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>>93813087>TQ>white cardWithout even reading the text I know it deserves it
>>93813087I will enjoy playing Agg-AACK
>>93813087>>TQ>Can it be unbanned in the current year?What? Intangible Virtue? Is it even banned? WTF?
>>93813130>2 mana sorceryYou're already dead lol
>>93813087>TQ
>>93813130In response, I pump my creatures and you die
>mfw people are starting to realize that UB opened the doors to allow these hodgepodge of references, memes, and tacked on parasitic one set mechanics sets to exist and it is only going to get worse.
Actual previous thread>>93803995
>>93813195>red agro deck holding back mana and not pushing damage on t2game 2?
>>93813200If by UB you meant Innistrad, then yeah.
rumao why would it be banned?
>>93813174when they have taken so much from you that you don't even remember block constructed
>>93813195>>93813219respectfully, you're both tardedeither HH is a 1/1, you are on the drawthen it dies and opp takes 1 damage or HH is a 3/3 already and pyro does nothing
>>93813200Other way around, it's the success of theme park sets that's made Wizards bolder in using other IPs.
>>93813220It was actually Portal Three Kingdoms
>>93813326actually it was arabian nights
>>93813326>>93813336That's less references and more directly copying media.
>>93813130i can't wait for all the aggro decks to eat each other up so i dont have to lose to them anymore
>>93813260>Wanting to play either RW humans or WB sorin spiritsIt can stay banned in block constructed. Also BC was only a thing while the set was in extended.
>>93813130>all of the full arts are sold out alreadyshit
>yawgmoth knows the germ theory of disease and artifice>urza figures out how to clone entire armies>the thran have a fucking death star>simic can directly manipulate genomes>karn builds an entire mechanical plane>ravnicans have public sanitation in a worldwide metropolis>kaladeshis build robots and aircraft>every household on fiora has an android servant>the invasion was fought by nine mecha>noooooo you can't have a TELEVISION in my magic the gathering
>>93813411Correct
>cast this>opponent responds to ETB trigger with lightning helix
>>93813411>lists a bunch of science fiction concepts>NOOOOOOOOO, REAL LIFE THINGS ARE THE SAME, TOASTER EQUALS DEATH STAR YOU SHOULD HATE BOTH EQUALLY
>>93813411bmwinlotr.jpg
>>93813433why would i cast that?am i playing edh or something?
>>93813411Yes. If you can't have firearms, flint pistols, etc then you can't have television in magic.
>>93813087>enchant heavy set>ethereal armorruh roh shaggy
>>93813411yes though i think kaladesh is kinda lame too and vehicles are stupid
>>93813411>>ravnicans have public sanitation in a worldwide metropolisDo Russians really believe public sanitation is high technology that only a few advanced societies can accomplish?
>>93813411I'd be fine with them having a television if it was just a television, instead of a magical spirit box that projects visions of the ghost dimension through the power of an entrapped demon which just so happens to look exactly like a television.
>>93813087Why must you keep doing this? You clearly don't know how to threads so just stop.Previous Thread>>93803995
Love these 3 new landsThey're very good and fit the assignment. Plains, Island and Forest that still feel like they're inside an endless mansion.Good work, artists, I will be adding them to my collection
>>93813896Great card Curious Cadaver needed to cost less to be good.
I guess I'm just done with magic: the gatheringthis is the worst set ever printed and there's nothing here for anyone who cares about the game at all.
>>93813989sorry couldn't hear you over the sound of me grinding turn 2 wins in standard with leylinedotdec :^)
>>93813906nice art , reminds me of american mcgees Alice.
Does anyone know if this is called a rokurokubi in the Japanese version of the game?
>>93813989But anon WAR was 5 years ago
>>93813989>this is the worst set ever printed Dude we JUST had Mandarins at Koolio's Manor come on
>>93813411The difference is that the former are all 'it's magic, it just works'. Even Kaladesh which would be 'pushing it' has a strong theme of arcane energy powering everything. The televisions don't even make an attempt to appear like magical artifice, they're just straight rips of past century TV sets ported into a fantasy game.
>>93813989the racing set is only four months away, can't wait that long for this kind of shitpost?
>turn 1 enigma jewel>turn 2 legion extruder, kill one creature>opponent attacks into my tapped down board with his 2/2>I already have another enigma jewel in hand anywayhonestly they never see it coming
>>93814164Which was worse, MKM or OTJ? I heard the former at least had a decent draft experience
>>93814186When Death Race or whatever it's called comes out, I'm making a vehicle cube. Best case scenario it's a disaster but in a funny way
>>93814238MKM was extremely low powered so nothing in it matters and I never need to see it. OTJ was extremely powercrept so we're going to be stuck seeing it for the next 3 years in Standard. Therefore OTJ was worse.
>>93814238MKM draft was just Khans but again and worse. And Khans already wasn't a great set to draft beyond the 3 color gimmickI actually had quite a bit of fun with OTJ draft. I feel like several different play styles each had a fair amount of representation
>>93814318>MKM was extremely low powered so nothing in it mattersSurveil landsVein RipperLeylineNo More LiesPick Your Poison
>they're bringing back delirium for BG>after multiple sets where BG has a tonne of cards focused on exiling stuff from your graveyard>in the same set that brings leyline of the void back into standard>shortly after bringing rest in peace back into standardDelirium is going to be dead on arrival.
>>93814364Doesn't really matter since the meta is probably gonna be RDW variants vs Sweepers.dek
>>93814353>landsNo one really cares about lands since they don't have the gay fedoras and pop culture references.>vein ripperOnly a problem when paired with Sorin, who's now banned in the only format he mattered in.>leylineYeah, leylines are gay and should have never been made.>no more lies, pick your poisonTwo cards is basically nothing, you'll barely ever see them.
>>93814386This is like the ultimate /mtg/ "I've lost the argument and I refuse to admit it" post
>>93814399It should be immediately obvious than when someone says "nothing" in a context like this, they don't literally mean "nothing at all, not a single thing, absolutely zero things". Please google what "hyperbole" means.
>>93814386I don't think MKM is a fantastically powerful set, but it's not THAT weak. MOM is arguably worse since it's got jackshit besides, what, Sunfall and Knight-Errant?
>>93814385I know it's hard to believe, but it's possible to play Standard in paper. It's not a digital-only format. In fact, BG is the most popular color pair when played this way.
>>93814432It's just crammed in between a bunch of very powercrept sets. Definitely one of the weaker ones in standard right now.
>>93814415Just between the lands, leyline, and Pick Your Poison it had more of an impact outside of Standard than a lot of recent sets
>>93814386Case of the Uneaten FeastNovice InspectorCase of the Gateway ExpressDoorkeeper ThrullNot on My WatchNo WitnessesBehind the MaskCase of the Filched FalconDeduceProft's Eidetic MemoryCryptic CoatReenact the CrimeConspiracy UnravelerCase of the Stashed SkeletonLong GoodbyeDeadly Cover-UpVein RipperOutrageous RobberyFelonious RageShockFugitive CodebreakerPyrotechnic PerformerCase of the Crimson PulseLamplight PhoenixTorch the WitnessAnalyze the PollenPick Your PoisonAftermath AnalystArchdruid's CharmNo More LiesGleaming GeardrakeIll-Timed ExplosionAssassin's TrophyInsidious RootsUrgent NecropsyBreak OutWorldsoul's RageLightning HelixWarleader's CallBuried int he GardenKellen, Inquisitive ProdigyRepulsive MutationVoja, Jaws of the ConclavePush // PullCease // DesistLeyline of the GuildpactScene of the CrimeHAVE ALL SEEN PLAY
>>93814450I only play Limited, Standard, and Commander so I'll admit, I don't know how sets impact those formats.
>>93814454Luv me case of the filched falconSimple as
>>93814386the surveil lands were revolutionary for graveyard-centric decks in modern, you cannot comprehend how hard I nut my pants when I fetch at end of my opponents turn and I get a free entomb when playing living end or esper goryoseriously, they're insanely good, I cannot go back after getting used to them
My friend thinks people should Path of Exile their own creature for sick value but are too cowardly. Please help me understand this madness.
>>93814502There's some real gems that haven't even had time to shine much like Break Outabsolutely busted if the format had combo creatures at 2 mana like collected company decks, or real snowball attacking creatures at 2 instead of just ETB>digs SIX cards deep AND gives haste>sees zero play in standard because all the value is disproportionately at 1 and 3 mana except deep cavern bat
>>93814534It's a good mana ramper but an even better removal spell that you have to use it as removal except in edge case scenarios.
>>93814560>non green colors>1 mana rampREEEEEeeeee
>NOOOOO NOT A SET THAT REFERENCES HORROR MEDIA IN MY FRANCHISE ABOUT AN INFINITE UNIVERSE OF POTENTIAL PLANES>WHERE IS MY GENERIC MIEDIVAL FANTASY ×1000!Please keep coping
>>93814620>NOOOOOO I NEED THE BMW 5 SERIES 530I WITH OPTIONAL HEATED SEATING IN MY FANTASY GAME
>>93814620Is that what you think people's complaints are?
>>93814672I think someone saw the argument about the infinite potential in the multiverse and is now attempting to shitpost with it as a false flag to discredit it. As someone who supports that argument, Duskmourn looks like trash for completely unrelated reasons, namely that it's not even internally consistent. I don't care if different planes don't fit each other's aesthetics, they shouldn't fit each other's aesthetics, but Duskmourn can't even keep its own shit straight.
>>93814620I don't like it when my fantasy game references the modern world. The fantasy is also not generic or particularly medieval, but it has been MADE generic by people who don't understand why the world that existed before steam power captures people's imagination.
These three cards put together are so fucking funny when they work but I just haven't been able to build a deck for it. Although I have very little experience building outside aggro and midrange so that's probably why.But still >why yes I will be hitting you with an effectively hasted evasive 7/7>and yes I will hit you with an effectively hasted 8/7 that gives me free shit if you try to removal it
>>938148074x enigma jewel, you're welcome
>>93813989>this is the worst set ever printedNothing will beat Ikoria for that prize.Murders at Karlov Manor was particularly atrocious too. I'd put DSK at MKM level and not IKO level.
>>93815228>banned in VINTAGE>worse set ever
>>93815276>Too stupid to parse worst as in quality from worst as in power level.Drink less tap water, my guy.
>>93813411Yes, that is correct.Giant mechanical death machines are not boring ass regular ass boring ass normal ass literal earth technology.
>>93815278I wish the 4 mana land base was more forgiving because this would be great with break out and saturo
>>93815278You better have some removal in Limited or this is going to get BIG real fast.
>>93815228DSK is more like ELD with all this brazen power creep
>>93815278Well that's a nasty card
>>93813989Karlov Manor was the worst for me because it turned an entire plane with a long history (both in-universe and out) into a really fucking corny Sherlock Holmes knockoff. Duskmourn sucks dick in terms of flavour and aesthetics, but at least it's not wearing another plane as a costume.
>>93815325A fine assessment, but ELD had at least pretended to have worldbuilding.
>>93815345>Duskmourn sucks dick in terms of flavour and aesthetics, but at least it's not wearing another plane as a costume.Now I hope Duskmourne is revealed to be the far future of Innistrad ala Neon Dynasty so that it could be as truly atrocious as it deserves to be.
>>93813989Based
>>93813989The worst set printed so far.
>>93815369
>>93815305>turn 2 hallcreeper>turn 3 make it a 3/3>turn 4 draw a card>turn 5 copy your 5 drop with +2/+2
>>93813989why are you so emotionally invested in it?
>>93813087cryptic coat again?
>>93815439Cryptic Coat but worse
>>93815439Cryptic Coat but we forgot that this is the FIRE era.
>>93815439I really fucking hate the half-and-half approach MTG is taking with modern objects. I would actually find a varsity jacket less offensive if they didn't add glowy bits and a skyrim mage cowl to it.
>>93815441this is a value card for niche strategies that both utilize equipment and care about cards in the graveyard, rather than a 'make dudes' engine or 'true-name nemesis at home'. i agree it will likely always be worse than cryptic coat but may see play in fringe decks.
>>93815439Cryptic Coat was good because it won games in control stalled mirrors full of sweepers and removal, kept making 3/2 blockers vs aggro, triggers synthesizer repeatedly, etc.This makes a single 3/2 flying for 3
>>93815355>Now I hope Duskmourne is revealed to be the far future of Innistradthis is going to happen, i just know it
>>93815630>Isn't that a time paradox since the WAnderer was there?>"WotC already said that Valgavoth made everyone forget all the missing time!" The shills will say. I can hear their cries already.
>>93814386>Yeah, leylines are gay and should have never been made.The old leylines were cool. They were just little bonuses that weren't completely game-warping except blue, of course
>>93815589>This makes a single 3/2Actually it's just a 2/2 since it doesn't give +1/+0 like Cryptic Coat
>>93815704WotC you fucking morons, you're supposed to be power creeping the game, not fixing it!
>>93815711>Sorry, here's more T2 kills in Standard
>>93815728That's better.
>>93815728oh come on how bad can it really be>turn 1 leyline scamp>turn 2 turn inside out, felonious rage, your go
>>93815777Is it really any worse than what we have now?>T1 HH>T2 MM, HH hits for 4>T3 SSS, MR on HH, SSS hits for 3 in the air, HH hits for 12, MM hits for 1. HH explodes for another 6 if you happen to kill it
>>93815815>Is it really any worse than what we have now?Yes, in fact it is 33.333...% worse.
>>93813989When this kind of retards will leave for good and shut the fuck up?
>>93815815I'm on the draw, untap and get lost into temporary lockdownvsdie before my 2nd land
>>93813195Where can I get images like this one with square corners without the rounded edges. Scryfall is inconsistent some images have rounded corners some are square. There used to be a site that had everything, rounded and square, but it's long dead and everyone has stopped updating the card images.I know there's a proxy guide in the OP but I want the pre-squared images without having to crop every single one. I don't know why Scryfall isn't consistent about this the image quality is all over the place.
>>93815278Fuck this card can be very strong, unblockable, card adventage, grows and can become another better creature. Cool shit.
Leyline of Resonance will get emergency ban.Remember this.
>>93815981We don't need to remember that because we already had the blessed quints that said the same thing.
>>93815981>Leyline of Resonance will get emergency ban.you're being too optimistic
>>93815981>Leyline of Resonance will get emergency ban.Next B&R is December friend.You vill die on turn 2 and you vill like it.
I'm slowly realizing that Leyline of Resonance isn't even a dead card late game.It's actually the EXACT card you want if you're trying to put together second wind to secure a lethal you couldn't get out the gate.Leyline on turn 4, a haste creature + combat trick on turn 5 will oft en be more than enough to close out games you would otherwise not be able to secure.
>>93813087It feels like Strixhaven was just 6 months ago, and then I see someone asking "I haven't played since Strixhaven, what's the meta like now?" and it just fucks me up, I look it up and sure enough Strixhaven was 3 years ago. God, where did the time go? How does time just fall away into dust?
>>93816054>God, where did the time go? How does time just fall away into dust?Anon, your memory hole is leaking.That time was stolen, it didn't fade.
Commune with Evil (?) - 2BSorcery (Uncommon)Look at the top 4 cards of your library. Put one into your hand and the rest into your graveyard. Gain 3 life.
>>93816088>SorceryBoooooooooooooo.
4 heartfire hero4 cacophony scamp3 rotisserie elemental4 monastery swiftspear4 slickshot showoff4 turn inside out4 monstrous rage4 felonious rage3 dreadmaw's ire4 leyline of resonance4 callous sellsword
>>93816074Again, the rest of the plane's flavour seems good, but the survivors just seem like highschool characters in horror movies and not, you know, desperate survivors in a post-apocalyptic hellworld.
>>93816088Ah yes, the draft-to-budget-EDH pipeline
>>93816106i am not ready for this hell
Ah, there's "Slasher Movie Villain".
>>93816224>half their life, rounded upThe fact that generic slasher movie baddie is anything other than an unapologetic Phage clone is a disgrace
Is it healthy if I see a Limited bomb and instead of being excited to play it I sigh at the mental image of being BTFO by it?
>>93816252No that's the common MTG experience since Wurmcoil Engine.
>>93816249
>>93816074White woman being evil - checkWhite woman dying - checkI love how the collective unconscious is turning against the allies of the good cause.Card is ok, at 3 mana it wont see play if there is a cheaper option, but if it was 2 manas it would be FIRE good.>>93816224This card is ok. I don't mind much the word slasher being used here (would prefer "killer" or "maniac" but slacher doesn't break immersion as much as I thought)
>>93816224I think it would have been cooler if he came back with +1/+1 counters instead and lost one at the start of his turn.
>>93814439it has nothing to do with paper vs digital, it's all about people trying to play the best deck in the format or not
why is blue u why
>>93816024that's not when emergency bans happen
>>93816522because black is band you can't have two b
>>93816046classic leyline player copium
>>93816257well, if i didnt have removal for this I was already conceding on principle to avoid giving my opponent the rush of dread win
>>93816528black can be ai hate white as u so much it infuriates me
>>93815864I just pull from scryfall.
>>93816224not an instant kill but still pretty nasty
>>93816106Explain the need for rotisserie elemental, please.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6617468#paperis it based, podbros
>>93816587a is artifact, l is land, and c is colorless so the only way to have blue as B would be to have black as K
>>93813087I played 4 matches on MTGO tonight with UG iroan games midrange. I won against mono white humans, lotus field, rakdos tree and BG midrange. I won 2-0 against mono white with iroan games value and bigger guys and beat lotus with stubborn denial and otawara alongside a fast clock. I also beat cauldron 2-0 in two close games by scrapgorgering their stuff and outvaluing them with walkers and the games. BG midrange went to game 3 because I lose to sheoldred after getting my tiderbinder on it killed game 2. I played turn 2 games, turn 3 games, turn 4 games game 1 and they couldn't beat that so they brought in pick your poison which was funny but it wasn't enough for them to win game 3 where they had a bunch of interaction but no sheoldred to beat my big guys.
>>93816723based simic chad
>>93814807darksteel citadel with filched falcon and ensoul artifact is better. Just pad the other two artifacts out with some cheapo equips like bonesplitter darksteel axe etc that you can slap on soon after.
>>93816723Seems cool to me. How is your skeleton matchup?
>>93815355>>93815630>>93815646we've had a kor spoiled already, this is probably zendikar.
>>93816744ahh good old count blackula.
>>93816744damn
>>93813989What do you mean you don't want a definitely-not-stranger-things unset in standard??!?
>>93816842we are all just waiting for the wotc reveal of the crying room//safe room.
>>93815824>wotc cocksucker>is mexicanevery time
>>93816760>we've had a kor spoiled alreadyThat doesn't really mean much since Omenpaths can now just dump literally anyone from the multiverse anywhere the writer wants them to. Fucking Norin the Wary is in this set for reasons unknown.
>>93816744>there are worse things here than vampiresYeah basketball americans.
>>93816744skate uphill
>>93816647this guy is about to get an entire draft archetype to himselfand he will still suck
Am I IP banned
>>93816681as far as I can tell it's just GW value splashing for shardless agent, the fun part about pod is the combo potential
>>93817129This is good with Split Up
>>93816111The trailer was on a tv; it's a modern slasher film with mtg characters.
>>93814338Wouldn't it have a tombstone symbol next to the mana cost, since its mechanic relates to the graveyard?
>>93816744Thriller-ending motherfucker
>>93815278>blue gets the most interesting, properly on-theme, playable (but not broken) card of the set so farIts an abstract kind of feel.
>>93817266>>93816111>>93816074I think this is one of those cases in which the people making something based on the theme doesn't really like/understand/gets the theme.Feels way too superficial, much like MKM and OTJ.
>>93815439Cryptic Coat is Modern and Legacy playable.This is just a Wind Drake with the godawful DSK forced 80's aesthetic.
>>93817363Eh, I think the problem is more that they have this very well-realised world in lore, and MANY of the cards fit well enough into that world, but then a few just seem completely incongruent and only exist to be the trope the set is pastiche-ing. Like, some of the trope-y cards are perfectly fine, see >>93816224 that at least fits into the setting. The "high school protagonist"-type characters don't fit unless there's some OTHER 80s plane we know nothing about that Duskmourn has poached a remarkably high amount of people from. It's not like every survivor is even that bad, I think the Storyteller one looks perfectly fitting for example, that feels more like "desperate survivors" in atmosphere and design. I'll admit the only one that's really broke me is the cheerleader, though, because there's NOTHING about her that fits, she's just a cheerleader. The Egoist is at least something that 'works' in setting (one survivor abandoning another supposed friend for their own sake works just fine), but it's just sort of piling on.
any good legacy/vintage cards spoiled yet?
>>93817376I mean more in terms of atmosphere and what slasher/horror movies are. The literal fear walking around isn't that creative when you could just have people becoming the embodiment of those fears instead. Like how the Praetors are supposed to be different aspects of phyrexia's perfection. We could have more characters like the Jolly Balloon Man, that are these weirdos that the demons is influencing to make things worse for everybody else. Horror/slasher movies like that are about people losing their minds/giving in to their urges and either reveling or suffering because of that.Having literal spirits representing specific fears feels way "lazier" than just creating legendary creatures that are supposed to be such fears. Which I know they have no qualms making, with dozens and dozens of new legendary cards every set.A matter of taste and focus, I suppose
>>93817404Not unless something weird is found with the Leyline, which seems unlikely.
I dont see a lot of playable pioneer cards anon and 0 new archetype
>>93817404new kaito fits nicely in legacy ninjas, I think I that's about it so far
>>93816054When I came back into MTG during Arena's open launch, every new set was a big event that I could tie in together with a moment in my life. Guilds of Ravnica, Ravnica Allegiance, War of the Spark, Eldraine, Theros Beyond Death, Ikoria, etcThen I just started paying less attention to MTG and just playing it more on the side instead of it being the main thing I played, so every set started blending in together. If you asked me to order New Capenna, Kaldheim and Strixhaven together, I would have no clue, yet one of these sets is a whole year apart from the others.Looking back at the list of sets and god damn, I loved Neo Kamigawa. What a fucking set.
>>93817424>>93817472the LIDL brand demonic tutor has a floor of getting a grieselbrand at worst on show and tell and a ceiling of being an actual demonic tutor. Storm can also easily turn the demonic tutor on so I'm hyped to see if it's actually good
>>93816111At least it's only the Survivors that are odd.With this one, the only thing that looks out of place to me is the flavor text. That attire is Magic enough to me that it feels like those are two women from some weird plane that happened to get lost in Duskmourn.
>>93816224Insanely good art
>>93817363Eh, we had something similar in MKM. The set story was a single focused murder mystery, but the cards were all over the place in tone and had to introduce a bunch of never-seen-before detectives having wacky hijinks.
>>93817509This is definitely nowhere near as bad as thatMKM is the one that felt most incongruent from these last few sets.With this one it's just some of the survivors that are odd.It's a credit to the designers of the plane that they managed to come up with a very neat concept for a plane that would fit what they were loosely going for with the theme, and a discredit to the artists/card designers that just completely ignored it and went fully based on the theme rather than trying to tie it in together with the plane first.
>>93816224so basically kill it or die?
These are the only cards that have bothered me so far.The other survivors look fantasy enough that it doesn't bother me.I wish these two TV cards had art more in line with Cursed Recording. Make it a "TV" but not actually a TV. And the flavor text in Trapped in the Screen sucks.Overall, I'm really digging the set, not gonna lie. But I've always been a big fan of these kinds of sets. I still love Innistrad as a plane. And I got around to liking Theros when they returned to it on Beyond Death.
Duskmourn is almost out and Azorius control still hasn't decided what its wincon is. You see Jace, Teferi, Elspeth, Caretaker's, no Caretaker's...
>>93817467We'll get lands at least.
>>93817563I hate the tv theme. Apparently you can't have guns in mtg but can have tvs.
>>93817563I wander if the television is literally television "vision at a distance" rather than a television set.
Anything on what The Wandering Emperor is doing in the spooky horror house or is she just there?
>>93817644nothing except for, you know, the main plot point
>>93817644She's there with Kaito to bring back Nashi, who was kidnapped, because they promised Tamiyo they would watch over him.
mtg now contains the word "bestie". We can finally quit the game forever and touch grass.
>>93817592Work on your reading comprehensionYou fucking retard
>>93817563Cheerleader is the only one that really strictly bothers me in that it fails on about every possible level I can think of to be interesting.The artwork is a very very fucking literal cheerleader in the most plain "Cheerleader Outfit" imaginable. It's not even ambiguously 80s dated.Oooh Flying Counters on a White Common 2/2 for 2. This ones really one for the record books. Its not Blue~ wow~!Flavor text is actually more boring than plain. WOAH CHEERLEADING IS HARD. See and here I thought being trapped in worse-than-hellworld might grant some perspective; but nah. Lets see you do a 'triple somersault' into 'dies to removal'.Sprinter would probably bother me if it's not just mediocre execution of what's otherwise acceptable art. A zombie booking it down/up an endless nightmare stairs at you works great as a concept, I just wish he looked a bit faster. Think the flavor text could have been better with a "dead last" pun, but whatever.
>>93817563Trapped in the Screen doesn't bother me as much, it looks more like a magitech TV than the others.
ngl, if the cheerleader wasn't a nigger I wouldn't mind
>>93817745Neck yourself. If this was the hill you wanted to die on you're so behind you that in the matter of races I'm certain you're in dead last.
>>93817644>Tamiyo's scroll ends up in Duskmourn>Val fucking loves having a tome of lore on other plans he can eventually expand to>uses the scroll to lure Nashi and some of his friends to Duskmourn>uses Nashi to lure Emperor/Kaito/Zimone/Niko/Tyvar there on a rescue operation so he can vore them for their power/knowledge of other planes
>>93817673I'd touch grass with this rogue.I'll also fix the horrible perspective on her chest if high-res art shows up.
>>93817563Can Rollercrusher be playable?
-Go first, controlling the tempo of the game and can freely drop Innkeeper's Talent on Turn2 to an empty board while the opponent doesn't have their 2drop on the field yet. I proceed to generate infinite value and win.-Go second, enemy plays their 2drop. I waste my turn playing Innkeeper's Talent and they proceed to hammer in the face damage and kill me by turn 5.This game is such fucking dogshit. Everything depends on who goes first.
>>93817780You know you get to find out who goes first before you settle on your mulligan.If you're going second don't count on it to carry your fucking game, pick a different plan.
>>93817780>Go second>Play Temporary Lockdown on turn 3, killing their 2 drop and their talent
>>93817770At least I seethe about the culture war, not about some random anon's posts on /tg/
>>93817888>Seething about culture warsI agree with that anon, neck yourself.
>>93817895will do. keep consooming, friend
>>93817900I haven't bought a single MTG product since Ikoria, but sure, SJW.
>>93817709The cheerleader should at least look like a survivor. Give her a fucking weapon. Make her look like she's part of the House. Give her magic pom-poms, I dunno.
>>93817774We still have no real idea as to how Valgavoth got the scroll, but it's possible a cultist snuck out a door to grab it or something. He probably has a really limited ability to influence the areas around the doors, but I imagine he can probably snatch objects.
>>93817909there's plenty of other ways to support wizards without giving them money
>>93817780Perhaps build your deck to not die if you're on the draw
what do we do once cut down rotates
>>93817944Name 5.
>>93816074Friendly reminder that this sociopathic highschooler can also break demonic contracts
New player here, thinking about buying one of the upcoming commander precons. Someone fucked up on picrel, right? This is supposed to be an official product image.Also which deck should I buy
>>93813411>>93813445>>93813552>>93814182>>93815290You guys know that the technology in Duskmourn is powered by unwilling demons siphoned from a parallel level of reality, right
>>93818182Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong door.>>>/tg/edhWe talk about Magic the Gathering here.
>>93818182Don't play cuckmander. In fact, don't play magic at all, many of us have dropped the game, it's become a shitshow.
>>93818260>>93818280Damn this community sucks. Thanks for the tips y'all. Quitting the game now
>>93818297Smart guy.This community is based, it's the game that is shite.
>>93818309I just wanna have fun with my friends :(
>>93818309Nah the community is pretty trash too. That's why less and less people talk about Magic and this game is dying. Boomers are as cancerous as Cummander Crew.
>>93818230Don't bother. Modern audiences care only about the aesthetics. They simply don't have the imagination to differentiate between two things that look similar but have different lore, or vice versa. They think scifi = tech, fantasy = magic, without ever realizing it's all the same thing. They see something that looks like a TV, they cannot see anything other than a TV. The only difference between the retarded consoomers and retarded anons is that the former likes this, while the latter hates it.
>>93818297>>93818323Are you fucking stupid? I just told you where you have to go to talk about Commander.This is the Magic the Gathering general.
>>93818323build a cube use only cards printed before 2007
>>93818393Of course I'm fucking stupid. I'm in a magic thread on 4chan.
>>93818338This thread is based, the "community" is consooming manchildren.>>93818323Do something else, commander is trash. If your friends started doing coke would you do that too?Play cube or play premodern with them.
>>93818429>Started
>>93818429It was I who sold them coke in the first place.
>>93818429My friends do coke, because most of them aren't magic nerds. I don't because I don't find it very fun. Magic is just as expensive a habit, but a bit more fun. Except Commander, which I have learned is trash.
>>93818357>No you see the lore actually totally justifies including the 2025 Honda Civic Hybrid with integrated Google Assistant and Bose Premium Sound System, you're just being a shallow lorelet if you don't like it
>>93818323Then go buy some boardgame, even if you really want to use cards there are plenty of good deckbuilding games out there where the winner isn't decided by who paid the most, and most of them are actually balanced instead of being a 30+ years mess
Who had the Green Leyline as being Fist of Suns?
Also this... Might see some work?
Also, dog.
>>93817673Hm, same mana value and similar function to Mayhem Devil. Mayhem Devil lets you ping anything, not just the opponent, but this gains you life which can help you stabilize plus it can protect itself.
>>93818521Sorry boss, this is Magic: the Gathering Genera. Take your board game talk to /bgg/. Also, play cube.
And at least they're making the bugs look fucked up.
>>93818357Retard. It's a function of how far removed something is from current life. As soon as something is old, futuristic or different enough from our mundane lives we can perceive it as "magical". 80s clothes, toys and tech are too close to or even still part of the zeitgeist and western cultural awareness.
>>93818551>Sorcery
>>93818230If they wanted to have TVs they should have just done TVs. This is Flintstones-tier worldbuilding.
>>93818551might put this into a sealed deck but I wouldn't be happy about it
>>93818580Honestly, I thought Capenna was already pushing the limit going so hard on the 1920s aesthetic
>>93818606They're still televisions by and large, it's just instead of being powered by physics and science, they're powered by demon magic.
>>93818577>all these insects>no synergy from BLBAt least Grist enjoyers are eating good
>>93818522>Green Leyline is shitLike pottery.
>>93818563Holy shit, they avoided having a "heckin' doggo" or cutesy junk flavour text for once on a dog card.
>>93813087>Boycotting MTG until they bring back block constructedNow that's something I can get behind. I'm boycotting it for many reasons anyway, but return to blocks would definitely make me reconsider.
>>93816074>bestieI feel like this shouldn't surprise me considering everything else in this set but somehow it's the worst part of it all
>>93818510Is Back to the Future a scifi movie?
>>93818522>flavor textAren't the laws life follows... the natural order?
>>93818708It's deliberately twisted and corrupted life because of Valgavoth's influence. It's different from how it USED to be.
>>93818708>Reading comprehensionshiggydiggy
>>93818611same, between that this and neo cyberpunk kamigawa i'm just getting numb to it all
>>93818694No, it's a fantasy epic as far as MtG players should be concerned
>>93818745That's the intended effect. Strip away the pretenses bit by bit until you're barely even fazed by Universes Beyond in Standard in a couple years.
>>93818772>Everything I don't like is a sinister ploy
>>93818434>>93818450>>93818460What kind of shitholes do you hail from?If Magic is a habit then drop it, it's not healty. Anything that has power over you is bad.
>>93818772the problem with their gameplan is that it doesn't work if I bail out and stop paying, which already happened
>>93818799sales have been doing better than ever, so they don't care
>>93818789Hanlon's Razor is an adequate explanation, but it's still very possible WotC is doing it on purpose. We all know they'd fucking love to be able to do UB all the time. They just need to acclimate the players to it more.
>>93818797Your autism has immense power over you, anon. What are you gonna do about it?
>>93818799Every sale lost from a disillusioned veteran is 2 gained from some EDH newbie who gets drawn in by the new toys. The big question is the player retention with these new tricks. The grognards were repeated customers for literal decades. How long does a newbie who says "Oh I love Fallout! I'll buy a precon!" stick around as a customer?
>>93818835yeah, that's the thing anybody saying "they don't care" doesn't get. I mean, I'm sure they're right and hasbro/WOTC doesn't care, but they should. you can't replace established customers with fleeting ones and expect it to work out long-term.
>>93818850Fortnite became one of the most profitable games in the world through appealing to fleeting customers and they're still going strong. You need to stop coping.
>>93818850Theoretically, if you keep getting crossovers, you can keep plundering outside fanbases for sales for a long fucking time. Fallout showed you can bridge to basically any genre. We've got Marvel and Final Fantasy coming down the pipeline. Nothing's stopping you from doing, say, a Naruto set someday if you can get Shueisha onboard.
>>93818867Hasn't Fortnite been on the decline for a while? It's still big and isn't going anywhere, but it's not a model for infinite growth like Hasbro needs MtG to be.
>>93818850Executives don't care about long-term gains because the moment profits are down they jump ship with a golden parachute.
The thing I hate the most about commander-centered design is the escalating level of guaranteed value cards are gaining. Why are cards allowed to go positive even when immediately Fatal Pushed, and win the game if you untap with them?
Also obligatory Shining reference.
>>93818833Capeshit tier quip.
>>93819002They already did this one in Innistrad, no?
>>93819002>Meme design>Dogshit effect for cost>CommonChecks out.
>>93819019Did they? They did Evil Twin, but that's a more generalised trope riffing. They also did pic-related, but that's more just "child vampires" as a 'thing'.
>>93819039>>93819002this is the difference between "making a reference through the lens of magic" and "thing, but magic"
why is wotc still printing such objectifying artwork? i didn't know they were a chud incel porn addicted company
Guys, I have a rules question.If I've used Eriette the Beguiler to steal a creature and I block with that creature what happens if the enchantment is removed during combat?If the timing of removing the enchantment is under my control (Say it's Shimmering Wings and want it back in my hand) can yhe creature deal damage and I still get my enchantment back?
>>93819070Sir, with greatest respect, if you have a fetish for skull heads they can hardly be expected to stop printing cards like that. What's next? A bam on tentacles because that's my thing? No, a line must be drawn at nipples or we enter a censorious kink spiral.
>>93819158A creature that changes controller during combat leaves coming.
>>93819177Ban art of dragons because whenever I see a naked dragon, or one in crotchless armor I get horny.
>>93819177nice try, but sideboob and exposed thighs are absolutely in "watch porn instead" territory.
I just wanna play a fair winner deck anons..m
>>93819158if a creature changes controller it's removed from combat. unless it has first strike, you cannot do the thing you are describing, you can bounce the enchant either before damage is dealt (in which case damage is never dealt at all because the creature is removed from combat) or after damage, but only if the creature survived
>>93819225look at what porn can do to a human brain.
>>93819216But the creature it blocked remains blocked still and won't damage me?
>>93819221that's a male dragon, sexy males are 100% woke and DEI, so you don't need to ban them
>>93819267correct, once a creature is bl9cked it mantain the "blocked" status for this fight even if there isn't anything blocking it anymore
>>93819288unless it has trample, in which case you will take full damage
>>93819216>>93819254Thanks guys. I think I understand what I can do and not do now. I guess if I've stolen something by putting Simmering Wings it surviving and going back to its owner is probably preferable anyway because I can steal it again next turn and block with it again.
>>93819002Is sad that the most funny/interesting references are also completely unplayable like the jolly guy or the fear of the dark
>>93819225Do they need new art for Centaur Glade?
>>93819330>>93819274
>>93819225>nice try, but collarbones and exposed ankles are absolutely in "watch porn instead" territory.
>>93819369yes.
>>93819274Explain this one, chud.
>>93819354Are Eldrazi male?
>>93818522holy shit this is busted
>>93819066Yes, because the Shining girls were giant bugs
>>93818182You can buy any of the precons theyve printed before. Also dont let the people on this board who still just exist so they can complain that the game isnt like they remember it discourage you from having fun with your friends. Commander is the best way to do that too since it's the most casual and laid-back format plus its multiplayer
>>93819407>BustedHow?
So I've been thinking. Pioneer Slivers?
>>93819443I see more chances for Pioneer Ninjas honestly.
>>93819443>>93819452I just tried to imagine what an ideal opening hand would look like and then I remembered that you will never get your ideal opening hand so imagining that is pointless
>>93819407It's cute, I feel like a deck that could really take advantage of it is probably already winning the game by the time it gets to 5 mana
>>93819452we have 3 kaitos, silver-fur master, bitting palm ninja, thousand faced shadow, 2 satoru umezawa, kotose and nashi. something should be able to wrap all this together
>>93818522Let me guess: commanderfags think this is op?
>>93818522Well at-least it wasn't the white leyline.
>>93819028lmao
>>93818563this fucking thing was a 3 drop 2 sets ago
>>93819443yes>>93819443
>>93819690>>93819690>>93819690
>>93819695>HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>93819695Why are you such a failure anon? Why can't you do a simple thing right? Even Concord was a success compared to you.
>>93818563
>>93816668Felonious Rage and Turn Inside Out give a 2/2 creature when their target dies. The only red 1 drops that can actually sacrifice themselves post-combat are cacophony scamp and rotisserie elemental. If you have turn 1 leyline and turn 2 pump spells, scamp is just immediately lethal due to double damage, but rotisserie elemental at least makes 2-4x 2/2 creatures when it sacrifices itselfif you went heartfire hero -> 2x pump spells, all you get is +1 damage and keep the heartfire on board as a single 2/2. Its better with fling or suiciding into blockers, but worse if its just on board
>>93817129>Not Human Horror or Human Demon or Human Nightmare or Human Spirit, etcONE FUCKING JOB>>93818522With the name Leyline of Mutation I totally expected it to give +1/+1 counters to creatures. WTF is up with those shit names?
>>93819776Leyline of Proliferation {2GW}EnchantmentIf Leyline of Investigation is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.At the beginning of your upkeep, populate
>>93813411>noooooo you can't have a TELEVISION in my magic the gatheringYes
>>93816054I started then. Started a taste for mill in standard the last time it was regular. Imagine how bad I was playing STX draft, let alone still am. At least Embercleave left too.
