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>>93816914Is that Grayson's kid? He's cute.
>>93816914So is Gray's signature mech the locust, the shadow hawk or the marauder?
HONOR THE DRAGON!!
>>93816939I always pegged him for a Marauder guy, but then he goes and ditches it for a Victor like a moron and it gave him cancer.
Worst pose of the new models? My picks are:Mad dog looking at the sky. Griffin looking at the ground. Warhammer about to fall to it's back.
noob here. how much bigger or smaller a battlemap hex is compared to circular 32mm / 40mm bases? just want to know if i could use stack of empty bases to represent the terrain level (don't have the hex terrains yet, but got tons of 40k bases)
>>938171331.25" = slightly less than 32mm
>>93816943栗田家に栄光を!!
>>93816836>food, water, at least one recovery vehicle etc etc etc.Just buy off the locals you fuck
>>93817187Blackhawk KU?
>>93816939Why would you even think it was ever a Locust? He ends the 1st book in a Shad. Gets a Marauder in the 2nd and is still using a Marauder in the 3rd.Pretty clear that the Marauder is his main mech. For good reason too.
>>93817381I guess. I was thinking the same thing but its legs are backwards.
>>93816943>honor the dragon>blocks your pathNothing personnel kid.
>>93816943Reminder that the best way to honor the dragon is to kill yourself.
>>93817032Definitely the ELH Banshee that isn't facing a clear direction.
Asking again for inspiration.i've got a 3 player free for all coming up soon, and i need help with a scenario.so far all i've come up with is deathmatch or king of the hill
>>93817457Last one my group did was a secure an important object and carry it off the map in a certain direction. It was pretty fun when whatever mech picked it up suddenly got shot by literally everything.
>>93817452I like the walking pose a lot, but yeah it isn't facing the right direction and it looks stupid when you line it up with other mechs
>>93816939He only uses the Shad on one proper campaign (Verthandi) after which it gets handed over to his wife. I guess the Marauder since he won the Verthandi campaign in it and then also piloted it during the conflict involving the Helm Memory Core. And on Wheel (although that book isn't very good despite the setting and vibrosword ninjas). >LocustGrayson didn't pilot a locust. Lori started in one before Grayson gave her the Shadowhawk.
>>93817749I know he planned on piloting the Locust he captured from Lori in decision at thunder rift, did he actually take it into combat or jump straight to the Shad?
>>93817809IIRC he pilots it for a bit while working for the local government, and Lori's his head 'tech during that stretch. But most of the big confrontations on Trellwan are done with him in the seat of the Shad.Also, Grayson took on a goddamn Marauder AND a Crud in that thing. It's a shame he and Kai Allard never tangled. It would've been a fight for the ages.
I listened to the ghost of winter yesterday.pretty good bookAre there any other books that you guys can recommend?
>>93817391Look out Grayson, there's a Cybrid behind you!
>>93817940Heir To The Dragon
>he doesnt play a full lance of customs every game
>>93817032The Mad Dog is cool and I want to put it in my Ghost Bear star, but the pose is just so fucking bad. I guess I could chop it up and repose it, but i don't really have the motivation to.I'll probably end up buying a metal one.
>>93818114They have a premium mini I think that you can pose how you want. Will cost as much as metal, though.
>>93818190$15 on the Catalyst store site.
>>93817462any specific rules for walking with the objective to prevent 8/12/8 spiders from just trivialising things?
>>93818245The only rule we had was that if you had hand actuators, you had to stop on the item and could move with it the next turn, but if you didn't have hands you had to spend a turn picking it up. You could coke up with your own rules like "you can only walk with the item," though.
Eyyy boisTime to try it out
>>93818268HET
>>93818268wrong site Ivan
>>93818292Dont careWill play will have fun
>>93818310Why are you avoiding draft?
>>93818310If russia is to being so gret, why not go to die for?
>>93818325>>93818342I diagnose you with /pol/
>>93818268>yfw Putin didn't issue batchall for UkraineAll this shit could have been avoided if the forms had been properly followed.
>>93817940It's not directly Battletech but the Brigador audiobook is /m/ as fuck and also had an S-tier voiceover.
>>93818325>>93818342>>93818386what does this have to do with battletech
>>93818386Shut up /pol/brainedIm here to discuss gamesIf Russian lives in your brain rent free that just mere sight of slavic language puts in the state of anger, it clearly not my fault
>>93818404Not a damn thing.Meanwhile, I have three Points of Visigoths now. Fear me.
Has anyone dumped the newest Aces beta pdfs with the command cards? Id pay for access if they'd let me.
Is the Enforcer a good Medium to pair with a Shadow Hawk?
I'm trying to use mechs and variants that I normally don't, I need a 4th mech for this lance:Orion-1KHunchback-4HCenturion-ALLooking for another 4/6 medium with good armor, pre clan invasion, that isn't an enforcer.
Ok how do you guys actually transport these fuckersElementals especially, they look fragile as hell
>>93818430cope with your off topic, politically motivated posts?
>>93818593I'm not russian
>>93818602>I'm not russian>>93818573>>93818268Begs to differ
>>93818576Dude ignore himThey will always be angry no matter whatBetter tell me whats the best way to transport my dudesDo you guys buy like containers or something?
>>93818609that's not me
>>93818573I use leftover pluck foam from my old 40K transport boxes and just carry the trays. I have yet to find a carry case that I like. I'm considering modifying some cases for Christmas decorations to carry 'mechs in, but that's an involved project I don't yet have time for.
>>93818622>tee-hee I am just defending zigger for free I am not russian btw
>>93818621>>93818573submerge in foam or appropriate cushioning, ensure the container has a cushioning layer that prevents direct contact with the box itselfoptimally, make it so the minis don't directly contact each other either
>>93818654Thank you
Following up on >>93816725 from last thread and did a lazy scale-up, at left would be the Overlord corrected to match with the Atlas's scale. I figure the original might be how the plastic dropship scales to the Atlas mini, but that aside the Atlas just barely clears the scale-corrected Overlord doors now.On the larger sheet there's still some size discrepancies from what I can tell - the jumpship is 503 instead of 505 meters (close enough), and the Overlord is 121 meters instead of 134, which is small.Atlas to Infantry though is also fucked - that Atlas should be a little over six BA tall, 6.42 or so, but it's actually 3.6 while the Schreck is about 30% smaller than it should be compared to the BA.
>>93818573>>93818621>>93818625>>93818654Might I suggest Cantilever organizers?
>>93818573>Ok how do you guys actually transport these fuckersfeldherr-class dropships
>>93818573Pluck foam if you're a civilized human being, but since we know you're a Ruzzian and that's an impossible ask you can just use egg cartons like a poorfag. But just leaving them loose in the box is the true sign of orcishness, and you're not an orc, right comrade?
>>93818874>but since we know you're a Ruzzian>you're not an orc, right comrade?
>dude posts a box>people go nuts for no reason Man, thank god im normal
>>93818959You will never be normal ivan
>>93818967>t. spergs out over a pic of the box
>>93818994Enoy your plastic models before you get shipped to the front line and get raped by your officer
Who is the coolest of the snake clans? Not a big fan of clanners but I've amassed enough clan mechs I may as well paint them as something
>>93818782It's funny how invested some people are in something they're so obviously wrong about. Not to mention how irrelevant it would be even if they were right.
Imagine getting absolutely triggered by Cyrillic.Nobody tell them about Tikonov.
>>93818782Decided to throw stuff into blender and to try and scale to the given numbers since that's easier than messing with pixel ratio math. In BT Universe, then, the Visigoth was in scale with the Atlas, but infantry, BA, and Schreck were oversized; the Infantry were roughly in scale with the BA, but the Schreck was too small next to the infantry.Also pictured is an attempt at throwing MechAssault 2 in there just because I've got some files hanging around - their Atlas is actually pretty close in size to how the BTU Atlas came out.>>93819044I find it interesting how wildly off the scales are given it's the page meant to focus on scale. I missed it on my first time through the book because I was picking up on the typos instead, but it's neat to do a little scale-and-check.
>>93818265Or use the actual carrying rules
Are there any books featuring the Hotheads or are they one of those background merc outfits? I like their style and I'm hoping I won't have a bunch of required reading
Of all the missile systems (Streak, Artemis, TAG, Narc), streak is clearly the best of them, right?
>>93819041Depends what you value as "cool" as that's subjective for different people.For cool mechs and cool paint schemes, it's Steel Viper. Their second line forces especially, plus you get infantry which is cool.For cool thematically, Cloud Cobra pretty neat with all its religious stuff going on, would be good characters in an RPG.For cool in not being retarded, Star Adder runs the clan pretty close to a normal functioning military. And they always win, if you think winning is cool.
>>93819270A glance at Sarna would indicate they're in one short story, but I'd assume they're pretty backgroundy.>>93819327Won't waste ammo or generate heat if you wouldn't hit, tends to do better on the cluster hit table if it doesn't outright mean all missiles will connect - it's pretty neat so on a single-unit basis I'd say yeah, though I'm more an SSRM guy than an Artemis LRM guy. This said, TAG and Narc seem like they'd be great for allowing a larger unit to start raining indirect LRM fire on some poor bastard. Streak seems good for making safe, risk-free attacks and rationing a limited ammo supply, nice for a single unit while TAG/Narc can scale with/enable a more coordinated lance to shred specific targets.
>>93819403Narc would be a lot better if it worked like called shots. Like after you roll to hit and roll cluster, you roll say 8+ to see if that group of missiles hits the same location where the narc beacon is. Under 8 you just roll to hit as normal.
>>93819403>tends to do better on the cluster hit tableAll missiles hit if the streak gets lock on. No cluster roll is required, unless you're in an Angel ECM field.
Re-engineered lasers seem terrible, 2.5 tons for a medium laser?
>>93819327>Of all the missile systems (Streak, Artemis, TAG, Narc), streak is clearly the best of them, right?Streak hits all missiles (no cluster roll) and doesn’t waste ammo/heat, but it’s twice as heavy as a regular launcher. Artemis has the advantage of being much lighter and more widely available in earlier dates (before clans Streak was limited to just SRM2s iirc, and IS never replicated Streak LRMs). Artemis V, if you can ever get your hands on it, is also more accurate.NARC requires a dedicated spotter (it’s too short ranged to pair well with the launchers on the same mech) but has the advantage of requiring only one successful shot (assuming the location doesn’t get blown off). Stick a NARC and your spotter can do other things, whereas TAG requires a lock every round.TAG with semi-guided ammo has the potential to be extremely strong, but again it requires a specialized lance. Ignoring almost every negative penalty to hit and firing from safely out of sight, a lance of green recruits in LRM boats with a veteran spotter reliably landing TAGs can rain down ungodly amounts of missiles with relative impunity. Expensive on BV though
>>93818268>fucking Russia gets their kick starter before EuropeI swear, never a bloody gain. Also, apparently some German stores have kickstarter packs on sale now.>>93817896He pilots it twice, iirc, then jumps into the Shad, and proceeds to beast multiple Kuritan mechs in it. Then he gets the Marauder, then moves on, iirc, to a Gargoyle after the Marauder is destroyed fighting the clans.>>93817457I'll be on my PC later, I'll drop some stuff in the thread.>>93819327Adding to >>93819573, streaks cannot take special warheads, where as normal SRM's can, it's the same with LRM's. Smoke, infernos, tandem, semi guided, etc, are all fun.
>>93818573Magnets glued to the inside of the hex base and more magnets glued to the inside of stackable plastic totes. Keeps things nice and secure without having to worry about friction on foam or anything.
>>93819573Streaks are 50% heavier, not twice as heavy.
Commander, I shitted my cooling suit again :(
I wish there was a mobile version of SSW, making mechs on my phone on lunch break would be fun.
>>93819674his grandson pilots the Gargoyle. Grayson went to a Victor 9D until a Lyran Zeus gave him cancer.
>>93820255I've seen magnets fail when someone dropped their case before. It'll stand up to the usual jostling, but not impacts.
BLP is suing both Topps and CGL for unpaid royalties.
>>93820378Ronan Carlyle pilots a Gargoyle until he inherits great granddad's Marauder which had been upgraded with modern equipment. The new GDL book wasn't half bad imo.
>>93820474I wonder if Battletech's had enough unpaid writers over the years to make it a class action suit?
>>93820474Hoping this cripples CGL.
>>93820570Wait until after they release all their upcoming Kurita stuff though. The Dragon is owed.
>>93820605You mean those Force Packs? Yeah, sure. Plastic first, then crippling.Although in a better world, CGL losing the license to Battletech might allow for someone other than Shim to swoop in and make better redesigns. Seriously, I hate how every Mech now is overloaded with busy, asymmetrical panels. There's no breathing room.
>>93820484>>93820570Honestly, if i ever wrotte for CGL, i would be more than insterested on see what shit appears during discovery. If they fucked up with BLP, i am sure CGL fucked up other writters.>>93820605The Drac book is already done, but not in enough numbers.>>93820670Some are waaaayy too fat, and full of grebbles. And the models ended up looking like they were made by the same mech factory.
>>93820710>If they fucked up with BLP, i am sure CGL fucked up other writters.Oh, they have. This isn't anything new for them.>Some are waaaayy too fat, and full of grebbles. And the models ended up looking like they were made by the same mech factory.That's my primary issue with them. There's nothing that separates the Clan Mechs from the Inner Sphere ones, nor even aesthetics by era. They're one homogenous blob.
>>93820710>Honestly, if i ever wrotte for CGL, i would be more than insterested on see what shit appears during discovery. If they fucked up with BLP, i am sure CGL fucked up other writters.I made the comment that I did because battletech as an IP is infamous for not paying their writers. FASA, Fanpro, Topps, CGL, whoever, the writers don't get paid.
>>93820751>They're one homogenous blob.INB4 the newfags appear to say that now its the best time to be a BT fan and the shimmyseens are the best thing that came to the IP.
post cute mechs that deserve more love
>>93820861
>>93820850I'm a newfag and I like the CGL redesign models.
>>93820710>The Drac book is already done, but not in enough numbers.I desire this. Whose head must I claim for this prize?
>>93820936Only 100% pure American lead-free pewter will cleanse the stain of the cheap chinesium from you...>>93820943Go visit Loren or Randall at their homes. Bring your Katana.
>>93820850One of the oldest of oldfags and his designs are ok. I prefer Alex's take on things, but you are high on primer fumes if you don't think some of FASA's designs don't need an update.
>>93820970>Only 100% pure American lead-free pewter will cleanse the stain of the cheap chinesium from you...No :(
>>93820936you're right to. Most of the old sculpts and art are trash tier. Even one of the grogs at my table have swapped out their old archers for the new ones(although the other grog is one of those fuckers that's so hidebound, he insists that the Patton's LRM5 is front rather than turret because that's what the first TRO said), and there are plenty of other models direly needing an update, such as >>93820983 pointed out.
>>93820475Bu it's not great either. It's somewhere near the Fox Patrol, but not that bad
>>93818268Privjet malchik, davaj-davaj!
>>93820983As i already said, Shimmy have a tendency to fatten most of the models, to add grebbles to everything, and to make every mech way too "samey". You can ot can not like the old models, but at least they were distict. Now? It seems every mech came from the same factory.And thats not counting on how Shimmy got "inspired" on other people´s work to to his stuff (sure sure, he got "permision").But again, if you like the Shimmyseens, better for you. But dont you dare to call the classical art "trash". but you can call that to most of the PP models
>>93818245If you bring a spider you deserve to be able to cheese carrying small objectives.
>>93818573Varnish minis. Put in mini carrying case that has foam inserts. Or if you are cheap buy a pistol case from Walmart when hunting season starts. It's like a mini case filled with egg crate foam.
>>93819327The best are big standard clan srm and lrm launchers followed by mml. Then it's iATMs and atms. Then it's other shit I can't be bothered with.
>>93820850It's quite literally breathing life back into the game. It's not like the plastics prevent you from buying IWM minis.
>>93821322You really would rate ATMs lower than MMLs?
>>93821367Yes.
Thoughts on running a btech campaign with a solo RPG Oracle and having anons ask questions to see what happens and then fight the resulting insanity in MM.
>>93820970>lead-freeCoward.
>>93817749>And on Wheel (although that book isn't very good despite the setting and vibrosword ninjas).which book?
>>93821461A rock and a hard place.
finished reading this earlier today. i now believe that everything bad that happened to the clans after what they done to the Wolverines was completely justified.
>>93821367You never go ATM, man.
>>93821013>>93820983That's the sad thing, every good idea that shimmy uses was already established by Alex, he's just doing slight downgrades.
I had about an hour free tonight before I go to FLGS, so I got some painting done. Had time for 1 coat on the PHawk, who's going to be a 9 tonight because we're doing ilClam. Also bringing a Locust 5M3, a quasimodo, and a Carronade.
>>93821522Too bad nobody in-universe will ever know
>>93821461Rock and a Hard Place. It takes place after Helm, IIRC, but it's a fairly recent book. The Legion has to fight on a LosTech space station city for one reason or another, which is a pretty neat premise but nothing really happens besides some not very interesting action. The fact it was written way after Grayson's death was canonized means no one can really develop or anything. Some of the battlefield conditions are at least interesting to think about, which is something you don't find very often outside of GDL content for some reason.
>>93820929That's some Rifts-tier design right there.
What clan mechs would you take to a 6k BV game?
>>93816914Newfag looking to get into BT here. Do you decide a faction and that determines your rules or does it just depend on the mechs you field? Sorry for retardation.
>>93822042There are no "factions" in the same way that 40k does. Your "faction" is determined simply by how you paint your mechs.
>>93822042faction matters if you're trying to adhere to the setting for a campaign or if you're just really autistic, but even then, every faction steals mechs from every other factionadditionally every faction's mechs are built from the same set of rules, just with minor preference to some weapons over otherswhat really matters is time period, i.e. there's mechs that were created early into the game's setting and they're generally far inferior to stuff made a century later, BUT it's considered bad form to bring advanced stuff to a basic matchjust ask your group what time period they work with and they'll help you
>>93822042Are you just smashing mechs together in games without objectives?
>>93822042There aren't exactly factions in BT from a rules standpoint. The only real rule as to force composition is that each mech or other unit has a particular battle value, and games are generally fought between an equal battle value of units.Some groups may expect you to field a force that is plausible under the fluff, but that's really a matter of who you play with.
Is there a quick start image for campaigns like there is for ATB?
>>93822042Rules vary more on unit type and player preference than faction, which has more to do with how common a given chassis is.A 20 ton Locust and a 100 ton Atlas are both going to obey the same basic rules since they're both bipedal mechs, but if you want tanks, VTOLs, infantry, or jets, things get a little more complicated since there's different terrain restrictions per unit and motive type. It doesn't really matter whether you're Steiner, Kurita, a Merc, or a Clanner so much as what sorts of units you're bringing.Player preference also dictates the rules since you have the option to try and track more things like skidding on roads, weather, day/night conditions, gravity, and firestarting.Eras are also relevant when it comes to what rules you're dealing with since later eras add new technologies/weapons/etcetera and a basic example would be pulse lasers and their -2 to hit, or the growing number of advanced armors or support tools. Introtech - roughly 3025 or so - is the simplest era while trying to go to ilClan means you might run into stuff like Advanced Tactical Missiles, reengineered lasers, plasma guns, and ferro-lamellor armor.
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>>93821603Wait what's wrong with ATMs? SRM damage at up to 15, superior damage to SRMs at SRM range. They're heavier which does suck though.
>>93822320>Wait what's wrong with ATMs?They can't load TC or infernos.
>>93822042Not really. Various books define the mechs and skill level you tend towards but even then everything is mostly flexible. The only two "factions" are clan or inner sphere, beyond that it's more a matter of taste and ties to lore vs what you want (a third succession war house regiment with all highlander HGN-732bs stretches the imagination a bit).
>>93822083>>93822148>>93822201>>93822287Thanks a lot, guys. Have a much better understanding now. >>93822178I have no clue how the game is played currently beyond the hex map, I just think the models are really cool.
>>93822296That game will last 10 minutes
Pitch me dysfunctional but not immediately dangerous lancemates to roll up in ME 3rd ed. It's for a merc recon lance thats about to do a tour in space Vietnam.
>>93822334But they can load HE
>>93822380HEs can't force crits through armor though.
How do you make the Atlas 7-K good?
>>93822423It is not the mech that is bad, it is the operator.
>>93822423It's bad? It's got an amazing loadout. Its only questionable design choice is that in my experience XL Atlases tend to die a lot quicker than they should. It's great at any range.
>>93822379Canopian voodoo witch who left Canopus space under suspicious circumstances and maintains "the old ways". Hangs dried herbs fucking everywhere and goes into battle with white skull facepaint. Insists that shriveled hand she wears on a necklace is from a monkey, nobody is convinced.
>>93822379>"Brick">Does not talk, only grunts like a caveman. Even in combat.>"Otaku">A shut in who literally lives in their cockpit, hates to leave the mech bay, and rarely showers.>"Speed Ball">Is obsessed with going fast, in and out of combat.>Races their Jenner across the battlefield, and their gocart through the hangar.>"Enginerd">Has a doctorate in mechanical engineering>Is more interested in piloting mechs than building them>Very acoustic. May be sexually attracted to their mech.
>>93822399>HEs can't force crits through armor though.3 damage per missile>TAC on a -2 roll.
>>93822320I think part of the ATM conundrum is that it's going to be a commitment to maybe two or three tons of ammo in order to squeeze the most out of them for more than it would have cost to bring a set of the 'normal' launchers. An ATM-12's seven tons grows to ten with five salvos per ton compared to a CLRM20's baseline of five with six salvos per turn. For the same weight, you can feed a CLRM20 reliably for thirty turns straight whereas that ATM-12 will burn out of a given range in five salvos.Sure, the ATM can outdamage the LRM per missile 2/3 of the time, but CLRMs forgo minimum range and have a better short range bracket than the ATMs that pack enough of a punch to match or exceed. If the CLRM can keep the ATM at a distance and outlast their HE bins, it can afford to get in point blank and start really sandblasting within that minimum range.
>>93822466Assigned to the Locust. May God have mercy on our souls.
>>93822379The man from New Capetown who got kicked out of the FCAF for being racistClanner who left the clans after discovering GodDirt farmer from a flyover planet who didn't get the memo about the helm coreThe very trustworthy man with vast theological knowledge and cybernetic eyesOld man who lost both arms in the succession wars and somehow has 1/1 skillsCapellan deserter who really regrets stealing a vindicator
>>93822474Speedball has been accepted and assigned to the Vulcan. Brick has been accepted, transferred to the infantry, and promoted to chief NCO.
>>93822524Clanner who found god is tempting. Not sure I can pull it off. Stumps has been assigned to the Raven.
>>93822524>Capellan deserter who really regrets stealing a vindicatorYeah seriously, if you're gonna steal a mech steal a good one.
Is there any real reason to go for Ultra ACs over standard, LBX, or rotaries? Besides bricking themselves if you roll snake eyes, having to roll on the cluster hits table means you're just pissing ammo into the wind most of the time. Failing the hit whiffs two shells, and even if you do hit it's still a coin flip whether you land the second. At least a stock AC can load specialty rounds
>>93822678There's an argument for Ultra 10s and twenties, slightly longer range, 8+ isn't that rare, but 5s and 2s are just worse LRMs
>>93822678cause it feels nice when you get both AC/20 shots off
>>93822593New friend detected.
>>93822379Call sign "Ishtar." Minor nobility from the Free World's League. Hedonistic and extremely well-dressed, she always wanted to be a fashion designer, but ended up inheriting the family battlemech after her older brother died in a tragic tennis accident. She is unexpectedly bold in battle, but it's unclear if she's actually courageous, or just doesn't really understand the danger.
>>93822746It's a worse griffin when it isn't a worse laser centurion. It isn't unuseable but it isn't good either.
>>93822821>her older brother died in a tragic tennis accidentHow do you die playing tennis?
>>93822851You've clearly never played Marik tennis.
>>93822838I mean if you gave me an option of a Vindicator or no mech at all, I'd take the Vindicator any day of the week. But it's definitely not the first one I'd reach for as a Medium.
>>93822821Have her be a dropout from Our Lady Maria Auxiliadora Preparatory School so she's weirdly comfortable with infiltration and assassinations, but not actually skilled in any of that.
>>93822821>>93822902Are you pitching some kind of ditzy spoiled brat nobility?
The previous missile talk makes me ask on how do the other launchers with artemis compares to ATMs since they seem to have the system built in.
>>93822474>Ex-Camel merchant from Dieron Military District who continually scams other pilots out of things - up to and including valuable ammo>A Jew, a Muslim and a New Avalon Catholic from the Robinson March all serving in the same tank. they can never get along, unless there's a Drac around for them to try and kill>A soldier from Tikonov whose body has more vodka than blood in it now. Utterly fearless, but terrible aim>Guy booted off of Shiloh in the FWL for violating their religious tenants. Feels guilty and is constantly handing out tracts>Hardliner pro-Skye nationalist who goes around in full kilt and tartan and gets into fights with any Steiner loyalists. But he also looks like an African warlord out of Uganda.>Canopian who used to be on a reality TV show about mechs and can't get over being fired. She continuously breaks dress code by wearing the catears and tail>Outworld Alliance conspiracy theorist convinced that Clanners are actually aliens and that they probed him>Taurian pilot who keeps swiping from the salvage pile in his attempt to scratch build a Toro>Actual RWR revanchist>Ex-Marian gladiator who keeps ignoring orders to try and fight the enemy with melee weapons, spams comms with "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED" after every kill.
>>93818371>Implying that dezgra surat Zelensky would have honored the rules of zellbrigen.
>>93822913We're pitching a noble who is also specifically someone's sister. That should put anyone who knows anything about BT on edge. Noble sisters are always unsettling.
>>93822379weird spiritual chick who believes in healing crystals and astrology, when asked how shes doing she will ambush the other person into an hour long downward spiral of a lecture about the movement of heavenly bodies and their impact on how well her heat sinks are running that day. the astrology is super confusing now that you travel between star systems and she has to pause to figure what the fuck is in retrograde or if its even possible where you are. (she takes a penalty to pilot saves because she covered her cockpit in healing stones and her console is now a shiny claymore)
>>93822940It's less about the Artemis and more about the alternate munitions you can field. Ironically for a missile developed with versatility in mind, ATMs can only put out damage.
>>93822838>>93822892>4/6/4>9 tons of armour>PPC>1,024 BVThe Vindi does not deserve this slander. It is one of the best trooper mechs of all time, and you'd know that if you played more.
>>93822498What is it with locust pilots and being crazy?
>>93823032Have you ever driven one?
>>93823004There's also great variants. Like the 1020 BV VND-1SIC, which is a 45 ton Cent AL that can jump.
>>93823032Have you ever seen a Locust record sheet? Can you imagine a sane person driving that?
>>93822995>can only put out damageyeah I think I am starting to have that same view too, most times when I use ATMs I just forego the ER ammo for more standard or HE
>>93822967Dieron camel merchant accepted and assigned as company quartermaster. Tikonov drunk accepted and assigned to Awesome in fire lance. Skye secessionist assigned to a Warhammer in the command lance. He is responsible for body guarding the Lyran loyalist CO. Owa conspiratard gets double duty flying a Chippewa and being company S-2 or whatever the Intel bullet is. Rwr is in if that like a neo amarist. Gets a crud in the fire lance. Canopian catgirl gets a Javelin in the pursuit lance. Now to notate this all this insanity.
>>93823052>Almost every variant mounts ammo in the CTI'd be crazy too if I was always one stray crit away from getting shrapneled to death.
>>93823075I gotta be honest, I almost NEVER load ER into my ATM mechs. It just feels too anemic. And if you're regularly using ER you might as well just use LRMs.
>>93823032WOOP WOOP WOOP
>>93823113Look at that happy little guy. No thoughts, brain empty.
>>93822990Accepted and assigned to shad in battle lance.
>>93822379>about to do a tour in space Vietnam.Oh, you're going to Gibson.>Captcha NAM-8RI think I found your first custom.
>>93822990Her and the witch need to either be extremely catty with each other to the point where they aren't allowed in the same space without officers or security present, or else everyone expects them to be and neither really gets why everyone else seems to be expecting something.
>>93823169My first instinct was what's a Gibson. My second instinct was, is that where Ideal War was set? In either case what is it, who hired me and who am I fighting. Only hard rule is after clan invasion because I got a pilot with clanner hangups so they have to like exist.
>>93822913Spoiled noble, but delusional and enthusiastic about violence. Kinda Patrick Bateman vibes.
>>93823188It's option one. Thank God I put them in separate lances.
>>93823075Playing bigger maps. No Battletech game should ever be on smaller than a 3x3 board. Suddenly speed and range actually matters.
>>93823004thought the real problem is that it's a nightmare to maintain outside the Capellan, finding replacement parts and all. Even worse if you're a deserter
>>93823113I love the little vignettes they put in the old books.
>>93823195Accepted and assigned to flea in recon lance. It'll be nice to know royal shenanigans could happen at any time to fuck us.
>>93823192Gibson is ruled by the Blakists who are fighting the local Gibson Freedom League (Viet Cong) who are funded by the Regulans. It is exactly where Ideal War is set and Blakists are known for hiring every merc they can get their hands on for good pay and dirty deeds. It's a perfect setup.
>>93823230What's the timeline during or before jihad?
>>93823205Yeah, the Cappies charge a huge markup up Vindicator parts to non-state buyers. Aside from that it's a great mech. Those other two anons just don't understand the value of a good trooper.
>>938232423054 right after Tukayyid all the way until the end of the Jihad when Regulans glassed the whole world in 3080.
>>93823199>the witch's personnel folder is filled with citations because she told the astrology chick she put a hex on her and the astrology chick kept failing rolls
>>93823282Also, it's where they make clan tech weapons at home and reinvent LAM's and invent the Interface Cockpit.
Ok I got 10 more mech pilots I could use descriptions for. Also could use asf pilots, tankers, ba squad leads, chopper pilots, infantry nco's or platoon leaders, various support roles. CO's looking to be a flavor of Lyran social general but he's free lance so he can be a unified problem. So maybe a competent xo. Thank you very much to all the submissions put up so far. I am gonna run this through some solo RPG/campaign alchemy. If there is any interest I can write up what happens.
>>93823282Cool deal. That helps with what I can field or encounter. It also probably means we aren't getting out alive unless the we can just ride out the contract length and afford to leave.
>>93823292Hmm. Black ops testing by unknown UFO lams is gonna drive my s-2 fucking nuts.
>>93823320>unless the we can just ride out the contract length and afford to leave.Fun plot hook that's canon. A number of Blakist forces escaped Gibson and caused the whole trail of glassed worlds between Gibson and Circinus with the Regulans chasing them until the Master was cornered at the pirate capital world. Even then, if you survive Circinus, you survive the whole war.
>>93823378That's what happened to that one group if blakists who actually had a conscience and helped fight the rest. Regulus came a knocking and asked the planet they were on if it would rather be safe or sorry. It was a trick question, the answer was nuked.
>>93823308You last 10 should just be regular guys to balance things out
>>93823410Never forget they took the Boombox from us.
>>93823378>>93823410So I see two options. At end of contract when the blakists have to punch out I will have the choice to fight with WoB or join the Regulan force chasing them down. Seems fun either way.>>93823429Fair enough. There is already plenty of flavor rolling around.
>>93823378How has Circinus stuck around for so long? They were around during star league, they survived the succession wars, they survived multiple marian attempts to conquer them, that apparently survived blakists and regulans. And despite all this they're still an irrelevant backwater
>>93823308Guy who did a tour with the Marik Militia, didn't get the transfer/promotion to Free Worlds Guards that he wanted so dropped out to be a mercThree guys picked up from Astrokaszy after their caliphate went tits up, sometimes still impressed by running water and electricity that's on 24/7Ex-Nimakachi test pilot, can fly circles around other pilots as long as he's in a Spider or Venom.A guy who used to run his own merc company before he ran out of money, still owes the bank a lot from his initial startup, can't declare bankruptcy for complicated legal reasons.
>>93823471The Regulans killed the world, but the military remnants survived as Lincoln's Rotting Corpse into the ilClan when they were killed offscreen by some Marik fuck in a Goliath that went full furry for the Wolves.They were always the pirates that had the best blend of legitimacy and actual piracy. Marions went too legitimate and everyone else was too chaotic to really be unified except occasionally under a strong leader who would fail. The Circinians were the only real pirates with a government that still were full fucking pirates.
>>93823490>Three guys picked up from Astrokaszy after their caliphate went tits up, sometimes still impressed by running water and electricity that's on 24/7Accepted and assigned to a Scorpion, Wolverine, and Griffin in the battle lance.
>So you want to fight me?>No. I'm going to destroy you.When a Locust faces down a Dire Wolf, there's only 1 way it can end.
>>93823308Well so many mecha pilots, here's some tankers. You better have a full Force list for us later. >Brazilian-Japanese gyaru street racer from Itaibana who now pilots hovercraft like a maniac.>FedSuns Outbank tank pilot who absolutely lied about their training, they're mainly used to driving tractors. >St. Ives artilleryman who was kicked out of the Capellan military for accidental incidences of friendly fire against other Cappies. These weren't accidental. Also has a huge crush on Hanse Davion and anything FedSuns related.>FWL pilot shunned for being mostly cybernetic due to surviving multiple tank fires. Suspicious religious affiliations.>Lyran noble nitwit who fucked up mech piloting so bad was demoted to tanker. Shockingly, is actually really good at tanks, but is still constant underestimated.>Outworlds Alliance tanker who really wanted to be an aerospace pilot but is terrified of heights. Still spends most dropship entries and exits drunk and/or sobbing>Illiterate dumbfuck from a poor Canopian planet, after finished volunteer work decided to keep driving tanks. Very stupid, but very hot and charismatic. >Taurian tanker is who near legally blind, but incredibly lucky, tends to more often run into and over enemy forces.
>>93823052Honestly, I don't know what you're worried about. >>93823727
>>93823741>You better have a full Force list for us later.I'll get one up tomorrow evening after work. All of those will work.
>>93818573In a bits & pieces toolbox.
>>93823308Bill Johnson, a 45 year old retail store manager from the FWL who had a sudden mid-life crisis, cashed out his 401k, and learned to pilot a battlemech at a fly-by-night mechwarrior gym. He's a passable pilot for a recruit, with the right combination of competence, caution, and a desire to please his lance commander. Deep down he's still a "company man", but Bill is the happiest he's ever been in his life and won't complain even when assigned the worst mech the outfit has. He's genuinely just pleased to be here, and will die in his mech rather than become Dispossessed.
>>93823308Here's some aerospace ideas>Drac aerospace fighter who really hopes one day they'll run out of ammo and have to pull a Kamikaze attack. But their obedience to the commander means they keep getting denied the chance>FedSuns pilot who got their start dropping anti-Liao propaganda leaflets. Even in their merc life, they still write shitpost leaflets and do drops when they get the chance>Capellan noblewoman who is a giant aircraft nerd in general. Hobby is flying recreation biplanes over the camp. May or may not cosplay as a night witch.>Andurien pro-Andurien nationalist pilot who is a massive showoff, constantly taunting enemies by flying loops around them, or going to buzz enemy mechs. Acts like an Italian racecar driver.>German-Australian pilot from Coventry Province, runs a semi-legal boxing circuit in off hours> Outworld Alliance pilot who is actually an ex-Drac samurai who got sick of war, went to the OA to become a farmer, but ended up needing to blast pirates, and became a merc to pay for more farming equipment for new home. Is comically bad at pretending to be a hick farmer.
>>93823727He looked into the abyss and didn't blink. That DWF looked pretty busted up to start with though.
>>93821994>incubus>no vapor eagle
>>93823308>The classic art appreciator.Not quite what you think, the classic art this guy appreciates are various movies from the late 20th and early 21st century. He keeps telling people that the Bounty Hunter is just ripping off Boba Fett from the movie Star Wars, but nobody knows what Star Wars is anymore so everyone just thinks he's crazy.>The wargamer.This guy loves strategy games. Especially the ones you get to play with miniatures and roll dice. His favorite game is Battletech, which is based off of the real life mechs that Mechwarriors actually pilot into real combat. He has a mini painted up to look just like his mech and he's made it a goal to collect a mini of every mech in the company. It's a coin flip how other Mechwarriors respond to him. Half of them mock him for playing and getting excited over a game that simulates and mocks their job. The other half get interested in it and ask him to teach them how to play the game.
>>93824034It was, but that doesn't take away from the Locust's kill.Also, the accompanying force was not nearly as big as you'd expect to see for going up against a full lance of clanner assault mechs, with 2 squads of Elementals, and a reinforcement star of vehicles & mechs. It was Clan Fire Mandrill if you're curious.My total force was a: Marauder, Rifleman, Wolverine, Panther, Commando, Stinger, Locust, Vargar APC, & Achilles Battle Armor Squad.We were definitely outmatched in that one. Got real nervous when a Supernova with 6 clan ERLL came around a corner.Amazingly, only my battle armor suffered some minor damage and a minor injury. Everyone else made it through just fine. Truly, mobility is the greatest weapon of them all.
>>93821624Alright, since only 3 people came tonight, we invented a scenario on the spot. Since I have Marik Milita, one of my buddies grabbed his MM Atlas to be the objective. Whoever was in uncontested melee got to move the Atlas next turn, and nobody could shoot at it, goal was to walk the atlas off your starting edge. We had myself in the bottom right corner, ROTS in the top right, and Clan Sea Fox, here to steal some shit coming in from the left. I had the forces mentioned in the above post, the ROTS had a Neanderthal, a Gotterdamerung, a Night Stalker, and a Jackalope. Sea fox had a Mars, an Ha Otoko, and a Sun Spider. First few turns were pretty indecisive, I screwed up my heat curve with my Quasimodo so it took a couple turns to get the TSM going, but I put the Carronade on the hill and it gave me a lucky start to the fight by putting a Gauss slug into the Gotterdamerung on an 11.
>>93824102The Gotterdamerung was a harder shot this turn, so I swapped the Carronade to the Ha Otoko and we traded shots that both missed. The Locust walked to shoot at the Night Stalker while hiding outside of LOS of everything else, and the PHawk put his LXPL into the Sun Spider. The Mars missed shotts at the Gotterdamerung.
>>93824135oh yeah, I'm proxying my Nightstar as a Carronade since I don't have the mini, and the Hunchback is the Quasimodo because DUH.Turn 3 has the Republic take control of the Atlas with the Jackalope, and the Nightstalker backstabbing the Quasimodo. I took the Carronade off the hill so I could avoid fire from the Ha Otoko and cover hte lane to the objective, the Quasimodo doing a similar thing in the Heavy Woods by the lake. The Night Stalker went for the backstab and got it, but the firepower was so anemic that my quasimodo shrugged it off, and the return fire of the Carronade, PHawk and Locust amounted to only the LXPL hitting, but the Quasimodod did get off his punch with a torso twist, and put a 12 point divot in the Shadow Stalker's side torso. The whip in return missed.
>>93818245Depends on whether you hate lights or not. If you do>must spend one turn stationary on the objective for whatever narrative reason you make upIf you don't>must go no faster than a walk during the turn it takes the objective for whatever narrative reason you make up>>93820710Oldfag here. A lot of the Ral Partha sculpts were shit, but you absolutely have a point - back in the heady days of 1990, you absolutely knew at a glance whether you were looking at a Clan or IS mech. Granted, that says more for how much better the Clan art was than the older IS art, but whatever. They did an excellent job at portraying the Clans as a faction that was doing something entirely different than the IS, while still staying within their own strange design philosophy. (Note the reuse of legs between different designs of the same or similar weight.) The later stuff is way too samey.>fat and overgreebled as fuck>way i heard it they had their reasons for this>cheap chinese plastic in shitty chinese injection molds requires chonky models to work>they're trying to make things easier on new painters with the greebles, particularly ones using contrast paints or equivalent>prime, paint and wash is tabletop quality on greebly minis>kind of fucks us oldfags that like decals, but oldfags ought to know by now how to apply decals to greebled surfaces
>>93824174With Republic control of the Atlas, it begins moving towards his entry edge. We realize we never specified when it should move and all agree it doesn't count for normal activation but after quick debate, all agree that the Atlas moves separately from all other initiatives and at the start of the turn so that people can react to it. Also, for this photo, I forgot to take it at the end of turn 4, so this is technically 1 move into turn 5. WHOOPS. Imagine that the Ha Otoko is back a couple hexes, the Carronade is in the Heavy Woods, and that everyone else has movement dice.The Gotterdamerung had quickly moved in to maintain control of the Atlas, and I jumped my Phoenix Hawk in to contest it, while also bringing in the Quasimodo to go for double TSM punches hoping for a decapitation. Even though the Gotterdamerung has torso mounted cockpit, this would still take out his sensors as well as the LRM rack, even though that's mostly been shooting at the Sun Spider. The Jackalope backstabs the PHawk and eats an LXPL for his trouble, and the Night Stalker chases my Locust up the map edge. He has re-small lasers to my normal lasers and so I miss but he gets some piddling damage. The Quasimodo dumps all his fire into the Gotterdamerung and this is the first turn that both Gauss Rifles hit. The Silver bullet whiffs on the 15 chart though, and I barely get any BBs. The Sea Fox player surprises me by targeting the Mars at the Quasimodo, but most everything misses except for one cERML and a smattering of BBs from the LB10X. When it comes to physical attacks, the Gotterdamerung misses(+3 jump modifier doing WORK here and against the Mars), but the Quasimodo doesn't, getting one 12 point punch into the CT.
>>93824234Control was contested last turn, so the Atlas sits still. Sea Fox continues to inexorably advance, with me keeping out of LoS as much as I can while the Gotterdamerung makes hte pivotal decision to stay in contact with the Atlas, only rotating to be harder to backstab. I decide to make a play that looks foolish at first by jumping my Phoenix Hawk away from the fight, but in reality I'm setting myself up for next turn if we had it, but also preemptively defending my Locust. I don't want to be on the recieving end of the light mech conga-line, and LXPL has so far been my only gun capable of hitting the Night Stalker, which is the same 9/14 as my Locust. The NS goes for it anyway, and despite alpha striking with both mechs, again only the LXPL hits. That thing is pure value. Between the Carronade, the Ha Otoko, the Quasimodo and the Mars, the Gotterdamerung is in for a BAD time, but it ends up not mattering as after the Ha Otoko shoots it, the Carronade Follows it up with both Gauss Rifles, the silver Bullet Gauss putting one of the BBs into the torso cockpit after it had been opened up by the combined missile and gauss slug fire. The Quasimodo and Mars have their shots wasted before they even got to fire. (this is part of why its important to declare/write down your shots). The Republic player, not going to let one of his favorite designs go unavenged, dumps all 3 M-pods into the Sun Spider as well as both snubbies. With nearly 40 BBs, a TAC was inevitable, and it manages to find the one ammo bin on the mech that explodes. The AMS ammo in the feet. After some consultation with the rules on how the Clanner free CASE works, we determine that the leg was blown clean off alongside the side torso. The pilot makes his first 2 conciousness checks from the ammo explosion, and even makes the 11 to ride his mech down with a missing leg, but the first 5 point hit from the fall goes to the head, and he passes out.
>>93824295At this point, I have uncontested control of the Atlas, so would be able to move it next turn, and nothing the Sea Foxes have is fast enough to chase the Atlas, a phrase I never thought I'd say. With only my Quasimodo having taken any real damage, and that mostly concentrated on one arm, we agree to call the match in my favor as it's nearly 10PM, and I'd have 2 turns of uncontested Atlas movement, and have taken by far the least damage.It was a lot of fun. PPC blueshield served as a good fire deterrent even though it didn't actually soak any PPC fire, it encouraged targeting other things. Silver Bullet Gauss Rifle continues to be amazing, I've never seen it not perform, and tonight was no exception. Everyone already knows that normal Gauss is good, so Carronade was the perfect 1-2 punch of big slug then critseeking. Quasimodo was a lot of fun. I probably could have done with at Locust that had at least one pulse laser, but the 5M3 wasn't a bad mech by any measure. PHawk 9 also was very solid. The LMGs are a bit goofy, but I don't hate them. This is one of the places where IJJ are pure cash money, being able to jump for a +4 and then XPulse laser someone was amazing.
imo the ghost bears are regarded as one of less bad/more humane clans by people. but what are some cases that shows that they're the clans after all and equally bad?
>>93823308Blasi Falcon, a drifter born on a jumpship and been transient since birthday. His parents were Mercs with a past that always would catch up with them, so they stayed on a move, taking questionable assignments for quick cash. When they died, Blasi stayed on with the group that had a poor reputation. He served as a mech tech and learned to pilot when he would test a Jenner to make sure it was calibrated correctly. But after a bad assignment, he took the first 'mech in the hanger and made off like his parents did.
>>93823429>regular guysWow, such casual systemic racism/sexism/antisemitism.KYS
>>93824413>implying regular guys can't be gay niggasWho's the real bigot here, anon?
I need opinions. I want to have some infantry platoons available that match my existing forces; and I really like pic related. How-so-ever, ordered online direct they come in 8mm and I wonder if that's too big. Should I get a print on demand service or friend to print them out in 6mm, or are the bigger infantry going to be enough of a bother standing next to the mechs?
>>93824391You know, all the fucking shooting sibkos for having Wolverine genes?
>>93824391They found out some Wolverine scientist had snuck into their program and added some Wolverine DNA and in response they had all the affected tube kids kill themselves. Relatedly, they're big on killing anyone they think has Wolverine related DNA, even if they aren't descended from a Wolverine member directly. The entire reason they even got in on the Jihad was that Stone tricked them into believing there were Wolverine descendants in the WoB. They spent the entire war killing every single WoB they could get their hands on and testing their DNA. A lot of people killed every WoB they could get out of principle or because captured wobbies had a nasty tendency to reveal powerful combat augmentations, but the Bears did it only because they imagined that they might be related to the naughty clan.
>>93824433See from his perspective you've just outed yourself as bigoted because you don't consider gays to be superior to regular dudes.
>>93824449To be fair, Wobbies aren't people.
>>93824433Sorry, that concept was taken by clanners.
>>93820474This also brought Roy Calbeck out from under his rock
>>93824593Someone should put him back under it.
What do you think the movement profile of a bodyguard mech should be? Asking because a 4/6/0 often isn't enough to maneuver into kicking position on a harassing light. But anything with better than 4/6/0 is getting it at the cost of armor, weapons, or BV and all of those are unattractive costs when the primary goal is to cheaply deter aggression.
>>93824593who?
>>938246464/6 is fine as lone as he has guns, armor, or jumpjets. A Thud makes a great bodyguard, a Wolverine is handy because of its maneuverability, a Wolfhound is a good choice if your main threat are bugs and other speedy backstabbers.
>>93824436BT is technically 8mm. They should be fine. They might stand out against Davion or Kurita infantry from IWM but mini scale has always been an issue in BT.
>>93824720The guy who thought he had an ownership stake in the company because an unpaid intern accidentally copypasted his fanfiction (which itself copypasted the official description for its first half) when putting up a web page for the ELH. He then sued and lost because that's retarded, but he never stopped dreaming of owning the franchise because they accidentally used a little bit of his insane dimension hopping furry fanfic one time.
>>93824646Depends on what you're guarding. Usually keep members of the same lance/star all the same speed unless you're strapped for BV or resources. 4/6 is typically fine. Or 5/8 for Clans. If you can snag a mech that has JJs then you should be set as long as you keep it near what it's supposed to guard.
Given that the projectiles for Gauss weaponry amount to melon-sized ferrous slugs, would gauss rifles actually be the easiest class of weapon to supply ammo for? It's not like there's any warhead, guidance, or propellant beyond making sure the gauss rifle itself works and that you have enough metal to melt into a gaussball. For that matter, I bet it'd actually be relatively easy to make the actual rounds for a clan gauss rifle unlike trying to feed CLRMs and the like.
In the late Succ War era (~3030?), would it be unlikely for the mercs to get paid with a mech? (outside of salvage rights) Like, after working for the Lyran noble he pays you with a Zeus or at least Griffin refit packages and stuffs
>>93824930Some mix of mechs, refit time in a proper facility/factory, or parts as a sign-on bonus. Usually. Factories would be a little more likely to give out whole-ass mechs as a sign-on bonus than a noble. If anyone BUT a factory is offering one to you on a garrison contract you need to read the fine print extremely carefully and call in your ComStar man to make sure you have your retainer paid up.
>>93824924Clan gauss use space magnets that require space metal from clan space that are the only thing that interacts with them properly or some nonsense.you can manufacture slugs sure but shape and QC will matter so a crude slug wont fly as fast or accurate as one properly machined
>>93824976I’d just say tolerances are enough. Also one could say gauss weapons undergo a lot of physical stress from repeated firings so the barrels need regular work or replacement.
>>93820474Lord will someone teach these mormons how money works.
>>93824924Making a ferrous slug in the right shape is the easy part. Making sure the metallurgy is consistent with what the machinery was calibrated for is the hard part. Similar issue as stone ammunition for siege weapons. Shaping and weighing the ammo is the easy part but you can't control the density quite right and are liable to get spin/deviance that is beyond your control, causing inaccuracy and/or damage to the machinery.
>>93825047Matthew Beasley tried and the feds shot him.
So is it already hot inside the 'Mech just by turning it on and walking around? Or when you start shooting lasers and stuff then you need cooling vests and stuffs to avoid heat strokes?
>>93825313Western MBTs have air conditioning, as do battlemechs. I don't know what the temperature inside an Abrams in Iraq could get like but presumably no one died of heatstroke just from being in there. Granted, they're not firing off massive laser weapons. I would assume that the inside of a mech is stuffy but not horrifically unpleasant until you start carrying heat between turns. So, to quote from wikipedia about WWII submarines in the pacific>Should a submarine submerge for any length of time, the heat generated by the recently shut-down engines, electronic gear, and 70 warm bodies will quickly raise internal temperatures above 100 °F (38 °C). High humidity generated by tropical waters will quickly condense and begin dripping into equipment, eventually causing electrical shorts and fires.A battlemech must at least have life support equipment that can do the same job.
>>93825358I missed a line. It's talking about the inclusion of air conditioning on Gato-class subs, not just for comfort but to avoid shorts/fires
>>93825313As long as your heat sinks are running optimally your cockpit environmental controls are probably more than enough to keep your ambient temp comfortable.
>>93824924A gauss rifle can fire a literal I-beam torn out of a building.
>>93825392And a cannon can fire silverware or gravel. What's your point?
>>93825313>So is it already hot inside the 'Mech just by turning it on and walking around?That's what the life support systems and engine sinks are for. A couple of woefully underequipped mechs do build heat like that, but they're literal jokes. Running a bit of overheat is uncomfortable but manageable, especially since it usually only lasts for a few seconds before the sinks bleed it off. 10+ is very uncomfortable. Pushing your mech past shutdown thresholds and holding it there is enough to get cockpit heat up in the 140-150 F range, and you REALLY do not want to stay there for long. Life support crits mean your pilot starts taking damage as you overheat, even when it's only for a few seconds -- which implies you're starting to get into the multiple hundreds of degrees. Although as with a lot of things BT, that's going to be an abstraction to make something that would normally take a bit longer actually show up in a meaningful way on the table.
was there any streamer warriors? and i dont mean arena, im pretty sure everyone does that there to some capacityim talking about real conflict streaming.it is dumb because enemie can literally streamsnipe you but i also know that people record and upload their crimes on the internet all the time
>>93825568Battletech operates on dialup and cassette tape, dumbass.
>>93825568Who would they stream it to?
>>93825580what about planet wise
>>93825358>I don't know what the temperature inside an Abrams in Iraq could get like but presumably no one died of heatstroke just from being in there.We cheated by running the tank's NBC system hoses into our onesies and under our spall vests to keep ourselves cool. The A/C in the M1A2 SEPs isn't for the crew, it's for the computer because if it gets too hot it cuts the tank off to save itself.
>>93825568Stream, no. Film and commentate, yes.Mechs automatically record combat on solid-state recorders of some kind called BattleROMs. Apparently they're big enough to store fights from centuries ago that the current owner can find by accident while rooting around in storage. People trade ROMs of particularly good fights at mercenary hotspots. There's also an entire mercenary group (Greenburg's Godzillas) that films mock battles with mecha dressed up as kaijus and/or weird mech variants. And several nations have propaganda units that film battles for internal consumption, like the Kuritan idol group and the Capellan supermodel mercenaries.
>>93825313The mech itself is hot pretty much all the time while active. Myomer runs very hot, that's why just walking generates heat and is one of the biggest hurdles for implementing any application of it.
>AWS-8Q, THG-10E, GLD-4R, CN9-ALWould this fit in the Fire Lance designation?
>>93825644>the Kuritan idol groupThe what now?
>>93825392At the risk of knocking its magnets out of alignment and rendering the gun worthless until repaired, yes.
>>93824038
>>93825644>the Kuritan idol group and the Capellan supermodel mercenarieselaborate and/or source, please
>>93820378You are right, don't know why I had a Gargoyle in my head then. Probably the cover of Operation Excalibur.>>93820475That would be impossible, Graysons Marauders was destroyed, not simply knocked out.
>>93825692Hey, did you end up finding those 3 player scenarios?
>>93824593Actually he's been freaking out before BLP decided to announce his suit.Unicorn boy can't stop spergin.
>>93824197I keep hearing you guys say Greeble, what the fuck is that?
>>93825752Bullshit glued to spaceship models for scifi movies in the 70s to add texture and give the suggestion of the ship's mechanical components for verisimilitude.
>>93819086Can someone link that Mechassault 2 scale pic? First time I've seen it.
>>93825761In this context its modeling unnecessary lines, raised surfaces, and otherwise apparently random textures to a design for presumably the same purpose. A lot of people don't like excessive greebling because it makes decals and painted detail difficult or impossible to apply. Contemporary art designers tend toward overwrought designs because software has made it much easier to do and these adhd cunts have no restraint.
Holy Blake, IS ER weapons all seem bad. Too much heat for too less return
>>93825783To build on this, greebles exist in order to make an otherwise flat featureless surface appear visually interesting, particularly on film. Having greebles on your designs is not bad, the problem is when you stop having a mix of flat surfaces and greebles surfaces, in favor of *nothing* but greebles. Good use of greebles is the Millennium Falcon; the relatively flat upper and lower plates are contrasted by the extreme greebling along the edges, and and on the engine decking. The relatively plain flat panels of the TIE Fighter are contrasted by the heavy greebling of the struts attaching them to the eyeball.Because, as was mentioned, the "ADHD cunts" designing Mechs these days have insufficient restraint, and any flat surface is a "boring" surface. Good art design is balancing contrasting ideas, not going all-in on one thing. Supergreebling exhausts the eye to look at.
>>93825828Part of that too is how the greebling was done, too. TRO 3025 had tons of armor plates, but those were depicted by carving seams into otherwise flat surfaces, which still gave detail but didn't handicap applying decals or freehanding paintjobs.The new ones though were made apparently with the then-new contrast paints in mind, so greebling is very exaggerated. Makes contrast paints look better. Makes using anything else a bit of a pain in the ass.
>>93825813When you have already spoiled yourself on clantech, lostech outside of the gauss rifle definitely looks anemic. Much of it was a side-grade to standard IS tech rather than a full upgrade that would render basic weapons fully obsolete. Before TW's autocannon ammo updates though, the AC10 was completely btfo by the LB-10X. Still the case now but not completely.
I painted more tonks because I had leftover wash on the palette. Not enough for the 'mechs but they're a wash away from being done too.
>>93825924I have many to begin painting now.
>>93821522>retconned low quality nonsense literal decades after to jerk off a write off faction and to ruin any moral ambiquity and intrigue, all tinted with modern political leaningsBet you love fan fiction too.
>>93825924That looks really good. What if the red was on a bigger area and chipped the same as the yellow?
>>93825701Oh shit yes. Well, they are scenarios I cooked up for as many players as needed. I'll post them when I'm on my PC tonight, sorry about last night, it's been a busy week and I forgot.
>>938244366-8mm is fine. Also, don't sweat the overall look of them, at 6mm anything beyond colour and maybe a support weapon are pretty much impossible to distinguish at tabletop level.>t.has proxies his ww2 French as Marik infantry before now
>>93824488smoke jaguars
>>93816914anyone else do TRUE western style mechs?
>>93825943how was it before the retcon?
>>93818874you fuckers are even more obnoxious than the bronies.
How is this principes guards company from 3135?
>>93825943qrd?
>>93826038>cowboy hat>not a quickdrawmy disappointment is immeasurable
>>93826493If any mech needs a cowboy hat it's the Marshal
>>93826083The wolverines were slightly spastic and overreacted, and while Nicholas Kerensky is a crazy wackjob he wasn't so blatantly turbo retarded evil. Nor were the other clans painted as drooling retard mooks.The newest books just made shit so black and white simplistic its like it was written for retarded zoomers.
>>93826561It probably was.
Man, why are XL engines so expensive c-bill wise? I get they're advanced tech so in-universe they'd be more expensive, but like nearly double the price? I feel like the devs overestimated how useful the tonnage saved would be useful in a campaign. Which is ironic since you'd think more fragile but upgunned mechs would be better and (more expensive in BV) for pick up games rather than campaigns where repairs are important.
have any of you tried to play a ttrpg campaing with mechs?it would be kinda cool but im not sure what system to use outside of the mechs
>>93826038>dickflamerbased.
>>93826638stop caring about cbills they are not accurate, xl engines in 3025 are not the same lore wise as 3100 in price but there is no mechanism in game to adjust for that
>>93826736>stop caring about cbillsAre they not the whole point of playing with the campaign system, starting from your force creation?
>>93826736That's right, c-bills are old news. Everyone's using sea-bills now
>he didnt invest into NFT mech paint patternlollmao
>>93826703
>>93826703Don't listen to >>93826862, use second edition instead. It irons out the first edition problems while sticking to the 2d6 system.
>>93826862>>93826868oh shit these do exist
>>93826891They do, but they're outdated. Battletech: A Time For War is the current supported rpg from Catalyst, but I haven't read it so I don't know what the similiarities/differences are from the old FASA products.
>>93826982A Time Of War*
>>93826982I can't speak to how the game plays, but I will say it's at least the best organized rulebook I've ever seen them put out. No lifepath system in this one, it's just pointbuy. I thought that the lifepath from the older systems was cool.
>>93826868>>93826862do these have like missions to play regular battletech? or they have their own weird version of it
>>93827031And people say there isn't Davionwank baked into the setting as the designated Ultramarines. They got a picture while everyone else is just a text block.
>>93826982>>93827031Lifepath is bad, A Time of War XP history buying is worse. >>93827041There are a few pre-made adventures for 2e that include both regular on the foot plot and fighting as well as mech battles using the Battletech Classic mechanics. >>93826736RPG guy here: no.
>>93827041(This is for ATOW since that's the book I have)Until and unless you get into a mech/tank/ASF, it's all lower scale, and something like an Elemental would be a big climactic boss battle because most of the time you're just dudes on foot. And since it's geared towards infantry, the vehicle and mech rules are even more granular than Classic Battletech, and since it isn't just /mydudes/ the merc company, it's Jim Hawkins in his hero mech, you're almost always going to have SPAs. Also movement and shooting happen at the same time rather than being broken into two phases.You also see lots more variant with how the weapon effects work, where an AP gauss rifle has a higher armor pen stat than a machinegun since against non-mech targets in the RPG scale, that actually matters, where CBT doesn't care nearly so much.
>>93827047Lyrans got one too, but it's on the Wobbie page, and the page about knightly promotions has a dude in FWL dress uniform. There's a Drac mechwarrior on one of the gear pages, some Steel Vipers on the trait page. The prestigious military academy page is funny because it has every Great House except the Lyrans represented. Honestly, there's a pretty good spread of all the major factions in the art, but there's definitely more attention than the statistical mean paid to the Davions and Dracs.>>93827094Lifepath is FUN. I've used it in a ton of games, mostly from Modiphius titles, but I also did a Mechwarrior character background for one of the pilots in my CBT campaign. Never actually played the RPG, we just did chargen, but it was still quite enjoyable, and great for if you've got players who aren't good at writing their own backstories. It's also good for if you're playing with a group that doesn't necessarily have a deep lore knowledge of the setting.
Put together a themed company, 12 mechs, 12k BV. Here's my Draconis March Militia company.
>>93827246>The prestigious military academy page is funny because it has every Great House except the Lyrans represented.I always thought it was fun to imagine all of VSDs friends sighing and patting him on the head because he attended Nagelring and they just felt bad for him.
Anyone have any idea what a Destiny campaign is? Have a guy at my shop who has floated the idea of running one, but he hasn't really explained shit and just seems to expect everyone to know. That A Time of War or is it something different?
>designates you with TAG
>>93827361It's a relatively rules lite RPG for Battletech. No connection to ATOW.
>>93825746Yeah. While he have been under the radar for most of the BT fandom, he is still active in Twitter.
>>93827361It's an "RPG" in the sense that you theoretically have rules and need to abide by them, but it's basically an improv session and I cannot for the life of me think it'd be fun to play unless you had a -really- good group.
>>93826342asking again
>>93827727>>93827375That rules lite huh? I'll have to ask him how he ran his last destiny campaign and get a feel for it. That sort of thing relies on the GM as much if not more than the group. And I don't know how good the group at the store would be honestly.
>>93827047Seethe.
>>93826038Hey! Eshbaum Marshal. Have you printed one already?
Shitbox mechs like the Rifleman, warhammer, Phoenix hawk, and such have so much more soul.
>>93828142Only one of those mechs is a shitbox.
>>93828166You be nice to the Warhammer!
>>93828333You're a bit late to the party.
What's the most underrated mech and why is it the Centurion?
>>93828276stand it in a lake and fire your PPCs all day. volley fire is for people who don't know how to make proper use of their mechs. Marauder has the same gameplan.
>>93828394centurion?its like one of the most popular fool proof mech
>>93828394For me it’s the spider, the best scout mech
>>93828412>4/6 with two ammo weapons and not great armor.It's probably the worst introtech 50 tonner.
>>93828348Didnt saw this posted here. Its just some info for those that dont get into the shithole the OF is.
>>93826638They're priced like they're brand new cutting edge wundergear. Prices are static and so they remain priced like cutting edge, hand crafted by top engineers miracles of science even a century later when everyone and their mom can slap one together in a garage.
>>9382844355 tonand fedsuns use it soo much
>>93828503oh yeah its new CNT that is 55 tonmy bad
>>93828459Both XL and endo require an orbital factory, so likely remain high for the same reason jump cores do.The original fluff was it wasn't so much the manufacturing expense as the problem that you only got about 1/3 production success on the crystal shielding (another pun as xl is also short for crystal in geology). We also get DA lore that the Sharts are intentionally keeping XXL prices high through artificial scarcity.
Do WoB Level IIs mix the Omni Celestials with regular mechs? Or do they try to keep it pure like the Clans?
>>93828768Celestials are mostly for the manei domini, they have small cockpits so you really want VDNI and they use C3i which isn't compatible with regular c3. There are times i'm sure when due to necessity they are mixed but its very rare
>>93828394>most underrated mechTalon. I don't know how people don't talk about it more, but an 8/12 maximally armored 35 tonner with an ER PPC has basically seen me through dozens of games. It can also force a PSR within 9 hexes.>why is it the Centurion?Frankly, the Cent is one of the worst introtech mediums. 4/6 isn't enough especially with 8.5 tons of armor, and a standard PPC will outdo an AC10 all day until you have the tonnage to factor heat sinks. I want to love them, but each game I've played with Centurions they inevitably have to chose between THMs versus getting a good shot, get focused, and then fall pretty rapidly.Shame too, the Piranha/HBS Centurions look good.
>>93828822>the Piranha/HBS Centurions look good.We've been over this. They don't.
>>93828768>Do WoB Level IIs mix the Omni Celestials with regular mechs?Yes. MD have some specific designs, but if you look at their RATs there's tons of standard WoB machines they chose from.
>>93828047No one cares what a breeding sow for Dragon offspring thinks.
>>93827983It is really, really, really fucking cringe.
>>93828889Amber Diceless Downfall vibes.
>>93828889Destiny Rules rules stuff is nice and honestly not as a complicated as A Time of War. The only thing we did was get rid of the whole "Everyone is a DM" and just had a DM for the sessions we did.
>>93828889>It is really, really, really fucking cringe.Anon, you're with friends here- you know you can act like a dork with your friends right? You know that the best times of your life can come from not caring about how other people see you, right?>Captcha: HDAYo no
>>93828832>t. doesn't know what a level ii is
>>93828822>Talon. I don't know how people don't talk about it more, but an 8/12 maximally armored 35 tonner with an ER PPC has basically seen me through dozens of games. It can also force a PSR within 9 hexes.TRO 3058 have a lot of those "hidden gems" that not everyone are aware of, like the Talon or the Lynx.
>>93828916I have no idea what that is>>93828925Yeah, I guess? But like, for combat, there's already Battletech. Outside of combat? There are fairly any meat to the characters so, like, I guess it's cool for some light roleplay outside of playing Battletech?>>93828948Look, I know in-jokes are cool with friends, and every group has their own style, but I'm mostly mad about this being the example of "typical" gameplay... And the fact that they just SUDDENLY DECIDE that yeah three 'mechs show up. The next paragraph has the pirates turn out to be DEST agents, one gets shot, another player says "oh uh yeah his buddy escapes", and it just seems to remove all tension and conflict when you can just improv a "nuh-uh" whenever you feel like it.
>>93828889>the autist cringes when he sees friends goofing off with each other
>>93828822>Talon. I don't know how people don't talk about it more, but an 8/12 maximally armored 35 tonner with an ER PPC has basically seen me through dozens of games. It can also force a PSR within 9 hexes.It turns out that a worse Pack Hunter is still awesome.
>>93829121>like, I guess it's cool for some light roleplay outside of playing Battletech?It's a full roleplaying game for everything that isn't vehicle combat (though it has rules for that too). It's effectively the 5th edition of the MechWarrior roleplaying game.
>>93829384You almost got it, but went to far into the word salad. Better trolling for the next time.
>>93827246>The prestigious military academy page is funny because it has every Great House except the Lyrans represented.Isn't the Nagelring arguably the most prestigious military academy in the IS?
>>93827246>Lifepath is FUN. I've used it in a ton of games, mostly from Modiphius titlesWhich books are they doing life path in? I've got their Dishonored book which doesn't have it and the 2d20 system seems a bit fiddley, plus some stuff from when they were working with Free League. No life path there either.
>>93827246>Lifepath is FUN.Fun doesn't exist. Quantify it. Account for fun on a spreadsheet. Then you can argue that it matters, but until then, "it's just FUN, guys" is a meme argument and you lose for making it.
>>93828831We've been over this, you're nobody and only nobody cares what you think.
>>93828802Do Manei Domini exclusively use Celestials? I've see a bunch of minis on Camo Specs of people painting regular mechs in Shadow Division liveries. I don't know if that was a stylistic choice or not though.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Traveller can do Battletech almost effortlessly, and with all the lifepaths you could ever want. It even has hexmaps.
>>93829682Apollyon's personal ride was a Shootist. The Celestials were specifically designed for MD use but they did use other mechs as well.
>>93829701And in fact, it's not a coincidence. FASA made Traveller content before Battletech existed.I kinda want to go through their back catalog and see if I can spot any precursor ideas to BT.
Where can I find Christopher Purnell's BattleCorps stories? They're not in Cranston's folder, nor the mediafile one. I'm looking for Dingane's Day, a Cover of Paint, From the Ruins and a few others.
played c3 for the first time tonight and won despite my opponent having 2(two!) ECM suites.
>>93829443Prestigious only because its crammed full of people with titles, not for producing capable officers.
>>93829701>>93829721You can't/really don't want Traveller characters and BattleTech 'Mechs on the battlefield simultaneously due to how each game handles modifiers; a Traveller character can be a MechWarrior but shouldn't be a infantry unit unless you want to recreate Heavy Object.
>>93829910You don't want Mechwarrior characters on the same field as mechs either, so it's not really a new problem. Just do what they do and go to actual Battletech when mechs are fighting.
>>93829832Literally all Lyran officers being bad is a dumb meme, and everyone else also heavily considers wealth and nobility in their school admissions process.
>>93826038That's a cool marshal.
IS protos when.WHENHEN
>>93830052>this copeIt's not a meme if it's true, and there's a marked difference between a school courting prestige to turn out capable leaders and warriors and a school courting prestige for names to add to the grad roll. Sun Zhang is the former; Nagelring is the latter.
>>93830052There's a difference between favoring nobles and capping non-noble ranks at Captain. The Lyrans are literally making a pre-Napoleonic mistake.
>>93830080>deliberately adopting unreliable and dangerous tech for no discernible benefitNo
>>93830080...why? IS weapons and engines weigh far too much. Is this a roundabout way of demanding total tech parity and a flattening of the setting?
>>93829431I... Guess? I guess I got turned off by it completely by the absolutely autistic example of play so I didn't actually look into how the conflict resolution worked, since you can just use a plot point or your turn when narrating to say what happens instead....Oh, and the fact that inventory items "do whatever, lol". I guess it's just not a style of playing I am used to.
>>93830128I don't think there's any tech limitation that would necessarily prevent IS Protomechs. The thing stopping development would be 'why tho'. In universe they're kind of a weird bridging of the gap between BA and Mechs and didn't really work all that well, born out of desperation from a Clan that clanned too hard and died because of it.
Newish to the setting (played a bit like 25 years ago). Is there a good TL;DR of who the Inner Sphere and the Clans are? Is that too broad and there are more specific factions or subfactions I should familiarize myself with?
>>93824449Don't forget the whole part about the Bears are anal about the whole "that guy might have Wolverine blood in his veins 200 years later so lets kill his entire family just in case" because some Bears saw the escaping Wolverines and said "fuck it, that's the Wolves problem since they won the Trial to decide who gets to kill the Wolverines" and they have guilt over it all these years later.That would be like the US Army still swearing a blood feud against the family of Benedict Arnold because some private saw him get on a boat and didn't give a shit and all these years later everyone is still pissy about it."
>>93830218
TAG, NARC or Artemis?
>>93830246TAG for sgLRMsArtemis under normal circumstancesNarc never.
>>93830098You are meant to think of The Kells, Victor S-D and Aleksander Kerensky as being good at their jobs and having had good training. You are meant to take the information that it was an SLDF training center that maintains training programs for all branches as it being high quality.>>93830109Sun Zhang passes out swords you are supposed to kill yourself with if you ever have to retreat.
>>93830265>Sun Zhang passes out swords you are supposed to kill yourself with if you ever have to retreat.And yet, somehow, despite that, and the fact that the Lyrans have by FAR the best industry, MIC, the heaviest mechs, and the most of them, it's the Dracs who spend most of the succession wars eating the Lyran frontier, up until the Davions come in to show them how to fight in a non-retarded fashion.
>>93830265I argue that any competence possessed by those you named developed in spite of Nagelring, not because of Nagelring.
>>93830246After the rules changes, TAG does basically everything NARC does while weighing less and putting your spotted in far less danger.
>>93830265>Sun Zhang passes out swords you are supposed to kill yourself with if you ever have to retreat.Is that supposed to absolve the LCAF office corps?
>>93828822>TalonIt also has tag. This is very relevant.
>>93830218How in depth do you want it? And what is your preferred medium?
>>93830289The problem is not with the junior officers who are just out of school, it's with the culture of high command and the people writing doctrine.
>>93829832That war college produced Focht.
>>93830436Who was a botch-up until he became Focht, and that wasn't in Nagelring.
>>93830289>the heaviest mechs, and the most of themThat's the funny part. For the whole of the SW, they're getting slapped around by Jenners and Panthers because they don't have anything to effectively hunt them.
>>93830452He was a fuck up from hubris not training. The fact remains the nagelring produced two of the finest military minds in the setting.
>>93830424Junior Officers become senior officers. Those infamous Lyran social generals all started out as social lieutenants.
>>93830474Which of course is a very silly explanation that isn't supported by tabletop rules unless the Dracs are also bringing half again the lyran's numbers to every engagement.
>>93830476And the fact remains that their talents didn't show in Nagelring, only after they left it and learned from better teachers.
>>93830474One medium laser checks for crit on a Jenner, and a Griffin, you know, the iconic Lyran mech that's so synonymous with the nation that they keep a pair in the throne room, that can run down a Jenner. And as much of a meme is, it should kill a Dragon every single time. Lyrans just suck.
>>93830501No one taught Focht.
>>93830519>No one taught Focht.Com Guards taught Focht.
>>93830530comguard didn't exist yet LORELET
>>93830488Junior officers start off bright eyed and eager to improve their nation's performance and the 1% that make it to General have spent 40 years doing laudanum and playing bridge and replaced all their knowledge of maneuver warfare with the steps of various ballroom dances.
>>93830541That's what AT&T wanted you to think, demento.
>>93830488>he advanced from being the lieutenant of the ballroom to the general of the ballroom No one will ever respect the LCAF after they lost so many battles to the Dracs
In the name of the Golden BB, by the power of 10 cUAC/2s, I summon thee Kraken!Bring forth thy bountry of multiplayer scenarios.
>>93829106My favorite experience with stuff like this was playing a Clan vs Clan game. My opponent brought the standard late-era Jade Falcon mechs. I brought my Scorpion Empire PGC stuff like the Naja, Lynx, Drift Shag, and a bunch of second-line machines. He was absolutely not prepared for the Lynx to crush his Flamberge and Hierofalcon.
>>93830246TAG = iNARC > Artemis >>> NARC
>>93829441If the trannyjanny had left it alone there would've been bites.
Minor update to Instant Action, some typos and irregularities fixed.
>>93830809You playing that lance game tonight, MCA? Really concerned about that PPC parade your opponent might bring while you run away from that Atlas.
>>93830833I am, yeah, we'll see how that'll go. There's also a game of Aurigans vs Definitely Not Comstar happening at the shop right now, apparently they're playing High Risk Extraction.
So a planet played the clans in a game of football for a trial of possession. What if they challenged them to an eating contest? Would the clan take it seriously and send out an elemental who packs away 4000 calories a day to not starve? Would said elemental defeat someone like Joey Chestnut?
>>93830833Looking forward to the report. I'm super curious if he does what I'm predicting: Maxim hunting with that Wasp, and trying to bring down your Wolvie with a PPC party.
>>93830873>I bid my star of Elementals to win this eating contestIn all seriousness, I don't think they use non-combat trials for anything major like for a planet.
>>93830917meant for >>93830857
Are the rules I'm finding online for Manei Domini Cybernetics still valid? Where can I find them in print? Or at least collected in a decent format?
>>93830873Clanners don't have to accept every challenge you issue them. They're liable to interpret frivolous challenges as an insult and then deny you zell. The situation on Sheliak is different because>the DCMS had evacuated the military garrison rather than fight>the Ghost Bears were familiar with football and already had a casual team, judging by the fact that they came in knowing the rules With the way clan culture stresses careful use of resources, something like an eating contest is liable to look like Inner Sphere degeneracy and be scorned.
>>93824391Not sure if it qualifies per se, but the BLP short story in the Clan Invasion box set has a Ghost Bear Star Captain rescind his zellbrigen bid against the DCMS Honor Guard on Constance and unleashing his entire Striker Cluster against the remnants of the last company for luring his force into a field of vibromines.
>>93831122Fuckin A. The Clans had to learn the hard on Tukayyid, but they'll never let the goddamned sphiggers get one up on them again.
>>93830928Well they did do that one with American Football.Sports probably are your best bet for baiting clanners into weird trials, because they're physical but also have very tight and transparent rules with clear winners and losers, and there's very little waste since there won't be any spent ammo, destroyed materiel, or even fatalities. Soldiers playing football against a semi-professional team has at least a veneer of fairness, although obviously Elementals blow any normal human athlete out of the water. Given that the alternative was to fight the local police who can't even start to fight back or just take the planet with no trial, a football game made sense.
>>93831258>>93830928The funniest part is that the Clanners took the one guy who managed to make a field goal against them as a Bondsman and adopted him as a unit mascot.
Made a purchase while waiting for my opponent
>>93831333I can smell you
>>93831333I have genuinely unpacked human tissue samples that were less securely packaged than these roads
>wars of reaving>home clan butthurt over not having IS holdings goes full retard with snek alliance flipping their shit>sounds fun>kill off like half the clans permanently, if you liked any of them fuck you we blew up their cum vaults >sever all connection to clanspace, ruining any chances for home x occupying x spheroid fitan, or even skirmishes in the clan to inner sphere transport corridor >results in nothing really moving in the setting since the clans hadn't done much before now and can't do anything for a while from a meta perspective, the fuck was the point? all they did was write off a bunch of stuff people might like (read: encourage purchasing stuff) in exchange for ??? and maybe one notable deep periphery hybrid powermaybe I'm just missing something, were the minor clans and clanspace that much of a hassle to keep around? seems modern writing just keeps trying to whack as many factions as possible
>>93831336Ivory soap and English Leather?
>>93831342It bothers me that the roads are not centered on a hex.
>>93831361Pure devwankery. They puffed up the factions they liked at the expense of the rest, and fuck the playerbase's loyalties to the factions some of them chose 30 years ago.
>>93831361You are way overestimating how many people liked the homeworld clans. The point of there being a bunch of homeworld clans in the first place was to sort of imply that even if the initial wave was dealt with there would always be more. They later decided that Jade Falcons are like high elves, there are as many as the plot requires, so there was no point in having a bunch of other factions that were basically the same except they rarely interact with the main part of the setting.
>>93831387>and fuck the playerbase's loyalties to the factions some of them chose 30 years ago.Post your Blood Spirits right now loser There is nothing worse than fake fans.
>>93831361The point was to slim down the number of major factions because the poor writers were so overworked from writing about clan wolf's latest victory.
>>93831361>nothing ever happens in the homeworlds>nooo how dare the writers actually make something happen!
>>93831407I would not insult my asshole by wiping with the best of anything touched by Blood Spirits.
>>93831403>names the Falcon>doesn't mention the Jags being rezzed from total destruction
>>93831426You are a faggot.Nobody likes the Vipers. Nobody ever liked the Vipers. Their logo was always too dogshit.
So what happens when the writers kill off your army?No more codices?You have to burn your models? What does the extinction of your army actually mean in a historical board game?
>>93831426No models?
>>93831436Yep. Resurrecting the dead is far worse.
>>93831438t. some shitbird Green ParakeetAnyone who played Bloodright loved the Steel Vipers.
>>93831361When WizKidz took over the licencing rights they demanded that as many factions as possible be killed off to streamline the narrative.I believe the original goal was to trim the setting down to 4 factions total, before Topps took over and there was a course correction.
>>93831451In progress. They just got reinforced by my Kickstarter pledge.
>>93831467>When Jordan Weisman's new company took over from Jordan Weisman's old company, they demanded that as many factions be killed off to streamline the narrativeWhat?
>>93831473The reinforcements.
>>93831467>4 factionsWhat would that even be, stoners, mercenaries, invader clan, home clan? Or stone, merc, wolf, falcon/bear?
>>93831436There's a difference between a weird black ops cult that theoretically draws it's lineage from a dead culture and a group noted to be screaming morons that take huge casualties everywhere they go for a hundred years remaining a credible threat to nations with a population in the hundreds of billions.
>>93831473So which Galaxy is that?
>>93831445As they advance the story timeline, you simply disappear from the narrative except as points of historical reference.
>>93831490Triasch Keshik
>>93831478Pretty fucking stupid, isnt it? But WizKidz made a lot of retarded decisions that nearly killed the entire game.>>93831482Probably Wolf/RotS/Periphery/Mercs
>>93831483Yes, and that difference is the Falcons getting their shit pushed in by other Clans under Clan rules, and the Jags being deliberately hunted to extinction by Operation Bulldog all the way to Huntress.
>>93831445You can no longer play you favourite faction in any point after they are gone, and you will never get to enjoy new stories about your favourite part of the game.If you don't understand the significance of that then you probably have too much autism to interact with normal human beings.
>>93831520
>>93831407I thought stone lion was cool
>>93826493who you callin pinhead?>>93828098idk who eshbaum is>>93826708gonorrhea
>>93831630>LITERALLY "We have Hell's Horses at home"
>>93829796Excellent, bro.
>>93831414I'm hoping, delusionally I suppose, that between ward being a massive twat and the wolves having nowhere to go but down that they're gonna start getting shit on if only a littleor the narrative will just be le doggo ilclan vs. upstart of the week in perpetuity
>>93831737Akshually the lore is Viktor steiner-davion vs Katrina steiner-davion in perpetuity, queer fanfiction bs doesn't count.
>>93831756The only bright spot about that if it were true is that at least the place wouldn't look like this shitshow in 3151.
>>93831781>canopus is the size of an IS power>taurians exist, arguably I get playing favorites with the femdom hedonism genetically engineered catgirl sex slave country but this is just unfair, look at all those neutral periphery stars they could've had
>>93831756Fedcom Civil war was pretty fun. I don't know why the video games don't start there. There's so much you can pull from that era.
>>93831842The scale is kind of fucked, Canopus has as many worlds as an IS power's individual regions, they are just far apart. Also, for a long time now Canopus has been a complete pet of the Capellans, meaning the point of building them up is just to build up the Caps.
>>93831258Which sport would the Spheroids have the highest chance of winning against the Clanners?
>>93831922Cappies have done quite a bit of building already.
>>93831927having sex with the sole purpose of reproduction.
>>93831927I don't know why but Chess seems to keep coming up in my mind. It's a game more about strategy than martial prowess, no matter who you pick for the clans they're going to be on equal footing to a spheroid. I could be wrong and there's actually some Clan Chess league that'd mop the floor with any IS player.
>>93831896overshadowed by clans I'd assumeeasy to sell>new existential threat, new iconic mechs, new autism, comguards rise up, new starleague holy shitvs.>clans are done and the two houses we fused is too op for the setting now so the spheroids have to have yet another shitfitas an elevator pitch
>>93831842The tears of ironically facsist Taurian players sustains me.
>>93831438I used to be in a World of Tanks clan called hte Steel Vipers Tiger Division.
>>93831963the fuck you on about now?
>>93832008Cry harder, fash-twink
>>93831781Look at the dragon growing into the suns like a fucking tumor.
>Just got 116 blisters of DA+ IWM metal for less than $6.50 apiece.I swear either this dude got a divorce or died, but this is the biggest haul of 2014+ metal I've ever gotten. Really gonna fill out my late era forces.
>>93832019I fuckin hate it like you wouldn't believeplease dear god just fill in the space and make it a normal looking bulge I beg you
>>93832021Neato, any particularly good pieces?
>>93832021jesus I only got like 4 lances and I barely have the opportunity to use them, jelly as fuck
>>93832016trying too hard
>>93830423Honestly, just something cursory is good enough for now.
>>93831581You don't appear to be a vaccine.
>>93831896We have that video game though. MW4: Mercs.
>>93831927It would have to be something fairly obscure and highly technical where the physical advantages of the elementals wouldn't just win them the game by default. No contact sports that's for sure. Niche winter sports come to mind. Something like snowboarding big air or half pipe. Alternatively gymnastics events like horizontal bar, parallel bar, or balance beam. The problem with this though is that I don't think the clans would go for it. They're too far divorced from combat to serve as a trial.
>>93832019>>93832023nah it got fixed
>>93831781Heard that the Canopus is planning to backstab/at least betray the Capellans. Is that real?
>>93832026Bunch of DA tanks like Arkab trinity Mk II's and later era VTOL's that are worth their weight in gold. Shit ton of Madcat Mk II variants for some reason. Omni Centurion with the bubble cockpit. Absolute shit ton of Clanner DA Mk II's like Thor II and Loki II in various configs. Roadrunner. Some ilClan Mechs in various configs. The fucking OOGLAY Dieselpunk Blackhawk.Mastodon. Cave Lion. Bunch of Society stuff including a star of the superheavy protos. Prototype Ryoken III's. The motherfucking Handheld Weapon Headless Grasshopper.What a glorious day.
>>93832083I hope so. It's justified to kill Capellans. They're not people.
>>93832085>Handheld Weapon Headless Grasshopper.Quickdraw I mean.
>>93832083>Heard that the Canopus is planning to backstab/at least betray the Capellans. Is that real?No. The Canopian princess is literally next in line for the Capellan throne. They're taking over, not splitting up.
>>93832071Because Yori Kurita is an incompetent pretender.
>>93832071thank you, I feel better now
>>93832108Hmm. Does this make cappella s based? Do we get rid of the gay command economy and social credit for blackjack and catgirl hookers?
>>93832071Still don't understand why Julian killed Torinaga instead of using him for something. Was there a tie-in novel or something for that?
>>93832109Lyranfag here. You need to reconsider your idea of incompetent. I could show such sights.
>>93832108That Kai's granddaugter or something with YLW?
>>93832118Nah, the princess has a weakness for Davion cock and is tsundere for Julian. She's gonna be like "Teehee, that was my hoe phase. We're a proper capellan monarch now."
>>93832131Bitch ditched YLW for a fucking Black Knight in 3149 so they could publish a shitty 3D render in Legends 1.
Did the Dragoons came of out the closet before the Invasion or shortly after?
>>93832132Fuck this gay sphere.
>>93832143I think it was shortly after
>>93832143In the middle of it. It was during the meeting on Outreach when the clanners were selecting a new ilKhan after Leo got Shiloned.
>>93832118>>93832132>>93832142>Danai Liao-Centrella inherited the famous Yen-Lo-Wang BattleMech from her cousin Kai Allard-Liao and piloted it on Solaris VII as he and his father had. She later replaces it with a Black Knight named for a respected foe: JulianHoly shit you guys weren't joking
>>93832049This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2arGyCiZ4hA&list=PLxmAhPtq_sv9dM1qJE_QBm-HuUknwEyMV is a pretty decent introduction to 3025 all things considered. I'm not aware of a good intro for later time periods, but if you understand 3025 everything else extrapolates from there.Alternatively if you want a more...colorful take and you have a few extra minutes you can watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQhzlXcmTzw which is both longer and much less objective. Take everything in this with a grain of salt. Everyone here is gonna yell at me for sharing this and screech about how its full of shitty inaccurate memes, but frankly despite it's flaws it still a decent starting point as long as you don't take it as gospel. I do not recommend his other videos, but this really is probably the most concise introduction I am aware of.
Game happened. Full batrep later tonight. There was a fun charge attack and a benny hill moment
>>93832260Looking forward to it, Mapbro.
>>93832083On the one hand I hate Capos, on the other hand I hate women. Hopefully they kill each other and the FWL and Suns partition them like Poland.
>>93832238HBStech intro was really good imo, albeit not much informational
>>93832293HBS intro cinematic was a wonderful intro to everything up to the beginning of the Succession Wars. Wonderful music too.
>>93832293It reminded me a lot of the opening montage from the Valerian movie, except about unrelenting violence instead of utopian idealism.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u0FX8sd1uVo&pp=ygUWdmFsZXJpYW4gb3BlbmluZyBzY2VuZQ%3D%3D
>>93825828Its also a bitch to paint, because excess paint pools into it and thickens.
>>93832126Looking at the state of the FWL, you're not exactly at the bottom of the barrel of competence in 3151.
>>93832343Skill issue. Thin your pants. There's nothing wrong with the new minis and you grogs are just upset that you're being filtered. It was long overdue. Thanks for keeping it alive and all, but we're here now and we'll take over from here.
93832437Glaugrauder strides past your weak attempt at bait.
>>93820475It's been a hot minute since I've seen nuBSG, but I swear that Isobel looks like Kara "Starbuck" Thrace. Odd choice for a face reference since Starbuck flies Vipers.
I can print recordsheets straight from megamek quiaff?
>>93832664aff, from the meklab
>>93832071That's still pretty rough for the Draconis March at least.Also, Cappies-Kuritan war when.
>>93832083>>93832108>>93832118No, the Canopians are betraying the Cappies and siding with Andurien, it already happened. Andurien literally started reclaiming worlds they lost in the Victorian war and the Canopians are letting it happen, because Daoshan was a dick to his whole family. Humphreys literally cucked Daoshan, its pretty hilarious.
>>93832821>Humphreys literally cucked Daoshan,It's my headcanon that Duke Humphreys sends Daoshen cuck-trivids of him fucking the hot sisterwife then laughs while going on safari Branthback with a laser rifle.
>>93832821That sounds dangerously based for purple burd.
Branth rider forcepack when?
>>93832848I'm sure it will all go wrong in splendid Marik-adjacent fashion.
>>93831781There's also the bright spot of dicking down Katrina at the end of a campaign, whether you're Lyran or Fedsun.
>>93832821which book do i need to read to learn more detail about this?
>>93832863The only good thing that slut ever did was produce Alaric for the eternal seethe of a Clanner noble. It's also a tiny bit funny Hanse's grandson took terra.
>>93832863>KatrinaIsn't she very dead?
>>93832881There is probably a genetic clone on ice in some brian cache.
>>93832877Poor Vlad, he didn't even get to make a child with her (gene)
>>93832881The statement is about the civil war era, when Katharine Steiner Davion changed her name to Katrina, and a bunch of Lyran court officials who had about 60IQ for plot reasons decided on that basis to help her ruin the most powerful state in the known universe.Anon is either making a about how slutty she was or perhaps a rape joke.
>>93832872Empire Alone. The Canopian bitch went to her brother to try and get him to reign in his jackbooted thugs and he basically told her that everyone, including her, only exist to serve the Confederation and her people can get fucked, so she got some Andurien units to take over peacekeeping duties and then just sat back when the Andurien urge to backstab took its natural course.
>>93832848Wait till you hear about how SAFE has what was basically the single best wetworks operation of the entire succession wars. I'm phoneposting and don't have the image ready, but I'll post it later if nobody's picked up the slack.
Where can I find the rules for Manei Domini Augmentations? Are they in one of the CGL books?
>>93832966Let me save you the trouble.>Kills a Combine Coordinator>Nobody figures it out until 200 years later.
>>93832919>about how slutty she was or perhaps a rape jokeBoth, depending on which faction you're playing.
>>93832979Johad Hotspots: 3072, though it's mostly a reprint of Covert Ops.
>>93832982You left out the part where they did it by coopting a Lyran spy cell and so got the blame laid at Lyran feet and kept the Dracs busy invading them for another 30 years.
>>93832260Awaiting this batrep fervently.
bad news anons, my campaign of 7 years real-time is over and it's doubtful if the group even stays togeather. This didn't surprise me that much after last session lost like a third of its playtime to a player whining about his favorite mech getting decapitated and wanting to retcon it, but it still sucks. And to be fair, the GM was a bit too much of a minmaxxer even if he limited himself to about 85% of our BV for most fights, but we as players were all getting sick of the endless parade of 2/6 or 2/5 pilots, half with SPAs. But since I only ever used the namefag to keep my batreps searchable in the archives, I'm probably going to retire it and post as anon full time rather than just 90% of the time. I'll catch you folks on the flip side.
>>93833162Condolances SK. Best of luck to you, I hope you find a game again.
>>93833162Sad way to end things, but that's life. Thanks for batreps.
>>93832979they are spread over a bunch of different books including interstellar ops
>local meta has 10 players>9 of them play draconis combine
>>93833329Based
>>93833329Your meta is pleasing in its honoring of the Dragon.
>>93833329Luckily the dracs fight each other about once every five years.
Which weapons get the best mileage out of low/better gunnery skill? preferably among introtech weapons. AC20? LRM?
>>93833384PPC.
>>93833329The fact they tolerate even a single inferior in their midst is a dishonor to the Dragon. Destroy the infidel.
Posting my Smoke Jaguars. Nearly a full binary now.
>>93833384PPC and LRM. They both have very narrow short range brackets, so most of the time you'll be shooting with the +2 from medium range. Outside of introtech, MRMs, for the same reasons plus the latent +1.
>>93833409I despise Puff Pussies, but those look hella sexy. Thumbs up.
>>93833427 MRMS suck on unskilled pilots, you know its a +1 penalty right?
>>93833439Read the post I was replying to again
What kind of Islamic (cultural) influence might the Arkab Legion have caused on a planet they have stationed for a while?
>>93833447I doubt anyone is going to convert o Islam because of the local garrison, but as one of only a few legal religions in combine space there are probably adherents all over.
>>93833447I don't know, have some Arabic be adopted into the local slang? Convert some of the populace to Islam? Otherwise for the most part Arkab are pretty loyal to the DC, and they're relatively isolationist, so it's not like they're actively trying to assimilate any worlds they occupy for a bit.
>>93833491>>93833491>>93833491New thread
>>93833447>Polygyny. Praise Allah for multiple Drac waifus
>>93833329Please tell me the 10th is a davion lyran.
