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>>93819690>TQUnban everything and let all of Hell loose so that we can have a new reckoning what belongs among the damned
>>93819732thisbut also reprint black lotus
He's literally me.
>>93819788I wanted this little fella to be good so badly...
>>93819788Completely irrelevant?
>>93819788>>93819815>Menace, not Hasteto the limited pile you go
>>93819788I want to turn him inside out
some people say dsk has a high power level but a lot of the cards they are showing are not even playable in limited...
>>93819842pushed 1 mana cards are almost always broken in constructed and trash in limited
>>93819815He's definitely draft chaff, but interesting to note that he's only the third card ever to be a mono red 2 cost 2/2 menace. Everyone else either gets it conditionally or is a 1/x or 2/1.
>>93819824No, completely irreverent.
>>93819824He has evasion, and he can help you become delirious. Draft fodder
>>93819690grief sexo?
All I want from Wizards is another card like Cavalcade of Calamity.
I know somepeoplen dislike the flavour of this card but i like the effects a lot. Will play it in some decks and see if works, double damage can be a lot.
>>93819982cavalcade of calamity II?
>>93819994why isn't this an artifact. why aren't rooms artifacts as well.
>>93819994every year her options of game ending cards grows
>>93820017Should reference modern horror reboots, so it should either be just Cavalcade or Cavalcade of Calamity (2024)
>>93819443It's combo time!
>>93820028think they posted in an article that they wanted to use enchantments as a way to seperate the horror of Duskmourn from Innistrad and New Phyrexia. So we're getting a bunch of effects on enchantments that could've been other card types and it's why we're not getting curses either.
>>93820028It's a magic coaster. They're magic rooms.
>>93820136yeah but that's retarded. >>93820149artifacts are magic too
My friends invited me to the lgs in two weeks to a small 24 ppl tourney. I havent played constructed since I quit Legacy in 2012.What deck should I play with zero meta knowledge? Money isnt an issue as I got some cash trough luck.
>>93819860That Clockwork Precussionist (top-left) and Turn Inside Out (bottom-left) should be the biggest eye raisers.
>>93820136Apparently the reason Grievous Wound isn't a Curse is purely because it was gonna be a whole other mechanic that got scrapped, called Injuries. And Grievous Wound was just the only real holdover from that.
>>93820235Turn Inside-Out is part of a t2 kill
>>93819860Vacuum will be such an obnoxious staple in a lot of formats...That and Turn Inside Out with the fucking Leyline are the biggest 1 drops of this set.
>>93820251>5 mana for something a zombie can do better and fasterwhen they will give us good curses again
>>93820272Apparently WotC considers curses Innistrad only design space.
>>93820028Because both the rooms and the deathcoaster are manifestations of fears created by the demon dude
>>93820294holy shit their designers are dogs. a versatile and intuitive thing like curses in never reused but enchantment creatures are fucking everywhere for their enchantment only edh meme decks
Tick Tack.I will rape your format.
>>93820217So are televisions.
>>93820294What about when Almondcat had curses?
>>93820399How will BO1 ever recover
>>93820491When they print Leyline of the Ghostly Prison
>h-hello, i'd like a playset of the one ring please...>and also a playset of phlages>yes, $600, okay...
>>93820507
>>93819690You stupid idiot you keep copy and pasting threads without a single thought.>>93813087
>>93820491BO1 is not a real format
>>93820517
>>93820524I love the connection to the previous compared. So why can't OP do something so simple? Does OP's job at the dicksucking factory cause brain damage?
Caretaker's Talent will be banned within a month. It's the most oppressive draw engine in a decade.
>>93820620But that's a 3-drop, you won't even have time to cast it if anons here are to be believed.
>>93820620LOLLMAO even
>>93820620>3 mana do nothing
Better tormenting voice
>>93820620>Anon is worried about an enchantment that needs a lot of jumps to even do something>Meanwhile i wipe the board with my sunfalls and cast Atraxa and winThe absolute state of this place...
>>93820685Helpful to fullfill >>93819994 but the fact is a sorcery is painful
>>93820685Is all of the flavor text still done by that woman who came up with Megamorph?
Glimmer token in blue.
>>93820685What's with all these cards that punish you for having extra land? Do they WANT you running 17 lands to abuse the algorithm in MTGO?
>>93820719That Kamigawa DJ makes me want to tear my eyes of pure rage
>>93820725Why is this a blue card?
>>93820719>I’m not saying guns have no place in fantasy. I’m, saying they have no place in our fantasy. (And to be fair, I’m not fond of guns in any fantasy that isn’t also set in more modern times.)>As I’ve now explained multiple times, our game at its core is about fighting with magic. >Everything that a gun fulfills in normal stories is fulfilled by magic in our stories.>We have duels and “gunslinging” built into Magic’s essence. When two planeswalkers face off in our game I want it to be with magic.
>>93820687>that needs a lot of jumps to even do somethingWhat the fuck is the point in lying like this? What do you actually achieve by pretending to be retarded?
>>93820759It is a detective that creates an enchantment.
>>93820620for one no its obviously notfor two, its slow and durdly and that will never be oppressiveinvoke despair should never have been banned, for the same reasonDegenerate decks kill you on turn 2. When a format is broken, games are over before you can reach 3-4 mana. When there's a 3 mana card draw engine, who the fuck cares if combo and aggro decks kill you on turn 3 even through normal interaction and turn 2 with goldfish christmasland.But the most broken card draw engine is also one that interacts with the board because its a 4 mana time walk that also draws you 3 cards on its extra turn and 4+5 cards on the following two. You think caretaker's talent drawing 2 cards max per turn compares to the one ring? lmao
>>93820767Retarded is believe Caretaker needs a ban.That's peak retardation faggot.
>>93820759don't gotta explain shit
>>93820770Meanwhile a detective that makes an artifact is White
>>93820784>it's an ESLWell that explains it.>>93820777Stop playing BO1 on Arena and thinking it's real Magic.
>>93820725>Tunnel>In a hallway>Surveyor >Doesn't give you information >Blue card>White token
Unconditional white reanimation spell.
>>93820794>I'm stupid and i will not hide itKeep crying here please you remember me the stupid idiots who said that Ripper would be the ban in Pioneer
>>93820793Detectives are generally Blue and/or White. I don't see the problem here.
>>93820810Be quiet ESL, humans are speaking.
>>93820807fuck why so expensive wotc? my ratto needs some tools
>>93820786This guy has flying. It doesn't take much to justify the color pip, but when you're just making a 1/1 token and the token isn't even blue, it makes you wonder why he isn't 2(U/W) or just (3).
>>93820814Well it seems like making an artifact is more blue and making an enchantment is more white.
>>93820807Why is Rita in the set?
>>93820725Kind of weird card. As this seems more like a sorcery or an instant. Especially from the art's perspective and also the flavortext as the focus isn't on the detective directly, its about the glimmer.
Does anyone know why Dosan went from 3-5 bucks to over $30 in the past couple months?
>>93820806The lack of information from a card named "Surveyor" is the only valid complaint here. Cards have always been able to generate tokens of cards of a different color, and it's not like we need Glimmer tokens of every color. We just dealt with the problem having a billion unnecessary tokens causes in Bloomburrow, and Ixalan has something like 4 different 1/1 Vampire tokens at this point.
>>93820725Detectives? In my Duskmourn?
>>93820839 _ _ _
>>93820807So they put people fully clothed into very dry cocoons and they emerge very clean with tattoos all over their bodies that extend under their unrumpled clothes. Oh, the "Horror".
>>93820828Yeah but it's not a color pie break by any stretch. These are things the colors can do, and there's not really any issue with making one side of a color pair from a set get a bit of the other side's stuff to improve synergy between them, especially for limited. It's pretty common.
>>93820855What commander is it being used for? Or is it a FOTM commander itself? I'm honestly stunned that it's seeing that much demand/play.
>>93820839The answer to every question like this is coomander (no I will not call it by the right name, it is no longer that format).
>>93820857Sorry anon, this is a christian game. We can't show the nude form or that their clothes imply anything against the victim's consent.
>>93820873But anon Magic IS Commander NOW
>>93820822What more do you need? They've printed like half a dozen "Return target creature card with mana value 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield." cards over the past few years.
>>93820893The true horror
>>93820868Nadu cedh
>>93820904Something that makes greasefang tier 1 deck.
>>93820946A friendly reminder that greasefang and all the support cards he needed like graveyard fillers, informant, can't stay away, etc were all in standard for an entire 3 year rotation and not a single playable vehicle was printed above 2 mana cost in that entire time
...why is there no ranked bo3 draft on arena, I want to train but I also want to see numbers go up...
>>93820981It's called Traditional Draft, is it not?
>>93820997Yeah but it's not ranked, only bo1 draft is.
>>93821010That's weird
>>93820685The OTJ "Tormenting Voice" with plot + allows you to sac a land instead of discarding a card if you want absolutely obliterates this.
I swear to god this better be a card in the set;>Fatal Fall {B}>Instant>Destroy target creature with mana value 2 or less>Delirium - Destroy target creature insteador aggro will run wild again
>>93821094Too late anon, prepare that anus for the mouse, the bird, and the face damage.
>>93820725>Mono-blue tokensfor fuck sake they 'literally just don't give a fuck anymore do they?
>>93820685>not a single playable clowni'm crying...
New Twitter drama just released.tl;dr someone loses in the MTGO cube qualifier for the Las Vegas live cube draft to a banned player with a history of cheating then complains about the loss.
>>93820806>>Blue card>>White tokenYou're right about everything else
>>93820517>>93820546THE FUTURE IS NOW.
>>93821295Did he cheat? How did he enter the tournament if he's banned?
I hate that half the Gift cards are "If the gift was promised" and the other half are "if the gift wasn't promised."Small inconsistencies like that suggest a lack of care for quality.
So is red the most powercrept color now?
>>93821356You don't understand they need SOMETHING to offset having bad removal in Commander!
>>938208224C is baseline for reanimation.>>93820028Artifacts are already OP, let enchantments have something m
>>93821329From what I can understand he was permanantly banned from paper play but of course there's no issue with playing on MTGO. Apparently he was banned before the DCI disappeared too. No, obviously you can't cheat on MTGO and someone pointed out there are prizes for playing on MTGO reguardless of if you play in person or not.>>93821336They need to stop trying to use unintuitive keywords. It doesn't add any flavour and just adds more words into rules text which are ultimately going to require reminder text because they aren't simple and elegant like "flying" or "vigilance".
>>93821381Nah if anything red's schtick of running out of gas is the biggest thing wotc got rid of to pander to commanderfags. Every red card these days exiles shit off the top to play
>>93821356No if you play real Magic and you all well prepared I trust every single human being start playing Bo3 and also side enough shit to make any RDW 0 IQ faggot life miserable so people have to think twive before playing aggro.
>>93821463Esl chama calm down
>>93821463So it's fine as long as you play Removal.dek
>>93820794BO1 arena IS real Magic
>>93821336I feel like we'd be hearing the same complaint from you if half the cards said "if the gift was promised" and the other half said "unless the gift was promised."
>>93821551Do people try to do this in real life?I fully believe that there are people autistic enough to try
>>93821593As someone who saw multiple 3-minute Brainstorms at SCG events, absolutly.
>>93821311Needs>Delirium: If there are four or more card types among cards in your graveyard, ascend, then you become the monarch.
Does anyone actually think cards like this are well designed
>>93819982?
>>93821311Opaque Command {2C{W/P}}InstantBargainGift a fish with a royal token attached to it.Choose two - * Manifest dread. If this spell was bargained, venture into the dungeon.* Create a 2/2 black skeleton creature token with exploit and "When this creature exploits a creature, proliferate"* A creature you control explores. If the gift was promised, populate.* Creatures you control gain extort until end of turn. If you descended this turn, solve target case
why people say red is the retard colour? takes some skill to win with only some small creatures and buff spells
>>93821775no it dontt. red player
>>93821775>Shart out 1-drop>Turn it sideways>Pump it>Fling itWow
>>93821717can never parse these screenshots. absolutely repulsive UI.
>>93821768>Gift a fish with a royal token attached to it.
>>93821775It honestly doesn't mate. Being able to put an opponent from 20 to 0 on turn 3 with one creature is really shit game design.
>>93821795Well, it's more of an aggro problem, not red specifically. It's just that red usually does "overwhelm your opponent before they remove everything" better than everything else. Sadly it doesn't make for a very interesting gameplay, so the only joy is left in brewing/finetuning and mulligans.t. other red player
>>93821884Well, 1 creature and a shitload of other cards. And if it doesn't work you are screwed.
>>93821940>shitload3 lad. 3 other cards.
>>93821393not for white it ain't
>>93821759I suppose I implicitly meant Pioneer legal.
>>93821940One creature, two lands, one Leyline, two combat tricks
LLANOWAR ELVES HURRY THE FUCK UP
>>93822608Don't fucking remind meChoosing what mana dork to play in Standard right now is actually a kinda interesting dilemma and now they're all just gonna be worse than LLANOWAR ELVES because fuck deck building I guess
Post your favorite vanilla cards.
>>93822608>>93822700just wait till tomorrow's reveals
>>93821593>I activate my Sensei's top on your end step....>Hmmm... huh... hmmmm hawww.....>Hmm maybe... no no... hmmm>Two minutes later>Hmm. Actualy maybe... no no>Gets a slow play warning>Four minutes later.>"Same order, start my turn."
>>93822767Firewar Elves {G}Creature - Elf WarriorMenaceWhenever Firewar Elves attacks, add {G}. Until end of turn, you don’t lose this mana as steps and phases end.2/1updated for 2024 sensibilities :^)
Ok so what's a website I can upload cards I've designed on MTGCardBuilder and ships to the UK at a reasonable price (based in the UK) I'm looking for a UK based MTGProxy basically
BEHOLDBLESSED PERFECTION>>93821768I couldn't resist. The idea of doing this with a command style card was just too good.
>>93822966>Cloak the top card of your library mutated onto target non-Human creature.Fucking hell you almost just gave me a brain aneurysm.
Wait one small change to really hammer home the absurdity.
>>93822794>Has to attack into thingsBut what if they can block!? I don't want to lose my elf!It should be Unblockable.
>>93823018Needs something about commiting a crime and manifesting dread
We're about 4 years out from colors becoming totally irrelevant in this game aren't we?
>>93823056Please man, we don't want it to get too bloated. We're good designers who work hard to reduce card word counts.
>>93823061You're like 20 years late anon. We already had this, on an infinity gauntlet card no less.
>>93823061No, but they're definitely going to invent a new mana symbol to replace the phrase "mana of any color".
>>93823018>Gift a beastkek, subtle
>>93823091Please gift me the 8/8 one.
Upon further review and in response to comments left in the design file, I felt the design was missing a certain je ne sais quoi.
>>93823121needs a hybrid double phyrexian snow mana in the cost
>>93823087They print a land with that ability maybe once or twice a set, right? I don't see the need, frankly
>>93823132>Besmirching the stellar history of the 1GU mana cost.Despicable.
>>93823061>red gets a leyline that ends the game on turn 2>green gets a leyline so they can pay 5 mana with impossible colors, for spells that cost at most 6-8 mana anywayjesus christ
>>93823151>green gets a leyline that needs another leyline to workLol. Lmao.
>>93823151I, for one, accept our new Leyline overlords.Leyline Devotion is now a faster path to Ultimatum/Omniscience than Lotus Field.
>>93823170>other colors can cheat any permanent into play from their graveyard for 4-5 mana>even blue can do it for 4 mana now lmao>green/black can do it for 3 mana>.....>green gets to do it for WURGB, only if its already in their hand which is even harder to set up
>>93823133If they invent a symbol to represent "one mana of any color", then you get to replace the generic mana symbols in every card with a rainbow, which will help LGBTQQIAA2+ players feel seen.
>>93823181>Leyline Devotion is now a faster path to Ultimatum/Omniscience than Lotus Field.anon why would you post thisi just want to be happy
You know what?Fuck Omniscience, we probably have better options.It goes something like ths.>T1 forest, leylines, Grazer Nykthos.>t2 forest, tap Nykthos, Kozilek + exile your land and whatever you may have tried to play out on T1.Works with both Grazer and The L.Elves dork variants.
Since we can skirt around the colorless in his mana cost, we can also bring in Kozilek to refill our hand to full, just in case. Something you can't do with regular green from Nykthos.
>>93823252AnonYou're thinking about having a perfect hand you'll never, ever get AnonAnon
>>93823252which format? There are already 4 other green leylines, and you can use ugin's labrinth or enigma jewel to pay for the activation cost of nykthos on turn 2
>>93823275You don't need a perfect hand. We have many options to skirt around having just one leyline.Everybody who plays Magic knows that combo decks WILL find the ideal ways to fix their hand. People said the same shit about Field and Field still shitstomps.>>93823283All that is Pioneer legal but you could extend it further.
>>93820685Yeah ok, I don't mind this flavor text.
>>93823299I'm fully okay with some level of camp in a plane like this, I just wish the survivors felt like they fit the plane more instead of feeling like high-school students who just stumbled in.
>>93823294>cascading cataracts>doesn't have cascade
>>93823356>I play Cascading Cataracts II>Cascade for -1...
>>93823252I don't get how this works how are you playing Ulamog with 7 green
You may not like it but this is what peak male efficiency looks like
>>93823367I think he's playing Ulamog for WGURB and one of the hoops he has to jump through is filtering his mana to 5-color mana.
>>93823294>cascading cataracts>isn't a cat
>>93823367>>93823392You are aggressively mulliganing until you find some combo of leylines, dorks, Kiora etc. that just slam an unbeatable fattie on the table as fast as possible.Best case scenario it is relatively consistent Ulamog by T2. Usually it is Ulamog on turn 3/4.The WUBRG shit is just a backup plan, the point is that it's an extra leyline which gives us FREE devotion.
>>93823433Anon stop trying to turn other formats into Timeless
Not claiming this is a refined list, it's just a proof of concept. It will probably end up with more filtering / digging pieces, but here's the core.Leyline dump, Nykthos, slam fatties. Backup plan is reaching 5 mana and just slamming them anyway if all else fails. We can probably do some stupid things with Domain alongside it, too.The first proof of concept does function though. It is FAST.
>>93823444these trips ain't going unchecked
>>93821425>Every red card these days exiles shit off the top to playYep, absolutely detest this. Creatively bankrupt
>>93823078Retard.
>>93823626DO A RED THING, exile the top card of you library, until the end of your next turn you may play that card
>>93823672Hate it hate it hate it. I just stop reading a card as soon as I see it. Don't even care how good it is
>DO A RED THING>INCREASE THE STORM COUNT BY 2wow that was hard
>>93823626>>93821425I always wanted to see red get card advantage on hellbent (which there's plenty of precedence for, "discard you hand and draw three cards", I just want more of it). Seeing what red had turned into makes me reconsider my position. Like, maybe red SHOULD run out of gas, maybe there shouldn't be too many ways around that.
>>93823745>Seeing what red had turned into makes me reconsider my position. Like, maybe red SHOULD run out of gas, maybe there shouldn't be too many ways around that.You mean... THE WHOLE POINT OF THE COLOR?
>>93823720>blocks your path
I hope Bazaar is viable here
Red Knight {RR}Creature - Human KnightWhen Red Knight enters, exile the top card of your library. You may play that card this turn. At the beginning of the next end step Red Knight deals 2 damage to any target if that card is still exiled.2/2good idea amiright
>>93823928>no hastenot FIRE enough, i'm sending you to maro's office
>>93823873you're not playing a singleton format right anon?right... anon?
>>93823934>4 damage for 2 manau sure you want that
>>93823961HAIL FIRE
>>93823745>maybe red SHOULD run out of gasYes.
>>93823940It's vintage cube which is a singleton format, retard. Also those 1v1 highlander formats are fine, although I don't play any myself.
Remember when we thought Nadu shitting up Memedern was gonna be the worst thing to happen for the year?This is the age of Fire, baby
>>93823989i don't know why anyone still plays nonrotating formats outside of sunk cost fallacy
Behold, Megadelirium.
>>93823998There are no nonrotating formats.
>>93823989the final fantasy set will rotate modern again so who cares
>>93823998playing with high powered cards is fun, a lot more fun than just playing creatures on curve and over costed removal in my opinion
>>93824004me reading this card once:>me reading this card again, knowing how the game works>2G for a 2/4 vanilla in my rare slotlmaoholy fuck the color disparity is insane
>>93823998>nonrotating formatsIt's 2024. There are no non-rotating formats.But speaking seriously, it's not like any of the options are good besides the cube bunker.
>>93824004>A 6/8 for 3This might be playable as a curve topper in standard aggro decks, but probably won't do anything in Pioneer.
>>93824032>no evasion>does fucking nothing if the opp has graveyard hateNot even Standard playable
And a big dumb demon.
>>93824056Better quality image.
>>93824061Sick art, meh card
>>93824042That's why I said "might". Even if you cast a sorcery to mill an artifact creature, the enchantment land, and an instant to meet the 6, you still spent a turn not playing a creature in your aggro deck.
>>93824004ok gamers how do we fit 6 card types into scales?
>>93824042I wish we cards that interact with the graveyard in this came could be balanced. Instead we get>plays kinda strong card that interacts with your graveyard>"lol," said the literally free graveyard hate. "Lmao."
>>93824042nigga its delirium on an aggro cardit does literally nothing, there's no green aggro deck that will ever assemble delirium naturallyits a 2/4 for 3 vanilla
>>93824096*I wish we could have cards that interact with the graveyard in this game could be balancedI'm tired
>>93824087Got a list? I don't know how many types it already has.
>>93823969>Red Knight {RR}>Creature - Human KnightHasteWhen Red Knight enters or attacks, deal 3 damage to any target.When Red Knight dies, exile the top two cards of your library. You may play those cards until the beginning of your next end step.
Following up Collect Evidence and Forage with Delirium seems like very thoughtless Standard design.
>>93824108We're at the point where we're ready to powercreep Stitcher Supplier, right? They'll make it a 2/1 for {G} that mills 3 on ETB and on death and on each attack.
>>93824156>We're at the point where we're ready to powercreep Stitcher Supplier, right?powercreep everything, redline must go up, hasbro ceo needs another yacht
It's time to bring back Dredge in Standard
>>93824162one single viable dedge card in standard would break every other format for ten years
>>93824207A blank, uncastable card with no attributes whatsoever would be meta warping if it had Dredge 5+
>>93824148>Following up Collect Evidence and Forage with Delirium seems like very thoughtless Standard design.Thought? What's that?
>>93824061Dusk Mangler was a better limited reanimation target than this thing.
>>93824156you misunderstand fire designgraveyard strategies don't get pushed turbo enablers like stitchers supplier, they get pushed hosersit would look like this:>Stitched Poppet {B}>Artifact Creature - Clue Toy>When Stitched Poppet enters the battlefield, mill two cards.>{2}, sacrifice Stitched Poppet: Draw a card>0/1and this:>Gragmar, Devourer of the Dead {RG}>Legendary Creature - Lizard>Menace>Ward - Pay 2 life>When Gragmar enters or attacks, exile each opponent's graveyard. Gragmar deals 1 damage to each opponent for each creature card exiled this way>{3RRGG},{T}: Put all creature cards exiled by Gragmar onto the battlefield under your control. They gain haste until end of turn.>3/2
Amusing that the few genuine creatives left at WOTC can’t even hide how phoned in all of this is
>>93824156I don't know about you, but Malevolent Rumble is doing great work.
>>93824273>We're in the stupid ass dumb contrivances arc, we had to have stupid ass dumb contrivances. It was necessary.Stunning and brave.
My turn
>>93824273We're in the Dragonstorm Arc? I thought that didn't start until Return to Return to Tarkir.
>>93824273Literally "Oh right, my boss told me to include a dragon here, so here's a dragon"
>>93824322>We're in the Dragonstorm Arc? I thought that didn't start until Return to Return to Tarkir.Who fucking cares.WotC doesn't care. You shouldn't either.
>>93824273>we had to have a dragonwhat the fuck is the dragonstorm arc
>>93824330>what the fuck is the dragonstorm arcI'unno. Apparently we're in a new anime arc that they just forgot to setup or give any indication of.
>>93824330Probably related to that dragon that got turned into a bird in Bloomburrow. I think they're supposed to be foreshadowing, but it's not really foreshadowing when you practically say "and here's some corporate mandated foreshadowing"
>>93824346>Probably related to that dragon that got turned into a bird in Bloomburrow.Oh yeah, that stupid fucking thing. That thing was stupid as fuck. That stupid fucking thing better not be the focus of an entire god damned Jacetice League II arc. Fuck off.
>>93824346I don't understand how you're supposed to foreshadow a dragon related arc by putting one dragon in every set when every set already has a dragon or two. It's like foreshadowing a chocolate related story arc by leaving a Hershey bar on Mr Hershey's desk in the Hershey factory.
>>93824371>It's like foreshadowing a chocolate related story arc by leaving a Hershey bar on Mr Hershey's desk in the Hershey factory.Like foreshadowing a bad story by putting bad stories in the lore leading up to it, you could say.
>>93824371Having only a single notable dragon in each set leading up to Tarkir is technically set-up, but there's no real overt connective tissue between BLB and DSK so far besides "whatever the fuck Jace and Vraska are doing behind the scenes". The dragons don't even seem to be a major thing.
>>93824346>>93824359I actually thought the falcon dragon was pretty tastefully done, it just didn’t integrate into the story in any meaningful way
>>93824846>2 mana 1/4 with upside and then extra upsideThe fucking power creep is so god damn garbageThere's literally just not even remotely an excuse for this. Sure, maybe Storm Crow could get away with a few upgrade, but what excuse is tehre for making some random UB ((Yhr noncreature colors) have such ahead-o-fhthe-curve toughness?
>>93824856You don't understand anon, they had to make it fit into the curve for the synergy. The je ne sais quoi.
>>93824877What excuse do they have for making a creature that is so ahead of the curve also have two very relevant abilities?It's just disgusting. It's truly shameful, awful design. The people responsible for this are absolute unthinking cretins.
>>93824887you WILL consume the power creep chud
>>93824887You get a fun, flavorful set that reminds you of reading childhood fantasy books once a year, and you should be grateful
>>93824967>you should be gratefulI am not.
>>93824846>Skeleton that cares about enchantments Now we just have to make BUG mana base work in Pioneer
>>93824846>anon demands a skeleton 2 drop>its 1 power and blue
>>93824846>Skeleton>Evasion>2 drop>Enchantment synergies>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BlueAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU FUCKING RETARTS WHY CAN'T YOU GET EVEN A SINGLE GOD DAMN THING RIGHT
I'm not even going to test the new skeleton.Pioneer's mana is so shit that I already know stretching into 3c for a 1-power dude isn't going to be worth it.
>>93825114What about also Uchbenbak? I also toyed with Training Grounds builds, but I couldn't justify the blue for just those cards.
>>93825146>What about also Uchbenbak?Skeletal Swarming is an infinitely better finisher than him.Blue isn't even worth it for any of the Changelings, they all suck in that color.It's just not worth it. The deck is really at home in Golgari and we do NOT want to risk losing out on 1-drops from a color-bloated mana base.
Not much updates lately, a little busy to grind out test games. Might get more done this weekend.Not really faffing about with abilities or anything, but we were pretty much never crewing Bankbuster anyways.Agatha's Soul Cauldron's counters provide a tiny bit of extra punching power that Hearse did not. -1 Hearse, +1 Cauldron.I think the deck is approaching the point where I can start fiddling with the sideboard finally. Right now it's just a heap of junk plus Eternal Scourges for control.
>>93824004
rate idea for cardSkeleton Impostor {1B}Creature - Human SkeletonDeathtouch, HasteCreatures you control aren't skeletons3/2
>>93825154Okay, hear me out...
>>93825192Nope.Half our bodies are Enchantments. Enchantments aren't Skeletons, even though the Tokens they make are.
>>93825193All of our enchantments only have one black pip, so we can still cast them as long as we don't have all type choice lands. I'll mock something up when I get home.
>>93825214>All of our enchantments only have one black pipIndeed. But we're also running 4x Mutavaults (Testing them, yeah, they're way too good to drop)12x colorless tappers is half our mana base, which I don't think will work with so much of its pressure invested into things they can't tap for mana to cast.Looking forward to the mockup though. If that Skele was a 2/1 flier I'd be more on board with including blue for it. I just don't see much of a benefit to including blue just for a creature that's worse than Moss-Pit. (Hasted 6/5s close games out hard.)
Reminder: Nothing in this thread over 4 mana matters. RDW will be killing you on Turn 3 70% of the time now, even if you have removal, because it now splashes green for hexproof. Your choice is simple: Gruul Aggro or Removal.dec. What say you /tg/ ?
>>93820507>bought all a playset of phlages off of people at drafts for $40-50 each>it's down to $35>still haven't made the deckI need to stop buying cards I don't have a final decklist for
>>938252554 cut down 4 disfigure 4 dead weight 4 anoint with affliction 4 go for the throat 4 virtue of persistence 3 harvester of misery 3 preacher of the schism 3 sheoldred 3 aclazotzthat's my deck
>>93825295>he doesn't run Sheoldred's Edict mainboard at 4xngmi against Gruul Aggro, anon
>>93825255What about a 3 toughness blocker that gains life?
>>93825316>SSS>Flyinglollmao
>>93825316>3 toughness blockeris this some type of joke? mice would eat this guy alive
>>93825315what do I cut then?
>>93825338The Virtues. Sorcery speed means you are dead before you can cast it.
>>93825255>What say you /tg/ ?
>>93824846This card is really weird
>>93825316This card is so bad against anything monored related that i wouldnt even consider it.Is draft chaft in fact in the new meta post DSK
>>93825343seems fair
>>93825255Removal.deckThat or Pioneer UW where i also have tons of early counters and the white march.
>>93820251Pretty shitty photobash art
here's my plan:jeskai energy but its copycat with phlages as plan b.
>>93825255Is it really aggro if I can't put a creature on the table without having g open?
>>93825295and this is whythis is what they did to standard, and its not like coomander and monderp are any better
>>93824273>hideAnon.. the guy/girl who wrote this is a dirty hipster. They didn't try to hide, this is their sense of humor, they know it is shit and they don't hide it. They probably gave the idea and got the thumbs up and then wrote this as the double irony catch phrase.You are delusional if you think those shitters are creative.It is a company thing: most of the people if not all are "hipsters" and like to do the ironic remark from time to time, it is not Maro, or Gavin...
>>93824316Honestly I had to look at the set symbol to know it was a custom card...
>>93825597People who play removal tribal in Bo1 are the ultimate heroes. Farm these fags.
>>93824846That one Skeleton Anon won't be happy that they made a Skeleton but it's the "wrong" kind.>>93825085Haha, fuck you.
>>93825221After some deliberation, I will concede that you're right. Adding blue takes the deck in a completely different direction, but the skelebug doesn't belong in a grindy combo deck like that. I tried to make Demilich work as well, but it's just a worse version of Rot Farm.Weirdly enough, we now have two blue skeletons in this set that care about enchantments. They would be awesome if their stat lines were slightly different, and I feel personally slighted by their low-power high-toughness design.
Kino
>>93825221>>93825705I did find something interesting, though. Iridescent Vinelasher satisfies the revival conditions of all three of our worthwhile 1-mana skeletons.
>>93820719fuuuuck, steamboat looks sick
Mindflaying Spirit UUULegendary Enchantment Creature - NightmareMindflaying Spirit can't be blocked.If a source you control would deal damage to an opponent, prevent that damage and each opponent mills that many cards10/1
"Bloodslicer Horde Leader" - 4RCreature - Human Clown Berserker (Uncommon)HasteWhenever you attack, create a 1/1 red Gremlin creature token.4/4
"Break down the Door" - 2GInstant (Uncommon)Choose one:Exile target artifactExile target enchantmentManifest dread
"Anxiety Test" - RSorcery (Uncommon)Choose two target creatures an opponent controls. That player chooses one of them. ~ deals 5 damage to that creature, and the other one can't block this turn.
>>93826024Completely fucking bankrupt designis it just AI generated nowI swear to god we're going to get something like>Ghostly Groundtender {2UG}>Creature - Spirit>Eerie - When an enchantment enters or you unlock a door, draw a card, then you may put a land from your hand onto the battlefield tapped. You gain 3 life>2/2oh look its another red limited chaff card that impulse draws, wake me the fuck up when spoilers are done
>>93826008>breaking a door exiles it instead of destroying it
>>93826018This seems very easy to set up kills with, especially with all the triggers trigger an additional time shit they keep pumping out.
>>93826024>BE RED>EXILE CARDJust fucking keyword this shit already holy fuck it's on more cards in more sets than 80% of Evergreens at this point fuck off.
>>93826018I mean, the damaged hair is a bit off putting but...
>>93826008>The flavor is literally breaking down a door.>Doesn't unlock rooms.these people have forsaken intellect
>>93825816>Iridescent Vinelasher satisfies the revival conditions of all three of our worthwhile 1-mana skeletons.That... is honestly very relevant.I'll mess with it.
>>93825705>Weirdly enough, we now have two blue skeletons in this set that care about enchantments. They would be awesome if their stat lines were slightly different,And, you knowif the fucking SKELETONS weren't BLUE
>>93826099Blue skeletons = SOVL
>>93826120Yeah, but we can't play them.The fact that they suck AND we can't play them is even worse. I was hoping for at least one thing from the horror set for the brew.
>>93826090I also can't remember if you looked at Throne of the Grim Captain when you were messing with the changelings, but I gave it a whirl since we're already running Mutavault and Corpses.https://www.moxfield.com/decks/oR4eDomXo0ycHw1n22EXrQ
Hey anyone remember that card Phyrexian Arena and how its actually pretty good but not seeing too much play because it kills you in race conditions / bad vs aggro and its not easy to splash with 2 black pips?What if we made it cost 2BAnd it made a 6/6 flying demon blocker for 5 mana and then started draining -2 life from opponent and +2 life to you each turn and became a 3 turn clock LOL
>>93826008
>>93826131Why would we run that? We can't exactly Craft it.Though it might be a good reason to run more of the Changelings... Worth pondering.
>>93826157You can exile things out of the graveyard, and changelings are Merfolk, Dinosaurs, etc.
>cast outrageous robbery x=3 on opponents end step>slickshot show-off, monstrous rage and callous sellswordguess it was my turn
>>93826131I think my overall point is that my main interest with deckbuilding is making things that are streamlined and robust to the unexpected.Now, I love big splashy face smashers as much as the next guy, and love me some retarded swingy shitbrews too, but for more serious brews like this and Prion Black I will always lean into consistency over volatility.
>>93825770thanks for reminding me of checking gratz
>>93826061What's even worse is the confusion between cards that let you play this turn vs until the end of your next turn. Had some fuckery at bloomburrow pre release because of that.
>>93826187I really wish they would stop putting random Engrish on their sleeves. They're some of the best quality ones I've used though and usually have good art but they're just that little bit overdesigned.
>>93825770Cute
>10+ minutes to fill a bo3 draftWhyyyy???
>>93826218>>93826218>>93826218The correct thread migrate when ready.No more genera.
>>93826224Are you waiting too?
>>93826018they really like the mayhem devil effect huh. there was already one before that made lose life
>>93826099why are skeletons mostly black? skeletons are white
>>93826000SEND IN, THE CLOOOOWNS!
>>93826018?Powercrept Mayhem?
>>93826024God i hate survivor cards too fucking much... The set overall is pure kino but these cards...
>>93824004>Then if you are playing Commander, double the number of +1/+1 counters on those creatures
The hearthchads are laughing at us again...
>>93826035>oh look its another red limited chaff card that impulse draws, wake me the fuck up when spoilers are doneI did a chaos draft a year or so ago with some new sets and it was fucking boring. The environments are all so samey and on rails that I might as well have drafted three of the same set.
