OVARI DA, Motorsport basically dies for a weekAll times ET>Friday, December 421:00 24H series Middle East: 12H of Sepang, PETRONAS Sepang International Circuit>Sunday, December 68:00 Formula 1, Rd 24/24, 'Abu Dhabi Grand Prix', Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates (Season Final)"> More races (not that there will be too much else)raceday.watch> Sheet and other goodieshttps://pastebin.com/D9ZzLBrv
> ASIAN Le Mans SeriesRaces in the middle east> 24h series MIDDLE EASTRaces in Malaysia
We entering the barren winter of motorsportsThank god for handegg
>>152241916I pasted this last thread:>Friday, December 59:00 PM: 24H Series, Rd ME3/3, '12H Malaysia', Sepang International Circuit, Sepang, Malaysia (Season Final)>Saturday, December 612:05 PM: Formula E, Rd 1/17, 'São Paulo ePrix', São Paulo Street Circuit, São Paulo, Brazil (Season Start)>Sunday, December 78:00 AM: Formula 1, Rd 24/24, 'Abu Dhabi Grand Prix', Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates (Season Final)>Saturday, December 131:00 AM: Asian LMS, Rd 1/6, '4 Hours of Sepang #1', Sepang International Circuit, Sepang, Malaysia (Season Start)>Sunday, December 1412:00 AM: 'Gulf 12 Hours', Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates1:00 AM: Asian LMS, Rd 2/6, '4 Hours of Sepang #2', Sepang International Circuit, Sepang, Malaysia
sports car racing has no offseasonhttps://sportscar365.com/lemans/asian-lms/48-cars-confirmed-for-sepang-curtain-raiser/https://sportscar365.com/lemans/asian-lms/abel-to-make-lmp2-debut-with-vector-sport-rlr/https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/11/30/porsche-announces-2026-motorsports-activities.html
Also this>BBM Sport has taken delivery of a pair of wingless Peugeot 9X8s ahead of the team’s planned privateer Hypercar entry in the 2026-27 Asian Le Mans Series season.>A video posted to social media by the Bob Berridge-led operation shows the two cars, still in the livery with which they competed across 2023 and 2024, being loaded into a truck for transport to the team’s U.K. base.>As previously reported by Sportscar365, BBM is plotting to run up to two cars in the Asian championship next year, with Greek Bronze-rated racer Kriton Lendoudis named as the first driver.>BBM already had previous involvement in Peugeot’s current factory FIA World Endurance Championship Hypercar operation and also campaigns older machinery from the French manufacturer in historic racing.
>>152244925that is such a great livery
>>152242030Anon, I know you love your heckin' kawaii animoo girls, but Asiancovers a bit more than Japan, China and Korean.
>>152243175>1:00 AM: Asian LMS>1:00 AM: Asian LMS
>>152245530it covers more than UAE and Malaysia too
>>152245853Well, I guess those other countries need to embrace the glory and supremacy of Allah.
>>152245530im just using the geography knowledge of the burger who always seething about alms 99 percent racing in the middle east lolalso i hate anime
>>152245603No worries. It was alright, but yeah, once they got separated, it was just flat out with very little trouble. Anyhow, I have enjoyed watching these races with you and I look forward to watching them again next season. I'll be around all winter to share and look for whatever South African club race or Canadian skidoo ramping competition or whatever else we can dig up to pass the next month and a half. Keep us posted on any news about the new V8 or any changes. I'm excited to see Fraga in a Mustang GTD and of course Nasr in the Porsche in a month and a half. Any more Brazilian in IMSA this year?>34 days until Dakar >54 days until Daytona
I need videos of racing vibeshttps://youtu.be/bE3tGdR4Oks
REMINDER to get your hotels and tickets now, schedules are being published for every series.
>>152246684Glad you enjoyed fren, but it's not over yet: we still have more races in December:>December 6: Endurance Brasil 4 Horas de Brasília (Season Finale)>December 7: Copa Truck at Interlagos (Season Finale)>December 13: Turismo Nacional at Interlagos (Season Finale) (Shitbox Race)>December 14: Stock Car at Interlagos (Season Finale)>December 14: 12 Horas de Tarumã (midnight start local time) (includes shitboxes)
YOUZA DORKBRRT BRRT BRRT
>Ogier gets another WRC title even after not participating in the full season
cute kot
>>152247407Based. I look forward to more Brazilian vrooms in the coming weeks.
>>152246850Going to Long Beach grand prixDon't need a hotel because I live a 15 minute drive away
Since we're talking about Asian races...What car racing competitions are there in South Korea?I've heard of the Radical Cup Korea, but it's not exclusive to Korea like Super Formula is to Japan.Could someone with expertise in Asian racing give me some information?Any sites to watch live?
>>152250299BAT GTKorea GTSuperrace
>>152250390Thank youhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superrace_ChampionshipNow I must to find some site for the live streaming
Wtf...What is this?https://en.namu.wiki/w/%EC%8A%88%ED%8D%BC%EB%A0%88%EC%9D%B4%EC%8A%A4%20%ED%94%84%EB%A6%AC%EC%8A%A4%ED%83%80%EC%9D%BC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kogjNCToC34
>>152246850Eh, I'd like to go to a race, but there's none near me in any national/international series, and I don't like to travel.
>>152250299https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nZaEZObINkThey race prius too
Superrace could be very interesting lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PUJ2CyVUTI
>>152251142Wow,it's very coolThank you very much for the official channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@superrace_official
Wish this show didn't look like shit
8 months to the Rally of Japan
>>152252835>that window number placementkek
>>152252885>>152252835>>152252371>>152252719nice
I just realized next year will be still sardinia and not roma...then it will be rally saud arabia for me next year
YNR Jaguar I-Pace eTrophy
>>152249520Are you doing the entire weekend or just the Indy race?
>>152250778It would apper to be a reality show where they buy and build a car to race.
reminder that the Antitrust Lawsuit 500 at the Western District Court Speedway in North Carolina begins today
>>152256653Who's on pole?
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/12/01/59-cars-entry-for-6h-abu-dhabi.htmlhttps://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/12/01/22-car-gt3-grid-for-gulf-12-hours-confirmed.html
>>152256828judge bell on pole and the field has been set, 9 qualified, 21 went home, seems like it was tough to make the field>One person said he used to watch but now NASCAR is killing NASCAR. Judge Bell couldn’t cut him off fast enough and he was asked to leave. He pointed at MJ on the way out.
>>152256653They shouldn't even let these retards into the courthouse. Just give both sides a case of moonshine and tell them to fight it out in the woods. Boss Hogg will come by in the afternoon to record the result.
>Lotus helped us design thisLotus helped you scribble lines on an airfield? Airfields are terrible track locations.
one of the best out of context bits from the new more than machine episode kek
>>152246850Way ahead of you friendoIf anyone wants to be at the N24 2026 you better be quick with your tickets. Last year already had record attendance, this year will be better/worse once Verstappen confirms his entry>>152249520nice
What's the North Korean motorsports scene like?
>>152258764not any grimmer than the worst korea car and racing scene
I only noticed that WRC already ended today, but just as I expected some months ago, Ogier won the championship despite missing 3 rounds. What a beast he was this season.
>>152247407There's also NASCAR Brazil's Season Finale this weekend. I'll give it a watch because I miss muh /turnleft/.
>>152255664Depends on how much the tickets cost, I plan to go to as much as possible
>>152246850>tfw got laid off and probably won't be able to afford to go to Road America next yearreeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>152255664>>152259190This actually spurred me to actually go buy them... got two tickets for the whole weekend with reserved seats for Sat/Sun right past the start/finish lineThere is zero chance of me not getting a photo with the Firehawk
>>152259083Completely forgot about NASCAR Brasil, thanks Portubro. For races like these I wish Interlagos still had the old layout with the outer ring.
>>152260873Turnleft around a track that goes to turn 11 or 12 would be pretty wild (not sure if you would divide the kinks into 2 "turns")
What's the longest track that has ever hosted a NASCAR race? The old GP circuit had a length of 7.8 km and it was insane. Here's a 1988 Stock Car race at that layout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVRqYZmEjb4
>>152261542I think it's Augusta International Raceway, 3 miles/ 4.8 km, used only once in 1964.
>>152261713Road America and the Daytona road course are longer than that
>>152261542According to the list on Wikipedia, the Daytona Beach course was slightly longer than Road America to take that title.
>>152261806I never noticed Road America was that long. Maybe because I only watch IMSA and IndyCar races there.>>152260873Forgot to mention, any modern driver would shit their pants going full throttle from Subida dos Boxes to turn 3, it was that crazy.
>>152258964for me it was randomly seeing groups of these bad boys
>>152255674InterestingWhere can I see it?On youtube there are only trailers
>>152265129weird latvala
how does the part time guy beat the full time guy? surely by entering more rallies that should mean more points?
WRC should have indestructible puncture proof tyres.
Taka Airlines is back in business.
What is the point of the Rally1 ruleset without the hybrid?Reduced aero, a return to a sequential gearbox from paddle shift? WRC could have kept using the WRC regs cars it was using before.And the teams had to spend money redesigning the cars without the hybrid and then development and bringing upgrades to the hybrid-less version when you originally planned on having hybrid. And it seems like there's no hype for the new regulations coming up. WRC has been trying to get a new manufacturer to join since Citronen left.
>>152266485bring back Group A
>>152266626 Nobody knew in 2020-22 that the hybrid will be dropped because compact dynamics tries to milk the manufacturers dry with price hikes. Hybridless rally1 is still 200BHP stronger and way more advanced than rally2. The difference in spectacle both if you watch onboards or you spectate stageside is huge between the twoThe big advantage of the Rally1 compared to previous regs that it does not need a production chassis so for example ford didnt have to leave bc they only produce pig suvs now (the puma road car is actually too big), and with this they could also improve the safety of the cars with this safety cell. Neuville took tthat safety to a test when he fell down into a a river in testing (in hindsight this was a pivotal moment in the hyundai being homologated very untested and carrying issues still not resolved due to that. Similarly of the Lambo lmdh saga), then 4Max at monte when he rolled into a 100m drop at high speed.Also there was a fair bit of cost reduction: The suspension, aero and transmission got dumbed down (one of the reasons Neuvile spent a whole year throwing shit on the new regs until someone somewhere.These all (plus bringing in the hybrid) was to cater to the manufacturers both keeping the current ones happy and bringing in new ones (lol). The teams only got aggrevated after the car industry started to get into a slump again and the spec hybrid got very pricey
>>152266505One of the hungarian official photographers for WRC captured the moment when th e bootlid fell off
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/tincknell-valkyries-continued-improvement-incredible/
>>152267488>until someone somewhere.+ shut him down)Also forgot to mention that when the talks between FIA and the manfacturers started about the 2027 regs back in 2023 and even for a fair time the meta was that hybrid wont just stay but the output power and battery capacity will be fairly increased. Hyundai still wants hybrid and they are doing their political games and lobbying at FIA to bring earlier the introduction of the alternative propulsions into wrc27 which was rumored to be the 2029 season
>>152266626why do you want to kill the series? The last group a years were the worst seasons of the sport with 2 factory teams and the shortest seasons (bar coof years) everWRC regs brought back the championship from the brink of death
le group B was unregulated/barely regulated bro>3) fittings and modifications allowed>All those allowed for Group A with some modifications>200 road cars vs 5000>up to 100kg lighter>1 inch wider tire
>>152267493the power of Steam™
>>152263380It's still better than all the eggshit crossovers being pumped out.
>>152259190>>152260113Based. I recommend carefully studying the detailed event schedule ahead of time and planning accordingly. Keep your eyes open for promotions, excuses me, """activations""" going on that aren't on the schedule. IDK what the Long Beach scene is like, but typicall, there are some pretty cool giveaways and DO NOT miss the IMSA drivers signing, it's free for everyone. IDK about the IndyCar autograph session, but hit it up if you can.
Dave Reynolds son is based
>>152259083>>152260873I'm there.
Trial sounds like it's off to a fun start
>>152267493Next year will be our year, Astonbros. We will get at least one race win.
>>152267590noicebtw everyone played with the homologation road car production numbers. There were a shitload of cars only existing on paper
>>152267493Based. I will always love Cadillac, but a non- hybrid NA V12 is clearly the coolest car we will have during the Hypercar era now that hybrids have been made mandatory.
>>152268814Other highlights were a juror whose hobby is "heavy drinking" and Hamlin crying about his dad during testimony.
>>152266349wasn't there also a video where the camera fell off right after he passed?
6th Annual Race Industry Weekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQvS4z5Vh9oYesterday featured Kyle Larsonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMBhiMhRmVw
Sting Ray Robb still alive.
>>152269273Holy fuck this is the most based machine I've ever seen. V8 Vantage based?
>>152246850>tfw I'll be racing the weekend of IMSA at Road America AGAINThree fuckin years in a row btw, getting real tired of this I'm gonna yell at our schedule maker (not really she's a nice lady and works very hard)
>>152270663Aston Martin RHAM/1 (1979 spec), based on a 1970 Aston Martin DBS V8, styled like the later Vantage. Finished 3rd in class at Le Mans in 1977 (17th overall). Video of it in 1977 spec: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbiyR-c5A04
>>152269949>a juror whose hobby is "heavy drinking" How does this not get you dismissed?
>>152269273>>152270663It is violently '70s.
>>152271140A cursory layman's glance at jury selection rules (NC and fed) tells me that alcoholism does not seem to be a valid reason to dismiss prospective jurors
>>152270415Daly BTFO
>>152267493https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/12/02/its-flat-out-aston-martin-valkyrie-ready-to-deliver-more-in-year-two.htmlhttps://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/12/02/aston-martin-thor-team-announces-2026-imsa-drivers.html
>>152269273Very loud V8 in person
>>152266327we already had it for nearly 20 years up until 2008.Tyre mousse frequently was so good that drivers didnt even noticed they had a punctureNow why it was banned is something not really clear. There is a side who says it was banned to make rallies a bit more entertaining/dramatic/etc, and there is also a side that says it was done as a cost reduction measure ( even though a puncture can make thousand of dollars worth of damage...My theory that simply poorelli wanted to cheapen out on tyres as this was the first year we switched to a single supplier
>>152273011Episode 1245 of Dave Richards having shit takeshttps://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/richards-plays-down-mousse-ban-4404728/4404728/
>>152273083yes, David Richards promoted it along with bringing the WRC to the internet. I think the other hungarian anon explained it last year
>>152266299so some stages look like Jordan? i will watch this rally on the weekend
>>152273532jeah it was a mix of kenya-acropolis-jordan
>>152266349the estonian anon was right it also looks like Mexico
>>152271494Well, addiction can be considered a disability... still, I don't think they have to provide a reason for dismissal.
>>152272282>>152274590Yeah, I'm thinking based.
>>152274780>I don't think they have to provide a reason for dismissalOnly if it's a peremptory dismissal, of which only a limited number is allowed and has a bunch of rules. limitations and foibles of its ownUnitedstatia even has a special rule where if a juror is a minority, a "race-neutral" reason has to be given even if done under the auspices of a peremptory challenge.
>>152267493Astonbros, we'll get there next year. WEC and IMSA will be ours.
1986https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZufTnLUYH3MWhy weren't you there?
>>152275784because I was still -4 years old
>>152275784Well for starters, I wasn't born.
>>152275784Were you there?
>>152275784I was 3
>>152278098Still weird to think this ended his career. I clearly don't have a good concept of what the g-forces he felt must be like, because just to watch it the crash wasn't that violent. Dizzying, sure, but not career-ending.
>Group A cars were faster than group B>Group A cars were more road relevant than group B>Group A cars were cheaper group BBut group b is still more romanticized. maybe people just like watching daredevils
>>152241916>Friday, December 5 (all times ET)9:00 PM: 24H Series, Rd ME3/3, '12H Malaysia', Sepang International Circuit, Sepang, Malaysia (Season Final)>Saturday, December 612:05 PM: Formula E, Rd 1/17, 'São Paulo ePrix', São Paulo Street Circuit, São Paulo, Brazil (Season Start)>Sunday, December 78:00 AM: Formula 1, Rd 24/24, 'Abu Dhabi Grand Prix', Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates (Season Final)>Saturday, December 131:00 AM: Asian LMS, Rd 1/6, '4 Hours of Sepang #1', Sepang International Circuit, Sepang, Malaysia (Season Start)>Sunday, December 1412:00 AM: 'Gulf 12 Hours', Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates1:00 AM: Asian LMS, Rd 2/6, '4 Hours of Sepang #2', Sepang International Circuit, Sepang, Malaysia
>>152278239Group A did circuit racing too, it never took off with Group B
>>152244925Wingless 9x8 my beloved. imagine if this car is actually winning more than the winged ones.
lolhttps://www.caranddriver.com/news/a69611786/gerry-mcgovern-jlr-design-boss-fired/
>>152280129> The class is for non-factory, privateer entries only in a pro-am format with at least one bronze driver mandatedI fear for her safety, she will be involved in a lot of dentist on dentist action
>>152278239> Group A cars were cheaper than Group Bin 1987 maybe. But it was a shoddily written regulation set and when manufacturers actually started to care about it, the development quickly made things worse.The death of Group A was the escalating costsIn a cost cutting response came the World Rally Car which was cheaper in 1997, but already a top level car was 1mill USD in 2000(Privateer cars were of course cheaper but those never had the same level of tech what the factory teams used, like the active suspensions or the cheeky boost tank of the focus03 for example, and usually their engines been rebuilt to a worse performance level to keep it cheaper. )
>>152278239>Group A cars were more road relevant than group BRoad relevancy in rallying died in the middle of the Group A era. From a point no development was something which carried over to road cars>Group A cars were faster than group BTop level reg was faster than the previous. WRC was faster than Group A, and Rally1 Hybrid was faster than WRC Rally2 is faster than Group A, there are some rallies ran both as a regular and a historic rally at the same time and EP was giving Latvala 1s/km This is the older few years old Fabia Rally2 vs the 94 Celica with EP admitting that the Finnish Championship being non as competitive he rarely driven flat out, while Latvala was pushing it to the limit
>>152280610>The death of Group A was the escalating costs >In a cost cutting response came the World Rally Car which was cheaper in 1997Many such cases >LMP1 to Hypercar>GT1 to GTE (GT2) to GT3
>>152278647Plenty of sports car racing, starting literally in the middle of the night, but hey.
>>152244925Hell yeah. They are starting next year, not this weekend, right?
>>152280419Yeah, the Bronze requirement indefinitely a bad idea and almost certainly driven by a need for funding. Even artificially undervalued Bronze driver, Ben Keating says that the Hypercar class is intimidating. https://www.motorsport.com/imsa/news/bronze-rated-keating-not-interested-in-racing-scary-lmdh-cars-again/10627553/
>>152280778yeah it's the next season
TIL my favourite Ford Supervan, the second one, does not exist as the chassis was cannibalized for the Supervan 3:((((My cousin had a diecast of it in my childhood and I always envied him for itAlso, Ford threw together a shoddy, chinesium tier version of it, with sticker air intakes and shit and it doesnt even looks close to the originalOG S2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fhIUhyNdZo
>>152280944Fake Supervan 2 Also being a totally different car they even put a different engine in it, V6 instead of V8
>>152280949Athey even put a different engine in itThat's the original engine ya dingus. It's just a Transit with some stickers
>>152280970The whole thing is insulting
>Nascar vs Hamlin>Stock Car vs Baptista>now ACTC vs Castellanowhat a lovely end of the year we are having
>>152280610wrc cars weren't really cheaper, the cost cutting was mainly down to not having to build 5000 new evos and imprezas every time you wanted to upgrade the rally car, in the mid 90s mitsubishi and subaru homologated new versions every year
>>152281470true
Very interesting who will adapt better/quicker to the slower cars. As far as I know from the old generation (Neuville, Evans, Ogier, Tanak) only Növil is the only one racing in his free time with lower powered cars (like his E30 Group A or 306 Maxi), the other 3 only done his wrc commitments.The young guns all do other rallying. Also what Lappi said (Hyundai thinks it would be stupid to promote a young gun who still needs to learn in rally1 when the regulations will go away in a season anyways) I don't think Sexo will get a full time rally1 seat. Another part time season while he switches to either the Fiesta or Hyundai rally2 from the Fabia
>>152282544>>152282535what are these doing in monaco atm ??
>>152282564oh okay looking at the cars (lc430, late 00s sklasse) it's not a recent photo, I guess this was the launch of the series ?
>>152282579https://gt-world-challenge-europe.com/news/3115/launch of GT3, exactly 2 decades ago
>>152282579ah okay this was the gt3 launch event 20 years agohttps://www.gt-world-challenge-europe.com/news/3115/gt3-at-20-the-first-step-towards-a-sportscar-racing-revolution
>https://rallyjournal.com/is-gregoire-munster-on-his-way-out-of-m-sport-ford-were-looking-at-other-options/serdigod won't continue funding munshit so probably seggs will get his seat can't wait for him to battle rally3s at tarmac rallies kek
>>152283040>Back in Rally2Following Greenshit's path, good.Is Josh still set with M-Sport for 2026?
>>152283164probably, he's bankrolled by the motorsports ireland dude so I'm guessing he gets a second year too
https://racer.com/2025/12/02/power-to-make-rolex-24-at-daytona-debut-with-75-expresshow come Power never did sports car racing on the side when he was at Penske?
>>152281470>manufacturers freed from the requirement to make homologation specials for racing>now all they make is crossover SUV slopreally makes you think
>>152282535>>152282544We gotta go back.
https://sportscar365.com/other-series/n24/falken-owners-weighing-up-dunlop-n24-livery-change/NOOO
>>152279378>Green rimsMeh, I'll pass on that one. Already have the 911 and 911 RSR (and the 9X8), anyway.At least, they have one golden tooth right.Also those number panels...
>>152282564>>152283319Josh is already an upgrade over Munsterthere is no official confirmation yet for him, but Millener talked already about his next year like it is decided, so I guess he will 100% return>>152283424they werent making the impreza, lancer, 206, etc because they wanted to go rallying and needed a homologation model.
can a argie explain to me how this works? Like did mercedes just give an authorization for them to use the brand or are they coming in full?
>>152284525for example in Brazil when Mitsubishi announced they were coming for Stock Car last year they made a lot of deals, the cars were designed to have the same amount of L/D ratio as Chevy and Toyota, all 3 manufacturers had to do a draft to choose their teams, each team and each driver received a new Eclipse Cross or L200 Triton for their chosing, and everytime a mitsubishi driver goes to the podium they receive a 10K BRL. And for what I know about TC2000, the teams decide which manufacturer they want as long as it fits the regulations, they build the cars in house (like pic related of a team building a Nissan Kicks, which they dont have the sponsor from Nissan)
>>152284610it can be the local importer behind it then mercedes does not need to aprove itThere Erebus E class supercar wasnt an official factory program either for example
>>152284687SOVL
>>152284525personally i dont talk about such stuff because its a kike den and its not as professional as you might thinki had to research a little (not that much mind you) to give you a picturehttps://www.solotc.com.ar/mercedes-benz-turismo-carretera-proyecto-tc/https://autotest.com.ar/carreras/todo-lo-que-debes-saber-sobre-la-llegada-de-mercedes-benz-al-turismo-carretera/the tldr of the tc project>some big car dealer(prestige auto) wants to promote shit by bringing a mb badged (((car))) to tc>its literally a torino(which doesnt even exist anymore) with a new skin, with cherokee engine even>measurements? manufacturers? whats that, is it tasty?same thing happened with toyota and the camry, and im 99% sure the bmw project is gonna be the samenot sure if theres a br/us saying close to it but >we call this>para la foto siempre quieren figurar todoswhich would be something like only caring about the image in a hyper superficial way which describes the current state of tcsorry to break the image of the oldest racing series still aliveoutside that, mercedes benz officially exists here as mercedes camiones y buses which is real and serious stuff, anything else is importer/dealer scams
>>152284687kek, these guys have been making some good marketing for their team lately. They better not let down on the big day.
>>152280944
>>152282544
The standout part of the lawsuit for me yesterday was the teams' lawyer saying the CART/IRL split was great for team owners and it's unfair of NASCAR to proactively fight against a repeat of that.Today Bob Jenkins says he has lost $70 million over 11 years to field his teams but someday the charters will turn a profit for him.
>JK, ofc, lol
>>152285096>mercedes benz officially exists here as mercedes camiones y busesso thats what Mega is?
>>152287215also at least you guys have different engines to play with, right?
>>152283425Hey, that's pretty good.
>>152285967coooool>>152285918wow never heard of thishttps://www.topgear.com/car-news/ford-rallying-news-ford-helps-future-rally-stars-2006
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/12/03/dmsb-overhaul-ring-permit-system.html
>>152286107>>152286314>>152286386>>152286446Coool>>152286940They always say the same lol
Hyundai (re)started the development program for the i20 Rally2. Furmo was testing todayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lvREtetMso
>>152287954He was also testing the Rally1 i20https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxox6mp5OIchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r5thYNlIPAThe difference is huge between the 2 cars
>>152287437This article made me remember that Markko Martin had a strong collision with a golf cart (?). I'm not sure if I read it here, somewhere else, listened to it on a podcast or dreamed it
>>152288112the ability to keep calm while the back end slides all over the place amazes me. My butthole puckers if I hit a puddle 5mph too fast
https://x.com/bobpockrass/status/1996343253537579183lol
>>152288247Armin did a pretty good trance remix of that song a few years backhttps://youtu.be/fwela7tv3IA
>>152288280for me it's rennesaince catholic music blended with trancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8vX-I_LzvQ2004-2007 was peak trance tbqh
>>152284610>a team building a Nissan Kicks, which they dont have the sponsor from NissanGiga based.
>>152288608Oh yeah, I remember that one, it's the opening track to one of the ASOT 2007 CDs. I started listening in 2006, but I think my personal favorite era is like... 2009-2012. After that, it started getting too pop. I do like the newer sound since 2020 though.
>>152285096>cherokee engine even This is literally my favorite part of TC. I'm pretty mad I can't usually get the streams to work.
>>152285096>para la foto siempre quieren figurar todos This goes all the way up to the NASCAR Trucks Series. They chassis design is the most open in the series, but that's mostly up to the teams/constructors. All the engins are Ilmore, the "manufacturer" is just what stickers go on the bodywork.
>>152284687Red Bull tongue my anus.
>>152287954>>152288112how does private testing work in rallying? i mean i know for closed course racing they rent a track, in rallying they just ask local authorities to run in some back road?
>>152286090>Today Bob Jenkins says he has lost $70 million over 11 years to field his teams but someday the charters will turn a profit for him.
>>152288247Based. Totally NASCAR death. Long live stock car racing!
>>152286090That statement smacks of the old "losing money on every sale but making it up on volume."
>>152244189I'm waiting for next season with the Hypercars. and hopefully they get more races outside of Arabia.
>>152267590Group B was just Group A for GT cars rather than touring cars. OEMs played it fast and loose for what qualified as a 'GT car', turning small economy cars into exotics. the original intent was for the class to be built around the likes of Porsche and Ferrari.
>>152288235in the first minute of the video I would have already shat my pants in the passanger seat probably. Rally1s are turning unnaturally fast which video rarely gives back.There was that irish tractor youtuber who was the announcer on the rally estonia ceremonial start and other live things, she was given a passenger ride and it's pretty funny that instead of the usual overplayed meme screaming, she was actively shitting herself in silence with sometimes saying "FUCK" :Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQNzK_5-Wn0
>>152280667Group A was explicitly road-based. every single Group A machine had a road homologation special that was mechanically identical. the WRC cars that originated in 1997 were the ones that didn't need true homologation. Corolla, 206, Focus... the Evo 6 was the last Group A car to compete, being retired in 2001. the early WRC machines were pretty much equal to Group A in performance, they didn't go crazy until 2002+.
>>152289122>Group A was basedcorrect
>>152288777There is a set amount of testing days in a season(21) they can distribute among their drivers for pre event testing and I think there is infinite between seasons. And yeah just rent the road from local authorities. I guess they also have to talk with the local ASN as well. They scout for roads which represent or similar to the rally they practice for. Also as all the manufacturers have european bases these pre event tests can only be in europe for cost cutting measures, which of course made it a bit hard to test for rally saudi arabia for example.All the manufacturers can have their own 12km testing stage as well where they can test freely, but that is usually is not really representative of any rally so they only use it to shakedown, media, and early development reasons
Real talk: this comes off like a suicide note
>>152289122of course they had to build the 5000 homologation model but not everything had to be present on the road cars from the rally cars of course. You could not buy a cheater turbo gt four for example in a showroom and that part didnt have the real world advantage anyways. From around the middle of the run of the regulation set, development was turned into "how can we work around the regulations" and those advancements had no benefit for the everyday driver, thus the true road relevancy was nowhere in those, and from that point there was really small developments in technology which eventually trickled down to the road cars
>>152289427the GT4's street turbo did actually have the bypass system, it was just blanked off. regardless, the core mechanicals of it and the racing car were the same, which is far more than can be said for the Corolla which succeeded it which was not available with a turbo and four wheel drive in the street car.
>>152287215this is megaautomotoresmega.com.argaybook.com/automotoresmegaa dealer from entre rios, same place as werner(the driver you just posted)the one i mentioned beforemercedes-benz-trucks.com.ar/mundo-mercedes-benz/mercedes-benz-camiones-y-buses-argentina>>152288687oh yeah the local manpower and straight 6s part are 99% of the reason anyone is still watching tc for sureif i remember right, they ran out of slant sixes and tornado engines (which should be something close to the old amc straight 6 engine) so thats why they started using the so called cherokee engine for the gtx and the torino (now the camry, in the not so distant future mercedes benz and bmw)right now they look like pic related, pushrods are dead since 2015 i believeif you want to know what true racism sounded likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiEGS18xPLAi think that was the first year where they started using 5 shiftershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCRWfCqvN-csame year but with the old 4shifterthat channel has great content if you have some time be sure to check it out>>152288744well yes the more you know about x series the less you want to follow it because >we are not so different after allright now i still love nascar and indy but the more info i became aware it start to lose its charm
>>152289346>as all the manufacturers have european bases these pre event tests can only be in europe for cost cutting measuremakes sense, in motogp honda went to test in malaysia 5 different times this year and the european manufacturers complained they couldn't afford to do that, >which of course made it a bit hard to test for rally saudi arabia for example.so my theory of m-sport having some base data from the dakar raptors and nasser does have some weight>>152289376between losing the championship and now the lawsuit i'd be surprised if he decides to race next year
>>152289376>Some of you guys are alright, don't come to the Daytona 500 next year
found and reuploaded the '07 daytona 500 onboardshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58NxV19O4Dwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMx8EG2R8L4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUjt_0qc0_Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rngWMOFOBI0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJu6UCakQpohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJu6UCakQpo
>top NASCAR teams fuck off and make their own competing seriesand now what? NASCAR directly or indirectly owns almost every single oval over a half mile in length in the country. where are they gonna race? fucking Irwindale? they'd all go bankrupt in a month
>>152289776SMI, being a totally independent entity and under no control from nascar whatsoever, will have to do business with both factions, plus there's indy, pocono, gateway, milwaukee, irp, rockingham
>>152290028they don't "have" to do business with anybody. they can simply say "we do not trust their product to give us a return on our investment, and so we will not host them. it is not in our financial interest" and that's that. as for the others, all NASCAR has to do is threaten to pull support for their series. "if you let them run, we'll stop racing there. good luck making up for that lost revenue"
>>152290082And this is exactly the kind of behavior they're being sued for.
>>152290111and my point was, any victory at the hands of the teams with be purely pyrrhic because all they'll end up with is having screwed themselves out of a comfortable gig. whether you agree with it or not, NASCAR hold all the cards here. NASCAR can survive without JGR or Hendrick. JGR and Hendrick cannot survive without NASCAR.
>>152290155best case scenario, they end up with an F1-type situation where the teams create their own FOCA-style association with which they strongarm NASCAR into making rulesets that benefit them to the detriment of the sport as a whole, just as we saw with Ecclestone turning F1 into a glorified TV commercial for Mercedes and Marlboro and the UAE tourist board for 30 years.
>>152289637the funny thing is, because wrc2 competitors are from everywhere in the world, there is no such restriction for them, so solberg, korhonen, kajto and others were all doing pre event test in saudi, and in paraguay and chile. But they usually do that together so I guess if the cars are there anyways, it's not that much more money per driver
Will WRC be less gay in 2027?
>>152290155I dont believe the nascar is too big to fail theory
>>152290300it's already the least gay motorsport, it's not silverspoon rich kid nepobabies like fag1, penskecar or asscarWRC is not pampering to the lbgtqxyz123 community in the media like the above mentioned onesDEntists are insignificant and don't fuckup the competition like they do constantly in enduranceDropping 2/5 of power and significant aero in 2027 will worsen the spectacle but it will be still glorious and will bring in 3 other manufacturers at minimum at least so comppetition will be tight
>>152290155Eh, it ultimately depends on how the judge rules, and what kinds of remedies he puts in place.>NASCAR can survive without JGR or Hendrick. JGR and Hendrick cannot survive without NASCAR.This is the reason we have antitrust laws in the first place, to prevent a dominant player from using their position to bully everyone else in ways that are detrimental to the market/industry and ultimately the consumers. It's been poorly enforced lately, which is maybe part of the reason our economy seems so fucked up.
>>152290358good thing I did not say that they were.
>>152290430>antitrust on entertainment mediaby that logic we could file antitrust on the NFL and force them to split back into the AFL and NFL. we could file antitrust on bands if they have too many "good" musicians. See how silly that sounds? Antitrust is not a magic wand you can wave to make companies you personally don't like go away, that's banana republic-tier thinking.
>>152289471why tf they have co-drivers???
>>152290462I didn't say it makes companies go away. Break ups are the ultimate remedy, basically the equivalent of the death sentence, but there's lots that can be done below that to limit behaviors. And like I said, it's not a punishment for being successful, it's for using a dominant position in ways that hurts the rest of the market and consumers. There's a difference. It's not even illegal to be a monopoly, but certain ways to reach a monopolistic position are illegal, and certain behaviors to maintain that position are also illegal. Also, most of the major sports leagues have anti-trust exemptions in the law, so theyr'e allowed to do some things companies in other industries can't (I don't think NASCAR has an exemption), up to a limit. Idk what you mean about bands and musicians... I could imagine some things they could do that would be illegal, but I'm not sure what you're thinking.
CHRIS GAY HEART LEFT JGR!REPEAT, HAMILIN'S GAY BF CHIEF WAS FIRED!
>>152290426based, I hope WRC gets a better promoter. I think the current one is pretty bad and RallyTV pricing makes no sense given the quality of their service
>>152290616antitrust exists to prevent companies from withholding or price-gouging basic necessities for life. it does not exist to simply break up any company that gets too big for its britches. Your local power company hiking electricity rates 500% during an especially cold winter would be grounds for antitrust. a racing championship not sharing events with a rival racing championship is not.See what I mean by you approaching the concept as if it's a legal magic wand? You personally don't like NASCAR, so you want the book thrown at them by any means necessary. Be damned the consequences or precedent. This is how third worlders approach Law, and it's why they are constantly bouncing from one strongman dictatorship to the next; the electorate are always trying to weaponise government against one perceived enemy or other, and all it ever does in the end is make their own lives worse and prevent their nation from ever stabilising. And this isn't even getting into the actual history of antitrust and how it's done more harm than good; I'm already giving it a far more charitable interpretation than history has shown that it deserves.
>>152291040>antitrust exists to prevent companies from withholding or price-gouging basic necessities for lifeLolno, where the fuck did you even asspull this from. Antitrust laws have always been about facilitating competition in the marketplace. Killing collusion among firms, nipping monopolies in the bud and limiting methods that dominant firms could employ to force prospective competitors out of the market, with the end goal of allowing entrepreneurs the opportunity to succeed and foment competition hopefully beneficial to the end consumer. It's how the Romans implemented it, it's how the toll booth castles of the HRE and France implemented it, it's how the US Senate implemented it. It's in the name of the fucking laws man. Anti-TRUST laws. COMPETITION laws.The question isn't "is NASCAR price-gouging or withholding basic necessities of life", it's "is NASCAR a monopoly that threatens the competitive process and should it be broken up."You're not gonna get far in convincing me that antitrust law is bad if you don't even know what the purpose of antitrust law is.
>>152291040>antitrust exists to prevent companies from withholding or price-gouging basic necessities for life.That's not correct. A company can engage in anti-competitive behavior even if prices are currently low. Like I said, it's about protecting the health of the market. It's not a magic wand, it's about curbing certain behaviors, which I already explained can basically be summarized as: using a dominant position in a market to bully other participants.>You personally don't like NASCAROther than watching Daytona, I don't pay attention to or care about NASCAR at all.
>>152291311>>152291342they were literally created because rail companies were buying exclusive trackway rights in the western States and then price gouging tickets to the moon. That's exclusively how antitrust was used until the 1930s. I ain't convincing you of shit and never will because you believe antitrust to be an inherent good. I might as well be trying to argue why cannibalism is good. the Progressive Era and its consequences have been a disaster for American society.
>>152291379>you believe antitrust to be an inherent goodI can tell you right now that you know only two things about me: jack and shit. Nothing I said implied I agree or disagree with antitrust laws in principle or execution other than that I had the audacity to call you on your gross misinterpretation of what the purpose of those laws was and is.But who am I kidding, I might as well be trying to argue why cannibalism is good.
>>152289773Nice work, anon.
>>152290616>it's not a punishment for being successful
>>152291379Personally I would argue that the New Deal was the real root of all evil in the US as it stands, but I think you have solid legs to stand on arguing that it started in the Progressive Era.
The root of all evil in the USA is JGR.
>Random Indy 500 replay on FS1>Reminded Palou won cause the two lap cars giving him a draft to keep Erickson and Malukas behind himI wish they could've blue flagged them. I forgot how poor the last 15 laps were after the Palou move cause of it.
Indycar has a sponsor locked in for Phoenix.
https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/how-toyota-is-revamping-its-gr010-le-mans-hypercar-for-wec-2026/10779581/
>>152287954https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/hyundai-upgrading-rally2-car-to-cover-all-bases-as-2027-wrc-decision-looms/10782014/> “I’m not in a position to confirm a new WRC car [for 2027], but the one thing we are doing is we are taking the steps to make the Rally2 car as competitive as possible,” Abiteboul told Autosport> we still have a problem on the powertrain. We still do not have an engine that can qualify with the regulation, as you know it has to be a production-based powertrain - unlike the one used in Rally1. The FIA is aware of that.wait a minute have they stopped producing the engine their rally2 uses? because that must be the same engine
>>152294449>wait a minute have they stopped producing the engine their rally2 uses?the i20n will be completely discontinued by 27 so I'm guessing you can't rehomologate it since it won't be in production
>>152295115Eh I knew they stopped offering it in Europe last year, I hoped this is just some gap year till a next gen or facelift
>>152289773Woah, awesome!
>>152290155>NASCAR hold all the cards hereMany such cases.IDK how we got here, but the idea of antitrust is completely absent not only from the legal system, but from the public consciousness. How we went from breaking up Bell Systems and US vs. Microsoft to>Just start your own series and make a better product, bro.>It's a free market, bro.>So what if we have a monopoly on resources, bro?>My dad owns a dealership, bro.is beyond me.
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/12/04/bbm-sports-bob-berridge-peugeot-hypercars-to-asian-le-mans.htmlVERY interesting article/interview with the BBM boss> “In the WEC a lot of people are involved in keeping these cars just under the permitted kilowatts – that needs to be addressed (for Asian Le Mans) because employing the number of people required to monitor the software to that extent is unaffordable”.
>>152295115>>152295329They can keep running and selling that rallycar for a couple of years after the regular i20 out of production, certainly long enough to get your moeny's worth out of an evo package. The question is if Hyundai sees there is value in running an old car, but it seems like a decent use of resources to me. Keep the current i20 up to date and have an R2 car you can sell to people that don't want Toyotas, see how 2027 shakes out and then either move on to the next gen i20 R2 or a WRC - both will share a lot of components with the i20 evo anyways
>>152296127the problem is that its just not a competitive package and they gave up on making it one like a year ago, the couple guys still running the i20 rally2 get discounted parts and other shit just to keep the car somewhat relevant
>>152296297Yes, hence the upgrade
>>152295115just realized cyrill is full of bullshit(french caught lying, no one saw this coming), because the engine does not need to come from the same car (case in point the fabia and fiesta both are homologated with their 1.0L base model) but from any of the current production cars of the company (the Fabia actually uses a octavia rs engine downsized from its original production 2L capacity to 1.6) And they had a few different 1.6 or bigger engines in production even on very recently released models. So I guess he maybe says again, that they simply don't want to promote their ICE engine tech...>>152296127well the car is homo until 2030, so they can release evo packs ofc, and we have seen such upgrades to turn around 180 the performance of a car
>>152290616But linen go up, anon.
>>152291379>I ain't convincing you of shit and never will because you believe antitrust to be an inherent good.Were you born into a two parent home where at least one was college educated?
>>152293129Yeah, that kind of sucked, but ultimately I think no unlapping and no command blue flags for cars on the lead lap are two things IndyCar does right and are a net positive, even if it did kind of rob us of some kino.
>>152296672I doubt they want to chuck out the i20 engine and make a completely new one as a stopgap until they can build some shitty hybrid>>152296663sure but magic updates don't exist, they are even more behind in rally2 development than rally1
>>152294138That's encouraging. The answer to TWL isn't TLL. I have not particularly love for them, but that was painful to watch.
>>152296980>sure but magic updates don't existquick, go tell Hyundai I guess
>>152297350eagerly waiting for PuWL
>tfw nothing outside fag1 to watch this weekendi hate the late season
Toyota's new car will be revealed TONIGHT at 9pm ET on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/live/vavduEEE85k
>>152298326There is a sand people 24 hour race. I'll probably have that on for most of if.
>>152298538asian lemans or what?
>>152298538>>152298559it's 12 hours, and it's at Sepang>24H Series>doesn't actually do 24 hour races
https://sportscar365.com/sro/igtc/bathurst-12h-on-track-for-largest-entry-since-2020/
>>152298875Don't they do 2x 12 hours?
>>152298875nah bro, they have the dubai 24>>152301290nah bro, the dubai race is full 24h
>>152301447I thought that was in a week
>>152301713nah bro, sepang is this week, look if singabro appears on the broadcast
NASCAR lawsuit>Judge threatening to question witnesses himself to speed up the trial or put lawyers on a clock>NASCAR lost 6 million on Mexico race, 55 million in 3 years of Chicago, 13 million on 2 years at LA Coliseum>only Daytona, Talladega, and Phoenix make money on their own>Roger Penske is not allowed to decide his own testimony schedule and will have to testify only after 23XII and FRM are done with their own witnesses
Here's a short video on the Mechanics gloves (and how they became tacticool). I didn't know the story of their creation and considering this weekends schedule, you have 7 minutes to learn it, too.https://youtu.be/nFYmVf7lQ1U
>>152301968>Roger Penske is not allowed to decide his own testimony schedule and will have to testify only after 23XII and FRM are done with their own witnessesany implications with this? why is it good or bad? im honestly a retardBtw something says to me, rhese hige losses at least partially are creative accounting
>>152302240OOOOORYou can catch up with footage from this year's WRC seasonhttps://www.redbull.com/us-en/videos/fia-world-rally-championship-2025-portugal-highlights
when I thought Im the only racist in my family and spot my cousins' son in an AC Rally fb group
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>>152302483
>>152302483>>152302497very sexoo
>>152302304#1
>>152302266Roger wanted to skip the line and testify Monday since it suited his schedule better, but since he is NASCAR's witness, they have to follow the agreed schedule and he can't speak until after 23XII/FRM's witnesses. It's not really good or bad except that someone told Roger Penske "No"Regarding the money, Steve O'Donnell was saying that most races lose money but it's all recouped by the broadcast contracts and the track variety and certain events increase value to the broadcasters.
cute codrivers is a psyop I really dont have immunity against
>>152302564thx>>152302534really nice
Carlos Sainz, 2004 rally Mexicohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma3StWxwyIA
>>152302284Honestly, winter is my /k/ season. We have a pretty killer film thread going.>>>/k/64588158
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>>152302564Another note;NASCAR actually DID invoke their non-compete clause to stop an SRX race at an unknown SMI track.Until now it wasn't clear if they had actually taken action beyond sending raging over email and text.
>>152302911Totally NASCAR death.
>>152302794niceI would recognize moya's voice from thousands of spanish codrivers>>152302638also cute petite spanish codrivers
BTW there was so much habbening we missed this but a week ago there was also a toyota rally2 test with supposedly some 2026 upgrades on the carhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-wJJYeo_twWith this bare dark gray color it looks fuckin MEAN
>>152303328oh having ewrc plus is fuckin great.According to the plate, this is a development car, and it was only entered as a course car with pajari in 2023 at the end of year rally Dévoluy (what soiberg and 4max contests this weekend)1 whole year before the rally2 debuted in wrc2https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryinfo/85777-rallye-national-hivernal-du-devoluy-2023/3899621/
>>152303166that's Marc, but he's imitating Luis's voice and, of course his notes. He said so in an interview a few years ago
>>152303289incredible
>>152302284Best of WRC action shots 2025 at Dirtshithttps://youtu.be/luBn70tuJXg
>>152298376Toyota's press conference is starting in 20 minuteshttps://www.youtube.com/live/vavduEEE85k
>GR GT>GR GT3How creative
>>152305054ze Germans started these naming conventions
>>1523044164.0L twin turbo V8, 650HP
Toyoda-san
when you open up juutube and the autist IT guy on his very IT themed channel wears an authentic Audi ALMS jacket from the early 00s
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/12/05/toyotas-new-gr-gt3-unveiled.html
>>152305584road car
>>152305720looks very impractical
>>152305720miles better looking than the supra but not an sls amg for sure
>>152305863maybe it's not intended as a workhorse for carpenters or masonsmaybe
>>152305584>>152305720>twin-turbo V8>rear-wheel drive>hood the size of rhode island>reasonable stylingI don't hate it.In fact I quite like it.
>>152305884
obviously they will run it in Super GT GT300, but will there also be a GT500 version?
>>152305720>>152305584Always a fan of more front engine cars out there.
>>152306575but that's a wrong place
>>152305720i still prefer the Lexus LF-R's styling. i wonder if it will also enter production.
>>152307041>battery electric don't care
I imagine that all car racing fans, in addition to watching races and collecting scale models, are also fans of racing video games.I'm really enjoying Indy 500 and Andretti Racing on PS1 and Formula One 2002-2003 on PS2.(I'm for the old school).Which racing video games would you recommend for PS1 and PS2?
>>152308331you mean besides Gran Turismo 1/2/3/4?
>>152308331PS2 era was the peak of arcade racers, NFS leading the pack with Hot Pursuit 2, Underground 1 & 2, and Most Wanted. Burnout 3 Takedown is also 10/10, i've heard good things about Midnight club 3 and Burnout revenge so maybe try them.
>>152308331Auto ModellistaR: Racing Revolution
>>152308440Any racing game. I have Gran Turismo 1 and I like it, but I prefer games that don't require too many modifications to the car to race.>>152308531Yeah,Ps2 is very coolI'll try them, thanks.>>152308707
>>152308748Ridge Racer series
>>152308331Burnout Dominator was the first console game I ever played, fond memories of my dad constantly beating my ass in multiplayer.I remember NASCAR Heat 2002 having impressive vehicle deformation physics. As a stupid kid, I could not comprehend or master the nuances of oval racing, so I turned the game into a demolition derby, that's all I remember of it.
>>152308766This is very nice and easyIt reminds me a lot of the arcades when I was a kid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp1WW6aP5z8
>>152308331Other than already mentioned, I enjoyed the arcade type games like SF Rush and whatever the game was where you launched the car into a group of other cars to blow them up. GT3 is my all time go-too though.
>>152308531My parents didn't own a car so I practiced for my driver's license test using Burnout 3: Takedown.I passed with the minimum score, 85/100.
>>152308331In regards to PS1, I've had loads of fun with Colin McRae Rally 2.0 - it's just a prim and proper fun rallying game. Ridge Racer Type 4 is also a classic if you want something more arcadey.As for PS2, Gran Turismo 3 and 4 are great - personally most fond of 4, having 100%ed it and now close to 100%ing it for a second time, and I've also heard good things about TOCA Race Driver 3, although I don't know how it fares on consoles.The next few I've got are more interesting curiosities than proper recommendations but: I've enjoyed Enthusia Racing for what it is - it has a more simulatorish handling model than Gran Turismo 4 and also includes a few wet tracks you can properly race on unlike GT4's tech demo special event, but it also only has two real race tracks (the remainder being oversaturated with a lot of fictional street circuits) and a rather disappointingly structured main game mode.Auto Modellista is visually stylish and can be very fun but it's also a bizarre case where the newer/international releases have additional content packaged with a (charitably speaking) "different" handling model - use your own judgment on which version you'd prefer.I highly adore Tokyo Xtreme Racer 3 for "muh vibes" but it's also not the most stimulating or driving skill-based racing game: the AI is primitive and keeping up witth upgrades will dictate wins and losses more than anything.
>>152309091Try playing it again, install an emulator and see what effect it has on you, diving into the past is sometimes very pleasant
>>152309160>In regards to PS1, I've had loads of fun with Colin McRae Rally 2.0This was a classic back then, everyone played it, now that you reminded me I'll download it and use it with the emulator, thanks
>>152309160>Tokyo Xtreme Racer 3had fun with that one too, the gaming function it used actually helped me a lot to recognize it and see it in other games.
>>152305584
>>152305584Seems to focus on the GT3 effort above all in his speech. What teams are supporting the NLS effort? https://youtu.be/vavduEEE85k
>>152308331Crash Team Racing > Mario Kart 64
>>152305121>>152305720
>>152308766too bad Namco has no plans of reviving it and i learned there was an RR8 in the works that got canceled.
>>152309258for me, it's the Zent Cerumo and Wedsport Bandoh livery
hyundai decided to go retardagain
I can't wait for the IHRA stock car races.
>>152308331For PS2 you won't really see recommended because it was only available in japanese till last year is Racing Battle C1 Grand Prix.It got a fan translation last year, pretty good gran turismo style game made by GenkiThere are a bunch of rare cars in it, music is good. Handling is.... well... it needs some getting used to. Dustin's video is a great showcasehttps://youtu.be/aEmiLvoAbZE?si=g3ZbRukswYUAnxvp
>>152305720group a anon should be happy homologation specials are coming back everyone else should worry because this is the beginning of the end for gt3
Lotterer, Pipo and Jaubert In the #17Jaminet, Chatin and Juncadella in the #19Nice roster, desu
>>152311369>Sordo>Paddon>LappiEnni in a Rally1!Three drivers in one car is retarded though
>>152311369I know he killed a guy but it's good to see Hayden back in WRC
>>152311767When was the last time a woman co-driver was in a modern rally car, i think loeb's co-driver was in 2022 right?
>>152312117Isabelle Galmiche, the math teacher, yes.
>>152312117>>152312163Last year Enni with Pajari at Rally Finland and Rally Chile bruh
Is wearechecking down for anyone else here? Have they changed domain again? Are there alternatives?
>>152313333its jover, also wasted
>>152313333>>152313375Oh shit, really? It worked for /Fag1/ FP1 this morning
>>152313375>.rip
It was expected, but still hurts...https://www.proton-competition.com/fia-wec-2026-no-porsche-963-entry/
>>152313513glad i saw Le Mans hypercar live before the coming mass pullout.
>>152313333Ora sta funzionando.La Formula E in Brasile è alle 20.30?In Italia la vediamo stanotte per la free practice 1?>>152313375>>152313505Working good now
Why does anyone attend a 24 hour race as a spectator? How would anyone find this entertaining for more than a few hours just watching from the stands (especially since it's not like you see the cars for very long when they do pass by the spectator area).
>>152314320You will never be a racist. There are cars constantly passing you. The spectator area is the whole track.
>>152314320I dont even enjoy watching the the LM24 online anymore, nevermind actually going to one, 24 hour racing is so fucking pozzed now with pc commentators and red flags and BOP.
>>152305584>>152305720That is a lot of bodywork ahead of the front wheels.
>>152307181The GT3 version won't have that.
>>152308331>Which racing video games would you recommend for PS1 and PS2?Formula 1 and Formula 1 97 (Psygnosis) for the PS1, still to this day the only good f1 games ever made.
>>152314767>schizoanon doesn't know about the geoff crammond grand prix gamesmaybe the low iq antisemite theory is real
>>152313513I'll miss this little nigga like you wouldn't believe
>>152308331People keep talking about Burnout but I always thought Flatout was way more fun.
>>152313542>mass pullout.porsche is the only major so far.the lambo program was less serious than the isottaLambo went for the cheap option and even with that only one car (and it was still shit bro)Isotta, Vanwall and the Glick at least had the balls to even as a small manufacturer going for the LMH specWhile there is still 3 incoming programs confirmed, with 2 rumored.Toyota wont pull out, they just updated their shit and they are hell bent on the hydrogen carsAlpine ditto is on the H2 bandwagonStellantis has a reputation problem so even if the Poojoe would pull out, that would mean we get something different stellantis slop (dodge viper lmdh lol) Caddy and BMW delveloping nicelyThere will be mass pullout but that wont be because muh corrupt FIA, but because the next big financial krach when the current bubble bursts
it will be funny is ep and enni starts to squat on pajari next season lol
>>152313739amazon needed the nig demographic?
>>152314962basedBTW i too was only thinking about PS1 and 2 games, but yeah anon asked 'era' so I guess pc is ok as wellBTW Rally Championship 2000 is also a great game, it still has a small but active modding and competitive community and there are a lot of things it did better than its rival the CMR2
>>152311591homologation specials never hurt anybody>beginning of the end for gt3the only thing that will kill GT3 is if th3 government bodies fuck up the BoP process (like is happening in WEC Hypercar) or rich guys suddenly stop wanting to play race driver.
>>152315555>government bodieskek, governing, but close enough auto-correct
>>152314654we're talking about the Lexus version (battery electric slop), not the GR GT3 (based Toyoda-san) or the GR GT (hybrid not battery electric)
>>152313542Porsche is just throwing a hissyfit because they aren't winning (many such cases in the history of sports car racing)
In case anyone had any doubt, Honeycutt is taking over the Tricon 11 truck.
The weather's not looking good for Five Flags today and tomorrow. Looking okay for the Snowball Derby on Sunday though.
>>152315730see:https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/12/05/porsche-in-the-wec-switching-the-narrative.html>Briefing leading into the announcement in early October, and in background conversations since that point, focused on the need to cut budgets in response to challenging commercial realities for the brand globally including significant production staff layoffs, massive reduction in profitability (over 99% down in the first three quarters of 2025) and a potentially difficult time to navigate in the North American marketplace in the wake of tariffs and price guarantees on earlier sales.>However, speeches from the stage at last weekend’s event from both Board member Dr. Michael Steiner and Porsche Motorsport boss Thomas Laudenbach made little or no mention of that, instead directly focusing on ‘sporting’ matters and ‘fairness’. Particular and repeated reference was made to difficulty in accepting that the ‘perfect’ race executed by the #6 Porsche 963 at Le Mans still saw them lose the race by just 14 seconds to the #83 AF Corse Ferrari.tl;dr: they are seething that they aren't winning Le Mans
>>152314637like the snek
>someone was playing the Chicago Bulls intro song as MJ was walking up to the courthouse this morning
>>152316335losing by 14 seconds in 24 hours is nothing if you dont have the imsa style resets
>>152316813Remind me more of the merc GT3, though.
>>152315380>Rally Championship 2000 is also a great gameyeah I know I always had an ass pc growing up so I've played every old racing game under the sun lol, cmr2 is my favourite video game of all time but r2k is based too even today rally games don't have stages that as long as they are in that game
>>152309119>This is very nice and easy >It reminds me a lot of the arcades when I was a kid. Midnight Club is a pretty good arcade style series.
>>152309155Based lunatic driver. I definitely drive like N4S.
>>152311624I just can't care about this brand, even with a lineup like that. At least I can be happy for those guys if they win.
>>152313121Kek, I like how they literally just put the bdge on and change literally nothing else. I still really like this series and I am really excited to have them running a V8 again.
>>152313375>>152313333Who even runs these sites? I'm assuming it's either Russians or Indians. Maybe someone in the Balkins?
>>152308331Big Red RacingCMR 1 and 2R2K (also RAC Rally... every games by Magnetic Fields would do the trick)I've noticed lately that Stunt Car Racer was a Geoff Crammond's game. Boy, do I play that game on Atari ST...
>>152314320>Crowdstrike 24 Hours of Downtime
>>152314320You don't go alone, you go with friends
>Another Formula E delayCloudflare?
>>152314320>>152314632It's totally kino. It's a huge party the entire weekend with lots to see and do, then you get to see race cars vroom for an entire day. The only issue is that the constant noise is pretty exhausting. It can be hard to sleep depending on where you camp and how long you have been there. Also, no matter how much beer you think you will need, double it. It's a great way to make new frens. Oh, that's another thing. You can just walk up to random people and start talking about racing and they will already know what you are talking about. >Man, the Ferrari was pretty quick in practice, I wonder if they will take pole.>Who is qualifying for Mercedes?>Nice, Cadillac shirt, that 1-2 victory at Interlagos was crazy!>Hey, do you want a beer?Bam! Instant friends. I've never been to an F1 race, but of all the races I've been to, endurance fans are by far the most friendly. Going to a bad race is like having bad sex. It's still pretty good.
Gentleman, we are officially College Eggball https://x.com/bigten/status/1996944914840420783
>>152324185Fucking hell.Won't lie, that's pretty cool, though.
>>152319342yeah Rookie Racing (Akio Toyoda's race team) was running the Mercedes-AMG GT3 in Super Taikyu, no doubt to gather data from it for the development of the GR GT3
>>152317674Porsche expected to get the BoP treatment Ferrari are getting but they forgot FIA stands for Ferrari International Assistance
>>152324437normalfags will think that is F1
>>152324500Yep, that's the funniest thing
>>152324175never been to an endurance race but this is basically my experience with IndyCar at Road America. people there are nice and will gladly talk vrooms while waiting for the next cars to go on track.
>>152322692>>152308331I dont see it mentioned, but there is a pretty fun Le Mans 24 hours game also released around 1999-2000 which even lets you do full 24 hours with the ability to save mid race.Also there is sports car gt which can be seen as an RFactor version 0.001, the engine Rfactor uses can trace its roots back to it. Oh and it's the ALMS championship so cars and tracks are pretty great
Oh btw GT2 modding became a huge thing in the last few years and GT4 also getting some pretty nice mods AFAIK
NASCAR lawsuit>Andretti and Honda made inquiries to NASCAR about charters>Jordan wants an agreement like F1 has with their teams and says denying new owners entry increases value for existing franchises>Gibbs doesn't think the new charter agreement is fair or sustainable but would go out of business without it
>>152325257Didn’t F1 shut down Andretti’s attempt at starting a team?
>>152325626until Dan Towriss took over Andretti Global and got rid of Michael Andretti
>>152324918yeah the best ones are Gran Turismo 2 Plushttps://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/mod-gran-turismo-2-plus-bug-fixes-restored-content-and-new-content-beta-7-released.378282/and Gran Turismo 4 Spec IIhttps://www.theadmiester.co.uk/specii/
>>152325660I only finished the domestic licenses and a couple of one make races on my GT4 playthrough. Should I switch to Spec-II?
>>152324918Wait. There's mods for GT2 and GT4?
Also btw there is Sega GT for the dreamcast which has some very great music but very hard gameplay. I honestly like it tho, apart from the shitty city tracks which I hate from the depest caverns of my heart. I had to abuse savee states for some races. Also maybe the only game to have DELIBERATELY very shit setups on the cars to force you learn to set them upSega GT 2002 for the xbox pretty much fixes every issue with it and its an honestly great game>>152325660NGL I really want to try out the Beige Edition mod :D
>>152326018https://youtu.be/IzPunGJay8g?si=2IMl0WbPX6kZQ3OcYESThere are mods for Gt2 like aspec or spec II which add hundreds of new cars and shit
>>152326096I'm more into GTR2 those days with the Crew Chief GTR2 Enhancements Project, but I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks.
>>152325850yes, Spec II is way better and the saves are not compatible with vanilla GT4. the ability on Spec II to change a used car's color and reset the mileage (which causes permanent engine damage and loss of horsepower) makes the game 1000% better.
>>152315878What is Butterbenis doing in 2026?
>>152326018hell yeah
>>152326146He's driving one of the Kaulig trucks
>>152317083Based.Do you think NASCAR top management know they are the bad guys and they just don't care or don't hey honestly believe they are doing what is best for stock car racing, it's teams and fans?
>>152326129what are the go-to places for gtr2 mods? I guess its all on discord apart from racedepartment?[pouring one out for nogripracing and all the lost nfs shift mods and a happy fucking sleepless nights to the owner who just pulled the plug back then]
>>152326096GT2 Plus and GT4 Spec II don't add cars other than content cut by the devs or changed by localization. most of the changes are quality of life stuff
>>152324561Yeah, Road America people definitely get it. The IndyCar crowd is also pretty based and have a good general motorsports knowledge, too. The NASCAR folks are great, but they mostly just know NASCAR. That being said, they are definitely the most rowdy, hard partying bunch of folks in racing. Well, maybe outside of Sebring. I've never been to that one.
btw martin wydeagheadgehaye will enter his first rally as a driver
since we talking motor/sp/ort videya, when are we gonna see a trailer or some updates about the iRacing IndyCar game?
>>152324185
>>152324484They just lost the bidding war and now they can't even afford to try. I honestly believe the FIA operates like a national government.
>>152326210>nogrip ...fuckin'hell, it was in 2011 when it died.Must say, I just keep my folder for myself.Still got an account on EEC forum (somehow).Also, still following what FRM will do with their BTCC 2000+ on Discord
>>152325641>got rid of Michael AndrettiIn political parlance he is >persona non grata>/nŏn grä′tə, grăt′ə/>noun>a diplomat who is unacceptable to the government to which he is sent
Sports car racing
>>152326471they expect pic related and they didn't get it and now they are pouting
>>152326286who's martin wydeagheadgedeagheadgedeagheadgedeagheadgedeagheadgehaye?
>>152326556You gotta pay to play, nigga. Toyota just learned that lesson.
>>152325257More>Steve O'Donnell and Bob Pockrass both separately mentioned the Pikes Peak oval is close to race ready>Amazon broadcast contract requires a yearly street race>JGR is opposed to a cost cap and will spend "whatever it takes to be the best"
>>152326783Why does Amazon care about street races? Was there an Amazon Van exhibition race I missed out on?
>>152326783oh you mean the oval asscar bought specifically to deny an IndyCar race from being held there? that one?
>>152326812They are extremely concerned with the """urban""" market and for some reason they think that hosting races is high crime areas will help with that.The fact of the matter is motor racing is a white man's sport and nothing is ever going to change that. The problem is that they are actively trying to eradicate white people because they get in the way of short term >line goes up.
oh shit he deadhttps://x.com/Motorsport/status/1997101372982849653
whats the point of having 5 different manufacturers (soon to be 7) when in the last race the top 13 were all from chevy and ford
>>152326956What was he going to say in his testimony?
>>152326956That faggot never went to Applebee's
>>152326956RIP.
>>152327052I am personally thankful to any manufacturers who are willing to fund race teams at any level. I mean, I love the shit out of American manufacturers in public, but I fucking hate them for how they are installing spyware and otherwise ruining American cars. What was I saying? Oh yeah, thanks to everyone who sponsors racing, especially the back markers.
>>152327091>What was he going to say in his testimony?Hopefully the hard R multiple times.
the McLaren Indy car that Pato O'Ward hasn't even driven yet just sold for $848,750 USD at auctionhttps://rmsothebys.com/auctions/ad25/lots/r0007-2026-arrow-mclaren-indycar-team-dallarachevrolet-dw12/
>>152326868yes, that one, and that one renders lawsuit too because there are proofs of what they did
>>152328230death to asscarfree IMSA from asscar ownership
>>152326778Proton going makes me so fucking sad man.
>>152328474now is Honda's chance to take Porsche's spot, and equip Proton>but they won't because they are indecisive bitches
>>152313739>>152315261I am also puzzled by this. Pockrass is only giving us the highlights, so I can't say for sure, but if I were the judge in this case (this is a bench trial, right?) that'd call his testimony into question.
>>152324185I expected this to be NASCAR at first, and was about to be extremely confused about why the Big Ten chose this as their advertising tool.
>>152329250This is a jury trial.
>>152326185Very, very few people in history thought of themselves as the bad guys. That shit is saved for movies and edgy school shooters. Everyone else thinks he's justified for what he did, and expects history to vindicate him if he loses.
>>152327092Harmonator gets the final laugh.
>>152329301Woah. I don't know enough about antitrust to say whether that's unusual or not, but it sure strikes me as strange.
>>152329355The way I see it, the teams' lawyer Kessler asked for more information about Chicago losing money and that's when O'Donnell said that a street race was a requirement that Amazon put in their contract so if the Chicago race was a factor in Amazon ultimately paying for their broadcast rights, then it was money well spent if technically a loss.There's no evidence in the record to pry into O'Donnell lying about that and the judge has already told both sides to stay on the core topic of anti-competitive behavior, so there's not much reason for them get into the deeper reasoning of WHY Amazon put that requirement in or demand to see documents related to those specific negotiations.
>>152326956i didn't know he was sick
Bros...
>>152326232wish I could share beers in turn 5 at Road America with the motor/sp/ortsmen on here that appreciate IndyCar and sports car racing.
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/12/05/ferrari-af-corse-announces-2026-wec-hypercar-drivers.htmlI wish they would drop the pretense that Ferrari As Fuck Corse is a privateer team and the third car is "not a factory car"
>>152326650a twink world champion
>>152328732>>152328474They will definitely lose the F.A.T. branding as its a ferdi porsche thing but wouldnt be a natural extension for proton to run the Ford lmdh in wec after they already fielding the stangs?
>>152329304this>>152326185I have a feeling they are more concerned about what is good for their bank account and not the sport itself
Michael Annett and an ARCA team owner in the same day.https://x.com/StartAndParkCar/status/1997173579499086205
>>152332863there are no Japanese manufacturers that can touch Toyota now. all Honda can do is pretend like they are thinking about doing something to beat Toyota, but it's all Japanese business culture, honor, face, and shit. lies. they got nothing. and Nissan for sure has nothing, they are so poor they cancelled the NISMO Festival.
>>152334254meant to reply to >>152332844>but it's all Hungarian posts anyway
Roger Penske needed to get Toyota back into IndyCar. it's probably too late now.
"Andretti" (Dan Towriss/Mark Walter) will switch to "Chevrolet" (Ilmor/Roger Penske) soon. screencap this.
>>152329275if it is to schizo theory this, they know that nascar will be fucked, and they went to indycar to promote.>>152334477dont you think they are in talks?, the problem as always is still the bad blood caused by the engineer leaking data from the early 2000's
>>152335658Lucas Oil Stadium is in Indianapolis, so they did an ad with Indycars in it. It's as simple as that.
>>152335658Akio "Morizo" Toyoda wants Toyota to race everywhere, all the time, in every race series. Supra in Australian Supercars next year. new GT3 car revealed. but IndyCar still can't get Toyota back. why?
>>152329562>>152329582Vax status?
>>152329304>Very, very few people in history thought of themselves as the bad guys.Yeah, but we have all been in those situations where you KNOW what you are doing is wrong, but you do it anyway and rationalize it later. I scincerly get the feeling that the sociopathic nepo babies that run NASCAR never even had a tinge of guilt, let alone remorse. Furthermore, I think they look at NASCAR like a paperclip factory or a car wash.Basically:>>152332863It makes me so fucking mad to see yet another thing ruined by line go up faggots. Especially when the fucking line has been going down for over 20 years.
>>152330617I'll make it up there soon, now that it's a 6 hour. I gotta do Daytona and Sebring, first thought.
