>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>93176228Alliance of Fryreslayers and [REDACTED], edition >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com >Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/ >Tools:warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/ >Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/ >Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php >Thread question:Do your dudes have a symbol or iconography that represents them as opposed to any other schlub?
>>93183313Maybe 2+ Fat has a mumbly review of it you can 'listen' too. Don't worry he was a play tester for PtG, so hard things like 'tracking casualties' and 'knowing what territory you have' is removed. Now it's just EPIC PERKS for your heroes- Just like in my Vidya games!!!!!!
Are there any good AoS battle report channels? I'm not up with the cool kids on the interwebs.
>>93184667Battle reports are for losers
>>93184578Its a shame hes one of the only youtube aos lore posters.So damn cheery, it doesnt even seem natural.
They've announced events for every game but warcry and underworlds. What is going on?
Got any AOS audiobook recs? I've listened to Bad Loon Rising and Neferata: The Dominion of Bones, they were alright painting fodder. I have Dark Harvest and The Return of Nagash, is there anything else that's at least background noise worthy?
>>93184814There are events for either game scheduled at Warhammer World and elsewhere in the coming weeks and months. There's a Warcry event to be held at Warhammer World this Sunday. I don't know what's supposed to be going except what currently is.
>>93184667I only watch season of war and battleshock nowadays, can't be assed to sit through long form.
>>93184843The Drekki Flynt ones are fine. A little unusual since the text is annotated to fill the reader in on the Kharadron language, and those annotations are read aloud in the audiobooks. But it works. Grombrindal: Chronicles of the Wanderer is also a good one, and also a little unusual, because it was largely published as a series of short stories which were then compiled in an episodic format. But because it's episodic it might work well for painting sessions. It also features many different narrators between the different episodes, so while it may feel uneven it will at least provide some variety.I also gotta rep Scourge of Fate and Blood of the Everchosen, because I just love the audiobook adaptation of those two. The narrators do a fantastic job of characterizing the different Chaos cultures by putting on different voices, especially in BotE.>Bad Loon Rising>The Return of NagashI'd love to have those if it's no trouble to you.
well shit, seller only sent half my order and now they're ghosting me. time to do battle with customer service again. ffs i just want to paint little plastic soldiers.
Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?
>>93184809It's pure shill energy.
>>93184965Thanks for the update
>>93184965What’re ya buyin?
>>93184965I ordered an LRL spearhead for $90 on ebay, got it that the same week. Seller had more so I bought another. Still hasn't shipped it 2 weeks later.
>>93185114FEC knights, the ones riding the bats. doing a nurgle FEC fusion/conversion army. got the GUO earlier this week. still waiting on the big bulk order that has most of the units which is coming from overseas, probably take a week or two for that to show up. i little frustrating because i want to start testing out the scheme, but the only shit thats shown up so far is the big expensive centerpiece, gonna wait till i get some little guys to test out paintjobs which means the whole project is kinda stalled for a week or two while the infantry is on its way and the knights are in limbo
>>93185142might be time to file a report. ebay has pretty good seller protection, including a money back guarantee. worst case scenario you get your money back. might want to get on that though, from what i remember you only have 30 or 60 days to file a report. cant remember which.
>>93185172It's still not past the arrival date which is listed as like mid/late July, otherwise I would.I actually checked just now before submitting this post and the arrival date changed from July12-18 on the original listing to June 29- July 6. The first one actually arrived from a well known store in Missouri, so I suspect they're doing some under the table hijinks to sell at greater than GW-permmitted discount by selling merch on a random ebay account listed in Vietnam.
>>93184578The completely destroyed it. Like holy shit. I agree the casualties thing was bad, but this... This is insanely bad
>>93185200oh yeah you've still got time then, the window to file a report doesnt start until the arrival date has passed from what i remember. might be worth checking the policy just in case though dont take my word for it. the seller i ordered from is a similar situation. listed halfway across the world but shipped from the southern US. i dont think its an outright scam because they did send half the boxes i ordered. if it was a scam you would think they would just not send anything or ship an empty package or something.
>>93185265>i dont think its an outright scam because they did send half the boxes i ordered. if it was a scam you would think they would just not send anything or ship an empty package or something.True, the one I did get is new in shrinkwrap and sounds perfectly fine if I shake it. I figured, for $90, fuck the elf tax. It's a great box, too.
>>93184963Took a bit to download, convert, and uploadhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1b8g0stDI1NY7SkkSxGgwcJR9mBoOz7fL/view?usp=drive_link
>>93182793You wouldn't also happen to have a Arena of Shadow pdf as well, would you? I've been trying to get a collection of 3rd editions boxset's going, and Arena and Arcane cataclysm are the last ones left for me to find.
Had to sell my Flesheater Courts army for emergency funds looking for a new army to start the new edition off with. Should i go Ogres,Deepkin or one of the chaos factions?
>>93185590ogres will probably be really cheap to make an army with, but you probably wont have a good time with em in 4th. Idk about idk. Chaos is all around looking great, Nurgle is probably the cheapest and easiest to collect right now.
>>93185605>probably wont have a good time with em in 4th.Whys that? Did they make them shit somehow?
>>93185625yeah their rules are looking pretty bare bones, the impact hits do about half as much damage and also have a 33% chance to just not do damage, stonehorns lost their durability mechanic, the whole army got about 25% slower on movement speed as well, and for all of those nerfs they didnt really get anything cool or new in return. hard to say for sure since we havent seen the full picture, but they're looking kinda lame at the moment, just a bunch of slow, fragile wounds that kinda hit hard if they can ever reach you. the minis are timeless soul though, and i do regret selling mine sometime back. LOTS of personality and customization. the arms, weapons, heads, gutplates, and other bits from every kit from the humble glutton to the mighty frostlords and ironblasters are all interchangable, you can use mournfang hackers to make gluttons into ironguts, steal crossbows from the beastriders to convert on foot hunters, give a leadbelcher cannon to your thundertusk for a bit of flavor, etc. they all use the same joints.they also have the added benefit of being pretty cheap kits comparitively, and very cheap on the secondhand market like trolltrader or ebay
>>93184426Ha. I thought someone got confused and put in votann art for a moment.
>>93185812>>93185625oh and the new gorger kit is absolutely fucking amazing. absolutely get at least 1 set of those if you end up getting ogres. some of the coolest sculpts in the whole game, and surprisingly customizable for a new kit
>>93185812>>93185827Yeah those gorgers look greatI'll prob wait for the game to release before i decide. Luv me ogres.
>>93185590deepkin look almost exactly the same as they have for the last 3 editions. they kept their tides of death mechanic pretty much completely unchanged, the units still do mostly the same thing except shield eels are more of a techy debuff unit now rather than just a raw stats anvil. sharks look amazing, deadly and carry some good utility, and they have the scryers outflank baked into their core rules now. as for the models, your enjoyment of atlantis and elf themes will directly correlate to how much you like the range. i had them in the past, fun models, only problem is the eels have obnoxiously fragile flying bases so look into an alternative basing solution like gluing them to rocks or terrain attached to the base or something
>>93185881Yeah they're great although i wish they had more sea creatures.Probably going to be split between them and Ogres.
>>93185590for chaos, khorne and slaves to darkness are both looking very punch and very tanky. good armor saves all around, slaves have a reworked buffing mechanic that can stack infinite buffs, very good for juicing fat units of warriors/chosen/knights/varanguard on steroids. meanwhile khorne got better saves on their basic warriors, and seems to have gotten better attack profiles in a few places, as well as keeping their blood tithe mechanic for out of phase shenanigans and free bloodthirsters. nurgle is kinda doing what it always does. a shitload of wounds on a 5+ fnp just standing on objectives making you sick if you get near them. summoning is now tied to the great unclean one, but their disesase mechanic looks maybe a bit more impactful as a tradeoff. low damage on the units themselves but anyone standing next to them for any length of time will be taking a lot of mortal wounds. tzeentch still has its cheat dice, kairos has a rule to literally cheat at the game by manipulating scoring, and they got a new flame mechanic where their shooting units light enemies on fire causing a debuff that deals damage and ties in with other units special rules, though the full extent of this has yet to be revealed. slaanesh.......just dont. its bad
Ogors need a range refresh badly I dunno what that other guy was waffling on about
Another belf LrL.
>>93186327looks sweet.
>>93186083they'll get one, they hardly even bothered writing rules for their spearhead. You can't use half your units for the half the game is their entire allegiance ability lol.
>>93186083Their resin needs to go but a lot of the plastic is fine. We need a tyrant kit that doesn't suck ass
>>93186402i liked the new tyrant, what was wrong with him?
>>93186402this guys great. you're smoking crack
>>93186545how'd he go and grab that stormcast faceplate.
My FLGS is starting a spearhead league. It's a competitive format, bring three spearheads and one gets banned, then you pick. What three spearheads do you think I should run into this?
>>93186636slaanesh, ogres, gitz.
>>93186636well, considering you're going to have to build and paint $500 worth of models i'd say pick ones you like the look of.barring that, most of them look good, but i'd avoid ogres and seraphon. those 2 look kinda shit as far as rules go
>>93186660the gsg one looks ok to me, it has a ton of board control.
>>93186402Wrong. Ogor plastics belong in fantashit
>>93184970>One of the few fighty heroes>Perfect to ally in>No more alliesRIP Sigvald, you were fun to play in S2D as long as it lasted.
>>93186569He ate it and shat it out. Mawtribes style
>>93186780>>93186402We kinda know already they will rework it from base once there is a slot. Both new heroes, the Bloodpelt Hunter and the Tyrrant, have slightly different proportions. Bloodpelt Hunter has even a different style of the face sculpt as well as a way smaller head in comparsion. New gorgers loosely fit in as well. Once the new kits arrive the old ogor kits will feel quite cartoonish.
>>93186833>One of the few fighty heroeshe's really not, at least in 3rd.
>>93186977he's comfy
I'm shocked that this is still the only model leak we have had so far.
>>93186989we'll get the reveal after the skaven kick SCE ass.
>>93186977It says more about the unhealthy state of 3rd than it does about sigvald if a guy with an average of 7 attacks at 2s and 3s -2 d2 ignoring wards with +3 to charge and strikes first isn't considered fighty
>>93186989I hate how the new regiment system has me thinking "What units will this new hero unlock? Will it be worth it? Will I need him for this or that unit?" instead of "Yay new Skryre hero!"
>>93187011Remember you can pay 1cp a turn to ignore the regiment system entirely
>>93187009Because its 6 damage on a slow 200 point foot assassin, it has nothing to do with power creep.
>>93186636>spearhead>competitive>requires 3 armies per playerwhat the fuck is your store bro
>>93187011Gotta make sure people buy the entire range for their armies somehow.You're right to dread how they'll divide the skryre units and heroes though.
>>93187011its just going to functionally prevent spam. Having generals and warmasters have omni-slots will cover most builds.
Would it be reasonable for me to fear that lord of afflictions and rot coven won't exist with the launch?
>>93187071Paypigs and a findom redshirt.
>>93187011Personally I love it, it encourages some form of nuance to list building.
As one of the 12 or so people who actually plays Crusade, does AoS have something similar?
>>93186865Thats why his right arm is all bloody and he is grimacing. That faceplate tore his asshole into pieces coming out.
>>93187227Path to Glory
I finished the unit, having a shitty night so the paint is soothing.
And from the front
>>93186989That's likely second wave, but here's hoping eshin and pestilens get something at least. And the new hero rat ogre has some alt head sculpts
>>93187227Yup.4th Edition is going to put more of an emphasis on the Narrative mode of Path to Glory. Rules for building custom characters will be in there.
>>93187388>the new hero rat ogre has some alt head sculptsThere's an acceptable chance of that since it's not in a starter box, if nothing else you can lop off the horn and greenstuff over it.
>>93187011lovin it since it makes waac-fags seethe.
>>93187011I love the regiment system. I miss the old days of warscroll battalions being so important. I want the armies to follow their lore, not just bring the 5 best things 3 times.
>>93187418>>93187388That or use some of the rat ogre alt heads since they apparently come with some head and arm options.
>>93186989we had the ratling cannon and the big rat ogre
>>93187451Now it's just "bring the best hero-unit-combo 5 times".
>>93187722They would have to fuck up the balance pretty hard for that to be optimal. I'm not saying it won't happen for some armies but it won't be a norm
faction packs this weekend
>>93184426Soon
>>93187722Generally winning lists tend to bring the best available units. There's never been an edition that wasn't true.
>>93187768I hope you get your wish, Settranon.
>>93187768how would you implement him?
>>93187766definitely not this weekend. Maybe next friday ? But probably still too early for gw
>>93187804trust me
>>93187849What's your source?
>>93187902He is either shitposting, makes a guess based on the non-spearhead-batreps announced for the Weekend, or knows something because he is either playtester or knows someone who knows someone.
>>93186545Too armoured, too thin and such a static gesture it makes you hate seeing unconverted versions
>>93187766It'll drop on a weekday and maybe next just because they are necessary to play what's in the box because the galaxy brained tournament players at GW thought warscroll cards are redundant inclusions
>>93187902His source is literally "trust me". You just have to believe
You guys ever had a girl/lover ask you about your models? I got a story from this past week>been painting nurgle mortals like crazy for the past 2 months for 4th edition>moved to a new country a year ago for work>older female colleagues egg me on and hype me up to date one of the young women at work>finally cave>talk to one girl who's a few years older than me>we've been following each other on instagram for a a few months>we talk a lot and she asks me about my hobby>explain hobbying to her>she pulls up pic rel from my instagram and asks me "what is this character called">explain maggotkin to her>"they're mutated warriors who worship daemons of disease">she comes to my office the next day to chat and show it to her>she thinks my hobby is realy cool>she likes all my progress pics on instagramthank god I'm not into slaanesh. anybody have similar stories of ladies reacting to your miniature toy collections? I heard chicks like orks and tyrannids
>>93182021Webspinner shaman is a 2 cast with a +1 to cast and unbind
>>93185305Belated thank you
>>93187777Joke character as a talking skull in one of those OBR monsters filled with them
>>93184426My Ogors are a long standing band of mercenaries that view their wealth as a sign of experience, power and status. They use the blood money they earn to craft jewellery and armour, the coins smelted down in blessed boiling blood and forged.into equipment as strong as steel, shining as bright as a sun. Its from these plates they've picked up the name Glintbellies, the most arrogant band of fatties to ever walk the realms.An Ogor is only accepted into the Glintbellies when he has earned or pillaged enough wealth to forge his own gutplate. They have an initiation ceremony where the old, iron gutplate is ritualistically consumed and the brand new gold gutplate is first worn....At least thats how I justify what my Ogors have so much gold on them.
>>93186083No, they don't. Ogor plastic kits are a dream to work with compared with new shit. Everything is logically laid out and easy to convert. They are simple and intuitive and the sculpts are still good.Meanwhile, the gorgers are like putting together a jigsaw puzzle and are just as monopose as the old kits without having any of the customization options. The old Ogor plastic kits are cross compatible and its great. Meanwhile Gorgers take a lot of work if you want to use pieces from them.The only thing they win on is detail....and even that is barely. There are loads of little bitz and pieces you can use to add onto the Ogors. The Ironblaster kit is amazing for it, same with the Stonehorn. So yeah, you're fucking wrong, We only need half a refresh with the finecast. Everything else is great.
>>93187902you have to believe!
>Spearhead MSU isn't half the normal count it is the normal MSU Yikes
>>93185812Why do you think that ogres are slow? They are still faster then half the infantry in the game. Not being very fast anymore doesn't magically make them slow
I want to start a new army. Ironjawz or Kruleboyz, like the look of both. Which one is easier to play and paint?
>>93188220Ironjawz, easily.
>>93188220Ironjawz are really easy to paint with subassembly for their armour imo and they seem to play simplistically in 4e Kruleboyz have a lot of little details and are a little more complicated
>>93188220IJ js easier on both aspects. Lots of metal, few materials, no cloth, large areas. Their play stile is literally just go forward and kill
>>93188220Coming from an Ironjawz player: if you like both equally get Kruleboyz.Kruleboyz are much much cheaper to get into right now (Ironjawz don't even have a spearhead box) and seem pretty good and simple to play in 4th.The complexity of Ironjawz just shot through the roof with the 4th edition rules, they used to be possibly the simplest army in the game, but now it looks like they will require good game knowledge and tactical planning to be effective.
>>93184426Leagues of Votann looking pretty good.
>>93187974I talked about age of sigmar to some coworker and an older female coworker started googling it and looked at models on gw website. I talked to her and turns out she really liked the idea of hobbying so she bought some sylvaneth, built them and we also played a bunch together.
>>93188109>The only thing they win on is detailWhich is a two sided edge considering detail creeps makes models and armies more and more of a chore to paint. I really like my Ogors because they are less detailed and I have room to go wild with freehands
>>93187974My BF is generally not interested in warhammer but has painted a few Ogres and also plays games with me using his bishoujo statues as daughters of behemat.
>>93188232>>93188233>>93188235>>93188244So painting is definitely easier on with Ironjawz if I see your reactions, but gameplay time will tell with 4e? Think I'll start with some ardboyz then to try the ironjawz out!
>>93187768>serve or rule>serve>be a slave to the system, hierarchy's bitch>rule>still a slave to the system, still hierarchy's bitchI dont give a damn about either. I live, i am, i wonder the worlds and star voids. I am free.
Now that high elves are inspired by Chinese mythology, what upcoming army will occupy the Greek theming in Age Of Sigmar? Surely DOK can share that spot with another army.
>>93188379idoneth?
>>93188379LRL are Greek+Chinese
>>93188316>homosexual >Ogors player Every time
>>93188395More specifically Tyrion is Greece and Teclis China
If I take the Dominion Stormcast and add it to the Skaventide stormcast, is it the guts of a decent army or did they get squatted during the Stormcast purge?
>>93184426>love dorfs>love warhammer fantasy>hate kharadron overlords>hate fryeslayersThat art looks fucking neat but I hate the lack of actual faces and beards.
>>93188472Dispossessed exi- Oh
>>93188468All the Dominion stuff is sticking around. No idea how it'll work with the Skaventide units, it's tough to make the call before being shown all the new battle formation traits, spells, prayers, and warscrolls.
>>93188468nothing from dominion got squatted, it's the previous starter box Soul Wars that did.take those two together and you've got a nice start for a Stormcast army but way too many heroes.
Did they ever say if the current legends range would carry over to the 4e rework? Wanderers weren't squatted that long ago Would be funny to see Brets renewed and persist
>>93188474Dispossessed broke my heart.>it's fine, they're still in CoS
>>93188485At least they'll be available to buy with ToW and inarguably playable until the CoS battletome drops
>There is more art of attractive dwarven women in AOS than there is of human womenBit odd.
>>93188520>>At least they'll be available to buy with ToWI'm absolutely hyped for them returning for ToW, I just wish they were still present in the major game system. Not sure how long ToW will last.I'd settle for Kharadron Overlords with exposed faces. Weird that in 40k the votann can all be helmet-less.
>>93188472Fucking ratmen get gorgeous new minis and a launchbox.Dwarfs get tinmen and one of the worst fucking line of miniatures.
>>93188574They're present in 4e and will be 100% playable until the CoS battletome releases within 3 years. After that it's just whether your opponent is a dick
>>93188578Here's hoping Fyreslayers get the Stormcast treatment, as they actually need it.Squat the old ones and redo the army with pic related as the basis for their design.
>>93188597>hoping Fyreslayers get the Stormcast treatmentNo. Fuck that.
>>93188597I can't see them refreshing non-SCE AoS kits
>>93188578Jesus christ that looks terrible and it's not the paintjob
>>93188485There situation so weird>ToW Dwarfen moutain holds tm next>Do a mass squatting of models> Only announce Beastmen and savage orc squatting> cos dwarf still in the index> CoS rules pushes mixing> all models are sold out and repackageThere was no communication there was no organization. Hoping 4th is the end of this weird dance with TOW because they can't keep two seprate peices of paper
>>93188597No they don't.t. actually own fyreslayersWorry about your own army.
>>93188777post models.
>>93188744They announced what was leaving in that wave, Dispossessed came after and the Empire/StD stuff will come after that. GW are never consumer friendly with these announcements: they come after the shift to end production has happened. WarCom are basically damage control.
>>93188220It's crazy to me that they never made an edition box featuring ironjawz, literally one of the easiest armies to paint well. Ever their big monsters like maw gruntas and cabbages can be as simple as basecoat, wash, drybrush and then lighter drybrush
>>93188912Ironjawz were one of the earliest releases for AoS but still more complicated than the ETB Khorne and SCE kits
>>93188912in a box there will always be marines, and since marines are an elite army, their opponents can only be a horde army to make the box seems like it contains a reasonable number of models
>>93188930Yep, I believe this is the only reason why hobgrots exist in Kruleboyz.
>>93189004exactly, there's no hobgrot anywhere else in the range except one in an underworlds warband, only normal goblins
haven't touched aos in years, what's the news on Emberneth Aeves?
>hobgrots were stolen from the future chorf release just to inflate the model count of Dominionlol
>>93189069I think this is the first I've even heard of that.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/28/warhammer-community-staff-paint-the-stormcast-eternals-of-skaventide/
>>93189069they don't exist, dudetheir one and only mention ever is about the fact they're fucking extinct
>>93189082shit that scheme looks cool.
>>93189069They're coming after the Rootkings next year.
>>93188472Wait for chorfs
>>93189083how many times has an extinct people returned now? KO, IDK, OBR, Kragnos
>>93189119What's to say Chuardin won't be to chorfs what fyreslayers and KO are to their fantasy equivalents?
>>93189122once: draconithko weren't extinct idk weren't extinctobr weren't extinctkragnos's people is still extinct
>>93189136I know that a lot of people love these but I really can't stand the blank helmets
>>93189162Some kind of daemon facemasks would be cool for a potential redesign. Though them becoming faceless was kind of the point fluffwise.
>>93189082>>93189087I feel like they could benefit from white, silver, or gold masks. The lack of a plumed crest also means they can't have the traditional red on there. But the paint job looks rad in any case.
>>93189082I just can't get behind the new designs. It's like they keep trying to attract non Stormcast players and don't care about the people who picked up SC for what they were in the first place. Doesn't get much more obvious than just squatting all of the sacrosanct
Oh I like these. The white gold looks classy.
>>93189199almost as if fatcasts were a terrible mistake that not only sold underwhelmingly despite the constant support but also dragged down the entire IP by association
>>93189082Slightly better view of them
>>93189157Kragnos' people are alive, read Dawnbringers. KO were presumed dead and a surprise to the people of the realms, only joining the setting after their release in the fluff. Same with IDK. OBR, Katakros, was MIA until Forbidden Power. Lorelets shouldn't post anything about the fluff.
How do we stop them
>>93189250A cartoonish cat.
>>93189266
>>93189215Well all of AoS was but you don't see them squatting it.
>>93188597They absolutely knocked it out of the park with these. An army with that level of quality would be worth collecting.
>>93189285Fyreslayers look great in general aside from their two and only other infantry kits which is just cursed
Talking ratshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/28/warhammer-studio-interview-designing-the-new-skaven-while-respecting-the-classics/
>>93189119>>93189136Exactly. Big hats or bust.
>>93189355Hell even 4e and FW chorf fans can't agree with each other. Pretty sure big hats will win out because GW is all about muh retro aesthetic atm
>>93189226kragnos people are POSSIBLY alivekharadrons were as much of a surprise as any people that survived the age of chaos, doesn't make them extinctidk were never considered extinct by anyonekatakros is not a people you are the lorelet
>>93189363GW also got rid of savage orcs, so they might want to avoid the an evil race with a vaguely Persian aesthetic.IMO that would be a waste, the FW ones are too generic.
This dude is finally done on the pait job but Idk how to drybrush the basing paste. It's AK mudy ground. Should I use dark green, a light green like moot green or ice yellow to look maggoty?
>>93189363I'm all for it. GW has been catering to me, specifically, for the last couple years and I'm not going to complain while the train keeps running on time.
>>93189205>>93189211>tfw i can paint better than this
>>93189199As someone who liked the first rendition of them idk how you don’t see the progression of design. You say that as if they’re removed from their core design
>>93189383for reference here's a lord of blights with ice yellow drybrush
>>93189395You now understand why modern GW tutorials are so fucking shit
>>93189382I wish people could grow up and just appreciate historical analogues for monstrous regimes and admit that they are both cool AND terrible and still very much not representative of their descendants today. Like conquistadors.
>>93189333Oh boy, more masturbating over their new models
>>93189333>After several failed attempts to mix silver and blue paints together, I instead sprayed them all in LeadbelcherLiterally me
>>93189395That's sort of the point. If they only show off Golden Demon level stuff, people will be put off.
>>93189419Look man we gotta keep people hyped until the actual pre order date is here, get those filler articles rolling every single day
>>93189333> But Skaven are fundamentally fantastical, and we needed to ground things a little, which is why we have the Grey Seer and the Warlock Engineer in there – classic Skaven archetypes that have stood the test of time. THEN WHY DID YOU CHANGE EVERY SINGLE THING ABOUT THE WARLOCK TO THE POINT OF IT BEING THE SAME UNIT/MODEL IN NAME ONLY
>>93189443Probably because of the battletome or a new unit
>>93189199>>93189215>>93189402how would you make stormcast look less like space marines and emphasize their fantasy setting more? how do you create a unique identity and distinguish them? I think the gold and blue scheme was a mistake. silver is much better. >>93189409>>93189395oh come on these dudes look better than 90% of what you see on tables in any given space. I'm not doubting your hobby skills but I think the guy deserves some slackthat white brooch on the lord vigilant desperately needs some more definition though
>>93189443>But Skaven are fundamentally fantastical, and we needed to ground things a little
>>93189424isn't that literally grey knights steel though? tinting/coloring a metallic paint is as easy as applying contrast paint or recess shading it with wash a few times.
>>93188744I think they will remove them because the duality of AoS/TOW for the kits is undesired. Most likely they will do so when the Battletome releases. Up to that point, people buying the models for both games might boost the sales which is likely what GW wants and why they didn't pushed them out of AoS early. I can imagine that they use this to push the TOW sales numbers this way. When the indexes drop and dwarves rules are pushed we might have a confirmation here. Once the Tome comes I expect them to either remove the Dwarves or replace them by a new model wave. If it is the latter I think we will see new kinds of units that makes reusing old Dwarves (and Elves) as hard as possible
>>93189479Quit teasing me with these gas masks, James! Reveal the new Acolytes!
>>93189511What a waste of a starter army. Can't wait for Domtanic 2.0
>>93189467>how would you make stormcast look less like space marinesMaybe I’m autistic but beyond being armored I don’t think they’ve ever looked like space marines to me >emphasize their fantasy setting moreThe armor design is uniquely an AoS thing. Even chaos doesn’t do bulk the same way Stormcasts do despite having the opportunity to. They’ve already done that with the motifs of celestial bodies. Stars, comets, flames, suns, moons, lightning. If you read the design article they state how even things like the wings of the prosecutors are influenced by designing them like celestial bodies. They have embellishments on armor and accessories built in the likeness of lightning their eponyms. >how do you create a unique identity and distinguish them? Again might be my autism but I think they’re solidly unique and distinguished. The issue is there’s so much stormcasts that all look the same that they cannot show the true range and extent that model line can go. Every stormcast is effectively a hammer of sigmar painted a different color. Celestial Vinidcators literally worships swords on top of being buttfuckingly mad all the time but what of the models convey that? Astral Templars also worship a god beast bear who may be Ulrich or whatever his name is. Same issue I think the anvils have it the worst however they’re ancient fucking weirdos and in the books they’re often covered in weird shit, talismans, dead languages, literal ghost spirit humonculi. The Hallowed Knights are so eager to put themselves through strife and tribulations to test their faith that they literally strap broken chaos relics to them they took in battle. They finally decided to do a different scheme for the box which I love but it’s a missed opportunity for bits and actually distinguishing stormcasts I pray to Sigmar that if they do release more Lord Commanders they atleast bother to not make them all look the same. Also Gardus update pls
>>93189382>so they might want to avoid the an evil race with a vaguely Persian aesthetic
>>931890692 more editions, directly after chorfs. Trust the plan
>>93189443>autist thinks warlocks couldn't possibly wield a rifle
>>93189419Newfag is also a poorfag.
>>93189162That's because you're coked up on marvel and 40k, they're basically pariahs who have a helmet melded to their face, why the he'll would it be fancy and ornate?
>>93189395No, you really can’t.
>>93189612No, but I think that 1. Old versions of models should be compatible with newer versions' rules and I don't think that it's very fitting for my pistol-wielding warlocks to be sniping with them2. A warlock should be, you know, a wizard
>>93189629NTA but this is how these threads turn into bigger cesspools..
>>93189633deal with it
>>93189623I don't know what it's called, but you're doing a bad kind of argument where you use part of the problem as justification for the other part of the problem.If my premise is "I don't like the look of the helmets", then saying "The helmets look like this because they wrote fluff to explain why the helmets look like this" isn't going to sway my opinion.
>>93189599That model doesn't have a big beaky nose.
>>93189623>having cock shame Personally I would make my mask look really cool
>>93189612Well GW apparently now thinks that warlocks can't possibly wield a glaive anymore, so...
>>93189443Anon it sucks but if you got surprised from GW removing options from heroes you haven't been paying attention
The influencers speak.https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/28/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-veterans-react-to-the-new-edition/
>>93189747Well, I know and expect that sort of thing, but I've never had a hero unit entirely reinvented to the point where I feel that it's not even the same concept before. "Your wizards are no longer wizards" is a hell of a bigger change than "Your guy has a different gun now". Has that happened to any other hero models in AoS? Things ceasing to be (or becoming) wizards or priests all of a sudden?
>have slaanesh vanguard and several other kits like myrmidons, epitome and sigvald>wonder how many points I have and check Warscroll Builder(RIP)>Already at like 1600 pointsNo wonder people always mention how overcosted they are. desu I don't think that's a bad thing, just would be neat if they were also good for the cost
>>93189705they can, the new sculpt just doesn't model your retard with a glaive and count him as shooting with the rifle's profile as it it was magic lightning
>>93184843The Prince Maesa audiobook is a must listen honestly. Easily one of the best AoS novels ever and I suggest everyone listen to it.WHERE IS MY PRINCE MAESA MODEL GW?!?!?!
>>93189798You got Cado Ezechiar who is basically the same thing but a vampire.
>>93185519No, sorry anon. Arena of Shadow's the only one I've never been able to find either :(
>>93189794I almost conceded to you before I remembered that they made it so that the WE now exists solely to buff a unit that I don't own and have no interest in
>>93186327Looks good, anon. I'm going to paint my Realm-Lords in red as well when I get around to them :)
>>93189798You think you want this but you don't
>>93189765FUCK OFF WITH THESE FLUFFPIECES JAMES AND GIVE ME WARSCROLLS AND POINTS YOU FUCK!
>>93189837Prince Maesa is a Wood Aelf anon.
>>93189848Right
>>93189861
>>93189861>tourist doesn't understand the time gap between Fantasy and AoSmany such cases
>>93187187>lord of afflictions Why the fuck would they be cut? >>93187451> want the armies to follow their lore, not just bring the 5 best things 3 times.^This^So much this.
>>93189861>WHF>AoSpick one
I greatly prefer "severely autistic whining over the warlock engineer" hour to "spam five million images about black people" hour, can we go back please
>>93189888>he thinks Skaven are safe
>>93187922Wow, wrong in every way! Well done :)
>>93189837Prince Maesa+that dwarf and three randos he never interacted with in an $80 box set WHEN GW???Naturally he'll get a new novel to go with the box where he's now leader of the Prince Maesa Revenger Team working contracts for Allarielle.
>>93187451>>93189882Well, I don't mind the general idea of enforcing fluffy armies, but I fear that they're going to get too restrictive with it. Ideally, it should be "Skryre heroes can take Skryre units", but I fear it may end up like "Only the Galvaneer can take the WLC, only the Engineer can take the Ratling Warpblaster, only the Bombardier can take Acolytes, etc".
>>93189897In case it wasn't made blindingly obvious, I'm not sympathetic to your views, cretin.
>>93188316Every part of your post is fucking awesome anon. Based af.
>>93188472Should I care? Play a non-DUARDIN army you like the look of then, retard.
>>93188930>in a box there will always be marines,Good for 40K, now back to AoS.
>>93189869Chocolate elf ladies are a weakness of mine. Besides that, is the book any good?
>>93188472Enjoy.
>>93189215Except Stormcast always sold well and have cool/interesting lore. Fucking No Games, shut up.
>>93188468The units are looking ok so far. I'd be considering doubling up on prosecutors, reclusians, and annihilators. The standard building blocks of stormcast list this edition may well end up not including anything in the two boxes however depending on what dracoths, longstrikes, grandhammers, stormdrakes etc look like.
>>93189276Cunt away off back to your WFB thread.
>>93189467>I'm not doubting your hobby skills but I think the guy deserves some slacki wasnt saying they are bad, im just happy to see i can paint better than the stuff theyre showing off on the websitefeels good man
>>93188930Neither khorne or kruleboyz are elite armies. What you mean is they'll usually contain some 20 of some chaff unit which they can invent for anyone.
>>93189972It's alright. Secretly it's like 45% an IDK novel, but that's not really a bad thing.
>>93189831we already know he can buff multiple units, not just the jezzailsthe other units have the rules that detail how they can be buffed by him
>>93189467thunderstrike already looks less like space marines, that was the entire point of it retard.
>>93189972>is the book any good?NTA but I recall it being okay. It had some interactions between Lumineth and Idoneth that were interesting. But the tone is somewhat bleak, it's not a happy story and it doesn't give the reader much to laugh over.
>>93190081>entirely one color>even the trim is the same colorIt's amazing that they were willing to die on the hammers of sigmar hill for so long. It made their minis look worse
>>93190116It’s a decent paint job just not one we should’ve seen every single release of anything
That Celestial Vindicator paintjob is such an insane flex even compared to the other non metallic schemes there. Amazing blending. Never thought they could look that good.
>>93190073>we already know he can buff multiple units, not just the jezzailsThat applies to any Skryre hero, so there's no reason to take him specifically if you're not also taking jezzails.
>>93189793I don't know, well have to see what they do with them. With their allegiance abilities basically completely squatted the points for them need to be completely rebalanced from scratch. Based on early unit comparisons without summoning/pretenders/depravity, the warscrolls they've shown should be cheap af. Twinsouls are barely if at all better than liberators and blood warriors. Slickblades and Cavaliers/Spiteriders are roughly equal and should be much lower than blood knights and chaos knights. Given we haven't seen the real scroll. Fiends are like, I dunno wtf to do with fiends, they're barely a 100 point scroll considering the way 3e is pointed right now, legitimately I'm serious. Slaangors spearhead scroll is complete trash again like 70 points tier level trash.
>>93190190>That applies to any Skryre herowho are also, invariably, warlock engineers
>>93189899Doesn't look like any other ogre so...
>>93190246I don't understand the point you're trying to make or of what you're attempting to convince me.
>>93189250Literally just an old dude and his wife with a crossbow.
>>93190301His daughter...
>>93190366Lol sorry I don't even read most of the books anymore and just assumed. I got tired of reading a lot of the lore coming out in micro-FOMO fashion and getting a single print (if ever). I remember picking up my Nagash Omnibus in like 2016-17 for $24 out of Barnes and Noble. Fast forward to today and even the shittiest dog-eared copy is going for like $100 on Ebay because it will never be physically printed again.Alternatively I actually gave my Sigmar omnibus away years ago because it was just that bad lol...
Found the Lumineth Realm-Lords Spearhead for £70... I'm tempted.
>>93189916nta but that was pretty clearly satire, brainlet
Stormies in green is kinda nice
>>93189977I am a bit shocked how shit and how well designed this Box actually is at the same time.>Next to the Copters that currently noone plays in AoS no units that double with AoS>Good baseline for jumping from some AoS CoS Dwarves to full TOW>No fucking heroes included>No fucking more elite troops includedSo basically a shitty Box that works well when you come from AoS. I just hope it's cheaper then the other ones.
>>93190366
>>93190423It's not satire if he actually believes the thing he's joking about
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/28/warhammer-studio-interview-fine-tuning-the-nail-biting-finishes-of-spearhead/>This is the end of our behind the scenes interview series on the new edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar.Thank fuck
>>93190415as a full army or as a spearhead?
>>93190493Spearhead to start, but there's a handful of units I'd like to add to 'em in the future if I get it.
nda drops saturdayindexes start next weekone day for stormcast + skaven, then one day for each GApoints and hero/unit regiment combos are not includedthere is a single file with day 0 errata/faq, all the points/regiments for every army. that should go up the following week
>>93190415You will come to hate the Wardens and their spears, I assure you.
>>93190606>points and hero/unit regiment combos are not includedWhat's even the point then
>>93190655Lmfao I'm sure! There's never been a spear wielding unit that isn't a complete pain in the ass to work with/store.
>>93190661to fuel more speculation, also with all the indexes you can totally play a game of 4th using the 3rd edition points.It won't be accurate balance wise but it'll get you used to the differences in the new edition gameplay.I've played a few games of 4th myself using the stormcast and seraphon warscrolls we've been shown, was fun.
>>93190415I'm a MASSIVE fan of the good ol' "High Elf vs Dark Elf" thing so I'm going to be getting a Lumineth army at some point to go against the Umbraneth if/when they release.With that in mind, the question is whether or not the army is something you like enough to enjoy. Don't buy it because it's good, buy it because you like the models/lore/characters. Otherwise what's the point of playing?
>>93190663other spear models are lovely in comparison.
RULES ON MONDAY
>>93190716I've seen worse but they certainly don't look like they'll be fun to work with.
>>93190716Oh you definitly need a magnet storage solution for this
>>93190663>There's never been a spear wielding unit that isn't a complete pain in the ass to work with/store.Not true
>>93190753Those little fuckers have stabbed my hands so many times!
>>93190753Lies. My sleeve caught on those fuckers all the time back in the days of WFB.
I'm thinkning of dabbling what with the new boxes and such. What's less of a meme Skaven or Daughters of Khaine starting point of nothing in terms of models.
>>93190791What does "less of a meme" mean here?
>>93190791What does that even mean
>>93190791dok is an advanced army.
>>93190810>lawnmowers are advanced machinery
>>93190819>yeah bro just paint 50 bareheaded naked women as your first army
>>93190806>>93190808I'm not chasing wins, and I like the look of the two armies mentioned. Which of the two would you say is stronger as a tabletop faction?>>93190810Advanced as in mechanics? In sigmar?
>>93190819I wouldn't call them advanced but while their gameplan is simple, you do have to know the game pretty well to play them effectively.They are a good second or third army imo.
>>93190833>yeah bro just paint 50 bareheaded naked womenYes sign me up
>StD army is just slowly turning to GA Chaos palooza
>>93190839Up to 3rd DoK were historically strong whereas Skaven have been much more inconsistent. However, DoK had a pretty long mid period in 3rd.>Advanced as in mechanics? In sigmar?Oh OK I get where this is going.
>>93190856Honestly I love the chaos casino, I couldn't be happier. I'm just sad they took some of the tricksier stuff out of the army.
>>93190857That answer actually pretty much sums up what I was asking, DoK are the better bet to not get instantly tabled early. While Skaven would be better off waiting till the full release / more testing
>>93190882I would say going into a new edition it's probably the other way around. DoK are very fragile outside of Morathi.
>>93190839>Advanced as in mechanics? In sigmar?Troll detected. Fuck off.
>>93190856Anon you can't even ally armies together let alone run a GA army
>>93190882DoK cannot take a punch (with one exception), so if your positioning is bad you will lose hard.That being said, flying Morathi straight into the enemy lines and tanking their entire army while snake ladies move up behind her will get you far.
Does anybody have the last book of Dawnbringers?
>>93190897I know but I barely play the game and I think moving away from allies/coalition is stupid so it's mainly just for display. It's primarily StD but I have a guo with a blightking posse, some khorne mortals, tzeentch daemons and I'm adding the skaven half of skaventide
>>93190839>is stronger as a tabletop faction?Ask after we actually have their full rules. Right now DoK have ways to gain strike first and to hand out strike last with melusai that have access to fight twice in a turn which is going to be a nightmare. Skaven shoot well and stormfiends and rat ogres look really strong in melee.
>>93188485did they get rid of the dispossessed models? i thought they were still in the game
>>93190920I do but I won't share because of the racist image.
>>93190894Sorry, I promise I'm not a troll. I'm just retarded. I wasn't sure if they meant Mechanically. Also I'm extra retarded and wasn't sure if DE's had an Old World Counterpart (yet), I was also of the understanding that AoS was technically less rule intensive then WFB was.
>>93190893I like the new -1 hit on sister of slaughter with all the hit on 4s in the game now. They're effectively better than 4+ save, if bloodshield stays they'll be quite durable.
>>93190946They’re “supported” in CoS still. Duardin get a +1 to their save on a defense order. Aelves get +1 hit on a different order.
>>93190946They in the index but currently all the models on the website are "Sold Out" to start repackaging them to this >>93189977Whether or not nu-Corves are coming for the second war is up in the air
Holy shit can they please stop spamming this Spearhead crap.
>>93191002It's "the new thing" so these marketing swine will be posting about it nonstop for a year
>>93190958>Sorry, I promise I'm not a troll. I'm just retarded. Apology accepted. The DoK is a fairly complex faction to due to having fragile units that rely upon buffs from others (via buffs and so on). They can hit very hard, or die the instant someone looks at them. It's not exactly easy to play them well, but you'll get used to this sort of complexity quickly enough after a few games. Just remember, BUFF EVERYTHING!
>>93190967>They’re “supported” in CoS still. Duardin get a +1 to their save on a defense order. Aelves get +1 hit on a different order.so elves get one enhanced order, dwarfs get one enhanced order, and humans get one enhanced order. where is the evidence that this in any way indicates elves and dwarfs are on the way out? they have as much rules interaction as the humans as far as the army traits are concerned
I still don't understand the logic of quashing allies when it's objectively good for sales to let people dip into other armies
>>93191023>via buffs and so onI meant "via prayers and so on"
>>93191028Literally tourniefags fault
>>93191002The alternative is how Combat Patrol "the exciting new way to play" went.I'd rather have all the spam that goes with a genuine alternate play option over something that is forgotten after a week.
>>93190993>sold outno they're not. they're just sold out in the US because fucking everything is sold out in the US because they cant get their distribution problem fixed
>>93191035But why are they ceding to tourneyfags when they're a profit-driven, publicly traded company? Aren't they supposed to do anything that would potentially get them more profits?
>>93191028>let people dip into other armiesthat's what spearhead is for now.also allies were a real pain for competitive and usually traps for newbies. "I'm a new player and I'm gonna play a bunch of chaos warriors and chosen in my Khorne army!"
>>93189333I don't agree with any of their design decisions. The push fit models are a bad joke completely at odds with their ideas.
>>93191028Two reasons. First Its because GW higher ups are notoriously incompetent retards, just cracking the whip each year demanding more profits and the people below them scramble to deliver. And second its because MUH COMPETITIVE, MUH TOURNAMENT AGE OF SUGMAR type fags want everything sterilized for "balance" sake.They don't want people dipping into other armies THAT way, they want people dipping into other armies by whaling out for an entire starter forces worth that you CAN'T share with your other armies. BUY MORE, DON'T JUST BUY ONE OR TWO UNITS THATS NOT PROFITABLE ENOUGH FOR US!!
>>93191054Locking people into only having very specific boxes as options seems liek it would be objectively worse for sales than letting them buy whatever they want.
>>93191002Spearhead is the only game right now. No indexes, no warscrolls
>>93191070buy a spearhead and you are only a kit or two away from 1000pts
>>93191051Those cretins buy whatever is good regardless of what it is they're still making money
>>93191049They've been cycling back and forth in the UK as stock is recalled. It's going to happen, note the difference between sold out and temporarily unavailable newfag
>>93191101The point is that there are and will be people who aren't interested in the contents of the spearhead boxes who would have otherwise bought other kits, and now won't, because they don't have that option. Let's say that I play Maggotkin, and I wanted to buy a Chaos Gargant, a Daemon Prince, and a Verminlord Corruptor to coalition in, just because I think they look cool or fun to play. GW saying "you can't play those in your army now" means that I will not be buying those expensive kits, and since the Spearhead and Regiments of Renown boxes don't have the models I want, I won't be buying those either. Ergo, this is a loss of a sale for GW, and something to be avoided.
>>93191128they are literally available for sale right now. what the fuck are you talking about?
>>93191065>MUH COMPETITIVE, MUH TOURNAMENT AGE OF SUGMAR type fags want everything sterilized for "balance" sake.If you don't care about balance, and aren't playing in a tournament then just ask your opponent if you can use allies.
>>93184426How should I paint the new ratties, I'd like to avoid the boxart scheme
>>93191142they make more money off the very mass produced spearhead boxes than they do individual low production kits and the attempt is to sell a lot more spearheads than before.it may well fail but that's what they are going for
>>93191172>they make more money off the very mass produced spearhead boxes than they do individual low production kitsBut these don't need to be exclusive!
>>93191169The colorscheme of your favorite beverage
>>93190753Stepping on a grot is the stepping on a lego of Warhammer
>>93191148I told you, learn to read retard newfag. This has happened every time something has been squatted
>>93191169I'm going to do my albino. Cloth is going to be purple and black. Armour primarily bronze.
>>93191025I wouldn’t hold my breath on either race being removed from Cities anytime soon but I also wouldn’t expect new models either.
>>93191169Well you can't have mine>>93191186Seconding Dr Pepper rattos
>>93191032>>93191023That I can see, I found a copy of the tome for DoK so taking a deeper look now. That concept is relatively forward enough, the in-depth aspects of the buffs will be the fun part though. Thank you for the brief overview of em. Most of my understanding of the setting is coming from the now (was it ever actually the same) outdated Total War Warhammer.
>>93191028Because prime, and Ionus, and stormdrakes have to stay permanently overcosted. They couldn't put ward on nugle's scrolls. Belakor had to stay weak, etc.
>>93191269>belakor>weakwhat?
>>93191035you can still play open if you're a mouth breather who thinks basic game balance is "tourneyfag".
>>93191222It was not the same. I really strongly recommend waiting until AoS 4e actually hits.
>>93191276Yes, look at the new scroll. He was overpaying for his cheese ability with a weak body.
>>93190954Based
>>93191169If you can't make a simple decision like that yourself than you're never finishing that box
>>93191290>tourniefag upset that he's the reason the game gets worse every edition
>>93191290>you can still throw the baby out if you dislike the bathwater
>>93191342There's nothing wrong with getting ideas from others, anon.
>>93191342That's not really a valid extrapolation. Choice paralysis is not the same sort of affliction as executive dysfunction.
>>93191353whining about a game you don't play.
>>93191299Gotcha, I mean yeah, beyond "acquiring" a few battle tomes I'm not doing much yet. It's also why I'm debating Skaven. Since launch army
Looks like more cool knight helmets from victrix coming up
>>93191461I hope you're getting paid for these
>>93191468I think he's going to pay for this
>>93191461Always love it when they show 3d renders instead of the physical productBro trust me it'll look so good in person trust me bro
>>93191484They're generally fine but there's nothing interesting or unique here and no one asked about other bits
>>93191468no i just sub to their news letter, thought some people might be interested in the bits. i guess not>>93191481i might. could be fun to throw some rusted buckethelms on some FEC guys. victrix isnt as small as perry, its closer to the scale of the freeguild guys than most historicals, so it should be okay for basic ghouls or the morbheg riders.
>>93191461obvious shill is obvious
>>93191461>1¢ has been deposited into your account
>>93187011Lmao.Vince already laid out the future (unintentionally).You will only have two Regiments, and more likely than not one WILL be some SC warmaster faggot (who will unlock any choice).Your other hero will be whoever gives the most synergy. No auxiliary ever, a ton of 'cool power pieces' that nonetheless are never taken because they would cost too many drops (ie one) or an auxiliary. Armies will have a set 'warmaster general regiment' that's basically set in stone, the second regiment and it's one power pair is just the favor choice (will rarely be impactful), or, worst case, it's another auto include set.Look forward to everyone playing for a turn 2 double, which are stronger than ever.
>>93188316Gays not welcome
>>93189136I don't often say this (and never on aosg before).But.Nice chorfs. Good basing, like the metal schemes
JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING INDEX ALREADY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>93191484I will shill for 3rd partiesand I will do it FOR FREE!
>>93191659Not mine. I never quite got beyond some basic color tests with mine. Probably got them from the chorf forum or something.
>>93191758Meh, 3d renders always looks good, miniatures themselves don't.
>>93191758> rendersActual models printed by someone who isn't the company or GTFO.
>>93189765> let's pretend like some of these people (Adam from Forge the Narrative) are literally bought and paid for by GW
>>93191758Can you shill good ones at least
>>93191768>>93189136What are the Legends rules for Chorfs even like? I can't see 'em being great.
>>93191758i think if im getting 3rd party spiders im probably getting these ones. they've got more boingrot style armor and weapons, and the spiders are bit more chitonous like the arachnaroc. not a fan of the old spider riders tribal look, just like bonesplitterz i think the tribal stuff just kinda looks bad
>>93191878they're not really. from what i remember, their rifles have a chance to do mortal wounds, and their melee guys reflect mortal wounds on successful saves like the old gorefists. other than that it was basically just dwarf infantry lines with some artillery and monsters, and access to wizards. i do remember the cavalry led by shartor kind of fucking up my shit during 2nd edition, but i was also a new player at the time so it could have just been me eating a bad charge
>>93189667>I want my units to have fancy, tall, ornate hats>X units have fancy, tall, ornate hats, these chorfs do not because of XYZ>Um, actually thats a bad arguement
>>93190928Sounds like an ugly, unplayable mess for no reason
>>93192030Anon never said it didn't make sense. They just don't like it. We're allowed to not like things, remember?
>>93192030idk what you were going for here because this doesn't read well for your argument at all
>>93192030Look at it like this>thing is designed>fluff is written why they are that way>someone says they don't like the design>other guy defends it by citing the fluff that was written to justify the designYou see this shit all the time and it's always a shit argument.
Is there anything across the chaos armies that can fit the the mawkrusha on it's base
>>93191713Maybe when you stop using the cringe 40k term for it.
>>93192142archaon. maybe GUO or glottkin, glutos orscallion
>>93192142Biggest is a Glutos on a 170x105mm. Archaeon is a 160mm. Mawkrusha is 160mm.
>>93192142Anvil of apotheosis might have already made rules for something that big
>>93192174important to bring up, the mawkrusha doesnt really NEED its gigantic base. it can actually fit on the same base as a stonehorn without much hang over, the base on the mawkrusha is really kind of excessive, there is a lot of empty space on the mawkrushas baseso if you're trying to use a mawkrusha model for a conversion, you have a little wiggle room
>>93192228Good addition. Never seen a Mawkrusha outside of the box, so I didn’t want to assume just how much of the base was empty. Also model overhang can be a thing.
Are marked dragon ogors a thing in the fluff
>>93192274I don't think I've ever heard of any existing.
Think I'm good to call the FEC project done, I should probably get back to getting my Skaven done so Skaventide can slot right in.
>>93192074Says who
>>93192274Nope. They hate the deal they made with the gods so it wouldn't make sense anyway.
>>93192274No. Dragon Ogres made a race wide deal with the Gods for their souls, the Gods don't bother to grant marks if they already own you.
>>93192274>Dragon OgorsCurious if we will see them one day in Ogors or Chorfs
alarm set money securedskaventide preorder moment
>>93192320Looking good anon, ghoul chads rise up
>>93192479No ones gonna applaud you for consooming bro.
>>93192479I CLAPPED!ANON IS READY TO CONSOOOM AND I CLAPPED!!!!
Would anyone happen to have access to any of the Dawnbringers short stories? I love the idea of the Dawnbringer crusades and want to read more about 'em.Looking for:HarrowhandThe Road to HelsmarchFalse DawnTIA for any help
Are the chaos realms still like alternate realities like they are in 40k?I had an idea for an annihilation/stalker "the zone" style army but I want to make sure chaos still works that way in aos
>>93192617The Realm of Chaos is basically an alternate reality of infinite, manifested madness and insanity. The Chaos Gods own pieces of this land and each moulds it to his/her tastes. Sometimes the Realm of Chaos bleeds into the Mortal Realms, for example the Maggotkin often bring the Garden of Nurgle 'into' the Mortal Realms when they corrupt the lands.
>>93192642>>93192660Wrong anon lol
>>93192642You'd have an answer to your question if you actually... you know, read the lore of the game you're playing?
>>93192660Okay that's exactly what I wanted to know. I was going to do a zone of nurgles garden opening up over a castle and mutating the castle, landscape, and it's inhabitants like the lighthouse from annihilation, but I wanted to make sure that kind of thing checked out
>>93192675Yeah it works. Read Blight War to learn more. Horticulous Slimux was working to draw the Garden of Nurgle into the Mortal Realms but was (only just) stopped by Blacktalon.
>>93192675Here's Blightwar if ya want more infohttps://files.catbox.moe/0gq1up.pdf
>>93192589>>93192611:( this is my first AoS set!
>>93192589Man eavy metal really bogged his face
>>93192720Im sorry, youre allowed to be excited for things, obviously.
How many steelhelms is too many ya think? I like the models, but I'm not paintfag who only consooms to paint.
>>93192674>Warhammer fans>reading non-Memehammer material
>>93192479based, give no regard to poorfags.
>>93192763I can't really see using more 30. They might just get replaced entirely by dwarfs with orders change.
>>93192479Same man, I'm genuinely excited. Gonna be the first set I'll be sharing with a friend and we both actually care about the armies.
>>93192479I'm waiting to try the free rules before I buy anything, due to being leery of 'em, but I hope you enjoy purchase anon.
What base size does Abraxia come with?
>>93192617
>>93192870>Abraxia100mm base.Literally took a five second search on Google you inbred twat.
>>93191878IIRC they were basically a late 1E/very early 2E army in terms of design, so utterly outdated at this point.
>>93192877Thank you anon! May the feet you lick and/or sniff always be thrillingly sweaty.
>>93192880>getting this mad but still answering
>>93192617False Dawn
>>93192880The only google results are redditors speculating before it was ever confirmed inbred twat
>>93192935No they're not, inbred tard.
>>93192910Love you anon!<3
>Preorders start tonight>phone decides it wants to diewhat uncannily shit ass timing
>>93192962Lol you're so mad
>>93193119>he doesn't have his lgs reserve a box for himNgmi. Waking up tomorrow at 10am without a care in the world
>>93193119>>93192479>>93192837I've already put in my preorder via best local store. At a discount too. 174$.Selling the rats for 80$ to another dude. High life for me.
>>93193126NTA but lolYou know you were just fucking owned and have nothing, you've got no comeback at all.
>>93193119>not reserving a box at your LGSIt's so easy and you get a discount if your LGS isn't shit
>>93193162NTA but I don't have an LGS I'd want to support. Ordering through Element Games of Wayland Games is so much easier.
>>93193160>samefagging this hardKek this is pathetic, admit defeat and move on
>>93192617Tbh I don't care if anyone has Harrowhand since I dislike the Blacktalons (Mary Sue bitches) but I'll take it if anyone happens to have it.
I also reserved my box at my LGS but I dont think skaventide boxes will be sold out.I dont mind being wrong about that. Would be a great sign that there is big interest in 4e.
>>93193194would just mean GW under-produced. I need those fuckers to do a discount again.
>>93193194it just reflects their production efforts. Dominion could've sold incredibly well but below what they produced
post otherwise perfect models with 1 glaring flaw. i'll start with the obvious. too much base
>>93193211According to GW's shareholder reports, Dominion DID sill incredibly well.
>>93193292The reason is a bannable offense.
>>93192836Yeah, but why would I run anything that isn't a human? Fuck the lesser races (literally)
>>93193292Basing the model is a challenge of itself that might leave you spending triple the time it took to paint the model
>Kurnothi are now blessed humans They really wanted to remove any possibility of Wanderers existing huh
>>93193315Trim on the monster looks like he's wearing glasses
>>93193315Sir, this site is not for 12 year olds. Please come back in 6 years.
>>93193292Too much base is like too much cock, it's not possible.
>>93193352That's been a thing for a while, but they're used more as canon fodder mostly while the elf/sylvaneth Kurnothi get treated better.
>>93193315Horned helmets are dope.Putting horns on a head itself is hard to make look good. Unless you're going for a forsaken vibe
>>93193407Based.
>>93193415She has a helmet option
>>93192935NTA because he’a a faggot but the current AoS app has base sizes for everything on it.
>>93193315There's more than a few things wrong with this model. The monster isn't great: it just feels like an alt take on the Karkadrak whereas a character meant to be significant should have something better and more imaginatively posed. It's better than the random Stormcast chimeric monsters but not by much. The Karkadrak also just looks better than this thing in its dimensions, even though it's smaller: it's more squat and powerful-looking and it has this brutal wide head and jaw that look combative.The thanatorg (lol) has this crouching pose and long, beaklike mouth that make it look more like a scavenging beast than a ridden monster. I do like the pose of hte one claw grasping the stone and the curve of the tail, which nicely complements the monster's silhouette face on: you notice it just a touch after you take in the rest of the model, which is probably how the beast also uses it to strike at enemies.Abraxia herself is just kind of a generic chaos lord apart from being a negro woman: I don't mind that because I like generic chaos armored lord details, the shield and the spear are a bit interesting, but nothing really stands out as it should for a centrepiece character.
>>93193429>he’a a faggotI may enjoy the odd dick, but I was still correct. It took 5 seconds to answer his question with Google.
>>93193427Wish she had a better face option too
>>93193369You'll come around to the same opinion in 10 years or so when your done being a nieve 20 something.Also spearhead sounds like a shit game mode. Come back mechanics like its a shitty moba clone. Who wants to play on a tiny ass board with no terrain where you buff your opponent when you do well? 4th edition seems fine if bland, drawing out this hype for what feels like eternity has killed any enthusiasm i had though.
>>93193352Kurnothi is an umbrella term referring to any and all Kurnothfags. Trees, bugs, aelves, humans, or whatever.
>>93193315>>93193432This dude used some backgrounds and photo magic to change my opinion on this model.It really looks like it is cut from a Frazetta art piece.
>>93193499wait a minute...
>>93193499I've never loved the model but I've never disliked it honestly. I doubt I'll get her, but she's not the worst Chaos model. Not even close.
>>93193516Agreed, Varanguard are worse.
>>93193518I was thinking Darkoath, actually.
>>93193486>Also spearhead sounds like a shit game mode.I gotta disagree. If it lets me play Deepkin without needing to buy an entire army, I'll love it. >Who wants to play on a tiny ass board with no terrain where you buff your opponent when you do well?Only retards don't use terrain.
>>93193536Somehow they're all worse than the warband too. The idea for a fantastic looking army was there but it was just sabotaged, by quotes from higher up, bad designers, bad concept artists etc. I don't know why but I do know it was entirely preventable. Conan army is an easy fucking sell and they fumbled it.
>>93193564Even the original warband wasn't great imo but it was better than what we got later for sure.
>>93193536>>93193564Eh the Darkoath heroes look good and some of these ones are fine. The strangely elongated female bodies in the Warcry band and the diversity minis in the regular one (like the fat woman standard bearer) are the worst options IMO.
I forgot that their queuing system is set up so that you're made to wait in a queue before they place you in a queue.
AoS aesthetics peaked in 1e
>>93193595*2eWhen the Sacrosanct Chamber came out and every one of them looked fucking amazing.
>>93193429Not abraxia
>>93193595This dude just fucking owns. The grin is a huge part of it.
>>93193625This reminds me, WHY did they kill off the coolest Stormcast minis? Think we'll get Thunderstruck versions at some point?
>>93193595Why precisely does this guy work whilst the later Darkoath stuff doesn'tI do believe that he looks better but I can't articulate quite why
>>93193625Pretty sure Nighthaunt won that aesthetic showdown
>>93193625I like the look of them but they were less fun to assemble than their 1e counterparts.
>>93193595I have got to buy that fucking Silver Tower box my LGS somehow still has.
>>93193642Dems fighting words boi!>>93193648I never find assembling or painting models fun so I'll take your word on that lol
>>93193625sacrosancts didn't fix the design flaws of fatcasts, only thunderstrike did
>>93193639LOOK AT THE MUSCULARITYhttps://youtu.be/eE3BFAXAXTw?feature=shared&t=285
>>93193625mark harrison designed some the best models period
>>93193629Reference > Expansions > Dawnbringers: Book 6 - The Hounds of Chaos > Base Size
Between, Ogres, Free guild, Slaneesh, and Daughters, which is gonna have more fun with shooting options in AoS? Originally I was only considering Ogres and freeguilds because I had fun with their equivalents in TW:WH3 and glad they had gun options still, but the other two caught my eye a little. Overlords look way too goofy.I only have 40k tt experience along with the total war mention. Only given consiration because friends at LGS are getting into it and TOW releases slowed to a crawl.
>>93193639Literally rippling with musclesIncredible barbarian couture aestheticsShit-eating grin
>>93193669100% disagree with that, anon. The Sacrosanct Chamber is peak Stormcast design imo.>>93193673I love this man, so fucking much.
>>93193686Shooting is looking worse in 4e in general, so hold off until we see the rules.I don't know anything about shooty ogres but historically Slaanesh was just about spamming maximum archers and DoK were about getting one unit of bow snakes buffed up to shoot twice.
>>93193686>TW:WH3Secondary. But to answer your question. CoS will outdo the others quite a bit I imagine. But if you want THE shooting faction, play Kharadron Overlords or Lumineth Realm-Lords
>>93193673>also reviews big titty anime statues
>>93193686I think Cities are the clear option out of those.Gunlines, artillery, tanks, snipers and heroes with gun options. And thats only the mainline human stuff.Then you can add heavy armor dwarf flamethrower infantry, darkelf crossbow men and chariots with big harpoons.
>>93193711Lumineth in 4e will hopefully succeed on the combined arms shit they're meant to be rather than just spamming Sentinels.
>>93193686The answer is wait a couple weeks for indices. During which you can save your money up to buy whatever you want.As far as shooting goes, freeguild is traditionally the shootiest of those options by design, but slaanesh and ogres are also very shooty due to their best units being ranged, can't speak for daughters.Though with indices coming out, I wouldn't be shocked if something goofy like KB becoming the best shooty army in the game happened.
>>93193731A man can hope. I'd like to see them more interesting builds instead of fighting the same list a billion times.
>>93193731You mean Alexandrian phalanx supported by archers and cav right?
>>93193698>>93193698>>93193711>>93193723>>93193733Looks like waiting is worth it to see what changes come out. Thank you for clarifying what each's histories were and considerations for the future, including other factions. Might go ahead and get Skaventide tide and split with friend as an introduction at least. Wish the sigmarines weren't in the box.
>>93193772>sigmarinesAh, a TW:W Secondary who still uses that meme. Yes this is the sort of new blood our hobby needs. :l
>>93193686ogres are a combination of shooting and charging. even their shooting units kind of want to be in melee charging, so its a very aggressive playstyle (barring any major 4e changes). doesnt have a great analogue in 40k. probably the closest comparison would be imagine a tyranid army made of tyranid warriors with mixed melee and shooting loadout, backed up by haruspex and exocrenescities is more of a static castle, a tight shieldwall of fusiliers support by cannons, marksmen, and captains that often moves very little and is bubble wrapped by troops. closest analog would probably be like a tau gun castle or imperial guard artillery battery in slaanesh shooting is a bit of a gimmick. they only have one unit that really shoots at all, a basic unit of archers, and its only really a viable strategy for them at all because everything else of theirs was so bad. its kind of a mediocre shooting unit as far as shooting goes and they dont have good rules to support them. daughters are in a similar boat but their shooting was actually good, and made obscene by one broken interaction which seems to be dead. so dont be fooled, daughters are a 90% melee armyif you dont love boats, dont play overlords. thats an army you pick for the aesthetic. their gameplay is janky, hard to play, and a lot of people dont like playing against them either. if you're just looking for any shooting army, tzeentch and kruleboyz also do a considerable amount of shooting. kruleboyz are the dark eldar style poison shooters of the game. tzeentch is more like a short range machine gun, glass cannon units that pack high volume of fire supported by offensive thousand sons style spellslinging and eldar style cheat dice
>>93193719>also sneaking terrain review into the anime fig review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfmU0Yq7pkII wish bard did more content
>>93193686>TW:WH3>40k>>93193772>sigmarinesNeck yourself.
Oh boy I sure wish them heckin Sigmarines weren't in the starter box, am I right fellow gamers!
>>93193799he does a lot of streaming on twitch I believe but obviously it's different from the actual videos we love
I don't know if there are any new ones in there.
>>93193796Didn't know dok and Slaanesh were less shooty than expected. Will give that special consideration.
>>93193865fucking lol
>>93193833>>93193849Just shut up. You are the other side of that same stale coin.>>93193772Happy to have you my dude.
I don't see a helmet on there :/
>>93193315Honestly, Abraxia herself is sculpted fine. I get that people hate her for the lulz and that GW's "strong colored women representation" gets more and more ridiculous, but the Sculpt itself is fine. If this was just an unnamed Varanguard-Hero-Kit and happened to be painted in another color, people wouldn't mind the riders sculpt at all.What is really off is the design of the mount. It looks like a Kruleboys-Mount with 40k CSM Armor Bits slapped on top. Why the hell would you even put armor on top of a mount instead of protecting it's vunerable parts?Also, why do all new heroes need to be named ones? Like, please, let me just fucking play my-dudes and stop wasting release slots on the 6th named hero this week.
>>93193686Unless you hate elves, look into idoneth deepkin. >Has mechanics to control who the opponent can target>easily stacks rolls to hit for range, making unleash hell a great counter against charges>Almost all ranged hits/wounds on 3+>cheap, fast and spammable battleline with 20 attacks per unit with -1 rend>Allopexes with long movement, longer weapon range and also good in combat
>>93193923Eh. Any true gamer has a fuckton of leftover heads/helmets so just use one of them if it bothers you.
>>93193639He's not a fat racially ambiguous woman.
>>93193927>my-dudesCringe.>If this was just an unnamed Varanguard-Hero-Kit and happened to be painted in another color, people wouldn't mind the riders sculpt at all.I do agree with this, however. If she were white, people wouldn't be complaining imo.
>>93193923you vill use the bald woman>>93193930Useful idiot
>>93193625I just recall the hype when SoulWars dropped. Shame GW stoped caring with 3rd.
>>93193923Quite dissapointed with him honestly.The flaming sword feels too much, the blindfold is just dumb and he doesn't look much like a priest at all. Bring back the old model GW, it was better.
>>93193952Soulwars was kino, it's a shame the box was so fucked with the unit sizes and ridiculous balancing
oh the new knight-questor shares a sprue with the reclusians
>>93193970the big headsman guy is on there too
>>93193966>>93193952Soul Wars design was peak AoS imo. I love everything in the box.To be honest, I think AoS peaked in 2nd in general. Broken Realms was fantastic in terms of writing and lore advancements, some of the best looking models came out then, some of the best novels etc.
>>93193978Pic related was a great set
>>93193978>best stormcast>squatted without replacementsGlad I got what I have but it's still only a fraction of the sacrosanct rangeI also really like vanguard hunters and got pic rel back in the day(amazing value btw) but there's no way I'm buying those kits at online only prices separately even knowing squatting probably looms over them too
>>93193686Maybe Check Lumineth as well.
>>93194003This guy is hilarious in Broken Realms, he just loves setting fire to things and is loosed on the city by Be'lakor to cause Chaos like an attack dog with a flamethrower lol
>>93192142Soul Grinder will have space left I belive.
>>93193978> I think AoS peaked in 2nd in general.The build up with Malign Portents, the new gothic atmosphere, Nighthaunt. It really did.
>>93194011The vanguard were a weird addition to Stormcast, I love them but they're very much the odd one out, even to this day
>>93194011Overall current purges of model ranges are annoying as fuck. It became way too frequent that people buy models and are told 2 weeks later that they won't be able to use them anymore. I get that GW needs to remove some models from time to time due to logistics but we had way too much mess around it in the recent years. They should have communicated what they are going to do with model ranges way ahead of time, so it is at least nice that they told us BoC are leaving instead of hyping them up. But the 2 Waves of CoS squatting, current SCE purge that still leaves me riddles with how many kits I am supposed to trash or use for dioramas, the whole FW fuckup...I am really getting tired of this fucking hobby.
>>93194051>The build up with Malign PortentsI loved all that! The Soul Wars, the Siege of the Eightpoints by the Bonereapers, the attack on Lethis that led to Lady Olynder and the Celestant-Prime fighting, all the shit that happened in the Broken Realms Saga, it was all fantastic imo and AoS will likely never reach those heights again, which makes me quite sad :(
>>93193948he's right you're a fucking hobbylet.
>>93193966Soulwars was garbage, its even more garbage now that half of it is squatted. What a shit take.
>>93194282>Soulwars was garbage, its even more garbage now that half of it is squatted. What a shit take.What a shit take.
>>93194282American spotted
>>93194290What was your favorite part? The low quality models with half the detail of the real sculpts? The unplayable unit sizes? The literally unfinished models? The filler units that still have the worst warscrolls in the game 6 years later? The entire range getting squatted and fucking over everyone who bought it?
RIP Bricky
>>93194310>What was your favorite part? The lore.The badass models.The fact that me and my brother has an insane amount of fun with the set.The lore, again because it was so cool.I think that should make it clear enough for even a retard like yourself to understand <3
>>93194310>The literally unfinished models?So we're making shit up now, ok.
>>93194310The story, new Stormcast lore that fleshened them out and made them much more interesting, the Nighthaunt in its entirety, They had some fucked units sizes and 1 scuffed SCE model, that's their only flaw. Any other take is retarded.
So when are those nee grave guard models getting shown off.
>>93194310>The entire range getting squatted and fucking over everyone who bought it?LMFAOInbred tit still plays the newest shite GW produces. I've never moved on from 2nd and am still loving my Lightning Angel Battlemages.
>>93189815RIP, damn it all. Welp, that sucks to here for you, but thank you for telling me. I'll just try looking harder around somewhere, its gotta show up somewhere.
>>93194338>So we're making shit up now>>93194318>>93194341>that's their only flawThey're covered in gaps even if you clip the pegs, the stormcast being split right up the middle of the pauldrons is especially bad. They're low detail compared to the individual kits. The sequitors and evocators are laughable compared to the real kits in posing and options. The ballistas are way worse than their etb counterpart as the castigators. Its obvious everything in it was a rush job.
>>93194393>>So we're making shit up now>>93194318You'd never really notice that on the tabletop desu anon, crying about it is dumb.>They're covered in gaps even if you clip the pegs, the stormcast being split right up the middle of the pauldrons is especially bad. They're low detail compared to the individual kits. The sequitors and evocators are laughable compared to the real kits in posing and options. The ballistas are way worse than their etb counterpart as the castigators. Its obvious everything in it was a rush job.I've played them for years and never had an issue with detail or assembly and they look fine. Stop being a whiny bitch and let people enjoy themselves.Who am I kidding, inbred retards like yourself can't stand the thought of someone having fun. Maybe touch grass? Or even just breathe some fresh air?
>>93194407this is not defense of my legitimate criticisms go have fun with boyfriends cock fag.
>>93185590Decided to go with both Ogres and Idoneth.
Has anyone actually converted this into a chaos manticore yet I remember seeing people saying that everywhere when she was announced and I have yet to see one
>>93195375Probably too hard given the Asqhy symbols need to be scraped off and that chair is fused with the manticore's back.
>>93195375i think more people are put off by how much of a pain in the ass the wings make that thing to transport. the wings add like a full 2 additional bases to the width of the damn thing
ALL ABOARD>>93195527>>93195527>>93195527TOOT TOOT
>>93193927Gee whiz people are tired of forced niggerification and hamfisting negroids into everything? What a fucking shocker.
>>93188253>Cabal coming to AoS
