Jacklyn - editionprevious >>16532468
>>16535033Nooglen lands in one piece without falling over or exploding: yes or no?
Hello.
blue origin jack glenn?
When Raptor 3?When ship catch?
>>16535035https://strawpoll.com/kogjRDj32g6
>>16535035NoIt either aborts steering off away from the pad or misses completely
>>16535036earth after the martians glassed the planet
>>16535036I miss this ugly piece of shit more and more each day
>>16535048Callisto is not ugly. It looks like the night sky in planet form.It will also be the home of Arcadia, the city where the UJE (United Jovian Empire) will be ruled from (by me).
>>16535050Why is Jupiter tilted 30 degrees from the plane of the Milky Way? Grok sucks.
>Speaking of the vice president, it's unlikely that the National Space Council will be reconstituted under JD Vancewe're getting rid of the space council?
Why is everyone on social media talking about anti gravity tech
>>1653504250/50 chads keep winnin'
>>16535035I'll be surprised if it makes it past max q, let alone staging.
>>16535036fuck off.
>>16535060the schizo had it in his manifest or somethingtalking about how the drones flying over the US that got people riled up a little while ago (which made propeller noises btw) are actually chinese gravity tech.there's a nonzero chance that the schizo who had a melty on /sfg/ not too long ago went critical and decided to blow up a cybertruck.
>>16535059whats the purpose? sounds like some pointless committeefuck bureucracy
>>16535081>fuck bureucracyon it
>>16535059Elon is the space council.
>>16535070amazing
>>16535098the Frieren Aviation Administration
>>16535036oh hiiiiii!!!!!!!!! XD
>>16535111What’s the point of the rocket engine then?
>>16535133>>16535135what
>>16535137
>>16535036We absolutely must industrialize this rock. Even if Elon doesn't want to do it.The future is building spaceships and launching them from the lunar surface where there is barely any gravity. We can sojourn to any point in the solar system and beyond from there.
>>16535141its very likely that it will be colonized but it will probably be after we're dead
>>16535111fuck off weeb
>>16535141>the moon is a gatewaylrn2deltavthe moon is a detour
>>16535172all i see here is that LEO needs to be established as a 'staging orbit' to act as a logistics hub for cargo & crew to either the moon or mars
>>16535178oh god
we need to land some shit on mercury. I don't care how high the delta V requirements are. gravity assist off venus twice, make the probe tiny, whatever. just get it done.
>>16535183it's unironically a boring rock
>>16535186they all are but it's the most obvious boring rock we have yet to put something on.
>>16535186It has interesting properties, and it's the only one of the terrestrial planets we don't have surface photos from yet.
>>16535130Spells have ranges, rockets can work even when you can't see them anymore.
>>16535183I'd rather land something on Ceres
>>16535141I'm starting to think Elon is regreting the HLS contract (that is if NASA forces them to complete the contract). Because I think he wanted to use it to flight test Starship but then have it cancelled at the last minute because 'it's too complex' or sth like that.He's starting to show his real attitude (doesn't care about moon)
How much longer until somebody figures out a way to break humanity's dependence on chemical rocketry?
>>16535214spin launch exists
>>16535207Do you guys have any idea how dumb you look responding to Elon's comment about skipping the Moon while ignoring what he was responding to?
I was not believed last thread. I will be posting four images proving Elon was trying to defend himself on /pol/
>>16535215ahemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziGI0i9VbEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibSJ_yy96iE
>>16535219Don't bother, I don't care.
>>16535219
>>16535215Alright but where are the fusion reactors to power the beam sailing spacecraft?
>>16535220I didn't really believe in spinlaunch but if thunderfoot hates it I guess there must really be something to it.
>>16535219you mean there's a non-zero chance I might have argued with elon himself here and called him a retard? uh oh, sorry for that
>>16535221The future of spaceflight hinges on the mental stability of our favorite autist>>16535222
>>16535227
>>16535227that's not elon, elon types the X logo with the double line
>>16535230Just one of multiple signs that this is a troll.Anon is dumb for falling for it.
>>16535230Why would he do that if he's pretending to be someone else? Lol. Also >>16535227 was deleted right after he posted it.
>>16535141That's Callisto dumbass
>>16535214>How much longer until somebody figures out a way to break humanity's dependence on chemical rocketry?A lot longer now that incredibly power dense (while still having good ISP) engines like Raptor exist.
>>16535231Everyone is dumb. People spent the last few weeks thinking that 737s are hyperdimensional Iranian attack drones and that fog is chemtrail vax smoke.
>>16535220Spinlaunch on Moon with a solar powered oxygen production makes the Moon attractive for missions to Mars.
>>16535219>"I was not believed">that filename
>>16535219jesus this is really pathetic, you're showing us a tripfag preteding to be an elon wannabe dittmann.can you just go back to /pol/?
>>16535219I mean, it's just a tripfag. But if he lurks on /pol/, he's just 2 clicks away from sfg anyways, I'm sure he'd be curious as to what this website is saying about starship.
>>16535259If I were Elon I'd simply post anonymously, not as some attention-grabbing tripfag.Duh.
>>16535261hi elon, pls consider covering all of mars with mattressesthanks
>>16535111>>16535098insanely hot and cute
>>16535217The moon is a distraction. DOGE will delete it, thankfully
>>16535288if you guys hate the moon you should watch the latest sonic movie, won't give spoilers
I don't hate the Moon. I just think that it should be moved to another orbit between Dirt and Mars and become it's own planet
The New York Times admitted that scientists have been inventing bogus species to justify Endangered Species Act lawsuits since 1970.Total Beetle Deathhttps://x.com/aarmlovi/status/1875584298918809634
>>16535219That's 100% Elon. Same talking points, same writing style.
>>16535042Two thirds of /sfg/ is retarded
a fucking O-ring
>>16535130Maybe the magic only dispels the effect of gravity so you still need to accelerate the thing.
>>16535310I know right, who would choose "no" as an answer??
>>16535141Gay argument by assertion.If there's anything worth getting from the moon, there will be ventures moving that shit to orbital shipyards. But of course that relies on the cost of upmass falling dramatically, which removes most of the incentive for doing so.
>>16535242What is an onlyfans ratio?
>>16535315The other 1/3
>>16535320Oxidizer / Fuel
>>16535321the remaining retards? yeah.
>>16535327the non-retarded answer should've been "N/A".
>>16535033Will SpaceX send hydrogen to Mars so they only have to do atmospheric extraction instead of mining water, to gather all elements for making the fuel? It would be just 2 Starships of hydrogen. I wonder what they will send with the first 5 unmanned Starships to Mars, apparently Optimus robots but I am not sure how useful they will be in 2 years.
>>16535293Why? It's part of human culture since the ancient times and is the reason we even exist. It's a symbol of Earth's uniqueness and is something interesting to observe in the night sky.Our real goals should be moving Ceres into Mars orbit, and moving Io into Venus orbit so our counterpart has a real moon.
>>16535336We should have like seven or eight big moons, on grounds that it'd look neat in the sky.
>>16535336if venus had a moon we would have figured out orbital mechanics by the time of the ancient greeks.
>>16535305It's the same talking points I use on /sfg/
>>16535340It took them way too long to realise Venus had phases like Luna.
>>16535255See this >>16535229 screenshot he posted and then deleted, showing admin tools and the "view post engagements" that only shows up on your own posts, on an Elon post>>16535261Elon would definitely be a tripfag>>16535305This would be damning enough
>>16535336>Why?FUCK EARTH
>>16535292does Dr Eggman piss on it?
I can't believe there are retards here falling for this obvious bait
>>16535214When we get closed cycle gas core NTP so never
I can't wait for Flight 7! I'm so excited!
>>16535355I'm waiting for Flight 1.
>>16535350They're not, they're actively attempting to push it on everybody else. It's the same pack of retards who were spamming about indians last week, and for the same reason. They think they're not instantly recognizable, because they're not very bright.>>16535355I'm eager to see the test sat deployment, the last pez dispenser door didn't fly so good and they must have improved the mechanism some since then.
>it currently costs $100 million to send a lander to the moonhow much would it cost for starship to send a lander?
>>16535361who are you quoting? chandrayaan 3 was about 88 million for everything.
>>16535293>move moon>>16535336>move ceres/iolol. do you know how much energy it would take to do any of that shit? obviously not. these arent just small rocks but its like saying you are going to move Antarctica with a steamship.
>>16535363>third world pricesim talking about missions like intuitive machines>NASA awarded Intuitive Machines a CLPS task order for the IM-1 mission in 2019 that is worth, after modifications, $118 million.https://spacenews.com/final-preparations-underway-for-launch-of-first-intuitive-machines-lunar-lander/
>>16535133these numbers are fake for africa
>>16535365Ceres is tiny.We can do it within a century.
When are we leaving this planet bros? Another day waking up in this hellhole called earth... They promise us to be on the moon,mars and beyond at this point .... What went so wrong?
>>16535366>government "inefficiency" prices then it will continue to cost whatever they can convince nasa to pay regardless of launch vehicle costs.
>>16535346just some larping tripfag
We should try to colonise Antarctica. We've had permanently settled habitats there for decades, but we should try to get it self-sustaining. All nations come together to build a city in Antarctica. The Earth belongs to us.
>>16535369Its not about size but mass. and its the energy required to change its velocity. Moving a 9.1x10^20 kg object is like kardashev level 2 stuff.
>>16535374
>>16535327no, the non-retardsthe comment you were replying to made that quite clear, make sure to read next time.
>>16535375Just do it bit by bit then. We don't have to do it in one go.
>>16535334No.>>16535346nobody cares, i'm pretty sure we established this.
>>16535353>le nuclear lightbulb It's space, who cares about fallout. The solar winds will carry it away.
Nuclear Pulse Propulsion is the only way to send manned missions to deep space or other solar systems
>>16535374reminder that the Antarctica-Mars equivalency argument that we can't colonize mars because we can't colonize antarctica is retarded.we CAN colonize antarctica, there's just stupid international rules in place that stop anything more than research outposts being built.if prospectors were allowed to look beneath the antarctic ice sheets, i can bet you we'd have mining towns there a few years later.
>>16535381You wanted to totally replace chemical rockets. That's the only nuclear engine that doesn't spray fallout everywhere meaning you can launch from the ground
>>16535334They need to mine water for people anyway.
>>16535387The rules say you can still use chemical rockets to get to leo
>>16535377ah you're one of the retards, got it! I hope you can pick the non-retarded option next time, good luck!
What book about the Mercury age would you recommend?Is "The right stuff" any good, or is it more propaganda?
>>16535387There's also the Serpent NTP+Arcjet engine but the TWR on that is pretty bad.
>>16535033>Jacklynwhat happens when she sinks in a massive fiery bezos bomb?
>>16535376When you realize Antarctica is a classic JRPG map.
>>16535391There just isn't a lot of interest in muke engines. Lockheed is supposed to launch and test one in 2027 but who knows if that will really happen
>>16535392>no it's not fair, i'm part of the two-thirds who is retarded, how could this be happening to me!>i know, i'll call him a retard instead, that'll set him straight!No.
>>16535334>I wonder what they will send with the first 5 unmanned Starships to MarsThey need solar stations and rudimentary construction bots that can pave landing pads and make protective structures with rocks and dust.
>>16535401Have they actually talked about landing infrastructure before? Are they just going to yolo it with the first wave until they get humans there to build landing pads?
>>16535355*Starship 7
>>165353702 weeks
>>16535376
our time is near
>>16535033Starship optimism bros... it's..... OVER
>>16535406I used to have this picture printed out on office paper and stapled to my wall.
>>16535410There’s no way to sugarcoat this
>>16535400oh nice, you save me the effort of greentexting you
>>16535410They could have deployed payload if they really wanted. It's not the design goal of Starship to be expendable.
>>16535417Oh please
>>16535410most people don't know this but the banana was deployed and used a kick stage to get itself to orbit
>>16535374>>16535376I bet there's tons of really old archeology under the ice that we don't even consider possible currently.
Anons, how retarded/unfeasible is this idea for unmanned missions:The idea would be to build a smaller version of LHC in space which would serve as the propulsion device for small probes (e.g. 100 grams or whatever), using lasers as power delivery and slowly applying electromagnetic propulsion to the object that we're trying to launch to other galaxies.>Build a series of modular rings which will form a ring structure in space>Launch and position the modules individually until they form this ring structure in whatever orbit is optimal>Launch a relay station for power delivery, which will sit closer to earthYou'd fire a high power laser to the relay station, and the relay station would redirect the laser beam to one of the ring modules, the ring module would take some of that energy (while passing the rest of the laser beam to the next ring module) and push the probe to the next ring in the loop using electromagnetism. The cycle would repeat until you accelerate the object to the required speed, at some point you'd just let the object pass through the ring when it's aligned to your target destination.how retarded is this on a scale from 1-10?
>>16535033WE NEED FUCKING GAS PLANETS FUCK MARS LETS JUST GROW SOME MOTHERFUCKING GANJA ON THAT SHIT>>dead ass serious it's MADE for ganja-anon /out/
>>16535033OK why does it need a tug boat?
>>16535424One ring explosion and Earth has to be abandoned in favor of the Galilean moons and Mars.
>>16535424I forgot to mention, you'd be increasing the speed of this object over the course of 2-3 years, or whatever is practical from the standpoint of our SOTA lasers
when is QI meme sat#2 launching / doing it's experiment (totally won't break this time, right?)
>>16535399Draco, right? If they've still got the space forces support I'm sure it'll happen
>>165354312 weeks
>>16535401>solar stationsKek
>>16535431okay I did some googling, looks like transporter 13, NET feb
>>16535428In that case, would it be possible to position this ring structure reasonably far away from earth, assuming it doesn't compromise the power delivery too much? We'd be speeding up these objects inside the ring over the course of 2-3 years, or more, maybe there's wiggle room for a less than optimal laser power deliveryseems like the idea is more dangerous/risky than retarded
>>16535439Possibly, I was merely referencing Cowboy Bebop.
>>16535422DONT DIG IN THE FUCKING ICEt. William Dyer
>>16535427barges don't have engines for travel
>>16535445Who?
>>16535397We make yo mama jokes in his replies on social media.
>>16535050>The likely presence of an ocean within Callisto leaves open the possibility that it could harbor life. However, conditions are thought to be less favorable than on nearby Europa.Oh no non onon!
>>16535033IT'S HAPPENING!!! THE JAPANESE ARE GOING TO THE MOON IN THIS MONTH!!
>>16535447Why not?
>>16535452And it's a rideshare with Astrobotic, isn't it?
>>16535453SpaceX's landing barges are also towed out to sea.
>>16535447they do>>16535427regulationsautomated ships can travel on they own in ports
>>16535453It's the definition. Ships, including drone ships, can move under their own power. Barges can't.
>>16535455I said why not
>>16535458*can't
>>16535416>NO IT'S YOU NOT MEwhy are you seething so hard?
>>16535462hey man, you're the one who picked the retard option. You're in no position to criticize anyone lol
Estimates on 2025 numbers?
>>16535464China is barely improving, wtf. What's the point of all that fearmongering?
>>16535403Not sure about SpaceX specifically, but it's something that has been talked about in general.It's easier to do on the moon because solar energy is so high that you can just use mirrors or lenses to melt regolith repeatedly
>>16535463i didn't though, i picked the intelligent option, you and two thirds of /sfg/ picked the retard option, your inability to read text is just another indicator of your retardation.
>>16535464195, 70, 16, 4, 18, 20
>>16535464New Zealand will surpass Russia
>>16535466They have a lot of new launch vehicles cooking. I dunno about fearmongering but thems the breaks.
>>16535464US around 160-180, China below 80. Another year of Japan launching more than Europe.
>>16535466militarized thirdies like chinks and other shitholes are very insecure about themselves and usually adopt the foreign propaganda tactic of the "blowfish" kinda like that one scene from breaking bad, except it doesn't actually work and all it actually does is give MIC lobbyists in western countries ammo with which to fearmonger so they can sell a ridiculously overkill plan of preparation to politicians.you saw this again recently with le chink 6th gen.no doubt it's a capable plane but the blowfish dictates that they sell it like an unmatched UFO because hey, it's got no vertical stabilizers, nobody's EVER seen that before and it looks cool!
>>16535470kek basedRocketLab = New Zealand
>>16535470Maybe. Soyuz has launched pretty consistently over the last five years and that doesn't look like it's going to change this year. Rocket Lab's had ambitious predictions for the last few years that they've consistently failed to reach, mostly due to payload delays or lack of customers. Electron will need to have a very good year and Soyuz would need to have a very below average year.
>>16535470Rocket Lab is an American company my kiwi friend
>>16535468>projection: the post
Good video about India's lasted spaceflight achievement https://files.catbox.moe/yp0cs6.mp4
>>16535468>>16535490you guys still at it? why not redirecting all this hate towards the real enemy: venusians
>>16535492>you guys still at it? I don't even know what option he's talking about. But it's fun seeing a dumbass melting down>the real enemy: venusiansno need to worry, they will never exist lmao. Not with their GAYloons at the very least
>>16535490>if i say the word projection first after doing it for the entirety of the conversation they won't look at menot how that works champ.
case in point
These is a vishnu in space
>>16535491well its true
>>16535464>Estimates on 2025 numbers?i lean towards 300 for global launches since it fits the trend (see pic). the safe estimate though is 250-300 launches. 250 if things go poorly, 300 if things go well. one of the NSF talking heads thinks 350 is possible, which is plausible but wildly optimistic imo.>>16535466china doesnt have enough payloads afaik. they only just started to launch some of their megaconstellation sats, so maybe their numbers will jump up this year.
>>16535482They're launching Neutron this year. Russia only had 4 more launches last year
>>16535527to be fair, rocketlab is a company based in the US and their neutron operations are entirely in the US, neutron will probably never launch from new zealand unless they see use in launching polar missions from there, but that would require building a launch pad, support infrastructure and shipping neutrons all the way over there, just for better polar and SSO orbit performance
>>16535242isnt it normal in ksp to refill fuel in minimus orbit instead of kerbin?
>>16535527They're not launching Neutron this year
>>16535118
>>16535141Lunar regolith is still a huge problem for any significant surface construction activity.It's too abrasive.
>>16535539what a doofus
>>16535539He's just telling the truth instead of pretending like it's some super special legal extenuating circumstance subpoena
>>16535539is this real?
>fighting disinformationcool story you got thereit would be a shame if something were to happen to it
>>16535546I refuse to go on /x/, idk
>>16535539>>16535546>>16535549It's fake.
>>16535551ngl embedded x posts would fix this
>>16535464How many launches did Africa have?
>>165350335555 for Mercury!!!!!
>>16535539what did you screenshot this on, a gameboy?
>>16535555wtf I love mercury now!you could have eskimos and hot tanned babes living a few blocks away
>>16535555Why haven’t we done a mercury lander yet
>>16535555made me think of this
>>16535295>flagrantly admitting they have a bias for finding one result other than another in their ""scientific"" researchShameful. Actually shameful.
>>16535295neat. who asked?
>>16535564Because Europeans were too poor to have it on BepiColombo.
>>16535568I did. I asked. Now what? Bet you feel fucking embarrassed now, huh punk?!
>>16535452>Japanese space missionIt will somehow fail. I don't know why but JAXA missions always seem to fail for one reason or another. Something about Japanese culture prevents their engineers from voicing concerns and addressing problems maybe.
>>16535533Yes they are
>>16535573that's fine, I don't care. As long as the nips keep producing rocketgirl yuri I will consider it as plentiful contribution to the global space effort.
>>16535570Why the fuck would you sacrifice this for some shitty magnetometer or whatever the fuck it is? Who the fuck actually cares about any of that? I want to see a view from the surface of Mercury.
>>16535572all I care about is spaceflight. what you posted wasn't space. it wasnt flight. it wasnt spaceflight. thats the litmus test in case you were confused
>>16535578I just wish Japan could be a global leader in technology and industry like their 80s and early 90s animes thought they would be.
>>16535580>all I care about is spaceflight.wrong generalwrong boardwrong sitenow go back to discussing indians, tesla explosions and bureaucratic corruption
>>16535581Imagine space capsules having the aesthetics of a late 80s Sansui VCR, with the rubbery buttons.
>>16535581They never should have kneeled to Eurocentrism.It would've been much more kino to have two major global powers; European and East Asian.
>>16535580>a major cause of launch and pad construction delays being exposed as intergenerational fraud going back to the Apollo days is not spaceflightYou are a gay mudfoot.
>>16535586Why should spacegods care about what libtard earthers say?
Drone ship #5 under construction
>>16535194>It has interesting propertieslike?
>>16535227Having admin access wouldn't be indicative of this being Elon, as there are plenty of users in X who would have admin privileges besides Elon. This is common in most organizations, as admin privileges are trivial to get as an engineer depending on which department you're a part of. It's root privileges that are difficult to get and those are very well safeguarded. If that screenshot gave you root privileges and indicated as such, that would be way more likely that this impersonator is in fact Elon all along.Mountains from molehills. 4chan is filled with retards, and troll culture means that people fall for dumb shit all the fucking time.
>>16535589>Merrimack
>>16535595>first steel-clad battleships spent their first battle just pinging cannonballs off one another for hoursGod history is hilarious sometimes.
>>16535374Colonizing Antarctica puts most of the sea costs of the world underwater by about 200 feet. https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2022/02/what-the-latest-science-says-about-antarctica-and-sea-level-rise/https://modernsurvivalblog.com/natural-disaster/how-far-inland-would-a-300-foot-tsunami-go-on-the-east-coast/Everything up to 225' is underwater in this gif, So sure, we can colonize the south pole, but the majority of infrastructure of most countries and their population dense centers will be under water. Unless you can solve that crisis first, you can't colonize Antarctica.
>>16535602New plan: Start a new ice age so that coasts increase in size as water gets locked up in ice. Imagine the Indonesian subcontinent. Imagine Doggerland reborn. We could have so much more land, bros.
>>16535601Imagine the sound inside those ships.
>>16535606and the spalling
>>16535605Easy, use Starship to put up 2000T worth of solar sail material into a heliocentric orbit that eclipses the Earth from the Sun on a desired cadence. Unravel the sail so that it stays in relative orbit its in. Let the Earth get eclipsed for long longer than duration of the Moon does. Earth gradually cools and triggers a mini ice age. Most of 4chan dies, H-1B problem solved.
>>16535608I think the iron plate they used back then was soft enough that they didn't really have spalling issues. From what I've read the guys in those turrets were mostly unharmed but with rattled brains.
>>16535591It's huge core and high gravity.
>>16535611Its*
>>16535226there's a nonzero chance I called him a stupid frogposter, which is basedfuck you, Elon, quit posting frogs
https://x.com/latestinspace/status/1875685885490147429>A huge piece of space debris believable to be a separation ring from a rocket fell on a village in Kenya
>>16535617Chinese I bet
>>16535617from a UFO?
>>16535619Unidentified Fallen Object
ipeed myself
>>16535553doesnt 4chanx do embedded xitter posts?
>>16535623if you had the foresight to leave some empty bottles sitting around you wouldn't have to suffer such an indignity.
>me two weeks agoKEEP /POL/ OUT OF /SFG/ MODS DO YOUR JOBS>me todayHOLY FUCK LOOK AT THIS AUTIST FLIP HIS SHIT, GUYS GET THE CAMREA
>>16535617The gods must be CRAZY
>>16535595Don't deadname the CSS Virginia!
>>16535602>Unless you can solve that crisis firstWe give people gills
>>16535610>>16535606Had a 2ft or more wood backing too
>>16535539this is a pretty embarrassing attempt ngl, are you that desperate for attention anon?
>>16535602but consider all the coastline we gain not only in Antarctica but also in land that's currently 50 miles inland. all in all I think its a net gain.
>>16535578part of my harem and both ready for cock
>>16535658it isn't.
>>16535651Did the monitor turrets? I know the confederate ironclads did.
>>16535036I can see my house
>>16535175Okay, which train gets me to West 81st and Columbus?
>>16535451don't call it an ocean, it's a mantlewater is a rock that far out from the sun
>>16535700
>>16535530if you're mining on Minmus, fuel is very very cheap in orbit therehowever, it's better in terms of hours spent to just refuel in LKO with propellant launched from the surface, especially if you have a reusable launch vehicle
>>16535578is she back yet
>>16535491Murdoch Murdoch type shiet
>>16535530>>16535704I use Pol as my gas station in the Jool system but I don't bother mining at Minmus hardly.
I thought this spammer got banned?
>>16535709>gravimeme schizo is actually backlol, i guess he didn't blow up the cybertruck after all
The schizobomber said the government has "Gravatic" tech, not "Gravitic". Completely different
wait isn't this the mentally unstable guy that had an emotional meltdown about "the cult of einstein" not too long ago?they really need to force these people to take their medication, he's in his manic phase again.
>>16535721you write like a methed-out hobo, calm down for your own safety please, you're gonna have a melty again.
Let's be very honest again, we don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle. Falcon 9 Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry.
>>16535725you basically just proved me right by coming out as the schizo from a few days ago. so, uh... yeah, i guess. i'm pretty normal, you're clearly very unstable.
>>16535729I love this copypasta so much
>>16535732it’s so versatile
>>16535736>sidesteps reality>you're upset because you recognized meyou're not very difficult to miss with your extremely unhinged writing style, how are you going to explain how unbothered and not-mad you are this time around?
>>16535740>he's already fuming this muchit's so easy too, schizo's literally have zero impulse control.
>>16535606Speed dimples
>>16535740>Tell me more about Standard Model and Dark matter and how dark energy is realthey aren't
>>16535743i'm pretty sure you argued yourself into the dirt and lost, last time, and then went around in circles acting out against a bunch of fictional characters you created in your head.please anon, just, get some help.
>>16535172Only if you're starting from Earth. The Moon itself can be an absolutely unstoppable industrial powerhouse home to tens of billions and if I have my way it'll make the Earth politically and economically irrelevant.
>>16535751>i-i didn't argue>i-i'm laughing s-so hardyeah, i remember this, this guy spent pretty much an entire afternoon claiming to have proof of instant quantum communication and when pressed he posted a few popsci tabloid articles that invalidated his own argumentshe continued to try and find someone to argue with for hours after that while people mocked and made jokes at his expense.he might have hallucinated a different version of events to protect his ego.>>16535749>he's this angry at the word schizophrenicdid he get diagnosed with it? is that why it makes him act out like this?
>>16535060>anti gravity tech
>>16535754Blimps are clearly the work of the einstein cult, they give false deniability to the real anti gravity engines they're testing.
>>16535617that's a piece of a crane or something, not a rocket
>>16535760the cult of einstein uses blimps to fool you into thinking anti gravity sightings can be explained away. look schizo anon! >>16535754
>>16535711Minmus mining is a good party trick and a good way to learn how to do interplanetary transfers when you deliver fuel to LMuOI'm glad I set up my Minmus mining station, but I definitely do not use itit just takes too much brain power and real time to deliver fuel to anywhere useful
I'd like to imagine these two anons are actually the same person arguing to himself.
stop replying to it, faggots
>>16535766you should go back to the archive and check it out, it's not every day you get a real schizophrenic on /sfg/. usually most of the conspiracy type stuff is just trolling but this guy stayed and desperately fought for his schizo beliefs for hours on end.
>>16535763>>16535711actually what sort of rocket do you need to use to get a vehicle all the way out to Jool anyway, I'd like to see what you've got, I need ideas
>>16535772he's about to do it again, too.schizoanon is already in his>i'm totally not upset but i'm going to try every insult in the book to try get you to stop bullying me
>>16535772how many times do you think he's going to bring up einstein this time?
>>16535773Old pic of an old design, but basically enough nuclear engines with enough fuel will get you anywhere.
>>16535716>>16535720>>16535723>>16535744>>16535767threadly reminder that the US government denied the existence of gravimetry for decades before Tom Clancey wrote about it in his book, and for most people disclosure happened incidentally and near imperceptably as a result of a throwaway line referencing gravimeters in the film "Hunt for Red October"this is because that tech played a critical role in the US nuclear Triad, namely sensors for nuclear submarines, for many yearsyou are all the lowest form of scum and villainy, return to your discord hiveyou will NEVER comprehend geodesy
>>16535780not realistic enoughput a giant silly straw between the crew compartments and the engines.
gravimeasure this dick
>>16535780you really did just throw nuclear engines at the problem, huhmy issue is that I'm using a reusable TSTO VTHL double spaceplane for all my upmass
Guys, stop all this space nonsense. We have to talk about the rape gangs right now
>>16535790stop trying to distract from the gravimetrics you fucking einstein worshipping pedophile.
Pay no attention to the gravisthetics schizo. He is off his meds
>>16535783my weight scale is a gravimeter and it's telling me i'm fat :(
>>16535796the easiest way to lose weight is to go to space
>>16535796too much gravy, you will never go to space eating like this.>>16535795you can't use that word, he's gonna explode again.
>>16535729https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ptPdlVAwFg
>>16535799a true classic. absolutes kinomatografie
>>16535801it's not really kino. maybo clippo
did the schizo calm down? i want to talk about uranium reserves.how long could we actually sustain mass use of nuclear torches? since we can't exactly re-use that material in breeder reactors once it's been launched out of the torch, don't you think it would be a really bad long term option if we don't find better sources of nuclear fuel offworld?
>>16535745>>16535740Dark Energy may not be real. But, it's not in an exciting way, but a way that Relativity is adequate to account for. Time runs faster without gravity wells, and for light passing through cosmic voids, enough time passes more quickly that regular cosmic expansion looks like it's accelerating to viewers on the other side. Dark Energy can potentially be explained away this way, but it doesn't add any new exotic phenomena in the process.
>>16535807Broken in what way, and for what solar model?
>>16535783>gravimetryliterally just accelerometers, nobody was "gatekeeping" the study of gravity using accelerometers lol.>>16535806oh he's just hungry for attention nvm
>16535811>everyone is mad but me pt2schizo-anon is really gonna do this again, isn't he?
Any updates on the bomb threat?
>>165358131992? This is pretty worthless as it is. Solar formation models from this time are known to be completely wrong because our solar system is not a common solar system.
>>16535816ask the gravity schizo ITT, he's probably the one who sent it.
>>16535815no, i get it, you need negative attention, you lack other ways of getting what your brain needs, so you try to extract it on internet forums.it's a little sad, but i get it.have a nice day.
>>16535816the bomb is still threatening.>>16535818the fireworks were probably his attempt at an "alternative" non-standard model bomb
>>16535824kek
>were
>>16535823Wasn't disagreeing with you here. >>16535817>>16535826The what am I looking for? What am I looking /at/? I skimmed a bit of this and I didn't catch values that were implied to be negative. So, for the sake of a random internet retard that does not, in fact, know the ideal gas laws or how to use them, what's the significance?
>>16535835you think she's on her period?
>>16535787>reusable TSTO VTHLI've done something like that I think, just stick the spaceplane on a big rocket and get it most of the way to LKO before staging. I can't get anything useful stuff up in spaceplanes though, for really big payloads I rely on fuckhuge SRBs to launch a common nuclear tug that can head straight out to Jool with whatever I'm sending.
>>16535459Yes, but unfortunately natural language doesn't work like that. There are self-propelled barges.
>>16535836certainly has the speech pattern of a passive aggressive woman in her 20's maybe we should send him some chocolate?
>>16535835wait a second, these are all the ways that a female activist starts a post.
>>16535633kek
>>16535846why'd you reply to 16535844?
the crews of nuclear submarines are liabilitieswe should replace them all with automated systems and AI LLMs so that way there is no risk of failure
Salyuts are underrated.
>>16535837what if the big rocket is ALSO a spaceplane thoughwhat then, motherfuckeryeah, it's basically impossible to launch anything with mining drills in a Mk3 fairing
>>16535843Okay, so there's no good faith argument being made whatsoever on your end. Got it.
The epitome of Earth humor are Uranus jokes.Let that sink in.
>>16535856he's gonna continue to argue with you now, you have no choice in the matter.
>>16535773Orbital construction + drop tanks
Caelus
>>16535853I would live in one of these, alone.
>>16535824wew
>>16535865same
>>16535812someone is mad that it's common knowledge advanced gravimeters of the kind commonly used in survey work today were classified technology until they were disclosed to the public through a multi-madia hollywood production"Twentieth century technology thus addressed many of the shortfalls the 19th century torsion balance. Bell created a sensitive gradiometer that was easy to use and could work from a moving vehicle. This technology remained classified, however, until the end of the Cold War because of the important role it played in America’s nuclear deterrent.""Post-Cold War relaxation of some security restrictions in the 1990’s brought the Navy technology to the attention of oil geologists. The military advancements in gravity gradient measurement technology made the gravity gradiometer attractive again for use in the search for oil almost 100 years after Eotvos developed his first torsion balance."
>>16535853Whats up with russia's backwards progess in spaceflight? these things look roomier than mir or the russian half of ISS
>>16535871Mir and the ISS were both built around surplus Salyut modules. the Mir Core Module and the ISS's Zvezda modules were both Salyut modules originally.The reason they don't look like they do in the illustrations is because they inevitably get packed with all kinds of supplies, equipment, etc.
>>16535871I assure that the usable pressurized volume of those Salyut stations are not even one third of what is depicted in those images. Apart from looking way bigger than it actually is, the dozens of cables, and cargo compartments laying around, only leave you with enough space to barely even being in a standing position. Add to that the moldy smell, and you get the real Soviet experience. Starship will finally end the cuckpod(tm) fetish that both Russians and Americans love so much.
>>16535874Just wait, they're going to pack starships to the gills too. Give mission planners more space and they'll find more ways to waste it.
>>16535869and?also why did you disprove your first sentence in your own post? that particular design was declassified by the US when it was deemed no longer tactically important, people already knew about gravimeters regardless.my guess is your point is that the US has classified things in the past therefore all of my schizo fantasies are actually real and just hidden somewhere?
>>16535869>advanced sensors were classified due to their military applications..... therefore antigravity schizo shitdiseased thought process.
space wife
>>16535869>inb4 angry, passive-aggressive response calling everyone but him a redditoryou gonna tell me i fell off next? with your obnoxiously fake smug attitude?
>>16535884space slave
Why did NASA stop sending cute women to space? Our tax dollars are being wasted.
Sometimes I get the desire to build a space suit just for fun
>>16535855>what if the big rocket is ALSO a spaceplane thoughLemme see
>>16535912perhaps you could also join the griftjust 10 more years
>>16535916Why didn't she make it work?
>>16535921that was never the idea
>schizo and anti-schizo stop talking>/sfg/ dieshmmm
>>16535940I started playing KSP, sorry
>>16535947doing a Duna mission? I always find myself getting bored and dropping the game whenever I reach that planet, where my adhd ass would spend >90% of the time just building the spacecraft.
>>16535952Picking up on my old save and seeing what there is to do, I left lots of stuff on the alarm clock schedule, various things going various places. In 250ish days I can send pic related back to Jool with another 40 cryogenically frozen Kerbal colonists on board, bound for Laythe. Last time I played I was in the middle of an attempt to get a small base of 15+ Kerbals on each island there to really call it "colonized" but I didn't do them all yet.
>>16535957That's some cool dedication. A mission to Jool would take me forever. Having only a laptop doesn't help, seeing those struts makes my pc sweat already lol
>>16535961I have around 130 craft in flight currently across the whole game and my PC room gets noticeably warmer when I play KSP, no other game I throw at this computer does that. For years I played on a more limited machine, upgrading was necessary to finally play like I want, with tons of mods and a prettier solar system. Now I've got crew in stasis on 20+ year trips to the outer planets, Sarnus and the others from the Outer Planets mod. While they drift, I fuck around on Laythe.
>>16535966Any specs for your pc? Ngl, the only reason I would get a desktop is to play some heavily-modded KSP in 4k. Talking about mainly RSS, and lots visual enhancers. Even if it is to just "simulate" a routine mission to LEO, like some youtubers do, where if you didn't know about KSP you'd think it's either real of some expensive hollywood CGI.>130 craft in flightthat's insane>no other game I throw at this computer does that.unfortunately, calculating all trajectories and physical properties, collisions, etc of all the little parts does that. well, the spaghetti code doesn't help, either.
>>16535968>AMD FX-8320 Eight-Core Processor 3.50 GHz>AMD Radeon R9 200 series>32GB RAMI bought it off my friend when he upgraded to his new PC a couple years ago, it does what I need it to do and then some.
>>165358521983 called and wants its movie plot back.
>>16535835I never assume a poster is a woman but you might be right
>>16535975there are people in this very thread who unironically believe that would be a good idea, if the last one is anything to go bythat's how critically retarded this general truly is
>>16535915I don't WANT to fire up KSP thoughokay, I'm working on a crewed Duna lander right now (my existing Duna rover blew a tire and if I'm going out again I might as well go hard with crew)>>16535957hell yeah okay let's get POSTING
>>16535957my prototype Duna landerI've cheated it into orbit and it was able to land just fineIt has enough dv to presumably do some Ike work when I need it to
the uncrewed cargo shuttle version of my upper stageit will take the duna lander to escape velocity and then mosey on back into Kerbin's atmosphere and land on the runway in a few weeks
and the booster required to loft this enormous thing to 75km and 1200 m/s
any craft names from my reusable upper stage spaceplanes catch your eye?I guess I should assemble a nuclear crewed vehicle to go to Duna...
>>16535973>FX-8320No matter what you paid, you got ripped.
>>16535805The fact that gravity is created by mass slowing time is still not widely known by normies.
>>16535033 i just woke up!! i am sso excited to watch the first new glenn launch today!
>>16535706Why are elevens like that?
>>16536038anon, I...
>>16535706didn't xe private xer xitter or xatever?
>>16536055deletedundeleted, and privated and removed all of her followersI think it's actually a girl
>>16536056>a real girl on the internet>japanese>interested in rockets>interested in yuri>can draw>trans flagyeah, No. It just doesn't add up. I will believe it when I see it (her coochie)
>>16536033>The fact that gravity is created by mass slowing timeThis still isn't a confirmed fact.
>>16535036Henlo
>>16536074This is so far from earth
New Glenn's delayed again. At this rate Starship Flight 7 might actually happen first.
>>16535863Yes
>>16536038>>16536096
Is new glenn delayed? I didnt find any announcements about it
>>16536113It got moved to Wednesday.
>New GlennAnother low earth configuration.
>>16536130Heh
>>16535952building the spacecraft is the best bit in ksp, especially if you're like me and install way too many mods so the actually gameplay is janky as shit.
>>16536059ready for my cock
>thinking he can defeat the lesbomagnetic field with his shriveled tiny pencil rocketlol lmao even
>>16536162lesbians don't exist, lesbimetry is irrelevant, anti-cock drives will never exist and "lesbians" will lose to the cock every time.
>>16536178
>>16536178didn't you read the newest study? yuri is actually the time dilation between galaxy clusters. And if you still don't believe me, just take a look at Cern, they created many lesbatoms in their particle accelerator. I'm sorry your oldspace mind can't grasp it, but the future will be built with Dyke-matter drives.
This is getting boring. When are we getting weekly Starship flights? It's too slow. I have nothing going on in my life.
>>16536188Weekly Starship flights will get boring too.
>Recover the SLS core stage with LOFTID inflatable aeroshell and parachutes>Recover the SRBs with Draco or RS-88 thrusters (or some non-toxic alternative) and parachutes>ACES tech on the EUSI just made the SLS viable
>>16536195Were it so easy.
>>16536195>>16536209oh and for the amount of money Ares/SLS had for dev we should've had this already
Jeff!! Do the fucking needful already
>>16535464>145 from US>140 of them are just SpaceX with Falcon and Starship
>>16535464>210 from US>200 of them are just SpaceX with Falcon and Starship
>>16536020I got a working computer that runs good and plays the game I want, you negative nancy cunt.
here are the final results for how many times /sfg/ expects starship to fly this year.check back in December to see who was right.
/sfg/ is based
>>16535522anyone remember how depressed we were in the mid-2000s, when it felt like nothing would ever trend us up again? SpaceX really changed everything by pushing through their early failures.
>>16536242the only reason /sfg/ even came into existence is because there was finally more than 1 major event per year to talk about.space has never been so interesting.
>>16536236This is pretty good, I voted 11-15 but I feel like it's going to be either that (14-ish) or 8, the other top option, with not really much chance for the in-between. Depends on whether they start reusing the booster.Also did we do this last year as well so we could see how it went? I do my own personal predictions for a bunch of stuff that I can compare to but I don't think there was much in here.
>>16536242I was hyped for Constellation, once upon a time, simply because it was SOMETHING happening.
>>16536002>>16536000>>16535996Better Shuttle? It looks unmanned so it's already safer. Also I underestimated how many flights I've got going.
>>16536244I did not make a poll last year, if there was one I don't have it.
>>16536246>>16536243>>16536242i remember having an interest in spaceflight as a kid and learning about it's history, reading books with those classic beautiful illustrations of satellites that had been launched and future concepts.then when nothing happened for a long time except the ISS being finished and the occasional mars rover, i lost interest.really only found this place in 2019 when spacex started kicking it up a notch.
>>16536243>space has never been so interesting.In our lifetimes you mean? Surely the sixties were more thrilling.
>>16536277fair enough
>>16536195The problem is then you would still have an SLS.
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/7546353i present to you, a prokaryotic thread from 10 years ago, the beginnings of what /SFG/ would become.this was just a few months before orbcomm and the first falcon 9 booster landing.feel free to peruse the archive with me and find more gems like this.
>>16536298>EM drive was a thing 10 years agogrim
ten years later and nothing has changed
>>16536302I could talk about the moon landings until I die and never get bored
>>16536299schizodrive anons the world over got cucked even in the very first thread.
>>16536302Since then, the cost, capacity, and launch rate for spaceflight has been revolutionized like never before, and the hardware for actually doing manned interplanetary missions is being built. The first thread of /sfg/ had no inkling of the era we're living in now.
>>16536298https://warosu.org/sci/thread/7732627the launch thread for orbcommtruly launch threads are so pure that nothing has changed in the intervening decade.
>>16536310https://warosu.org/sci/thread/7732627#p7736628this nigga predicted point to point
>>16536310
>>16536310>>7736592>So basically you can launch satellites more cheaply? How is that going to change anything? We already have thousands of those things up there right? Just seems like american patriotism to hype up nothing much at all.AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>16536319>a massive waste of tax payer money only outdone by the threat it poses to the environmentnot the own you think it is...
>>16536321It's not tax payer dollars and environmentalists are liars who invent endangered species to stop development because they hate human progress.>Muh money and muh environmentIt's not the own you think it is.
>>7737095>There's been an awakening..>Have you felt it?
>>1653633510 years later and blue origin is finally actually literally launching
>>16536299>EM drivea blast from the past indeed
this puts a big smile on my face
/SFG/ is DEAD
I like to pretend my flask is a Super Heavy Booster and my hand is the catch tower.
>>16536356>spacex engineers are fucking drunkardsit's over for felon
>>16536359My tea flask retard
/sfg/ wasnt a thing in 2015
>>16535060It goes in cycles. Some event happens that gets normal people talking about it than an army of midwits physicists come out of the woodwork to chant their religion.
>>16536356i had a recent dream that i was at work and a fuming, smoking starliner was coming down on two parachutes in a field next to me. i quickly warned my co-workers and people in the area to GTFO because the smoke from hypergolic propellants and highly toxic, and to not go downwind of the landing site. saving hundreds of people in the process and giving an interview to reporters later where i complain that this was not surprising given starliner's history and the fact that it's a barely functional piece of trash.that never happened, but i dreamt about it.
>>16536362nobody said it was.
>>16536361>spacex engineers are fucking tea-fagsit's over for husk
>>16536365Yeah, you pretty much did
>>16536364>that never happenedonly because of brave men and manchildren like yourself. Thank you for your service!
https://youtu.be/awN2w3sGj1wHydrofags BTFO again
>>16536369i didn'ti said it was a prokaryoteone of the first threads that tried to consolidate spaceflight discussion, and not too long before spacex did the impossible with falcon 9it's just a nice little piece of history.
>>16535877What is a schitzo fantasy?
>>16536374ok
>>16535940I think schitzo posters are bots desu. I don't really see them making coherent arguments. I don't know any normal sane person who would say the government doesn't spend billions on black projects.The DOE budget had internal confined fusion under weapons grade classification up until 2020 and the ignition system is still listed as classified weapons tech.
>>16536374It was expensive Not impossible They just threw more money at it than anyone else
>>16536309Rockets are the wooden sail boats of our era. No, the hardware for manned interplanetary missions isn't being built. You're delusional if you think Elon will get humans to Mars with H1Bs and chemical propulsion.
brilliant pebbles
>>16536395Elon is God, and God can do anything
>>16536395>You're delusionalLast time you said that we got two static fires in one day.
>>16536298>Wants to talk about space flight >Doesn't want to discuss FTLEngineers are educated idiots.
wtf is elon gaining from boosting this grooming controversy every few minutes? the UK is a total nonfactor in the big picture. we have a launch in 5 days. i miss the times he would answer rocket questions and give cool hardware details. He's turning into Zubrin, eventually Elon's senility will have him tweeting about a single subject 24/7, like Zubrin does with Ukraine. Howard Hughes arc
>>16536410The better question is why are you bothering with Twatter at all. It's literally Facebook for zoomers.Musk took the spot of Rocketdyne by offering a cheaper service--dude doesn't know shit about science.
>>16536410He's trying to win back street cred with /pol/, like Sam Hyde suggested. Not even joking, that's obviously his angle.
>>16536410he's currently retweeting grok images supporting his priors. also posted an anti elon tweet before that https://x.com/robert_zubrin/status/1875936923950465132how can someone who made it his whole life effort to be pro Mars throw it all away to focus on slav wars? i dont want to get old bros
>>16536416??
>>16536420Thank God that war is going to end soon.
>>16536419Like his apology tour in Israel after antisemitism got boosted on X. complete with a necklace that he would never remove until every last hostage is released
>>16536410its just american right wing schizo nonsenseAmerica is filled with grooming victims but they call them "coal burners" and hope they die
>>16536377*schizo
>>16536425Back to your containment thread zigger
>>16536432>ziggerI am a Pole living in Poland (Germany).
>>16536419>>16536426he's fucking shameless lmao. by innaguration day I'd bet he's completely forgotten about DOGE and has moved on to his next pet project/flavor of the month controversy
>>16536425it really isn't.ending the war in it's current state basically just teaches snowgerians that they can try this again in 10 years.apparently nobody's learned that there is no reasoning with this deathcult and they need to have a proper collapse if they want to reform into something better.
>>16536432This you?
>>16536033Mass slowing time has been wildly known by normies since interstellar came out a decade ago. There is no link to frame transition and gravity. If you do have a physics degree you should ask for a refund immediately.>>16535805>Can potentially be explained >Just 2 more decades Standard Model will never be able to unify special and general relativity. Bag Model is laughably inadequate.
>>16536428The pseudoscience of psychology isn't something I spend time on. What is a schizo fantasy anon? I'm genuinely curious.
>>16536447So you wouldn't mind being ruled by Chinese?
>>16536447>russia>one of the most corrupt shitholes on the planet>would make better useyou're a captured useful idiot, have you ever actually been to russia?
j28m>>16536441Right handed neutrinosStochastic gravityCosmological constantDone
>>16536441i don't use a standard model, i use a model S
>>16536447>Russia would make better use of Europe than EuropeansCold war times proves you wrong
>>16536447>Russia would make better use of Europe than EuropeansDid you somehow forget about the WW2 and the Cold War? Eastern Europe is a shithole due to 5 decades of Soviet occupation.
>>16536447China could make much better use of Russia than the Russians do.
>>16536450America, Europe, China, all uncorrupted bastions of liberty. Fucking retard>>16536449I wouldnt mind if they took their shitty islands back
>>16536462>I live in a malfunctioning society filled to the brim with niggers>but at least I don't live in this other malfunctioning society filled to the brim with niggers>t-take that!!!!!
>>16536460>w-well western countries have problems toono shit, we talk about them here all the time, and the only reason we can even do that is because they're significantly better than absolute near third-world shitholes like russia.
>>16536462that's a pretty lame attempt at equivalency, western europe is significantly better off in just about every single way.
>>16536471Comparisons between Western and Eastern Europe are (or were) very close to Europa vs America. In one place you earn much more, but the other one has safe, high-trust society, no gang wars and urban fauna ruining cities.
>>16536476>safe, high-trust society, no gang warswhich eastern europe is that lmao
behold, the hole
>>16536480This area.
>>16536410he is trying to get alternative parties elected in europe that are against mass immigration and generally unfucking the countriesReform UK in the UK, AfD in Germanythere is also the issue of EU bureucrats fucking with him and his companies (especially X and censorship issues) that might have finally sent him over the edgegetting rid of the pointless and actively harmful bureucracy in Europe should help the European economy which would help Tesla in particular there, but generally also affect the world economy and his other companiesEurope becoming stronger economically and militarily subsequently would also mean that US doesn't need to put so much resources into defending it
tldr wen hop?
>>16536458I agree
>>16536465You forgot that my shithole goes to space
>>16536488No idea, ask Chinese.
>>16536487>that are against mass immigrationthat are right wing grifters who will increase immigration*
>>16536493问 hop
>>16536468Who are you quoting?
>>16536484also known as central europecoincidence?
>Space related stuff should only be followed on a monthly/quarterly basis because everything moves so slowly. Thoughts?
>>16536496the person i was replying to, that was pretty much the crux of his argument.
>>16536492no I haven't. I left out that part because it would completely btfo me and every european
>>16536511
>>16536516holy fucking shit, I was just about to post that
25% more prop volume is a funny way of saying 25% less payload volume
adding fuel increases payloadur fuel limit is determined by stage 1 total thrust
>>16536525Usable volume is actually the same
>>16536527according to the ringwatchers article its actually bigger, if you look at number of starlinks
>>16536516What's a "smart" battery?
>>16536525But it's taller
>>16536425not if the j*ws have a say in it, all the dead Ukies (the ones who weren't flown out the day before the borders closed), all the dead russians, and all the money j*ws are making off their MIC stock (which they seem to have invested heavily in right before 9-11) means it's the gift that just keeps on giving for them
>>16536557The diagram is based on the latest flight 7 press release here: https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-7The "smart battery" language is actually in the original:>integrated smart batteries and power units that distribute data and 2.7MW of power across the ship to 24 high-voltage actuatorsGenerally, smart batteries include electronics to manage charging and discharging.
>>16536557https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_management_system
>>16536516>>16536519>H1Bs shilling musk on /sfg/Who would have thought
>>16536299They went with ion drives instead. DARPA is still funding quantized inertia theory as are the Chinese. It isn't dead but the Dunning Krugers get pretty unhinged when you question the cohesion of their antiquated models.
>>16536557Something that has been around forever. The Zune had a "smart battery"It manages charge and discharge to optimize battery efficiency because some types of batteries actually have charge "memory"Just something else aincent that musk is pretending to be a genius and original for using in his systems
>>16536589how is claiming to have a smart battery system "pretending to be a genius"? i think you just created a really weak strawman.
>>16536493wen ho pee?
>>16536592You seem pretty sensitive about people insulting musk, Patel
>>16536577shut up retardthere's nothing other than SpaceX in spaceflightyou pretending otherwise is evidence of bad faith or actual retardation or both
>>16536596>I don't like Elon and therefore everything has to be about how I don't like Elon and I am no longer capable of rational thoughtCould you just fuck off to somewhere else? You're not adding anything and indulging in your delusions isn't doing you any favors either.
>>16536516Hmm
>>16536596so if i create a phone and i call it a smartphone, i'm claiming to be some genius merely by calling it that?you need to try harder pratesh
>>16536598>Only musk has launch systems >Only spaseX does space operations If you insist, Zara
It's called a smart battery because there's additional "intelligence" in the form of the electronics that manage the battery.It's an existing term and has nothing to do with Elon other than some seething retard in this thread using it as an excuse to get mad about Elon.
>>16536602I do insist. Shut up, retard.
>>16536602they're the only ones with relevancy.adding an indian name behind every seething post isn't exactly helping your case, you just look like even more of a tourist now, you should get lost.
>>16536604it's a really weird hill to die on, imagine getting angry that a company that builds airliners calls it an airliner, as if calling it that is automatically claiming that you invented the concept.
>>16536338>but muh sub-orbital carnival ride!
>>16536602fuck off retard
>>16536611*Mobilize
>>16536481>this is my hole, it was made for me
>>16536602>>16536596>>16536589EDS is weird man, it causes you to hallucinate a storyline where elon musk personally walks into the boardroom, calls the new battery management system for starship a "smart battery" and very adamantly insists that he invented the term and the concept.imagine doing all of that, and then getting angry and upset at this fictional event you created on your own head to further reinforce your own derangement.>>16536611i just kind of assumed it was because you insisted on calling everyone who made fun of you an indian in every previous post, you should read the above, and do a little self-reflection, none of this ever happened and you're spending energy getting upset about it, get help.
>>16536529they got rid of some crappy girders at the top, which raises the space wide enough for starlinks
when blue orgin launch?
>>16536620NET Wednesday.Actually launch? Who knows.
>>16535998unrealistic, make it 69m high
V2 is warming up to me. I actually think it looks better than V1. It's sleeker.
>>16536181wow that's big
>>16536588too bad for you I see right through your lies and pilpul
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/filename/1727132775462991.jpg/image/QEWiunRbJZKoX9j-bY0pWg/
>>16536613
I'm coining a new term, Indian Derangement Syndrome
hey you guys seem like experts, and googling has failed me. I'm trying to find out what a graph like pic is called. the rocket starts out normal on earth, travels, and ends up upside down on mars/moon/whatever. I know I've seen something like this before but I can't find it now
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1875942627427877229
Venus is cool because it’s the evening star
>>16536660Need a hammerhead style Starship.
>>16536660New Glenn (if it works) will be a better rocket than falcon heavy
>>16536432>ziggerreddit is the other way bud
https://x.com/Space_Time3/status/1876063947172008310BG NET Jan 10 nowSame day as flight 7?
>>16536664It's the opposite of Earth.
>>16536602>Only musk has launch systems>Only SpaceX does space operationsYes
>>16536657I know exactly what you mean but I don't know the exact name either. Concept of operations often includes it but I'm not sure that's only this chart.
Does Elon not understand that the President has ZERO effect on space policy? It's all on Congress
>>16536602If you subtract spacex there is literally no western launch capabilities. ESA had a pathetic 3 launches and ULA still can't launch and return astronauts.
Yep, NG got moved to the 10th.>NG and SS on the same dayFucking kino.That means, in my timezone, I will get to watch NG launch while I'm having my morning cup of tea, then when I'm in bed later that night, I will get to watch SS launch while drinking my nightly glass of milk.
>>16536716Perhaps, but also consider that POTUS carries a heavy “fall in line” stick that he or she can use to sway how fellow party members vote on certain things
>>16536620when we are ready
>>16536716Bully pulpit influence. Also there have been times where Congress straight-up asks the president which programs to keep alive.
>>16536685New Glenn will have to compete directly with FH on cost/kg. It will be interesting how the market price tracks, considering NG second stage is horrendously expensive.
>>16536718Scrub
What is even the cost of Nuu Glenn?
>>16536251>It looks unmannedhaha yeah>>16536623that would make it difficult to launchif I was really not fucking around I'd just put legs on my spaceplane and tail land it, but unfortunately I am, in fact, fucking around
What is even the cost of New Glenn?
>>16536738fat
>>16536739>>16536737Probably between 100-500 million per stack
>>16536685The FH was an after thought and probably a waste of time
>>16536728It's payload fairing is bigger so that might enable missions that are not possible on FH. It can also lift more so you can jam more shit in there to lower the cost
>>16536754FH stole multiple payloads from SLS, it was absolutely necessary
New Glenn is real
>>16536755I would not be surprised to find that expendable FH is lower cost than reusable NG. As for price to customer, NG is unlikely to be priced to recoup dev costs. It will probably be priced near FH asking
>>16536742yeahmaybe something like this?
>>16536716The President can say >We have to primary Congressman Oldspace "quickly"!! MAGA!
>>16536761ArianeSpace calculated New Glenn's cost to customer to be $68 million, midway between baseline F9 and baseline FH pricing. This will kill everyone but BO and SpaceX lol
>>16536761It's still going to be lower than any old space rockets and the price will come down over time
>>16536774NG won't have the cadence to kill anything
>>16536774>midway between baseline F9maybe internal but that's the same as f9's cost to customer is it not?
>>16536779Price dumping, my dear sir
>>16536785the cheapest F9 is closer to 50 million
>>16536660Once it launches New Glenn will be the best operational rocket in the world by a mile
>>16536660New Glenn will get us to Mars
>>16536660New Glenn is the largest most powerful rocket ever built. Most accurate rocket, most cheapest rocket ever buikt
oh please please lord Elon, let New Glenn and Starship launch on the same day, that would be so kino
what if new glenn and starshit collided?
what if new glenn and starship kissed?
the two rockets are going to fuck
>>16536820
>>16536395Wooden sailboats colonized the whole world.
>>16536828This. Why did he just own himself like that?
>>16535035Kys twittertard
>>16536716>the President has ZERO effect on space policy?oh no it's retarded
>>16536728>New Glenn will have to compete directly with FH on cost/kgFH is for high energy launches, Glenn is competing with F9
>>16536714Hm. Found several examples only referring to it as CONOPs. I guess I couldn't remember the name because it doesn't have one.
>>16536728Don't the revised NG payload numbers put it on par with F9?
>>16536420He's a jewish slav, what do you want>>16536395Starship is plenty big for ten people to make the trip per ship
Joe Barnard is humanity's best hope for becoming an interplanetary species.
>>16536891he was smart in finding a GF right before he started losing his hair
>>16536889too late i've already eaten it
>both of them launching on the same day
>>16536913no, new glenn is going to be delayed
>>16536916source?
>>16536922the oracle of delphi
>>16536925More like the oracle of delhi you fucking shitsmeared jeet
Looks like they're getting ready to load the Starlink sims on Ship 33
>>16536945thank you starship news poster
>>16536943Struts solve wobble
>Elon just wanted to hire the ISRO guy who's only job is to yell NARMAL
>>16536949>kraken shows up
>>16536186will we build a giant Dykeson Sphere around the sun?
>>16536966God I hope not. Dykeshit sucks.
new glenn, on its maiden flight, will deliver more payload to orbit than starship has done in 6let that sink in
>>16536972It's actually for melon. Arrest him now.
>>16536977over*
>>16536664>be me wageslave>working long hours into the evening>tired and want to kys at the end of the shift>come out and see the outside world for the first time in like 10 hours>see this amazingly bright star low on the horizon>feel in awe at the universe, smile a littleI love you Venus
>>16536972Okay, I let the sink in, now what?
>>16536981Keep vacuuming up Musk’s semen
>>16536980based
https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/1875650531575935003?t=u5I7EAbtc7DdwXGHz3HXhA&s=19This is Fucxing hilarious lmaooooooo
>>16536980>tired and want to kys at the end of the shiftliterally mebut then I think, if I end it all now then I won't be able to see people on Mars lol
>>16536984Roger that
>>16536984if that helps us reach mars faster, then I'd gladly do it.
>>16536987#Ad
>>16536980me going to the beach to watch a rocket launch
>>16536997yes, but only one of those two options is fun to build in ksp, have you considered that?
>>16536997The left one would cost 100+ billions of dollars.
>>16536972if it blows up it will be grounded for two years
>>16536993can you make a webm out of it??
>>16537000and the right one would take 100+ of launches...
>>16536998it's Starship
>>16536896The moment she goes off birth control she will hate him.Many such cases
>>16537006I forgot to write that it would cost 100+ billions of dollars to launch. Those program itself would likely cost 500+ billions of dollars.
>>16537012delusional
>>16536987kek it's really good
https://x.com/SLIM_JAXA/status/1876135635209330711SLIM is kill
>>16537018the whole space industry, excluding spacex, really sucks.
>>16537020like really sucks. it's bad news, after bad news, after cancellation, after budget cuts, after delay, after delay, etc etc the same thing for the last 50 years. thank goodness musk was born.
0i poop i pee i stink.
>>16537020>>16537018I worked with JAXA on some roooover stuff a couple months back. Like goddamn they were all using 2008 netbooks. Gah.
>>16537022Thank you for you comment.
Only one more delay needed for Starship flight 7 to happen before New Glenn flight 1.
Staging>>16537041>>16537041>>16537041>>16537041>>16537041
>>16536943been there, done that. yes its scary af.
>>16534344I was sure I read articles only a couple years ago about something to do with superposition or absolute zero and "weird gravity anomalies". But I just googled even that and nothing's really popping up.
>>16535070I don't give a shit about this ex-marine being assassinated for something and CIA going full Ted K character assassination on him.What's important is the science.I could have sworn there was a legitimate effect on gravity the closer particles got to absolute zero. There were legitimate breakthroughs and it was even on TV.I'm a little worried because Google doesn't remember them.I didn't pay that much attention to it, so maybe I'm just misremembering a different breakthrough.
>>16535368>ignores south americaApparently, rainforests are not arable.
>>16537139They don't make for good cropland after being cleared.
>>16535214>break humanity's dependence on chemical rocketry?Literally impossible without us turning into ethereal matter that isn't somehow chemical.I think you fail to understand the term "chemical" here. Or the phrase "chemical rocketry".
>>16535219>this is why Elon must commit sudoku to his company by hiring undereducated indiansYou want to know why most shit is breaking nowadays far easier than it did 15 years ago?Imagine hiring gypsies and then thinking you were going to get the same level of quality.
>>16535522That is a looooot of space junk.I guess the future really is Planetes.
>>16535818No, our bombers attack random muslims and jews, not shitty overpriced garbage trucks.
>>16536888wrong trips, cirno
>>16536828sailboats are so sexo
>>16536980Thats vesper
/sfg/ - Sailboat Fucking General
>>16537149she can't count
