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>>93358050I wish he was my boyfriend
>>93358364even though he doesn't fuck?
It seems like Vehicles are a weak point for us. They're difficult for mono-b to interact with while not creatures, even worse that we run Go for the Throat. Bankbuster has been a big pain a few times. As such, I'm swapping GftT with an oddball: Anoint With Affliction.No, we have no poison, but if my poison control brews proved anything its that this card is plenty fine before hitting the threshold. As most (all lmao) problem vehicles in Pioneer are 2cmc, this plays against them well. More removal to hit vehicles solves one issue, but this also helps more against Amalia.The main path Amalia has beat us with is Return to the Ranks. In fact, that's just about the only way we've lost to her. Either RTR bringing back the entire combo, or a CoCo hitting exactly the right pieces at the right time. Other than that, it's tough for Amalia. Having more exile removal partly saves us from one of those loss categories. Combo pieces simply not being in the 'yard to Return, is the way. Few things Anoint fails to hit, can't be solved with our mountain of other removal pieces. It leaves us more vulnerable to Sheo, but we weren't particularly vulnerable to her to begin with so whatever. We'll see how that goes.Fable is also a big annoyance. Not much we can do about it, other than extract it before it lands, or slap it away the best we can if it does. It's just a broken card, it wins games by itself sometimes, not much to be done about that.As for other changes, upped it to 61 cards just to be a nerd. We're a deck that wins from attrition, so may as well do a minor hedge for weird fringe situations. The +1 was a Cabal Stronghold, which hoo boy is good. Enabling our 1-of March succ for 12+ life in the late game sure is something, a huge way to stabilize against potential paths to lose.I like the deck. I've given it the name Cheeto Fingers for now, an allusion to how many times our grubby, sweaty nerd hands get all over your cards.
Recent updates got me pondering about this little fucker.Both it, and any wincons you staple to it, are tutorable via Insatiable Avarice. I wonder if a Big Black Mana deck could be viable in the format.I've tossed March out for X=20+ a few times already. A wincon vulnerable to countermagic bites, but Pioneer has barely any playable counterspells so... I might start scratching at the idea.
Why do basedboys hate him so much?
>>93358445They just hate good aggro cards in general
>>93358445he kills slow reddit meme brews before they get off the ground
3x Gingerbrute2x Scavenger's Talent3x Bonecache Overseer4x Cache Grab3x Vinreap Mentor3x Thirnvault Forager4x Feed the Cycle3x Camelia, the Seedriser3x Corpseberry Cultivator3x Curious Forager 3x Consumed By Greed1x Rottenmouth Viper1x Ygra, Eater of All1x Huskbuster Swarm4x Restless Cottage4x Blooming Marsh2x Festering Gulch7x Swamp5x Forest
>>93358445Free value for red was a mistake
Modern playable?
>>93358756What plays it over murktide?
>>93358445he kill the Petdecks in standard and Pioqueer and basedtrannys hate that
>>93358404The Stone Brain doesn't seem very good. Why not replace it with something better?
>>93358725Red needs SSS to deal with combo and control. When removal is almost free your creatures have to be equally strong
pioqueert1 1 drop treasure when diet2 sac to draw 2 t3 sorin into vein rippermemedernHAHAHAHA CAT THEN CAST FOR ENERGY AND CREATE TOKEN ALSO FLIP, YOU TOOK DAMAGE BTW EXILE FROM GRAVEort1 urzas t2 ???t3 Nadu ggalchemyt1 landt2 grave expectationst3 juggle the performance (my deck is 4 juggle, 4 grave expectations and 52 lands)timelest1 brainstormt2 mana draint3 show and tell atraxa approach of the second sun ggstandardt1 tokent2 gleeful demolition t3 board is +10/10 in strength vintage/kekacy >lol, lmao
>>93355504Hi, MaNo! Can't wait for you to get fired!
>>93358946most sane poster award
>tq
>>93357882lollmao even
>>93358445why do shills and cucks like powercreepslop?
My boy just tried to tell me that Karn is a tree, he's such a jokester. Karn is made of metal, lmao.
>attempt to brew>as im constructing the deck increasingly think that there's no point because the deck is just a strictly worse than the FIREslop optimal variant of the deck
>>93358404>gay deck>gay namehow appropriate
>>93359237If you zoom out and squint, every element is a metal.
>>93358050You vs the vein ripper she tells you not to worry about
>>93358445This card is everything that's bad with Magic and RED in general
>>93359364>T. Bad at brewsThere is nothing to be ashamed of, anon.
>>93358050>TQThis fucker is going to make Jund lands an actual threath.
>>93358946vintage is the best format at the moment while legacy is a bit in the binbut even a bad legacy is infinitely better than modern
So all the meta pioneer decks are f2p on Arenas midweek magic, meta against meta and it's the most miserable shit ever. 6 decks but only 3 can win
>>93359689Wrong, limited is the only decent format, everything else is solved and/or at a ridiculous power level.
>>93359372If you're an astronomer every element that's not hydrogen or helium is a metal.
>>93359738After some quick games I have 10 games done and 0% WR with boros heroics. You need the nuts to win and opponents nuts beat yours
>>93359738Not even all of them and there are some Tier 1 decks alongisde Tier 2 decks add to that the MWM is fucking Bo1 so you can't put any silver bullet against those shits and obviously the event is fucking miserable
>>93359600How am I supposed to compete with Beanstalk in Legacy while also playing green? I want to use Baleful Strix, Ice Fang and Snapcaster combined with Flare of Denial in a 4cc shell but there's simply no point when I could just make half my deck into cantrips.
>>93358946Vintage is in a good spot because we are reaching a point in Magic history where cards are finally being printed that are as retardedly powerful as cards made during Magics inception (Lurrus is a prime example of this). New toys to play with in vintage turns out to be great for the format since its hard to make anything more FIRE than Black Lotus. Legacy and Modern have the opposite problem, the actual good cards from their respective eras are banned but new cards being printed that are WAY more powerful will never ever be banned. Pioneer is in a uniquely retarded position because one or two bans would unironically save the entire format but since the format doesn't help sell supplemental sets WotC has open contempt for Pioneer and sees it as a massive mistake.
So I’m trying to broaden my horizons by trying out more card games and as such I’ve been trying to better understand Magic. I’ve tried out Arena and honestly it’s a mixed bag, less so that the card game itself is bad but that the digital game is overly restrictive with playing formats to encourage paypigging and I refuse to pony up. The reason I bring this up is that I’d like to try out some more varied games than what Arena will let me play and due to Bloomburrow my LGS is holding a draft event. I’ve never played draft before and I’m uncertain whether or not I should try it out especially since it’s 40 dollars to sign up and I’m uncertain how often I’ll play in paper, though at least it’s better to support my LGS rather than an app. What’s your guys’ expert opinion?
>>93359819Kill yourself phoneposter.To answer your question, draft is the most skill testing format because you can't just mindlessly netdeck and throw money at the game to win, and it's more testing than sealed because you can curate what you build whereas sealed is just hoping you open the right stuff to build a strong deck. It's worth doing at least once, especially if, due to you being new to the game, your LGS is filled with more casual players. Prereleases and prerelease drafts tend to attract all the EDHonlies and casuals so you can pretty easily stomp them if you have your wits about you.
>>93358050Same energyhttps://scryfall.com/card/mir/146/spirit-of-the-night
>>93359819Wrong hobby if you are poor although arena is good if you are poor. Why the fuck is a bloomburrow draft $40 though, I assume that must be outside america but even so I don't know a country with dollars valued so little. Are you sure you don't mean a prerelease sealed?Arena isn't very restrictive, only if you actually want to have a top tier deck but that's just the nature of anything p2w. Personally I just draft on arena for free with the rare irl event.I mean what advice did you expect? Do it if it sounds worth it to you, don't if it doesn't, no one cares.
>>93359819As >>93359854 said you probably mean pre release, not draft. A very basic pre release advice for beginners would be to play the two colours with the most creatures and try to have a low, aggressive curve
>>93359661>this creatureI hadn't noticed, is it just for creatures with offspring?
>>93359854>>93359884Yeah you’re right it’s actually a pre release, don’t know how I fucked up reading Pre Release as Draft. I’m honestly not really sure what advice I was looking for, in general I’m not doing great and a family member suggested I attend an event at my LGS but.. I my not sure if I should try it out or not, not sure if that’s the depression talking or not. Doesn’t matter really I guess.Anyway thanks for the advice guys, I’ll try and keep it mind and come back to reread it if I actually decide to go.
>>93359940It's the bloomburrow wording for kicker.
>>93358050>TQAkroma 1.0
>>93354735I'm wondering if Roots can abuse forage.
>>93359966just give up on roots. it will not be good as long as temp lockdown and boseiju exist
>>93360152It already is good though i suggest you step up your game
>>93360152Boseiju's gone in two weeks, man.
anyone tested phoenix with DTT in place of TC yet? obviously 2 mana draw 2 is much worse than 1 mana draw 3 but we all know TC will be gone by this time next year
Why is Reanimator dominating legacy? Shouldn't it be easy to hate on graveyard?t. retard
>>93360480It's very easy to board into graveyard hate, yes. But then their 5/6 frog kills you in the air and it's impossible to remove because it's turn 7 and they have 6 cards in hand.
>>93358445It's one of the worst designed cards since Eldraine. You get value by not even playing it.
When was the last time you bought sealed product?
Pioneer bros after playing a lot of games of MDW Magic i came with a conclusion: I want Sorin and Phoenix to FUCKING DIE. Kill those decks.
>>93360480As >>93360528 said.Basically it isn't ye olde UB reanimator where you animate a big dumb idiot, but more of a tempo deck that randomly rings the bell and cheats in a big dumb retard.Disruptive decks with a very strong clock are generally super good in eternal formats, since they can race AND not die to combo.
>>93360480because it's not a traditional, all or nothing, reanimator deck, it's a deck full of interaction and efficient threats with a tight reanimator packagefor example, they can start their turn 1 with pitch black card to grief, take a look at your hand, see your graveyard hate, discard it if it's the only you have, if not, they discard something that furthers your game plan, and pivot into beatdown mode next turn
If you could delete just one Modern Horizons set from existence which would it be?
>>93360755MH3What a trash.
>>93358445this guy feels so much more honest than ragavan ever did
New Burning-Tree Emissary for Rakdos.
With fucking rummage.
>>93358050They nerfed her
>>93360910>becomes a proper ratyou mean made her consistent with the new setting? oh no...
>>93360755MH2, albeit I'd be happy with Mirrodin ||both of them, playing le funny ponza man vs artifact decks is fucking dogshit gameplay||.t. Pooper player
>>93360931If sissy can't goon.SISSY! ANGRY! >:(((((
>>93360931>a proper ratHate when my pet rat stands on two legs and becomes a ninja warrior using insect arms as weapons.
>>93360885Only gives you the mana if an opponent lost life this turn
Whenever one or more tokens you control enter, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.{W}: Level 2When this Class becomes level 2, create a token that’s a copy of target token you control.{3}{W}: Level 3Token creatures you control get +2/+2.
>>93360947very cool bad faith interpretation, bet you petted yourself on the back for it
>>93360755the second one, how is this even a contest?
>>93360931you mean generic and boring
>>93360958Still totally enables the "vomit 6-8 power onto the board on turn two" play patterns BTE was famous for.
>>93361008okay what else did you expect in that case, seeing the art from this set. Did you expect a slut rat with 3 pairs of tits out or what?
>>93360977"Once each turn" has become such a crutch for the design team.
>>93361017>play a 1 drop>hope your opponent doesn't have a 1 drop to block>then turn 3 drop 6-8 power on the board>meanwhile boros plays a 1 drop>doesn't worry about blockers and generates value on play anyway>T2 creates 3 1/1s, plays another 1/2 and then a 4/4 that Memory Deluges, totalling 9 power on board
>>93361034It sounds so much like YGO I wonder why I should bother playing MTG when YGO at least has sexy artwork.
Modern Bolt - R - InstantThis spell deals 2 damage to any target, If Saturn is in retrograde it deals 3 damage instead. If not then exile the top card of your library, you may play it until the end of your next turn, gift a goat.
>>93360977cute!!!
>>93360977entra donde?
>>93359940Yeah, same thing as backup, so players don't get confused, though offspring makes copies so they have the same name anyway, but... Yeah, this is what the change coming in Foundations ([CARDNAME] to 'this [cardtype]') is mostly gonna be about.
He take the egg. Also this sort of ends up just being "what if Word of Command wasn't an absurd nightmare of rules text" in a sense.
>>93361060You should play YGO, after all you are clearly a pornography addict.
>>93361097Fun fact, you can exile the card they drew from the gift.
>>93361081esta claro, en el culo.
>>93361019oh fuck now I am
>>93361097This seems strong...
>>93359943Some places do drafts around prerelease time so maybe it was on the line below. If you have any interest in mtg at all then definitely go to a prerelease, it's the best starting point by a mile.
>>93361097I'd rather just cast the bat.
>>93361119I will draw it for myself and never share
>>93361103Tell me you can't get laid without telling me you can't get laid.
>>93361051So what you're telling me is that the boroshitter won't block because he wants to convoke next turn so all I gotta do once I've got a board full of creatures twice the size of his is aim a single removal spell at his big idiot. Cool.
>>93361097I like it.
>>93361164No I'm saying Imodane's Recruiter is coming on T3 and you can't afford to use your 2/2s for anything but blocking, putting you at square one, minus some life and with less cards than him.
>>93360594Rakdos and Phoenix are why the only fun Pioneer decks are combo decks, and 5c Niv. You will never outvalue Swords to Plowshares into Ancestral Recall with a normie ass creature deck, so just don't even try.
Legasisters, when will WotC finally do what needs to be done to make our format fun again?>BAN FoW>BAN Brainstorm>BAN Ponder>BAN Daze>BAN Psychic Frog>BAN Reanimate>BAN Grief>BAN Troll of KD>BAN Entomb>BAN Wasteland
are you going to buy any bloomburrow packs?
>>93361051>>93361170Boros gets a lot less consistent with Epicure gone. Gleeful Demolition is a lot less reliable with half as many 1-mana token producers and Yotian Frontliner's a mediocre stand-in. Two months from now the deck is probably just Boros Mice with Knight-Errant and the artifact package is dumped entirely.
>>93361236Ill play the prerelease. All mtg is good for
>>93358809The power of the deck is in stripping the opponent of winning chances. Stone Brain (imo) does that better than Lost Legacy, as Brain can sneak past countermagic on the play, and hit manlands, and Necromentha, as killing us before we stabilize is aided by zombies.I can test other options, but if you want to get a sense for the deck just try it out. Landing Stone Brain on Phoenix by turn 3, or Amalia/Wildgrowth, is so potent that the game basically just ends the instant you do.Think of it like a math problem. We have X amount of removal (Our entire deck)/, then have Y number of threats. Stone Brain removes the 4 biggest threats, so we never have to worry about them again, while we only need to spend 1 (or fewer, if Lilis get online) piece of removal on each remaining threat.This is a slow deck, but don't underestimate the potency of an opponent having a deck full of lands and removal with no targets. If we get to turn 7/8+, basically no deck but Niv can beat us. Once we stabilize, you simply do not get to topdeck wincons anymore. It's fun!
>>93359365You gonna cry about it, nerd?
>>93361097>steals egg bigger than himself on top of the treeCongratulation you got yourself stuck. Now what's the next step in your master plan?
>>93361315CUTTING DOWN THIS TREEWITH NO SURVIVORS
>>93361097Them drawing before the after rather than after it makes this card not unplayable.
>>93361315Magic? Toss it down to a soft catching nest below? Lower it down with a rope? Magic?
Alright anyways, bad matchups for Cheeto Fingers.Niv to Light, and not for the reason you think. Yes, it is basically a deck made entirely of 1-ofs, and the hexproof from monocolored niv does hurt, but we have enough removal to deal. The real problem is motherfuckin' Klothys. Several games already, everything has been locked down but a Klothys singlehandedly chops through 20, 30, 35 life by itself. Brutal stuff. Couple that with flashing Leyline Binding being able to save Klothys from Invoke Despair (Even if the Binding has no targets) and that one card is a recipe for disaster for us.I'm floating a few options. Obviously Invoke isn't terrible, but right now I'm looking into Debt to the Kami. Another odd choice, but the exile over sac and instant speed makes it modestly potent. It also lets us deal with a choice few problem enchantments, like a top side sharknado, if needed. In it goes for now!
>thoughseizes your debt to the kamipsssh... nuthen personnel... kid...
>>93361348>shuffle it back in>tutor it againOk. Good job on that, mate.
Red manadorks when? Make pic rel 1 mana please
>>93361357A proposal!>You receiveA 1 mana Emberkitten.>I receiveBut it deals 2 damage to you whenever you tap it for mana.
>>93361357Red's mana dorks are rituals and treasures.
Does bloomburrow have any counters? It seems creature heavy
>>93361315Take away the fucking problematic beast egg.WITH NO WITNESSES
>>93361372decent
>>93361352>thoughtseizes it a second timelmaoooo you fucking suck BITCHASS xDDDD
>>93358050The power creep is insane. More like a sprint than a creep.
>>93361154>Bro bro you don't get laid because you don't want to have quasi pornography on your fat nerdy paper squares!!Lmao, goontards everyone
>>93361361We already have a better dork so embercat should be a emberkitten for an red elemental deck. Also unban fury while you're at it
>>93361372The UU counter creature/ Gift counter any spell one
>>93361389pffdamntwo thoughtseizesi'm defeated
>>93361366Says who? Color pie is a lie and you're a faggot
>>93361390Don't even try to pretend that trash was ever playable outside of limited and your shitty timmy kitchen table decks.
>>93361407*gives ur balls a playfull squeeze*leave magic to the professionals jabroni ;)
U/B about to take down another pre release?
>>93361420I may be a gay, but I am NOT a jabroni. You take that back, or else!
green swords to plowshares when?
>>93361372Yeah there's lots of different types of counters
>lol just print underworld breach again lmfao
>>93361447I think you know what i meant
>>93361451>mfw necrodominance + festival of embers = rakdos control
>>93361451Underworld Brech was A LOT better than that shit.
>>93361451>costs 3 additional mana>only instant and sorceryinto the trash it goes
>>93361451>Underworld Breach>4RHuh, that's not how I remember Breach...
>>93361451This isn't even better than Past in Flames, anon.
WIAY! Xd there are cards that di the sams as ofhed cards! Why they reprintbeffect on 5 mana enchantment! Its the sane giys! Look! Its gonna be so op! XDDD
>>93361443Never hopefully. I miss the color wheel
>>93361525The color wheel never existed. We had a thread not long ago with a bunch of autists spamming mono green burn spells. The pie was always a lie, color governs flavor not crunch.
>>93361513Bloomburrow is a weak set, however has the balls to deny this at this point is simply a shill.
Hey wait does the offspring copy of a creature also have the offspring ability?
>>93361555It does, but offspring is basically kicker so it does nothing on the battlefield and only matters when you are casting the card.
>>93361525GInstant As an additional cost to cast this spell, reveal a creature card from your hand.Exile target creature if its power is less than the revealed card's power. If the creature doesn't have flying, its controller gains life equal to the revealed card's power.
>>93361570So you can't chain it to get multiple copies?
>>93361581No
>>93361580>G>Exile target permanent>Its controller creates a 0/2 green Plant creature token100% color pie approved
>>93361584Kinda gay desu
>>93361593Sorry bub, animals only fuck ONCE.
>friends all went deep into this set because cute animals>power level sucks asssomeone point out the overtuned product seller because I dont see it.
>>93361575We're back lifegain bros.
>>93361377Actually he gave it to Glarb.
>>93361599>someone point out the overtuned product seller because I dont see it.It's an uncommon lmao
>>93358434I like Stronghold a lot, too.on Arena
Azure Beastbinder - {1}{U}Creature - Rat RogueVigilance~ can't be blocked by creatures with power 2 or greater.Whenever ~ attacks, up to one target artifact, creature, or planeswalker an opponent controls loses all abilities until your next turn. If it's a creature, it has base power and toughness 2/2 until your next turn1/3
>>93361540The pie isnt always used but it shouldn't be disregarded. The colors having distinct styles of play is what makes having colors worth it. Im pulling this out of my ass but i bet if it were graphed we would see a greater breaking of the wheel over time between 2010 to 2022 with it somewhat coming back now.
>>93361589>G>Instant>Kicker U>If this spell was kicked, target permanent gains flying until the end of the turn.>Destroy target permanent with flying.Tell me this isn't 100% within the color pie.
Where are the Bumbleflower stans?
>>93361633That is within the color pie.
>>93361633Just because colours can do something in combination doesn't mean they should do it in one card. Blue can bounce something to the top of the library and then mill, but it can't do that all in one card. Green can get deathtouch and fight effects, but it can't (or shouldn't) get a creature that fights on ETB with deathtouch, etc.
>>93361633It needs to be "target permanent if it has flying" so you can target nonflying things.But other than that, checks out. Green can destroy things with flying, perfectly fine.
>>93361631Color pie breaks have been steadily increasing because EDH players eat it up. Enchantment removal for my mono-B Tinybones deck? Sweet!
Speaking of the colour pie, we got the increasingly more common red bite effect. I think this is fine to exist for red, personally. Green gets fight and bite, red just gets bite.
>>93361669Thank you for your thoughts.Taking them into mind, we have decided to give Bone Splinters effects to Green in addition to fight and bite.
>2G>4/4>Toxic 1>Trample>Combat damage to player, proliferateJesus Christ
>>93358050>big owl editionSuch a wasted opportunity for the 'superbowl' pun.
>>93361663It all goes back to them. Commander used to be a cool format before they started pushing it.
>>93361669Would help if I posted it.
>>93361689>Let's just take an old card...>And make it better!Shit designers.
>>93361689this art is fucked
>>93361689>"Every card in this set has good art!"they said>"The best art in years!"they said...
>>93361708Generally it does have good art and generally it is the best in years
>>93359792Isn't Flare just fundamentally bad? Free counters are good because they stop your opponent from making a non-game and let you commit threats without going shields down. Flare requires set up so it's too slow, and it messes up your board state so it sucks for keeping your clock.>>93361204Ban everything until Maverick is good.
>>93361387how is this just not a worse counterspell??
>>93361204Standard: ban go for the throat, duress, and monastery swiftspearPioneer: ban fatal push, thoughtseize, fable of mirrorbreaker, bloodtithe harvester, vein ripper, sorin the imperious bloodlord, prosperous innkeeper, wildgrowth walker, amalia, and mutavaultModern: ban galvanic discharge, orchis bowmasters, grief, and delighted halfling
>>93361741It is a worse counterspell, but counterspell isn't available in every format.
>>93361390Oh no, limited fodder might have some random use outside of fucking limited, Lord forbid.
>>93361688EDH died the moment the first precons got printed.
>>93361741We work with what we've got.
>>93361599The infinite value while mice that grabs shit from your deck if you so much as breathe in its direction.
>>93361097Logistically speaking, is it worth choosing to gift when playing this card? Typically your goal in this kind of black deck is to deprive them of resources and leave them with nothing but lands in their hands right, letting them replace their card seems counter productive
>>93361708Come on contrarian bro bring a better set in the arts deparment in the last 3 years. I will wait.
Can't wait for "Gift a discard" or "Gift a lightning bolt to the face"
>>93361818I want to gift a bomb to my opponent deck. It's not worse than this gift mechanic shit.
>>93361804You can steal the card they drew if you gifted.
>>93361805ONE.
THE FUTURE IS NOW, OLD MAN!
meds
Cute animals are cool, but the art is still missing soul
evens - buy ugin's lab nowodds - wait another few weeks
>>93361611>Brings back three slickshot show-off's for 3 mana
>>93361879YOU'RE GAT DAYUM RIGHT
>>93361868welp, what is done is done
>>93361879You fucking wish!
are the foil cards in the fat packs a known quantity? Is it like "You'll get a foil alt art Mr Weasel" or is it more "You'll get a foil alt art from this selection"?
Have Sex1WInstantGift a condom (a condom is an artifact token with 1, Sac: Target creature gains protection from everything until end of turn)Put two 1/1 white baby tokens onto the battlefield. If a condom was promised, sacrifice the tokens at the end of your turn.
>>93361899he actually did it the absolute madman
>>93361638Can someone break down what about this thing's abilities make it Bant?
which color has the best art this set, that's all I care about. That's the one I will play
>>93361599>someone point out the overtuned product sellerJust like you said it yourself, it's the "cute art", girls and furries will flock to it and it'll sell like hotcakes just because of it, no need for good cards
>>93361638>1/5 rabbitHer butt is big enough for the Balduvian Horde
>>93361927Blue
>>93361924Bant is the gay grouphug shard.
>Put Amalia, Sylvan safekeeper and wildgrowth walker into your GY for 3 mana>Summon them next turn for 3 alsoIt's too slow for memedern but perfect for pioneer, they should just print it already
>>93361899eldrazibro? :D
>>93361922I was on the fence because I love legacy eldrazi and it seemed like ugin's lab wasn't necessary for it, then I saw some modern eldrazi lists doing well and since there's only eldrazi temple as a sol land in modern, ugin's lab became essential
>>93361961based, I'm playing something similar in legacyhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6498032#onlinefor modern, I'm more interested in a mono green versionhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6517880#online
>>93361599>to tap into furry audience we will release packs with old walkers with furry skins>but how do we make a set around that?>set?
>>93361236As usual I will go to a prerelease, buy one bundle and one display. Then I'll keep playing drafts untill the new set comes.
I hate this "power level sucks" psyop, BLB is the strongest standard set yet
>>93361451>make stupid amounts of mana>recast all my instants>before they resolve sac festival>graveyard refilled
>>93362068>BLB is the strongest standard set yet
Are you guys collecting anything in regards to MTG or are you just getting cards to play? I have some complete old sets because they were the sets of my youth, but I haven't collected anything in recent years. If anything, all the booster fun stuff makes me want to collect less instead of more. When I see decks with a mix of full art, extended border, fake old border, and flavor of the set special border, I feel disgusted.
>>93362192magic is a toy, you buy it so you can play
>>93361754When nothing is chaff, everything is chaff
>>93362192I exclusively play on arena. I have a small amount of physical cards (probably under 100) that I don’t play with
>>93362192Alt art used to be unique. Now its usually worth less than regular
>>93362131Absolutely
>>93361689isn't this green ability?
What would WOTC need to do to make you see bundles as actually good value for money?
>>93361689you know apples be scared when he walks in the room
>>93362267thats the fat pack replacements right?theyd just have to make paper standard the hard default again so i would be playing it
>>93362248Nobody cares if you give red fights/bites because red already has burn.
>>93362267Kill arena and commander. Make good sets.
>>93357907>>You may cast this from exile.>MtG is YGO-lite confirmed. I might as well go back to YGO since they have cute girls and sexy women unlike MtGliterally all I want is high fantasy sexy ladies. why does magic get gayer year after year?
>>93362267Bundles are fine but I wouldn't mind if they threw out the land packs and added in a couple more actual packs.
>>93362381didnt they also stop doing full arts in the bundles and just start doing normal lands?
>>93362373I will be honest with you at the risk of being banned for telling the truth. Blackrock invests in these companies to make the women uglier. The reason they want the women uglier is so that way women look more "manly" to normalize transsexuals. Transsexuals are being normalized because weak men think that if they become women, then their lives will be easier. Their lives are difficult because a combination of women in the workplace and immigrants (an extremely high labor pool) is making it difficult to find well-paying jobs. A lack of well-paying jobs makes it difficult to purchase housing, which reduces personal security and autonomy. Properties are not being destroyed, however, and instead are being purchased by investment companies.Investment companies like Blackrock.
>>93362356Good sets don't make enough money for Daddy Hasbro
>>93358946>Pauper>"Ah, I see you've leveraged your resources well against my removal and card advantage">"Not running your combo into my open mana? Smart play, we shall have to test each other's tempo over the coming turns">"A two for one! Very good. This incremental advantage will force me to apply pressure or fall behind">"Ah, you've removed my land! Fortunately I kept a safe hand for this">"What a novel sideboard card! I'll have to remember this for game three"We'll just pretend like Avenging Hunter doesn't exist
>>93362248It's been intermittent in red for a long time, just Red more often uses straightforward damage. Green is absolutely primary in it, but Red gets it too.
>>93362284>Flavour text says Lukka got friendship from the bond>In the story Lukka absolutely hates the tiger and wants nothing to do with it even up to its death
>>93362458>>93362248Also it just works well with the Valiant ability in this set, so a more roundabout Red kill spell that triggers Valiant is more reasonable to have for the archetype.
>>93362449They absolutely do but hasbro doesn't understand long term anymore. Bet they go bankrupt within the next decade
>>93362267>MtG>Good value for money That's never gonna happen ever again, people view cards as disposable now because there's been too many reprints, too much powercreep, too many pushed decks.
>>93362477Infinite money forever isn't a sustainable target, surprisingly.
I may be a brainlet so can someone explain how good Cruelclaw is?I mean casting a free card seems pretty strong but you are also nuking your library constantly AND have to discard if you want to play whatever you get.Seems a bit like a gamble to me.
A second counterspell in the set. It's... Garbage, but limited-playable maybe.
And another Class. Pricey levels, but that level 3 ability could be kind of nuts. And just being a 1 mana 1/1 with prowess that triggers prowess is notable.
>>93362505I think it works in blue black control for limited but thats about it. And desu its better for the draw if anything.
It just occurred to me the story for bloomburrow is a kamigawa block retread.
>>93362510>1 mana noncreature that makes 1/1 prowess tokenDamn, anon got his wish
>>93362514Wotc hasnt made anything original in almost a decade
>>93362525It hurts
>>93362510>>93362520The only minor disappointment with this is it's not a wizard but you can't get everything you want. I still like it.
>>93362534woah we needed new soul sister nonsense
>>93362510The new fucking Kumano that will make Standard RDW izzet?
>>93362495People are talking about pioneer where it's ultra cascade in one card and the deck you slot it in are already top heavy. Like discarding bunch of lands really doesn't matter when you're at 3 mana, at that point Sheoldred only needs 1 more land to be castable. TLDR>Cascade everytime you hit an opponent>Menace means it can't be blocked because black has so much removal>When you cascade you'll always hit useful stuff or just win the game with ripper, fable, Sorin or Sheoldred >Dodges push People will say it's bad because it has to live but it's still a 3cmc creature that wins you the game if left alive.
>>93361599>power level sucks assLearn to enjoy low level magic
>>93362561And like even if, even if it doesn't hit a bomb it's still card draw, hand disruption or removal for free. Discarding a card doesn't mean shit, you "discard a card" everytime you put a creature on the battlefield.
>>93362534Ajani's Pridemate just got replaced, damn
>>93362534>soul sister payoff with modularVery cool
>>93361599Come back once people actually get their hands on the set and we find out what's been tremendously underestimated
>>93361924Vigilance is white, +1/+1 counters are green, drawing cards and flying is blue
>>93362599i like low level magic but i hate that for once we have a superb set and good looking cards and just a few will see actual play outside of standard meanwhile horrible sets like mkm had a lot of cards that saw play.
>>93361638Blue can do anything, and green/white is because she's a rabbit.
>>93362708Meant for >>93361924
>>93362637It's been replaced a while ago
>>93362731supplemented
BLB art
'll eat a cruelclaw if cruelclaw doesn't hit 30 bucks and doesn't get banned.
>>93362599I would, if it could be played.Unfortunately, MTG is power crept to oblivion so low power simply gets tossed into the bin.
>>93362765>calamity beasts are just magic rabies
>>93362700Vigilance is also green, so remove white. +1/+1 counters are also white, so add white back in and remove green.
>>93362837Yeah, there's not a lot that needs to be green but Commander designs are often just extra colours... Sometimes just because.
Anyway, here's something for counters-based decks, maybe? Might be too slow.
>>933628792, Remove a +1/+1 counter form a creature you control: Draw a card.Was this design really so hard to figure out?
>>93362782>RabidAt the beggining of each upkeep, put +1/-1 counter on this creature.Whenever rabid creature deals combat damage to another creature, that creature becomes Rabid.
>>93362892But that's not what that card does
>>93362892There's differences in those effects that probably matter for balance reasons.
>>93362879You could draw your deck in roots but it's meh
>https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/planeswalkers-guide-to-bloomburrow-part-3>Valley is populated by multiple other animalfolk species, such as weaselfolk, molefolk, foxfolk, and more.>foxfolkI need it!
>>93362899Yeah, the way it works now you can't use it on +1/+1 counters you had out before you played it.Making it CONSIDERABLY worse.
>>93362902>for balance reasons.IMAGINE saying that in the context of nuMagic
>>93362904It's still weird we haven't seen any foxfolk besides Jace. There's also a mole in the story, but none seen on cards yet. We've at least had two weasels.
>>93362905The way it works now, you also get to keep your +1/+1 counters, and it works much better with proliferate. Neither is strictly better, it just depends on the deck and the situation.
>>93362879Yawg non-conditional card draw?
>>93362922I guess we have seen one already. Slipped my mind.
The new brew is going into bizarro world.Obviously going to be some kind of control setup.What do I add?
>>93362961
Has the dust settled? Is Bloomburrow going to be lame?All I see is a bunch of creature cards, each with various combinations of "do X in a convoluted way to draw a card, or exile a card that can be played" or "do X thing to get a +1/+1 counter"I don't even like playing creature heavy decks.
>>93362966Not Pioneer legal.Would be a sick option though.
>>93362985I guess if you really want to meme, you can play this as a 3 mana draw 4
>>93362972>Has the dust settled? Is Bloomburrow going to be lame?It is, in fact, 100% completely lame.No power. The lore was soulless and the story was mid. I guess cute animals can carry a set, but only until box prices tank to sub-60 when everyone realizes there's no value.
>>93363003>Target playerOH LAWD. I thought all of these were target opponent, that's pretty savage. Never would have noticed, thanks mate.
Otters just play Calvinball, apparently.>The most popular otterfolk game and their cultural pastime is called otterball, an endless, ongoing game whose exact rules are unknown and whose parameters are constantly shifting. It’s completely baffling to non-otters. The only things anyone else can be sure of are that it’s played largely in water and that the Calamity Beasts are involved in some way—but particulars of scorekeeping, penalties, and illegal moves are a mystery.
>>93363006And I'm basically judging these sets on their standard viability. Sure there's like a couple cards from MKM but for the most part it's like it doesn't exist. Meanwhile I swear every deck is running at least two unique cards from Ixalan, and BRO or ONE have enough synergy to allow you to craft full standard viable decks mostly around their mechanics.
>>93363042based retards
>>93363046Indeed. Unless we get some sleeper spoilers, or maybe one of the big mythic sorceries ends up being potent, this set really just looks full dead on arrival.
>>93363042>Animalfolk>Animalball>Animaltown
>>93358050Kaervek, the Spiteful best friend.
>>93358391he fucks like a bunny
>>93362837I get what you're saying but I think it would feel weird if it was just in UG/WU/GW
>>93362961Demonic Bargain is another meme way to draw cards in this.
>>93363125I think I prefer Lost Legacy as, given mono-black extract tests, maindeck extracts are beefy, I'll be testing both absolutely. Great suggestion.
>/mtgay/ calls MH3 weak despite powercreep being used to sell packs >turns out modern becomes block constructed >/mtgay/ calls Bloomburrow weak despite powercreep being used to sell packs>...
>>93363151MH3 is pretty weak overall compared to MH2.It's more like a LotR with a choice few absolutely retarded cards, than MH2 where almost the entire set was a busted garbagefire.
>>93363151Who called MH3 weak? Wasn't Nadu considered busted from the start?Also which card in Bloomburrow is powercreep? I don't even feel like they're stronger than standard
>>93363151This post changed my mind completly.Bloodburrow is the set that will cement the next standard format for years to come. Unironically.
>>93363084it says right there he doesn't fuck
>>93358050>tq
>>93362768Screencapped. Hope you like cardboard anon.
>>93363151>/mtgay/ calls Bloomburrow weak despite powercreep being used to sell packs>It results the art was superb because they wanted the boomer audience. Set in the end was weak
All I’m saying is that RDW shouldn’t exist.
>>93363311All we need to curb RDW is by banning the 1 mana prowess. Honestly at least SSS comes a turn later
>>93363325RDW is fine because it curbs worse degenerate decks. All aggro does it
>>93362922where skunks?where opossum?like 1 card of each was shown.
>>93360958It has 1 colorless mana in cost and is a shaman (probably)(or a warlock?)
>>93363337I would rather play against monogreen aggro a thousand times before I play against RDW even once.
>>93363440Show me a mono green aggro deck in any format before you start comparing apples and dildos.
>>93363440Why? There are generally more counters to red then green in terms of aggro
>>93363475No.>>93363478Monogreen aggro is honest. RDW is not.
>>93361195The meta is kind of fucked because apparently Deluge is bugged, and U-control isn't showing like it should. It's more obvious in paper metas I guess, Amalia folds to UW.
>>93363500>dies to removalSeems honest to me.
>>93363542>pings you for 1>makes your next creature stronger>causes all your creatures to be exiled when they die and is also a 2/2 with haste>1cmc
>>93362922It is because they didn't want to include fox and mole to the "tribal" lords of the set. Don't think too much about it.
What made All Will Be One's extra stuff so full of expensive cards compared to every other set released around it?
>>93362373BiGandra
>>93363554What card is that
>>93363672Kumano Faces Kakkazan
>>93363554Red needs it
>>93363708Red needs BIG RED cards. Fuck RDW.
>>93363708What Red truly needs is to die. I'm tired of this retarded brainlet Magic
>>93363228You'll eat those words when we return to Bloomburrow and he has the offspring mechanic.
>>93363723Play best of three and then sideboard cheap removal/sweepers
>>93363758>Big Red should only exist in Commanderyou the gayest nigga on earth
>>93363716I'm liking Season of the Bold for big red so far, there are a few good configurations. Lynx also seems nice for punishing other midrange piles. I'm also testing with Byway Barterer to see how it compares with stuff like Phyrexian Dragon Engine.
(you)
>>93363789or what, hotshot? gonna cry?
>>93363789>big red has been SHIT for years in standard, modern and PioneerThat's exactly my complaint?Genuine question. If all you care about in MTG is playing as little as possible, why bother playing at all? Why not just offer your opponent a coin flip before the game starts and declare the winner of the coin flip as the winner of the game?
>>93363500this dude wants you to believe the deck on the left is more fair than the deck on the right LMAOOOO
>>93363834>SSSYes. It is inherently more honest than SSS.
>>93363834me on the left
>>93363834Ramp isn't aggro ;^)
>retard wants to rule zero the colour red altogether>redirects anons to edh
>>93363834>SSSInsta enter the unfair bullshit trash tier.Nothing can compete with such absolute design mistake.
>>93363851>>93363890>"dishonest bullshit">dies to removall-lol...??
I just wanted to play with my old bros again...
>>93363913So does everything on the left?
I have never, ever played MTG before, seen a couple videos recently and I'd like to try it. I see that Arena is free, but mixed reviews on steam. Would I be fucking up trying this game out on that platform?
>>93362904here your fox, courtesy of /edh/
>>93363913>Dies to removal>Is OkLOL LMAO EVENWe have a WotC designer here!! Ask something!
>>93363940That was exactly my point, you fucking moron. "Fairness" only exists in matters of exchange, not in how "strong" a single card is. You would know this if you actually played the game, but you don't. You play MTGA and then shit up /mtg/ with your inane bullshit. Eat a dick.
>>93363949If you've never played before, Arena is probably the best way to get into the game.
>>93363829Should all decks be 59 lands and one bear? So that you can play the most magic per game?
>>93363949genuinely just find a local shop to go to in the evening and ask if they have anyone that would teach you the gamethey have little premade booboo bullshit new player decks made for literally this exact purpose
>>93363955We appreciate you exposing your utter lack of MTG knowledge with this post. Thanks.
>>93363950>we want the furry audience>also it draws cards and cheats on manaEvery time I consider getting into edh, I see a reminder of why I haven't.
>>93363949I would say dont play. It's only getting worse over time
>>93363959You're the only person that's put an arbitrary time constraint on games of Magic. You're going to need to come up with a better strawman to dig yourself out of this hole.>>93363949The mixed reviews will be people complaining about a rigged shuffler. Arena's a fine way to learn the rules.
>>93363958Alright thanks!>>93363960I'd rather kill myself then interact with human beings in person thanks
>>93363964You haven't made any counterarguments, you've just bitched and moaned. Do NOT reply to me in the future. We all know that you're a Standard MTGA player who's upset that you're getting cockblocked by the autoshuffler and not the actual game itself, because you're not playing real Magic. You're playing a gacha game. Go fuck yourself. You've certainly got a huge enough cock to do so.
>>93363987Should a 1cmc 10/10 be printed? Yes or no.
>>93363979oh i seeget the fuck out of here then, we dont want you herekill yourself
No, because the 10 toughness is the problem, not the 10 power. STOP replying to me you absolute dingaling. You have a massive cock, go play with that since MTGA is currently punishing you for not buying enough gems.
Just play the good decks lol
>>93364003But it dies to Go For Throat, so it's fine right? It's fair. By your own assertion.>trying to get the last word and disengage because you can sense you're on the ropes by not quoting melol you're a walking meme
>>93363949My advice is to avoid every TCG, I'm not being ironic here, just ignore every single TCG on the market, none of them are actually good games.
Lightning Bolt is the metric for removal, not Go for the Throat. You'd know this if you played real Magic. The fact that you can't follow simple instructions (DO NOT REPLY TO ME) shows how incompetent you are. You don't know how this game works. You don't know what the standards are despite being a Standard Arenababby. Go back to /vg/.
>>93364018I accept your concession. I can feel the heat off your cheeks at the sheer embarrassment of having been exposed this hard. You can't stop replying, because your ego is hurt.
>>93364018it really isntfatal push is the standard for removal
>>93364018Your so fucking mad right now its hilariousSSS apologists get the fucking rope
>>93364018Not part of this argument but "dies to removal" is a meme for a reason.
>>93364018absolute fucking retard you should probably kill yourself after all you die to removal too?
>>93363975Your argument was playing fast equals less magic. Im saying that amount of time playing doesnt mean more or less magic. I usually play aggro or control so either way is fun
If you think about, we all die to removal too.
>>93364069>Im saying that amount of time playing doesnt mean more or less magicThat's a really stupid thing to say.
>>93364075Not me, im norin the wary
>>93364078Portal 1 is a better game than portal 2 despite portal 2 being longer. I enjoy my time more in portal 1 than in 2.
Niggas ITT unironically say that winning the game through fast creatures and damaging spells is dishonest
You're supposed to win through big creatures and durdly spells.
>>93364075rn im a lovestruck beast without my 1/1 bro
>>93364075I am plotted.
>>93364099Old people need to learn that dishonest gameplay is gameplay I can't respond to not some wombo combo no one gives a fuck about. I don't give a shit that the old definition of fairness was playing by the rules and unfairness was using Living End or Goryo's Vengeance. The new definition of fairness is playing with a card that I can respond to. I can't respond to plots, which make them unfair. You boomers with your Oldtimers disease can't seem to grasp that.
>>93364088This is a terrible comparison because Portal 2 is the better game.
>>93364099your 2 mana creature isnt supposed to hit me for 12 in the air without any opportunity costit just isnt fairif there was some risk being taken id get it, but if i try to fight you over it you just have tamiyos safekeeping effects to protect it from removal that pump it even higher, making me have at minimum 2 killspells to 2 for 1 myself
>>93364075>sipsNah senpai, i'm dancin'
>>93364139The humor hits better in 1 and the level design doesn't get stale like it does in 2.
Boggles is fair and im tired of pretending it isnt
>>933641672's level design is ten times better than the first. I'll give you the humour though.
>>93364171I remember the last time I played against bogles lurrus was still legal in modern
>>93364167I think the greater variety of characters makes 2 hit better in some ways, but some bits drag on too long. Portal 2 also seemed afraid to be silent, whereas 1 just had long gaps of nobody talking to you.
>>93364178>>93364167To be fair i would consider both great games.
>>93364179The last time i played against it kci was legal
this is the type of people who seethe at SSS and why they don't deserve any you>you played a creature, a pump spell and a protection spell, so if i use 2 removals i'm down a card, didn't lose life and only ruined your hand and turn, magic has been ruined beyond what cards like memory jar ever did lmao boomer
>>93364136You can't respond to creatures at instant speed? >>93364141Name one 2 mana creature that does 12 alone
>>93364192They're both pretty damn close to perfect. The difference is like a 9.5 vs a 9.8 imo.
>>93364201>>93364202We already humiliated you old man do you really want to go through this again? Post your Arena account name and I'll show you why SSS is bullshit donkey dick.
>>93364075Who cares.
>>93364201You're really back for another round after being shredded so completely earlier?
>>93364214I would suggest superliminal if you have not played it. Not as good but pretty solid.
>>93364197The last time I played against it was a couple of weeks ago because Bogles is still alive and well in Pauper.
>seething song into the void
I'm just going to say it.BLB fucking sucks, man.Fucked up the tribal by making it some shitty Party-like type groupings garbage. Rampant power creep means low-power sets get left in the dust rather than having some fringe playability.The story was shit. The setting had no depth.The art is soulless, but yeah sure it has cute animals so whatever I guess.It's just kind of shit. I don't like it.
>>93364232I haven't actually. First I've even heard of it. I'll give it a look-see, thanks.
>>93364280BLB finally made Teferi playable, and that alone is good enough for me.
Apologyst of SSS are literally the worst fucking Magic players in /tg/ and that's really a feature for all these faggots.
>>93364326bro just Push i->2W>Return three target SSSs from your graveyard to the battlefield.
>things than never happened
GUYS 4 SSS JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
Design wiseKiln Fiend >>>> SSS.Prove me wrong.
>>93361718Yeah, it's a brew, I'm not expecting it to be UB Scam. Obviously I'm running the usual control cards, but every stock 4cc list now is completely built around beanstalk which I don't want to run because of how incredibly homogenizing it is. It really bothers me how many cards in 'viable' legacy decks now are from the past couple of years.https://www.moxfield.com/decks/L6AdgpVYDUeq1-7P_DXpyA
>>93364341THEY WERE PROTECTED BY PLOT
>>93363969all formats are just cheating mana these days what are you on about
That's it. I'm printing proxies. I'm done with this bullshit.
THE GHOST OF THUNDER JUNCTION JUST BOMBED RUSSIA
>>93364360
>>93364371>>>93364360samefa g
>>93364376no i just posted in the edh thread after making that post>>93364370
oh no no no no no
Hey guys, what's goin-->/mtg/ having another melty... Nvm...
>>93364392And everything just for a single bird...
>>93364441robbedbut nadu is also making people boil
>Plot 1R flyinghe plots in a flyer he flies in a plotter haha
>>93364462>>93364462>>93364462
>ill call him a samefag!
>>93362398Also the transsexuals become slaves to the system providing them hormones and surgeries. Alienated from normal society they are devoted Janissaries of the Corporate-Party-State.The whole thing would make an excellent cyberpunk campaign plot if it weren't so tragically real.(See? I connected it back to TG!)
