Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to first-decade, Gygaxian D&D, its faithful modern clones, and content created for use with them. Later editions (2e and newer) should be discussed elsewhere.Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to Dungeons & Dragons played as intended by its creators from 1974 to 1983 — less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching metaplots and a greater emphasis on player agency.If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about: we'll be happy to help you get started. We also have two excellent beginner guides created by Anons with feedback from the thread that you can check for help:>n00b DM's Guidehttps://pastebin.com/EVvt6P0B>n00b Player's Handbookhttps://pastebin.com/XALkXkV0>Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97710434>actively try to kill your playersEvery 5e game where I've seen DMs say they're gonna do this, it ends up being a comedy where the players curbstomp the big bad. 5e is a terrible system for anything but its intended purpose, and I wish more people would just fucking admit it.
>>97710434>Otherwise, actively try to kill your playersThat's plebbit-tier levels of retardation, showing that you don't understand anything about the OSR nor about DMing.I won't explain the OSR part because you're clearly too retarded and should just fuck off back to wherever you came from, you have nothing to contribute here except to make this place more stupid.About killing the PCs, to do that the DM need only say>a meteor strikes you, you're all dead, or if you want extra steps>you meet a hundred flying Tarrasques surrounded by an anti-magic field that negates all spells and magic items, roll initiative.It's not hard to do, and it has nothing to do with the OSR.Off you fuck.
>>97710430I have a metricised retroclone (or so) of Chainmail called "Scalemail" that I posted here a couple years back --which evolved eventually into the thing called Battle aXe. (another wargame for B/X) But I didnt know any other clones, otherwise I would have chosen another name.It's bound to be broken at some places as the scope is much larger compared to Battle aXe, anon. I released it after realising that I wont be single-handedly able to playtest all probabilities. But it should be okay, in general. I hope it will be of use to someone someway.
>>97710264>>97710430>>97710490In case anybody is interested, I've uploaded the afore-mentioned "metricised clone of Chainmail" called Scalemail from 2015ish here:https://www.sendspace.com/file/oe8in1This one is really faithful to the base/mass combat rules of Chainmail, but it doesn't have the man-to-man, fantasy combat rules, or fantasy units. Since those didn't need to be metricised, I guess the guy who did this didn't feel it was necessary to include them.Not sure who the author is, or where I got it from originally.
>>97710522That's the thing I made, anon. I'm the same guy It eventually evolved into this:https://hexhunt.itch.io/battleaxeIt was my initial attempt to extract the "essence" out of Chainmail to make it more beginner friendly, an an effort to understand the system better.
So basically I want to start running different kinds of settings/scenarios with friends.None of us have ever been too into board games, it is primarily me that kind of brings them up and has the most experience but still nothing substantial.Now the thing is, I want us to start running some more specific settings for example stuff like The Dark Tower books by Stephen King as a setting and the likes.My question is, because D&D requires a lot of homebrewing, is something like GURPS the best more universal ruleset for wanting to try out a lot of differently themed campaign settings or is there something better than GURPS? And if so what edition?
Maid RPG.
>>97699417That and FATAL are good universal systems for the whole family.
>>97682754GURPS is good. I think their combat is overly granular, admittedly. But unless you're buying a "Powered by GURPS" game, it's more of an "RPG Building Kit" than a prebuilt RPG.
>>97707942>it's more of an "RPG Building Kit"I see this leveled at GURPS a lot but I still don't think it's true, it works on certain assumptions and definitely has its own flair. Just because it doesn't have much of a bestiary (unless you count the umpteen splatbooks) doesn't make it not an RPG
>>97710532The best way I can describe GURPS for tourists is GURPS is the "UNREAL engine." The system has add-ons for different systems and styles of play. However the engine is the same.
Exodus from the GWSG thread editionRepository:https:// mega .nz / folder/0a10kTyb#Kro6lhFGnt9hmfuJCT3BKQThe legal rules:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/kill-team/Previous Thread:It's gone. It burned down and everybody died. >TQ:What's your favorite horde team and why is it Aquilons?
What board size is kill team played on?
>>97708950Officially "Unless otherwise specified, a killzone game board is 30" x 22"
>>97706554KT18 was great, much better than what followed. Unfortunately I have no one to play it with. My local GW scene is addicted to consuming only the latest product (I refuse to call it "playing a game") and my /awg/ friends won't touch anything GW-related - Broheim and CRP BloodBowl being the only GW games that are getting a pass.The transition from KT18 to KT21 was awful, simply terrible on every level. The compendium scam, removal of list-building, FOMO-driven business model, fucking shapes, ridiculously stupid and convoluted LoS-related rules - it was so bad it sill poisons the current edition in its core. I still play KT basically to stay in touch with the local Warhams players but for game to be enjoyable it has to be scrapped altogether and rebuild from scratch. >Inb4 m-muh plasma spam in KT18Yeah people were using broken shit in hyper-competitive games - nothing to be surprised with. At least there was a possibility to play the game on casual level and go crazy with listbuilding and have fun with whacky and thematic lists. Now every team is being played in the same way whenever you play against them. It's so fucking boring and tiresome.
ded game
>>97704769Cool table
Pic unrelated editionPrevious Heresy:>>97696925>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97710502I didn't notice the one on the hip. How do you excuse the knees? It looks much worse on plastic nu-mkII
>still arguing about power armour>since yesterday I'm out, see you fuckers in the evening.
>>97710506Not on the knees tho and yes much smaller.
>>97710516it's a plate of armour explicitly protecting a critical point of articulation between two larger segments that the adjoining bits themselves aren't adequately coveringpretty damn one off artificer suit besides in this instance but even on the new plastic ones it doesn't rub me all that wrong>>97710517picrel, god forbid anyone possesses fixation on one of the centralmost points of the science fiction of the settinghop on board man any time you like
>>97710535Fair enough, my autism is too strong the knees ruin it for me. >>97710517We must have standards or else we get Simon levels of primaris and heresy bastardization. I might be too autistic about it but it is what it is.
It's Da PDF Share Thread!STEP 0:<----- That image is not a PDF, it's an image, at least for now. Check the 4plebs link below to find the PDF.PLEASE READ DA FAQ BEFORE REQUESTING OR SHARING.It will answer 99% of your questions about this thread. If you haven't read it, we will know.STEP 1:Please exhibit good manners. Threads start sliding off the board after a certain number of posts. More posts wasted on being rude means fewer posts available for sharing.STEP 2:Request, share, stay awesome!Previous thread:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97710013g0f1le /d/QLw6MV
>>97710046You are a gentleman and a scholar
>>97708718>ElectrumSent to NV.
>>97709626>/d/WHXxY8Thank you!
For someone WHOs Bee out of the loop a while, can someone give a hint to GF
>Brutus' Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDYVVpbllIREdOczg?resourcekey=0-m3LU1xaC5-PnnA0VLRfK9g>DriveAnon's Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Cx7KoDkQa9qmDfJN9_CehZ0fxXEweKOu?usp=sharing>Jumpchain IRC Chathttp://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA>Ruleshttp://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn >How to Jumpchainhttp://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDVDFBR2NpdG03S0U/viewComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97710333It's hilarious that you say this when like half of the videos put out by this administration include some form of anime.
>>97710345The current administration's reputation is FRAGILE enough that they CANNOT afford to be a pro-Gohan party at this point.I'll make sure.
>>97710345I did say specifically his anime as in whatever his headcanon of dragon ball is. Pretty sure the administration isn't taking part in a psyop to boost his Dragon Ball Z character because they want young kids to aspire to be some Japanese guy. Administration is going to use any tool they can to get at the population and anime is no different, but this is an ultra specific case. End of the day I'm just pointing out to him that he has made this the Gohan general of /tg/, and it's probably not even about Jumpchain at this point since he is doing this to try and make some sort of change happen irl. Could be a character bit he is committed to, but I'm going to call a spade a spade when I see it.
>>97706037To get off the Jobhan topic.What are you guys favorite perks to create magical/spiritual environments and resources (preferably passivly)? I want to be able to cultivate and make mystical exliars, in settings without mystical resources.But I don't want to manually lug around territory, mines, farms and zoo's.So far the only perk I know of that helps in this regard are.Magical/Divine/Fae/Infernal Boon (600 CP) from arsmagica:You naturally spread your realm’s aura in any territory you control. If you are a magicalcreature, you spread a magical aura; a divine creature spreads a divine aura, etc. The aura’s strength increases slowly with time, though you may halt its growth or decreaseits strength if you wish.In addition, you gain a boon dependent upon your realm affiliation:As a magical creature, you create sources of vis wherever you spread your magical aura.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97707955>Well this came out longer then I was planning. But here you go.Neat. Sorry to be late, there was a storm in my area and the internet went down.>The temporary workshop was surprisingly professional looking compared to what he normally expected from the bard. The side room rented out was spacious.You should get your own setup, I’m sure you’ll have uses for it.>"Alchemists are often cultivators but not universally. I'm not going to get in trouble for teaching you."One idea I’ve had is alchemy, enchanting, and arrays are together known as the mortal magics, because mortals can use them, they take less time to learn, and with enough skill can reach the level of the second stage of cultivation.>>97707988>But if I was a betting elf.Hey, I’m the elf (or at least one of my preferred jumpers is), you’re a Hylian.>>97708012Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Legitimate question: Do the few male Howling Banshees there are get a flat chest armour plate or do they just get the standard breasted plate and wear it though it's hollow? I think the latter would be cool to keep the outward image of a bunch of vicious female super soldiers killing people. Because if a dude joins them to begin with it's because he exhibits the finesse and precision they want, so the guy would already be acting kinda feminine, no?I don't know where I could look into to get an official answer to this inquiry
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>>97687336He's cute, who's he? Does he have an OnlyFans? Does he show feet?
>>97710399>>97710412https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xozt1nARUc8
Wanted to get a thread going about calendar megadungeons. Some blogger made a thing about it a couple years ago but it's existed for much longer. The premise is simple: You write a dungeon room every day. Each month of rooms make up a floor of your dungeon. Never skip a day, but you can go back and edit as much as you want. Why? Writing everyday is good for you. Helps you stay creative and exercise your brain. Also, this is deceptively challenging. If you've written a lot of dungeons or mega-dungeons before, you may find that this forces you to stretch some creative muscles you'd forgotten about.If you've never written a mega-dungeon before because you found it too daunting, this breaks it up into little bite sized chunks.Some variations that people seem to like:Each week's rooms are a cluster and directly tie into each other. Layout can be whatever you want.Draw your rooms directly on a calendar so that the rooms vaguely fill the space (see pic). Write a room 6 days a week and then use the 7th to design a unique monster, faction, or artifact that ties into the cluster or one of the rooms you wrote that week.
Had a couple people ask me what the "themes" of my dungeon are and I'm not sure what they want to hear. Is it like an English lit question? Themes like the cycle of hubris, regret, and self-deception or the folly of pride? Or do they want to hear about the ice labyrinth?
>>97707347Not entirely sure but probably both the concepts as story elements or compelling background and physical characteristic. >Ice labyrinth themes>isolation, puzzles, stasis, thaw>opaque walls, stalactites and stalagmites with frozen captives in them, ice flow river I tend to use it as a cluster of ideas to keep in mind when brainstorming or keying rooms. Doesn't have to be complex or high concept, last one I had was >ziggurats, swamp decay, raid >underwater caverns, surface temples, cult wars
>>97660336>>97660364>>97677870A skyscraper megadungeon can work, especially if you take into account that multiple different firms utilize different floors and parts of floors, and the scumminess of a cyberpunk world can mean that stairwells and elevators are limited in where they go, noise isolation between floors (to prevent bugging and corporate espionage) keeps fighting noise from being noticed, and security services are per-firm, contracted with very limited scopes. There's all your contrivances for why some dickheads shooting up floor 3 doesn't put the whole building on lockdown - the building is more of a necessary evil of space savings with different "commerce tribes" using it for their operations, not some kind of unified hive.Or you could do things like having giant, mostly-horizontal (+/- 5 floors up and down from ground at most) sprawling "abandoned" complex that was originally some sort of megamall or manufactory and has been repurposed by different gangs, squatters, hermits, and other social misfits. Think like, urbex youtube channels in derelict high tech buildings but "shored up" instead of being full of black mold. There's a little more room for parlay in that sort of thing too since not everyone will be necessarily hostile, or hates their neighbors more than outsiders.
>>97707347>what are themesfucking retardsAre you too stupid to understand basic analysis or did you write a brain dead series of rooms?>Is "Ice Labyrinth" a theme?jesus christ
>>97709385I don't know man, if I asked somebody to tell me about their mega dungeon, I think "one level is an ice labyrinth" is more useful/descriptive than "it's about the cycle of hubris, regret, and self-deception". But this hobby has a fucking mountain of fart-huggers so who knows
ballin edition▶What is Kingdom Death?Kingdom Death is a tabletop miniature brand stared by Adam Poots and operated by himself and his Team that later spun off into a miniature based bored game funded by two very successful Kickstarter campaigns.▶What is Kingdom Death: Monster?Monster is a Nightmare Horror cooperative boss battler/miniature hobby game for 1-4 players about hope in a strange world of bizarre monstrosities and perpetually darkness. Players take on the role of survivors that band together to form a settlement, fighting monsters, crafting weapons and gear, and developing their civilization to ensure survival from generation to generation.Prologue Narration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLc8dHv0AcThe Game is broken up into 3 phases:1. During your Hunt Phase your band of survivors traverse the world of KD in pursuit of their quarry.2. After successfully tracking your quarry you will begin the Showdown Phase, where you must fell these horrific creatures in order to acquire precious resources.3. After the battle, your survivors wander home with loot in hand to begin the Settlement Phase. Arm yourself by developing new weapons and bizarre structures to prepare for next year's hunt.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97709396Flower knight's getting a combo armor set with slenderman that's apparently cursed in COD. I'm on my first campaign with flower knight and I also wish it had armor, it's thrown in a weird gap for me where I like to have different armor on every survivor but in this campaign I only have gorment, Rawhide, and leather available early so I'm gonna have to double leather so I can farm Phoenix and DBK safely
>>97709409>>97709468Guess im going to have to find slenderman somewhere. Still missing slender, gorm, and man hunter.
>>97709683Yeah those are the most desired and most out of stock, over the new stuff even. Butcher is fine but gets a little dragged out and his level 3 is annoying, nobody likes king's man and slendermsn is the best replacement, and gorm is just a good fun quarry with unique armor and crafting mechanics and only a little bit of bullshit
any good scans of the rulebook?
>>97700936Yeah the art and design is great but her ass is just floating above the horse
If a wizard turned your six inch penis into a one inch penis the leftover mass to energy would be more devastating than the Hiroshima bomb
Wizards are retarded
Praying Edition>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What Trench Crusade is notTC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online:https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97706503New Antioch is all about working together but then this happens to you >>97705417
>>97706178Download some Osprey on WW1/early WW2 and paint a color scheme of uniforms and camos that you like.
>>97696451Naw, this is faggot shit. The Christians, Muslims, and maybe Jews of Trench Crusade are good guys, sometimes extremely desperate good guys, fighting for creation to not further unravel and a right to exist in it.Hell is fucking trying to impregnate people with fly aids babies and doing what Jews wish they could do with loans. On top of sending people burnt to a fucking crisp like an army of Major Toms after a botched re-entry.
>>97709257> The Christians, Muslims, and maybe Jews of Trench Crusade are good guysThey arebut the Hell folk have reasons as to why they do what they do as well. Not good reasons, but justifiable in their minds.
>>97709395Yeah I'm sure they do, just dude who thinks it's ok to rape women because they deserve it for being immoral (dressing in a skirt and tank top). They are objectively bad, though they may rationalize it in their head as them being "good". The thing is with TC and even ITT people argue that the conflict is nuanced and complex when it isn't at all. Hell is evil and heaven is good. Yes I'm sure sometimes a heretic does something actually good and a faithful person does something bad (though we have no lore on a heretic doing a good thing) the exception proves the rule. As I saw someone say a while a go: "Some of the faithful do bad stuff and it's usually out of desperation. The faithless/fallen all do bad stuff and they're the belligerents"
Various AD&D/OSR threads are full on cancer with autism shitfights and gay nonsense.I am looking to run a megadungeon game for some people who never played anything older than 3.5. I've played some of them but it was a while back myself, and I've been mostly doing retroclones for the last little while. So what I'm asking is to get some takes on AD&D, B/X, AD&D 2e, and BECMI. Names: Rule Complication vs usefulness, ease of learning, strengths/weaknesses, and ease of acquiring physical copies of the book(s). I don't need any modules and minimizing splats is ideal, so if you feel like any of these "cannot be enjoyed" without X extra book(s) please include that information as well.
>>97710422these grogs ultimately don't like D&D, they want to autistically consume it to satisfy their hyperfixations and need for structure, and get furious when they see that as under attack.Any reasonable person (or even autistic people that don't have that form of it) can look at D&D and realize there's no true "right" way to play, only wrong ways for particular tables. Trying to force your vision upon a game as open and fluid as D&D will always fail because you have utterly 0 influence over someone elses table. You cannot compell them to run the game a certain way, and neither can they do so to you.So this drama is ultimately a utter shame.
>>97710336If the system isn't the primary focus, why did you pick these 4 to choose from? The OP mentions retroclones, are you looking to improve some section of your experience or gain cred by running "cooler" old systems?
>>97710186I enjoyed BECMI enormously over the years (Played sicne 1982). Comparatively few options when played "as is". Race-as-class simplified a lot, although it did make halflings (sort of like a Thief but max level 8 without much compensation) and dwarves (Fighter maxing out at Lvl 12 instead of 36. Make what you will of that) ruleswise superflous. AD&D suffered badly from poor structure of the books, but was, mainly and mostly, similar to BECMi but with lots more spells. A proper editor instead of booze and cocaine would have saved Gygax a lot of trouble.AD&D2e was a nicely cleaned up version of AD&D with far more options, and even more spells.Not bad at all if you want something with wider range in terms of classes and races and on-weapon proficiencies. That being said, I have had fun anyway, with all of the above.
>>97710509I like race-as-class because I find races as stat boosts to really annoy me. I am a little displeased to hear BECMI makes dwarves and halflings feel less useful/relevant.Would you say the addition of more spells make AD&D deeper or more interesting, or does it just increase Magic User/Cleric paperwork?
>>97710524I lean heavily towards making it more paperwork-heavy.A lot of the spells did more-or-less the same things but with different names. Damage, mobilty enhancing/impeding, healing, scrying and so on.Sure, types of damage (cold, fire et.c.) did play some role but neither me nor my players actually really found it made much difference. Why was Ice Storm a lvl 4 spell but Fireball Lvl 3 despite doing, essentially the same thing, that is to say cause damage over an area?
Norwegian Civil War Era EditionPrevious thread:>>97451138>Thread Question: Which unit would you collect purely for the uniforms?>Community Summary of Wargames: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11JoUpGIRDp5DZdgJ24rijKHgyY-qvvR5QnVtHIp57Tw/edit?usp=sharing>List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises: http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R>ZunTsu Gameboxes: Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97706130hmm, that makes me think, maybe I will just use the library 3d printer instead? It is one of those ones that is ass for models since everything not at right angels is made up of jaggedy lines, but that doesn't seem like as much of a problem for larger terrain pieces.
>>97576097What is a good system for platoon level ancients/medieval?Like around 30 models per side, larger than squad actions of like 5-15, but smaller than army actions of like 50+? Basically the largest amount of men a single officer could command in detail. The smallest scale where you command groups of models instead of single models.
>>97705882thanks for bringing this to my attention. How do I add one of his games to the mega?
>>97702725I played a little. But I am autistic and only really get into a game when it really strikes me. The circle game that simulates ww1/2 grand strategy also looks interesting. where a big piece in encircling.
>>97645404The Germans fought against the poles here in September 1939 and against the Soviets in January 1945. Very likely Prussians and Austrians fought around here in the 1700s. Maybe mongols even passed through on their way to Legnica?
I’ve heard someone describing the setting of Rifts as being based on “putting together everything that would’ve sounded cool to a kid growing up in 1985.” It makes me wonder: what would a setting look like if it was created by throwing together everything that was cool to you as a kid?
>>97693228Copyright infringement
>>97707896If you can’t even get one person to write the idea in the first place down, then it wasn’t worth writing to begin with
>>97708951you absolute fucking moron"one guy with an idea can use AI to produce media that would take 100 people to make" has absolutely nothing to do with what you wrote you imbecileyou open grave
>>97708966I’m saying an idea regurgitated by algorithm was pointless to make to begin with, regardless of number of personnel.
>>97709035lol idiot
What's the verdict? Is it a cool alternative to dnd?
An important question to ask when determining if DLE games are for you is'Do you enjoy campaigns that won't finish before you retire, and combats that run over several sessions (while your character is unconscious)?'If so, stick with PF/DnD.Otoh, if you like fast, dirty, deadly fights and campaigns that will be done by summer, then Demon Lord might work for you.A campaign runs from level 0 to level 10.There is no XP to track - the campaign structure is designed so that PCs level up after each adventure.If you want to stretch it out you could vary this at your table, do two adventures per level, etc.But I don't know why you would want to do that, there are so many character options, just do a new campaign with new PCs (or play something else).Most of the modules are standalone, but there are some published campaign frames.Of note, there is a official Freeport campaign, so if you have played Freeport before, you could play it again to get a before/after feel for how the Demon Lord engine affects play.
>>97706154When people say shit like this I genuinely can't tell if they like the game or not.
>>97706154>An important question to ask when determining if DLE games are for you is>'Do you enjoy hyperbolic strawman statements that may or may not loosely apply to the worlds roleplaying game?'if so, stick with PF/DnD.>Otoh, if you like buzzwords, then Demon Lord might work for you.When you catch yourself thinking and writing like a marketing bot you should really start considering suicide. It's the only moral thing left to do.
>>97705865>>Dark Deeds in Last Hope > The Knife in Your HandDid exactly this, worked great.>The Man Who Fell to UrthGiven one of the more likely endings for this is a TPK or being stuck in the Void, I used this as the finale. It also meant I could use the Looming Star as Shadow to foreshadow the whole thing
>>97681857easily better than 5e by the simple facts of how "classes" are working and everyone having access to different attack options by defaultalso want to emphasize how much I like the Path system and the Paths, shit like Doomseeker or Mastermind are so cool
