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>Unbans Podabsolutely nothing changes in any formatlmao, power creep
>>93803995>TQYou know damn well that's not the thread theme. We're busy arguing about Rooms.
>>93803983If I ever have to learn how mutate works I'm gonna fucking find you and make you read every single ruling in MTG's history four times without breaks
>>93803995actual previous thread>>93799910>>93799910>>93799910
>>93803995>TQYou could unban half the Modern banlist and it would have zero impact and that's been true for years now.
>>93804028>Dies to scamp on T2do you really think you'll get to have fun in constructed formats anon?
Anyway here's a vehicle with a fun line of rules text.
>>93804113>man
>>93804113probably not constructed playable but fuck me I will slam-pick in draft
>>93804113I love how every vehicle has to have a crew cost of one or two because otherwise they're literally worthless. Remember all those ways you could have creatures that counted for more power when crewing things? They're fucking relic now cause every vehicle might as well not have a crew value now.
>>93804127Would the Aftermath Analyst deck like it? It doesn't really do much milling I suppose and it'd rather they NOT come to the field until they do the big turns, but hey.
>>93804132Yeah who would ever play with a vehicle that has crew 3?
>>93804158I can't even imagine a card having crew 4.
>>93804158It literally draws cards without being crewed and then creates it's own creatures for crewing.
>>93804172Yes, and it does all of that while not having crew 1 or crew 2.
>>93804135it could have a home somewhere but I can't really put my finger on the shell.
>>93804158>vehicles are good>see this one example>"vehicle makes its own crew and also draws you cards"why is anon like this?
>>93804158Ah yes the card that you basically never actually use as a vehicle. Brilliant analysis, boss.
>>93804135>>93804192maybe greasefang wants this?
>>93804113>play this>chain together five surveil landsI'm gonna do it
>>93804132mech hangar gets an honourable mention
>>93804113This would be hilarious with Malevolent Rumble (if it was in standard...).
>>93804113Landsbros this doesn't feel like it's good with Loam because Loam is self contained 2 mana draw 3. Am I wrong?
>>93804624He only affects lands from your library, so your Tranquil Thicket and your fetchlands still go to the graveyard.
why is parallax tide going up in price
What the fuck is wotc smoking? RDW now has multiple ways to T2 kill in standard. Definitely what the format needed.
>>93804624I haven't been an active lands player in a few years but I'd be surprised if the deck wanted the vehicle. It doesn't need it, the casting cost is annoying, and the ability has the potential to get in the way.
>>93805055the leyline is shit. rdw has no way to make use of multiple copies and it definitely doesn't want to mull to get a leyline
>>93805128Wouldn't it be funny if they printed a pump spell with topdeck card selection haha crazy right
>went 4-1 at store showdown>the other top players also finished 4-1 but it didnt break in my favori am now the proud owner of a shiny shark typhoon
>>93805128>the leyline is shit. rdw has no way to make use of multiple copieselaborate
I think people are thinking two small with the leyline.Yes it's good for aggro, but it's also an insane mdirange piece with the right tools.Just as a random example off the top of my head.>Turn two of my tokens into cards then create six new tokens.The power ceiling on this shit is nuts.
And another example of stupid shit you can do.
>>93804113Are they putting seemingly redundant vehicles in sets in preparation for Death Race?
>>93805128yeah heres the thing though it can still function perfectly well without starting with it, and can easily kill you with cards in hand even with a dead draw on it T2-3
>>93804113>>93805276
>>93803995You stupid brain dead troglodyte you still haven't fix the previous thread section.>>93803995You just keep copy and pasting the same thread with only a picture and >TQ change. Why do you insist on making threads when you clearly don't know what you're doing. Are you a brain dead Arena refuge? The image you posted exposes you as the kind of person that doesn't know proper strategy.
>>93804113So where does lawnmowerman sit? Did anyone tell the artist that she was making a vehicle?
>>93805432Vehicle?
epic win flavor text
>>93805389>The image you posted exposes you as the kind of person that doesn't know proper strategy.elaborate
Wotc wants our pain, our terror!We cannot play unless we suffer.
Another blue color pie break Mark lost the battle.They lose the creature you get to manifest.
>>93805650
>>93805554>>93805650The survivors look like the apocalypse happened a week ago.
A white plainscycler. We might be getting a landcycling cycle back this would be great for limited color fixing.
>>93805676>I don't think it's going to be precedent for bluelol>>93805734Aren't there new victims coming in all the time? I don't like all the modern highschoolers, but eh, that's Magic now.
>>93805739Here it is in green
>>93805739>Landcycling in a set that has duals that care about land typesThis feels inappropriate somehow
>>93805750Dreadmawbros, we've been powercrept
>>93805775>sad craw wurm noises
>>93805750Holy fucking powercreepThe art's really fuckin' radical though. I like it.
>>93805739>4 power common white creaturesCaptivating Unicorn was truly the ultimate death of Magic.
>>93805650Do these cards have A/B art variations like the MKM cards?
>>93805741>Aren't there new victims coming in all the time?Victims from other planes should be dressed according to their origin, shouldn't they. These people look like natives.
>>93805862No, Val has the clothes magic
>>93805862The duskmourn guide was recently updated with one of the sections being the survivors being brainwashed into believing the always lived there.
>>93805879Why? Isn't the whole point that the demons feed off fear and shit? Doesn't believing you're a native diminish your fear?
>>93805882I think the artist missed the memo and made they/them look way too feminine on this one.
>>93805881Some come from worse planes like Innistrad and Zendikar.
>>93805879That is probably the stupidest thing they could have done with the story. The single most common fear across all culture groups and all of history is the fear of the unknown, and WotC has made it so this "fear demon" is actively working to make his food less afraid. If he has the power to do large scale memory alteration, why isn't he making people FORGET about things in the house? You know what's scarier than thinking you're in a familiar place? Knowing that you are slowly losing yourself and becoming more vulnerable all the time. Knowing that you wrote down solutions to life-or-death problems, but realizing that you have forgotten where you put them. Holy shit, this is the most basic building block of all horror and they just tossed it aside so they can dress Fblthip like Marty McFly.
>>93805938Don't ask questionsJust pretend our braindead contrivances don't exist and get excited for next braindead contrivance
>>93805938You're just supposed to see the 80s movie references and clap, you fucking chud
>mtg is a fairly generic fantasy setting where there isn't really a narrative and the world-building is done via flavor text on cards>mtg is a plucky band of adventurers and their retarded goblin mascot on a quest to use the mcguffin to kill ultra-mega-satan>mtg is the jacetice league>mtg is archaic memes and pop culture references with tie-ins from other IPsi demand an Eek! the Cat tie-in WITH Terrible Thunderlizards chase holofoils AND references to Klutter (tokens or art inserts)
>>93805249maybe it's cause I'm a filthy Domain player, but I've never lost to this
>>93805734there was no apocalypse
>>93805739>green one already revealedGUISE WE MIGHT BE GETTING A CYCLE
FOR THE LAST TIMEIT'S ZORA-LEEN NOT ZORA-LINE
>>93805750>not a lizard horrorone job, aways fail>>93805879I was about to say how retarded this was but, I mean, it is not as retarded as I first thought. >>93805881 probably makes you less inclined to leave (but I guess If you can escape it you escape it, maybe you end up in another hellhole but I mean, It may be better)(well, I retire what I said, It doesn't make it less retarded)>>93805897>Innistrad and Zendikar>worse planesInnistrad: You can live a confortable life in the cities without having to see monsters 99% of the time (with the exception being rogue players that will probably ignore you), If it was Innistrad during Avacyn's imprisonment then maybe it could be worse as all wards and sources of powers weren't working (but this took less than 1 year)Zendikar: If you live in the wild? Or during the Eldrazi invasion? Maybe, ok. Any other settlement are goodish, maybe you live in a vampire city without knowing it but it would still be better than being afraid of everything and having to fight to live everyday.The only shithole worse than duskmourn is maybe what is left of old phyrexia and other life less planes (and even in those may have safe places for exemple Amonkhet)
>>93806169a whole plane eaten by a house seems pretty apocalyptic
>>93806194for the plane, maybe. most of these people literally just walked in through a door
>>93804113is that choo choo charles?
>>93806210That's kind of the whole problem, isn't it? A plane that we know nothing about was taken over by a demon whose actions don't line up with his stated motivations and he uses a house with inconsistent rules to achieve vague goals. I struggle to care about any of this, and it didn't have to be this way.
>>93805892he looks like an fetal alcohol syndrom baby if anythingalso like my face, my soul meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CERjroF16zApipipipipipipipipipi
>>93804113Greasefang is gonna be hardcasting parhellion lmfao
Its here and it is not a land
>>93806381what a boring ass design
>>93805650It takes 8 mana to do so, I think it's fair, especially since there's colorless cards that do similar things but better anyway.
>>9380638Wow, how generic and boring.
>>93805750I like how the moon is straight up a window
>>93806403That post was from 14 years ago did you mean to crosspost from another thread?
>>93806420I missed the last number.
>>93805276All these Survivor cards that care about being tapped are also clearly made in preparation for Death Race.
>>93806381>5 mana 5/5 uncounterable trample haste with a recursion ability>Probably completely unplayable anywhere because it's 2024
>>93806265>actions don't line up with his stated motivationsI don't agree with this. He's rules-lawyering his binding so he can travel freely and has accumulated so much power that at this point basically is the plane.
>>93806464>fringe playable in 2010
>>93805938To be fair, the idea that you'll forget your home if you stay long enough is kind of scary as well.>>93805734I guess the house must be constantly manifesting perfectly clean clothes that's customized for their individual interests.
>>93806440I need more vehicles for my Thunder Junction G/W vehicle/mount deck or at least a card that cares about tapping my own creatures.
>>93806554Will Mounts return in Death Race? Could they end up becoming a Deciduous mechanic like Vehicles are?
>>93806587>Could they end up becoming a Deciduous mechanic like Vehicles are?If someone on the design team wants more of them for their really cool original mount commander deck then they'll return
>>93806587I don't know about Death Race, but I bet there will be Mounts in Final Fantasy for Chocobos.
>>93806624Depends on when FF was designed. We know that UB sets have to be done more in advance, so Mounts might not have been a thing yet. Keep in mind, Duskmourn designed Manifest Dread before Murders at Karlov Manor came up with Disguise.
They were so close to winning be back with what would have been an excellent plane with a great and flavorful premise if they didn't intersperse it with horseshit 80s garbage.
with all this morph/face-down support in standard, we should expect return to tarkir to have traditional morphs and manifest, right?
>>93805882literally the fucking meme
>>93806524No, I mean that he's doing all of this in order to harvest people's fear but is being an absolute retard about it
>>93806670sadly yes
>>93806631the horror movie plane was always going to reference the golden age of horror movies (and some of these are from the 70s actually)
>>93806333I'm a diehard japanophile and I hate vtubers. They are a scam aimed to provide an alternate angle of attack for exorting money from idiots who wouldn't donate to normal streamers, even though the only difference is that one has a live2d avatar.
>>93806670I don't think they'll use morph since disguise is meant to make morph playable in constructed formats. They might use manifest since since cloak was made to be similar to disguise but one of the complaints of cloak is people sometimes forget if disguised their creature or if they cloaked and they wanted two individual tokens for disguise and cloak rather than one.
>>93806670It depends on what aspects of the OG Tarkir block they choose to focus on. Do we know if Ugin will be involved or will he still be stuck watching over his brother?
>>93806381Holy heck, it goes straight into my Surrak Dragonclaw EDH Deck!
>>93805879If you can reshape memories why not just reshape memories in such a way that your goal is achieved immediately? If you want fear, just twist their memories to give them a phobia of everything. If you want them dead, just twist their memories into thinking demons are friends to be approached and not fled from.
>>93806670The most likely mechanics to returnProwessRaidBolsterDashReboundManifestExploit
>>93806333Where did it all go so wrong?
>>93806670Maaan return to Tarkir will be such a dumpster fire. They know people want Khans but the current timeline is Dragons so they'll concoct a horrible mashup of the two that will satisfy noone.
>leyine of the void reprinted againHow about you reprint cards I don't own so you don't destroy my money hello? how about kamigawa ultra expensive lands hello?
>>93806906When she became a Vtuber. Her personality would have naturally make her develop terrible habits in any job that has strangers constantly comment on her personal life or even public youtube channel due to her schizo rants. Ironically she would have suffer a lot less if she continue living her life like the man in the video >>93806778 but by her becoming a Vtuber she might do something drastic if any of her coworkers actually do something unforgivable. A Vtuber agency of mentally ill girls sounds profitable on paper but them being actually mentally ill is a disaster waiting to happen. I hope Pippa receives proper care and learns to cope with the realities of life because if she continues acting like an edgy 4channer eventually a crazed individual will seek to ruin her life.
>>93807020I was referring to mtg and the audience it attracts nowadays. I have no idea who/what you are talking about.
>>93806631
>survivor themed cult movie setyou think you have it all but you'll never have me
Seems... Fine in limited I guess?
>>93807349Sorcery speed unsummon seems pretty bad.
>>93807349>As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock itsorry if I'm late to ask this, but is this like an ability that goes on the stack or more like a special action? can I use mana from pic related to open doors?
>>93807414Good question, can you stifle someone trying to unlock a door?
>>93807414Unlocking a door is a special action like flipping a face-down creature face-up.
>>93807427No, but you can stifle the triggered ability of the enchantment when it's unlocked if it has one like that.
What are some good decks I can mess around with with the premium upgrade cards on a new account in MTGO? I’m a noob and not really sure how to build a decent deck.
Bargaining With Traitors1RInstantAs an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a creature, enchantment or pay {2}.~ deals 5 damage to target creature. If that creature would die this turn, exile it instead.Uncommon"This is my way out. You have to find your way out." - Winter to Niko
>>93807582Hah, it almost has bargain, that's cute.
>>93806631The horror monsters and all the spooky mansion stuff are fine. It's just the human survivors (just the survivors, the cultists look appropriate) seem wildly out of place with the rest of the plane's lore as presented. It's telling the stories downplay the 80s elements and instead make a serious attempt to present a culture where no-one's ever seen a natural light or water source and the most impressive piece of tech is cobbling together a single-use taser out of a toaster.Like look at this. This outfit shows up repeatedly, why the fuck do the survivors have a uniform?
>>93807606It just feels like there's a lack of communication between art and lore teams or something. Or some hamfisted attempts somewhere up the line to force tropes even when they can't slot in. Some horror movie tropes don't feel incongruous at all, but some just don't make sense with Duskmourn's world as presented.
>>93807349well...the Elevator deck does need interaction of some sort
>>93807616there obviously is. Case in point, Sorin finds Edgar's coffin missing, not empty.
>Meathook Massacre IIWhat the fuck are they thinking with this kind of name?
>>93807606It's telling that the whole set is a massive design failure both in flavor and mechanics and it is still the least alienating set we've had in years
fix the thread title, thank you
>>93807606>This outfit shows up repeatedly, why the fuck do the survivors have a uniform?Val obviously has a sense of aesthetic and provides them with matching outfits.
>>93807671As per the stream, the people in the house heard about the original massacre from people coming in, and the Razorkin decided it would be fun to replicate it.
>>93807671It's a reference to horror movie sequels.
What's the consensus on pic related? Is it good outside commander? Or simply a Timmy card? Can it work on modern?
>>93807671>World War IIWhy did they name it that.
>>93807606To be honest, I'm glad that they have relegated the too overt pop culture garbage to its own corner of the set instead of spreading it across most pieces of artwork like in Karlov or OTJ.
>>93807702like everything else with a lot of black pips, it's probably worth trying in pioneer mono black devotion>Can it work on modern?I guess coffers could play it but the deck hasn't been doing well since MH3 dropped, necro completely took over as the mono black deck of choice in the format
>>93807649Discrepancies like that I don't mind as much. The difference between the survivors in story and in cards is just SO tonally distinct. MKM had a similar issue where the core story played itself pretty much straight, the only real goofiness came from Proft being kind of a goofy character, but he still took it seriously as such. And then you had a bunch of hamfisted mystery trope cards that didn't really make sense.
My LGS would have less than 10 participants for the store championship and I would like to aim for the urzas saga.What's are some standard decks that don't have bad matchups?
Wanderer is done. Not expecting much else from the set due to the pushed 80's overdose.
My algorithm is cooked and shein of all places is advertising me proxies
Can this clown be Pioneer playable?
>>93806980Sometimes I forget people who get mad about reprint because "muh value" are actually real
>>93808043yeah, the combo setup is right here, it will be the return of naya midrange with a combo finishI don't expect it to be top tier given how popular jund ygra is right now, but you'll definitely be able to play it
>>93807704because it was twice the size and cost?
>>93807702I think it would be playable with a single X or one less black pip. As is it's useless.
>>93808101How exactly does this go infinite if the clown can only be activated in a main phase?
>>93808101Doesn't work, the clown only activates as a sorcery.
>>93808278It doesn't. They intentionally made clown so that it can't be infinite unless you jump through crazy hoops.
>>93808278>>93808321oof, I completely missed that last line, I shortcutted it as working just like reflection of kiki-jikki, what a shame
>>93808328If they didn't he would be a better Kikki-Jikki that costs 2 less mana, a.k.a. fuckbusted beyond belief.
>>93808347They went out of their way to make this worse than Kiki>can't target itself>cost to activate>two colors>sorcery speed only>creature is only a 1/1It's not a good card.
Set's oblivion ring.
>>93808393Nice, hitting enchantments and Ward 2 is good.
>>93808393What getting downshifted and having one less W in the cost does to a mf.
>>93808402Absolutely mogged by Seal From Existence. Ward 3 and can hit any non land permanent.
Spell redirector.
>>93808414Abrade is looking a bit zesty over here, but man to think that poor old Shatter would get pushed so hard over time...
Room Card at common.
>>93808410Yeah, but it's much better than Banishing Light or many other enchantments in this vein.
Another blue color pie break.
>>93808455>shuffle isn't part of the costIt might be a lot of hoops to jump through, but this is abusable.
>>93808439Duskmourne Draft doesn't look like it'll be complete torture at leastAny mechanic that gives you stuff to do on your downtime, like these Rooms, generally make for a better draft environment imo
>>93808439>You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.What the fuck. This doesn't explain anything. Fuck modern magic.
Pricy, but it's trail of mystery 2.0
>human doctor
>>93808455Maro doesn't like it either apparently.
>>93808520So, Zendikar is blocked off from Duskmourn somehow, so is this Kor from Arcavios or Dominaria, or what? That's sort of a problem I'm having with "Omenpathed-in" characters is that they rarely seem to have any of their home plane's look to them unless they're main characters.
>>93808560It could just be a new plane with kor that we've never heard of before. It's not a problem at all.
>>93808560Dominaria also has some Kors.
>>93808490Sounds pretty straightforward to me.
>>93808581I mentioned Domnaria already.>>93808578I could even believe Duskmourn even has Kor natives, but everything suggests the only two native sapients were elves and humans, so. I know it's nitpicky, but I kinda just... Want to know these things.
So is Fear not a thing anymore?
>>93808626No it's not
>>93808626Hasn't been for years and years. They don't really do much colour-specific stuff like that anymore. It's considered a functionally deprecated mechanic, though I think they occasionally bring it back in some eternal products. The BRO commander decks had it, I think, specifically to reference Antiquities.
>>93808626Wizards hates color based unlockable creatures, intimidate have seen print in a decade either
>>93808655>>93808686Damn, now I feel old.
>>93805676You just don't understand, blue struggle so much.
>>93808753>what are counterspells
>>93808753Blue already gets bounce and counterspells, and they have the most card advantage and evasive creatures. That's the whole fucking point of blue.
>>93808802Which are terrible in limited.
>>93808802Bounce is terrible when every creature has an ETB effect. It's like returning a sorcery from your opponent's graveyard to their hand.
>>93808802They just want every color to play the same because that makes their job easier.
>>93808813Blue has been the top color in multiple draft formats before all of this, it can clearly compete already.
Will normies ever notice or care when wizards eventually stops making any white guy characters. I wouldn't care if they made their 2 trans, asian, women emperor, and black scientists women group if i could just get a white guy
>>93808845You mean like Tyvar?
>>93807917>covering her midriffRuined
>>93808455What's colour pie break about it?
>>93808845No, by the time they notice it the fad will be over, it will be young people in the future looking at old cards and saying "What's with that decade where they didn't print white guys?"
>>93808845Here's your white males.
This art is cool
>>93808889but my narrative...
>>93808414fuck OFF WITH THE REDIRECTS
>>93808878It shuffles the card into the library which in many cases is better than better than destroying the card.
>>93808439Elevatorbros, we eatin
>>93807917Bless you, she looks good
>>93808874It was either kimono with bust or akward looking tube-top / cami to keep the midriff. I tried a few things and they looked awful. At the end of the day, I'm a tits guy so...
>>93808474All you have to do is flicker it while the ability is on the stack
>>93808908New myte?
>>93807917Hey man, I post here occasionally to make fun of people who complain about the lack of tits in MtG, especially when they make it political and frame themselves as an injured party, I think they're pathetic and hilarious. It's possible that I've given you shit at some point (if you posted without an image), and if so then I apologize, you're totally awesome and we're lucky to have you.
>>93808857Tyvar is W*lsh
>>93808560Nahiri's probably the one who blocked Zendikar off (when we last saw her she was planning to cut the plane off from everywhere else) so the Kor could just be from any point prior. If Val kidnapped a few Kor back before the Omenpaths opened there could be a population on Duskmourn.
>>93808043its sad but this dude is trash unplayable shit.
>>93808908>>93809031this one will be good in draft because it will trade with all the big enchantment creatures
>>93808455Nothing new here
>>93808889One of them is a nameless group, two are old characters. Plus they arent even in a standard set
>>93809220>Plus they arent even in a standard setWhat did he mean by this?
>>93809299Did we really need a second, shittier Cryptic Coat?
>>93809299I hate this plane so much.
>>93809184A creature that shuffles itself plus its blockers is old-hat, I remember gomazoa from Zendikar but I know there are older cards that do the same thing. There are also older examples of one-sided tucks in blue but not quite as old, Return to Ravnica had one I think.
>>93809299:DDDPFFRT>:DDD
>>93809299Just a worse Cryptic Coat. For what fucking reason?
>>93809249Theres no story to them. They dont want to make additional content for them
>>93809220I assure you, OTJ is indeed in standard.
I really don't think this set is good enough...
>>93809551Leylines and Glimmers seem pretty good.
>>93809499Thats my bad, i thought that was mh symbol. I full skipped that set. The rest of the point stands though.
Alright, this one made me chuckle.
>>93809688They have two separate Ring references? Feels odd. I mean, sure, it's a massively foundational one, but still. At least reference the well for a second card.
>>93809729Think that one's a Poltergeist reference.
Never seen a set with such a large discrepancy in art before. Some of the cards are absolute kino, and some are pure cringe.
>>93809830The horror part is pretty fucking cool. Everything related to the survivors is pure fucking dogshit.
>>93805650>>93808455Blue can do anything idiot
>>93809688>activate only oncePer turn? Per game? Per Phase? What the FUCK is it with this motherfucking game and not clearly explaining what the cards do anymore?
>>93809830>SurvivorsHot absolute shit>Monsters and horrorAbsolute KinoDont know why add the survivor part honestly. They had enough with Clowns, Masked Monsters, Toys, Ghosts and Enchantment creatures.
>>93809902It means "per game". They figured out that people were reading the comprehensive rules so they started offloading rules text into the comprehensive rules instead of putting it on cards.
>>93809902Once
>>93809824The seven makes me think it's another Ring reference personally. At least mechanically.
>>93808455>Instant speed tap effect Perfect card for my Hilda jank pile
>>93809902"Activate only once" has existed multiple times before, it just means once per instance of this card existing.
>>93809688>Get black and white TV for free or pay lifr for color TV
>>93810017Oh my fucking god is that the joke.
>>93807349BOOOOOORING!
>>93808470Man if this set was just shit like this it would be so good...
The only rooms i ser myself playing are the black and the white ones.
>>93809956Flavorful ability, but god that name is such a flimsy pun and the flavor text is terribly lame.
>>93807713Yeah, but then why make a plane based around 80's/90's horror and be coy about it. They could have just made this a demon house in Innistrad, owned by a crazy Geist researcher that got tech from other planes through omenpaths and the house growing and expanding would be the big problem to solve.Done. You can even tie up the "advanced" technology to the bullshit Fomori storyline they are trying to create. There, I "fixed" the whole setting premise.
>>93809551Shut up, that fucking 3 mana board wipe alone makes this set broken, let alone all the other overtly broken shit
>>93808414Ok, to whoever is actually following the lore. Why do these guys all have uniforms and how do they have laboratories of the house is supposed to be completely under the control of this demon?
>>93809989In alchemy they could actually do that, the first person to draft the card is the only one who can use that ability and then the rules text disappears for everyone else.
>>93808439Beast card for limited. Removal AND a wincon.
>>93810020https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGB_color_model
>>93810081The uniforms are never really explained, because in-lore all they really have is what's left, or stuff literally just make from wallpaper. The labs are explained, the safe zones of the House do have people who work to make tech to try and help survive with. The safe zones existed because Valgavoth didn't want to kill ALL of them otherwise he'd run out of food, though they're less safe now with the advent of Omenpaths meaning he has a neverending supply to pull from, in theory. The tech is APPARENTLY just repurposed old magitech, bu the art again doesn't really bear that out. They REALLY don't look post-apocalyptic. They look like outsiders who ventured in to figure shit out.
>>93808813Yeah, you would have to splash a second color or something and actually use your brain during drafts, can't have that.
>>93809084Welsh people aren't white? Could have fooled me.
>>93807917The saint of justice, righting wrongs once again.Bless you, good sir.
>>93810155Common mistake, but they're actually a form of quasi-sapient sheep.
>Casually enables a T2 kill in Standard of all placesWhat the fuck were they smoking
>Every card name is either a lazily copied idiom or a cringe pun
>>93810137Ok, I was aware of the safe zones, yeah, but there's a big jump from "Space where monsters would eat your face during the night" and "Place where you can actually sit down and do research/build shit."It would have been a better explanation that all this ghost shit was gear left by the people trying to kill the demon when the house first started to expand and now the survivors randomly find them scattered around and try to make it work as best as they can.Also, a good plot reason why all the "ghost busters" didn't manage to kill the demon? That's all ghost gear and the demon is a demon. The tech is ineffective against a real demon.
>>93810196There's only one real actively fighting survivor group, the Benefactors. The rest of the survivors are mostly just scraping by, I guess. I suppose you could say most of the survivors we've seen are just Benefactors, but we saw almost nothing of them in-story, so.
>>93809688Would have been better if it only made BW at first, then you'd have to add time counter to give it RG(U), and seven of them for the creature. but it's still a pretty neat joke
>>93810221They already used the 7 counters gimmick on the red card that deals 20 damage to you
>>93808894>>93808553>Fear of the DarkIt sucks... Those designers are retarded.>>93809688I didn't got the W or B and the pay 1 for U,G, or R at first.Then I remembered White and Black, and BLUE/GREEN/RED...What a retarded card, If it was in a UB set It would be ok but...Holly shit I hate modern wotc so much.>>93809956I have no words.
>>93810360>"oh the card specifically made as a draft pick isn't very good!!!!!!!!!"Stop being such a bitter faggot
>>93810432"Draft cards" are a scam, drafting is more fun when the cards are more balanced (all closer to the same power level), the real reason for dreg commons is to turn the packs into a lottery so that people will have to buy more packs in order to get the same number of playable cards.
>>93810183>Getting upset as SOVLYou deserve nothing but the worst AI art on cards
>>93810488Why would you buy packs for any reason other than to draft?
We had Chainsaw, now here's just Saw.
>>93810591That's just directly naming a card after a movie.
>>93810591>Saw>nothing it does is a crimeAmazing flavor!
Just finished a BLB draftDid they just fucking forget to put removal in the set or something?
I like Duskmourn.
>>93810167You play this? I scoop, and rope you if possible for the max amount of time possible. Simple as. If i will not be able to play you will pay for your cheated win.
>>93810824I'm curious about drafting it, the only delirium format I've ever played was MH2, which had a ton of other archtypes
>>93810819Instead, there are 27 combat tricks.
>>93810819What colors were you in, there's a good deal of it a lot of them are just kinda bad at first glance.
>>93810957>What colors were you in, there's a good deal of it a lot of them are just kinda bad at first glance.GB. The only removal I saw all draft was that white bat one that hits tapped creatures, i didn't see a single removal piece in G, B, R or U that wasn't a pile of absolute trash
>>93811010Seems like a skill issue, I was regularly pulling plenty of solid removal in black.
>>93811010Seems like just poor luck. Black has a ton of removal in BB and green has to common fight/ bite spells
Feel like this could've just been "Fear of Fire" instead of something so specific and frankly incredibly reasonable.
Also sort of seems like we're getting "anti-Glimmer" cards which feels odd for a new type.
>>93811111Satyr Firedancer was never playable despite only costing 1R and it didn't need you to bark like a seal to get its effect. (Its also an enchantment creature as well, just in case that ever matters.)
>>93810432Imagine making "you member" set and not making good cards out of the references...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bePCRKGUwAY
>>93811134Greasechads eating good
>>93811134Is this better than the satyr or raffine informant? Maies the combo more consistent but nees to survive
>>93811181Doesn't get you a vehicle on turn 3 unless you run something that can tap it on turn 2 like springleaf
>>93811181Goes pretty hard with Springleaf Drum.
>Make very good reviewed cube>No one wants to play it>Entire store just wants to play commander>But not strong commander>It has to be just right commander>It has to be fun for everyone commander>Buy some precon>Join in>It takes 5 fucking hours of people just trying to scam and fool and argue dumb shit but they call it POLITICSI just wanted some fun skillful draft, it's free, its a skill, it has fun cards, commander fuckin' SUCKS.I don't get it, is it because it's baby gloves that its so popular?
Three Tree City needs four creatures of the same type in play (and two other lands) to have a net benefit. The only reason it's $20 is Commander players, right? There's no way Rabbits token spam is doing well enough in Standard to justify that price tag
>>93811326Anon, Commander has been the main price driver for cards for several years now. There is the occasional exception, but this is how it is.
>>93811256Someone explained it to me once, commander players don't really play Magic. They're there to socialize and hang out, what they're actually doing in the meantime is secondary. It might provide a topic to talk about or fluff to fill in lulls in the conversation, but ultimately the actual activity doesn't really matter.
>>93811345This. EDH is a boardgame played with Magic cards and is treated as such by most players. If you are even vaguely interested in the actual mechanics or gameplay of the game, then avoid EDH as those are not the focus.
>>93811345Gross. I wanna play Magic not tug each other off.
>>93811345I play Commander to win. I want to win doing something goofy like going wide with Seven Dwarves, but I want to win
>>93811134this a strong card wtf
Nice for vehicles and mounts, I guess.
wasn't there a whole thing about how they couldn't do split creatures until they created mdfc's due to memory issueswhy is that suddenly a non-factor now, and don't just say "oh you can get the other one later" that doesn't fix the problem at hand>because arenaok, yeah I know. but what's their excuse?
>>93811345Idk how this is hard for people to understandYou think games like Magic or Warhammer have had lasting popularity for their intricate game design and mechanics? No dude it's because they're something you and your retard friends can be retarded together with
I'm autistic, so I've been wondering how the hell you're supposed to call the room cards. By their first room, both?Then I noticed that they're all two words, and 1st word goes with the 2nd on the other half.Central Stairs / Promising ElevatorDollmaker's Gallery / Porcelain ShopFuneral Hall / Awakening RoomMirror Realm / Fractured RoomSmoky Salon / Misty LoungeYeah. So pick one.
>>93811529A Room has both of its names unless it's on the battlefield, where it has the names of its currently-open doors.
>>93811518If that was the case for everybody, then it wouldn't matter what game they playing, and Magic or Warhammer wouldn't have lasted as long as they have. Not to mention digital card games where people aren't playing with friends, what's your excuse for shit like Hearthstone? The majority of players care about the design and mechanics of a game, they're not so easily interchangeable.
>>93811529Blue big roomBlue small roomIzzet roomWhite roomBlack roomThere. Done.
not even all this 'graveyard matters" will make dredge a thing and that makes me sad.
>>93811529The monowhite one and the monoblack one make a decent comboHave Dollmaker's Shop and Funeral Room up, throw bunches of creatures at your opponent to wear him down, then depending on board state in the late game use either Porcelain Gallery or Awakening Hall to close out
>>93811601Can the black room have a place in a sac shell? The 3 effect seems good and in late you can just completely fuck your oppo
>>93811529Don't forget, a Room has mana value equal to the combined costs of its two Doors. So for example the monoblack room has a mana value of eleven
>>93810664Imagine waking up in one of those jigsaw rooms and he asks you to play mtg
>>93811636depends on the format
>>93811636The only way those movies would become actually enjoyale mate. What a trash of a saga.
>>93811636Worse. You wake up with other people, and you have to play commander. First to go, dies. And then the second, and so.
>you have bear trap on the head>you must win or die>jigsaw plays phoenixyour choice anon?
>>93811655Even worse, you're forced to play commander and nobody dies. You're just stuck in there forever.
>>93811636>I wanna play a game>Sitting before you is a pile of unopened Wilds of Eldraine booster packs>You will draft these packs >Whoever wins the most games gets to live
>>93811636>>93811643Jigsaw's an elderly man who loves puzzles, he's going to make you play Dead Man's Hand
>>93811655Killing commander vermins at the horrible price of play their shit casual format? Difficult choice.
>>93811636Imagine Jigsaw forces you to play Modern and he plays Nadu or One ring... Oh boy i just will ask him to kill me fast...
>>93811702>>93811681>>93811674can you just activate the bear trap on my face and get it over with?
It's over, friends, it finally happened. After years of carefully sifting through every piece of Jace x Liliana smut and religiously masturbating to it daily, I decided it was time to, well, go along with the times.I am now a proud Jace x Vraska shipper. You should be too.
>>93810041but anon, the Elevator is blue!
>>93811643it's you favorite format! and he has new cards from x horizons set designed by MaRo just for it
>>93811766They had an insufferable mutant step child sadly.
>set about old horror movies>no naked blondes????
>>93811794Don't worry, Valgavoth has him. Hopefully will kill him.
>>93811814well, at least it has plenty of black tokens
>>93811449I mean, it is a retarded design but it works (specially if you follow the split spell cmc, mc rules).It is one card. The mana cost is the sum of both cards. It has two abilities but you choose one to play and then can "unlock" the other.The only problem I see with the design is the name of the card. Will it always read as both names or the opened doors name and both in other zones or both are open?
>>93811794Only after making 100% absolutely sure that nutting inside over and over wouldn't work the old fashioned way, so I'll allow it.
>>93811134yo this is kinda insanebetween springleaf drum and 1-drops like this, you can enable it very easily
>>93811794Leave Loot out of this, you monster.>>93811814Do we have a list of the planeswalker involved in the storyline that doesn't require me to read said storyline?
>>93811625might as well mill them
>>93811134lol. this is "protection from coyotes" from OTJ all over again, anon. don't worry about it.
>>93811814Sorry anon >>93805554 this is the maximum amount of skin a woman can show in current MtG
>>93811766He can just have both. Interplanar demigods don't care about marriage laws.
>>93811924trannies and lesbians? fine. cleavage? no way man think of the children
>>93811134It's not new, they love their draft shaft hate card
>>93811931They care about threats of petrification.
>>93811681What was wrong with WOE draft?
they need to reprint every single halfway playable ice age card. This set probably has the worst cardstock of any set ever printed.
>>93811766>Jace x LilianaLilian is for redemption via Gideon's dick
I'm only sexually attracted to unnamed commons and uncommons.
>>93811969This is honestly all Coldsnap should have been - a reprint on actual good stock. It is incredible that you can find perfectly mint Mirage / Visions / Weatherlight without issues (hell, they look better than some of the actual new print run sets I've seen recently) but finding good Ice Age cards is a waste of time.I got a ton of dark and washed out cards from my local shop from ONE. The same store also had a ton of the "yellow" looking white cards from ELD and Dominaria. Shit is just cursed around here.
>>93811449>why is that suddenly a non-factor nowBecause Arena can handle it pretty well
I'm sorry >>93811766, but >>93811987 is right and correct. See the attachment from the same comic line you posted.That said, Gideon is like the whore of the fandom. I read a fic with him and Rakdos once.
This fucking set is going to push standard into a turn 2-3 formatwizards keep pushing the power level and the #1 way they do that is with pushed 1-2 mana cardslook at this shit. If you looked at 1 drop cards in any other set, you'd get draft chaff. What did 1 mana get you in war of the spark? Banehound lmao, grim initiate, charmed spray, wall of runes. Arboreal grazer I guess lmaoevery card is either pushed above the curve powerhouse here or an attempt to make a pushed card that will not find a hope. Some will straight up break formats like turn inside out, and ethereal armor is dangerous. Effects that used to cost 2 mana like shardmage's rescue.
>>93812012I had a wet dream about pic related once. I used to run four of her in an Orzhov token deck. Interesting experience.
>>93811684>he thinks the Avatar of Woe wants to have his baby.B-B-BASED!For the puzzle:[Skyshroud Ranger] tap, put island in play.island tap, Waterfront bouncer ability, discard Skyshroud Behemoth put the Balduvian Horde in hand (lands available after this: Swamp, Island, Forest)Play Cave-In by its cheat cost exiling the Horde. Deal 2 to everything, Eugene is at 1, the Bouncer, the Ranger, the token dies. forest tap, play reclaim, target the Cave-in, put it on top of the deck (lands available after this: Swamp, Island)Tap Island for manaCast Gush by its cheat cost and return 2 island to draw 2 (lands available after this: Swamp)(one avaible U mana)Draw the Cave-in and the Diamond Valley.Play Diamond Valley, use its ability to sacrifice the verdant force, Eugene gains 7 life, going to 8.Cast Reanimate, targeting the Skyshroud Behemoth, lose 7 life, go to 1.Use the last U mana to cast Twiddle to untap the Behemoth. Use Battle Rampart to give it haste, attack!>>93811814Oh, geez, you want empowered black woman with blonde hair to show their naked bodies to satisfy male audiences?
>>93811966This art is shit
>>93811923>>93811134that's not even a hoserthey printed grafdigger's cage in innistrad just to tell people to fuck off with any attempt at graveyard strategies
>>93812012Good choice
>>93812150My tastes are of different refinement.
>>93811766I genuinely don't give a single fuck about MtG lore, writing and characters.
>>93812194Just imagine the smell.
>>93811681WOE is unironically the most tolerable draft format of the last year. Now MKM that would be some proper torture shit
>>93811967It was the least fun I've had drafting a set in a while
>opponent turn 1 leyline, mountain, cacophony scamp>emotes "your go"Gonna have to give up on MTGA this year the first time I see that
>>93811684Inquest ftw. I used to have a subscription back in the day, and that puzzle was my favorite part of the magazine.
>>93812239WOE draft is beaten the fuck out by nuIxalan draft and you fucking know itDon't come at me with that bullshit
>>93812328>the third or fourth red "double damage" enchantment over the past two yearsCreatively / mechanically bankrupt confirmed.
>>93812337wow literally lich's mastery at home
>>93812340I did some maths some threads ago, and off al the cards that allowed you to play cards without paying their mana cost more than half were printed in the last 4 years.
>>93811814I've seen honest-to-God feminists complaining about the lack of bimbos in the set lol.>>93812337You have no idea how angry I am that they made a shit Lich's Mastery instead of just reprinting it for the set. It's my favourite fucking card.
>>93812338Nah LCI was shite. The format was even more heavy aggro than WOE and descend being shite meant black and to a lesser extent green were absolutely awful. Not to mention that amount of absolutely disgusting bombs in a format where removal options were mostly mediocre
>>93812337What in the actual fuck is this lmao
>>93812328i would really love to see this become a thing but i just don't know how.
>>93812439Probably just started from the idea of "hand = life". More narrow than Lich's Mastery, though, and unlike Mastery you can emergency bounce it if you need to.
>>93812411>black and to a lesser extent green were absolutely awfulEither you got filtered or you were playing Bo1The combination of Craft and Explore giving you shit to do in your downtime, some extremely well balanced counter spells and removal, bombs that never felt oppressive, and well balanced creatures and combat tricks made for a great draft enviroment. Thems the truth
>>93811684Okay I'm a little rusty, lets see how I do. >Tap Ranger, put Island in play>Tap all lands, float 2 blue mana, 1 Green, 1 Black>Play Twiddle for shits and giggles on an island, add another blue mana, 2U 1G 1B>Play regrowth to put twiddle on top of the library 2U,1B>Play Gush, return both islands to hand>Draw Twiddle and Diamond Valley>Play Diamond Valley for Turn>Tap Diamond Valley, Sacrifice Horde, go up to 8.>Pay U, tap bouncer, Discard Behemoth to put the ranger back in hand. 1U,1B>Play Reanimate targeting behemoth, go 1 life. 1U.>Play Twiddle, Untapping behemoth>Tap Rampart, giving behemoth haste.>Swing for 18 with Behemoth, Verdant Force and Saporling
>>93812340ikr? there has been one every set since first fucking eldraine
>>93812388and it shows
>clowns>cheerleaders>ghostbustersThis set is breaking the immersion too hard
>>93812328I need an Oni-Cult anvil enabler already WotC...
>>93812484>regrowthDamn it I mean reclaim, I always mix those two cards up.
>>93812328unplayably baddelirium is such a shit keyword it holds back cards like this that could have otherwise been usefulat x>0 this is premium dogshit, way too much mana for little damage, doesn't hit players, worse than every sweeper. Brotherhoods end, temporal firestorm, etc, just play them, easier to make them one sided with big buttsbut wait it doubles damage in burn decks! play it in your deck of mass shock, lightning strike/helix, throw some sorceries or even battles like invasion of regatha, enchantments like virtue, case of the crimson pulse. ohyou can't get anything in your own graveyard except instants and sorcerieslands if you run fabled passage I guessthat's 3 type and it needs 4Garbage mechanic that ruins otherwise decent cards. The green mill-a-turn 1 drop that turns into a 3/3? Its just a wildly worse version of deathbonnet sprout, which only needed 3 creature cards, very easy to enable for a self-mill creature deck. And it kept growing.
>>93812516It's the screens that does it for me.
>>93812516a literal un-set
>>93812516Im fine with clowns though. Wish they did a better work on them, specially the Jolly ballon, he could have been a fair kiki saga
>>93811850>It is one card. The mana cost is the sum of both cards"One card," then literally in the next sentence "both cards." You probably didn't even realize you were doing it. This is the real reason these cards are so obnoxious
>>93812541yeah that's a bridge too far
>>93812469Funnily enough I'd basically say that about WOE lol. Good options for removal/ interaction in every colour, bargain added nice element of depth to tokens and enchantments, adventures for getting extra value from creatures if needed made for a fun, diverse meta.
>>93812043Holy shit, did All That Glitters get powercrept?
>>93812593oh man and I thought /edhg/ was bad at magic
>>93812394Variety is the spice of life. You can always have a little bit of bimbo, as a treat. Overwatch is DEI-compliant and it has Widowmaker in a leotard with a plunging neckline and heels, right?
>>93812648tell that to wotc
>>93812043Good, standard needed this. If you want to play a slow format fuck off to pauper or draft
what the fuck is a finality counter and when did they add them
>>93812556As a Resident Clown Fucker, these clowns are not endearong in any clown way, be it scary, cute,or fuckable. Hard pass on these clowns random Rakdos goons do it better
>>93812668I hope Concord bombing so fucking hard will teach them the lesson.
>>93812751First showed up in Lost Caverns of Ixalan. They're like shield counters, in that the only way to know what they do is to read the comprehensive rules, or reminder text. In this case, if a creature with a finality counter would go to the graveyard, it's exiled instead
>>93812753Their circus on the other hand is a 10/10. Would get molested by a clown there
>>93812751>what the fuck is a finality counterIf it dies, exile it instead.>and when did they add themIxalan, I think?Among all weird and convoluted mechanics they added, they're pretty straightforward.>>93812753You clown fuckers have just had your Massacre Girl like three sets ago, let it rest.
>>93812754does it have free spells?
>>93812754Concord had a designated fanservice character and even she sucked
>>93812776Never.
>>93812776>Massacre Girl>Not even a clownI want fucking clowns man, i would be happy with a single op playable clown even.
>>93812788I don't know, like most people I didn't play it.
>>93811256i would draft with you but i suck at draft and probably live on the other side of the planet
>>93812328this is so close to be a good red MHM but it's just too expensive...
>>93812337What do we do after we draw the entire deck?
>>93807702Best I can imagine is some devotion pile with Gray Merchant of Asphodel
>>93812043>ethereal armor kills you on turn 3>turn inside out kills you on turn 2>valgavoth's faithful kills you on turn 4 (actually enigma jewel will work but can't curve the mill)>norin and clockwork both pushed aggro cards but not good enough for RDW anyway but still offensive>skullcrab would be broken as fuck if mill was a thing>shardmage is just a slightly worse white version of Royal Treatment since there's no ward {1} on later turns and the main draw would be that it works with light paws but that just rotated so too bad>fear of lost death is like a better gnawing vermin for whatever black enchantment tribal could exist>unconditional white low cost removal that totally fucks up fair decks and ruins midrange but is actually counterproductive against degenerate aggro decks, AGAIN (like 4th version in the same standard rotation)yeah that's some fucking obnoxious roundup of 1 dropswhy can't we get low cost cards that actually hose the broken strategies like aggro instead of lost cost cards that hose fair graveyard combo decksThe following card better fucking exist in this set:>Fatal Trip {B}>Instant>Destroy target creature if it has converted mana cost 2 or less.>Delirium - Destroy that creature if it has converted mana cost 4 or less if there are four or more types of cards in your graveyard
>>93812337Isnt this a better liches mastery?
>>93812774>circus theme>boros coloursI get that you could work with it thematically, but it feels wrong.
>>93810591Will we get Chain?
>>93812811>attach this to yourself>infinite clowns
>>93812896If you have 2 cards in hand, 12 in graveyard and 8 permanents on board as you cast eitherLich's mastery gives you an effective 22 life and the first 12 costs you 'nothing'Grimoire gives you 7 life, and you've drawn 5 cards of gas, but if you take 7 damage on the backswing you simply lose the game on the spotCasting lich's mastery usually gives you a turn or two to stabilize even without a combo. Casting grimoire might just outright kill you
>>93812328>Guns is too much technology>>93812340yep, we have one of those at least once each year.>>93812516>Guns not allowedWe also have chainsaw and TVs>>93812548>Attack-in-the-boxFire whoever gave that name!>>93812753Don't ever give up hope!>>93812774Are all clowns W & R? (Why does every set has to have a tribe or play type in a specific color pair? Why does wizards make so inorganic designs? This draft archetype bullshit is so fucking lazy)
>>93812918Jolly Balloon Man is legendary
>>93812337>After my turn 5 sunfall to reset the board while I'm at 12 life, I tap out and cast Marina Vendrell's Grimoire, now I'll draw 5 car->.......>In response to the ETB trigger, I cast lightning strike targeting your face>you discard the last card in your hand and lose the game>good game, play another?How the fuck could they think this is okay
>>93812927The first roller coaster was built in the 1750s by people who weren't even whitehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_Mountain_(roller_coaster)
>>93812771>>93812776>If it dies, exile it instead.>codified into a counterneat i guess, but it does make the game feel like Hearthstone with it's endless keywording
>>93812896More of a sidegrade. This gives you less initial boost and opponents can more easily remove it, but it has a less harsh downside and can be sacrificed or bounced if you want to.
>>93812887Grimoire with Sheoldred out just kills you unless you have a Lab Maniac/Mysterious Jace or other deck-out preventer.
>>93812328>>93811134>>93809688Just make marvel standard legal at this point. Fuck.
>>93812887if you're ever forced to draw from an empty deck, you lose the gameunless of course you have one of those two blue cards with the replacement effects of "if you deck out you actually win instead!" one from the good old times and one is a Jace; plus there's Thassa's Oracle to win slightly faster by playing her before you deck out but wheen the deck is still low, but you'll need to give her flash or instant-speed flicker which would probably make the deck 3 colors which is a lot
>>93808753An ongoing consequence of bombs being at all rarities now. Play boosters kinda suck shit.
>>93812968ok, guns exists since before the 1600s.Guns are more primitive than roller coaster rides, yet it is too much technology for magic the gathering while roller coasters (newer tech) and TVs are ok. fuck off, retarded shill
>>93813026I don't know why, like, just a flintlock or whatever is too much, either. Guns don't have to be THAT modern. There's some really medieval-looking firearms.
>>93812328I'm willing to try make this sweet thing work in Pio, i still have to see how, but i will try.
>>93813087>>93813087>>93813087
>>93812976I get your complaints, but I would still get heartstone keywording over yugi textwalls any day.
>>93813111that is also true, though YgayO only has walls of text because they don't have structure, and every card has to explain itself in a way that doesn't need you to know what layers are or that replacement effects only replace each effect once per effect
>>93813097you forgot to update the previous thread again you imbecill
>>93804113Leyline of the void is in standard again, this is a wet fart.
>>93813151oops
