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>>93371704>TQI know aggro ninjas are technically better, but playing a tempo or even a control variation of ninjas always brings me more happiness than rushing treasure tokens and going w i d e .
>>93371704This art is so shit.
>>93371704Now i'm become death, the destroyer of formats.Now seriously free her.
Sex with mice.
>TQI will make him work in a pioneer brew someday. If commander wasn't infested with trannies and the like I would consider playing him there.
>>93371704Someday he will have a home in Pioneer.
>>93371818Yeah sure he's an 8/4 for 4 with two upsides, but is that really all he does? :/
>>93371818Run Naya with a bunch of indestructible effects maybe
It's Bloomburrover
>tqalways and forever
>>93371704the absolute bro of every 5c enjoyer.
>>93371799Why do you like the gay incest dragon so much?
>>93371704>TQ>Favorite 4-drop?Mirrodin's block Armageddon.
>>93371878Because he's into gay incest you faggot.
>>93371907I love this card for no other reason than it makes EDH trannies who spam Treasure/Clue etc. tokens fucking SEETHE.
>>93371918It was glorious against Affinity slaves.
>>93371799I spent 30 minutes and all I can conclude is that there's so much Rakdos/Mono-B bullshit in Pioneer that trying to make a Grixis deck is futile.
>>93371878Because being able to actually run a scary evil dragon as your wincon is dope and grixis is my favorite color combo
>>933720053-colore decks are really hard to make work with the actual meta you need something really powerful like Amalia or something like that to work.
>>93372059>mono: OKAY!>dual: OKAY!>tri: NO!!!>domain: OKAY!what the fuck format is this pioneer shit
>>93372074this is what happens without fetches
>>93372090how is domain viable without fetches? how are people pulling off hidden strings, quintorius, and niv to light?
>>93372074The best constructed format nowadays?I mean the consistency will always be capital in any constructed format.
>>93372095>best constructed format>vampires>phoenix>pumping amaliaNO!!!
>>93372094it just werksbrute forceformat is slow enough they wont be assraped by turn 5 most cases
>>93372101>Compared that with Nadu, Grief, the nightmare of all formats, shit like energy or a horror like EldraziYou sound just like a Memedern butthurted faggot anon.
>>93372101UW control rapes Amalia, the numbers are skewed bc of the Deluge bug.
theres nothing actually wrong with energy, i dont care what you guys hate about it
>>93372094>QuintYou kill before it ramps and cast the elephant or you lose>HiddenYou kill it before he has two lotus or you lose>NivLike any control you kill it before he has a board or you loseSimple as.
Any good frog cards spoiled today?
>>93372074>tri: NO!!!WRONG
>>93372074>>93372101>NO!!!I'm taking this for future posts.
>>93372137rhystic study on a frog in one of the precons
>>93372137>bloomburrow>goodpick one and only one, anon
>>93372156Homie didn't even mention bloomburrow, let zhim enjoy frogs
>>93372118>UW control rapes AmaliaOnly me can touch my wife, leave her alone.
>>93372167Made for pumping.
>>93372159>spoiled todaythe only spoilers happening are bloomburrow ones, come on.
>>93372167She's taking half-fae dick, sorry, anon.
>>93372175anon kellan is the poster
>>93372180I was gonna say Kellan doesn't know what a computer is but he actively uses a shitty early Izzet-made computer-like device in MKM so he could probably grok a computer if he went to Kamigawa.
>>93372186Should've omenpathed to Duskmourn's, they have better tech there.
>>93372202Eh, their tech-level pre-Ascension was high, but it's unclear how much of what's left is all that good. There's screens and maybe communicators, but probably nothing anywhere near as advanced as Kamigawa has.
>>93372202IT'S NOT TECH, CHUDMAGIC HAS NO TECH
>>93372167>puts your waifu in a porcelain chastity cagenothing personel kellan
>>93372290>cage>not belt
>>93372074>>933720944/5c is effectively saying>my mana is going to be slow and clunky, but I'm going to do some broken shit nobody else gets to do1/2c is saying>my mana is good therefore I get to do whatever specific thing I choose very well3c is in this weird place where your mana doesn't feel good but the payoffs aren't as broken as 4/5camalia is basically the only exception to this, if you try to make a generic 3c deck, you just feel like you're doing something worse than 4/5c without the consistency of 1/2c
BAN triomesBAN dual landsYOU WANT TO PLAY 2 COLOR YOU WAIT UNTIL T3YOU WANT TO PLAY 3 COLOR YOU WAIT UNTIL T4YOU WANT TO PLAY 4 COLOR YOU WAIT UNTIL T5YOU WANT TO PLAY 5 COLOR YOU WAIT UNTIL T6
>Bloomburrow 27 Legendaries out of 151 creatures spoiled.>Outlaws 51 Legendaries out of 158 creaturesAnother thing to love from this set
How did you find a deck that just "clicks" for you? Was it a mechanic, a color combination, or a tribe that caught your attention, or do you play whatever is best in whichever format you're a part of? I got into Golgari because of Dredge, but as Dredge shifted more blue for a long while, I lost interest in the mechanic and went back to the colors.
>>93372414OTJ was always gonna be an outlier.
>>93372118>>93372167>teferi and the wandering emperor going to town on Amalia together while her players watchH-hot
>>93372340Based basic land enjoyer.
>>93372424It didn't have to. Sets filled with legendaries have become too regular. DMU can be considered an outlier but LCI wasn't so long ago and is close to OTJ.
>>93372490The average is somewhere between 25-35, and probably will trend a bit downwards towards more like 15-20-ish if their talk about actively pushing the numbers of legendaries down is true. OTJ, by that logic, is an outlier. Though it has no real mechanical reason to be an outlier, it had no legendary subtheme or anything, etc.
>>93372507>it had no legendary subtheme or anythingexcept for the enchantments that need legendary creatures to enterthats a big one
>>93372527A single cycle of rare cards isn't much of a theme, but fair, it did have those. Nothing else in the set that cared about legendaries, and even on the angle of it being a showcase sort of set to have a bunch of people from across Magic in it, they also just had a bunch of literally random nobodies.
>wants as many 4/4 and bigger on the board as possibleshouldnt you be winning if you got tons of 4/4 on the board?
>>93372167She looks like she fucks faeries.
>>93372551apparently this card is fake
>Dragonhawk, Fate's Tempest>Dragon + hawk>Depicts a hawk with kolagan brood wings>Fate's Tempest>Uses lightning breath strikes>It is there by pure coincidence What a shit name
>>93372559She actually do it.
>X, Y's Z
>>93372566No, it's real. It was previewed in an email yesterday or something.
>>93372578We actually don't know why it's there. It's technically a sign of bigger things in the broader story, but the epithet is a bit terrible regardless.
>X, the Y Z
>>93372578>>93372585for me it's this guy
>>93372340They seldomly use double and triple pips, and have the audacity to keep making hybrid mana. Just look at this degenerate enabler. Disgusting.
>X, Y of Z
>>93372585>>93372597They already used "X", so they'll need to do something like this if he comes back.
>>93372340>>93372609I would be fine with dual-lands and triomes if they weren't also basic land types. The absolute fucking degeneracy of a triome not only being fetchable but also counting towards domain is bullshit insanity.
>>93372622we had typeless triomes and they were unplayable, so
>>93372601>we are monitoring the situation
>>93372629No cycling tho
>>93372629Where's the cycling?
interestingly, shocks are exempt from having the reminder text telling you what colors it can tap for on special versions, because i guess it is assumed if you are buying that you already understand what the card doesthis treatment is not given to triomes, which have reminder text on all versions>>93372638>>93372645pedanticyes, it was yet another way they were extra powercrept, but the cycling is so very rarely relevant in real magic, like one in 10 gamesjust like the mh3 fetches being strictly powercrept panoramas
>>93372617How do people know what number X is???
>>93372651X is 10, you'd know this if you learned about the Roman Republic.
So now that we know the whole BLB set, Heartfire Hero is really the only good card, huh?Maybe Jackdaw Savior. Maybe.
>>93372695None of you apes have card evaluation skills worth a damn so it's all up in the air.
>>93372651I don't know, but apparently people have been drawing a lot cards without paying him energy lately and he's fucking pissed!
Ze Amerikans won't stand a chance against mein HAMSTERSPHERE
>>93372695What about convoke serpent, Cheater weasel, Storm otter, all the Prowress shit and the Mouse bard that can go infinite?
>We have to make the funny animal cards weak and designed-for-commander in case they overshadow the 50 strong black women coming in duskmourn
>>93372695Cruelclaw, there are enough green stompy cads that it *may* become a thing outside of limited. Whiskervale Forerunner can be built around clones, it has potential too.
>>93372730Convoke serpent is just ok. I don't think it is nearly as good as people think it is.
I'm glad the set isn't powercrept, I said the same about MKM but then Pick you Poison and Leyline became multi format staples so who knows at this point.
So is Sorin a bat because he entered Bloomburrow or because as a vampire he can just be a bat sometimes?Also how is he holding that sword?
>>93372695I think Mice will have an impact on Standard post rotation at least. Prowess also seems to get some better cards now.
>>93372752Bats have opposable thumbs, dingus.
>>93372749Idk, it took Leyline and Invasion and Trailblazer to make up for the Karn ban. But then again, it spawned Temur/Jund lands so I get the point.
if you really think any card from bloomburrow will see real play outside of standard you are delusional.
>>93372772>outside of limited*
>>93372767I still feel like a bat's thin little arm wouldn't be able to hold a big metal sword, much less swing it
>>93372779It's bound to have some impact in standard.
>>93372786And a tiny mouse lady shouldn't be able to use a sword since she's just a weak woman, but you didn't complain about Cragflame, dingus.
>>93372703I love this thing, even if it is blatantly a Myr Battlesphere clone.
>>93372786it's a magically lightened type of alloy
>>93372772The dew drop will slide right into Amalia Benavidez Agüirre.
>>93372779Of course we'll see BLB cards in standard, standard after rotation is only, uh, wow 11 sets, that's more than I was expecting. but some of those sets are really small.
>TQMy beautiful wife.I want her back in Standard.
Is this better or worse than just having AI art?
>>93372854You'd have to be BRAIN DEAD to like this shit LMAO
>>93372854It's ugly as sin is what it is.
>>93372854>With its BUZZWORD BUZZWORD style, these BUZZWORD cards will BUZZWORD BUZZWORD your gameplay!
>>93372854This collective of individuals someone manage to be bigger fartsniffers than the artfags they rebel against.
>>93372854The tattoos are beyond redemption.
>>93372854I just checked out the brain dead website. They're trying to sell these glasses for $300 and also something called "4th dimensional fragrances"I welcome our AI overlords, artists shouldn't exist.
>>93372732clearly it shows that commander is better
>>93372887>the collective was an AI pretending to be a collective
>>93372795Well Cragflame isn't metal, it's a tooth. I'm not an expert mind you, but I feel like a sword made of tooth would be lighter than a sword made of metal
>>93372854HORRIBLE
>>93372795>And a tiny mouse lady shouldn't be able to use a sword since she's just a weak womanyou must be so fun at parties, oh wait, no one invites you to those
>>93373025How many times have you been laid for defending women?
>>93371704>TQ>Favorite 4-drop?The GOAT.
>>93372732Commander is responsible for powercreep AND for cards being too weak.
>>93371704>Favorite 4-drop?Pestilence of course, pure style
>>93372340this is what degraded pauper btwwhen the manabase was 3 karoo lands, 3 terramorphic expanse instead of 4 bridges 2 snow duals, the format was much better
>tq
>>93373240Nuh... guhh...??>confused_anime_girl_47.png
>>93373107That's a 3-drop though.
>>93372732The best card in Modern is a bird although the best card in Legacy is still a black person.
>>93373628Ignore the face what color are his arms.
no one plays pioneer. quit shilling your shit format.
>>93373813>T.butthurted memedern faggot still angey he has to deal with birds and energyLol, lmao even
I am evaluating a lot of black cards for the Black Hole brew.Noticing this is an instant, it's gone up quite a few notches. It's pretty ridiculous honestly.
The Foretell is also noteworthy for being instant speed removal that skirts around Lili +1s. A spicy card, it's slotted in for now at the expense of Rankle's Prank.Prank being able to also force two discards was solid, but its sorcery speed has left me miserable several times already.
Youre retarded
>>93372854collective(ly shit)
>>93373813but everybody will play pioneer 2
>>93371818>God>dies to Fatal PushI tried running him in World Tree Scapeshift, but he's just worse than all the other GR gods.
hamster
>>93374181Oh sweet we're returning to Lorwyn, I can't wait to play standard again with my old Flame-kin buddies alongside>checks notesthe Death Race set and the Space Opera set?
>>93374245DOTHINGDRAWCARD
>>93374245based group hug
>"But what's the significance of instant speed?!"You might ask, if you're retarded. The significance is manlands and vehicles. They are more difficult to interact with than other threats, so the more we can secure ourselves against them the better. Tergrid's Shadow did pretty well in some quick tests. The utility of Foretell is surprising, dodging late game thoughtseizes, tucking itself out of reach of our own Lili +1s. Lots of potential, might even find its way into a 2-of slot.Aside from that, the Sideboard feels solid now. I'm still meandering between Bile Blight and the Ratchet Bomb bros. Blight has more universal potential, but Ratchet does its specific job better.And, of course, why the fuck wasn't Meathook in here earlier. What a ridiculous card. Adds even more random life gain, it's a decent enough fast board wipe and even can chop its way through huge threats in the late game, if it needs to. Welcome aboard, you cold blooded murder spree!
3 mana ramp two basics is... pretty solid?
More universe within reprints.
>>93374320how does this deck win
>>93374421win?
13 dollar reprint for a serious set.
More duo cards.
This will make or break Bird tribal in standard.
>>93374421Usually?Prof. Onyx ult.But also?Removing all their threats and waiting until they die of old age.It's surprisingly effective.
Chaos warp's preview art is set in New Cappena and commander art is set in Neo Kamigawa.
>>93374553I don't particularly care.
>>93374568Nothing in this set is good lmao.
>>93374568>attacking or tappedJust in case Vigilance wasn't a trash enough keyword, I guess?What the fuck is wrong with these retards in charge of design?
>>93374456Some of the Duo flavour text is great, some is just eh. I like the Skyskipper one, the Daggerfang is... Not great.
>>93374553Wonder if the artist did a few versions of it or something. Or maybe it's just one of those cards with inexplicable alternate arts.
>>93374421>how does this deck winYou know it's a good deck when people have to ask that question.
pipe should behave like crimson guard but for magic damage
Oh, hey, a former Blizzard guy is WotC's new president. John Hight. Apparently he was one of the more well-liked Blizzard guys, so that's 'something'?https://x.com/JHight_Gamer/status/1814061838650470550
>>93374796>blizzardwhy are upper management positions so incestuous
>>93374808Nepotism and 'hiring people with experience'.
>>93374820ok but nothing will change if you keep hiring the presidents from other companies
>>93372854I thought being pretentious went out of style loooooooooong ago. must be a corpo moment, always behind the trend
One more contender for a prize piece of the deck, rather fitting given the Black Hole name.We have some mighty control pieces, but extreme fast starts out the gate can still smash through the cracks. Sphere of Annihilation may seem like an odd pick, given it sits around like a brick for an entire turn before doing anything.But I think it will do the job. Firstly, because that turn you're sitting around is a turn they are not able to play more fast threats out. I mean, if they want to feed the sphere they can, but it's a bad idea otherwise.Path to Peril would be the obvious choice for a similar option, but I think Sphere has a nice place. Its variability puts it a might bit higher than Sphere in my estimation, even if we have to face tank a full hit to reap the benefits. We're chads, we can take the hit. Coasting on 1-5 life is a premium feature of this deck.
Incidentally, maindeck Spheres mean we gain two sideboard slots back, as it trolls tokens in the same as Ratchet Bomb. Might keep the Ratchets for the extra coverage, but if anyone has any ideas for sideboard includes the slots are open now.
>chrome mox is $100
>>93375201>Cheaper than Edgar Markovlollmao even
>>93375230but he is unplayable trash
>>93375066i cast Rakdos Charm, you take uhhhh 400 million damage from insect tokens or whatever
Does Wizards even care about player retention anymore?
They turned one of my favorite cards of all time into a shitty "funny reference" squirrel tribal commander card. It already pissed me off that they were putting squirrel tribal into a standard set before even putting Grist in one, let alone insect-exclusive tribal, but this takes it to a whole 'nother level.
>>93375420did they ever?
>>93375420why would they
>>93375420There's billions of suckers out there that they can scam into staying for a couple sets, why the fuck would they care about player retention?
>>93372752Why does this have to be a secret lair. Sorin was the only one I wanted to get
>>93375420Mark Rosewater always talks about how the average player stays around for 2 years.
>all great art cards I like have gay effects or colors I don't playsasuga wotc
>>93375469On paying closer attention I've realized that a lot of the Bloomburrow art that I liked is actually secret lair and not normal card art. This makes it a lot easier for me to continue to not give any money to Hasbro (though in this case I might give the chinaman a call because I enjoy a lot of these cards).
>>93375439if word of mouth goes from "magic is a cool game" to "magic is a scam" itl'l probably be way harder to get people into the game
>>93375589Won’t happen. TCG players love being abused.
>>93374764much love
>>93375472ok so imagine all those boomers that have been playing 10+ years. that REALLY puts into perspective how little time some people have to spend with this game to balance it out to 2 yearsit's not even 5 years to halve it out, but 2. only an average of 2 means most people are playing way WAY less than that
>playing turbo-mill>opponent wins with zero (0) cards in their library
>>93374374Anon that's five mana
>>93375754These are the standard cards that will help you get two lands on turn 3 with the forager getting you two mana.
My LGS is relocating and they are selling booster boxes for 20% off. I skipped SNC, should I get a set display for $80 mainly for getting Triomes?
i was on my way home today and i found a misprint artist proof of bloomburrow karn. how much do you think he’ll go for? picrel
Bloomburrow is unironically flawless after all. It's amazing how good a modern MtG set can be if you decide to not make the race-baiting and social commentary a cornerstone of your design.
>>93376185The art is good but mechanically it's overdesigned, parasitic and bland.>dude a very specific set of tribes>dude legendary creatures with shoehorned in second and third colours>dude 10 lines of text on every card>dude m15 frame
>>93371704Mr Fox
Any Premodern enjoyers here? I was thinking of putting together an 8 deck battlebox and I'm looking for input as to which 8 decks to build.
>>93376255>a very specific set of tribesKino>legendary creatures with shoehorned in second and third coloursAll the two-colour creatures are reasonable and there are only 3 three-colour creatures>10 lines of text on every cardYou are a grown-ass man, read the fucking card text.>m15 frameZoomie LARPing as a boomer again.
kys
>>93374436Cool I have two nadu now
>>93371704Whats the term for a format that is designed to capture a specific time period in magic (AKA Oldschool, Premodern, PreDH) ? Throwback format? Retro format? Any kind of community consensus on what these are called?
>>93371818It infuriates me that a 8/4 for 4 with nothing but upsides isn't even playable anymore. Back in my day that thing would have blown up all your lands and we still would've played him.
>>93376490S H I T.
>>93376785False. Premodern is objectively the best constructed format that exists.
>>93376800Shoebox Constructed is best format.
>>93376943Does your shoebox have a ban list
>>93376984Voracious Cobra because First Strike Deathtouch is some bullshit.
I want to pair red with some color but I can't decide between rakdos, gruul or boros...Which one is doing well this set?
>>93376988>>93376943Post a shoebox deck if youre at home
>>93377004BLB looks to have a great Boros archetype, the mice seem pretty good.
>>93371704No Kungfu Panda?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5onNnmmYhTU
>>93375429What is it a reference to? Squirrels aren't a "reference", they're an animal.
>>93374515if this was played in Standard, so will the hummingbird
>>93377004Go with the courageous mice.
>>93377137So the cost reductions don't stack?
>>93377186If you control a spirit and an enchantment, it costs U.
>>93377194THEN WHY CHANGE THE FUCKING TEMPLATING
>>93377006
>>93377201Literally what?
>>93376185Looks like yet another agro go wide bullshit in limited. Also, kinda sad that we are getting just a month of it before AI-generated-nightmares-set in limited.Hope I'm wrong, I like a lot of green and black creatures.For the love of god, the new captcha is a mess.
>>93376185Bloomburrow is fucking ass in powerlevel. Why make an incredible set, but then make almost all the cards not poweful enough? I can bet Duskmourn instead will have tons of broken shit with dogshit art.
>>93377394It's a Standard set, anon. You are free to wait for MH4.
>want to sell some cards online>the "become a seller" page is a 404Amazing. EU strikes again.
>>93377460You're really completely oblivious about the massive worldwide computer outrage going on because Ranjeesh Patel pushed out a forced Windows update that's causing a BSoD loop preventing the update from being rolled back? Hospitals banks and airports have been affected lmao.
>>93377468It's been a thing on Cardmarket for over 6 months.
BLB boxes will probably be a good speculative hold even though it's a set full of draft chaff, I think it'll have a lot of collector interest
>>93377221How is the weather in Australia this time of year
>>93376282build the cheap onessligh and BW control are must includeothers include pit rack, the rock, goblins, suicide black, landstillmadness is the most expensive you should getdon't get combo decks or stiflenought because they're not worth it whatsoever
>>93377545and honestly madness is only expensive due to gilded drake sideboard tech against stiflenought, so you can actually make it really cheap
>>93377221>Stopped playing during champions of kamigawaYou should not try to return, mate>>93377201Templating should be the least of our problems.How you like pitch black lorwyn elves and humans in it?
>https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6452368#paperHey Pioneerbros, how can I get some more lifegain into a deck like this? I'm considering some kind of food package but I'm not sure.
>>93373813It's the only good format. Standard is baby sized and modern and under is all horizons shitshow.
>>93377648I like virtue of persistence
>>93377648Golgari is not that famous for his lifegain, maybe i would make some changes like the Ferox or the cult conscript or even the puppeteers for Deathrite shamans that have a lot of uses
>>93376743game is in an absolutely fucked statethey learned their lesson from Theros I - trying to turn down power creep leads to worse sales. modern horizons proved the opposite is true: power sells.
>>93377645I still play, this is just an old deck I have in my box of bullshit where a few buds just threw in some old decks to pull out if we feel like playing jank. This one is from back in the day when sleeves only came in 50 and we didn't know that before buying 3 colors so we just shuffled the sleeves along with the deck and then sleeves those so your cards aren't marked by color.
>>93377713>trying to turn down power creep leads to worse sales. modern horizons proved the opposite is true: power sells.Fortunately, Bloomburrow seems relatively low powered compared to most recent sets other thank MKM, and also seems extremely popular so it'll probably sell well. Maybe they'll finally learn that good art, good aesthetics, and good mechanics can make up for a lack of powercreep.
>>93377729this is adorablehonestly, this level of play is what arena is perfect for. just do the 2 color free decks thing.
>>93374870Bold of you to assume they want things to change.
>>93377244Ignore him, he complains about objectively correct templating all the time.
>>93377729Soul.
>>93377709The 4 drops really just exist to be freely curved into with Hunstman's Redemption (and I'm too cheap to shell out for Sheoldred's who I think should eat a ban personally). I think if I were to move into a food package of some kind I could cut redemptions and all the 4 drops, but puppeteers synergize really nicely with the Dreadknights. Kinda a puzzle
>>93377648>>93377709We had an entire set where golgari was the life gain archetype.
ward should be removed for the turn once its paidit shuoldnt trigger multiple times
>kappa cannoneer affinity flopped >Crabvine is positioned like shit because other much better decks are GY focused so there's hate aboundBros...
>>93378004Crabvine was the last chance for Dredge/Delve to be good again, anons... It's the whole archetype dead?
>>93377963That's witherbloom, not golgari. They're completely different.
>>93371704T1 Plot Demonic RuckusT2 Plot Highway RobberyT3 Plot Visage BanditT4 Play Stormsplitter, play Visage Bandit, play Highway Robbery, play Demonic RuckusNot great but I think it can be iterated on
>>93378017Dredge will still win against people who don't sideboard for it (retards). This is the way it's always been.
Anons, what do you do with your leftover commons (which you have more than 4)? I'm contemplating making some newbie decks from them just to give my non-mtg friends for free.
>>93378119Put them in a box and give them to the newest kid at the lgs.
>hype up the big wolf in all the art and promo material>get super excited for mythic mono red wolf>not even in the main set, its a shitty fucking commander cardFUCK YOU WOTC FUCK YOU WOTC FUCK YOU WOTC FUCK YOU WOTC FUCK YOU FOR MAKING ME CARE ABOUT THIS SET AND KEKING ME AT THE LAST SECOND
>>93378139>Gruul calamity beast>Fucking CummanderAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>93378139>get super excited for mythic mono red wolfsame, what a bummer
>>93372629Saw play in standard
>>93377648>Hey Pioneerbros, how can I get some more lifegain into a deck like this? I'm considering some kind of food package but I'm not sure.The black virtue is a very solid 1-of.I also have grown fond of a 1-of March of Wretched Sorrow. It does surprising work in the late game, easily sucking up 8+ life to stabilize.Since you're fairly heavy on permanents, Seed of Hope may be a good option for quick filtering and some life gain. Might have to drop a few more nonpermanent spells to get it more reliable though. Candy Trail has served me alright and proved to be not the worst card in the universe, but it's not incredible.Courser of Kruphix is surprisingly not awful.
>>93378139
>>93378260Accurated for nowadays Magic indeed
MORE BREWS INCOMING.This one's less of a full fresh brew and more of a meta twist. I think it's a fun one for people who like off-meta options.
rakdos or boros?Idk if I can make use of Cruelclaw... I'm too low IQ for that
>>93378260Sad but based (not accurate because modern is the second format, would be accurate for pioqueer and standard)
>>93378444Check those trips on the chef.
>nobody wants to buy into nadu because obvious ban is obvioua>This makes the %rate lower>Nadu doesn't get bannedEpic.
>>93378672What about drafts?
Where the yawgbros at? Need to convene with the fellas keeping the yawgdream alive about Birthing Ritual. You using it? How does it feel? What's been the good feels, the bad feels?
>slickshot already pushed out of modernDamn that was fast.
>>93378889>look at top 7 cards without having to do anything repeatedlyIts so consistent its not funny. If it wasnt a turn slower than Nadu it'd be the best creature combo deck in the format.
>>93378209Some of those look pretty good, thanks brother
>>93378951I've found that resolving this bad boy secures me so many matches it's not even funny>Goryo's I'm going to find the jailor or Endurance in one, maybe two peeks. Or set up for a chord by saccing a young wolf to suddenly have three bodies for chord off of getting a Apprentice or Bowmasters. >JeskaiIf they didn't counter the ritual, they can watch as we play entirely off the ritual. >BurnProsperous Innkeeper laughs, and keeps laughing.Barring Nadu, what else did you find difficult? For me, Mardu Energy just puts too much on the board to deal with.
>>93378984I dont play the deck unfortunately, but my roomate did before hopping on the jeskai train, so we go over lists a lot.And im a dirty Mono B Necro player, my only advice is Greatness, at any cost
>>93379017Mono B necro put the fear of Sheoldred back in me, it's one of those matchups where I have to Bowmaster and pray...What are some strong sideboards against you from a golgari standpoint? Aside from Thoughtseize.
>>93379048Sheoldred plus necro is fucking dumb as shit, I could not believe what I was watching when I first played against it
>>93379092>"Yeah I'd like to draw most of my deck, gain one limbillion life, and throw every single soul spike printed at your face. Responses?"
>>93379048Enchantment removal is still great to hold up, just destroy necro before their end step. If you really wanted to stop the scam part you could do graveyard hate. But ive won games just controlling the board and swinging in with a Boggart Trawler. You really need to kill everything they throw down or grind it back on them with a better board
>>93378889This is just a worse birthing pod. I miss birthing pod.
>>93371704I have a question for the thread. Is anybody else feeling like most of the cards released recently are really boring from a design point of view? I stopped playing MTG for a few years now besides the occasional commander match here and there, but I always come back for spoiler season and most of the cards feel like cards they have released before, but with one or two words changed in minimal ways. It just feels so boring and uninteresting, even disregarding stuff like art direction. I just don't want to play any of these new cards, because I've played them before, several times even.
So, Ensoul Artifact proved to be a very fun deck when I tested it. It's a real riot. Felt like I wanted to contribute to the brew, started cracking at it.The first thing that caught my eye is one of my all time favorites: Tough Cookie. What a brick house, this fucker is. Six potential life gain in a pinch, 6/6 stat line for 1G and... Oh! Well doesn't that activated ability fit into Ensoul perfectly!So I started fiddling with Simic Ensoul Cookies. Gilded Goose replaced Epicure effortlessly. More importantly, we get Tamiyo Compleat in simic. Turns out being able to whip Ensouls out of the grave for a second go is preeeeeeeetty good. She may not end up making the cut in the long run, but locking down blockers while reanimating Ensouls is one hell of a clean way to secure otherwise stalled games.But I just kept running into a problem: We lose Shrapnel Blast. That's a big hit. Blast is a key murder weapon in Ensoul...But wait, we have tons of food now. We can probably sustain 4x Mana Confluence happily enough... and damn, Spire of Industry too, alongside Darksteel Citadels we already run. And fuck it, we're a hardcore aggro deck. If we're so slow in a game that we're dying to mana burn, we already fucked up. Well, what the hell! Let's just go for it.Temur Ensoul Cookies is here! This is an only very lightly tested work in progress for now. It shall only grow more refined with tests.
>>93379137Sheoldred really needed this buff. We really needed a better Necropotence.
Getting to play 12x 1-drops means Temur Cookies is brutally, brutally streamlined. Alongside the Darksteel Citadels, If we start Ensoul, it's going to land on turn 2. Held back, sadly, by Pioneer's garbage fire mana, but it's at least a 3c deck that can abuse some cheaty mana options to spread things out.Going to need a lot of testing to get the mana base feeling right. For now, I hope the thought of ensouling some gingerbread cookies can titillate you.
Bros I finally won against the Nadu player (historic brawl on arena). I had pic related in my opener so I figured I wouldn't scoop for the first time. It totally shut him down.I'm so happy. Thanks for reading my blog.
>>93379198>We really needed a better Necropotence.dominance is not better than potence
>>93377133It's a reference to Swarmyard, not sure how that was lost on you.
>>93371704I keep trying to buy the Bloomburrow commander set, but like three minutes after I place the order, I get this email... Does anyone know what's going on here? I made my account today and confirmed it and everything
>>93379440Divine intervention
>>93379440I had this issue too. The worst part is that it deletes your entire cart. Just send them an email. It might take a couple tries because they claimed they "fixed" my account but I still saw the issue. It took another email until they fixed it for real.TCGplayer definitely runs on outdated software
Offspring.
>>93379519>This shit AGAIN
>>93379519Ah, good, child soldiers. Just what Magic needed.Also that Prosperous Bandit is some Wallace and Gromit shit.
>>93379440I placed the order as a guest and that seemed to improve the issue.
>>93372854>NOW YOU'VE DONE IT YOU FREAK SHIT. YOU'VE FUCKED UP. YOU'RE BEING TRACKED BY THE GRID. THE EYE IN THE SKY IS WATCHING.
>>93371704There wasn’t a single centaur …Cowards
not an animal
>>93372854>Brain Dead is a creative collectiveThat's pretty generous. It's a collective but that's about all the credit I'd be willing to give it.
Is Season of the Bold the first instance of an instant/sorcery creating a delayed trigger that deals damage? It reads weird to me.
>>93379788I think there was something Kaldheim that was similar?
The UG list is a little less speed focused, but has its own kind of potency. Testing both, I think I like UG better for its consistency.More tests and brewing to come. I think UG is a great home for Ensoul honestly, Tough Cookie is a beast.
>>93379798Hm. Nevermind, I can't find what I'm trying to find at least. I'm sure there was something similar. It's still perfectly valid in the same way a creature with a death trigger is valid and any other "until end of turn" effect on an instant/sorcery is, but still.
>>93379788Deflecting Palm is kinda similar
>>93378260Based
>>93379821Very nice take on the archtype, I don't play Ensoul but this definitively looks tasty, Though Cookie quite the ingredient. Congratulations to the chef.
>>93372175They really pushed this femboy twink didn’t they?
>>93379917Still in testing, possibly more updates to come!Already feeling that Zoetic Glyph will have a comfier home in this, more of a midrange-y Ensoul, than it does in UR's more raw speed plan. Might drop the Stubs and rejigger things and see how it functions with Glyph having only decent things to hit.
>>93379933You gonna hate me for this, but you could go for the Simulacrum Synthesizer+Cryptic Coat engine.
>>93379958I do not hate you at all, it's a great idea and worthy of a test.
>>93379924I mean, he was a throughline character, and he only really mattered in two sets, story-wise. He was basically just 'there' in LCI and MKM.
>>93373616If you aren't playing birthing pod and activating it immediately you're a rube
>>93379298dominance isn't even better than ring lol
What format do you think the USSS plays?
>>93380154idk but cummander is trash and isn't magic, and digital magic is a scam for nothing in return so yeah
Bought a whole booster box today, wish me luck.
>>93379194>>93379238Looks sweet man, are the actual Triomes just too slow or what?
>>93379313because most people don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of 20 year old magic cards
>>93380226Aye. When you're a full aggro, taplands are no me gusta.
>>93380154Unblocked SlickShot Show-off?
Slickshot Show-off should be banned alongisde Amalia, Sorin and Treasure Cruise.Change my mind.
>>93380283Ban Fable before Sorin.But also, ban both.And hell yes to Cruise.Amalia is fine but ban Aetherflux.
>>93380198Which set
>>93380283I think they're likelier to ban Walker instead of Amalia. Walker makes Amalia almost too predictable. She'd still have a place in lifegain decks regardless, but it wouldn't be as nonsense without the combo.
I have lost to Amalia actually hitting me exactly zero (0) times.I have lost to Aetherflux many (>1) times. Amalia is not a broken combo. Aetherflux is a broken combo finisher.
>>93380293Ravnica remastered
>>93380283Maybe your mind can't be changed until more broken cards are released before the end of the year and all those cards pale in comparison to the broken shit just over the horizon.
>>93380238Most people here do
>>93380238>Not remembering the coolest defensive land of all timeI used to run a Swarmyard insect deck in modern back in the 2010s. Sure, it had a very low winrate, but when it did win, the seething was glorious.
General thoughts on Bloomburrow?
>>933803686/10Unforgivably shit mechanics. Bland flavor. Awful story. Shallow setting. Good art.
>>93380368I have difficulty evaluating it as a player and not as a furfag
>>933803687/10Weak powerlevel, obtuse mechanics, superb art, enjoyed the lore, fun plane hope we return sooner than later and it sells well.
>>93380368Looks pretty if its fun to draft thats all i care about so lets see
>>93380368It’s the first set I’ve been excited for in a long time. Detectives and cowboys sucked ass. There’s actually some creativity and artistry going on here at least. Hoping it plays well.
>>93380407I'm expecting draft to be solid this time around. You have Offspring as a mana sink and the Common 1-drops are looking anemic, so games can run longer. The most powerful Rares imo require building around the tribal synergies and the truly oppressive cards like Maha are in the Mythic slot.
>>93379238You can add hard evidence or similar (0/3 crab + clue token for U) for 16 1 drops
>>93380461I've said "the one drops don't look that good this time" every set for the past several years and every time I get blown out by someone whose curve tops out at 3. I'm leery.
>>93380479Ohhh fuck yeah bud I dig it. Huge suggestion, nice.
>>93380479You bamboozler! That's not Pioneer legal!
>>93380399>Weak powerlevelBy hwat metric?
>>93380506shit, sorry bro, forgot that manmade horrors are illegal in your format. As a pauper player - i wish we were so lucky...> captcha: G0YS H
>>93380368It might be better than what I'm willing to admit. The art is ok, gift and offspring look entertaining enough and the set is going to impact constructed if only because of rotations.
>>93380546
>>93379519>Animals fucking AND child soldiers in single mechanic
>>93380546we are about to be foundated
>>93380570>we are about to be foundatedOh boy I can't wait for all my brews to be rotated thanks Wizards!
I play commander, which bloomburrow commander should I invest in? I like the offspring mechanic but unsure if it's worth getting the family matters deck (not the colors I play) or the squirrels.
>>93380555why is all of your text marking as spelling error?
>>93380575>Insidious Roots, that card looks cool to build around.
The fact that WotC has had bad enough ideas in the past that Foundations isn't the worst idea they've ever come up with is mind blowing.
>>93380600Alt borders are an abomination.MKM's alt border was a special kind of abomination.
>>93380570>>93380575What makes you think Foundations will have anything game changer besides some reprint and new Standard level shit? So far the cards showed are Standard warping at best
>>93380617>What makes you think Foundations will have anything game changer besides some reprint and new Standard level shit?He says, talking about WotC, for some unknown reason assuming that WotC won't fuck everything up.
>>93380617Llanowar Elves and Day of Judgment are at least 'notable' for Standard, but nothing in Foundations so far seems like it'll do much for Pioneer. Granted we've only seen like five cards, and 3 are reprints that I think were already Pioneer legal except DoJ? No idea if something like Nine-Lives Familiar will do much anywhere. But we haven't remotely seen the full set, so I'm withholding judgement.
>>93380617it's their way of doing things, ruin them for everyone else
>>93380617We already know it's bringing a real 4 mana wrath and llanowar elves. Elves might amount to nothing because lol green but 4 mana on T3 enabler is going to see play in some form. And the wrath looming overhead makes this tribal set pretty piss poor. As if sunfall wasn't bad enough now you can't even try to aggro them before it hits since it's T4 wrath.
>>93380665That cat is both expensive and not even good. In fact Cauldron familiar, my boy, outshines it.
>>93380686DoJ is honestly not something that I feel will do a lot. Death triggers are so common that exile wipes are just more 'necessary'.
>>93372695Maybe Maha and Gurl spawn something.
>>93380686I can agree about it's impact in Standard specially if Convoke keeps living, but in Pioneer? Meh.
>>93372695Dewdrop Cure and Heartfire Hero, just about yeah.
>>93380283Apparently Memory Deluge is bugged, so UW isn't keeping Amalia down as well as it should.
whats the difference between skill and luck
>>93380846Skill is brewing your own deck.Luck is playing someone else's and it happening to be the top one.
>>93380586being an esl with windows set to native language? No idea honestly, for example "native" is a-ok here, so is "a-ok", but "honestly" is marked
>>93380846can't learn luck
>>93380846In the context of Magic skill is about minimizing the effects of poor variance and luck is having good variance.
>>93380846Skill=What i have when i winLuck=What you have when i lose
>>93380846I was gonna say >>93380959so I'll just second them. You need to know what luck looks like for your opponent, and set yourself up to be lucky.
>>93380846>SkillPlaying to your outs>LuckNot playing to your outs but getting the win anyways because you drew good.
>>93380846Skill is knowing when not to play your cards.Luck is playing them and winning anyway.
>>93380846Skill:What it takes to play a brewLuck:What people have normally playing Nadu, Amalia, Atraxa Domain...
>>93380846skill = knowing you might top deck it and playing to thatluck = just topdecking it whether you thought about it or not
>>93378804>Play boostersMate, Wotc doesn't care for draft and sealed.
For me? it's value boosters.
>>93381288Like the new Bloomburrow value boosters? :)))
>>93380846Luck is a skill.
>>93380846Luck is a natural force of the universe, skill is being able to read the flow of luck and capitalize on its ebbs and flows
>>93380368It's much better than the last couple of sets, a solid 4.5/10
>>93371704TQbest ogre comin' thru
>play standard and draft only in 2013-2014 then stop>resume playing in early 2023>play BUG in vintage vintage on MTGO>deathrite shaman mirrorIs this card ever going to be unbanned in other formats? I love it and I'm sad I never got to play with it there.
>>93380368Got my Karumonixes ready to start building rats day one. Probably also gonna try to make Lizards work.
>standard so kill rotation isn't a subject
>>93374408It doesn't count if it's reprinting a card with a generic name, only if they have to rename it like the Stranger Things tie-ins.
And one more update for Black Hole this time around. Might as well touch it up after the Ensoul Cookies action.-1 Stone Brain for more active pieces. The End picks up most of the extract slack, and as much as the first one or two Brains can make or break a game, we really don't want too many flooding our early hands.Orb of Annihilation is hilarious. Absolute nutter card, definitely doing exactly what I need it to. Plays incredibly into Fable too, as you can lay it down the turn before Fable flips and force them into an awkward position, unable to lay down more threats while they wait for the sphere to pop. Very happy with this include, plugs many holes that other fast board wipes in mono-black struggle to, and does so with extra versatility of an X cost rather than 1BB or 2BB or whatever.
>>93382115Some people want in-universe artwork so they can finally play the cards.
Last card to be spoiled strong in limited.
>>93381933probably not but you can play it in pioneer if you want to>>93382110what you posted is basically what I'm going to be playing after rotationdon't feel like touching standard before that, I fucking hate esper and domain
got so high I went on the arena general to post about my legacy league
>>93372854I like it, reminds me of sam hyde's art
>>93382491>>93382491>>93382491
>>93377394>"underpowered"it's everything sets should be and you're still complaining?
