Stories, art, don’t care. Post it or don’tWhite human male and orc female pairings are the key to fixing the realm
>>97196776>Women>Ever closing their mouthsKek
>>97194172Orcs and elves can't have kids with each otherTheir gods made sure of that
So glad the abominable intellect can make orcs
>>97190058I like thick matronly women, thin waifish women and brick shithouse Amazonians. Variety is the spice of life and liking buff chicks doesn't mean that's all you are into, besides that your brain is absolutely rotted if you are so insecure about your masculinity/sexuality that you are trying to convince other internet dorks that they are gay for liking hot women
>>97190058>only a monster on the outside
>The Honest Wargamer>actually a wanker (obviously), a serial bully, and a landlordI think it's because most wargamers are quite soft and odd that when you get these kinds of "extroverted" podcast types they really run riot. What a cunt.Is this a problem in your local scene?
>>97201788The difference is his reasoning for hating the Tories. Tories are globalist scum pushing anti-Western agendas among their own people; for Rob it's le problematic heckin old white guy capitalists, which is a faggot stance to take.
>>97201808Your dad bending over and gripping his ankles with a black guy behind him was also "a faggot stance to take," but you still love him all the same. Hypocrite much?
>>97201853Touché anon! Well played
>>97192082Shitty e-celeb thread but I respect our mutual disdain of landlords.
>>97201808Globalists and capitalists are the same fucking thing.
Valakut editionPrevious: >>97129473>News & RemindersWorld Championship 31 won by Seth Manfield (Izzet Lessons, United States, he/him)Complete winter achievements for rewards December 16-January 6From November 18, 2025–January 19, 2026 Golden Packs will temporary contain cards differently than before due to "various pieces of internal nonsense"https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcements-december-15-2025>Useful Linkshttps://pastebin.com/QFA0hqaA>TQHave you played the brawl challenge, and if so, which commander?
>>97200112If you aren't playing 4x of these in your Standard deck, you aren't playing honest Magic.
Btw Brawl players are the biggest bots. When they see troll snow commanders their natural reaction ain't to concede and make life easier for both of us but sweat their ass off for 25 gold
Why should I not build a Yedora landfall brawl deck?
why the FUCK won't they let me set "view simplified" so I don't have to play against practically illegible ugly full art cards with fake fucking names? You'd think the "hide alternate card styles" toggle would be enough but no
>>97202216cus you might upset all the babies itt who cry about landfall
>take soulless Primarishit model>insert classic Forge World MkIV SOVL>??????>PROFIT!And the best part is, because the precedent established by Games Workshop Group v. Chapterhouse Studio explicitly protects compatible third-party accessories, there is nothing GW can do about it but cry and exclude them from their subsidized events.
>>97202123>but /tg/ is by no means a healthy boardOh it absolutely is compared to other blue boards, which are basically unusable at this point.
>>97202123The second part of that statement was, "if the janitors care enough to take action," with the operator that of they do not take action it means to does not matter that a lone autist is keeping a thread from falling off the bottom of the board. You're hung up on the quality of other people's posts, which is wannabe jannie behavior.And while I did not suggest that you, yourself, are defending Generals, by your own conduct you clearly are even if you choose to protest otherwise. By your own admission, you view this as a spam thread under some arbitrary definition of spam that doesn't seem to include repeated posting of the same image or text, both of which are unique on this board to this thread; you are treating it less than charitably because you think it was done with dishonest intension, and that it belongs back in the 40k General.You earn no cache with me by claiming that Generals are cancerous, then insisting that this thread belongs in a General because of some superficially milquetoast take that spam is bad; and as far mistaking symptoms for a cause, you literally quote me stating it is a corollary relationship, not a causal relationship.Another victim of Redditard brainrot. Your sense of board identity has been so thoroughly polluted by the ghettoization of discussion caused by - not symptomatic of - Generals that you instinctively rush to defend the status quo even while proclaiming to be against it. Sad.
>>97195726That just looks like a battle sister to me. Anon, why are you knowledgeable about tumblr trannies that you recognize them immediately?
>>97202206/tg/ is also unusable, but for a bevy of different reasons than /v/ or /a/>>97202284>whole lotta words just to say "nuh-uh, you like generals! Also ur reddit"Weak. >you instinctively rush to defend the status quo This pisspoor threads are PART of the status quo, idiot. People telling them to fuck off to the General is a reaction AGAINST the status quo, misguided as it may be
>>97201929>if someone replies "bump" to keep a thread alive, the post will be removed and the thread set to auto-sageThis never happens.
Skullcrusher edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>97180934 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, Sharty on the 'log and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97201962I think by and large age of sigmar armies can (very) roughly be divided into 4 categories :>1. Direct successorsYour skaven, seraphon, slaves to darkness... Armies that are basically 1 to 1 updates of older whfb armies, with maybe a slight change in lore (e.g. early aos 'daemons of order' seraphon) or a little shift in aesthetics.>2. Elevated subfactionThese are the type of armies that were previously a subtype of a larger whfb army turned into a full army. Kind of a leftover from the early days of aos, when the webstore was organized in these microfactions with soup tomes. Classic examples are nighthaunt and flesh eaters, spun off from vampires, or gloomspite being the night goblins of old (plus friends). DoK with witch elves and co are another example. All of the chaos monogods too, in a way.>3. Spiritual heirsMaybe not as directly 1 to 1 updates as the direct successors are, but still clearly based on a previously existing army, theme-wise. Lumineth are the posterboy for this one. I think you can count obr as a spiritual successor to tomb kings too, and sylvaneth with wood elves (though in that case more directly connected through models like the dryads or treelords). Helsmiths are this with chorfs imo.>4. The aos 'original'Your stormcast, your idoneth, your kharadron. Armies that are too different from previous factions to really be called successors, though there may be some inspiration here and there obviously.
>>97202065are fyreslayers an elevated subfaction or aos originals? are dawnbringers spiritual successors or aos originals?what about kruleboys and ironjaws?
>>97202065Oh and in addition, it's imo rare for an army to perfectly fit into one archetype. It happens, like with lumineth or skaven, but most are a bit of a borderline case. I already mentioned sylvaneth, which are both the spiritual successors to wood elves, while also going harder into one specific 'subgroup' of welves (the tree people), AND giving their own spin on things (the bugs and spites + revenant aspect). Fyreslayers are similarily obviously a whole army of slayers, yet different enough from normal slayers that they can be considered more of a spiritual heir than a direct successor.Kharadron are unlike (almost) anything we ever saw in whfb, but they do take a lot of inspiration from the higher tech side of old warhammer dwarfs, especially their gyrocopters, although even then they gave it their own spin.
>>97202083>FSsubfaction + spiritual heirs>nu-citiesspiritual heirs or aos orignal, I can see arguments for both>ironjawssubfaction>kruleboyzI would lean towards original but honestly for KB I can see them fitting in all four lolEh fuck it let me just give you the whole list>stormcastoriginal>skavendirectComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97201689>"Age of Wha? Son the only age I've ever cared about is the drinking age. Now get off of my docks we've got 30,000 units of Bush's Baked Beans rolling through."
Will our based autist do another end of year stats gathering editionPrevious thread: >>97161490Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/h8Tz2ze8Survey results: https://pastebin.com/YJPZ44rqTQs:We play games because it's fun and often argue how X is fun (or not), but rarely think about what exactly is the "fun" part of playing.>What is the most fun to you? Creating or experiencing a story/narrative? Challenge and competition? Novelty? Mastering a system? Immersive theme and artwork? No wrong answers>What boardgame do you think has the most percentage of sold but unplayed copies? Hobby boardgames only, so no risk/monopoly etc.
>>97202227>achieve picrel in 2026you mean failing your yearly resolution 1 day after you made it?
>>97202227Carcassonne should be all you need
>>97202227How many did you buy in 2025?
Inner peace in 2025 was realizing I didnt have any reliable not shitty people in my life and barely played 2+ players, so I just bought some solos I was missing and only go to the boardgame cafe rarely to do multiplayer. Being the one doing all the buying for a group is stupid, just made me realize I need to make better friends and not have all this stupid shit filling my house that gets used for 3 hours a month if even
>>97201468Lost Ruins of Arnak/Dune ImperiumBeyond the SunBurning Banners/Plum Island Horror - merging hex/chit with fantasy with an easy ruleset for normies while still making a good gameHegemonyArk Nova - This War Without and Enemy - novel take on block wargaming w/ CDGTycoon India: 1981 - proving that SE Asia designers can design not just good games but great ones.
Be Not Afraid editionPrevious >>97149329>Basics Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/GWjTU9Uv>Anon's Locals Survival Guidehttps://pastebin.com/xXp5jShL>Fanmade PC simhttps://pastebin.com/u6aKrBSg>Official Mobile sim (Release Date TBA)https://www.digimon-alysion.com/en/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97201666Yeah, I know we have that toy chaos mode thing but a real variant would be cool, especially if they incorporate some Megidramon elements instead of the angelic theming for crimson mode.Either way, I'm excited for when we get our next Dark knight dude. They definitely have one in the works if they printing the first searcher for it
>>97201721Can we just ban bt10 Venus already?
>>97202127I actually feel like it's super hard for most decks to pass 4 memory while achieving anything. Makes a great case for Digital Gate Open even if your deck has archetype/colour memory boosts
>>97202186>banning waifumonNot happening
>>97202254Definitely, it's kind of tricky to pass at 4 unless you like, hard play a 5. Curious how decks will adapt if this runs the meta.
Is Chaos wanking a problem in Warhammer?
>>97192033It's only chaotic because it isn't well written and none of the writers have ever made an attempt to keep it coherent at all.It's quite literally comparable to throwing random shit at a wall and seeing what sticks.
>>97174178Probably my least favorite thing about WHFB as a setting. Chaos Wastes are a frozen hellscape full of monsters and constant infighting. Imagine the infant mortality rate and how hard it would be to keep a farm or herd going. You have to survive many years as a marauder before being promoted to chaos warrior. But yeah it can generate vast chaos hordes every few years. Whereas the Empire has good infrastructure and can support massive urban populations. They have cannons and handguns that can fuck up monsters that you can train normal guys to use in a couple months tops.
>>97174178>FantasyBefore ET, "Chaos" wanking wouldn't be problem if the writers knew how to write barbarians (or write in general).Chaos is contained and are only allowed to get out just to "member chaos is le big bad".Just like the dark elves, as many bodies as the plot demands. And still can't even just carve themselves a place in the borders of Kislev because they've been displaced by another tribe and hold it for like 200 years at which point they are ready to take more. At least the dark elves can take Anlec for a decade or two before the high elves take it back.The Vampire counts are what Chaos wish it was: Infinite fodder, powerful elites with superhuman abilities, literally corrupting the land around them and it's a pain to remove it, actually can make gains(Red Duke, Kemmler, Sylvania in general, Neferata..). But Vampire Counts are such a threat that James did the Vampire Wars, looked at it during post nut clarity, saw the vampires were an actually competent evil force and never did anything (good) with it ever again.>40KBlah blah infinite fodder, blah blah Long War, blah blah all according to keikaku (keikaku means plan), blah blah Cadia was a total victory... But they can't win because the setting needs to keep existing so James can make money.. But they'll definitely win, guys.It's the same shit, without the ethnic roots Fantasy has. 40k Chaos is a blob of "le big bad" when they have to contend with Tyranids and Necrons doing pretty much the same thing.>AOSI only know that Archaon is still there and now he has destroyed "entire realities" off screen so at this kind of power level, I don't see how that can be compelling. Can't believe James killed Fantasy to get this sludge of "cool ideas with 0 depth". Yes that's to say I don't know shit about AOS and nor do I really care, but it's James writing Chaos, you know what to expect.
>>97201769>he thinks they herd goats and sheep or even keep farm animals in the chaos wasteslmaobut your point still stands. it's for the same reason elves are a dying race but keep getting into massive battles with heavy casualties
Because as much as people hate it. Every setting needs a punch clock Saturday morning cartoon villain for the good guys to beat over and over.
Why was XP for gold largely abandoned as a way to reward players?
>>97200016Why would I take time out of my week to plan a session with friends if the same can be achieved with a multiplayer strategy game?Or why would I bother 4-5 other people and not just play Dwarf Fortress?
>>97200761Why indeed?
>>97200826That's what I'm asking, dumb fucking nigger.If your granular experience can be replicated in a program with better granularity, why would anyone bother with asking less efficient humans to do it? The reason is that the players provide a story, which you dismiss as womanly
>>97200868>The reason is that the players provide a story, which you dismiss as womanlyThese types always forget that REH killed himself when his mom diedElfgames are for fairies to begin with
>>97161391dragonlance. can't complete the module AND haul all that worhless gold so now we are not leveling fast enough you see...
>Everyone• PLEASE BUMP THE THREAD IF IT REACHES PAGE 10!>Requesters:• Provide good, detailed references (pictures are better than verbal descriptions), so the artists know what you're looking for.• If you have a WIP quote the Anchor Post, and attach the WIP so your Drawfag can find you.• Do not reply to other deliveries with a request that the artist fill your request next. This is called 'piggybacking'.• Do not make multiple requests in the same thread and do not serially request multiple characters after a delivery. Suggesting several concepts for artists to choose from counts as making multiple requests.• If you're unsatisfied with your completed request, please wait at least one week before you re-request. If someone follows this rule, don't waste posts by complaining about it.• Stay on topic.>Drawfags and Drawfags-to-be:• Drop your tumblrs/websites/commission/etc information, but if you're dropping your commission info, please consider filling a request beforehand instead of just advertising.• Please keep AI deliveries to the /slop/ threads. This is a thread for human-made art.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
ANCHOR POSTPost your WIPs and finished products here.
>>97201840Requesting the rabbit girl (left) as a lava elemental/slime (some examples on the right, you are free to draw her as you want). If you can, please try to convey the feel of a being of large size, like a kaiju, it's not necesary, just something that would fbe very nice. For context: the rabbit girl has been imbued with the energy of a volcano and has become it's avatar.
Okay, so, I am playing a grand strategy roleplay for star wars. My character is an Imperial Grand Admiral (recently promoted) whose sole goal in life is to kill as many rebels as is humanly possible. I'm requesting art of the man - he's supposed to look like Bittenfield, but more buff, and in an Grand Admiral uniform.
>>97201840Anchoring WIP from drawfriend
>>97201840and leaving here the Request too just in case.the request in question my hedge knight dragonborn, a paladin following the oath of vengance on a quest to vanquish invading soldiers from his homelands. he's heroic, but also quite hateful and resentful
Moloch's Fun Park Edition>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What Trench Crusade is notTC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online:https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97200657Hey, who doesn't. Tall, dark, handsome, megalomaniac mass murdering oil-slick looking fella.
>>97200380second heretic warband: The obsidian hounds
How do heretic troopers get their mummified fetus and what purpose does it serve?
>>97201850It's an Unholy Trinket. It's a talisman.
>>97201850The child comes along to the battlefield, afrer mom was sacrificed in the temple of Mephistopheles.
>Brutus' Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDYVVpbllIREdOczg?resourcekey=0-m3LU1xaC5-PnnA0VLRfK9g>DriveAnon's Drivehttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Cx7KoDkQa9qmDfJN9_CehZ0fxXEweKOu?usp=sharing>Jumpchain IRC Chathttp://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA>Ruleshttp://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn>How to Jumpchainhttp://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDVDFBR2NpdG03S0U/viewComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97192617 EXIT SHITHANEXIT FLOPHANEXIT JOBHAN>>97200759Remind whoever keeps glazing TURDhan that Gohan isn't part of our culture.
>>97201698>Make Gooberhan thread>Be surprised it's treated like a LEPERPerhaps this thread would be more POPULAR if the CELL MAX was more widely CELEBRATED here. Hint. HINT.
>>97201600Your powers should come from the realisation that a fake woman is still more of a man than Gohan will ever be.
I think Gohan is a pretty cool guy. Eh fights aliens and doesn’t afraid of anything.
>>97202181He literally afraids of his own FUCKING powerlevel, the absolute pumpkin.
Thread #006 Dark Imperial Blood EditionWelcome to /schreck/ where you can rp your VTM character! For all questions concerning the World of Darkness, please consult the WoDg and CoDg thread>>97129837Previous Thread>>97024850Brief rules>We have no story teller, we are acephali>Threads are v20 based, although the night is long and full of whispers, lies, and half-truths. Decide your own canon but all will not believe you>all nicktuku will be diablerized on sight>all OOC discussion should be spoileredTHREAD QUESTIONComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Even though this stale blood tastes like pfas and rubbing alcohol I’m glad I’m not fighting for my life in somewhere like marquetteI was really hoping this would be a turkey shoot that we could stack but shit goes loco way too fast, I really don’t think we would have been able to clear those thin shovels without.. well I don’t think it’s wise for me to disclose who they were but they were good men >>97132522The pay is good I’ve got all the blood I need but I feel like I’ve sold out on this line of work I wonder if your ability to see the future is genuine or you are really good at spying on people so I’m curious and would like a reading
>>97201638I'm a magic woman, with magic cards, and a magic ego, and a pleasantly lower level of derangement than most other clairvoyants you can go to. Give me a topic if you want a specific reading, I'll make a broad one otherwise and that could be less useful than an answer to a question about, for instance, your love life, immediate threats or whatever else.
>>97201377>Reading the drama going on with your family makes me so unbelievably happy I'm not a Toreador. Your Clan scares me in a way I find hard to put into words.I read this aloud and Venus was cackling like a witch. An insider secret: flatter a Toreador by praising their power and fearsomeness before their looks or artistic talent.>>97201455>Not unless you eat somebody of her level. Can't quite suggest doing that, as it would be both extremely difficult and a sure way to lose access to civilized Kindred society. Sounds tasty, though.>lessons in DisciplinesSuperpowers? Now you're speaking my language.>your boyfriendBoy Toy loves me, though I don't know if he's allowed to have a gf, Mom never stopped us or called Boy Toy anything more than a slave. It's up to her and how well our return goes if I keep playing with him. The last thing I want is a jealous sire.>the Brujah in my coterie, the woman with a mohawk. I think you've been in the same room as her once or twice, at this point? Not sure if you two talked.Danced more than talked. Nice thighs and tats. I leave my education to mom for now, for this girl's safety too.>Thinbloods in BridgeportThat's why the family bullies those in NY.>before you were Embraced, you inherited her enemies by virtue of belonging to her through a Childe of hers.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>97201638I'll PM you some of the tricks I use to make bagged blood taste better. It'll never be as good as the fresh stuff, but you can make it far more bearable. It'll also help the stuff last longer as an added bonus.>>97201957See, it's not the fearsomeness or the power that sends a chill down my spine, I'm a Tremere, power and fear are the standard for dealing with anyone higher up than you in the Pyramid (not that I'm a part of it anymore) or the general age/generation thing. It's the way your Clan manipulates and twists people around. Fuck, even the Malks who can slap you upside the head with schizophrenia don't wig me out as much as the Roses. I can understand using fear and pain as both punishment and tool to teach, I can understand molding childer into what they need to be to survive the nights ahead of them. But there's something about the way Toreadors make you *want* the manipulation that bothers me, in some ways more than nearly any other Clan.>I'm fucked, aren't I?Yeah, you are. But so is everyone else here. Were all just traumatized monsters aping being people at the end of the night. The ones to be really worried about are the ones who don't even bother trying to be normal.I'm not trying to sound like a shrink, I swear. I've just been reading a book about Kindred psych recently. I still haven't managed to figure out what specifically is wrong with it either, but my best two guesses are that there's what's left of a Malkavian's soul stuck in it, or that whoever wrote the damned thing was just pouring Dementation into it to the point there may as well be part of their soul stuck in it. Jay had to pull me out of a screaming match with the fucking thing earlier too. As soon as Lavender wakes up from his long nap I'm going to bug the hell out of him for more details about where he got his hands on it.
>>97201957>Superpowers? Now you're speaking my language.If superpowers took a long, long time and lots of effort to master, yes. Sufficiently powerful Kindred you might run into can do quite terrifying things; this place has a persistent presence of Tremere, who are known for fielding a wide variety of magic abilities that include hitting you with lightning or boiling your blood, as very vivid samples, and Tzimisce, who are infamous for frequently turning their enemies, or particularly unfortunate servants, into living, breathing, suffering furniture. >Danced more than talked. Nice thighs and tats.Yes, definitely her. She's a Potence expert, meaning that she's particularly adept with the superpower consisting of punching things really, really, really hard. Me and my coterie a while ago had to clean out a basement. The entrance to it was locked, because it naturally always is. Romeo, who was with us on that job, proposed letting him charm his way into the building above the basement, look for an extra entrance or two there. I wanted to argue that it'd take a while, but Tats, to refer to her anonymously enough, decided she'd rather get hangry than spend an hour playing investigator or listen to us talk, so she just punched the reinforced metal door clean off of its hinges. The strike pulverized both the hinges and the lock, sent the door flying, and the door itself on its way crumpled a few ghouls before ending up stuck halfway through a concrete wall. >That's why the family bullies those in NY.The principle still applies; while the average thinblood is a nobody worth nothing to anybody, at least some thinbloods are worth something to somebody, and that could turn a night's entertainment into a big headache. Keep the bit of risk in mind with your every step.>This wasn't in the job description. So that's why nobody wanna be kicked out of the house.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
What's the most exotic location the players have traveled to in your game?
>>97201340The latest non-existent 4chan boogeyman that you can blame anything on.
>>97196534Modern world, some oil tanker overran by somali pirates.We were a bunch of vikings lost at sea.I miss my wand of ak-47.
>>97202218>The latest non-existent 4chan boogeyman Really makes you think >>97183368https://imgur.com/user/Ututu222
>>97201340Puckee is a known redditor who has spammed his commissions for 4-5 years as the other anon has pointed out, his threads are all low quality with vague questions just to so he can post his commissions. At one point, he had at least 3 threads up at all times and posted his commissions weekly in various threads. See his "lich" commission he spammed throughout late 2021 to 2022 throughout that year almost weekly.https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/image/0uAsjic8baHEf61Jm2Wu6Q%3D%3D/page/4/He has also spammed his commissions on other threads like the draw thread, trying to pass his paid commissions as fills.https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/92628290/#92687500Anons picked up on his spam in 2022 and he has also infested the character art threads since then, posting at least a few of his commissions in every thread.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/84892301/#84901094
I mean how exotic are we talking here? My players have gone to different dimensions, probably doesn't get more exotic than that. Or did you mean within the confines of the setting of the world?
In my games, high level wizards turn to stone.
>>97195417ok
>>97196344>>97196362
>>97195417Natural immunity.
>>97195421In Elden Ring you turn yourself into a crystal to basically leave your mortal vessel behind and have your mind linger in a dimension that is an endless stream of magic. Your mind is elevated beyond that of other sorcerers but in return your body is now completely useless save for, if you are lucky, extremely limited interactions. Also the concept of death no longer exists in The Lands Between and Sorcery magic comes from magical crystals and rocks that fell from the stars as well as the alien creatures from the cosmos.
>>97195578Sounds like a pretty retarded method of achiving excellence.. Does it work with other professions as well? Do dentists turn into teeth? Do chefs turn into pastry? Do proctologists turn into OP?
