Previous: >>93428779>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.net>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>how to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/Thread Question/Prompt: What's your favorite enchantment?
>>93435854It's just so fucking good every time it resolves
>TQUnironically, I started using this as a "maybe it'll be good" in a Rakdos Baeloth deck with Agent of the Shadow Thieves (I seriously struggle to find a good black background for him for leaning into Goad/Treasure, so that's good enough). Each time it's touched the board and I explained how it was gonna go>Each upkeep everyone gets X zombies where X is the number of creatures in their graveyard>my Baeloth by then usually has Hexproof or Indestructible or both>strong enough to goad them all>when they die attacking OR blocking, I get treasures>treasures easily pay for the upkeep cost>all of my other death trigger cards like Blood Artist and Massacre Wurm are going to pick up on itthey just scoop. I fucking love this thing. A lot like Uba Mask, I found it by happenstance while searching for obscure/old cards for themes I like.
Post em.
>>93435901where the fuck even has the cards in that low of resolutionthat jpg has more artifacts than esper
>>93435909damn, not quite up to par
>cut all my 1cmc mana dorks for 2-3cmc land ramp>a few moments later>cut my 2cmc land ramp for 2-3cmc mana dorksMy deck is so fucking bad.
>>93435915Where do you get your card images? After wotc shoa'd all the sites I just google it and save whatever.
>>93435909The battlecruiser is battlecruisin' for a battlebruisin'.
>>93435932I usually get them off scryfall like a normal person
>>93435932Scryfall, Archidekt, or Gatherer if you like shitty res artifacts
>>93435929why
>>93435909
>>93435976>well I'll just cut all these low cost dorks because they only give me one mana and then they die>land ramp is way more consistent even if it costs a little more mana, almost no one I play with fucks with lands and most land destruction spells are very inefficient so I'd still maintain a lead>well now I don't have any one-drop creatures but that's fine, I'm not making any big turn 3 plays>but now that I look at it, cards like somberwald sage and fanatic of rhonas only cost two or three mana but they can give me three or four mana backMy deck is very mana hungry.At this point I'd start reworking my deck so I could have Keruga as a companion, but I'm not in blue.
>>93436044Disgusting.
>>93435909Demon tribal is absolutely terrible sometimes
>>93436068I like castin spells
>>93436060everyone at your table is running bolt and doomblade for your llanowar elves? generally in green all you need is the 1 mana dorks and the 2 mana land ramp. everything else is just superfluous unless you really think spending 3-4 mana to make no meaningful impact on the board every turn is worth something sometimes the higher mana value super ramp spells or ones that can tutor out any land can be useful but they're more exceptions instead of the rule
>>93435932>wotc shoa'd all the sites The fuck are you talking about lmao
>>93436100>everyone at your table is running bolt and doomblade for your llanowar elves?Targeted damage on a stick, yeah. Plus it fucks me over when a board wipes leaves me way behind in mana when my cards are easily the most expensive at the table.
>>93436125what commander
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>93436100>I love never recovering from boardwipes and never getting manafix
>>93436149Pantlaza. Love my dinos.
>>93432835>once you lose control of him the initial time, your opponents would just pass him aroundthats what makes him a politics Commander, just like Ms. Bumbleflower. You have to make deals the first couple times you send him out, and people like to oblige because free card draw, he is basically a Santa Claus while actively contributing to the board. >how the hell do you build Khârn?later on it doenst matter so much on whose side of the table he is on, i run a lot of creature steal effects to get him back for the turn. You need those anyways just for the funny player who absolutely will attack you with "The Betrayer" each game he is in. good thing with steal is, that you can just grab any creature you like, i actually won one time by 21ing someone with his own commander. i also run a lot of goad, to make sure that buffed up Khârn wont bite my ass.the rest is basically normal voltron stuff, with attack trigger Equips - you still controll any Equipments attached on him, so you will get a good amount of value per rotation.With Jaxis out he becomes a 1 Mana Draw 2, probably the closest you can get to Ancestral Recall in mono Red. Picrel is probably the best equipment in the list, he obviously absolutely crumbles against heavy edict decks. He is my favorite deck to pull out against newer Players>my fav is henziei sadly slept on his precon, but a friend got him and he is very nice. He doesnt play anymore, maybe he will sell me his deck
>>93435909I have a friend who constantly complains about the format being too centered around ramp and that everyone ramps too much, meanwhile he only plays orzhov decks with an avg cmc of 2
>>93436438with jaxis he actually becomes 1 mana: discard 1, draw 3
>>93436447just like the average green haters seething about ramp, while they themselves abuse rituals and treasure generation, down to cheating costs. Suddenly they are colorblind
>>93436532They hate green for running 13 ramp cards, but then feel disgusted when you suggest they should run more than just 6 mana rocks.
>Voltron player kills one player, maybe 2>Never wins, ever.Justify the existence of voltron to me, this shit is so fucking awful conceptually.The existence of commander damage in general is fucking annoying because if your commander does a thing and incidentally pumps himself then people will just kill him simply for having a lot of power even though thats not your game plan at all.So many commanders Ive wanted to build, but all of them had this problem where if you do your thing 2 or 3 times they get 7 power and a switch flips in your opponents heads to target that commander no matter the game state.Having a high power commander is basically a liability.
>>93435940too fucking low of a curve, literally cEDH
>>93436570Commander damage is intended to keep people honest. With 40 life and three opponents, it's very hard to kill someone with pure combat damage but early in the format commanders like Rafiq did a lot to stop people from pillow forting because you only need to hit them two or three times. Much like how aggro often isn't the best deck in any format but its existence means every deck needs to at least be cognizant of their speed and ability to play to the board, commander damage means you can't just ignore your opponent entirely.
>>93436570i play voltron because it is not easy
>super spike in limited>will only play the most larpy Boros in EDH
>>93436636i wanted to build him after dissassembling Greasefang to house all my vehicles, but he wants anything but actual Vehicles to drive
What's a good way to keep the power level of a deck in check? I'm not used to playing Commander but my friends want me to play with them and I don't want to go balls to the wall kill you all on turn 2 but I don't want my deck to be weak either. I'm not sure how to manage the balance in a casual format, I'm too competitive normally. Maybe I'll just do something stupid like this
>>93436658What do you mean? He wants nonland permanents, not non-vehicle permanents. You can absolutely crash land a normal car.
>>93435909Yuriko 1.85 with lands and 2.82 without Derevi 1.95 with lands and 3.06 without Inalla 1.91 with lands and 2.82 without Azami 2.08 with lands and 3.27 without Breya 2.28 with lands and 3.53 withoutFreyalise 2.25 with lands and 3.63 withoutAdeliz 1.7 with lands and 2.55 without
>>93436685>Maybe I'll just do something stupid like thisGroup hug is despised and will get you focused down and killed by most playgroups. Especially in Bloomburrow, where the gift cards are actually very strong.Just play the deck you want to play and, if you decide your deck is too powerful for the rest of the playgroup, modify it to be a bit slower (emphasis on slower, not weaker) or just build a different deck.EDH is a game about having fun. Giving players free shit is, actually somewhat surprisingly, not fun for most people at the table. The people who aren't receiving free shit from you will feel left out and stressed because they have to play harder in order to achieve parity with the players who are getting free things from you. The players receiving free things from you will either pick up bad habits (why put card draw into my deck when the group hug player will always give me free cards when I need them?) or they'll feel like their deck is playing outside of their control (all of their optimization to keep up with the others means nothing if they're getting extra assistance from someone else on top of that.)Strong decks are fine. Good, even. Excellent, even. They're what EDH is all about. People want to drop bombs and make their opponents gawk in awe at their win conditions. The only issue is speed: If you're winning before other players are playing their bombs, that feels bad. Play a slow deck, but one that puts up a fight. Everyone has time to get their crazy shit on the field and everyone wants to square up their crazy shit with your crazy shit.NOTE: This applies exclusively to casual commander. If you're doing competitive or trying to win events, focus on speed, efficiency, and interaction.
>>93436438Huh. I never actually thought about running the steal effects to take Khârn back, that's pretty clever.I thought about building this guy, although I'm kind of annoyed that all of the "traitor" Commander archetypes are UB, I'm hoping eventually there will be one that scratches the itch for me
>>93436685The best way is to setup a budget limit to work with. Most powerful blow out unfun cards are expensive, of course there are some exceptions, some Commanders are extremely powerful and cheap but you will know just by googling them.
Funny observation but I noticed that people ignored my field at the pod when I played with Xira. Whole deck is filled with instant buff cards that can turn enemy's unblocked creature into miscalculated finisher with three or more mana. All the power doublers and such cards just fly past their minds as they can't predict what I play.Could older generals win simply because their aren't see as big of a threat compared to popular generals even if the 99 could be as game winning as rest?
>>93436909Flying under the radar is totally possible, but will only really work once per playgroup.
>>93436909Flying under the radar is a good strategy in general, it doesn't have to be an older Commander. Pick something that nobody has really seen before, with like a thousand or less Decks on edhrec and people won't really know what to make of it and they'll ignore you because they feel bad or something
>>93436909There's an argument to be made that it's unsportsmanlike, since people are probably assuming that you have an old and obscure commander that doesn't really do anything on its own so you're either a boomer that just wants to show off old cards or you're playing a jankpile, but you could also argue it's their fault for making assumptions.Either way, you're winning less because of your strategy and more because you're preying on the general perception of your deck. If you're fine with that, go for it.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/AFRcqnEIv0OuaqxK7uGJQQHow is this for baby first deck
>>93436775Soulless
>>93436998Seems fine at a glance. But personally I'd cut Arcane Bombardment (it's slow as fuck and random) and maybe one other card for one or two more lands.
>>93437039Oh, and consider Heroic Intervention and another protection spell(s) so you don't instantly crumple to a board wipe.
>>93435909Which site do you guys like to use to see this stuff?
I was looking at dollhouse of horrors stuff and the internet is telling me that I can activate dollhouse to exile tree here and in response to the construct ETBing something triggers and i can respond to that trigger by tapping the construct and it will make someones life 0 is this true?
>>93437055what else is there besides heroic intervention
>>93437095nta but Wrap in Vigor is my favorite, mostly because it's a lot cheaper (money).
>>93437095
>>93437101>>93437102 what do I cut, I cut arcane bombardment for heroic intervention
>>93437082The construct tree will be a 1/1 because it counts itself.If you somehow make it a 0/0 (or a whatever/0) it will die to state based actions before anyone gets priority to activate abilities.
>>93437102fuck yes, i forgot about regenerate. Thanks for second Heroic, anything else you like?also, regenerate works on the stack until it would be detroyed, or until end of turn?
>>93437117also, say someone wipes, i Wrap in Vigor, and then someone Terminates my commander.Does my commander survive?
>TQGod, I love pulling those old cards most zoomzooms never seem and get their meta brain all fried
>>93437102*blocks your path*
>>93437165Yeah yeah, no single card does everything.But stopping some of the wipe effects is better than losing to all of them.
>>93437161the old fucking frames man, i love them. i like the blue one alot too
>>93437128Regenerate is a one-time shield. If someone plays a murder, you play wrap in vigor, and then they play another murder, your commander will die because their regenerate-shield is gone.Terminate will just kill them outright. They can't be regenerated so the shield does nothing.Having said that, "can't be regenerated" isn't a phrase you see often any more.
>>93437165>Draw one card for 5Wow amazing
>>93437165In response I cast Silkguard!
>>93437180ah yes, i forgot that therminate actually forbids regenerate in the textbox. But i suppose if the scenario wasWipe - Wrap in Vigor - Murder would still kill my commander, because Murder resolves first
is House right?
>the only protection black gets is regenerate, and it's a deprecated keyword.........need to protect my guys; i don't want them to DIE!!!!! (until i want it)
>>93437281Black has a lot of stuff that brings them back from the grave if they die too which I think is underrated
>>93437271What the fuck is this? Some WotC "How to play Magic" guide?
>>93437281the "protection" in black is actual recursion, or boomerangs like picrel. they dont need protection
>>93437271What is this
>>93437305>>93437319Undying Malice, Undying Evil, etc are good for targeted 'protection', yeah. Reanimation is also a method of bringing stuff back, but it's usually single target, and you can't bring back tokens since they fizzle after hitting the grave.Basically, I want to keep my rats, and zombie tokens alive.
>>93437351but thats not what they are for, they are cannon fodder for the meat grinder. Better put your token producing sow in overdrive
>>93435854>tqAnd not just because of le racism memes, but it's also a pretty good stax piece that's piss easy to break the symmetry of. Also nice art that makes the overall aesthetic very tasteful.
>>93437281Yo how did they get away with so many drawings of uncensored buttcheeks back in the day I would have been way too horny to play this as a teen
>>93437401please do not coom to nim ass
Am I autistic for not running dual-sided cards because I don't want to bother unsleeving them?
>>93437427if chubby chasers exist, there must also be skinny dippers
>>93435909guess the commander
>>93437401because it is back when they used to use REAL heavy metal artists. wizard of barge does not count.
>>93437454I bought 2 copies of every werewolf that way I don't have to unsleeve them You can just do that
>>93436100Nowadays I only run dorks if they serve another purpose. Like in my golgari deck for sac fodder or my elf typonicious deck
>>93437271[smirking] now you're thinking like a planeswalker
>>93436570>>93436600>>93436603What is a fun+good voltron deck? I never tried the archetype. My buddy runs Feather and Rog/Ardenn so preferably not those. Also bonus if it's 2 colors with cool art
>>93437564What does that even mean? Displaying signs of severe mental retardation?
>>93437271I hate reddit so much
>>93437577fr, i'd take that as an insult
>>93437576These two. You can even pivot to control when need be, since your entire engine exists in the zone.
>>93437576He's past his prime and an untimely -1/-1 counter can really fuck you, but Skullbriar hits the board quick, gets big quick, and access to green means access to a bunch of ways to send your counters to the moon. I'm personally a fan of Zurgo but that's more wrath-tribal than classic Voltron. Elenda is a cool one that can pivot to go-wide at a moment's notice. Basically you want to look for something that's fast, resilient, rewards you for committing to hitting with it, and then load up on ways to facilitate that. Voltron is a very focused and very telegraphed strategy, but when it works it works extremely well.
How are these supposed to be good? To me they just seem really bad>If you draw them late you can't do anything with them>Burns you just to use>If you want the land untapped, it will either burn you, or burn your walletI can't see why I'd ever want these over something like Bountiful Promenade which just comes in untapped all the time for no drawback
What are some good anti planeswalker tech for gruul decks?
>>93437655>>93437656What about Killan ink duelist? I can literally kill a nigga with hatred t3
>>93437576If you can get over it being a UB card this thing is a house. You will never run out of cards and Benton is near impossible to kill if you still have mana. Green and white are superb protection for him and offer effective removal via exile and bite/fight spells. You naturally have the two most important keywords for voltron and card draw printed onto the card so you can focus on loading the deck with pumps, double strike, answers, and protection. You're in green meaning you can use something like crop rotation to find reliquary tower to keep your 19+ card hand after combat. Feeding people a crap ton of cards is dangerous, but swinging on weakest or most behind player without too many pumps early game will earn you some favor and load your hand. Later it doesn't matter since you'll just be killing them before they draw anything.Again, try to overlook the art and flavor, this thing is a monster.
>>93437725you don't need to fetch a shockland every time
>>93437733Anyone can kill one dipshit with Hatred on turn 3, it's about killing the other two dipshits afterwards
>>93435909Land count: 29
>>93437576Varchild
>>93437737My options are:>The $2000 old lands>Those lands that make you pay 2 life to make them untapped>The lands that require controlling a basic land>Lands that always come in tapped>BasicsI can't think of any reason I would want to run them. I could just run more lands that give the colors I want which don't reduce my health for just using them.
>>93437734Man, some of the characters that got cards are weird.
>>93437812the loss of life is somewhat not applicable for a few instances. And the fixing in multicolor decks is very neat. if you fish out a Shock it can make a difference of doing something this turn vs doing nothing.but in casual, yes you can mostly ignore these
>>93436161>never fixingAlmost all of green's 2 mana ramp fetches basic land types, not basic lands. Farseek, Three Visits, Nature's Lore, and into the north all get lands that could be duals, or even triomes for the first 3. Dorks get you ahead early so you can play your 2 mana ramp spells (or synergistic ramp with higher cmc). Generic, more expensive ramp really isn't worth it in green unless it synergizes with your gameplan.
What's a good mono black commander? I'm tired of people pissing and whining when I play Tergrid or Vito.
>>93437872marrowgnawer (:
>>93437845But there's a lot of lands that already help fix you and come in untapped for free that don't require 1 life and don't do nothing if you draw them late in the game.
>>93437884don't run fetches in 2c. they're really only for 3+ color decks because your untapped selesnya land isn't tapping for your black or red source or whatever. lategame coming in tapped isn't as big of a deal since it's 7 vs 8 mana as opposed to getting your one pip of a color you need asap
>>93437913>don't run fetches in 2cThat's retarded
>>93437884these wont fix for your 3rd or 4th colour that you might need in that moment.But as i said already, its not super necessary outside of 1v1 and cEDH
How do I get people on MTGO to stop complaining when I run a Mana Crypt in a casual deck?
>>93437872play vito anyway and tell them to get over it
>>93437976you stop caring! I have proxied mana crypt in a few of my paper decks and i simply do not care
>>93437931i mean you can, it's just another dual land for like $10-$20, but if you're debating blowing the money on it then it's not nearly as useful for fixing as in higher color commanders
>>93437976Mana Crypt is not a casual card
>>93437993but muh heckin 2 card infinite combo!
>>93438002if sol ring is casual so is mana crypt
>>93437998But it still is useful for fixing. It's a second, third, fourth copy of your best fixing lands. Money or powerlevel are the only reasons not to run them
opinions on BCW Prisms?
>>93438031example?
>>93435906This is my pet card that has travelled between every Zombie deck I make. It just does so much silly shit with zombies entering and dying all over the shop, and the odd wording leads to some excellent unexpected interactions - one is to not pay the upkeep but order the creation of the tokens before the upkeep trigger so everyone has a bunch of zombos enter and die if you want a stack of death triggers, but my favourite is Eldrazi Monument because not only does it give you an excess of bodies for the sacrifice, but the old wording of the card means the end step is a Destroy trigger so you end up with a just sarcastic number of 3/3 indestructible fliers.
>>93438091Deez
>>93438031The Prof seems to like them.
>>93438190idk i just use old tea tins half the time anyways
Commander to feel like pic related?
>>93438179I'd love one but it's such a cool card and reasonably priced that I'd like a real one. A local lgs used to have one but at a retarded markup close to like 100 CAD iirc
>>93438031Eh, they're just horizontal Boulders. I'd have to buy one to see what the difference is. But the colors are cool, especially the marble looking ones. Wonder how much easier/harder they are to open/close.
>>93437271He's an old school player, probably tapped his creatures for mana, didn't play any spells and got mana burned
>>93438261>100 cadaverage canadian prices
>>93438258Jeskai Flicker with Wild Research
All reserve list cards should be banned from all formats. "promise" never mentioned the cards remaining legal or usable.
>>93438392NOmy kookus..!
>>93438392Fuck off poorfaggot I paid the $60 for Deranged Hermit for Chatterfang and I deserve to use it
>>93438420I agree. Remove the reserved list. There's no actual reason for it to exist.
>>93438430I don't care if it exists, they should just make functionally identical versions and reprint those. That way they can't be sued.
>>93438442They couldn't be sued either way. Or I mean, you CAN sue, but it wouldn't make it to court at all.
>>93438392You will have to pry my Zirilan from my cold, dead hands, MaRo gimp.
>>93437872Play K'rrik and make them realize tergrid and vito aren't that bad to play against
>>93438258Am I supposed to know what that is?
NOOOOO MY PORTFOLIOYOU CAN'T REPRINT THE RESERVED LISTI'LL SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>93438357They're slightly larger than boulders, overall. The matte ones open very smoothly but the gloss ones can be kind of a pain in the ass until you've worn down the connection a bit.I ended up getting a few because they fit more snugly than boulders in the omnihive.
>>93438448It's not a matter if they can sue. If WotC started reprinting the reserved list, nobody would buy cards anymore.One of the main reasons people buy packs is knowing that all the cards will retain their value. Nobody would have wanted to pull the LotR set if WotC was going to reprint The One Ring afterward.There's a reason whenever a card becomes valuable WotC stops reprinting it.
I haven't bought any but a friend bought a bunch of these from kakapopo and I'm jealous
>>93438472>suing a company that never made the promise over a non-binding article in a defunct magazinelolas if any fucking American company would be prevented from utilizing its own legally owned IP because of some fucking article in a dead magazine made by the FORMER owners of a company. Holds no water anyway since the RL was changed numerous times and no one sued. You can't then choose to sue 20 years later because there was a change you disliked. You will be asked why you waited nearly a quarter of a century.
>>93438490>fetchlands mass reprinted in mh2 and mh3 >still $10 minimum for even the weakest one, windswept heathAsinine argument, reprinting does nothing to value when the secondary market and product phaseouts eventually make those reprints inaccessible until the next one. Mox Opal was $40 for an entire year after Double Masters came out and now it's climbed back up to $90 in the years since
>>93438512Tasteful
Only gamegenic sideloaders for me, thanks.
I got one of these because I think they look pretty.
>>93437819Apparently nobody on the design team really was that big a classic Who fan, though Gavin did watch a bunch of it anyway and picked characters that felt appropriate, as I understand.
>>93437819Using the Doctor Who cards made me watch the episodes the cards came from and I was so disappointed. Dinosaurs on a Spaceship and Flaming Tyrannosaurus are so badass in card form but in the show they were supreme jobbers.At least The War Doctor is cool in both.
>>93438594I'm still upset we got no Sutekh card.
How's she for an izzet commander? It's one of the guilds I've struggled to get into
>>93438673>combo piece in the command zoneStop, only villains do that
>>93438673Utterly fucking busted bullshit that just wins with one card comboing with itself out of nowhere. Only commander I really really don't want to play against.
>>93436685tapped duals no mass boardwipes and a commander with cmc of 6+ should be good
>>93438673Strong, fun to use, but everyone will just assume you're going for a combo and either kill you asap or just not want to play with you.
>>93437576OG Volrath reaninator hybrid. Can one-shot somebody pitching Shadow of Mortality of Draco.
>>93438673It's not fun to play against
>>93438673Actual cEDH material. Infinite with a dozen cards in the command zone.
>>93438737>>93438714>>93438680>>93438677Would the otter be a bit more casual?
>>93438490I forgot that magic cards are an asset that has no inherent use or value and said value is solely determined by investor confidence.They should really get around to fixing that, maybe invent some sort of game you can use them in where certain cards are better and therefore more desirable than others.
>>93438490This is such a retarded argument that ignores the existence of every other card game. Pokemon and Yugioh reprint shit constantly and they do fine.
How do I build him WITHOUT playing voltron
>>93438892clones and roll the dice
>>93438892dimir goodstuff?
>>93438892Build him with infect
>>93438677>>93438680>>93438714>>93438714What's the combo?
>>93438993Cast a two spells with Stella in play. In response to the second, cast Reiterate or any of the other spell doublers. Use Stella to copy Reiterate. The copy of Reiterate copies the original Reiterate. Repeat for infinite storm/magecraft and kill at your leisure.
>>93435854>TQExquisite Blood. For obvious reasons.
>>93438781Yeah, lots of fun. Bloomburrow had a great izzet subtheme of prowess and instants/sorceries leading into big combat swings. Will play a little slower but is way more fun and WAY more proactive than just turtling and collecting combo pieces.
What colors would your waifu be?Mine's esper.
>>93439008copies don't add to storm count
>>93439045yeah I realized that after I hit enter but I'm not going to delete it because replies calling me a dumbass still bump the thread
>>93439049it's okay I thought for some reason breya's ability counted as commander damage once
>>93439043Probably AzoriousStarting to whittle down my Mono Blue Urza deck now. I really liked the Esper one but I feel myself having a little trouble getting going at times and it tends to draw some table-wide attention that I struggle to answer.Should I use Leonardo to make tokens of some of my more expensive artifacts while looting, or just drop him? It seems cool and I pulled one, but I'm not married to the idea.
>Old Obeka player bitches me out for killing him firstWell maybe if your turns didn't take 2 fucking hours I wouldn't target you.
>>93439059God. I'm genuinely fearful for the day that the RC decides commander damage is any damage that has a commander as a source. It'd clear up a lot of noob traps but it'd be complete ass
>>93437733I played Killian once. I've never had an easier game.
>>93439043Orzhov
>>93439043Mardu. Alesha Who Smiles at Death usually comes to mind. Mind you, she is just Red, but you said waifu, not commander. Plus, her activated ability requires Mardu-supported mana. Mardu Warriors in Pioneer is fun, though they're not entirely strong.
>>93439043>tfw I cant decideA few months ago I’d say grixis, last month simic, but I’m coming around to jeskai and gruul.
You DO have a Sheldor deck, right?
>>93439123>her
>>93439162>(You)
>>93438892Theft deck all about casting stuff you don't own
>>93438993Copy any instant or sorcery that untaps her, like Dramatic Reversal, an extra combat spell, or a Threaten-like spell. After the copy resolves but before the original resolves, copy it again. Depending on what the spell was, you can sometimes add infinite mana or draw your deck, but at the very least you'll have an infinite storm count.
>>93439229That makes sense, I saw things like twiddle and cerulean wisps. Not my jam personally, but seems fineish, assuming you have the mana and cards to get the chain up and going.
>>93439043Probably Rakdos. Maybe an argument for Grixis based on Strixhaven making blue part of the artistic pair.
>>93439123Exquisite bait
>>93439043Bant, I guess. She's all about the protect and serve.
>>93439043Naya
>>93439043Mine's already confirmed as grixis.
>>93439303Ugin get off /edhg/
>>93439043My waifu is already monowhite. It's a shame what they did to her bros...
>>93439043Depends, her story is about averting a predetermined fate and disaster. Red, maybe blue?
>>93439043I made a custom card for my crush a couple years ago. Still think this is better design than most of what wizards is doing these days
I just took my red and artifacts from my (proxied) cube, jammed them together, and now I'm going to roll with that to my commander game tomorrow. It has no carddraw, and the curve averages at about 6. Yes, it is a wildfire "deck."
>>93439319She's better off that way, anon. In this distorted, toxic world we live in ...She was meant to be the Mother of Machines.
>>93439392
Anyone have a good list for her?
>>93439043My waifu would be BLACKED of course.
>>93439392I'm mildly fascinated by this, it's astonishing.
>>93439424Oh wow cool a group hug commander!
>>93439384Blue is the most anti-fate colour.
>>93439390roblox collab when?
>>93439420Huh. This bitch goes nuts with Humility...
>>93439392Make it 1G, and 4 damage/1 life and I'd play this
>>93439406>tfw I will never get to flay the flesh from the imperfect with my beautiful porcelain waifu>i will never get her blood stains on my collar and lips as she passionately pulls me into her >we will never hold hands while we watch the suns set on new phyrexia
>>93439043Her personality is 100% mono white, but what she does makes her lean azorius she could be either
>>93439456Anon think real hard about that one for a second.
>>93439043My body belongs to Jund cock
>>93439390Please don't ever post this again
>>93439392>target player with the most life
>>93439392>with the most lifeYou mean highest life total right?
My instincts are telling me 5 mana is too much for this effect but the fat cat tits are calling my name...
>>93439548That's the same thing!!!!
>>93439633Lots of rocks and removal and you're good to go. It's pretty much asking to be a removal tribal commander with some built in shitty wincon
>>93439646loli'll run her with vorpal sword or something, that'll work
>>93439633miaou
>>93439633I'm glad to see that there are still men of culture here on this board
>offspring precon>eluge>maha>inkeeper class>mockingbird >echoing assaultWhat are you guys planning on picking up from Bloomburrow?
>>93439633>>93439701I hope one day we get a tribal set with cats in black. Feels like it has enough precedent and flavor to not seem unusual while still being a twist on how Magic usually handles them.
>>93439633What cards have the best tits? Asking for a friend
>>93439633Yeah it's hot garbage
>>93439760behold
>>93439740Eluge and cards for ElugeAlso glarb and the group hug precon
>>93439771Hell yeah fishfren
>>93439779Fish 4 ever
Rate my decks /EDHG/
Does anyone have that drawfriend's picture of Urza's head blasting off and saying "Fuck Mishra/Yawg, Fuck WOTC, and fuck (you)"I had it but my harddrive died and I wanted to make it into a playmat.
>>93439805Based but new
>>93439760Honestly, I think it's this.
>>93439831back when magic was respectable
>>93439831I don't like this art. Her body lacks definition and detail, making her look like a lump of flesh/fat
>>93439805Ser Timothy of Clan Bigguns
Who is a good FOOD commander
>>93439760I should have completed this cube.
>>93439873unironically the hobbits precon commanders.
>>93439843You may be surprised to read that most people are lumps of flesh and fat.
>>93439740Animated Army and Squirrel preconsPlay Booster Box + Collector Box when I get my wagie funds
>>93439760
>>93439805Post your shilgengar list I need to tune mine a bit. Heliod too I might scrap tamesh
>>93439882No anon, that's you, because you never work out.
>>93439873Ygra seems interesting. Lets you combine food payoff with typical golgari creature death and sac payoff. Incidental buffing can't hurt either.
>>93439973Is there any card that's like 'all foods do x' or 'become x' or something like that?
I lost friends that day
>>93439988https://deckbox.org/mtg/Hazel%E2%80%99s%20Brewmaster
>>93439988
>going through cards for blue Urza>decide to include Forensic Gadgeteer because I pulled one and it basically doubles my artifact casts>look at her second ability>goes infinite with Basalt Monolith in a 2 card combowelp, I have infinite mana in here now
>Izzet player with 4 cards sitting in Foretell at my table
>>93440030There's even a bunch of proxies for common tokens that turns them into dinosaurs for this effect.Sounds cool but the art is all AI shit.
>>93440133>babby blue player discovers his first infinite mana
>>93440133You must be new to the game.
Marwyn and Staff of dominationDraw my deck, cast Craterhoof, smash my elvesSimple as
>>93435854The worst thing that ever happened to Commander was it becoming "Official"
>>93440267funnily enough, I've just never built for any combo that's ever gone infinite before. It's kinda embarrassing to admit I've been playing since OG Mirrodin and this is among the first times I've stumbled into an infinite. The only other time I can recall offhand was this janky thing I drew into with KCI, Prince of Kroog, Worldwalker Helm, and Simulacrum Synthesizer.>>93440242Now just to figure out what to do with it. I still have no idea how monoblue wins, in high school my method of winning in 60 card was just making a Platinum Angel basically impossible to remove for my friends and our meager collections at the time. Unrelated, but is 38 lands too many for a mono-color deck? I'm going with 29 Islands and 9 Nonbasics. I intend to use Winter Orb, Winter Moon, and Harbinger of the Seas. Gives me an excuse to break out the one Beta Island I've been sitting on for god knows how long.
>>93440312post the nonbasics if you're gonna ask that kind of question
>>93440319Oh right uh>Seat of the Synod>Darksteel Citadel>Rivendell>Urza's Saga>Reliquary Tower>Otawara, Soaring City>Inventors' Fair>Fomori Vault>Academy Ruins
>>93440334>meta>meta>garbage>meta>garbage>meta>garbage>garbage>metawow
>>93440312>Beta Islandpost?
>>93440347had to compress the image, but here's some of the islands going into the deckgot an old 7th edition foil and a foil one from Onslaught. Also got the Bob Ross ones as a gift from a friend I think.>>93440344I'd hardly call Rivendell garbage, let alone Reliquary Tower and Fomori Vault.
>>93440364>that last islandwhat the fuck did you do to it
>>93440364>That absolutely steamrolled islandS O U LOUL
I love this absolute unit. Didn't anticipate he'd be so fun
>>93440364
>>93440364>that fucked up foil islandS O U L
>>93440364>hol' up lemme hit my island with a fucking belt sander
>>93440364>scraped off art>foil through the patches>those fucking creases>dented in cornerspeople are gonna make fun of you but that card was loved
>>93440406Loved in a S&M club?
>>93440390>>93440397>>93440406>encouraging others not to take care of their shit
>>93440364i seriously want to know how people react to that when you play it at your lgs
>>93440411>lacking soul
>>93440426>treating your stuff bad is SOVL
>>93440431yes
>>93440364>>93440394>running over your island before you play
>>93440375>>93440394>>93440399>>93440406>>93440455Been like that for as long as I can remember, and I've had it since I was a kid>>93440390>>93440397based>>93440418once I run this deck there, I'll report backGotta make about 50 more cuts, have no idea what I'm doing but focusing as best I can on combat winning with Karnstructs.
Do we hate these?
>>93440491Yes they suck ass. They should be {1} instead of the hybrid cost and they would be playable
>>93440483>50 cutspost list
>>93440518https://www.archidekt.com/decks/8532878/blurzaGoing for mono blue Urza obviously, want to try to win in combat with Karnstructs. Make tokens, etc. There was an anon I was gonna discuss it with more in depth who posted his list the other day, but it's quite hard to pick out an anon among anons.
>>93440491Not the preferred lands, but usable until just below competitive playing.Autists and spikes will angry reply, but any land that makes two or more colors and enters untapped is playable. The filter lands and the OG filters are great budget choices for decks.
>>93440525immediate thoughts are cutting Jace Reawakened, Fading Hope, Insidious Will, Tidespout Tyrant, Akroma's Memorial, Lorien Revealed, Winter Moon, Loyal Inventor, Archaeomancer, and Deadeye Navigator
>>93440546>nothing but shit takes
>>93440604>defending fotm jace bad counters shitty overpriced combat monument flickershit and UBtrash
>>93440616>an artifact is expensive>in an artifact deck>with a mana generator in the command zoneanon are you okay?
>>93440525Court of Vantress doesn't do anything here
>>93440683It helps me scry you dumb nigger
>>93440755that...what
>>93440546I can see about Jace, and maybe Inventor and Archeaomancer, but I'm not 100% sold on removing the others. Tidespout goes infinite (i think) with Urza and some 0 cost artifacts, or is Hullbreaker Horror better for that since it does very similar things?>>93440683I was hoping to use it for both more draw and copying Simulacrum Synthesizer or any of my other key pieces. Though at that point I could run a spell that does it and not have the variance/dependency on people not attacking me.
>>93440787Nice ellipses faggot, when you stop pretending life is an anime come back to the convo.
>>93439740Nothing I really want but I won a free prerelease entry at my LGS so I'm just hoping to open some expensive stuff to sell. A sword of ice & fire would be neat though.
>>93440344>Fomori Vault>garbageThat card is insanely strong what the fuck are you talking about?
How does Foundations look for enthusiastic goblin deck builders?
any notable mono-red cards released in the last six months that trigger of other creatures' ETB? looking to upgrade my norin deck.
The mailman brought me 5 new foil toys.
>>93441021>MitesPost deck, Mites are kino
>>93441034https://archidekt.com/decks/8488125/copy_of_corrupted_influence_preconUhh.. I never built a deck before. I used a precon and replaced like 30 cards. It hasn't arrived yet, card keep trickling in. No idea if it's even gonna work or be any good but I chose the cards that seemed fun. I specifically tried to take all proliferate out and make as much token nonsense as possible.
Need some help, first of all pic related. Decent for an angels deck? Ive never had any experience with Monarch so Im wondering if the pay up is enough, sure I would play it when I have a couple of angels to protect me but still curious how the dynamic around Monarch affects a pod.Second and this is more of a ruling/timing question, Faldorn does her trigger happen when you cast something aka cascade so the wolf comes first of is it one the spell resolves that she summons the wolf?
>>93441034I should probably use him as commander instead but I wanna try ixhel first. She seems fun
post your ol' reliable
>>93441086
>>93440411You're the kind of guy who stores his motorcycle in a trailer hitch on his way to bike week, aren't you?
>>93440411You're Jewish lol
>>93441021OG defense is objectively 100x nicer you have dogshit taste
>>93441128I'm a weeb. Cope
>>93441143You can be a weeb and still have good taste retarded zoomie!!!!@
>>93441166The card has 2 artworks. 1 is weeb, one isn't. Obviously I take weeb. l2p noob git gud
>>93441171Defense of the Heart has 5 arts.
>>934411951 is weeb
>>93441200With white mythic artwork, sure.
>>93441207weeb is weeb
>>93441171>>93441200You're not a real weeb anon. Anime is a costume to you so you can fit in. A real, genuine weeb, would recognize the art and design as dogshit and not run it cause it's offensive to any true anime enjoyer.
>>93441213Oh ofc not, I think japan is a shithole. I just love anime girls. They make my pp go WHOOOOOOOOM
>>93441219You're not even straight because AGAIN AS AN ACTUAL STRAIGHT MAN I CAN SEE THAT THESE ARE DOGSHIT TIER ANIME GIRLS. YOU HAVE NO POWERS OF DISCERNMENT YOU ARE AN AUTOMATON AND SHOULD BE PUT DOWN FOR THE THOUGHTLESS CUR YOU ARE
>>93441219You're a braindead slop consoomer that takes anything you get instead of wanting quality shit.
>>93441233Anon, I posses a 600 dollar SEX MACHINE, BAD DRAGON toys worth 700 bucks and bodypillows worth 400 bucks. I never claimed to be straight. I only claimed to be a pervert.
>>93441052Court of Grace is kind of a decent card in general. I've seen some games where someone powers it out turn 2 off of a Sol Ring and that player gets a near insurmountable lead by the time anyone else can kill court or maintain monarch.Angels are probably going to be a reasonable deck for it since many angels have flying and/or vigilance, which are the best keywords for taking and keeping monarch.
>>93439760What cards are the most penile? Asking for my boyfriend
>>93439474kek
>>93440393back when i got him and my deckbuilding sucked i thought he was more of a slow moving train of a value engine. But after a proper upgrade years later, i played him one time and he absolutely popped, got 8 sol ring copies and flew to the moon
>>93439420i thought she was a neat controll commander, until i realised you can snipe your own shit down for maximum value. not sure if i wanna build a spellslinger deck around Goblin tokesn around her
>>93441715>snipe opponents stuff>draw a card and they lose a creature>snipe your own stuff>draw a card and you lose a creatureDoes not seem like maximum value at all
>>93441736you cant really expect your opponents to have the fitting toughness around all the time, so what are you going to do then? try to buff your burn with her ability? this will probably only net you a few cards per any given boardstate with multiple creatures with different toughness around. i figure the best course for her are 1/1 token spam and then pinging them with stuff like pyrohemia. that way you can guarantee your going to get your card advantage and draw obscene amounts of cards in big bursts and dig for your wincon (which i dont have atm)
>>93435909All without lands. Guess the Commanders if you'd like, I'll give color hintsUW: 3.48WB: 2.76UR: 2.68WRG: 4.19URG: 1.80R: 2.36B and R: 3.00WUBRG: 5.64UR: 2.58
>>93440491Depends on the Deck (TM). I use them in three color decks to fix my pips, but if you have a ton of single mana stuff then they might burn you. Also I started right around Lorwyn/Shadowmoor so for me they have SOVL.
>>93440491I like them but autists dont
>>93440502if that was the case they would be hecking based
>>93441052Her trigger go on the stack.above the cascade spell and thus will resolve first. So, wolf will etb before the spell resolves.
>>93435909>>93436044rookie numbers
re: booba
>>93435854>fav enchantment I dont have to choose, I can get whatever I want... most of the time...
>>93440491Super good in 2c decks
So are there more secret lair drops from the Inside the elevator superdrop that are not spoiled? So far 7 drops in this.
Best mother of machines art?
Just got back into mtg and played against this commander a couple of times. Literally no on else as the table except me was playing interaction so it basically won the game on the spot after the second cast. Next game I just won before it could be cast with deadeye navigator/peregrine drake combo. One guy was ridiculously salty about Etali, and perhaps even saltier when I won by using tutors and a combo. Etali seems ridiculous against most commander players who hate the idea of putting counters or removal in their deck
>>93442526He gets better the more battle cruiser your pod is and worse the more synergistic it is7 mana to find a Talisman, a Llanowar Elves, a Blood Artist, and a Mystic Remora is never going to be as good as 7 mana to find The Great Henge, Elesh Norn Grand Cenobite, Nyxbloom Ancient, and Genesis Ultimatum
Will the black food support this set put Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar on the map?
WHAT THE FUCK is THIS SHIT!!!
>>93435909Avg. CMC: 1.67Sweaty, but has to be under $100.
>>93437271I wish I could think like a planeswalker
>>93442482Ito
I feel like I'm going crazy. Everyone around me is hyped for Bloomburrow in EDH, but there's absolutely fucking nothing in the set.
>>93442961They're printing a lot of good wizards so I'm happy
>>93442961Yup, they're furries dazzled by the art. This set is very low powered with next to no playable cards in it.
>>93443003Yeah there's a couple of decent cards in there but overall it's a low power set not only for commander but also for 60c formats. Which is only natural since we're just getting off from MH3 and going into a period where they expect a lot of new players.
>>93442961im so disappointed, none of the legends seem intriguing to me they are either way too strong or total trash, im so mad the only mouse knight legend we got is total garbage
>>93442961I like the fishI like 1 toughness birdI like otter looterI like the hungry cat
>>93439156>the guy who was constantly criticised for managing the format based on his extremely casual pod>they made him the creature that attacks randomlyThey had to know what they were doing right?>surrounding myself with excellent people>voltron commander
>>93438470I'm in the process of building him because I'm working on mono colored decks, what's the best way to play him? Cheat out huge shit, have some lifelink to offset the life loss? Must run cards?
>>93443108AlsoYa knowThat was one of his favorite decksSheldont may have had his faults but his hands off approach to the format more than makes up for it
>>93442961I like one of the precons and maybe 5 cards in the main set. It's kind of underwhelming, but I think that might be due to how overwhelming and powerful MH3 and Thunder Junction were
>>93443058Im just glad my playgroup plays both hot garbage decks and high power decksThis set was basically made for us
>>93443058>way too strong>press X to DoubtWhich ones? If they were strong I'd forgivr a lot of the shitty theming, but mechanically speaking a lot of commanders are an absolute mess.
>>93440869Man, Swordbro is a dick.
>need like 60 cards>every seller has like max 7-8 cards AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>93443128Yes that's a very good point however unban biorythm you salty dead bitch
>>93442961The set looks fun, and I'm actually hyped to go to a prerelease tomorrow for the first time in 4 years, but it doesn't look like a set with a huge amount of good edh stuff. I've got 13 decks and there's less than 1 card a deck I want right now.
>>93439717Zoophilia isn't culture, it's mental illness.
>>93438420I played a squirrel meme deck 10 years ago and I bought a playset of this guy in foils and it today paid for quite many dual lands lmao
why is it so hard to play your stupid ass gameeither u get some shit pre cons or spend a month trying to get all the cards you need from different sellers
>>93443194>run want list through cardmarket shopping wizard>it's just a bunch of cheap cards I need, shouldn't be anything crazy>total card cost: 15€>total shipping cost: 30€
>>93443206>unban biorhythmBased
>>93443238I don't get why they ruined the shopping wizard. It used to show the price of that seller now you have to randomly add the whole thing to the cart to see the cards and prices. I love pressing the guy who has most cards I want and there is some random fucking card at 500+ euros because its graded when any other copy would be like 5 bucks and then I have to manually empty the cart to check out the next guy
>>93443237>buying cards all at once>not shopping around till you find copies in person over the course of weeks/ months
>>93443237>monthsLol. It took me YEARS to build my deck, slowly one card at a time. Like ten years. At least 5 years to get my cardfu. It's part of the fun of the format.
>>93443237It's a format made by established players who already had thousands of cards in their collection that they could build decks out of.Despite being marketed towards new players as the casual format, it is really not a format meant for new players because there's no reasonable way to build a brand new deck without a pre-established collection.If you're brand new to magic, consider buying some of the older precons. They're bad on their own but will have a bunch of commander staples which you can put towards other decks over time. Older precons can drop as low as $20 and while most of the deck will be chaff, it gives you a wide variety of cards you can use that easily justifies the price. From there, find colours or a commander you actually like, put together the framework of a deck out of what you have, and then buy or proxy what few cards you still need.EDH is a very proxy-friendly format, if you aren't proxying cards worth $50 or more. Don't be afraid to print a card out on printer paper or order them from MPC if you can't fully invest into the deck you want to play. I have several decks that are entirely proxied just for convenience and have never had issues playing them casually with friends or strangers.
>>93443313>Older precons can drop as low as $20What do you mean by older? Pre-covid precons are rather hard/expensive to find, the most of the ones close to the $20 mark are some of the less popular ones from ZNR, KHM, SNC, VOW, etc and the "starter" commander decks from 2022-23.
Which one do you guys more approve of?
>>93443385Both are fine, but wort is a legendary edhg meme.
>>93443392>legendary edhg meme.qrd?
>>93443237you could just print the cards while you get them
>>93443359ZNR precons drop to rock bottom and I've also seen the starter commander decks drop that low.>but they aren't goodIf the original anon was complaining about building a GOOD deck instead of just building A deck, then he should look into proxying. I'm suggesting cheap precons as a way to get some bulk for his collection so he has cards he can use when he finds a commander he likes. The two ZNR starter decks are bad, but he'll have a lot of usable cards for all five colours that will make things a little less daunting when he does decide to build something.He didn't seem interested in just buying and playing a precon out of the box.
We should have kitchen nightmares, but for edh decks. I'd love to yell at some combative morons and show them the true path to deck building.
>>93443183How are they a mess?
>>93443512It's a case by case basis, but outside of the mediocre storm prowess otter and cruelclaw it's like every commander has an extra couple of words on it that makes it worse than an existing card, low powered, or just weird to work with. I had a much longer post written up, but in the end it's just tremendously disappointing.
>>93443440My point was more along the lines that ZNR is hardly an "older" set even if it was 4 years ago
>>93443601Both the prowess legendaries are unreal cards not "mediocre"
>>93442961There's a good amount of in-the-99 niche cards for my decks. Like the 1 cmc frog that bounces every upkeep is great for my aeve mono g storm deck
>>934429612-mana rhystic study with no option to pay the 1 seems pretty good. It gets better as your opponents' removal gets more efficient. If anyone tries to respond to it with vendetta, bolt, or slice, you get a draw.
>>93443739>If anyone tries to respond to it with vendetta, bolt, or slice, you get a draw.Not if they drop it immediately, its only mana value less than the power, meaning a raw Pollywog only draws on 0 mana noncreature spells
>>93443773Aw fuck didn't realize it was "less than" not "less than or equal to"
>>93443645Here we go again. The izzet one is much better than the monoblue but it suffers from the deck being pulled in too many directions at once. If you're going to be alpha striking with just the otter you could easily aetherflux instead for half the headache, and it only hits one player at a time. If you're playing a bunch of smaller creatures and hoping to hit your opponents, you either need to deal 120ish damage across multiple creatures, which works out to six creatures getting 20-ought prowess triggers/buffs each, which is a huge ask even of they're unblockable, or you need to combo out which the commander doesnt help with in the first place, which means your likely to run out of gas. And worst of all, all this depends heavily on the commander. Yes yes spirit of the format play whatever you want at a casual table, but it's nowhere near as great as it looks at a glance.
>>93442961The precons are incredibly solid as far as precons go. Good engines, good lands, all available at MSRP. That's worth something if your LGS does precon events like mine.I'm primarily a Standardfag and this set looks pretty good there.
>Mh3 everyone whines about power creep>bloomburrow apparently everything is too low powered There's just no pleasing you idiots
>>93443835>everyone is the same personI never complain about high power cards unless they're outright broken, but that has only happened maybe a couple of times in the past decade.
>want to buy uniform lands>sellers have no more than one of a single basic
>>93443121He's a combo deck, with how fast he burns through life you'll never get a chance to swing a battle cruiser.You want tutors out the ass, even the mediocre ones like final parting or Diabolic Tutor. Chainer Gary combo, aetherflux bolas, ooze asmodeus, vilis sheoldred. Get heartless summoning, feed the swarm and removal with only black pips, blood celebrant, necropotence, as much card draw as you can fit since krrik can be played as a storm commander, every ritual you can play, peer into the abyss, imps mischief, protection spells like malakir rebirth or supernatural stamina. Krrik is a boogeyman up there with kaalia so if you want something more casual rather than cedh go fast don't bother since anyone with half a brain will remove him the second they can resolve a removal spell.
>>93443835What are the MH3 heavy hitters? Also I think BBW is perfect for edh and limited, I don’t give a shit about other formats and the mental midgets within.
How well do precons work for duel?
>>93443985I seriously doubt limited is going to be good with all these multicoloured and expensive cards with no fixing or ramp. Every set in like the past few years is pray for a bomb or you might as well scoop right after cracking packs.
>>93435906It does so much work in my wilhelt deck. Each turn I get zombies, each end step I trade them for decayed zombies
>>93443785>if I write a lot I'm rightNope! The mono blue one is better too. Your opinions on cards is really bad lol
>>93444047As expected. Go on, how does the otter win the game? What does the deck look like?
>>93444066Probably looks like your average prowess deck and wins the same way. It's funny you call the blue one worse and then all your complaints about the izzet one the monoU answers. You're bad at the game work on typing less and thinking more
>>93444091A "prowess deck" isnt a thing. It's just a storm deck with a wincon that needs to swing, and it's either nondeterministic or not. If the deck is nondeterministic you're going to have a bad time storming off multiple times over multiple turns. If it's deterministic, you can win the game without the otter. If it's neither and your hoping to build value and swing multiple times over multiple turns with multiple boys, you're going to have a bad time.
>>93444066The mono blue otter is an isochron scepter in the command zone you can use dramatic reversal or turnabout for infinite mana and prowess triggers and swing for lethal, or blue suns zenith forcing your opponents to draw their deck or draw your deck and thoracle.
>>93444091How does the blue otter generate 20 prowess triggers with 6 creatures? How does it make the izzet otter hit multiple opponents?
>>93444140Eh, I guess. I run dramatic reversal and it's good in the sense that it's card selection and a cheap enabler in the commandzone that digs for your wincon. But needing to cast spells to buff it before you combo off and needing to have the spell on the stack before you activate it makes me a bit nervous.
>>93444140>>93444191>They printed this bitch AGAIN
>>93444013Shut up queermo lmaoRemoval won MH3 limited play most of the time, that's the fun of sealed different sets can mean different strats
>>93443237Anon for over an entire year the only EDH deck I had was Lord Windgrace while I bought Standard booster boxes for Shocklands and Checklands and slowly built new decks 1 card at a timeIt's a pet project, pick 1 deck as your goal and slowly work towards it. Sure you can just keep ripping open precons and taking cards from it, but for me personally half the fun is collecting like it's a puzzle. The very first EDH deck I bought myself, Athreos, God of Passage, was $400 and I still have proxies in that thing. I've since moved on to other decks and I don't play it as much because it wasn't as satisfying just bulk buying the entire deck
>>93444013You haven't drafted in years anon
>>93439760>so stacked, her cousin has seething breast envy
Izzet prowess is actually really good
>>93444013>no fixing or ramp>Three nonrare colorless cards color fix you>Green has three cheap mana dorks with another one in Gruul>Green has land ramp at commonNiggas will freak out about mana when every card in the set doesn't poop out a free treasure token on etb, huh?
>>93444581The person you are replying to has likely not played a game of magic in years and has definitely not been to a draft since well before covid.
>>93442526RG Etali is literally a cEDH deck, Anon.
^retard^
>>93440411oy vey how will it be gem mint 10 now goyim?!?!
>>93444675It's true though lmao. Rg etali puts up decent numbers at events
>>93442526Wait what the fuck this card is Gruul? How? Phyrexian Pips don't count as colors do they??? I thought it was exclusively the green tree mana symbol that indicated green color identity
>>93444723muh tier list
>>93444744Huh? Actual tournament data has nothing to do with your memery
>>93444751muh actual tournament data
>>93444768It's sad I know that this guy is a proud larping right winger
>>93444773Swing and a miss bucko. Care to be wrong a third time?
>>93444731any colored pip thats not in reminder text contributes to color identity, anon
>>93443981Thanks anon, sounds fun
>>93444632List?
>opponents start gaslighting me as the threat and make alliances with each other
>>93444848wheel and deal next time bro
>>93444848Because you are dumb and act like a threat. I am consistently a threat but I don't telegraph it so I get left alone a lot
>>93444853>>93444867>>93444848Politics is how bad players cope. You should know what every deck is capable of when you sit down. I just get drunk and banter while playing like it's mtgo.
>>93442526>wahh this card is too stronggg>anyways then i tutored my infinite and wonRiveting.
>>93444848>attack burn player>"hurr durr I just lost 7 life after I dealt 25 to everyone, I'm gonna team up with the guy who has 5 dragons out and convince him to kill you">scoop because I was on 4 life anyways>dragon guy kills burn player>burn player goes "heh, my plan worked" without any hint of irony while scooping
I am kind of sold on making a Rustein + Umori deck next, it looks super cheap but still fun to build
Thoughts?
>>93445165>Just more card draw in WWhat's to think about? W's only weakness has ever been lack of decent Legendary Creatures.
>>93444908Politics is part of any Free for All multiplayer game
>>93444848>interact with nerds, sociallyId also rather loseBased
If I use Ilharg to put Ball Lighting on the field I can returned it to hand before the sacrifice requiment is triggered, no?
>>93444848Lmao. Retarded Voltron player thinking setting up his 20 enchantments and equipments won't make him the main target.
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>>93443238cardmarket wizard is rigged, either by accident or on purpose. always check your wizard results of the bigger sellers and look if the others have listings. last time i went down from a 65€ order to 52€
>>93443805not at all. shit manabase, bad reprints. expect to replace at least 30 cards before they become good
>>93445681this guy looked at the group hug and said all of them were bad I'm laughing
>>93445562He made it too obvious. This is why you play hidden voltron, like using Orvar to create 10 copies of staff of titania and make him unlockable suddenly.
