rollout to the launch complex overnight for upcoming Starship test flight 6 at T-minus 5 days and counting! >11/13/24
>>16473950Why didn’t they have inflight data earlier?
>>16473946I doubt it. Otherwise they wouldnt work on the SSTO Venture Star. (yes it never flew, but NASA did trade studies and concluded it viable)
>>16473920Manned mission to Theia
>>16473952>meanwhile SpaceX just kinda fudges with shit as they go alongOther space agencies have less capital to risk and their reputation is on the line with every test and launch, meanwhile SpaceX has managed to turn the equation inside out and now failures are understood as another form of success.Now it would take a long chain of continous failures before SpaceX is treated like other space companies.
>>16473956>all these american retards who commute in pickup trucks
>>16473957Stop pretending to be retarded
>>16473963bait
>>16473822Maybe they shouldn't have been leeching off of TAXPAYER MONEY
>>16473946PICA was extremely expensive and SpaceX made their own for pennies
anyone got the pic of the cybertruck towing an rvac clobbering a drone?
>>16473858>contractuallyNo. All under the table. The tables have recently turned though
>>16473940The last starship did have a few metallic test tiles on the side, but they melted.
>>16473956>Cyber truck is missing a hub capKek
>>16473989THEY WERE MADE FROM ALUMINUM JACKASS
>>16473993Is aluminum not a metal?
>>16473993everything heavier than helium is a metal
water is metal
>>16473999It has two helium molecules though so it's only one/third metal
>>16473830He had to go see wooden doors with shapiro
drumpfts appointments keep getting crazier and crazier. i rly doubt that gaetz one goes through. leaves me questioning who the fuck hes going to put on the NASA admin, i get hes basically unleashed but need a reasonable pick that actually makes it thru senate is needed (which gaetz 100% doesnt). unless im wrong in that NASA admin needs to be confirmed by senate?
>>16473998Hydrogen is metal in gaseous form
>Scientists blast Elon's controversial Starship tower for dumping millions of gallons of metal into surrounding wildlife reserve.
>>16473392>take this same approach with shartship and it will literally never be safe enough to fly people.>>16473394Is there a starship with a cockpit that some tesla bots and crash test dummies can be strapped in to see how they fare? Of course the coming up launch is too soon and it would look bad if the first test with dummies comes back with watermelons splattered everywhere
>>16474005Hulk Hogan NASA admin
>>16474005>drumpfts appointments keep getting crazier and crazierIs that a good thing or a bad thing?
>>16473956The second successful tower catch will be wild, everyone's seen the first by now but two in a row will prove the first wasn't a fluke.
>>16474009WE'RE GOING TO MARS BROTHER JUST LOOK AT THIS SHINY METAL MISSILE URRRRROOOUUUH
>>16474010bad if you want them to actually be appointed. senate leadership changed but theres only so far you can go before senators in bluer states have to put their foots down to keep their office. and if you put them thru via recess appointments then you have vengeful senators which with only 4 needing to defect to kill any bill is something you dont want.
>>16474015New repub leader is also traitor rino shitcunt who hates the annoying orange
>>16473784Why are WASPs such obedient jewish slaves?
>>16474016he actually knows how to herd cats, hes better than cornyn thats for sure. rick scott is a blumpf loyalist but his record is pretty shit here in FL and he is not good at leading people from when he was in previous leadership positions. generally, thune was the best option we had to actually get things done even if hes not 100% a loyalist. just let vance be the policy advocate (hopefully more focus on space since hes on the national space council by default)
>>16474005>>16474009Imagine this guy appointed NASA administrator.What would be his first action?
>>16474017can you fuck off?
>>16474021No?
>>164740201000% send all nasa funding to ukraine and launch SLS directly at the kremlin. not a single doubt in my mind
>>16474023Zubrin is spineless, he would never do something so based.
>>16474020are you sourcing ideas for your position bobby?
>>16474020Immediate launch of all available vehicles at Moscow and cancellation of starship program unless they build mini starship.
>>16473998take your AIDS elsewhere astroonomer
>>16473989aluminium coated tiles, which melts at the temp stainless starts to fail, to gauge the heating in the areas where catch hardware needs to godata from Fight 5 clearly made SpaceX confident in stainless's ability to handle that level of heating given how S31's TPS was stripped down
>>16473452>when it presents obvious disadvantages?Such as? Isn't aerodynamic important
zoobrine is zased, he hates pootler and invented ministarship. what more could you ask for in an administrator?
>>16474032Not being jewishUnfortunately that disqualifies him
>>16474031>Such as?lower payload volume and weird ass payload bay shape making thepractical internal volume even smaller.And higher peak heating on the nose during reentry.
>>16474033>>>/pol/
>>16474028why did NASA go throughthe rigmarole of developing a whole new suit for artemis instead of using constellation suits?
>>16474030i can't believe it was that easy in rocketry
>>16474035>yes I want my politicians to have dual loyaltyAnd other statements dreamt up by the utterly deranged
>>16474034I think it will eventually be changed to a simple dome top. It will look absolutely heinous but will allow for the header tank space to be properly utilised, payload bay not a retarded mess and simpler re entry. Tradeoff will be worse aerodynamics during initial stage of launch in thick atmo but improving superheavy will counter this. Yeah. eseffgee gonna hate it.
>I want politiciansyou don't belong here pal
Hypothetically, could you hide a spaceship in the core of a planetary body? Or is being at the center of a planet not actually going to result in weightlessness?
>At 6:42 on November 14, 2024, the ocean salinity detection satellite Haiyang-4 01 was launched by the Long March 4B Y53 carrier rocket at the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center. The launch mission was a complete success.>This mission is the 545th launch of the Long March series of carrier rockets and the final launch of the Long March 4 series of carrier rockets in 2024.>The satellite is equipped with payloads such as a comprehensive aperture radiometer and active and passive detectors>After being launched into orbit, it can fill the gap in my country's high-precision global ocean salinity detection capabilities, improve China's ability to obtain data on marine dynamic environmental factors, and enhance the accuracy and quality of China's marine forecast products>It can meet the business needs of marine environmental forecasts, marine ecological forecasts, water cycle monitoring, short-term climate forecasts, and global climate change research, and take into account soil moisture measurements, providing supporting data for marine industry applications and related industry applications such as agriculture and rural areas, disaster reduction, and meteorology, forming application product capabilities.
>>16474042>>16473964
>>16474043Launch patch, that one had gridfins for a controlled crash.
>>16474043I sometimes worry how much information can be extracted from a country's activity that goes beyond just straight up optical/Infra/SAR photos
>>16474047You fuck
>>16474046The three you mentioned allowed for pretty much all the eye of sauron shit you could ever want. Only other thing I could think is a giant fuck off phased array receiver for snooping on any kind of EM communications. I wonder if that can be SAR dual purpose even? Really looking forward to the global kill grid constellations monitoring every single moving thing on the planet in real time and feeding it back to nascent AIs.
>>16473472>Seeing a lot of comments saying nothing is going to happen with DOGE>I think the first layoffs need to hit before it really starts to sink in for most peopleThe nature of economy, the infinite types of jobs, varying levels and groupings of complexities, is very unlike any economy on earth before, when for 1000s of years there were like only 1000s of possible jobs, now there are millions or billions, Coupled with the increase post industrial revolutions, post computer age, post automated factories, post ai, of mechanical efficiency making human operation inefficient or redundant: The nature of economy now, and in the future is strange.X amount of people are fired from government jobs, what can they possibly do, go on unemployment, get jobs elsewhere. What when more and more people, less and less jobs available, andor less qualified people for them. For people who don't have jobs, how do they know what field or job to pursue? You fire 20,000 or more government workers, they go on unemployment? They have pensions? Unemployment then government just paying people to not work,
https://x.com/sen/status/1856752049465041407>Our cameras filmed a flyby of an object below the ISS. Any guesses what it could be?
>>16474052They can go pick cotton as restitution to the American people for the countless amount of dollars they have sucked out of the peoples pockets with their parasitic uselessness.
>>16474054chinese spysat
>>16473483>The reason it hasn't achieved much is because almost none of that $42B has been deployed yet. The program has so far mostly been stuck in bureaucracy and approvals processesThe linked website said 45bil+ has already been awarded or given or whatever.
>>16474052>X amount of people are fired from government jobs, what can they possibly doGet marched into the sea.
>>16474054one of the millions of random LEO objects
>>16474058the government doesn't pay you up front for shit
>>16474050>feeding it back to nascent AIs.Project Maven seemed to work along that line, is just that is filled with a shitload of secrecy, so it is hard to separate the system from the legend.But I was thinking about things like of finding the relationship between things like salinity, cloud formation or air composition and say, levels of industrial activity or the kind of products that a factory could be outputting.
>>16474020something about tiny "starships" and midget astronauts, then gets institutionalized
>>16474054UFO
https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1856725762130260383I really do think the water purity thing was the final nail in the coffin to make Elon go all in
>>16473567>They're probably scared of losing it in the drink as it lands. They should drop something into the lake on purpose though, just to see what's down there.>>16473605With current state of the art drone technology and gopro with wifi. Why don't these observation craft have like 1000 drones and gopros bought from Walmart to just swarm out in all directions when approaching, in a play the odds attempt to get the most data/visuals as possible for these Uber expensive rare journeys?
>>16474020SLS is canceled and NASA begins immediate devlopment of a real Shuttle-derived launch vehicle
>>16474068retard
>>16473468It's unexpected how following spaceflight has been good for my personal growth because you see people that are living breathing cautionary talesI think it's just impossible for me to be a hater because I've seen how it ends too many times.
>>16474068So I guess Vivek will serve as the political guy who navigates the legal side of things while Elon is more into the technical side of things, what regulations to cut, and what to fire.
>>16474073I dont know what it is called, but the particular obscure ares version with the hydrogen drop tanks was so cool
Quickly counting>R7 familly launch success streak record is 146 in the early 90s. >"old gen Long march" had a 131 orbital launches success streak , + 2 transatmospheric launches between 2020 and 2024, last failure was an optional YZ-1S kick stage partial failure (satellites still reached correct orbit), chinks don't consider it as a Long march failure tho; if you're being generous 156+2 success>If you're being this generous (Old gen CZ have quite different S1, even if they use the same tech and engines, also made by 2 different companies) you may as well consider Atlas familly's 174 launch streak since 1993 (the one partial failre in 2007 was salvaged)
>>16473451>major contrats to elon + an apointee job to elonWait elon got a major contract since the election? What was it? Also when did doge become a real government appointment? It's a civilian role to give your opinion to the budget office
>>16473435>shareholder lunch starship
>>16474044Fuck you.
>>16474078Vivek is 100% running the day-to-day with elon coming in during manic periods to draft up all the bullshit that's been bothering him for the last few decades of business
>>16473956They make it look so easy
>>16474091>autism-fueled rampages
>>16474096The best kind
>>16473614>The government has been hiding something about UFOsMost likely it is:Public, there might be UFOs, we think there might be, we require this amount of money to build satellites and aircraft and radar and such to investigate the ufo phenomenon
>>16473956where is the 24m variant?
>>16473755It is kind of cool to use platform x as a quasi-ish form of direct democracy, on challenge is bots
>>16473998My autistic ass is annoyed at the fact that non-metals are called... nonmetals. Why not creating a new original name for them?
>>16474109>It is kind of cool to >>16474109>It is kind of cool to use platform x as a quasi-ish form of direct democracy, only challenge is botsFuture step is everyone registers there social security number to their verified smart phone account and voting platform to literally have every citizen directly vote on things in real time.Only problem is not every individual has all relevant info off hand, which is the source of the convention of debates and representative leaders, back to Rome, orators and senators and Cicero. Representatives perform their debates and rhetoric to their local publics in ads and campaign trails to represent them. It does bring up a lot of questions. What percentage of things should every American citizen have a direct vote on, if the tech exists to make that easily possible.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cM2uSpC8rMtime to check out some uninformed takes presenting themselves as informedis there any actually good video on realistic space warfare? not the submarines shooting lasers across the solar system at each other, but stuff for the next 100 years.
>>16474054venus
>>16474103If you watched it, you will know it goes deeper. Really credible people are testifying before congress, and leaking extraordinary things. There are sightings of incredible technology all the time that defy physics, and also interact and react, even threaten and pursue our pilots, and actively monitor high sensitivity sites (military and nuclear) with great preference. Then there are the sworn claims of recovered said advanced tech, and even some biological specimens (alien bodies). But it seems to be ultra advanced AI drones and not biological, for the most part.These sightings are real, and they MUST be declassified, not stigmatize reporters both civilian and military, and find out what the hell is going on. We have a right to know, or at least study it, for real this time. This is a REAL danger, if they are here, and fucking with us.
https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1856854759074054468
>>16474109>>16474115Then again there is the fact, and this is a strong aspect of American history, policy, government spending, taxes. Not every American pays the same amount of taxes.Should there be a proportionality of votes according to amount of taxes paid? Again, people can be dumb and arbitrary, and pay a lot of taxes, can they vote to use their share of taxes to blow up a big balloon full of confetti and pop it over a field? It's often said the largest companies and richest avoid taxes, as a kind of payment for them, for providing x amount of jobs, that generate y amount of commerce, and z amount of employees who are taxed.
>>16474120i aint never seen a ufo video that thunderf00t didnt sucesfully debunk.
>>16474116Laser tech has been making massive strides and showing no signs of stopping. Missiles in space stand 0 chance in the future, especially since atmospheric dispersion is not an issue and you can plink them from a million miles out. Given the limitations of railguns needing regularly replaced heavy as fuck and expensive barrels, as well as the visibility of everything in space, frankly I see the future being pointing lasers at each other until the enemy cooks. Easy to point your laser at a cunt from 999999 miles away while their .01c railguns cant hit shit as you shuck and jive. Whoever has the best heat dispersion and most efficient laser system wins. Sounds mega gay and cringe which is why it's going to happen.
>>16474121shai-hulud ass
>>16474116>16 mins in>little of value said>ctrl+w
>>16474121>Confidentialuh huh, pull the other oneIt's fucking Bezos
>>16474128>>16474116How does this milkdud narrate forso many big goyslop channels?
>>16474121>2026reminder that haven-1 is going up mid next year.
speaking of vasthttps://x.com/vast/status/1856799637887488125>Decades have passed since a space station primary structure has been manufactured in the United States. Vast is changing that. Our Haven-1 qualification primary structure is in its final stage of welding at our HQ facility. Next, the completed structure will go to our Mojave, CA facility for a critical test to demonstrate its ability to handle the pressure and dynamic loads of launch and operation.final stages of welding is crazy, hopefully they post those pressure tests
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1856856980591431984>Liftoff at 22:42UTC on November 13, Long March 4B Y53 launched a Ocean Salinity Observing Satellite (Haiyang-4-01) from Taiyuan
>>16473669Possibly a ftm? They get some test and chimp out from not having a benis. Man-made horror-comedy beyond our comprehension.
>>16474136>The first stage is equipped with grid fins to mitigate the impacts on possible landing area
does ANYBODY care about chink f9 ripoffs if they dont land? i know i certainly dont.
>>16474136>chinese have red exhaust>spacex has blue exhaustindia is going to have brown exhaust arent they...
>>16474132i bet it won't
>>16474052literally all they need to do is change hiring/firing/raise requirements. they don't need to cut any money, just inject it with something resembling a free market. realistically all that will result from this is cutting money and regulation without increasing efficiency. people will get hurt and our systems will work worse
>>16474073>SLS is canceled and NASA begins immediate devlopment of a real Shuttle-derived launch vehicleNASA should stop wasting money in launch vehicles, start making nuclear engines and giant spaceships to be launched with Starship and assembled in orbit.
>>16474142But they do land.
>>16473834>milled grids
if orion is forced to launch on falcon heavy then dragon should be forced to launch on new glenn
>>16473878Is the graniness an artifact or reality? And that stripped blue pattern above their head
>>16474158whats wrong with it? thats weight saving
>>16474081this one?
>>16473961Elon is going to Argatha
>>16474160Orion on new glenn
>>16474164the one with shuttle external tanks as drop tanks for the 1st stage
>>16473915>they deorbit themselves with their ion engines at end of lifeHow long they last, and don't alot of com sats function pretty long
>>16474169they may be up there for a while, but their orbits are tracked and they can dodge debris. debris is only a problem when its un controlled.
>>16473915>if they lose contact completely they deorbit in a few years due to atmospheric drag since their in such a low orbit.What about the other shells?
>>16473940>Why didn't SpaceX pursue metallic tiles?What kind of metal? Was it thought ceramic does something better, heat transfer or something, or weight situation
>>16474154https://www.researchgate.net/publication/4702054_Mars_Direct_A_Simple_Robust_and_Cost_Effective_Architecture_for_the_Space_Exploration_Initiative>While the Mars Direct architecture can be initiated solely with the use of chemical propulsion, it is particularly amenable to the introduction of nuclear thermal rockets (NTR) as soon as that technology becomes available. The reason for this is that the Ares launch vehicle can deliver NTR stages directly to a nuclear safe (700 km) orbit, and the architecture involves no LEO infrastructure positioned below this orbit. In addition, the modest size, mass, and per-unit cost of NTR engines makes NTR the advanced propulsion technology of choice for use in the expendable Mars Direct mode. Such expendable utilization would be unthinkable for multi-MW nuclear electric propulsion (NEP) units, for example, the mass of which are typically an order of magnitude larger than NTRs.>In keeping with the overall approach of the Mars Direct architecture, then, namely the elimination of the need for orbital infrastructure, NTR technology is incorporated into the plan simply as a third stage to the Ares launch vehicle. Such a configuration is shown in Fig. 10. The NTR stage has a specific impulse of 900s, a power of 900 MWth, and a thrust of 45,000 lb. With the addition of this stage the Ares can throw 70 metric tons on to a minimum energy trans-Mars injection trajectory (C3=15), an increase of about 50% over the 47 metric ton TMI all-chemical Ares baseline.>The performance of the NTR augmented Ares is limited by the fact that the NTR must be fired from LEO, and the baseline 2 stage Ares vehicle is not optimized for LEO delivery, as with 250,000 lb thrust its second stage is under powered. (The 250 klb thrust is optimized for direct trans-Mars injection.) If the thrust of the second stage is increased, the LEO delivery capability can be increased, and the TMI throw also increased accordingly.
>>16474174Go home dr. zubrin, the supper bell is ringing at the old folk’s home
>>16474169The official figure getting thrown around is 5 years and the oldest ones on station are actually 5 years old (give or take a few days).The lower they fly the pricier station keeping is, other comsats (you're thinking of GEO) only compensate for drift, starlinks have to overcome drag on top of that and orbit raising and lower to phase into the correct plane after launch.Which is all besides the point since their development cycles are shorter than their on orbit lifetime. Laser interconnects were worked in as an upgrade, then direct to cell and after starship starts flying full sized ones, other customers will want hosted payloads so they'll keep getting replaced as they fall victim to scope creep.
>>16474039>I think it will eventually be changed to a simple dome top. It will look absolutely heinous but will allow for the header tank space to be properly utilised, payload bay not a retarded mess and simpler re entry. Tradeoff will be worse aerodynamics during initial stage of launch in thick atmo but improving superheavy will counter this. Yeah. eseffgee gonna hate it.Has there been any legit consideration of that? You think if so, it will roll out over successive flights losing thinness each time, to determine the merits of shape? Or may consensus be now no change really is intended or needed?
>>16473681>>16473769>>16473733if that was Dreamchasers flight realistically what could Sierra Nevada have done to save at least the spaceplane portion?Fuck though imagine being a Dreamchaser/Sierra employee watching that launch knowing that could've been your fucking launch ruined
>>16473702love this artist so much, space yuri peak
VGH SO MVCH SOVL
>>16473702remove the skanks and its a great image.
>>16474189this anon is homosexual
>>16474181>consensus be now no change really is intended or needed?they arent focused on the payload volume or mass reduction right now so havent given it much thought. if the nose was a dome then the forward flaps wouldnt have even had the burnthrough on the v1 ships.moving the flaps backward is a silly workaround which solves one problem but makes it even harder to have a payload bay door on that curved nose surface.once they get serious about integrating a payload bay door then they will suddenly have the genius idea to make the ship dome topped so the door can have hinges on a straight surface like shuttle. they will also be able to move the forward flaps back to where they were on the v1 ships.
>>16474174> namely the elimination of the need for orbital infrastructureLets do our silly mars destination apollo program in a single launch because we are autistic and only care about boots & flags
>>16474181>Has there been any legit consideration of that? There's a joe rogan clip where Elon says he wants it pointy because of the dictator movie, not a joke, acknowledges aero effects are negligible. Bet he is regretting that.
>>16474040you will never get rid of politicians, you merely replace them
>>16474070>With current state of the art drone technology and gopro with wifi. Why don't these observation craft have like 1000 drones and gopros bought from Walmart to just swarm out in all directions when approaching, in a play the odds attempt to get the most data/visuals as possible for these Uber expensive rare journeys???Why doesn't every launched probe or fly by visualizer whatever, have 1000s of mini-ish cheapish drones it drops to swarm out across the surface with video cameras that can send back the feed?
space is hard stop asking questions
https://x.com/nvslive/status/1856864625826181446>[1 hour left] 2024.11.14 11:00~ Launch of the S-520-34 Sounding Rocket. We will be live streaming the launch of the "Liquid Propellant Rotating Detonation Engine System Flight Demonstration Experiment," which was postponed due to the earthquake. >Outline of the experiment [Liquid Propellant Rotation Detonation Engine System Flight demonstration experiment]>Based on the success of the space demonstration of the Detonation Engine System (DES)* on the observation rocket S-520-31, the objective is to develop a rotating detonation engine system (DES2) using liquid fuel (ethanol) and oxidant (liquefied nitrous oxide), and to actually operate it in space and evaluate its propulsion performance.Large-capacity data (digital images) acquired during the operation of DES2 is collected by the onboard inflatable data recovery system (RATS2).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7iCbxtSVPE
>>16474068>water purity thingWhat water purity thing There is nothing more important than the purity of a mans precious vital fluids
>>16473662yeah, this is extreme TDS lol
>>16474168I've been scanning all over different post-shuttle era projects but i cant find this, sounds cool though. Kinda like NLS-1 minus the STMEs on the strap on cores?
KWAB
>>16473760it's just going to be another implementation of the office of the inspector generalunironically just another wasteful redundant department
>>16474207sure enough this guy has an animation of onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xiWn4n8JE
ermmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm who asked
>>16474120All these occurancces many occur near military bases? Wouldn't think there would be a lot of clear security cameras getting good views of the area, and not one clear zoomed enhanced video of ufo ever?
>>16474211love Haze Grey. Stupid ass design though
>>16474188>Elon Musk's vision for Deimos, aspirationally completed by 2017
fuck you
>>16474216it would've worked incredibly if the SRBs weren't so heavy
>>16474161Are you a little slow?
>>16474219Do you really want to?
>>16474223Weirdo
>>16474208>democrat propaganda machine: trust us bro
>>16474225>DURRRR ITS FROM DUH DEMONRATS IT CANT BE TRUE MUH LIBTURDSyou realize most info you get is from dems right
I like Ceres
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1856522880143745133>1.1M ViewsHow??? This is Bergers highest ever impression btw
>>16474125What they use magnifying glasses, how beam so much laser power so far through atmos? Or chills in orbit, then descends using laser as falling?
>>16474226You lost
>>16474005>leaves me questioning who the fuck hes going to put on the NASA admin,It's going to be brilliant pebbles anon
>>16474121>More Virginia launchesI'll try to get us some up close footage.
>>16474211In trying to find info about that config. of Jupiter I found this document (doi:10.2514/6.2007-6231) JWST took so fucking long to launch back in 2007 they're like "yeah yknow JWST will launch soon and you'll need to service it eventually and we could do that which Ares I couldn't (p. 63)
>>16473861>>16473865>>16473871going into shadow doesn't really matter, being in LEO is hotter than being in a HEO or interplanetary at 1 AU due to radiated heat from the earth occupying half of the freaking horizon
>>16474228really? hasn't elon replied to or quoted him at some point?
>>16474228>1.1m viewsAll me
>>16474234found it: doi:10.2514/6.2006-7517p. 42
thank you
>>16474227look at all the free real estate
>>16474123>Again, people can be dumb and arbitrary, and pay a lot of taxes, can they vote to use their share of taxes to blow up a big balloon full of confetti and pop it over a field?This is where the power of the (united) people come in, 50x wealthy tax payers want money spent on this, 10000x public at large contributes y amount of dollars, how clear is their say on what they want it spent on. What are the options and limits of options
>>16474238unironic KSP design
>>16474151>people will get hurt and our systems will work worseHow do you, would you overall assess the state of the nationWhat are some major issues, and what are some major methods of fixing them
>>16474222No, very
>>16474151You're fired!
Will martians have their own version of ebonics?
>>16474252Belters
>>16474246"We're gonna take the Ares V motors, and tweakscale them 50% bigger! that'll do"same thrust as a raptor 2 with an extra 30-40 sec isp?
>>16474252No we won't be taking niggers to mars
>>16474184
Ayo mang we gotta be droppin dat rog on dem urfers frfr
>>16474192screencapped
>>16474252It will probably be the opposite. Martians will speak what will be considered an archaic form of English and their language wil be the closest living example to how we spoke, meanwhile what is considered formal language on Earth will be like Jamaican patois today.
gay rocket scientist extraordinaire genderless with a hint of girl, just gaying in her gay wayst4t sapphic
>>16474264>average spitterer be like
space househttps://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1015-Fantasy-Dr-Davenport-FL-33896/351952944_zpid/
>>16474200>1000s of mini-ish cheapish drones it drops to swarm out across the surface with video cameras that can send back the feed?Is it feasible (what are the coming up desired planet/moon imaging missions?) To have video camera drones (100 to 1000 or so) be self controlled and send back video feed? Or self controlled drones would be very improbable, and sending back stream of video feed from 1000 drones would be improbable? The mother ship fly by'er, opens the hatch, drops her babes, they swarm in all directions: each of them sends 2 streams of audio visual feed for playing the odds redunancy, 1 to the mother ship and 1 feed to Earth or earth satellites.Scale from 1 to 1,000,000 how expensive/difficult would that be? (2 answers, expensive scale? Difficulty scale?
the bot is back
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>>16474270he's not a bot dude, he's chill. Probably got banned when the janny was banning everyone for posting about the election.
>>16474266its like an alien's idea of a space house. just terrible wall art etc.
>>16474227Craters are from asteroid strikes, is it thought the material disintegrates on impact, or are there asteroids buried under crater sites?
>>16474266while I remember space camp fondly, I don't think I'd want to live there forever. It is difficult to even tell what's happening in these pictures. So much wall art and so many props
>>16474271I know who's bio this is. Funny watching them go mask off that being gay is more important to them than space ever was.
>>16474278You have to post fuck yous that make sense anon
>>16474280NTA but I post fuck yous as a bookmark.
>>16474279they're deleting their twitter too apparentlyspace trannies in shambles rn after Elon/Trump's win (Bigly)
>>16474270>the BUGS are back
>>16474192The payload bay door appears to be on the side of ship, not nose
>>16474279>i wont support spaceX anymore or retweet them or feel any joy ever again watching Starship because SpaceXs owner is transphobe/right-wingerLike how is that SpaceX's fault lol, why are trannies so bad at nuance and so melodramatic, good riddance
i'll post fuck you when i please niggerfuck you
fuck you?
>>16474269>The mother ship fly by'er, opens the hatch, drops her babes, they swarm in all directions: each of them sends 2 streams of audio visual feed for playing the odds redunancy, 1 to the mother ship and 1 feed to Earth or earth satellites.>Scale from 1 to 1,000,000 how expensive/difficult would that be? (2 answers, expensive scale? Difficulty scaleEventually this will be done but each drone will have its own hatch full of bio materials and others to experimentally seed the planets, with tracker in the mix so the location can be checked at a later date
>>16474264
>>16474281I fuck you post as well but it has to make sense
no fuck you
>>16474266This is amazing! I wish I could live there
>>16474121it's fucking Kuiper isn't it
>>16474293Kys
>>16474281>>16474291>the fuck-you poster is more than 1 personwell, now my entire worldview is destroyed. what else, are you all unironic earthers as well?
>>16474235from the forbidden centaur LEO propellant depot paper:>Summary of LEO thermal environment>Solar Radiation: 429.2 BTU/hr/ft^2/degF>Earth's IR lllumination: 70.2 BTU/hr/ft^2/degF>Earth's IR Eclipse: 35.1 BTU/hr/ft^2/degFAccording to this being in low orbit ranges from at worst 16% higher flux and at best 91% lower flux than being in deep space or HEO, in permanent sunlight, at Earth's altitude.If earth's emitted power were anywhere near the sun's even for a horizon to horizon coverage it wouldn't god damn be so cold at night would it.
kill your shit?
>>16474291Sometimes a bunch of e*rthers post while I am getting the captcha doneThe fuck do you want from mefuck you
>>16474296yes and we should Eartherise (earth rise) all the planets in Sol
>>16474302GrimVerification not required
>>16474301>we should Eartherise (earth rise) all the planets in Solmore like Erase insteadfuck the s*l system
>>16474304
>>16474303fuck you
Is there such a thing as a terravator
>>16474306you can't @ someone when fuck you posting idiot.learn the rules of the game.
>>16474314>terraformed mercuryholy memeplanet
>terraformpostingDon't get me started, you've been warned.
>>16474188>square buildings in vacuum
>>16474233Anon you gotta clean it up anon pls
>>16473434but he's a chumbud from /vt/ tho
>>16474319why don't we do this?
>>16473792
>>16474323no streams gonna do that to a nigga
>>16474333We can't.... we frogot how
>>16474333You'd have to do it at night.
>>16474320>he thinks its in a vacuum
I can tell you everything about rockets except what a centaur is. What the hell is that
>>16474342its a human and a horse combined
>>16474306>ywn walk through the warm wet forests of terraformed Venus >ywn experience the genetically engineered flora softly glowing through the four month long nightFreeze me in a block of ice and lock it away for a millennia
>>16474345im going to say something and it starts with an R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfu8VxWVeYIStarlink launch in 8 min
ruck you
>>16474269If someone smart reads this please respond
>>16474275>Craters are from asteroid strikes, is it thought the material disintegrates on impact, or are there asteroids buried under crater sites?This too, if anyone smart happens to know the answer, thanks
woosh
STUFF FALLING OFF
Today is the 55th anniversary of SCE to AUX
Isn't giving Elon a government position problematic in terms of finance ethics given that SpaceX receives funding from the government? Kind of becomes a conflict of interest no?
>>16474365The technology is there to make 1000 Ingenuity’s, we just dont have the infrastructure for all that data. The DSN is already overloaded and adding 1000 video feeds that are constantly running with the newest specs would mean that almost none of the data youre getting can come back. Doing this would require massive upgrades and overhauls to the current network which nobody wants to pay for until SpaceX gets everything ready for the colonization process at which point you can just have people explore or with ground drones instead. Also reconnaisance orbiters get all the important data you want requiring far less anyways. Project overall would require massive upgrades to data transfer (expensive), construction of bleeding edge copters perfectly designed for Mars that wouldnt last very long like rovers do, and will be unneeded within a short time period. Its not the most expensive or unfeasible process, but still redundant and improbable so I’ll rate it a 50,000. Im assuming this is for Mars, different for other planets.
>>16474369Its called ice
>>16474378Silence, you!
>>16474369>>16474382fairing plugs
>>16474151>just inject it with something resembling a free marketTwitter was also free market doesn't mean it's efficient.The real question is if any of the military will fall under doge as well. Apart from ss and Medicare it's the next most expensive thing in the budget
>>16474378Since when did Trump care about optics? As far as his administration goes, Elon's position is hardly the most controversial.
>>16474116>is there any actually good video on realistic space warfare?Some basic fundamentals about orbital mechanics and the relevance of launch site locations is a good place to start.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmFb-4KVG4Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIXiK41yl_w
>>16474227Ceres deserves to be with Mars. Those tiny asteroids aren't shit compared to ceres.
>>16474380No wasn't thinking of Mars, was thinking other planets anons are always talking about wishing more images, only reason you couldn't use off shelf drones slightly modded would be need to custom mod it to work in target atmosphere? I'm saying one of those fly by missions to this or that planet or moon, cheap drone tech is abundant, a/v feed can be sent back to fly by mothercraftImagine 1000 drones flying around earth recoding HD a/v of different locations... but on all the other planets
>>16474378No, its just an advisory role to cut across all of the gov, not about contractual fundings
>>16474378No, fuck off
>>16473649he's got pretty smooth arms though
>>16474001>It has two helium molecules though so it's only one/third metal
>>16474419Typical mudslime mentality
How will the SpaceX board of directors respond to the growing calls for independence from the motherland due to rising taxation and governmental overreach on Martian soil?
wtf>https://x.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1856950984980738082
>>16474441>it's real
Multiple launches per day almost every day now
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1856893117686816917Starlink for Cuba?
>>16474454At what point do we simply stop tracking every single launch? Not like we track each and every plane taking off.
>>16474457People will still track it, but for /sfg/ most dont care about normal F9 launches now. We do care about the special launches. When we get weekly Starship flight, that will happen the same too.
>>16474458wrong starship flights are much more sovl, plus inspace docking.
>>16474461So they say with F9 and Falcon Heavy
>>16474462no they didnt. also what else would there to be to look forward to then other than special starship missions (which would then also become far more common)?
>>16473963It's Texas, what did you expect? There, you either get a big car or get run over.
>>16474457I yearn for the day the goblina and the other dickheads vacate the webcasts, all the tourists fuck off and i can go be the foamer equivalent of spaceflight I always wanted to be.
>>16474468Expand on this.
a little under 50 days until we reach the best year for spaceflight ever. its going to be so fucking hype bros
>>16474468>>16474469Shuttle-era NSF was like this>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnFfQkTHOWg
>>16474441any bets who will it be for real?My money is on William Gerstenmaier>inb4 Jim Bridenstine>inb4 Gwynne Shotwell
>>16474469I have had it up to here hearing the diverse, multicultural, mystery meat latinx bumbling over her own words and talking over mission control exactly, the same, way, every, single, time. Every, single, flight. For 300 flights in a row. You stupid cunt with your ass out.Shut the fuck up.That shit flies with such surgical precision never beheld by man you can put its flight plan into your phone and it'll spit out the 20 meter window on the ground where you need to park to see it transit the moon. You have that shit printed out on a timeline down to the second. The callouts happen every, single, time. At exactly, the same, time. And you can't after 300 times doing this shit get clued in as to when you need to shut the cunting fuck up and let the mission control audio come through. Her voice is like flossing my cranium ear through ear with barbed wire.I am tired of hearing vaguely factual variations of what max q means while mission control interrupts you to call out max q, every, single, flight, cunt. Shut the fuck up and let me hear the rocket. At least the dude has the presence to shut the fuck up when there isn't anything to say.Early SpaceX youtube where they had a hosted webcast and a technical webcast were the golden age.This company can pluck a flying grain silo out of midair but cannot beat 2010 era justin tv production quality it is beyond the pale. Put the rocket on the screen and mic so i can hear the turbines, and a cam in the lox tank like the good old days and play classical over the coast and lock the latina out of mission control and I'll be eternally grateful. You cunts
>>16474487And starlink webcasts are the comfiest experience currently. I am so glad they fucked off out of starlink launches at least and dread the possibility they'll cease coverage entirely.I just want them to stop cutting right after SECO 1.>yes i want to watch 40 minutes of a nozzle extension cooling over Mozart thank you
>>16473215i forget how primitive and ramshackle boca felt 5 years ago. like orks building a spaceport
>>16474473kek, that video smells like 2005
>>16474005the senators and congressmen who get in the way are going to become targetsMusk has vowed to finance the campaigns of opponents in their districtsthis is a unprecedented mandate, don't get in the fucking wayafter the government is reformed then I would guess Musk loses a bit of interest (though supposedly America PAC is going to keep going in some form), but these things need to happen now
>>16474020zubrin absolutely despises Trump
>>16474015which is worse, a vengeful senator or vengeful voters?
>>16474052they get a fucking job just like everyone else (or go on unemployment if they prefer that)
>>16474506its 16 years ago which is apparently 2008 now.
>>16474125ships are going to be cooking each other lmao
>>16474496It still is orcs. Do you not know how many beaners make up SpaceX?
>>16474516He seems to despise the democrat party leadership more lately. Still not as bad as his Putler seethe but that election REALLY fucked with his view on his party.
>>16474518Senator when you have 2 years to accomplish goals. Being an incumbent in this day and age is an inherrent disadvantage so either way youre fucked, theyd rather be petty. Most of these vengeful senators are in states that wont vote them out either like Kentucky.
>>16474266>we are *not* going
>>16474307this needs to happen
>>16474319lmao
Why does spaceguy5 always get into like 50 long chain reply arguments. Every time I check his page he ticks me off even more.
>>16474487based
>>16474531Musk should buy Kentucky
>>16474541he is probably autistic
>>16474544There are some parts of the spectrum that need to be blocked off.
>>16473235You can minimize the inefficiency of the government by minimizing the government, which is what the DOGE will do.
>>16473770https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856946632618557797don't see anything relating to Musk overseeing his welcome, to the contrary actuallyseems to be cope
>>16474558https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1856898430410326283>President Trump is working late into the night tonight at Mar-a-Lago with @elonmusk by his sidehttps://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856947186585510382>Lovely dinner
>>16474473This video is a goldmine desu>Boomer Powerpoint slideshow>SSME-watch as the precursor of today's Raptor watch>Ares-coaster>Babby concept sketch pic related>The exact same Mars deep space mockups>Orion boilerplate that ended up launching 10 years later>Topped off by epic movie soundtrack
>>16474558*overstaying
>>16474560https://x.com/margommartin/status/1856880252615610474
>>16474227Why don't we push Ceres into Mars orbit so it finally has a proper moon?
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Does /sfg/ have good taste?
>>16474571Neptune number one.
Still holding at partly cloudy and 24% precipitation
>>16474441>Not Wernher von Kermanngmi
>>16474571>no MarsYIKES
It’s so funny to me that most of the CSM / Lunar Module names were serious—such as Aquarius, Endeavour, IntrepidMeanwhile john young and gene cernan were like>anyways here is the CSM Charlie Brown
>>16474441Yup, I’m thinking this “rich new buyer” of the KSP IP is indeed Elon
>>16474600what?lmao
>>16474600Elon does not splurge money on shit that doesn't support the mission.
>>16474611You don’t see the vision
>>16473702Imagine the coriolis
>>16474596How did they get away with it? It would be like naming it Dragon Yotsuba or Starship Geso
>>16474616The silent generation was simply enthralled by charlie brown and snoopy
>>16474205I think he meant the deluge system that ESGhound freaked out about cause they accidentally converted mercury to the same unit.
>8 launches away from tying last year's total number of launchessoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfo4k5lmBQw
>>16474626
>>16474558and all you have to do to get him to go anyway is to rein in the FAA and let him launch shit already, then he goes back to the boca
>>16474521>they get a fucking job just like everyone else (or go on unemployment if they prefer that)A new city needs to be built, so all the hard to find job laborers, all the un and under employed, all the anxious and uncertainy, all those who play video games 9 hours a day but feel they might not actually want to, all the meek and downtrodden and weary or whatever it is masses, need a new start, to be a part of the welcoming construction of a burgeoning haven, to see in what way they may be able to help. Of course that's a bit outlandish, only the absolute top of the shelf strongest and smartest are able and needed to build cities, anything less would be slow, dangerous, and in the way, so I suppose it would be partly for them once completed. But who knows. I've in passing mentioned a disruptive for many lucrative for many idea, and the power of its possible impact is scary, in relation to the lack of infinite freedom earth being distantly akin to a prison, and knowing how ethnicities operate in prison, and knowing that America is a microcosm of the world.
How is he taking the news?
>>16474656in denial
>>16474656Its not news, its rumor.
any hints of who the next nasa admin could be?
>>16474656Denial. He says a Trump/Musk regime will HELP SLS.If he's right and they somehow get it launching 5x a year for 300mil a launchthen it wont be bad for what it is, but I don't see it.
>>16474673How will trump and musk help sls? At the rate it's going artemis 2 won't launch before 2027 and that'll probably be uncrewed because of orions heat shield issues. Theres jist no way trump gets boots on the moon before his term is up if he sticks with sls and he can't get the funds to do something faster without canceling it.
mike drop.
>>16474693>elon hasn't inspired people
>>16474693This billionaire Elon whining is to distract you from the fact that, having a non shit exec matters for the outcome, actually. It's the exact opposite of what they're shilling. How many stories of great workers getting fucked by bad exec decisions that ultimately doom the company?
>>16474616https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_10#Call_signs_and_mission_insigniatl;dr: Apollo 10 was lower profile than 11, pun, Snoopy was already linked to the space program and everybody knew Peanuts(funfact, the first French sat was named Astérix)
>>16473351Uranium is created in supernovas which are a kind of solar power
Is Trump going to tire of Musk? I'm scared bros
>>16474706I'm more worried that Starship will fail and we'll be stuck.
>>16474673Boeing is desperate to divest from spaceflight altogether, is he paying attention at all? And SLS is killing itself. By the time it is even available and capable of doing Artemis 3 or 4, Starship will be matured
>>16474704Solar is nuclear power with extra steps rather
>>16474712>>16474712>>16474712
>>16474698>>16474693The term Organizing Prinicple comes to mind but I seriously don't know where I've heard it before, sometimes you read something once and it lingers in your head, is that a term in use
>>16473762Department of EducationAutomaker subsidiesIRS
>>16474704>>16473351When nuclear fusion occurs, the benefit is that it releases energy to capture, what type of energy does it release?
>>16474707>I'm more worried that Starship will fail and we'll be stuckWhat are the concerns with starship being unable to maintain orbit? Or should that never be a priority, as that is rarely or never its purpose and intention
>>16474611>>16474487You don't understand how much SpaceX does to capture a certain part of the labor market.
>>16474678oh lawd he said it>>16474693That's why the most competent young engineers are are streaming towards NASA, right?
>>16473836It's difficult to tell sarcasm from genuine mental retardation online if only because in some forums there are many genuine retards. In the future please explicitly label your post as either trolling or retarded.
>>16473853>use a meme rocket from a suborbital rocketry companyHow many orbital flights does BO have?
>>16473878There's no way that was random debris. It's moving about as fast as the astronaut.
>>16473952If you're doing the same old shit as everyone else you can just reuse old designs, models and data. When you are doing something genuinely innovative you cannot.
>>16473891DUDE PERFECT!
>>16474693This is the kind of dumb stuff angry people say when they hate someone and need to deny their success.
>>16474068he realized that he can use the attorney general to sue the agencies via chevron and get the feds to pay for it
>>16474514>Musk has vowed to finance the campaigns of opponents in their districts>this is a unprecedented mandatelol
>>16474693nothing gets accomplished without competent leadership
>>16474842Oh yeah, who was the "competent leader" behind the Sistine Chapel, or the Mona Lisa, etc....? If you need a "leader", that's because you're a follower ;) Great men blaze their own trail. They don't play "Follow the Leader". Enjoy your never ending Plebian existence!
>>16474847Michelangelo? Da Vinci?are you retarded on purposeleadership doesn't mean the source of funding
>>16474001>>16473999Water is an alloy of metallic hydrogen and metallic oxygen
>>16474005>NASA admin needs to be confirmed by senateI have heard there's a plan to make them all recess appointments to get all the appointees in on day one.
>>16474918the senate would need to go into recess for that to happen
>>16474923>recessBefore or after gymnasium class?
>>16474114Light gases
>>16474693Flat out wrong. Mine came from SpaceX the company, not any of those Saturn era guys OR Musk. Musk is eh desu, I like him because hes pushign forward the agenda of single issue space voters like me.
>>16474937if you don't know the technical details of the Senate's fucked up rules, don't try to comment on them
