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previous >>145696880
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>>145703352
Serves him right, he trusted a JEW.
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why are they clapping at losing? what a bunch of fags.
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>>145703352
>threw ez int on final snap
oh sneedhuskers
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CHRIST IS KING
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jews are gay
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does a 1-loss indiana make the ploffs?
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>>145703398
>ez int
>ez
why is (((espn))) trying to make this a thing?
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is this racism
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>byjew
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>>145703447
Depends on how they lose
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Sorry Mormon nigger, but Christ is King.
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>>145703447
Depends on how big a loss and who to.
Narrow loss to Ohio State? Probably.
Getting blown out by Ohio State or losing to Purdue? Nah.
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>>145703447
If Ohio State beats them by 40 it's a tossup.
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>>145703447
Only if that loss is to Ohio State or in the B1G championship.
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Now all of a sudden BYU vs Arizona State next week is probably for a spot in the Big 12 Championship game.
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>>145703522
but enough about your sexuality
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coach primate
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>>145703549
>playing for a chance to get Nash'd by Colorado
wew
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>the Jews lose
Kek
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>>145703628
Skattebo is gonna make Travis and Shilo hold his dick
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>>145703628
colorado is dogshit, more refbabby'd that mutthomes
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By the way, with this BYU loss, Boise is going to get that bye if they win out and clinch the Mountain West title. The AAC Champions might also sneak in as well and cuck the B12.
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Targeting and it's consequences have been a disaster for CFB.
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>>145703083
>anyone have the webm of ewers trucking the player earlier today?
i watched the replays of the game and i didnt see him run over any defenders. when did it happen?
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Armybros...we're still in this!
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>>145703700
>We may live in a world where Boise and Army are in while the truck stop league champ is out
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Coach Primate in the ‘off
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>>145703614
>>145703823
post this in the miiverse coward
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broncbros...
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>>145703792
This BYU loss is absolutely apocalyptic for the B12. They NEED BYU or Colorado to win out to even have spot in the playoffs. If Arizona State wins the title then the conference is out of the playoffs barring a collapse from the AAC Championship participants.
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Oregon let that get way too close. I have no idea how they didn't plan for Wisconsin's defense.
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>>145703786
The only LGBT I support is:
LOCKHEED-MARTIN
GENERAL DYNAMICS
BOEING
TEXAS INSTRUMENTS
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would be so funny if indiana won lol seems inconceivable
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>>145704016
Bama free money
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>guaranteed replies
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>>145704064
id pick penn state over them no cap frfr
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>>145704084
>102 views
So this is your Twitter account then?
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>>145704097
I was scrolling google when I saw this...
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>>145703852
God, I miss Miiverse
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>>145704184
Shit was insane
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>>145704219
Why would Nintendo say this
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>>145704184
The Smash and later the Wii U Sports Community Channel was just a PG kids version of /b/.
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>>145704235
Because modern Japan is more racist than even the antebellum South
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>>145704184
lmao at the kid stuck in the forest of illusion
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>>145703614
and there it is
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>bunch of ranked teams lost
>Army will move up maybe 1 spot and still has no shot at the playoff while going undefeated
>committee will just cram more SEC & Big 10 teams into the Top 25 to boost their SOS, "quality loss", and "quality wins" bullsiht
Goddamn, I love how blatantly rigged this shit is and how everyone refuses to admit it.
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>>145703700
Boise is losing to CSU in the MWC championship
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>>145703907
>shidder sanders with odds
lol
lmao even
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>>145705200
They haven't played anybody, stop trying to pretend they have.
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>>145705200
I just don't see how it's interesting. I know the 4th place shitter in the sec is a shitter, that's why they finished 4th in a tiny sub group of teams, I don't want to watch a team play for a NC that finished 4th/16 in a sub group. muh wild cards in playoffs make american sports gay
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the fcs wasted 120 games against fbs teams and the most interesting thing to come out of it was New Mexico losing to Montana State. two entire weeks worth of games for absolutely nothing of purpose
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>>145705311
It's irrelevant. The fourth place shitter SEC squad would run army out of the fucking stadium, the playoffs are about the "best" teams not the teams with the best records. This is the future expansionfags wanted.
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>>145705330
it's going to be funny when these takes are ice fucking cold
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>>145705336
I guess we'll see when notre dame, who beat the fourth place shitter SEC squad, runs army out of the fucking stadium.
>acktually ass to mouth is second place
Whatever
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>>145705330
army shouldn't be in d1 and games against them shouldn't count by this logic then. anyone sane knows tennessee would probably crush army but that shouldn't be the point. I already saw tennessee shit the bed multiple times I know they're not the best, it's not debatable with them
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>>145703700
>the team that struggled for 3 quarters against San Jose and whose best win is UNLV will get a bye
there should be only 2 byes
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>>145705348
It's not the point because the current system doesn't give a fuck about that. The current system is the best teams get in. The record doesn't matter. The best teams go, those that are not the best do not go. Simple.
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>>145705305
Most teams haven't played anyone either. It's just a cycle of "well they beat X who's ranked", but who did X beat? It's all based on bullshit. Tell me who did Indiana beat? Ohio State hasn't beaten anyone either. You could say Illinois, but they haven't beaten anyone and lost to Minnesota. Again, it's a bullshit circle game where nobody actually beat anyone and they get ranked because of their conference and name alone.

>>145705330
>but this P4 team will definitely beat the G5 team
Like how ND would definitely beat NIU? You could go all throughout history and there's a bunch of big name teams that were definitely going to beat the underdog and they got beat. You never know until the game is played and played fair at that. None of this obvious refball rigging bullshit.
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>>145705365
Army beat FIU and Rice, though. Way more impressive than beating Texas and Tennessee, amirite? Fucking retard, you can't read for shit no wonder you're sucking off the zog machine. It's not about record, it's about who is the best.
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>>145705376
Cool strawman. Want to try again without the fallacy?
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>>145705376
Texas and Tennessee aren't good
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>>145705376
>dah regular season shouldn't matter just some fashion runway show for muh clutch playoffs
this is the most zog goy take possible and ruins every American sport because it makes the season much more pointless than it should be
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>>145705383
There's no fallacy because you aren't engaging with the point. It's not about record, it's about whoever the committee thinks is the best. No one in their right mind thinks army is better than the current top 15. No one. The only rationale you have is "but muh recoooooooord" just like florida state fags crying about it last year.

Look at how well that worked out. You're little pet team that could is going to get left out and rightfully so.
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>>145705384
Army would lose to either by 50.
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>>145705376
Texas haven't beaten anyone good.
Tennessee is a better argument because they beat Alabama. Which is better because Alabama beat Georgia and South Carolina. South Carolina beat AtM, Georgia beat Tennessee.
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>>145705394
You don't even know what a strawman argument is, sad.
>it's about who is the best
You have NO idea who that is unless everyone plays everyone. ND isn't the best, they lost to NIU, so they shouldn't be in the playoff, right? If you discount any loss by a P5 school, then you can do that for every loss, even in the Natty.
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>>145705403
Tell me who army has beaten that's good, please. I'll wait.
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>>145705407
they wouldn't be if we were still at 4 like civilized people
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>>145705399
nah, that's you
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>>145705399
probably, Fairleigh Dickinson still gets a seat at the table come basketball tournament time. everyone knows they're about #200-250 not a top 68 team. don't wolf down on cupcakes and pretend they're equals then
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>>145705450
>12 isn't enough
>we need 64
>plus 4 play in spots
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>>145705410
No one. I'm not the other guy you were responding to.
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I don't see how the playoff changes anything since it's the same as bowl season
the best teams are still going to play for the natty
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>>145705493
Just makes it so that the schools complaining about being left out are that 10-16 tier instead of 3-7. Teams will still complain but everyone knows that wouldn't win the natty.
Of course eventually you'll get a year where there's 5 Boises and Armys who think they should all get in because beating Georgia Southern is really, really impressive. And then it'll expand further.
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>>145705542
It'll be just like the NFL's system whenever realignment settles down.
>b1g and sec will be split into 4 team divisions
>national championship will be betwixt conference champions
Then everyone left behind can complain forever and the response will be "should've joined a real conference lmao"
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>>145705481
>go 5-3 in a league that keeps high schools shitters in it for financial purposes
>I should play for da chip
at least give the small fries a shot if you're going to bloat the playoffs
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>>145705542
its funny you complain about shitters getting a chance when you argue for teams finishing 6th in a 16 team league getting beat 3 times should play for anything either. what makes you think you're #1 out of 130 when you're barely above average in a 16 team subset kek
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>>145705568
this is based though. I just hate faggots that clearly aren't the best in their conference arguing that they should play for national anything
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>>145703930
>They NEED BYU or Colorado to win out to even have spot in the playoffs
My jayhawkies are bringing this whole ship down
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Current playoff projections (not ranked)
1. Oregon
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Notre Dame
5. Colorado
6. Miami
7. Boise
8. Texas
9. Tennessee
10. Ole Miss
11. Alabama
12. Georgia
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>>145704084
I guess this nobody isn't a big Notre Dane fan either.
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>>145705450
I still can't believe my alma mater took down #1 Purdue. Fucking surreal.
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ESPN is projecting Tennessee is now out of playoffs, and BYU moves to 13th, which means Boise would get the first round bye over the Big 12 champion
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give me a single reason why South Carolina shouldn’t make the playoffs
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People need to stop thinking that the Big 12 is even close to the same conference it was 20 years ago. They're a glorified MWC at this point.
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For me it is the Auburn Tigers, the best college football team.
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>>145707004
A 3-loss non-blooblod team is dead as fuck. Sorry.
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>>145707022
I say this as someone that went to UCF.

>literal MAC
>CUSA
>American
>big 12

If you see UCF join your conference know you’re now MAC-tier but without the fun and weeknight games. Happens every time.
You’re next ACC, tick tock.
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>>145706863
no chance boise is ahead of byu its just not possible
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>>145707022
aside from the occasional meme year where someone like Baylor or Oklahoma State would make a run, the Big 12 was almost exclusively propped up by Oklahoma and Texas. Them leaving has opened up a massive power vacuum of suck in the conference.
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>>145707274
>exclusively propped up by Oklahoma and Texas

You mean Oklahoma?
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>>145707258
BYU should have four losses right now. They've been living on more borrowed time than Miami.
Boise State got a scare from a now 8-2 UNLV, but gave Oregon everything they could manage and has handled business otherwise
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>preseason #6
>now about to be unranked
What went so wrong?
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>>145707420
It's okay, they'll be replaced by another SEC team in the rankings to keep the conference propped up with "quality wins" and "quality loses".
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>>145707420
>ranking was based on last season
>when Mizzou lost both of its toughest regular season games and struggled against an Ohio State that literally didn't care
Nothing "went wrong" Mizzou is just reverting to its natural state.
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>>145707420
They were overrated garbage from the very beginning. Thankfully an actual underrated team put them out of their misery.
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>>145707429
Vanderbilt, welcome back to the land of the ranked.
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>>145707441
Vandy needs to do everyone a favor and beat Tennessee to end the season
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>>145707416
winning is all that matters for playoffs, they should look at your record and your strength of schedule and thats it. Anything else is for power rating shit and vegas spread odds which don't matter for playoffs ofc they do so you are probably right cause they love boise for some reason
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Wazzu, Missouri, and LSU are OUT.
Arizona State, Iowa State, and UNLV are IN.
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>>145707495
>Iowa State
goddammit not these motherfuckers again, actual biggest frauds in the country
>Arizona State
based, my boy Skattebo been disrespected too long this year
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>>145707471
SOS doesn't mean anything, at least not ESPN's or any that judge it based on Top 25 rankings.
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>>145707471
>winning is all that matters for playoffs
clearly not considering two 13-0 teams got passed over just last year for a 12-1 team
>they should look at your record and your strength of schedule
SoS is just as big a meme stat as all the others you mentioned, because they all serve the same purpose: the committee wants to make a controversial decision and will latch onto ANY stat they can to justify it. Otherwise, Indiana and Army would be #2 and #3 in the country right now
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10-2 Texas or 9-3 South Carolina
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>The Citadel
>be below average team
>fire your coach
>switch to the boring ass Spread
>immedialtely go winless
>it's 2024 and your only wins are against the absolute worst shitters imaginable
They deserve it. You NEVER go away from the BONE. Now they'll get BTFO by Clemson next week.
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>>145707550
armies best win is 6-4 east carolina obviously they do not have the sos required but indiana could easily be 2 they just didn't have the preseason rank necessary they arguably have a better resume than tejas
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>>145707550
>the committee wants to make a controversial decision
They inherently don't
Their job is to make the cfp and its partner as much revenue as possible. That means justifying as many larger revenue-generating teams over non-generating teams as much as possible. It's easier for them when it's not controversial
ACC and B12 being reduced to one bid isn't because of "strength", but they think they won't generate as much revenue/viewership as SEC/B1G teams. Notre Dame draws big ratings so they can be excused from losing to a MAC team. When it comes to Indiana, they can't keep them out if undefeated, but at 1 loss the argument over putting 2 loss SEC teams is more will people still watch Indiana football, and more then if Alabama/Georgia/etc are in? That gives them the option to decide, yet also noting how Penn State doesn't have that decision and considered locked in, since they are a far larger draw
You have to look it as solely who they think will make more revenue, that's how they decide these things. That's how Alabama was in playoffs last year, or that year LSU/Alabama were in the title game despite already being decided on the field
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>>145707420
>d-don't mention F-Florida S-State
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>>145707689
They'll be ranked again after beating Florida and proving they are SEC caliber
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>>145707666
nta, but I know you're right and 100% agree with you. It's also why a lot of games are rigged, and the rankings are completely rigged to generate certain playoff matchups throughout. My problem is how they refuse to admit it all. Just come out and admit that it's all for show and money is all they care about. I'd respect them more than them continually lying about it.
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>>145707689
We knew FSU was doomed when they settled on bringing in DJU at QB. Mizzou was returning the core of an 11-win team so they still had a capacity to disappoint us
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>>145707689
Why even mention them? It’s like bullying the special needs kids at school. It’s just wrong
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>>145707731
Special needs kids can have tard strength, though. FSU doesn't even have that.
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Will Tittman finally get fired to make way for a real coach?
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>>145707763
Bobby’s just waiting for the right moment to put the knife in Sam’s back and retake his rightful spot as coach.
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Next saturday there's a HUGE game
1-9 Florida State will face 1-9 FCS Charleston Southern
There's no way Florida State can lose to a team THIS bad right?
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>>145707787
TUNE IN AND FIND OUT
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Will Deion even want to coach after his kids are done with college?
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>>145707804
No, he'll take over whatever team Shedeur is on and start that retard no matter how bad he is.
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Jeff Samardzija really let La Raza down by playing baseball. Him balling out on Sundays would have been big for the community.
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>>145707804
If the Giants have an opening, he's taking the job and drafting Shedeur 100%.
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>>145707787
It seems like every week FSU hits rock bottom, and every week they still find a way to dig through. I’ve given up saying “they won’t lose” until they prove that they won’t.
That being said, I have to imagine losing to a 1-9 FCS team would get Norvell fired on the spot, buyout be damned, so that would be funny
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kRZEEz3gis
man cut the bulljunk and get me one of them wings :joy: I love how shilo is always over coach primes shoulder like his second conscious always trying to convince coach of something or shmooze him
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>>145707282
>2 loss team at 1
>3 loss team at 11
>3 loss Big 12 team at 21
>5 loss team at 24
Go home Sagarin, you're drunk
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Texas and Penn State will be 3 and 4 on Tuesday and neither one has beaten a top 30 team
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>>145705311
>not liking more football
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>>145705326
>what is a fundraiser
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>>145705357
Best teams are determined by record. And not just wins and losses, but who those wins and losses were to.
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>>145703447
As other Anons have said, if they lose to Ohio State but acquit themselves well and don't get BTFO, they'll have a good chance. They don't have any great wins, but the way they've dominated most teams on their schedule is impressive.
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>>145708143
ALL colleges could save millions, if not tens of millions, if they got rid of all the useless staff positions. There's zero reason for them to need fundraising other than wanting to push the globohomo jewish propaganda on the students.
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Is Colorado for real?
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>>145705311
>I know the 4th place shitter in the sec is a shitter, that's why they finished 4th in a tiny sub group of teams, I don't want to watch a team play for a NC that finished 4th/16 in a sub group. muh wild cards in playoffs make american sports gay

The problem with that logic is you're going to have a bunch of SEC teams finish at 10-2 who all beat up on each other. The difference between a team winning a conference championship in the SEC or finishing in 5th place may just come down to tiebreakers. So it's not like the team that finishes first in the conference is definitively the best, especially since schedules aren't always equal. Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss have all more or less proven themselves to be roughly on par with each other this year. On a given day any one can beat the others.
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>>145705365
Opinions like this is why all college football fans should be locked into their respective campuses for the entire season with no means of communication in or out save CCTV broadcasts of away games and with all teams wearing generic uniforms
No one even knows what is good or bad anymore, they are so obsessed with how everyone else looks they can't even tell if their own team is good or shit
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>>145708307
The answer is just to go back to pre-BCS and make it where if you win your (8-team) conference on a round-robin schedule that is your natty.
The redditors of /cfb/ caused this, they can't simply enjoy games and consider their team successful if they beat their rivals. They just had to know whether Team X was better than Team Y across the country and the NCAA used their autistic bullshit to milk everyone for even more money.
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Turns out, having a 12 game season with 130 teams who remotely don't even play each other close to once, at times even in the same conference, is not a good idea to resonate who the "national champion" is and the idea of national champions shouldn't even exist in this sport
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>>145708388
My team is shit, which is Kentucky. They also beat Ole Miss, which should disqualify them from the Playoff.
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>>145708418
You want to turn cfb into march madness or something?
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>>145708276
Always were
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>>145705200
>refuses to admit it.
I’ve been seeing a lot complaining about the SEC since it’s clear they’re trying to push Indiana out of the playoffs
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>>145708418
It's pretty easy to do. Have 12 conferences with 12 teams each. You only play conference games so that every team plays each other once. At the end of the season, the team with the best conference record & head-to-head to break ties, is the champion. If a title game is needed, play it. Then all 12 conference winners are put into the playoff.
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>>145708403
The natty was the natty back then, dumb newspapercuck.
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Just took a big stinky LSU
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>>145705376
Texas is literally been playing the shittier teams in the SEC and FCS opponents
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>>145707274
Texas fell off hard in the big 12. Only Texass fans think they every mattered when they couldn’t stop being a bitch to okies
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Every year is Texas' year, and then they shit the bed is hilarious fashion. Same for ND, Ohio State, and whatever pet SEC team you like that isn't Georgia or Alabama.
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CFB should start on Labor Day weekend and end on Thanksgiving weekend.
That's usually 12 weekends, sometimes 13.
All teams should play an 11-game or 12-game schedule, with one or two idle weeks, depending on what the calendar looks like. Shoot for one idle week.
All teams should be in eight-team conferences, or maybe eight-team divisions within a larger conference, if that makes sense for other sports that play more games.
You play seven conference games, round-robin, alternate home and away. A player going through four years will play at all other conference stadiums twice.
Whoever wins the regular season is the conference champion, no ifs, ands or buts. No championship games.
You get four or five non-conference games that you can schedule as you like. ESPN can keep doing their bowl game bullshit but no more playoffs. If you want to schedule a national #1 vs. #2 in the Rose Bowl or whatever for reddit then do it but a bowl game is a bowl game and not a semi-final or quarter-final for something else.
>>145708479
>You only play conference games
No. Out-of-conference rivalry games are more important than NFL-tier schedule parity. If you want that then start a national U23 league for the NFL.
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are you saying there is a scenario where the big12 is left out of the playoffs completely?
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>>145708561
>muh rivalry
The vast majority of those are extremely lopsided. The others can be solved by simply putting those teams together in the same conference. You want better rivals that would also benefit the fans & students, do every conference by geographical location.
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kys bumpfag
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>>145708561
>robin
I bet you watch soccer huh?
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>>145708442
No, I want the opposite
If we need to keep the system we are keeping we go back to playing 12 of your rivals. Your enjoyment is from beating your rivals, and if you are good you can go to a bowl game to finish off the season
There is no national champion, nor any legitimate attempt to make one. No school plays to be national champion
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Washittington Shit Poogars
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>>145708624
>USC and UCLA are struggling in the Big 10
>Poogars are 1st place in fucking Pac 13
Lmfao. What bitch asses schools.
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>>145708608
No, soccer is gay and lame.
But we can agree that there are ways to make the season matter and one of them is having you and seven of your peer schools compete to see who is the champion.
>>145708596
>rivalries don't matter because they are lopsided right now
Found the zoomer NFL fan, they always come out on Sundays.
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>>145708648
Will they even get the holiday bowl at this rate?
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>>145708662
Probably
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https://bball.notnothing.net/sec.php?sport=fb

sec standings calculator
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1. Oregon
2. Ohio State
3. Texas
4. Indiana
5. Notre Dame
6. Pedo State
7. SMU
8. Miami
9. Alabama
10. Ole Miss
11. Georgia
12. Boise State
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Rooting for Texas A&M to beat Texas for maximum chaos
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>>145708584
If BYU loses to Arizona State and Colorado loses to Kansas, plus Army wins out, absolutely.
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>>145708722
kek
uga will be 5th or 6th
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>>145708649
>zoomer
Wrong assumption, but please use more fallacies so I know how low your IQ is. Oh boy, can't wait for another UK-Tenn rivalry game where UK has won 3 of them since 1985. Can't wait for another Michigan-Minnesota game where Michigan has won 74% of them including all but 3 since 1987. That Penn State-WV rivalry sure is great, even though WV has only won twice since 1956.
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>>145708403
>>145708403
they do but they also need second chance re-dos and arbitrary scheduling to create quirky situations. that's why they loathed divisions in cumbersome conferences even though it was the only objective measurement in the sport
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>>145708771
>this 100-year-old rivalry is irrelevant because my team sucks
git gud zoomer
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>>145708811
Strawman fallacy and no facts to backup anything. Thanks for admitting I was right and you're wrong. I accept your concession. Filtered. Now be a good low IQ retard and reply more, I'll never see it. I know you can't resist, you're already typing.
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>>145708748
There's absolutely zero chance they jump Ole Miss or Bama
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>>145708584
No unless BYU completely collapses
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>>145708853
they will
uga has wins over 9-1 texas, 8-2 tennessee and 8-2 clemson
bama lost to vandy
ole miss lost to lsu and kentucky
neither have more than one good win
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>>145708745
doesn't the winner of the big12 championship game get an automatic bid?
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>>145708890
Give it a few years and the only auto-bids will be given to the SEC & Big 10
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>>145708880
And whom did Georgia lose to, bubba
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>>145708890
No, it's the top 5 ranked conference winners. If Boise St and Army win out, they could both finish ahead of a 2 or 3 loss Big12 champ.
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>>145708890
No, it's written specifically that the five highest ranked conference champions get an automatic bid. They don't specify conferences themselves getting autobids
This makes it so if a P4 conference champion is a complete shitter they may be excluded in extreme circumstances. In this case, a 2-loss B12 might not be ahead of 1 loss Boise and undefeated Army
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>>145708722
It wouldn't shock me if these are the rankings this week because the CFP committee is lazy, but it would be completely insane if Miami remains ahead of Georgia this week. UGA has played four top-10 teams, three on the road, and gone 2-2 in those games. Miami has a loss to an unranked Georgia Tech and will have zero wins over ranked teams after Louisville drops out of the polls this week.

If the CFP keeps Miami ahead of UGA this week, it would be their strongest statement yet that they only care about number of losses and the quality of your schedule literally doesn't matter.
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>>145708918
>undefeated Army
Can't wait for this drawn out meme to end next Saturday
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>>145708911
bama who lost to tennessee who lost to georgia
sit the fuck down inbred faggot
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>>145708938
What will your excuse be if Army BTFO of ND?
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>>145708913
Tulane has an actual shot here if a couple more games fall the right way.
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>>145708955
>Bama, Ole Miss, and UGA are 8-2
>UGA is 0-2 vs those teams
>but my meme analytics say h2h is actually bullshit
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>>145708561
Maybe the answer is to replicate the NCAA divisions within a conference.
Say you have a 24-team conference made up of schools in a given area.
Football has a low number of games and a low amount of parity. Basketball has a higher number of games and a higher amount of parity, i.e., smaller schools who would not be competitive in football are competitive in basketball.
So you could have a Division I, II, III within the conference and have three eight-team divisions where the football teams all play each other.
Then in basketball there are no divisions and all teams play each other.
With 24 schools you could also have a Division I/II for sports that have more games than football but less than basketball.
This way all schools share a geographical/cultural background, resources and recruiting but are also playing in competitive divisions.
Now if you wanted to get really rowdy with this you could have promotion/relegation within divisions.
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>>145708994
I wake up and check the scores to see ND wins 35-17
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>>145709010
why did you omit Tennessee from this?
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>>145709010
tennessee has the same record and beat bama but lost to uga
you are a mouth breathing retard
sorry but uga has three good wins and didnt lose to candy or kentucky
they will jump both teams
head to head is thrown out when there is a triangle of teams that beat one another
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>>145709030
So if it does happen, you'll keep making up more excuses. Got it, thanks for admitting that you're retarded.
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>>145709010
Different Anon here. I don't have any problem with Bama and Ole Miss ahead of UGA. But UGA should be rewarded for their brutal schedule and be ranked ahead of teams like Miami and Notre Dame.
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>>145708418
12 games is enough except for a few hairs that need to be split at the end of the season.
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>>145709011
Was it so hard to copy the FCS national championship model?
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>>145709064
I don't deal in hypotheticals, ND is just going to roflstomp a team with the worst SOS in the country and you will mald
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>>145709074
apparently not.
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>>145708733
Imagine if the gamecocks didn't lose to LSU
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Here's the solution:
Top 52 teams plays 51 games each season, 52nd game is the national championship
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>>145709077
I don't give a flying fuck about national championships in a nation with hundreds of colleges
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>>145709059
>>145709063
Your first mistake was rating Tennessee
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>>145709064
what do you think needs to be excused?
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promotion and relegation is the only way to go
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>>145709099
>if data doesn't fit my conclusion, i just ignore it
feelsgoodman
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>>145709085
Did your crystal ball also tell you that NIU would beat ND? That Vandy would beat Alabama? That Kentucky would beat Ole Miss? You must be richer than Musk, right? You clearly can predict the future, as the only other answer is you're full of shit.
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>>145709116
6 more days, zoggie
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>>145708442
That autist posts this opinion here every month. What happened was he heard Nick Saban talk about how back in his day every player in the SEC didn’t care about anything but playing in the Sugar Bowl, the Pac-12 in the Rose Bowl, etc. When this autist heard this idealized this supposed past and decided that was what college football should be like forever, despite the fact that almost no one who actually lived through that time period agrees with that point of view.
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>>145709127
Not an argument. Thanks for admitting I'm right and you're wrong. I accept your concession. Filtered. Now be a good retard and keep replying, I'll never see it. I know you can't resist, you're already typing.
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let's everybody just calm down here
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>>145709142
Based bot
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>>145709144
shan't
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>>145709144
No you go to heck you go to heck and you die
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>>145708418
This is an actual and unironic galaxy brain take. I agree.
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>>145709099
lol retarded faggot gets raped by his own logic
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>>145709093
No the solution is the conference champion moves on to the playoffs. Simple as that
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>>145709292
OOC is just for bragging rights. don't hate it. Of course, now the conferences are too big to figure out who is the best team within themselves, so that's an issue.
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>>145709289
Tenn = SEC Penn State
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>>145709305
It would get G5s to shut up and stop the retards of the SEC and B1G arguing about spots
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>>145709292
This won't happen because if a G5 team beats a P5 champion in the playoff, it'll shatter CFB and upset the power imbalance. If you think the G5 team in this year's playoff or any future year isn't getting refball'd hard, you're retarded.
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>>145709333
Except they beat SEC Ohio State, whereas PSU lost to B1G Ohio State. so not at all. horrible take.
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>>145709087
It is. Expansion is for reddit.
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>>145709096
You’re almost completely alone in that opinion.
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>>145709010
H2H is fine as a rationale for ranking teams until it starts cancelling itself out. You could say Bama deserves to be ranked ahead of UGA because of the H2H win, but then by the same logic Tennessee also has to be ahead of Bama. But then you can't put Tennessee ahead of UGA either. The whole exercise gets invalidated as these teams beat up on each other.

At the end of the day, how you choose to rate the cluster of 8-2 teams in the SEC just comes down to personal preference, which might be based on eye test, strength of schedule, or some combination of the two.
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>>145709088
Their kicker is going to be run out of town if they win out. Two missed FGs and scar is unironically the second best SEC team
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Army for national.
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>>145709424
you hating expansion doesn't make your assessment on hair splitting correct.
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>>145709367
It’s time for a fucking shake up. It’ll get more eyes on this sport other than the same 4 teams
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>>145709440
And this is why I do not rate Tennessee
>the Massacrers of Kent State
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>>145709144
Suck my balls
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>>145709440
autist here. I pointed out this simple fact a few days ago and multiple people spent 12 hours fighting me. Within a week the shortcomings of H2H presented itself IRL. It's fine if you want to use H2H as a tie breaker so that we are rewarding winning and treating these regular season games as proxy playoffs. But it's a drastically overrated data point for assessing relative quality across a full season.
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>>145709473
>same 4 teams
how old are you and have you been watching this season?
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>>145709134
>>145708442
I should also note there’s no evidence people didn’t care about the national championship before the BCS and there’s a plethora of evidence that they did. For example, Auburn coach Shug Jordan had the AP ballot box stuffed with Auburn votes in 1957 to make sure Auburn won the natty. Hardly the actions of someone who didn’t care about it. In 1984, Oklahoma coach Barry Switzer campaigned to the press that the winner of Washington-Oklahoma should be voted national champion instead of BYU.
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>>145709527
1957 final two polls
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>>145709527
only retards try to claim that people didn't care about the national championship before the BCS. maybe they didn't care quite as much and weren't so singularly focused, but it was still massively important.
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>>145709465
Before the playoff there was broad consensus every single season on who the best teams in the country were. It was always 2-6 teams, save for a few years where there was unanimous consensus on 1 team. All that needs to happen is games between these teams to split the hairs.
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Feel like this was a year we needed an alabama-ole miss matchup
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>>145709560
Well no one ever said this autist >>145708418 wasn’t retarded.
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>>145709594
they tried that for a long time but predictably ran into some issues.
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>>145709523
It’s been the SEC for quite awhile now
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>>145708733
Will be maximum salt and ass pain from start to finish.
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>>145709630
Remind me who is the reigning national champion? And how many current SEC teams were in the championship game last year?
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>>145709545
>Arizona State wins their game
>loses a vote
damn man even back then the Fun Devils got no respect
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>>145708733
>expand your conference to an unmanageable scale to have a money grab
>it's a disaster the very first season
fuck these ADs, conference commissioners, and TV execs
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Are we still getting a UT vs UT SEC chip?
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>>145709668
Worked for the Big Ten, hasn't worked for SEC and Big 12. Really the Big Ten is just the smartest conference.
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>>145709640
Remind how long it took someone else not in the SEC to win it
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>>145709473
Sadly, NIL deals have ruined the power imbalance. Now every good player will go to a P5 top team because that's where all the money is.
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>>145709668
it's going to be hilarious when, after the dust settles on all those 2-conference-loss teams, it's just a Texas-TAMU rematch in the CCG.
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>>145709688
>admitting you're a zoomer
Clemson won like 4 years before michingan . "same 4 teams" keeps changing, which isn't what the word "same" means. People railing about comprehensive SEC dominance are omitting most of history along with the most recent data points. That's not very good for your thesis.
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>>145709716
it's done the literal opposite. There is more dilution of roster quality now than there was when power programs were using bag men behind the scenes and transfers were uncommon.
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>>145709742
that will not happen, if atm wins then it would be atm bama
if bama loses then it would be atm georgia
if texas wins it would be texas bama or texas uga
uga is done in conference play they cant be booted out its either going to be them or bama in vs the winner
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>>145709745
>this one team clearly means it’s not dominant
>NOOOO DONT LOOK AT THE OTHER WINNERS
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>>145709742
I can only get so erect anon
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>>145709780
if atm wins, who of UGA, texas, tenn, ole miss gets left out?
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>>145709772
You honestly think that the top transfers getting NIL deals are going to non-P5 top teams? Point me to one top transfer that went to a mid-tier G5 team.
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>>145709797
https://bball.notnothing.net/sec.php?sport=fb

it would be

1. Texas A&M (7 - 1)
2. Alabama (6 - 2)
Above Georgia, Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Texas based on conference opponent win percentage (0.5).
3. Georgia (6 - 2)
With Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Texas, below Alabama based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4531).
With Tennessee and Texas, above Ole Miss based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (3-0).
Above Tennessee and Texas based on round-robin record due to a round-robin sweep (2-0).
4. Texas (6 - 2)
With Georgia, Ole Miss, and Tennessee, below Alabama based on conference opponent win percentage (0.375).
With Georgia and Tennessee, above Ole Miss based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (3-0).
With Tennessee, below Georgia based on round-robin record due to a round-robin sweep (0-1).
Above Tennessee based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (6-1).
5. Tennessee (6 - 2)
With Georgia, Ole Miss, and Texas, below Alabama based on conference opponent win percentage (0.3594).
With Georgia and Texas, above Ole Miss based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (3-0).
With Texas, below Georgia based on round-robin record due to a round-robin sweep (0-1).
Below Texas based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (5-2).
6. Ole Miss (6 - 2)
With Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas, below Alabama based on conference opponent win percentage (0.375).
Below Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (2-1).
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>>145709784
>one
there's your issue. I'm citing more than one team. You're the one ignoring the other winners in order to make a flawed argument. SEC has been the best conference. Others are still producing elite teams regularly, and it has been a revolving list of teams near the top, not just 4.
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>>145709822
i meant from the cfp
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>>145709848
probably tennessee or texas
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>>145709822
Maybe sec should have kept divisions
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>>145709809
define "top"? Tons of former high level recruits went to g5 and low-end p5 teams. The best transfer last year who went g5 was probably malachi nelson. I suppose the biggest beneficiaries are the second and third tier p5 schools. This has been a major talking point all year about how the elite schools have lost depth.
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>>145709824
Still annoying to see the same teams instead of someone else
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>>145709876
wild that texas is going to be sitting here so high up all year and runs the risk of getting completely removed if they lose to TAMU
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>>145709809
Tate Rodemaker went from being next man up for an FSU team that just went 13-0 to playing for Southern Miss.
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>>145709945
I AM SO TIRED OF ONLY WATCHING
>bama
>georgia
>lsu
>texas
>usc
>michigan
>ohio state
>michigan state
>notre dame
>TCU
>oklahoma
>oregon
>washington
>clemson
>florida state
>auburn
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Why does the AP and CFP Committee treat the B1G with such kid gloves while absolutely killing SEC schools?
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>>145709939
>Boise State
>mid-tier G5 team
NOPE. Try again.

>>145709977
>top transfer
>only played 2 full games in 2023
NOPE
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>>145709961
Imagine how much trash they will throw on the field
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>>145710049
SEC put their brave boys into the meat grinder, and B1G boys inadvertently ducked each other this year. Fewer bad data points for the B1Gfellas even though they are almost certainly not better than the SEC conterparts
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>>145710075
Ah yes, the classic "give me a name but any name you give me won't meet my vague and arbitrary standards so you're wrong and my argument is bulletproof"
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>>145709936
lol
>>145709961
they have no good wins and haven't looked dominant
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>>145710049
Maybe the SEC should stop crabs-in-a-bucketing each other like the Pac-12 used to.
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>>145710075
>change elevates the middle relative to the top
>the shitters are still shitters just like they were
I see. fair enough, but now you're complaining about a change in the balance of power that is actually better for 75% of teams.
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>>145710085
Tbf Texas and A&M both dodged majority of the top SEC and are collectively 0-1 against them
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>>145710103
Boise State is clearly not a mid-tier G5 team. Anyone that only played two games in their college career isn't a top transfer. You're just upset that I was right and now pulling excuses out your ass.
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>>145710085
They both have the stupid, retarded rotation schedule, and the SEC is slightly worse because they only play 8 conference games a year so they can fit in an extra game against Southnorthern Mississouri Technical School for Special needs trans co-eds
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>>145710037
Retard can you not distinguish between appearances vs number of appearances
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>>145710107
yeah that's competely fair, still speaks to the state of affairs that you can realistically just get pooped from 3 or 4 to 13 overnight in the last game of the season.
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>>145710152
sorry, I was just using the correct definition of "same" that must be eluding you. The "same" teams in question have changed over time.
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>tOSU vs Indiana at B1G Noon
What a disaster, hope Indiana gets btfo by 35
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>>145710260
Also if Indiana loses
>italian coaches
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>>145710260
Absolutely retarded, should be a nighttime game but I guess B1G sissies simply cannot compete with Catholic Chads
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>Ole Miss @ Florida 12:00pm
>Texas A&M @ Auburn 7:30pm
kek Lane's gonna FREAK
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>>145710137
100%. That's why Texas is getting the B1G treatment in the polls and committee rankings
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>>145710085
You'd have a better argument if the SEC really was just a circular firing squad at the top, instead of the top teams also losing to Vanderbilt, Kentucky, and Arkansas.
Say what you will about the teams at the top of the B1G, they're not taking Ls from Iowa, Sharty, and Wisconsin.
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>>145710537
that's a fair point.
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>>145709614
That post doesn't say no one cared about nattys
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If you have 2 losses you dont belong in the playoffs. Simple as.
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LSU is gonna love coach prime
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>>145710537
>instead of the top teams also losing to Vanderbilt, Kentucky, and Arkansas.
all three of those teams would go undefeated in the B1G
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>>145710705
>t. crumbum attitude
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>>145710705
This
No conference championship, the playoffs should be reduced in size if there are less than 12 2-loss teams to only include 1-loss teams
So from anywhere from 2 teams to 12 teams a season
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>>145710792
not the sunbelt, though, sadly
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>>145710762
Nah he's going to coach the Cowboys once his kids all get drafted
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>>145710705
I don't disagree but with how the SEC is shaking out, it's basically impossible to avoid a 2-loss team in the playoffs. The only way their champion can have one loss is if Texas wins out, and the committee is NOT going to leave the conference newcomer standing alone in the CFP for the whole conference
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New article just dropped
Deion Sanders to Auburn: The alternate history of Tigers football had Coach Prime been the choice
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/deion-sanders-auburn-alternate-history-tigers-football/77f38ee56b50ef0beb3f46a2
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inb4 BYU somehow stays in the top 12
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>>145710938
SMU is their floor right now, so they probably will be in the top 12
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>BYJew
>EMAW
>Wazzu
>Pooisville
>LSPoo
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thinkin we see something like this
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>>145711084
Just feel like >losing to kansas should be one of those auto-disqualifiers. Luckily Coach Prime will solve that problem in a few weeks.
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>>145711398
>The sixth place team lost twice, including to Vanderbilt
The fuck is this season
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Can we all agree that the two worst teams in college football (by record) should play each other in a Bowl Game? I think it would be hilarious just to see who is the worst team and how shit it can be.
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>>145711656
FSU-Kent State
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>>145711656
Yes
However Kent State would still lose by 30 to the second worst, take your pick who that is
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>ESPN will sublicense Big 12 conference college football and basketball games to Warner Bros. Discovery that it can air on TNT, as well as on its Max streaming service
It's going to be really interesting how ESPN sees Big 12 and ACC in the future for negotiations, and how this will shift out. ACC might get leverage
https://www.on3.com/news/espn-sublicense-big-12-football-basketball-games-tnt-wbd-nba-settlement/
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>>145707653
Indiana's SOS is in the triple digits, they literally avoided every team in the B1G with a pulse outside of Blowhio St. If they get boatraced they absolutely should not be considered for the playoff.
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>>145711450
Just like losing to Georgia Tech
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>>145711905
But if Indiana blows out Ohio State, they'll still make the playoff as it'll be a "quality loss". It's all rigged bullshit.
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>>145711961
quality losses are meaningful if you have a bunch of positive data points. I don't know if you understand the term.
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>>145711715
Kennesaw State somehow beat Liberty, so you're probably right. Have the bowl game be sponsored by some Septic/waste management company.
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ESPN playoff predictor as of 11/17
Only 23 teams are still potentially eligible for the playoffs (which they haven't edited the text on the top header yet kek). Oregon has 100% locked in their spot in the CFP, with Indiana at a 97% chance can lock their spot this weekend
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>>145712017
Quality loss means nothing when it's 100% based on rankings, which are rigged as fuck. It's why a bunch of shitty SEC & Big 10 teams keep getting ranked, so the rest have "quality wins" and "quality loses".
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>>145708733
Honestly expected OU and A&M to be swapped.
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1. Oregon (13-0) wins B1G
2. Texas (12-1) wins SEC
3. SMU (12-1) wins ACC
4. Colorado (11-2) wins Big12
5. Notre Dame (11-1)
6. Penn State (11-1)
7. Indiana (11-1) lose B1G
8. Ohio State (11-2)
9. Alabama (10-2) lose SEC
10. Ole Miss (10-2)
11. Georgia (10-2)
12. Boise State (12-1) wins MW
KWABS
>13. Miami (10-2) lose ACC
>14. BYU (10-2) lose Big12
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>>145712109
damn I wish there were a bunch of sharps and nerds who would publish some really helpful data points that you can use to assess quality of performance.
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>>145712224
>quality of performance
Which would be based on whom they believe is a quality opponent (again, see rigged as fuck). Otherwise, it would just be about which team has the best point differential.
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>>145712338
>Which would be based on whom they believe is a quality opponent
that's incorrect, and I suspect that this is why you're confused.
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>>145712371
What is a "quality of performance"? If it involves ranking at all, then it's rigged bullshit.
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>>145710537
Not from a lack of trying, those teams just routinely find ways to LOSE games rather than win them - See Oregon vs Wisconsin last night.
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Quality of academics should matter too
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>>145711656
Actually we need a terrible team playoff. FAU, FSU, Purdue, Kennesaw State, UMass, Kent State, Mississippi State, and Southern Miss.
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>>145712404
you should look into ELO, sagarin, and other systems that grade based on performance and opponent performance. And if you want to dismiss the quality of those analytics, then i you should look at the ATS record of underdogs and favorites that are based on the predictions of people who use those sorts of analytics.

For what it's worth, the committee looks at these things when they assess team quality (and thus opponent quality). They aren't just pulling things out of their asses. There's discrepancy between computer models and committee/poll rankings of course, and a meaningful fraction of that variance is attributable to ranking/brand-induced bais
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>>145710075
this nigga actually thinks people watch college ball and say "man I would love this if there were more parity. But Indiana, Vanderbilt, Boise State Tulane and Boston College just have too big an advantage over UMass and Middle Tennessee".
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>>145712702
So all subjective shit that leads to rigging. Got it.
>he committee looks at these things when they assess team quality
You have zero proof they actually do.
>They aren't just pulling things out of their asses
They're just rigging the rankings to make money. It's a business, their ONLY goal is to make as much money as possible. They will rig the rankings to get as many moneymaker teams in as possible and create matchups that maximize money. If you think anything else, you're actually retarded.
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>>145712975
Cool strawman. Try again without the fallacies.
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if West Virginia goes 5-7 this season then as sad as it is being my final year here

the worst era of modern West Virginia football is over
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>>145713000
you might be too stupid to post.
>So all subjective shit that leads to rigging. Got it.
net success rate, margin of victory, yards per play margin etc are not subjective. they are the opposite.

>You have zero proof they actually do.
This is easy to verify, and you are wrong. Aside from the committee explaining their selection process in the past, see: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-playoff-selection-process-how-the-committee-will-choose-the-first-12-team-field. It's come up again and again. Before the CFP, the BCS explicitly used computer models in their ranking system.44

You have a lot of growing up to do, retard.
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>>145713027
well your complaint about power imbalance wasn't about the best G5 and lower tier P5 teams getting an advantage, which they have. it was about the worst teams getting left further behind. Not sure my jokepost was a strawman, but rather an example of what you necessarily think
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>Win game
>Get fired
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>>145712694
Now here's a playoff with some chest hair
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>USC loses #1 QB/#2 player in the class of 2025
STINKIN CRYLY
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>>145713141
>the committee says it so it must be true
You're actually retarded. So you believe everything politicians say? Hope you max vaxx'd. Proof would be videos of them going through all that data and then ranking the teams. There is ZERO video evidence of anything.
>You have a lot of growing up to do, retard.
Says the retard that believes everything people say and doesn't understand the sole purpose of a business.
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>2025 5* QB Julian Lewis decommits from USC

>2025 5* QB Husan Longstreet has flipped his commitment from Texas A&M to USC

Well. Ok
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>>145713184
>it was just a joke I swear
Thanks for admitting that you're wrong, and I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered. Now be a good retard and reply, I'll never see it. I know you can't resist, you're already typing.
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>>145713333
He's a 4* tho
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>>145713301
so they just make up an elaborate lie to make you think they use it? and it's just a weird conincidence that their rankings often seem to reflect the data? And for some reason you are dumb enough to think that aTm is less valuable than ole miss or SMU? You called game stats "subjective" two posts ago. Don't call other people retards, sillygoose
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>>145713371
So you do believe everything politicians say? Got it. All I needed to know. Thanks for admitting I'm right and you're wrong. I accept your concession. Filtered. Now be a good retard and reply more, I'll never see it. I know you can't resist, you're already typing.
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>>145713414
>get btfo in huge way
>ditch your previous stance completely
>start frantically making shit up in a poor attempt to deflect
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I don't think the G6 should break away from the P4, but I do think the G6 should make an NIT style tournament with the 2nd-17th best G6 schools
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>>145713503
would watch.
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>Others receiving votes: Missouri 56
stop doing this
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>>145713586
new rankings when
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>>145703352
I thought BYU's qb was god's chosen what happened
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>>145713613
https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
now
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>>145713651
>https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
I don't see it, I only get Week 12
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>>145713651
>Georgia over Ole Miss
it's all so tiresome
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>>145713679
delete your cookies or something idk, it's out
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>>145713570
More football, and potentially more money for smaller schools? What's to lose?
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What the cfp would be if it wasn't rigged
Rankings not seeding
-- Good teams toss up --
>1. Old Piss
>2. Jawja
>3. Alerbamer
>4. Tennessee
-- Frauds --
>5. Texass
>6. Cryiami
>7. Oregon
>8. Blowhio State
-- Underrated but will choke --
>9. Indiana
>10. Souf Carolina
-- Meme teams for lulz --
>11. SMU
>12. Boise State
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>>145713713
this. UGA has be below Bama and Ole Miss. UGA has to be above Tennessee. Tennessee has to be above Alabama.
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Coach Primate
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>>145703720
I didn't watch, I was listening, Sark and the interviewer were talking about it happening on a 4th down play that he scrambled and instead of sliding or going out of bounds, he lowered the shoulder and got the first down
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>>145713651
still receiving votes :)
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>>145703930
B12 is autobid
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>>145704064
for vegas
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>>145713805
it's not, but the committee might not have the stones to do realize this.
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>>145713763
>this is what sister fuckers actually believe
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>145713805
Born just in time to see 3 loss B12 champ #4 seed Colorado
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>>145704016
might take Miami and just hedge against them with opponent team total over every game.
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>>145713679
>4 big10 teams in the top 5

sus
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>>145713843
Yankoids have won 2 championships in the last 2 decades cope and seethe
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>>145713763
here's your you

texas and it's little brother own your conference, you never should've invited them
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>>145713795
Syracuse shouldn't have a team after they bent the knee to the feminist and changed their name from Orangemen to Orange.
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>>145713902
>gets btfo whenever they play actual teams
What did he mean by this?
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>>145713926
sorry, we can't all play tennessee tech and mercer
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>>145703930
ASU is in if they win out. You post in this shitty genny every single day and you don't know what an autobid is
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So, despite me dropping the deets last time on the WVU coaching situation last thread here's an opinion question

Who would (You) like to see as the new HC of the West Virginia Mountaineers next season? Why?
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>>145713976
they would probably leapfrog tulane, and army is unlikely to beat both ND and navy. But i wouldn't be so confident. Big XII is way too close to being shut out of the playoffs
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>>145713976
ASU-CU ccg should be kino and one of them will get a top 5 seed holy kek
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>>145714036
Army doesn't have to beat Navy, they play after the playoffs are decided
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>>145714062
lol that's even worse for BigXII but they're probably still fine. that would be so fuckin funny if the BigXII champ gets gazumped and then Army Loses to Navy
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Reminder: This is last chance for Biden to attend the Army-Navy Game. If he doesn't, he'll be breaking a streak since HW Bush of a president attending at least one Army-Navy Game.

2nd Reminder: Trump is the ONLY President-Elect to attend the Army-Navy Game
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>>145713912
is Orangemen some kind of sexist slang or something?
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>>145714143
Women got mad that it wasn't Orangewomen for their sports that nobody gives a fuck about. So the compromise was to just change the name to Orange. Yes, women ruin everything. Anyone that bends the knee deserves the worst fate possible.
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>>145713956
Texas has played 1 currently ranked team and lost to them at home by 2 scores LMAO
AtM has played 2 currently ranked team and lost to them both by 5 combined scores L M A O
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>Penn St. in the Top 5
For what reason? For what fucking purpose?
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>>145714203
and yet, they're still 1 and 2 in the SEC....
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>>145714237
To get delusional boomer fanbase ad revenue same as ND
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>>145714237
They'll go 11-1 with a bye and host a playoff game and there is nothing anyone can about it
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>>145714203
desu BTFO two teams that are in the 20-30 range is more impressive than simply winning against two teams that are in the 20-25 range
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>>145714237
They have their scheduled loss out of the way, and they want the Happy Valley playoff game
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>>145714259
That says more about how you can cheese schedules with expanded conferences than anything, retard-kun
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>>145714203
>currently ranked team
imagine rooting for a conference
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The AP currently doesn't matter, right?
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>>145714237
Money & Rigging. Those are always the answers.
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>>145714282
Delusional cope
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>>145714237
They have one of the best records, a good strength of schedule, top 10 offense, top 10 defense, and they haven't lost to teams like Arkansas/Vanderbilt.
Their strength of record puts them about exactly where they are.
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>>145714330
no horse in this race. "ranked wins" is the type of stat you bring up while drooling on the floor.
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>>145714315
[Deleted]
It's been like 5 years and I still don't know what that acronym means
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>>145714302
Meaningless numbers
1-4 go to conf. champs end of story.
5-6 go to Penn State and ND because memes
7-11 go to "best" 2 loss teams
#12 seed is designated for Boise State
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>>145714422
What if Boise State finishes ahead of either the ACC or XII champs
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>>145714438
you're telling me that I tried to simplify this like a badass but wound up making a stupid oversight?
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>>145714143
Orangeman was a Dutch thing
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>>145714461
You also omitted a potential 1 loss Indiana/Oregon, but I get what you're saying.
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>>145714438
I don't make the rules, anon. The rules say top 4 seeds go to P4 conference champs, Boise will get in but as an at-large because MW is a virgin G8 conference
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>>145714237
Advanced stats are no longer confined to the field. Major sports leagues now have enough data to show that certain fanbases spend more money if they team is ranked in at certain threshold. They don't think Penn St is a top 5 team, they just want that extra week of revenue from their retarded fans before they get kwabbed back to the Squatty Potty Bowl game where they belong
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>>145714493
>he rules say top 4 seeds go to P4 conference champs
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>>145714487
You say this, but the school disagrees. Granted, Syracuse literally went from
>Dog Mascot
>Goat Mascot
>Native Mascot
>Gladiator mascot
>Fruit Mascot
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>>145714493
The rules say the top 4 seeds go to the top 4 conference champions, while the 5th highest conference champion is guaranteed a playoff spot. Theoretically they can go 1-2-3-4-5, but it's likely to almost always be 1-2-3-4-12
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>>145714535
>he thinks Injuns are native
Stop falling for the propaganda
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>>145714527
Hurr state will get in but #12 is their designated spot unless they lose to Tulane in which case Tulane is the #12 seed
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>>145714493
that's wrong.
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>>145714535
>Fruit Mascot
do not eat the otto
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>>145714589
Unless of course, they finish ahead of the Big XII champions, which they currently are projected to do
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>>145714609
>cheerleaders & dance squad girls always have small tits
Why? Where are all the ones with big milkers that bounce all over the place?
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>>145714589
this general never ceases to amaze me with the sort of loud retards that it attracts.
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>>145714663
lined up outside DaVonte's dorm room waiting for their daily dose after the game
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>>145714663
it's the sports wear, it compresses them down, a lot, sometimes painfully so

the 2 on the far side of the orange are D and DD
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>>145714763
this guy knows
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>>145714763
WWE women wear pushup bras and it still keeps them from bouncing everywhere. Why can't cheerleaders and dance squad do the same? If I'm not hard during the performance, they're doing it wrong. I want a cheer squad that I can watch with one hand in my pants.
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>>145714302
RIP Mormies
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>>145715193
They were pretty mad after the first poll came out and they were 2 spots ahead of Boise state for this very reason
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>How the CFP will look assuming nothing changes the next two weeks and the higher ranked team wins their conference championships
>based on AP poll
1. Oregon (B1G Champ)
2. Texas (SEC Champ)
3. Miami (ACC Champ)
4. Bosie State (MW Champ)

5 Pedo State vs 12 BYU

6 Indiana vs 11 Ohio State (lol rematch in Columbus)

7 Notre Dame Vs 10 Tennessee

8 Ole Miss vs 9 Georgia (lol rematch in Oxford

8-12 seeding are all dependent on how much the committee gives a shit about SOS.
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>>145715265
Why would Ohio state be below Penn State?
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>>145715289
2 losses vs 1 loss
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>>145715289
retard thinks tennessee is getting in over bama, ignore him
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>>145715301
For some reason I assumed Indiana would win the game, but you're right on that regard
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>>145715265
Oregon and Texas kwabbing their new conferences is would be funny
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>>145715265
For the PSU fans here
>If Oregon wins the B1G, Penn State hosts a playoff game against BYU/Boise/Tulane
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>>145714302
Based Bert. You can't keep a good man down
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>>145715303
In this scenario, you think a 3 loss Alabama team would be ahead of a two loss Tennessee who they lost to?
Is there heavy metal in your drinking water or something?
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>>145715383
5th and 6th seeds spots aren't bad at all, it's a nice route to the semis
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>>145715464
>2 loss
they're losing to vandy
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>>145715467
6th seed is much tougher than 5th seed though. 5th seed is going to be a smaller school coming to your home, while the 6 seed is likely going to be a battle tested SEC school
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>>145715527
rather, the 6 seed will face a battle tested SEC school
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>>145715342
I do not see Texas being favored to win the SECCG regardless of who they end up playing.
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>>145715562
that's because you're retarded
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>>145715562
Yeah they're frauds but I like the idea of SEC adding them for revenue/ratings reasons and Georgia/Bama getting kicked out of their appointment slot as the top seed every year
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I still have hope Huskerbros. Wisconsin and Iowa are definitely good but their rush-heavy offenses are a good matchup for us. We just need to remember who we are and play good football and we will turn the tide and break the curse.
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>>145715265
Georgia could easily end up playing a December road game in the rust belt.

CFP committee needs to carefully think about how much emphasis they want to put on schedule strength. Notre Dame, Indiana and Pedo have trash schedules this year.
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>>145715759
>trash
they aren't nearly as difficult as georgia, but you undermine your own argument with silly hyperbole
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>>145715663
Or he just looked at the Vegas odds and observed how they're not favored against Bama, UGA or Ole Piss on a neutral field.
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>>145715788
Who have any of those teams beaten?
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>>145715841
because vegas has never missed
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>>145715865
aTm, Lousiville, USC, illinois
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>>145715881
You've definitely missed the point of what I'm saying.
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>>145715788
Indiana has played 1 team that has above .500 winning % and that team is 6-5. There's probably 20 teams in CFB who would be undefeated with that schedule.
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>>145715918
USC might not even make a bowl game right now
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>>145715881
they're smarter than you by an enormous margin
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncf/odds-history/results/

That aside, anon cited the probably favorite, at which point you called him retarded, then when pushed on this you pivoted and just said vegas is wrong. basically waving a retard flag.
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>>145715759
sister fuckers once again arguing that losses shouldn't matter
you can't get BTFO multiple times in a season and then cry when people don't think you are the best team in the world
SEC wasn't even in the championship game last year and they aren't going to make it this year either
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>>145715973
fair enough, they keep shitting the bed, but they aren't an easy victory.

>>145715957
>make a claim about three teams
>with very different SoS among them
>when this gets mocked, only respond with a point about one of the three teams
cmon dummy
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>>145716043
I wasn't the anon who made a claim. I was just making sure you all know Indiana is a paper tiger and will be dismantled playing a real team.
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>>145716107
ok then your post added absolutely nothing.
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>>145716120
>absolutely nothing
kind of like Indiana's competition this year, no?
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>>145716159
yes, you're roughly on par with the thing that you're mocking
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>>145716043
5-5 is not a example of a good team by any measure, their only good win was against a total letdown LSU team who's also 5-5 now
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I still hate the playoff, and I refuse to accept them over the classic bowl game systems
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>>145716305
>by any measure
that's incorrect, and that's where you keep fucking up. you have repeatedly made claims that go too far to remain credible.
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>>145716033
You shouldn't go through the year playing cupcakes then getting rewarded for it. How many Big ten teams would have the same record as Georgia with the same schedule?
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>>145716319
someone is gonna run a report to the committee this week. The unemployed autist that they've been monitoring won't accept the new system. they'll have to alert the commissioners and revert to the old way to appease him
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>>145716332
B1G cope posting
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>>145716398
Excuse me, I'm not unemployed. I work at the Culvers on 89th
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>>145716033
>SEC wasn't even in the championship game last year and they aren't going to make it this year either
Pretty bold words in a year where half of these teams haven't beaten anyone inside the top 25 right now.
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>>145716410
why would someone need to cope with a high ranking?
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>>145716385
lol SEC teams play 8 conference games and almost all play FCS teams for an extra bye week
Georgia literally got thrown into the playoff last year despite not playing anyone
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>>145716575
>Georgia literally got thrown into the playoff last year despite not playing anyone
Things this did not happen
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>>145716535
maybe bold for your trailer park
SEC fans think losing to a team that lost to georgia state is a quality loss
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>>145716554
>USC i-is g-good guys I swear
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>>145716636
deflection is concession
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>The problem with the Playoff is it's 100% decided by media narratives and potential TV ratings. They do this same shit in baseball and basketball tournament.

>The Playoff should be the top 12 teams. Top 4 teams get byes. No G5 DEI spot or need to have an ACC or Big12 team if none are worthy. (There is no Big12 or ACC team worthy this year as it stands if we're being 100) Conference championship games should be eliminated. They're useless now.
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If you're into clown world chaos, this is what you're rooting for starting next week
>Arizona State beats BYU
>Kansas beats Colorado
>Army beats Notre Dame
>Boise wins out and gets autobid
>Arizona State and Iowa State win their last game, and both make the conference championship. Choose whoever to win
>Army beats Tulane in AAC championship
In this scenario, it is almost certain Big 12 is eliminated from the playoffs in favor of Army
>Bonus: Army loses to Navy the week after selection sunday but are in the playoffs anyway
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>>145716655
You literally deflected from your own USC post and tried to play it off as if we were talking about trash teams being overranked.

What an argument.
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>>145716655
So you're admitting you're wrong now?
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>>145716655
wtf are you even trying to say?
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>>145716705
oops, you should read better if you're going to respond, because you seem confused. I never deflected. USC has shit the bed this year, but they are a good team by some measures, which flatly contradicts your claim that they are not a good team "by any measure". They haven't executed and shouldn't be rewarded or regarded. However, they are good enough that there's value to defeating them. Same with teams like LSU, South Carolina, and Auburn, btw. They are all talented enough to give top teams a handful somewhat regularly. They are all also inconsistent enough to blow numerous games per year.
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>>145716769
assuming a samefag. doubt multiple people could think that my post was a deflection in any way.
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>>145716839
add oklahoma to this list too
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Colorado is going to get a 5* QB (#2 player in class) that just decomitted from USC but visited Colorado and has them as their other option
Colorado is going to remain insanely good and if playoffs don't happen next year there's a good chance they do next year
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What exactly does Deion Sanders do as a coach? He's not a scheme guy, he's not a recruiter, he's uhh, a... black guy?
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>>145717283
hype man
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>>145717231
Only is Deion stays the coach. If he leaves for the NFL so he can draft his son, then the QB will commit somewhere else, and a ton of players will transfer. They'll go back to being irrelevant immediately.
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>>145717316
He will, this is just a clickbait meme for now. Every analyst says no NFL team is interested in a coach who is currently 12–10 in FBS
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>>145717387
Not sure about that, given your season ticket & ticket sales in general will skyrocket for the first year at least. If he bombs out after that, who cares? Just fire him and he'll be just another college coach that couldn't hack it in the NFL.
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>>145717472
interesting angle. it would have to be one of those owners who cares more about making money than performance, and it can't be one of the really old dudes in "win now" mode. Maybe could see the bears or jets pulling some shit like this
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>>145717515
Cleveland doesn't give a fuck about winning and will take anyone, obviously. Giants are a factory of sadness, so they don't care.
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>>145717472
Which is why the Dallas claim is retarded - they don't need any more views/interest when they are the richest sports team on the planet
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>>145717807
jerry also is looking to win urgently, I don't think it makes any sense either.
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>>145717807
I don't think Deion is going to the NFL unless he can have his kid, which means the team needs to have a Top 2 pick. Cleveland and the NY Giants are most likely.
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Yank*es seething itt we get it you live in a frozen shithole and are dealing with vit D deficiency but it's not our fault you are trash at football
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>>145714302
>B12 cannabalizing itself
>Unlv ranked
Boise is actually getting the 4 seed lmao
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>>145714302
>Illinois Ranked again to give Penn State a quality win
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>>145718039
Quit noticing the rigging, goy.
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>pac 12 dies
>mw becomes a P4
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We’re gonna get Colorado at Notre Dame in the first round of the playoffs with the winner playing Boise State. Pure unadulterated kino.
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>>145718138
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>>145718039
NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO LEAVE IN MISSOURI
DON'T YOU KNOW THEY BEAT UMASS
HOW ARE WE GOING TO OVERRATE OUR SHIT SEC TEAMS NOW
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>>145718140
>Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire
who do they support?
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>>145718253
Now that ATM is out, there's no need to protect Pizzou
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>>145718255
FBS wise? No clue. They still have their own colleges there with football.
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>>145718255
each of those states has an FCS school they probably cheer for
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The FBS isn't legit until every single one of the lower 48 states has an FBS school
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>>145718255
Notre dame and bama, soulless soibois, they sit to piss
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>>145718371
NDSU is too pussy to move up
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>>145718268
Reffies got the call, SEC needs more teams in the playoffs.
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West Virginia may have been on a crap streak in football but at least we just got this as a consolation

Sun Belt Regular Season and SBC Tournament Champs
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>>145718371
You have to scrape Division III to get a school from Vermont for that idea of yours.
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Muh Cawks
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>>145719254
Can they beat Kent State? If yes, bring them up.
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>>145719254
Make the call
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>>145719261
what kind of sloppy shotgun is this
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>Dude Oregon/Notre Dame/Texass/AtM/Pedo State are totally legit this year!
How much longer must this humiliation ritual continue
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>>145719531
>Alabama is still legit!
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>>145719580
No one is saying that though they're having a down season. They've won 6 championships under Saban. How many have any of the teams I listed won?
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>>145719531
>zoomer complaining about things being tiresome
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>>145719776
Seems I mentioned your team sorry you're ass an irrelevant but I'm not gonna pretend otherwise
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>>145719710
How many of them had a Nick Saban caliber coach?
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>>145719810
you would've said the same thing about michigan last year. you think the last 10 years are 50 years long.
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>[random group of however many school who has played FCS-tier competition] totally deserves to get a first round bye! the expansion was supposed to fix this!
lmaoing@urlife.fag
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>>145719254
Or force Vermont to reinstate
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>>145719838
>dude we would have been good if we just had better players and coaches it's not our fault lmao
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>>145719905
FCS competition? You talking about SEC out of conference schedules?
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>>145719961
Talking about the b12's, AAC's, etc. regular in-conference schedules, acktually.
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>>145719961
Please tell us one school from your meme conference that played a tough out of conference schedule
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>>145720014
What confuses me is all the shilling for Army of all fucking teams.
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>>145719864
I did not sure what your point is B10 have a championship tier team once every decade and spend the other 9 years being frauds I'm going to doubt them until they play actual competition and win
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>>145720014
Every Big 10 team plays 9 conference games instead of 8 and almost all of them play extra p4 games and no FCS games.
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>>145720076
The current SEC teams have the same staff and similar players as the ones that got overrated last year and completely shut out of the championship game.
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>>145720096
Because Western Michigan is just a paragon of football power, right
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>>145720161
>>145720161
new, improved
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>>145720171
Wrong poll, dumbass.
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>>145720139
insanely better than kennesaw state and mercer, yes
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>>145720206
Not in this reality.
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>>145720206
Kennesaw is FBS, dumbass.
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>>145720247
they are the absolute bottom of the fbs
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>>145720323
Kent State is the absolute bottom



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