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>when you misprint Nadu so it counts for every creature twice
>>93239514Delete this and remake with Suncleanser as the OP called Cheater Edition.
Free him.
QT: Let her be free
>a whole set dedicated to furries
>TQTalrand, my King
>>93239534alas i muts follow the rule of not attributing to malice what could just as easily be stupidity>>93239553its not furry, because there is no anthroshit
>>93239569have you seen the jace? Have you seen the card in OP?
Looking for some feedback, please, on some midrange legacy listsPunishing Fire Jund - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/f7J20n8Ag0C-MyGnQ2WqzgBUG - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/F_eUPgwUdU61C3weQsD_3A
>tq
>>93239592if you're playing greens sun zenith in legacy you play collector ouphe mainboard, not doing so is essentially saying you don't ever want to win game 1 vs combo ever
>>93239553
>>93239514>TQ
>>93239636damn, grief kinda thicc no cap
UPDATESRuned Halo can't stop tokens, making Skyclave Apparition awkward. I swapped them for Seal From Existence for now.The cheap beaters we added make control a breeze. Usher of the Fallen spewing armies from turn 1 is primo. Fleeting Spirit dodging all removal means we never lose tempo once it's out. The spectacular spectral beatsticks make both Dimir and Azorius Control eat dirt.BAD MATCHES>Waste NotSheoldred. Pacifisms and Runed Halo bounce off her. Halo can hit Thoughtseize and Go Blank and such, but otherwise it falters in this matchup.The solution seems to be dropping our Pacifism-type removal for more threats. Overload their removal while securing tempo, before their engines stabilize. Which means, we can bring in hatebears from our sideboard that we have for other decks and not have to worry about tuning the SB to specifically hate Waste Not. Nice.>Niv to LightIt's a great combination of slightly more efficient threats and removal than us. Our relative lack of card advantage bites too, though we can overwhelm them with Voltron'd Phyrexian Vindicators and such.Very fun games, quite even, but Niv absolutely has the edge. The difference seems to be that we're faster, while they secure the late game. I'll consider options for this matchup, but it feels like this is just a deck we will always struggles against. It's okay to have bad matchups.>Nykthos Ramp?Phyrexian Vindicators with Katilda/Heliod Lifelink can hold off their entire army. Pacifisms help with that too, but fail to stunt their Devotion.If they ramp out clean, it's tough, but their lack of any removal for Vindicator puts them in the same sinking ship as Phoenix sometimes. Fun games, but not sure if we're better or worse yet. Trample from Ulvenwald Oddity coupled with giant Hydras seems to be their major wincon. Put Runed Halo on Hydra.I want to add Fields to clear Hydras. Not being able to is a downside of Vindicator's quad pips.
APOLOGIZETQ?SHEOLDRED OF COURSE
>>93239514>Favorite 4 mana creature?It solos 80% of the Pioneer meta.
>>93239669too bad the art is ugly as fuark
>>93239674Just take out the dumbass cricket bat and it'd be fine.
>>93239514>TQmy queen... my goddess...
>>93239684nah i cant stand the 3d look eitherit should look like art not a render
>>93239719hazoret the pervert...
>>93239722Fair enough. MTG has cultivated a truly loathsome art style over recent years.
>>93239514>TQToo fair for this bullshit world... But how knows...
>>93239738some companies go through cycles of good/bad artleague of legends did it too, that had a period where all their art was hyperrealistic almost 3d looking and then went to good, art looking art, then back to the ugly shitmtg im sure cycles through their commissioned artists similarly
>>93239609>>93239669Red, Blue and, god forbid me, Green versions fucking when?
>>93239767MH4 coming in 2026
>>93239767>whenever [greenmcnigga] takes damage, prevent that damge and add that much G. you dont lose this mana as steps and phases end this turn
>>93239612I'm not sure if the edit history shows for you, but I actually just took that out to try and squeeze in other stuff. It's my preference to mainboard it so I'll put it back in. I should also mention this is just for paper play at my LGS which is usually light on combo, with the main ones being Painter, Doomsday and occasionally Cephalid Breakfast or classic Reanimator
>>93239767>>93239774U would obviously be draw that many cards.
>>93239782i mean, we DO have a UUUU creature but it doesnt fit the 'do thing when damage' cycle
>>93239782? it would obviously be bounce that many permanents
>>93239767>RRRR, 5/5>first strike, haste and impulse draw equal to damage taken
>>93239782>>93239815???????It would obviously be target opponent mills that many cards.
>>93239767The red one exists, its trapped in arena
whats he up to
>>93239822llmfao what the fuck
>>93239767The fuck is this the only GGGG card in existence?
>>93239845My wife's son's hand grabbing mine.
>>93239845sovl
>>93239840>Make this card>Also make Acererak, the Demilich described as a skull with gemstone teeth and eyes.>Acererak looks nothing like described, but the card that isn't named Acererak does.
>RRRRHaste, impulse draw.>UUUUHexproof, mill>GGGGTrample, distribute +1/+1 counters
>>93239867Wow dude thanks for naming a bunch of the most derivative shit associated with a bunch of colours.
>>93239858Acerack has only been just a skull in Tomb of Horrors. There was a whole adventure featuring him in return to tomb of horrors, plus 3.5 plus 4e plus 5e.
>>93239867Anon...the red ones already here >>93239822 . Dont you love online only cards and effects???
>UUUU>millthey could make it a common and it would still not see any pauper play
>>93239514I miss him bros...
>>93239867>>UUUU>Hexproof, millKek
>>93239886He, too, is immune to Phoenix's removal.Perhaps I shall rig up a mono blue devotion deck for Pioneer, too, now that Powerful White Cards is through its initial bubbling.
>>93239534achstually, we didn't read the cardt. Rosewater, Mark.
>>93239537It should be "RIGGED" with Javier and Simon having sweaty gay sex on camera.
>>93239840So why doesn't this thing see play?
>>93240003the spells arent free
>>93239514ENTERS
>>93239886Master of babes is still the funniest edit I've seen
>>93239534How can multinational multimilionaire company be this stupid?
At the unrequested behest of one random fuck mentioning Master of Waves, Mono Blue Devotion in Pioneer is underway.Our options are limited by forcing high pip counts, obviously. However, apparently mono-blue devotion has some HEAVY hitters in Pioneer. These things are no joke, easily scaling up to 5+ power in no time at all while also thickening Master of Waves' doom dumps.I don't think the deck will be top tier viable, but it seems like a shell is at least simmering. Budget casual list, perhaps?
>>93240072ugly master of waves art
>>93240079We tend to preface inferior versions of existing things with "nu-" in here, friend.
>>93240079True. I'll use the other one if the list comes together.
>>93239822Worst thing about this is that it could have worked just fine with normal impulse draw
For removal, we have a few modestly sub-optimal options that enable Devotion.Taplock auras are noteworthy, but I think the real options will be the flashing humilities ala Eaten by Pirhanas. They solve a lot of problems, at instant speed too. I'll ponder other options too.
>>93240117the fuck piranhas has good art, but mmg told me the numtg art is all whack
>>93240140>but mmg told me the numtg art is all whackIt is, in fact, mostly whack.
>TQI don't even know what kind of deck this guy can go in but I have loved him for a while now
>>93239684Yeah this was Not the place for a Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference
It's time.Let it free
>>93239534Wait did they actually mean for it to be "Whenever a creature you control becomes the target... This ability only triggers twice each turn" and fucked up?
Alright then!Updated. As usual, sideboard trails far behind the maindeck in brew quality. It'll settle eventually.>Planar Disruption vs Cooped UpThis was a tough choice. Disruption's versatility in disabling Walkers is not to be scoffed at. HOWEVER, noting our weakness to Sheo and similar creatures, I feel like only hitting activated abilities isn't quite enough.Cooped Up, while less type-versatile, has the option to simply get rid of something, while also pumping devotion/Enchantment count. Weighing the two pieces, and after getting a wide shotgun of tests across the metagame, I feel like Cooped Up's exile will solve more problems than Distortion's versatility.All things considered, an updated list. i brought in 2x Fields in exchange for the Cavern of Souls. We really have to manage our pips, but manlands proved to be a wincon against us in many matches. Geier Reach Sanitarium was a huge way that Waste Not was able to kick through our Runed Halos. And our beaters are now just efficient enough that sneaking a few Spirits through countermagic doesn't feel too impactful.Wala! New version. The brew continues.
He won.
Cooped Up also helps with the Green Devotion problem. We can now actually get rid of the devotion itself, if we need to.Few problems that disabling activated abilities via Planar Distortion solves, can't also be solved by simply deleting the creature from existence. I feel like this is a subtle but very significant upgrade that makes the deck far more oppressive in a way that's difficult to sense. Something that only comes through testing.
tried to watch the goldfish nadu vs hogaak videoi cant fucking stand the way they play slow as shit and overexplain every card and have to tell us every effect theyre doingjesus christ
>>93240336a 40 sceond turn took 3 minutes because the onions guzzlers have to giggle and explain and play at a snails pace
>>93240336>"You like Magic content enough to watch this obscure video about old metagames?">"Let's treat you like a child."Yup. It's shit.
>>93240349>im going to play a stitchers supplier, this card mills three when it enters AND when it dies, and im going to trigger stitchers supplier and mill 1...2...3... okay this is a vengevine it comes back from the grave when i cast my second creature for the turn, umm im going to trigger bloodghast landfall, this doesnt count as casting a creature for vengevinejesus CHRIST the teletubbies tier fucking handholding
>>93240117Metamorphic Alteration can come in clutch
i miss him....i know hes too strong for modern, but i just love playing himits such a solid fucking playstylei hate hes banished to legacy
>>93240427He's not even too strong for modern at this point. He have been powercrept a long way since then.
>>93240437no he definitely is, im literally watching him buttrape nadu as we speakstill love im though....
>such a solid fucking playstyle
>>93240446what the fuck does this even mean in this contexti just like how perfectly insular and mechanical his deck iseverything just werks together perfectly
>>93240446Not my fault you only played against paper.
>>93240475paper off meta since forever
I'm working on this niche Rock homebrew strat where during the opening "Rock! Paper! Scissors!" Instead of "Shoot!" I go AWOOOOGA AHHHHH to throw off my opponents and gain an incremental advantage in the mental gamestate
>>93240443oh POH nent
how am I supposed to brew anything when boseiju exists?
>>93240559they literally only printed boseiju to make the color white useless as some weird cuck fetish
>>93239845Unreasonably based
Memedern really rots your brain with the powerlevel dose, is like some kind of cocaine where you know the substance is bad, you know it only harms but you feel such a rush and such a sensation that after that you are unable to recognise a healthy or at least not toxic gameplay/design.
More brews are afoot.Narset/Spirit of the Labyrinth + Geier Reach Sanitarium activation on opponent's upkeep locks them out of cards in Pioneer. Interdasting...Something can be done with this. I just know it.
Orzhov or Dimir waste not, perhaps?Seems like a fine starting shell for the lock.
We have more options.Prismari Command becomes a discard spell with Narset.Reckless Scholar works similarly to Geier Reach...
Not sure we quite have enough pieces in the format yet, but this is one to watch out for. Seems quite nasty, and only a few extra pieces away from being a menace. I shall keep pondering...
UB: Kamen Rider
OH MY FUCKING GOD.New brew, bros. It's real. Jeskai handlock.
Alright, this is a real "Inflict suffering" kind of brew.What else can we bring to the party?
>>93240795Reprieve, High NoonNot sold on Blue. I like this >>93240750
>>93240807>Not sold on BlueNarset is the only other option for Labyrinth effect. Blue is unfortunately, probably needed for the consistency.High Noon is not bad though.
>Oblwbro blunders into the format knowing nothing about it.>Just starts shitting out insane schizo brews on the regular.Pioneerbros... how do we cope?
>>93240631you can do this with narset tooand run days undoing to say shuffle ur shit draw 1
>>93240838I don't have to Cope in fact i'm happy someone is willing to brew in Pioneer, where still is possible and have success, yesterday Monowhite Halo for example, was a fucking insane experiment but in the good way. More people should be like him.
>>93240855>you can do this with narset tooAlready in.>and run days undoing to say shuffle ur shit draw 1Sketchy because it also hits us and is a nonbo with Narset but may be worth as a 1 or 2 of backup combo. I'll add it to Considering.
>>93240903sir narset days is literally a known control archetype/combo idk what ur gettin at here
>>93240913>idk what ur gettin at hereLet me spell it out for you:I take the shitty comboremove the shitand make something good instead.
>>93239858The dnd set was based on dnd 5e. In 5e Acererak is the boss of the adventure "Tomb of Annihilation" and he looks just like the magic card.Sadly wotc is in a design and development hell. They contracted so many untalented people that it is almost impossible for them to follow old design/stories/worldbuilding.
>>93240313He actually is dating a really hot blonde too. He won in life.>>93240331lol you are really trying to play pacifism effects Play that brother's war 1 mana removal (that is based on number of plains you control if you really need more removal) (BUT DEVOTION... yeah, you don't need to play only permanent spells in devotion decks.)
>>93240972Lay Down Arms is a fine suggestion honestly. I'll try it out. Only hits Creatures though.>(BUT DEVOTION... yeah, you don't need to play only permanent spells in devotion decks.)Sure you don't, but it's more optimal if you do.
>>93240972Lay Down Arms also has serious problems against Green Devotion and Niv to Light. I have no desire to make our bad matchups even worse.Probably a no bueno for that one, honestly.
how is pauper grixis affinity in the meta rn?
>>93240446>not rule 0'ing paper with your playgroup
>>93240446do you have the one where he throws rock right afterwards
are pro players really a bunch of usseless cheaters and unable to track counters on paper or the nadu deck is absolutely insane in that regard?
>>93241045Both. Pro players are literally too autistic to say something when their opponent blatantly cheats as well. They would rather take the loss than cause a scene
>>93241045>are pro players really a bunch of usseless cheatersYes except for me
>>93239845Leyline is sort of GGGG
>>93239845So in Commander, this is functionally "target player leaves the game" + steal all his cards
i hope theres skeleton or zombie tokens for the squirrel necromancers, even if they dont get the creature type of the corresponding animal>for the rest of my life my 2/2 zombies will always be these zombie frogs/birds
>>93239514>Trying to make le cute little mammal set have scary big guysReally doesn't work. It just looks dumb.
>>93239845All of these types of cards are extremely based and give me feels.
>>93239858sometimes the people who make art and people who put the art on cards just aren't on the same page
>>93241323Who shit in your cornflakes anon? Bloomburrow so far looks really cool, in fact better than at least the last 3 sets
>>93241362The retards who expect me to jizz myself over the set that reminds them of some shitty kids fantasy book they read, while ensuring they shit on every other set. Don't like it? Too bad. Looks trash
Do you guys like this whole "specific artifact tokens" thing that's shown up recently? I stopped paying attention to MTG around when Eldraine was coming out, so I was there for Food tokens, but now there's Treasures, Maps, and Clues, and I'm not sure what to think of them.
>>93241402They're awful.
>>93241420Why?
>>93241402Treasures and Clues both predate Eldraine.
>>93241402they are a little obnoxious if you play a deck with many of them like Ensoul, but theyre overall not the worst. it's not too different from playing a deck with several types of creature tokens, but large tokens are in general a bother in paperthe REAL menace is the recent uptick of tokens that are the same base token but are meaningfully unique, clearly designed for an online environment that handles it all for you and a genuine bitch to track in papersee, geralf the fleshwright and chromehost seed shark
>UPS has been sitting on my mh3 gift bundle for over a week now, rescheduling the delivery date every single dayThis is so annoying desu, why aren't gift bundles released the same time as the set?
>>93241402I actively despise them. They're fiddly to track, they are deceptively powerful so they get added to cards that don't need the help, treasures have lead to every format to have the same homogenized multicolor slurry as Khans standard, and above all else they make every artifact synergy have a bunch of unintended synergy. Magic needs to make a new permanent type called "resource" or something, retype all the treasure/map/blood/clue whatever to that, and then print some hate cards.
>>93241402They're fine. Not a huge fan of how it's incidental artifact synergy, but having variety in noncreature tokens is good.
>>93241440if it continues happening call your post office and ask to speak to the postmaster to ask why the fuck its happening
>>93241446>they make every artifact synergy have a bunch of unintended synergy.I agree with you on this. >>93241449>Postmaster>UPSUhhh
>>93241456oh i didnt realize you said ups not uspssadgeask a manger idk
>>93241449ups customer service in my country is dogshit, they never pick up the phone
>2 weeks without deckliststhey are deleting mtgo tomorrow aren't they
>>93241489all the anons were right, mtgo is too out of date, it doesnt have voice acting and flashy lights, the userbase is all in retirement homes
Alrighty then, NEXT BREW.Ignore the trash in the list, it's mostly jank test pieces right now. Trying to find functional wincons after we get the lock.'Tis brutal, my friend. Once the lock is on, they get ZERO cards. I believe the only option widely played in Pioneer to escape would be a flashbacked Memory Deluge, which is easy to deny as our lock hits on turn 3/4/5, well before mana for that gets going. Lock on = we win, end of story. Getting there is a different beast, however. Obviously we're going to move into a control shell. Likely some Supreme Verdicts and whatnot. Very fun as a starting experiment. If it works, it works, as you say. Just the Geier Reach + Narset combo is truly disgusting.
You have to consider that we are not simply a Narset Days dump your hand and hope you don't draw into anything.This is you discard your hand and get NOTHING EVER AGAIN FOR THE REST OF THE GAME.
>>93241489Trophies are racist against bad playersNow we are all equal! FISTEMOJI
>>93241641Cringe post
lookin like goryos reanimator is the best non ring deck, brosfinna boutta finish it up for a coupoe hundred
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6476773#paperdid any of the reanimators play on stream at the PT? i will go back and watch the matches if so
>>93241032Quite strong, Refurbished Familiar is a house and you're one of the better Snacker decks in the format. All the indestructible lands help against Ponza which is the biggest bogeyman in the format right now too.
>>93241756>literally 9th place at the PT>not a single game on streamthats bs man
i for one am extremely pleased to see spell snare find its way back into the metaevery fuckin card costs 2 nowadays
>>93241793Not in top 8, not worth recording specially when this deck is only using 5 MH3 rares (not even mythics)Nothing to see here, this tournament is meant to sell cards but they aren’t selling sets out of print. THINK, anon, THINK!
>>93241489God that would be the funniest shit
>>93241904>pic has me on the floorthat's gotta be a fake poster, what dense normie would even, let alone a team, a supply chain of
>>93239514>TQI wish this guy was playable.
And with just a little bit of brews and testing, we have arrived at a hard control deck that gives you NO options for coming back. Gone are the days of control decks kind of struggling to stabilize and slap away midgame threats with topdecks.Once we get you under control, your hand is empty. You do njot get to draw any more cards. You do not get a second chance. It's over. Owari da.Metlegen, I present the second shitbrew of this random bout of me fucking around.The Mayflower Wheel-Lock Caribne.Red white and blue Wheel-Lock, get it?And a summoner of absolute misery and suffering. Just like America!A few notes from initial tests:Turns out having your game-ending combo piece (Collective Defiance) doubling as removal (4 damage to target creature) so it's never a dead card is REALLY FUCKING GOOD.
I wish this guy was playable
>>93241942They're Czech
>>93242032use him with Silent Arbiter
>>93242027god damnit his brews are cracked
>daybreak cares more about magic than wizards doeslollmaorofl
>>93242093Very based!I honestly quite like Daybreak, they're cool and don't do anything retarded.Keeping Warhammer out of the damn game for a long ass time is BBB (Based Beyond Belief)
>>93241958Goes great in my Starscream commander deck!
>>93239514HAPPY 4TH OF JULY TO ALL FREEDOM LOVERS IN THE MULTIVERSE
>>93242279FUCK I SHOULD HAVE WAITED TO POST MY RED WHITE AND BLUE BREW I'M SUCH A LOSER
here's your budget deck bro
>>93242314>over half the cost is just SSSRDW is based as fuck though
>>93242314Thanks bro, appreciate it.
>>93242093What a bold move, tons of respect for these guys. Lead by example.
>>93242314wtf do these decks not run goblin guide anymore
>>93239767Well, the red preator is still "alive"* as is the blue one.Also if the wiki is not wrong Glissa was not killed.Not that wotc would do anything with what could be the remaining phyrexians. That company has 0 creativity left and the people working there hate the phyrexians and would rather have some silly or cute thing in the story instead. *until we see their corpses and true confirmation on that, not things like left for die or eaten by larvae
>>93242314Needs ruins and ring for easy damage.
>>93242960>non-basic lands
>>93239514>When Hugs enters,Enters what? My hand? Graveyard? Rigger Contaption Zone?Don't tell me those fags can't even print "etb" now
>>93243043>Don't tell me those fags can't even print "etb" nowYes, in fact, WotC rejects the reality of dependant clauses and transitive verbs, has fired every editor that tried to explain to them what a transitive verb was, and went with it anyway so they could fit MOOOOOOOORE WWOOOOOOOOOOOORDS onto cards.
wotc won’t forget to ban the one ring as well when they ban nadu, right?
>>93242032i wish they'd get alice x zhang for non UB art. i used to follow her about a decade ago, it's nice seeing her make a name for herself.
>>93243043Everything, ETB for exile
>>93242093The real question is:WHAT IS WOTC STILL WAITING FOR!??? BUNCH OF CLOWNS THE CARD IS A FUCKING DESIGN MISTAKE LIKE OKO BITE THE BULLET ALREADY
ITT retards as if meta has been solved 1 mo in
>hogak
>>93243522I hope nadu is banned and you end up destitute
>>93243522Yeah Give me more time bros!!! You will learn to love me!!! Please only 1 month in the meta you still can fight me!!!!
>>93243522But it has, the meta is you play Nadu or you play a bad deck. Once Nadu is banned you can post this again.
>>93243604Looks like wotc needs to unban hogaak to stop the bird
>>93243604Reminder that the first large Modern event after MH1 only had a single Hogaak deck in the top 8.
>>93243817You can only fight fire with fire.Is time to open the box and let the two kaijuus fight.
Grandpas go2sleep, Ho*ACK* wouldn't see play in current modern meta
>>93243043I can't wait to read "When this card enters..." on every card in the future
AHHHHHH HAHAHAHAH AWOOOOOGA AWOOOOOGA BRANGANGANANGANG BWIPOUUOOOOOOO YEEEE HAWWWWWWWWI LOVE PIONEER!
Anon are you ok?
>>93243992
>>93239553Yes and no. Less Zootopia and Beastars, more Redwall and The Secret of Nihm.
>>93244190>Anthropomorphic animals>Not furrysPick one and only one
>>93244210See, you and me are not the same.You see pic related, you see homo pandering, I see 80's fantasy illustration.Same goes for Bloomburrow. I see animals on an adventure, you see people in fursuits getting on.That's your problem, not mine.
>>93244234Go back to your containment thread
>>93244266And you should stop imagining fake scenarios and hurting your own feelings.
>>93244234I see AI slop
just 5 more years until pioneer 2 bros
Anyone word from WotC yet on the Modern situation?
>>93244613"Nadu a good birb, he dindu nuffin, he flyin' back to cawlege to be a docta"
Ikoria was a better animals only set than Furryburrow
>>932446371. Nadu needs to be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine2. If Nadu isn't on the field, all of the players should be asking: "Where's Nadu?"
>>93244613there is no "modern situation", the next b&r is happening in august and that's that"if you don't like it stop playing the format", that's what they believe in
>people seriously think Nadu is a problemHe has plenty of counters and ways to interact with him hes fine. If anything Shuko is the problem card that enables Nadu shenanigans.
>ban ShukoThere, problem solved
Unban Kethis.
unban monke
>unban Oko>bird is no longer the issueProblem solved
>there's a murder in your house >just nuke the house lmao
>>93244850>has plenty of counters>Shuko is the problemMark... Mark. WAKE UP, MARK!!!!
I don't know where this is seeing play because >lol decklists But this is currently the most expensive ACR card on MTGO
not Magic the Gathering
>>93244938Is there a format like modern but all the modern horizons sets are banned?
>>93245145it was called "traditional" and it failed to pick up steam
>>93243604They also gave Nadu to the worst player, so the results were obvious from the start
>>93245145Will still leave you with 3feri, Omnath, cowboy bird, fetches/shock/triome for 4c nonsense, sheoldred etc.Game's broken, no matter what you do
Wait, the only deck to go undefeated in Modern was Goryo's? That's actually sorta wild.
I need my small animals... Where is the new story...
I will crossboard link correctly this time.>>>/vg/484302331The /mtgag/ Timeless Event now has a sign up sheet. If you're interested in showing other anons how good you are at magic, please check it out!
>>93245356that's not the post I copied what the fuck man.>>>/vg/484663346
I never bought an official play-mat so I have no idea, are limited event only mats really worth $200-300? I was going to pick this one up but at this price point I could order dozens of custom mats with whatever cunny image I fancy.
>>93245400No mat is worth more than $20. Get a basic plain one.
What if the person on the draw got a free mulligan? would the game finally be balanced?
>>93245422hearthstone solved going 2nd years ago
>>93245422Going second and getting the extra card used to mean something but since every card shits value now for free it doesn't matter.
>>93245453>still fucks with the numbers because the coin counts as a spell and that synergizes way more with certain classes
>>93245480Van Cleef, home...
Turns should be simultaneous. The only thing to pass between players should be priority .
Best format for learning the game?
>>93245589A fucking shotgun.
>>93245589Drafts.
>>93245589whichever looks more fun to you
>>93245589Arena
>>93245589it depends on what you mean by "learning the game"if you want to learn the basic rules, you should try some tutorials they have on arena if you already know the basic rules and want to start getting experience, then you can try standard or pauper
they should print more free spells
It's so over...
>>93245630they just didand most people think they're kinda weak
>>93245643At this point in MH1's lifespan, Hogaak had barely made any big top 8s.
>>93245643these aren't really free they require a non token creature on the board. Force of will is more free, surgical extraction is more free
>>93245661Anyone who tries to reason with people who are proud of how unreasonable they are is beyond stupid.
I opened a playset of both tune in the narrative, galvanic discharge and 2 copies of wrath.What win cons could I replace Phlage with in this deck?https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=56944&d=624673&f=MO
>>93245736solitude is probably the closest thing, phlage is pretty hard to replace since it's both an answer and a wincon
>>93245736There is no replacement for Phlage.
>>93245736phlage is not your wincon it is your insurancethere is no replacement for recurrable lightning helix that will eventually close the game out on turn 29
im gonna fucking say itnadu loooks fun to play, i just cant in good faith buy into a deck i dont think will be around in the next couple monthsi like taking game actions and winning the game on the spot, it's a combo deck disguised as a creature deckand i love iti unironically think the conveyor belt and token armor looks FUN
>>93245758>>93245760>>93245768So I guess the chances of the price going down is basically zero until the next set that rotates modern comes out? I might buy two copies and try to make the deck work.
>>93245788some men just want to see the world burn.
How the fuck nandu decks can exist in modern. Is burn dead?
>>93245797to be honest, just get them now while theyre at like 35i think phlage will only go up, no higher than 50-60and it wont be any lower than 25 ever
>>93245802burn hasnt existed in literal years im sorry to say anoncounting to 20 is just unironically not fast enough for the combo decks and too easy to interrupt for everyone else
>>93245788nadu won't be banned. It is helping selling MH3. Just look at shitelementals: It took almost 2 years for wizards to do something about them and only banned furry.
>>93245810justbolt nanduhowwhati dont get it
>>93245812im pretty sure grief is getting banned in legacy soon, people just cant stop putting it in any deck that runs black and winning with it
>>93245820bolt the 3/4?that gets a draw when you target it?
>>93245831Stop replying to bait.
>>93245820>yeah bro you're sure to win if you spend 2 bolts killing Nadu, giving them +2 cards in the processBased retard.
>>93245831ohthat's right. if it was a 3/3 it wouldn't exist
>>93245812Nadu requieres some out of the world mental gymnastic to stay. I don't think Wizards is capable of such majestic reality evasion. Nielsen said it, Casuals are crying for it, Tryhards are angry at it, even Cummander crew is hating on it.Sincerely i don't know how they will save Nadu.
>>93245847ban shuko
>>93245847Nielsen is also a cheating piece of shit so like I dunno man.
>>93245843it would only be moderately less playabletheres cards that deal with it for 1 mana still but people play non targetted removal which is hard to do outside of mono b or black heavy decks
>>93245858The problem is not Nielsen is releasing a broken deck that forces players to keep track of 10000 triggers.
>>93245788I got it to play modern hammer and once it gets banned I'll just play it in legacy in maverick and breakfast, it's even playable in vintage too>>93245797if you're in a hurry to play the deck, I would recommend getting it now, a reprint should only be coming like 2 years down the line
>>93245853Don't solve the problem when other "Equip 0" artifacts exist.
>>93245877not tutorable by saga thoughbeit
>>93245868its unironically not that actually complex its just stupid to track physicallythe game actions being taken are really simple its just visually representing it that is a bitch
>>93245868Nadu has nothing to do with what he did in the quarter finals. He confused his opponent with life total bullshit to make him forget his Ring protection then targeted him and quickly passed turn without even attacking before his opponent remembered. The amount of cheating and poor sportsmanship was insane that PT.
>>93245882theres equip 1s tutorable by saga which will go even with lands from nadu triggers at leastand the en kor is chordable
>>93245876I'm not in a hurry but I have most the cards except for two copies of the one ring and all the phlages. It feels weird to pay $230 just for the last couple cards of the decks when I don't even play at tournaments.
>>93245897china proxies are 3 dollars and look better than real cards
>>93245847WE ARE MONITORING THE FORMAT AND THINK THAT BANNING Shuko WILL SOLVE THINGS OUT
>>93245882haha it sure would be crazy if there were effects which made any equip cost nothing to equip
>Ban Shuko>People up their Outrider count and start running Company>Deck gets even more consistentThe first Hogaak ban actually made the deck better.
Do you guys think that Nadu Endurance loops is a good representation of Magic gameplay?
>>93245926See. There is a pattern.
>>93245959eternal formats have way more broken shit than nadu, if you want to play hearthstone stick to standard or go play hearthstone
How many things will they ban before Nadu?
>>93245959in a way, kind ofit is pretty good representation of 'look at these broken cards that work together to do this broken thing infinite loop you cant stop me' that is a part of magics identityeveryone on occasion likes to gawk at the crazy broken thingl ike a zoo exhibitit just shuoldnt be a THING for long so it can become a myth and a fairy tale like eldrazi winter and hogaak summer
>>932459852.
where the fuck is my story?
>>93246018It's murica day, there probably won't be a story today.
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>>93246034WotC hate America so I await the story.
>>93246056They love basketball americans though
>>93245400is this actually a bebop collaboration? mtg is using its own characters and parodying the bebop opening doesn't sound like it would require a collaboration.
>>93246258It using the actual song probably makes it a full collab. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KcFKj14cYoStill a very weird collab.
which you think would be nadu song?
>>93245905Kill yourself, parasite. Get louped and disqualified.
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>93246292it's free on Arena
>>93246292Dumbass. Goldfish prices are massively inflated.https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/487805?Language=English
>>93246292>mfw I bought a playset when it was like 35.9 tix on MTGOknew it wasn't getting much lower than that, the card is broken as fuck
>>93246278https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsU0CGZoV8E
i dont play MTG what gift should i 3d print for a friend thats really into it? should i just make a really fancy deck box or what?
>>93246304Huh anon? And this is for a LP one.
This is from the PT. Fucking grim honestly.
>>93246292IT'S 4 MANA IT CAN'T BE GOOD IT'S FOUR 4 MANA 4 NO ITS FAIR 4 MANA
>>93246399That PT was a fucking joke. Javier should have been champion, was full of cheaters, trash decks, horrible missplays, incompetent judges and the worst of the worst: NADU.
>>93246428>Nielsen uses scumbag tricks to make Javier forget his Ring protection>No judge at the table to catch it>Nielsen gets away with it and wins a lost gameNext game>Nielsen picks up Javier's deck to shuffle it thinking Javier had just shuffled>Javier stops him to make sure Nielsen doesn't get a game lossI GUARANTEE you that if Javier had picked up Nielsen's deck to shuffle it he would've let it happen then called a judge over it. What a piece of fucking shit.
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>>93246292I got a foil copy when the set came out and put it in an acrylic brick just for a shelf piece. If it keeps climbing I might sell the damn thing even though that wasn't my intent when I got it.
>>93246350yes. or something that makes him quit this garbage
>>93246463Someone needs to do a Nadu+Hogaak edit of Jotaro approaching Dio.
>Shuko banNadu piles get stronger and more consistent>Oracle of Thassa banNadu piles just use value engine to become a splinter twin knockoff>5 months laterNadu is finally banned but we don't get the other cards back
Shuko taking a bullet for Nadu would be the clowniest thing WotC have ever done with a banning. Even Bridge from Below was somewhat justifiable because that's frankly a card that shouldn't exist even absent Hogaak as it only works when it's being exploited and there's not even a conceivably fair way to run it. Shuko is a fucking dog turd equipment. It would be too embarrassing.
Hoot-anon, can we talk about your fevered visions list? I played fv in inistrad/kaladesh and it was one of my favorite decks. You posted your list in another thread but I couldn't make out some of the cards. Do you have a link to the list, rather than those pictures you post? Fucking shame vision skeins isn't pioneer legal
>>93246644Thoracle ban would be great for the format(s) even if Nadu didn't exist
so goldfish is going under right without decklists, it's a worse moxfield or mtgtop8
>>93246287Don't you have some situations you need to monitor, Mr. Rosewater?
>>93246686The amount of fucking imagination they will need to make that ban even not bsolutely laughable and dishonest is unreal, i mean literally there is no single fucking way you could justify banning Shuko for the bird.
For me, my favourite Magic format is old-school '93-'94 format. Here is a pic of one of my favourite old-school cards, SuChi. They don't make beat-sticks like this anymore.
>>93246548Haven't people tried it out and determined Hogaak kinda crushes Nadu? Like both can just combo out, but if the combo flops, Hogaak's still just an 8/8.
>Print an indestructible better phyrexian arena for 4 generic mana that also time walks you when you play itWho would have seen this to be broken
>>93246957gonna let you in on a little secret, sometimes wizards prints broken cards on purpose
>>93246292It's gonna be a weird world once this invariably gets powercreeped
>>93246971MOCOCOEH???
Honestly modern is a better format with TOR in it. 4 mana value engines need to be this powerful to see play (see also how even the once-OP JtMS is basically a joke now). It single-handedly let Jeskai Control be a deck.
I really really wish there was an extension that could automatically detect frog/wojak posts and filter them.
>>93246055Source on this patriot?
>>93245132well doi, boseiju exists
Dont worry bros.Step:1 Print busted insufferable card everyone ask to dieStep 2: Make EVERYTHING you can to save the card, sometimes will be a side ban, sometimes ignore the claims while you say everything is fine...Step 3: Sell all the possible packsStep 4: PROFITStep 5: Now after squeeze until the last sheckel, you NOW can ban the card or simply print a new answer.
>>93246686>>93246906To play devil's advocate here, Shuko was already an enabler for Cephalid Breakfast. Nadu is just a roided up, Modern legal version of that. Hell, Cephalid Breakfast IS a Nadu deck now. If they ever printed another exploitable "Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability..." effect, Shuko would be the go-to enabler for that too. As previously said, the card is very weak on its own and is basically unplayable as a fair card. In other words, they can still spin it as a Bridge from Below or Mycosynth Lattice situation where it has no use case except enabling something degenerate.But it'll still be a Hogaak situation where they're refusing the address the actual problem because banning a hot new card is the worst possible outcome in their eyes.
>>93247060They should ban both Nadu and Shuko. Nadu is busted even without infinite targeting, and Shuko is a card that is either garbage or degenerate.
I wholly expect a Shuko ban, and I wholly expect Nadu to get stronger once it relies more heavily on Outrider.
>>93247086They shouldn't ban anything. The meta will adapt. The format has all the tools needed to deal with it. We're waiting to see how the next set will impact the meta. We can't ban anything because it would be disruptive toward upcoming events. All of the macro-archetypes are seeing play. The meta is healthy and diverse and there is plenty of room for rogue decks to succeed. According to our data, the deck doesn't have a disproportionate win rate. We're monitoring the situation. We'll take a closer look at the format in the coming months.
>>93247114>T. Mark RoswaterP.D: The Monitoring will continue, don't worry and keep buying packs, bois!!! :^)
>>93247114>The meta will adaptI remember reading these same comments after PT Oath.
>>93246644nadu doesnt use thoracle, it's only on modo because timer, you dont need it at all in paper
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>>93247238pichu spotted
>>93246957Generally you get another turn and 2 activations It's almost Time Walk + Ancestral Recall
Personally, I like the MH3 cards for legacy Froggy is fun, the new lands have made Oops! better, and D&T gets a new toyWe have Force of Will in our format, so Nadu isn't especially broken
>>93247006https://files.catbox.moe/6qbnxn.txt2.5 mb .txt file of all my MD5 filters, mostly frogs, wojaks and goldface but it's a bit outdated.
>>93247114>The format has all the tools needed to deal with itThis is like the ultimate insult to all the MTG players intelligence, you can't say this when you just had a world wide tournament with the best players in the world where they clearly showed the meta HAS NO TOOL against the deck.This is not a Vampires situtation where people were unprepared, pros cracked already the MH3 meta and even with the hate you can bring to stop the bird, he literally buttfucked the PT, saying such thing like the meta will adapt because it has the tools after this is like believe people is retarded or something.
>>93247305ありがとうございます senpai, hopefully it'll improve my 4chan experience even slightly.
>>93247326To be fair, they were saying that before the PT and everyone thought Harsh Mentor was going to do something instead of almost nothing.
>>93247373Harsh Mentor was dumpstering the Nadu decks until he ran into the one player running mainboard Stormdrake iirc. But of course, Chord of Calling's ridiculous flexibility isn't the problem AT ALL.
Didn't you people say this guy was supposed to be based
i can't understand this whole obssesion with a shit scam format like modern
>>93247394Cedric was an amazing caster with Patrick O'Sullivan, but as a person he's a knee-bending faggot.
>>93247299I undervalued this little guy during spoiler season so much, I looked at him and thought eh maybe he's like a good limited rare. I'll never pretend I'm good at evaluating cards again
>>93247420used to be good apparently but was taken away
meme or dream?
>>93247554forgot pic
>>93247420It was the most popular format for a while.
>>93247420zoom zooms and numagic players wont get it but for the 2010s modern and magic were interchangeable
has black totally lost access to first strike, it used to have at least a few cards with it, knights some vamps etc.
>>93247747it seems that way
>>93247747Yeah, I think they pretty much only let Black have it with knights and other callbacks like that. Last Black creature with first strike (that wasn't just an Odric-style "gets first strike if such-and-such has first strike") was... From AFR, actually. And even that was situational. Seems they lean more into menace and flying for black, and first strike was probably just 'too much'.
>>93247747Bloodghast/Ichorid likes wouldn't hurt.
>>93247819additionally seems like first strike has been surpassed by double which is almost exclusively white and red.
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