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>>93906480>TQYour mom
>>93906493What does it take to crew her?
Favorite vehicle?Choo Choo motherfuckers
>>939065036 black creatures
>>93906480this amongst others in fun "road rage" greasefang feck.
>TQIt's shit but I love the art and the concept.
what if every standard deck was $25wouldn't that be good for everybody
>>93906493>>93906503>>93906519
>>93906575kek
>>93906480>TQ
Vehicles are still a very confused subtype and I am still not sure what they are supposed to be or what wotc wants them to be.They always are completely unplayable or completely meta warping, with very little in between.
>>93906601They, and energy, are the unwanted children that were left out of the original Mirrodin block. Shock of shocks, they are both very easy to make unbalanced.
>>93906575it's kind of gross how mainstream this meme is. even high school students know about it
>>93906503Your Mom{16}Legendary Artifact - VehicleAs an additional cost to cast this spell, you may sacrifice any number of Foods. This spell costs {1} less to cast for each permanent sacrificed this way.When Your Mom becomes crewed, for each creature that crewed it this turn, create a token that’s a copy of that creature, except it’s 1/1 and it’s a Human Sibling in addition to its other types.Crew 62/10
>>93906641Do you think porn is some secret niche hobby?
>>93906480>TQThe only vehicle I've ever used was Schooner so it's that by default>I'm going subterranean!>I'm gonna Schooon!!!!>I'm Schooonnninggggggg!!!
>>93906649I doubt that many people have actually watched the video. People know it more through derivative memes.
>>93906670Yeah, so why would it be weird that it's gotten mainstream? Especially among high school students, edgy memes are their bread and butter.
>>93906675Sorry, I'm actually in agreement with you. I was just making the point that most people know it secondhand, rather than actually knowing the porn it's from.
>>93906737My apologies, years on this site have left me instinctually primed to assume people are disagreeing. I should probably see someone about that.
>>93906537Idea: New Policy at WizardsIf you waste great art or a terrific concept on a shit card, 5 lashings in the town square
>>93906601They're supposed to be a way to circumvent wraths and sorcery speed removal while still having a creature feel. On paper, it's a good idea. They apparently have trouble with the execution.
>>93906480hello I hate vehicles
I love pirates, they never quite made it but I had fun anyway.
I'm actually surprised wotc reprinted one of my favorite cards
vehicles were kinda fun but are too slow, they would need crazy support cards to make it at least playable like say what skellies get with tribal enchants to give them haste or menace, or in the case of vehicles things to get past the inherent weakness of needing a pilot, at what point do they get so many boosts to make them viable that they just become defacto normal artifact creatures with some flavor.
>>93906517
>>93906480>tqVehicle adjacent
>>93907281I've always wanted a durdle archetype that's themed on setting up a trade empire. Converting resources, bargaining for deals, creating trade routes, that kind of shit. Revel in Riches obviously gets reprinted as the wincon.
How long until next spoiler season? I'm really anxious to see how they fuck up Standard forever with Foundations.
>>93906480>TQThe one and only
>>93906480>TQHeart of Kiran. Love it as a card and the art. The art direction in Kaladesh is my favourite of all Magic planes, so I generally like pretty much everything from that set, but Heart of Kiran in particular.
>>93908016I forgot to mention Aethersphere Harvester was so good in standard. I miss that time.
>>93906480>>93906575>>93907281Arcee?
Duskmourne?! More like duskSHIT!What is this!? The worldbuilding is awful! Valgavoth doesn't even make any sense! Who thought of this, this year's winner of the worst woldbuilder in the universe award?!And look at this! Basebal? Baseball?! So what, is Babe Ruth running around Duskmourne?! Is Valgavoth draining fear form the damned Pittsburgh Pirates!?And it's all so broken and hideous! Card design is so lazy, and the flavor text makes me want to puke! This set fucking sucks!It sucking fucks!I'd rather spend my evening going to an escape room with my friends than play this shit!I'd rather huff donkey farts out of the Jolly Balloon Man's balloon animals!I'd rather manifest my own death!Fear of Missing Out?! More like Fear of Not Being Absolute Shit!Or how about Fear of Good Designers?! Oh! Or Fear of Spending Money on Quality Control!
>>93906480>Favorite vehicle? Alternatively, favorite artifact?
>>93908318This, but unironically and with additional criticism for the uninspired designs of Manifest+, Constellation+, and Suspend+
>>93906480>>TQReckoner BankbusterOni Cult Anvil
I, for one, appreciate that Wizards has finally entered the design space of "Directly insulting your customers."It's a refreshing twist from the usual crypto-corporatist cash grabs and uninspired derivative slop.
... Standard?
>>93908423>Directly insulting your customers.
>>93908479Standard is a turn 2 format now. Nothing that costs 3 or more matters, and God help you if you lost the coin toss.
>>93908546BO1 is not "Standard", nor "Magic" at all.
Our meme !
>>93908609Arena isn't Magic to begin with. I was talking about how your local FNM is soon to be buried in Red Deck Wins.
>>93908626>SorceryThe card already does nothing, why restrict it like that?
>>93908691so nothing changed
>>93908626>not the one with the flavor text reading "I have seen you"7/10
>>93908479>>93908546>>93908609>>93908691>>93908733>grindpiler whinginglol
>>93908815>buzzwordslol
>>93908838>NOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING EXCEPT CAST 3+ MANA THREATS NOOOOOO DON'T INTERACT WITH ME OR EXPECT ME TO INTERACT WITH YOU UNTIL I'VE DURDLED FOR FIVE TURNSlol
>>93906480>Favourite artifactI have a catI make a pieSimple as
>>93908626Unironically playable in rdw
>>93906480How did this card survive the wizard woke purge??
>>93908691Anon, Leyline of Resonance is garbage and reduces consistency of already good decks outside of BO1.
>>93908907Its shit design, makes rdw decks even more of a lottery machine resulting in salt on either side
You play a mountain? I scoop, fuck all degenerates.
>>93908919maybe commander would be more your speed
>>93908698Because the original is a sorcery dumbass.
>>93908815>>93908928>Grindpiles>Mountain enjoyerAnd then some people wonder why aggrotards are the most retarded players.
>>93908981>retardedwhy, because i enjoy decision making instead of just chucking mythics at each other after 5 turns of doing nothing??? lol
>>93908626>>93908698>>93908956oh it's a reference to vindicate, very funny
>>93908996>Should i kill oppo with Slickshot or just hit with HH and sac it?Really the galaxy brain kind of decks
>>93909020yeah that's what happens in matchups with durdling grindpiles, it's not what happens when your opponent is actually trying to play the game
>Vein Ripper no longer exists to brick creature decks>Now we get to deal with the same cat/oven infinite blocking loop that has been spewing vomit all over the game since it was introduced>Except now it's in the same deck as Kikki-Jikki infinite blocking loops.Never in a format's history has a B&R update made a format this much worse than it was before. How has cat/oven not been nuked from every god damned format it's such a design fucking abomination.
>>93909417>Vein Ripper no longer exists to brick creature deckshow do you explain rakdos aggro being the best and most popular deck in the format in the last 7 days then?
>modern without MH or UB when
>>93909562>how do you explain rakdos aggro being the best and most popular deck in the format in the last 7 days then?Anon you need to ponder your inability to comprehend time as a linear construct.
If I’m trying to integrate myself into an lcg is it better to first time a prerelease or a draft night? Sorry for the stupid question I’m shy and socially retarded
>>93909417I'm just glad Treasure Cruise will be sticking around for at least another 6 months, there's no way they hit anything from Phoenix given the current meta.>>93909583Prerelease usually has more new players so you'll be in good company.
Hows type 2 these days? I played a bit on MTGA both BO3 and BO1 during ONE and MOM and it was alright besides Unending Despair and stuff, but when they announced the change to set rotations I just lost interest and quit during Eldraine spoilers.I imagine art and expansion themes have both been getting worse and worse, but how's gameplay and balance?
>>93909729I'm playing Lizards and having a good time. Excited to try some form of Delirium after Duskmourn drops, but I am worried about Foundations fucking everything up.
>>93909583Prerelease. Its about half commander people usually that just go there to get new cards. Nicest mtg setting i can think of outside of playing with friends.
>>93909417Jund sac is far from a dominant deck, Azorius control and any deck who can establish a clock can dight it pretty effectively
-3 Death Baron+2 Vorpal Sword, +1 ShadowspearThe amount of times we ever actually attacked with Death Baron was so close to zero, that it was literally actually zero. Noting that the Deathtouch aura was still potent, I went digging for alternatives and found one that is proving mighty fine: Vorpal Sword.Deathtouch enabler, fills a similar 3cmc pump slot (B + bB to equip = same "Mana value" as Baron) while also being more versatile, and more difficult to remove. The added kino of simply butchering someone from any life total once you get enough mana is the real juice.As it would turn out, equipments are really quite good in a deck with so many recursive threats. If we don't have a body for them, we can usually find one.I've opted for 2x Vorpal and 1x Shadowspear, though. Vorpal + Spear combine to effectively blank all attempts to block, and I think the rare lifelink from Spear plus its occasional protection stripping will come in handy more often than a third Vorpal Sword.
>>93908016>art direction in KaladeshAgreed, it was fantastic. One dude was suprised I'm using Magda to tutor Skysovereign, Consul flagship during modern evening instead of some finisher, as if I needed any reason other than that beautiful art.
Enchantress beatdown: winmore or what the deck wants to do? >>93909417Can't you just kill the oven? There are so many cards with Shatter as a mode at least one has to be mainboard playable.
It was at this moment Jeskai energy player knew, he fucked up
>>93908849>I always have it!lol
>>93909916>Enchantress beatdown: winmore or what the deck wants to do?Pump Auras are not the way.If you want to do Enchantress beatdown in Pioneer, you're probably going ton want to lean into Auras as removal (Like Ossification) and cards like Katilda to back it up.
>>93909921TQ related
My friends told me that Thalia wasn't out of my league and that there was a chance I could have been with her. Now she is with a man I see as less than me in many ways. and their suggestion that I could have been worthy of her made me angry. It made me angry because I know I'd rather be dating Thalia than my current girlfriend. But it's too late and another man has won her heart. So being forced to confront that my relationship is basically bullshit and even if I leave it I will be stuck pining for Thalia as another man makes love with her. I think that's why I lashed out at my friends and why I don't talk to them anymore. It makes me angry to think about. I honestly want to fucking kill myself. Soemtimes I pinch myself at work really hard jsut trying to cope with what I feel inside. I am really fucking SICK of feeling this way and I fucking HATE Thalia for existing but if she didn't I never would have met girlfriend. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>93909988It does both. Removal, protection, and if the board is clear it gains you life. Really the pump effect is the last important part of the card.
>>93908318WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!
>>93910025I meant to imply, you don't want to be sticking your removal onto your threats as it lets them BTFOing you do double duty.
>>93908318>Who thought of this, this year's winner of the worst woldbuilder in the universe award?!Why did this make me laugh?
>>93910029Fair. My one argument is that enchantress is already a high-risk strategy since it hinges on sticking a below-rate creature. Doubling down on the "all in" aspects might be worth exploring.
>Option AMake five Enchantment Lands that each tap for their respective color.>Option BMake one enchantment land that is an unplayable pile of flaming shit.WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE!?
>>93909417>>93909571cat has always been gay but it gets beaten by trample effects aka the thing rakdos plays 8 copies of
>>93910197I'd add more Saga Lands but make them not format warping this time
My house burned down can I stay here for a while?
>>93910363>silver at this point in the seasonpathetic, i started a week ago and i'm diamond
>>93910197Option B, artifact lands were a mistake and enchantment lands should be smothered in the crib.
>>93910197cranial plating affinity was more fun than any currently viable modern deck, so A
>>93910363no, go back to vg you must>>93910197the unplyable shit. Artifact lands are powerfull and the only difference between artifacts and enchantments were supports and wotc are so out of ideas that they are making enchantment matter in the same way they did artifact matter.>>93909993>Now she is with a man I see as less than me in many ways.You are delusional. Your best bet is that Jin the goat is confirmed as dead dead otherwise she is will always crave for his big shrimp d. Your gf is not as hot as Thalia and will never be.
Is it ok if I bring my cat
if you rope im going to rape you
>>93910487why would it be okay to bring your cat?
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/duskmourn-house-of-horror-vision-design-handoff-part-1 Vision Design Handoff Document for Duskmourn.Manifest Dread used to be Manifest Evil and was looking at the top three, one becomes a 2/2, the rest go on the bottom of your library.A completely scrapped mechanic was Possess, whereupon a creature, upon death, would come back as an Aura enchanting another creature and giving it the abilities the creature has, sort of a Backup style approach, but the mechanic felt too narrow and ended up being turned into the Enduring Glimmer cycle.
>>93910623My home is gone dude it’s fucking gone over on vg. It just happened this morning and I don’t know what to do?
>>93910638>the actually interesting mechanic got scrapped for shiny pokemon shocking
>>93910771>actually interesting mechanicIt's just haunt + bestow.
>>93910868yeah which befits the set
>>93910638So the words evil and possess were too problematic to use as mechanics? What is this? 1994?
>>93910868>>93910907Sounds more like disturb without the extra cost. Missed opportunity to reimagine this cycle too.
>>93910638>Modern horror is a new trope space for Magic. We will look to reference pop culture movies and games to satisfy both fans of the genre and set ourselves apart from our other horror setting, Innistrad, which looks more to gothic horror literature.fuck this shitthey're saying it OUT LOUD
>>93908318Hahaha, had a good laugh. Classic format.
Pauper Cube update!https://thepaupercube.com/2024/09/16/blb-mh3-update/Green gets a massive needed boost, more mana fixing, all around looks great.
>>93911164That was never... Secret?
Another Ghostbusters Secret Lair, based on the animated series. I don't... Think these are screenshots, but rather just art that's meant to look like that?
>>93911022>So the words evil and possess were too problematic to use as mechanics?It doesn't say that anywhere, you're literally just making shit up to get mad about.
>>93911164>Modern horror set is based on modern horror mediaI'm shook
>>93911237I can see why they changed evil to dread, though, because dread evokes the fear more overtly, that the mechanic is meant to kind of play into the suspense (or the dread, dare I say) of it. Evil is just kind of bland to use there.
>>93911164MaRo has always been open about how they design sets based on tropes and pop culture references. Are you new?
>>93911237>It doesn't say that anywhereDoes it have to?
>>93911255We know where the idea of manifest evil came from, until they decided to change the theme to "fear of shit we can't even translate mechanically most of the time."
>>93911325Unless you're retarded or schizophrenic, yes, people do generally have proof for their claims.
>>93911491hear me out: the fear ofs should've been nightmare tribal whose effects pile up and are shared by all nightmares (like slivers) and have the majority of them be debuffs for the opponents and their creatures
>>93910434>Your gf is not as hot as Thalia and will never be.I know and the fact that I feel that way makes me want to FUCKING KILL MYSELF knowing my feelings for my girlfriend will never be as intense as they were for Thalia, I wanted to marry Thalia I would have done anything for her and everything feels like a whisper after that and now she is with another man and I can never ever speak to her again. I should have NEVER fucking talked to her again I should have NEVER fucking let this happen but if I hadn't I would have never had my girlfriend, it's all inextricably linked and I will be trapped in these feelings for ever and I HATE IT I FUCKING HATE IT I HATE IT I FUCKING HATE IT
>>93911552You're naive as fuck, anon.>>93911569That's a pretty good idea. But anything would've been better than what we got, might be one of the worst cycles in the history of the game.
>>93911255"Dread" definitely makes more sense than "evil" for a horror themed set, that was a good choice. Manifest evil also wouldn't really make much sense flavorwise when you're flipping over survivors and good guys, meanwhile dread still fits because there's suspense while it's face down.
Now that the dust has settled, thoughts on Bloomburrow?
>>93911632I loved duskmourne. can't wait for the next set spoilers to start
>>93911603Horror movies occasionally even did the "suspense but it's actually a good thing causing the suspense", so flipping a survivor or whatever still 'fits'.
>>93911632Probably one of the worst limited sets in a long time, drafting was so narrow it often felt like a coin flip.
>>93911022>>93911325>>93911602You sound undermedicated.
>>93911687You're too underage for this discussion anon, come back in ten years.
>>93911164We've had modern horror tropes sprinkled in Magic as early back as 1994.
>>93911687he has a point tho it's not hard to guess why literal demonic possession was replaced by faggy light animals
>>93911742The mechanical side of it was repurposed. Glimmers were likely in the set relatively early-on, flavour-wise.
>>93911632Horrible set. Not even the art can save it. A month after DSK bullshit no one will even remember cute animal shit.
>>93911742Yea, it's because possession was a bad mechanic. There are no image/PR problems with demonic possession. You're being dumb.
>>93911742To appease his demographic and its hordes of evangelical parents, no doubt.
>>93911768>>93911782>it's another 'wotc apologists denying reality' episode
>>93911779No niggers though.
>>93911808Damn! Why would there be Wotc apologists here, in the thread about a Wotc product, where wotc customers are talking about the latest wotc product they bought?
>>93911808You see yourself as wise and cynical, but you aren't actually doing the work, you're just mindlessly going through the motions.
>>93911782>There are no image/PR problems with demonic possessionLmao
>>93911824>>93911833forgot this was coprophile general now my bad
>>93911204>>93911250>>93911288>>93911735bootlickers and sycophantsit should not be accepted
>>93911824>>93911833Kys faggot
>>93911854You don't even know what these words mean.
>>93911878insert a funkopop into your anus and burn in a house fire
>>93911835I know right, the 80s are over, sometimes I can't believe it myself. >>93911852>>93911854Low-IQ hipster.
>>93911894>braindead wotc shill can't look at post timescolor me shocked
>>93911854>retard only just noticed how bad things really are>gets called retarded for taking this long to notice>assumes the people calling him out are actually saying things are good
>>93911854No I;m criticizing the fact they said this is new territory for Magic: the Gathering. Most zombies and horrors in MTG are modern incarnations of zombies, not haitian voodoo slaves, and the horrors even back in the day were definitely modern inspired from film. The fact they were able to do this without it being Radioshackmourn is telling about how much they've lost their way, and how uninspiring it is. The worst part is, the idea of plane that is effectively a haunted house, controlled by a IAM like figure isn't a bad idea, and could have been really good if the execution wasn't total shit.
>>93911939The new territory is the explicit modern horror tropes, come on.
>>93911894Good point there about the 80s being over. You should try watching some horror films from the past decade to see how watered down and family friendly the genre has become.
Anyone know a good way to get German language cards in the US? I really want pic rel but cardmarket needs a euro address.
>>93911939Manifest Dread is the best and most flavorful application of the Morph mechanic ever.
>>93911974It depends on what you mean, the actual horror tropes are mostly well-establishd in magic and they fit, it's all the t.v.s and the soda cans and the highschool culture references that bring it down.
Say it with me anons:PROWESS WAS A MISTAKE
>>93912012That's not exactly a high bar, to be fair. They didn't have clear flavour to them in their original depictions, nor did they in Tarkir.
>>93912024They sure have now.
>>93912022No.
>>93912022RDW would be ruining BO1 standard even without Swiftspear dude
>>93911835There aren't. You think soccer moms would look at this with nuance and go "actually she's not possessed by a demon, she's a naive character who felt alone and bullied so she fell victim to a manipulative demon that pretended to support her"? No, they see it's called Demonic Counsel, the art shows a girl looking like she's possessed, and they cry about satan again.
>>93912040Disguise is about as good on that front, then.
>>93912062Nah, disguise was gay.
>>93912057Damn they really are just printing demonic tutor again, huh?
>>93912003Yes. Find your local quality print shop.
>>93912098There’s not a high res scan online. Why do you think I’m asking
>>93912057But that's the exact problem? You posted one card the soccer mom can already bitch about, imagine it as a core part of the gameplay. You'd have the kids talking about possessing this and that or manifesting evil constantly while playing, and the soccer mom won't approve of that language in her kitchen.
>>93912110Literally nobody is complaining about it. That's why they're fine with printing it. Those soccer moms are from decades past, can you actually show a single post or conversation about someone crying over this card? If wotc actually worried about those people, they simply could've not printed a card named demonic counsel.
>>93912003The only way I've gotten international cards is through ebay. It costs a fortune to ship if they even ship to North America but that's how you get it.You can try and find a forwarding company that will give you their address for cardmarket to ship to and then they will ship everything to you, but you're going to be paying as much as if you just bought direct on ebay.
>>93912135They can't stop printing demons without disenfranchising the playerbase. They can, however, walk on eggshells while designing the sets, both mechanically and artistically. Remember that cunt complaining about too much gore in the Phyrexia sets? These people exist and businesses are prioritizing pandering to them. The S in ESG isn't just shoehorned brown skinned characters.
>>93912105?
>>93912198also
>>93908546>Hey you know what this game needs?>MORE tools that help you win after going first!
>>93912198How am I to print a proxy without a HQ scan>>93912206Gimme
i just want to play real magic anons with me and my opponent playing cards and casting spells... nowadays this game seems like yugioh, someone cast a mountain and the game is over for me or him...
>>93907119How did this survive the racism banwave?
eldrazi planeswalker idea (survivor of a suicide cult)
>>93912310>CMC
>>93912167>They can't stop printing demons without disenfranchising the playerbaseWhat kind of retard logic is this? There's plenty of sets that don't have demons at all, they could've just kept printing Bloomburrows if they wanted to pander to those types. Do you seriously think the playerbase will revolt if wotc didn't print a set featuring a demon?>Remember that cunt complaining about too much gore in the Phyrexia sets?They are clearly not "prioritizing" pandering to these people that much, given how the sets shipped despite those people still complaining.You seem to have made up a conclusion and then tried to twist all observations to support that conclusion. Businesses doing things not exactly to your liking isn't because of some ESG boogeyman, it's just how things go.
>>93912319i felt lazy, okay?
>>93912110IMO they should use obscure terminology like to mega therion and immanentize the eschaton so that parents have no idea what their children are talking about
>>93912319here, i fixed it just for you
>>93912322>plenty of sets >a setYour reading comprehension is abysmal.>ESG boogeymanBluepilled or on their payroll?
*Unzips my own rancid dogshit concept*
>We can't have demonic possession in MtG because ESG prioritizes Christian soccer-mom valuesThis is wild. Do you think it's a bad actor trying to tilt the conversation or do you think it's a natural evolution of the ESG mythos?
>>93912387Sup Maro
>>93912379No good.
>>93912405Now it's banned.
>>93912387>wotc shill gets btfo>starts talking to himselflol
>>93912376That doesn't mean "literally no body horror", just "we're not leaning TOO hard on the grotesque and the gory".
>>93912387Just watch any Blumhouse movie and stop trying to find excuses, anon. You don't even need to check out if he's an early lifer.
>>93912422Yes, and no one was talking about *literally* no demons and no possessions either.
>>93912444Demonic possession doesn't offend anyone. You're dumb. I think you're the same guy that kept calling everyone a shill up-thread.
>>93912376>Your reading comprehension is abysmal.If you think my reading comprehension is bad, then explain my mistake so we can discuss it, instead of just making a baseless claim.>Bluepilled or on their payroll?Again, this is just parroting memewords without any actual argument.>picWhat is that supposed to prove? Yes, wotc obviously wants to appeal to more people, all businesses do. They've clearly come to the conclusion that a card named "Demonic Counsel" and shows a girl more or less being possessed is fine and appeals to more people than it drives away. How the fuck does that support the idea that mechanics get axed because they're appealing to squeamish people? If you want better reading comprehension, you should realize that he's talking specifically about images creeping people out, not even mechanics.
>>93912361>exil
>>93912467it offends those who think "what about the people that worship evil and WANT to be possessed?"
>>93912476What?
>>93912490Anon I believe the word you were looking for was "exile"
>>93912490I honestly can't tell if you're a bot or a skitzo, but you've gotten 6 or 8 (you)s from me so I guess you win either way.
>>93912467I think you need to take your meds and leave your mother's basement a little bit.>>93912468Most players will still be good consoomers and keep buying their shit regardless of whether the mechanic says possess or not, it's the soccer mom who has to be convinced that buying cardboard with demon possession for her kids is okay. Reducing the instances of controversial subjects helps them achieve that goal without excluding said subjects altogether.
>>93912379Why instant?
>>93912022Prowess is fine. The problem is when you go overboard and bundle together prowess (or super prowess), haste, and more on a cheap, mono-color body.
>>93911974>Slasher>not explicit modern horror trope>imaginary friends>Not explicit modern horror trope>Technological horror>not explicit modern horror
>>93912361>mana costClose but no cigar.
>>93912519>Most players will still be good consoomers and keep buying their shit regardless of whether the mechanic says possess or notSo you're saying wotc could've simply not had cards related to demons at all and people would still buy cards, yes? Why would wotc keep printing cards related to demons then?>it's the soccer mom who has to be convinced that buying cardboard with demon possession for her kids is okayThey could've easily done that by not having a card with demonic possession, yet it's still in the set.>Reducing the instances of controversial subjects helps them achieve that goal without excluding said subjects altogether.That's a direct contradiction of what you said in the first sentence. Why would wotc need to maintain a small amount of controversial subjects? Are most players mindless consoomers who will purchase cardboard no matter what, or are they sticking around because of certain elements? Make up your mind, anon.
>>93912561>So you're saying [things I didn't say at all]They're really not sending their best.
>>93912579Elaborate what you're saying then, instead of trying to dodge the topic.
>>93912588Are you esl? Genuine question.
>>93912593I accept your concession.
>>93912599I'll take that as a yes.
>>93912519>the soccer mom who has to be convinced that buying cardboard with demon possession for her kids is okay.She's a grandma now. You're dumb.
>>93912593>still deflectingThat trick might work when you're 10, it's not very good after that.
>>93912617Is "she" in the room right now?
>>93912553crap its mana value isnt it?
>>93911782>>93912467>>93912617damn this shill is mad lmao
>>93912650That's right!
This thread is in shambles
Possession is thematically still on a single card in the set anyway.
>>93912677Unwilling Vessel is a nice euphemism.
>>93912677Christ this set is gay
>>93912677>art shows a MAN getting RAPED by an evil spiritSomeone alert WotC, the soccer moms won't be happy about this one.
>>93912703Men can't get raped
>>93912666In the future, if someone posts a dumb take and then says that everyone who disagrees is a shill, maybe just don't reply to that guy.
>>93911632>>93911677>>93911779>tribal set is shit limited set and underpowered constructed setwow who coulda guessed? ixalan 2.0
>>93912720>everyoneWhy are you talking about yourself as if you're multiple people?
>>93911632The modern look on the house doesn't bother me as much now but every single survivor is visual/design vomit/crap. If it wasn't for the survivors aesthetic (actually everything about the survivors suck, the clothes, the mechanics, the themes, etc). I didn't like all the technology as well,wouldn't mind if they had magical tvs (that didn't look like real world tvs), wouldn't mind the walkietalkies if they weren't 1 to 1 equal to real ones, etcLiked half of the monsters.The set theme looks like stitched together without much thought.This set could have been kino if made the themes and art direction right.
This year is a disaster for magic, so many shit sets, I guess they will further increase the cost per pack next year.
>>93912522Pretty much the only reason is Intuition and Gifts Ungiven putting this effect at instant speed.
>>93912738Maro is still looking for validation after that post failed
>>93912729nah
>>93912766innistrad wasn't tribal you butthole, it wasn't see a merfolk pick a merfolk
>>93912750You're dumb. Buy product.
>>93912797Why are you acting like Bloomburrow is that way?
>>93912701your shading is fine but I'd focus on general shapes to be more dynamic on organic parts like hair and more static with objects. for example how her hair piece is kinda wonky really pops out in my eyes
>>93912844because that's what all tribal sets are like
>>93912873Then why are you acting like Innistrad wasn't like that?
>>93912882because i remember at least one archetype that wasn't tribal, that weird flashback insects thing
>>93912882What if instead of everyone in Duskmourne dressing like it was the 80s they dressed in corsets and no shirts and they were all pretty?
>>93912593It's probably a yuropoor, they're completely out of touch with how religion works in America.
>>93912882Innastrad limited was sweet what the fuck are you on about.
>>93912912Sure, and most decks in Bloomburrow are not "see a mouse, pick a mouse". At common and uncommon, there's exactly 3 cards that mention "mouse" at all in their abilities, and two are the uncommon lands that work with multiple tribes. Most of the synergy is based on their respective mechanics, like valiant. Compare to Innistrad, where you have cards that straight up do nothing unless you have a specific tribe.>>93912939Yes, and so is Bloomburrow.
>>93912928It's a shirtless dude, I blame the woke lib ESG wotcucks.
>>93912797Innistrad was worse, totally tribal but with half as many tribes.
>>93912990Everybody likes to see shirtless dudes though
>>93912956ok it's a synergy focused creature set like ixalan where you stick to an archetype from pick one or lose
>>93906480Okay, what the fuck happened to the planeswalker cards and is Bloo,burrow out yet? Took a few years long break and the animal fable set looks fun
>>93913028How dare a limited environment focus on creatures and synergy between them. And you know as well as I do the pick one thing isn't true.
>>93913054idk i don't play limited
>>93913067kwab
>>93913067So you're either a troll jumping into a reply chain or you're trying to put out asinine claims about limited formats. People can like or dislike Bloomburrow (or Innistrad), I'm just here to point out blatantly false statements. Innistrad has more cards that specify tribe compared to Bloomburrow, even despite the latter having twice as many tribes of focus.
>>93913051>what the fuck happened to the planeswalker cardsAfter March of the Machine, they arbitrarily desparked a bunch of them for reasons that are as yet inadequately explained, in and out of universe. This came alongside them limiting themselves to only 1 Planeswalker card per set, for again unclear arbitrary reasons.
>>93913051>what the fuck happened to the planeswalker cardsIf you mean the lack of them, wotc decided to limit them to one per set outside of special cases. If you mean the furry ones, that's because they did "what if" alt arts for a bunch of characters showing what they'd look like on Bloomburrow.
Make Ninjas Great Again fags.
>mfw I see people talking shit about BLB limited
>>93913158I will play this with 0 ninjas maindeck and like 2 mutavaults
>>93913170BLB as a whole in every single aspect but art was shit bro, DWI
>>93913173>Card that will enable ninjutsu shenanigans>0 ninjas>2 manlands that could be ninjas>Still 0 ninjasWhy? Why are you like this?
>>93913158>3/4 during your turn>cant use a planeswalkers abilities when its a creature (to my knowledge)you literally cant use his planeswalker abilities right?also in case im wrong, how does this ability interact with damage... does he still lose loyality points from damage during your turn?
>>93912666>that pic>those Satanic tripsReally makes you think...
>>93913196>Why? Why are you like this?I feel like the card is good enough by itself (and the mutavault syngery) + I can't think of a single ninja I want to put in my deckto clarify: I'm not saying you can't build a ninja deck, I'm saying I won't be the one doing that
>>93913212Planeswalker abilities are just activated abilities, you can use them regardless of the type of permanent it is.
>>93913228Shut it down
>>93911632It was alright. Not fantastic but more good than bad.
>>93913212No to losing loyalty from damage.
>>93913228>>93913268Nosewater actually posts here, it's not a meme.
>>93913301False
>>93913333>quadsIt's real
>>93913333can't believe you script for digits maro you fucking jew
>>93911212Fuck. They got my ass. RGB was my fucking LIFE as a kid.
>Fuck. They got my ass. RGB was my fucking LIFE as a kid.
>>93913333>>93913355This is getting spooky
>>93913379>liking things is onionsHoly fuck the brainrot is real. Go touch grass kid.
>reach diamond>everyone starts playing monogreen and other grindpiles that lose to monoredand that's why they're still in diamond halfway through the season
Anything to a deck like this? Aven Interrupter and Splash Portal are a cute little synergy. Nevermind, Splash Portal is a sorcery. But I'll still post this so you experience my disappointment too.
>>93911632The art and flavor were good but limited sucked.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/duskmourn-house-of-horror-vision-design-handoff-part-1an interesting look at Duskmourn design. I like how the part about Possess shows how something that can look good on paper can show flaws once playtested.
Caveman set when
>>93911212God, ghostbusters is so lame
>>93913510Muraganda is a 5 on the Rabiah Scale so there is hope
>>93913523always been
>>93912361>mana costEven using the old wording is correct as its converted mana cost. Mana cost is the literal symbols not a number.
>>93913170People drafted Bloomburrow as a tribal set and suffered because of it.
>>93913595Skill issue.
>>93913447Ah, but Scrollshift is an instant.
>mtg arena general on /vg/ dies>/mtg/ suddenly becomes schizo centralreally makes u think I think
>>93913672Easy to explain
>>93913672/vg/ is one of the worst boards on the site. It's so fucking bad.
>>93913672Mount Gag is such a shitty place specially with the die hard resident schizo there that i can understand why threads usually die. Not a single Magic discussion is worth having there
>>93913694delet
I wanna build a standard deck around this. Do it for me.
>>93913547Tbh I’d rather have a more muted caveman plane without dinosaurs but I know that sells sets to whales like nothing else so I’m in the minority here
>>93913699containment board after all, imagine if all those people were loose on /v/ and other boards
>>93912601this is a pretty epic troll youve got going very cool!
>>93913547Caveman fantasy sound gud. After all>Dinosaurs>Other prehistoric animals>go on big hunt for stuff like mammoth or whatever>aside from winter climate, most people barely wear any clothes, perfect excuse for cheesecake and beefcake.>ongoing situation with plane is simple: Food, water, natural disasters, predators, or even mix of those.>weapons would just be clubs, spears, torches maybe bowsYet how will they fuck up simple thing beyond diverse?
>>93913749>esl still butthurtSad.
>>93913547You mean the goyim scale? Makes sense the noses would use an Arabic setting for a scale of OyVey/10I'm guessing the board wipe of the set would've been Wrath of Settlements
>about to buy a certain card>see a bunch of stores in washington state list 20+ copies of the same card at around the same timeit's about to be reprinted isn't it
>>93913872if its not a RL card and it costs more than 15$ you bet your ass WoTC is getting in on that reprint equity
>>93913872Just watch for the WPN premium stores and what they do. It's how anyone would know the 1/1 Ring was guaranteed to be found at a shop and not some hanger pack in a Walmart. Jotc and certain stores are all in a fucking conspiracy with each other to jerk the other off and make money.
>>93913804Tbf cavemen were highly mobile and had a lot of mixing going on. Genetic evidence showed they’d fuck like crazy then walk 100km and fuck like crazy again. Diversity in skin tone wouldn’t be that weird (Results may vary based on band society)
We need to bring back the color pie as originally designed. None of this "black can destroy enchantments now" bullshit.>Green ramps and blows up enchantments (not artifacts), payoff is a 4/4 vanilla that cost 6 mana>Black searches their library instead of drawing for turn>Red blows up anything colored blue anywhere, including players wearing blue clothes>Blue does everything>White has Swords to Plowshares
>>93908318Agreed. Duskmourne sucketh to hell. It killed Sailor Jupiter.
>>93913720Soul Cauldron deck that makes it so Sunspine must be blocked.
>>93913919Me understand that. As I feel genetic mix, not as big thing to worry about and explicitly wanted discussion beyond that. More so contemplating how they could drop the ball with a simple concept. Personally think they will try to be "extra" with it, mix plane with other themes where they feel prehistoric world not engaging enough by itself.
>>93914001Eh, if they don't block they are on a pretty fast clock.
>>93911632Coming back to mtg and standard after having not played since khans, and looking at all the sets currently in standard (why are there 3 blocks, this is retarded), this is the kind of power level a set in standard should have, I was hopeful and disappointed with duskmourne so far
>>93913390>liking gay things is ummm akshually baste! I swear! Lmao
>>93914020basedeveryone who complains about muh low power level needs to go back to wherever they came from
>>93914062Power level has nothing to do with itThe problem is Standard becoming a faster and faster format because Wizards thinks winning fast should be Red's only identity
>>93914077Didn't maro mention something about testing a new mechanic for red that was more than just "win fast"? When is that happening?
>>93914097There's, broadly, some sort of work being done to expand Red's colour pie because it's easily the narrowest of the five right now, but they've not given details on what or when.
what happened to /mtgag/? it was doing fine and now it's suddenly dead again?
>>93914130>it was doing fineit hasn't been doing fine since mid/late 2022, the general used to get multiple threads in a day, now it can last almost a week (if it doesn't get archived first)va
>>93914043>Ghostbusters>gay Wanna know how I know you're underaged? Get fucked kid.
>>93913941There have been too many sets where Mark said "Color breaks are cool and produce desirable cards, break it again", and we've lost the breakable identity.>There are things some colors can't do>Every color does everything, but mostly focuses on their own thing>Every color does everything, but some are more efficient than others(We are here)Every color does everything, but not in every set>Every color does everything, but some cards do it with extra upside>Every color does everything, and mana fixing is easy because missing a color in a WUBRGC pile is a feel bad>Every color does everything, and you are punished for running less than 6 colors>Color doesn't matter at all, since we aren't paying mana for the best spells in Pioneer Horizons 6
>>93914164You are already at the point of colorfixing being so easy that 5c domain piles are rampant in every format. A color being bad at something, by this point, functionally only matters for Commander where you are literally not allowed to run cards from other colors to fix a weakness. Until WotC prints Leyline of the Ghostly Prison it doesn't matter that red can't remove enchantments because it blows you up on the second turn. The real bitter pill is that the color pie doesn't matter at all with it being so easy to splash into a color that fixes any problem you might have.
>>93914274>5c domain piles are rampant in every format.whats your definition of "rampant" here? because the most popular 5c deck in pioneer doesn't even break the 4% barrier
I WANT AN 8ED-JOU FORMAT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>93914274>Leyline of the Ghostly PrisonStop I can only get so hard.
>>93914274>Leyline of the Ghostly PrisonLeyline of Sphere of Safety
>>93914308They're not the premier deck because the decks that want to be more versatile tend to be slower decks, which are bad when the premier decks will consistently kill you on turn 3. Decks fewer colors not because they can't afford to, but because they see literally no benefit from it.>Gruul Prowess doesn't need more colors because it ONLY needs what it has for a t3 kill. It can safely ignore basically anything you play because even if it had a counterspell available it wouldn't run it due to it not being another combo piece. However Domain still exists at 8.8% meta share.>I find it hard to believe Izzet Phoenix is aching that badly for Fatal Push. Hidden Strings is a deck that actually uses all 5 pips and guess what? It's bad because the best deck aims to blow you up on turn 3 before you can even can have access to 5 different pips at once.>Boros Energy in Modern doesn't need more colors. But guess what? Domain Zoo is sitting pretty.>Eldrazi in Legacy doesn't need anything but Green, but Beanstalk Control comfortably runs 4c sometimes with a random mountain for Leyline Binding.
>New Lightning Bolt>R>Instant>Deal 3 damage to any target>Retrace
>>93914458>RetraceBut what if they counter the second half!? Or the first!?!?!?Needs>This spell can't be countered.And also>A player dealt damage this way can't gain life for the rest of the game.To make sure we don't have any feel bads.
>>93914458Would unironically print in some UB product and watch eternal burn
>>93914448bro you could've just said>yeah, they're not rampant in pioneer, my badinstead of writing all of that, it's ok to make mistakes when generalizing sometimes, it happens to everybody
>>93914130It only came back during BLB, it's been on life support for years now thanks to nonstop schizoposting.
>>93914274Where’s the domain pile in pauper
Technically, since [CARDNAME] is a parameter that shifts according to which card it is on, such as when a create gains a self-referencing activated ability, and Hold for Ransom grants the ability TO THE CREATURE (Typically this effect is handled with the "any player may activate this ability" clause.)The activated ability of Hold for Ransom results in the CREATURE being sacrificed, and its controller drawing a card. At best, at worst it simply doesn't function.Importantly, an object can never self-reference an object that it isn't. [CARDNAME] only ever refers to the card itself, except when specifically coupled with the "A card named...." / "Cards named...." clause.
>>93914274Nobody tell this guy about Pauper.
>>93914515>>93914532Pauper is a fake format that WotC uses to justify pack filler.
>>93914164There has been only one set where color breaks were cool.
>>93914527What the fuck are you talking about, it grants a creature an activated ability that refers to the source of said ability, that's been done multiple times before.
>>93914467>not giving it split second and impulse draw
>>93914527Also, the activated ability of Hold for Ransom sacrifices the enchantment, so you're... Just wrong?
>>93914542Idk, pauper MTGO and in-person metas vary too wildly for me to think it’s a coordinated effort by wizards to sell packs
>>93914542Pauper is great.
>>93913694In retrospect Hamas did nothing wrong.
>>93914552Even then, only some of them were cool. Unfortunately, Planar Chaos block got used as justification for a LOT of bullshit.
>>93914589>the activated ability of Hold for Ransom sacrifices the enchantment, so you're... Just wrong?It does not.It grants an ability to a creature that says "[CARDNAME]'s owner sacrifices it."The CREATURE gains the ability, thus the ability refers to the creature.Moreover, you can't really grant an ability that references a different card's in such a specific way. It would need to be extremely specific for this ability to function, something like "The owner of the permanent that granted this ability sacrifices that permanent."There is a reason most Auras that do something like this simply use the "X: Destroy ~. Any player may activate this ability." templating.And that reason is because that templating functions, while the one on Random does not function.
FOR THE LOVE OF GODPRINT IT INTO PIONEERI BEG YOU
>>93914679No, it grants an ability that says "Hold for Ransom's controller sacrifices it". The creature gains an ability that refers to "this enchantment", ergo, Hold for Ransom. Again, Equipment does this all the time. Old auras granted abilities that referred to the auras, too.
>>93914693It's gonna get printed into a commander group hug deck
>>93914720>No, it grants an ability that says "Hold for Ransom's controller sacrifices it".>t. man who doesn't understand MTG syntaxGo be a retarded layman bloviator somewhere else.
>>93914760he said ergo which beats bloviator
>>93914720>Again, Equipment does this all the time>Literally two ever in history.>Only one of them has the broken templatingALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>93914760The [CARDNAME] on Hold For Ransom refers to Hold For Ransom. The enchanted creature has an ability that refers to a separate object, which is defined by being the source of the ability. The syntax works completely fine. Again, Blazing Torch also grants the equipped creature the ability to sacrifice Blazing Torch. You're just NOT acknowledging that this is a thing the game can do and has done for years. Other equipment exists that lets the creature have an activated ability that affects the equipment.
>>93914527>Technically, since [CARDNAME] is a parameter that shifts according to which card it is on, such as when a create gains a self-referencing activated ability, and Hold for Ransom grants the ability TO THE CREATURE (Typically this effect is handled with the "any player may activate this ability" clause.)You never finished this sentence.
>>93914843It finishes in the next line, my illiterate individual.
>>93913941How long for a The Song of Ice and Fire colab set? And how would WotC fuck that up?
>>93914801Yes.
>>93914801>creature walks away when ransom is paid as expected >this nigga thinks it should be sacrificed
>>93914856More things that need fixing.Thank you for sharing, WotC should get on that.
>>93914801In fact, a counter-argument. This card grants an ability to the creature to sacrifice said creature, and it does so by NOT using the name, because that's how ability-granting effects work.
>>93914849The next line is a new sentence. You can't even finish your sentences, no wonder you can't read a card.
>>93914870
>>93914855>How long for a The Song of Ice and Fire colab set?2026>And how would WotC fuck that up?Black Lannisters
>>93914097
>>93914914Good thing GRRM invented black Targaryens so they won't feel out of place.
>>93914981>the Council of Colors spent time in meetings brainstorming what spaces red could explore>Results>EXILE CARD FROM TOP OF LIBRARY, PLAY UNTIL END OF TURN>EVERYWHEREgee thanks guys, giving more cheap gas to burn sure helped red stretch its identity more wide
>>93914981What could red possibly do besides random effects like dice and Chaos Warp?
>>93915024They're talking about stuff in the future, anon.
>>93914693Just use this.
>>93915034You just know any new effects they add are going to be >Fucking retarded>Blatant color pie breaks
>>93915042>If you controlled that permanent>you controlthat's the wrong person, friendo
>>93915024
>>93914986Can't shit on my universe if I shit on it first
>BEEG MEETING to figure out red's new idenity>Okay what about first strike?>"We should add a mechanic that's impulse draw, but better!">Okay but First Strike is a great defensive ability that could help red lean more into value-oriented comba>"That's genius! We'll let you play the cards for two turns instead of one!">Yeah but, that will just make burn more effecient... but we already have First Strike in read, it's perfect for more midrange-y strate->"How about a card where when you burn something, you exile that many cards from the top of your librayr, and cna play them until end of turn!">Yeah but, like, we already have a keyword that solves the exact problem we're discussing, and what you just proposed doesn->"Genius! Write that down, the exile burn one!"Ahhh, I can see it now!
>>93915056Why do you want your opponent to draw a card?
I played a bunch more games with dragon company today, it's good enough to make the entry fee back in leagues but I need a better sideboard to actually trophy. Unlicensed hearse seems like the ideal card right now but I can't easily play it alongside silumgar's scorn and company. Are there any creative sideboard creatures to use against phoenix and sac?
>>93915095John Magic: so about first-Dave Magic (no relation): hey what if red had enchantment removal?Bob Magic (no relation): brilliant, ship it>
>>93915046>complain when things stay the same>complain when things changeThis is why nobody listens to you.
>>93915030Energy or something similar. Should be primarily in Red anyway and solves the problem of the color being narrow by frequently adding an extra layer of resource management.
>>93914130>>93914507>>>/vg/494827457We're back
>>93915173Why would you suggest I complain when things stay the same, when I do not?You wouldn't be a disingenuous liar, would you?
>>93915197If >>93915024 and >>93915095 aren't you, then I retract my statement.
>>93915212... sorry, what about hating impulse draw (nuMagic slop garbage effect) and advocating for First Strike (Literally existed since alpha) is somehow complaining about things staying the same?That is me advocating for them to stay the same.
>>93915178I didn't like energy much back in Kaladeshbut after playing with Amped Raptor I started liking it a lot more
>>93915153>Are there any creative sideboard creatures to use against phoenix and sac?I don't think so, you could try cage but it doesn't stop phoenix from delving
>>93915153this guy jus came out, maybe give him a go
>>93915223Impulse draw is over a decade old, people have nostalgia for sets younger than it. Red still gets plenty of first strike, so I don't know what you're ranting about on that.
>>93915257>Impulse draw is over a decade old,Wow I don't care.
>muh first strike :(Frenchvanillafags are the gayest fags holy shit
>>93913840take it easy maybe have a nap or something
>>93915301>frenchvanillaHey I know what youtuber you took that from
>>93915333Pretty sure that's older than your youtuber
>>93915257>Impulse draw is over a decade oldFuck you that's so dishonest
>>93915333Frenchvanilla is such an old term in mtg's history.
>>93915358May 2014 is already over ten years ago. How could it have been word more honestly?
>>93915389>How could it have been word more honestly?>"The rare appearances of impulse drawing over the pre-FIRE eras of magic are entirely not equatable to the massive trash heap slop shovelling of ceaseless impulse draw into every single set nowadays."
>>93915395And how exactly were we suppose to know that? We aren't mind readers. You should be more exact on what you want.
>>93915434>And how exactly were we suppose to know that?Good language comprehension and the ability to infer things.AKA having an IQ above 85.
>>93915301*doesn't tap serra angel**flies over your first strike blockers**cracks monster**sips*ahhh... those were the days...
>>93915301It's not French Vanilla if it's from before the ability was keyworded.Then it's just an ability :^)
>>93915470>where it all started...>the moment when spiders were forever condemned to be nothing more than shitty, over costed pack filler with reach...Breaks my fucking heart, man
>>93915455Such combat. Such defensive ability.
>>93915333Imagine being this new. I heard of the term in the late 90s
>>93915450>what about hating impulse draw (nuMagic slop garbage effect)What could be infered is that you're an old man that makes up less than a percent of all players so now your angry the wotc is now using mechanics that young adults remember as ancient rather than repeating your 30 year old nostalgic memories.
>>93915455>he can even block my first striker if I attack back!?I kneel, vanilla-sama
>>93915455>*mogs you're waifu*
>>93915395>act on impulse was M15>commune with lava and a bunch more cards from Tarkir>abbot of keral keep in Magic Origins>none in BFZ>stromkirk occultist and some others in Innistrad 2They pretty consistently had it even from the start. WAR and ELD were peak FIRE, and there's only a single impulse draw card between them. There's definitely been more of it recently, but it's honestly very recent. DMU had one, BRO had one, ONE had one, MOM had four. But then WOE had zero, LCI had one, and MKM had one.
>>93914914>Black LannistersIncest, morally gray guy and evil woman and mini-snoop dog, house manipulate others into helping them and keep shaming to get more control.nah, but I could see black starks.>>93914981Every thing wotc do looks retarded.>>93915046This.>>93915095How about trample burn?
>>93915542Anon, get your custom cards out of here.
>>93915545>They pretty consistently had it even from the start.>M15>the start>the start>>>>>M15
>>93915542>first strikewhat the fuck we've been robbed redbros
>>93915558I clearly meant the start of them using the mechanic, you ESL.
>>93915542was this thing really a gorillion bucks when it first came out?
Alright, I guess Chandra was actually the first one, in M14.
>>93915583It was. And it was beautiful.
>>93910657>>93910771>>93910907>>93911162Posses is a great example of a mechanic that looks good on paper, but that playtesting shows issues with.>The first problem was that the design space was kind of narrow. You wanted the creature and the Aura to feel connected. The easiest way to do that was for the creature to have an ability that would then be granted by the Aura, but there's only so many keywords, and not all of them make for the best Auras. We also experimented with ones that had a negative ability that you granted to your opponent's creatures.>One of the reasons we playtest mechanics is to see if the hype lives up to its reality. For example, a lot of evergreen creature keywords act as evasion or something that dissuades blocking. This meant the possess creatures rarely died, so mostly they were just french vanilla creatures in the set.Look at the examples in the document, a flier and a deathtoucher. A creature with flying will die infrequently because its harder to block.A deathtouch creature will die less often than average because players don't want to block it or attack into it.Most of the evergreen keywords are like that. So their solution was to drop the Aura bit and have them die into static enchantments.There were other ways to polish it, but the cycle we got was a valid one. I could see another set making them all have combat damage triggers, but that's pretty thin design space as well.
>>93915583It was. You had maybe one turn to kill it if he tapped out, and if you didn't he would untap, brainstorm with Jace, crack his fetchland, and counter anything that might kill her. You can no longer attack him or his Planeswalkers, so he builds up and kills you at his leisure.
>>93915545>act on impulse>commune with lavaXDDDDDD
>>93911255"maifest dread" is also a pre existing phrase
>>93915657Noise. Make more like picrel.
>>93910638>A completely scrapped mechanic was Possess, whereupon a creature, upon death, would come back as an Aura enchanting another creature and giving it the abilities the creature has>Directly stealing from /ccg/Pathetic.>Knowing WotC literally stole my mechanic, but their implementation was clunkier and worse.Hilarious.>Knowing my mechanic is good enough to not fit into FIRE era.Priceless.
>>93915752Your mechanic is just disturb.Possess is haunt.
>>93915752Your version of posses is closer to disturb.
>>93915752They already did that though.
>>93915752>anon accidentally makes FIRE design, while crying about FIRElmao, this shit writes itself
>>93915752What happened to CCG?
>>93915752Little wonder /ccg/ died
>>93915775>>93915778>>93915779>>93915793>DFCs
>>93915816FIRE killed all authentic interest in the game, which includes custom cards. Threads were just too slow to keep going.
>>93915816Collapsed under the weight of its own autism
>>93915816Wizards poached all the posters and forced them into slave labor in the Commander mines
>>93915886I think you accidentally a word, anon. You can see contents of the Bloomburrow kits here: https://wpn.wizards.com/en/products/bloomburrow
>>93915910Thanks, I found the duskmourn kits online and basically they say the same thing.My nearby shop is going to sell these for about 45 leaf dollars on pre release and wanted to know what I was getting.For some reason I thought i'd get a collector booster so maybe I'll get one while im there
>>93915775>>93915778Actually his version is triggerless haunt + auraless disturb.
>>93915958>>93915958>>93915958
>>93915935The Nightmare Bundle for Duskmourn that's coming out next month has two collector boosters and some other bonuses if you want to wait for it and pay a bit more.
>>93914164Nosewater has literally NEVER said that White breaking the color pie was ok. It's the only color he openly and vehemently despises doing anything remotely out of pie in his biased dogma.Blue creature exile removal?>Oy vey, very kosher!Black enchantment removal?>Meshugganuh, its alright!Green stealing everything from White?>They overlap!Red gets free +1+1 counters?>Totally a mensch!White getting treasure tokens or card draw?>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THATS A BREAK IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE, WHO'S THE NAZI WHO BROKE THE SACRED PIE??
