Administratum woes>Warhammer Day Preview Show 2024https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/fif0cb5z/the-warhammer-day-preview-show-2024/>Balance Dataslate:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/20/warhammer-40000-metawatch-downloading-the-new-balance-dataslate/>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>Tithes Animationshttps://gofile.io/d/GpvGgmhttps://gofile.io/d/3oPbxIhttps://gofile.io/d/T8ffnG>Previous thread:>>94096461>Thread question:If you're in the habit of homebrewing rules, why don't you share some of them with the class?
It's common to say that the most current edition blows, the rules aren't as good as the older ones, yada yada.Are there any rules you think had a HUGE improvement from Early/Midhammer to now?
>>94100228No
>>94100228I like vehicles now and I hate the shit out of spread.
Wtf do companies 6-10 do?
>>94100228Remove vehicles from the game
>>94100211How does he put on the helmet with the jood? Serious question.
>>94100253They provide support and replace casualties in the battle companies during campaign. It says so right there in the pic you posted. Can't you read?
>>9410025310 is a scout company.6-9 are reserves
>I could theoretically make an entire 2k point list consisting entirely of rogal dorns, leman russes, and a baneblade>I could, in theory, be the most annoying ass tonkatanknigger in my LGStempting...
>>94100253How are Primaris chapters/companies organized now that they have a bunch of new units that don't fit anywhere into previous codex standard companies?
>>94100268So basically 500 space marines just sit on their asses waiting to replace some scrub? Or companies are never actually deployed in numbers they're supposed to be deployed? Sounds incredibly stupid.
>>94100293What units do you think don't fit?
>>94100290Ask if someone wants to do a big tank battle and then go for it. Anyone who makes a spam meme list without warning are gay as fuck
>>941002536 to 9 provide reserves to companies 2 to 5. Ratios os squads and the composition of the reserve companies would also indicate Assault and Devastator marines suffer higher than average casualties. 10th company are the Scouts; they scout. Interestingly there is no explicit number of Scout squads, meaning there's no apparent limit on how mamy Scouts can be there.
>>94100294No, units from that are attached to provide extra support.
>>94100312They don't seem to have tactical/devastator/assault squad equivalents and instead have dozen or so small units that are 3 guys with specialized wargear, plus some larger 5-10 man units that have all one type of weapon. It's like you took a tactical squad, put all the bolter guys in one squad and all the non-bolter guys in their own squads with one weapon type per squad. Just interested to see if anything has been written or if GW just gave up on the military wargame autism
>>94100294The implication is that the Battle Companies have a high attrition rate during campaigns. Reserve Companies supposedly garrison and train while the Battle Companies are deployed, and the Scouts eventually grasuate into full Marines to replace those in the Reserve that went into a Battle Company.
>>94100290You will have an ugly ass army that will rival imperial agents
Do Redemptionist Sisters of Battle exist? If so, do they wear hats such as this one?
>>94100340All primaris marines can swap their gear out whenever they want depending on the mission profile just like before. Gw nickle and dining unit sizes is the only reason you see 3 and 6 man units now. They have the same overall organization broadly, it’s just the tools that are a bit different.
>>94100340Tactical, devastator, assault, aren't the names anymore.It's more generic designations that multiple units fit into.For example, reference the pic, a classic Tactical Squad and and Intercessor Squad are both "Battleline" units and use the upwards arrow.
>>94100365>tactical, assault and devastator squads still exist>but they aren't present in the game or mentioned at all in the loreHuh? My best guess is from space marine 2 where marines are deployed in groups of 3 and equipped with mini-drop pod care packages
>>94100382Funniest piece of lore>Tzeentch corrupts through whispered words and sowing dissent>Slaanesh corrupts through preying on your pride or general hedonism>Nurgle corrupts by providing a refuge for the disaffected, letting them become content in their suffering>Khorne blows up a big "corruption" bomb that makes everyone turn psycho and start killing each other
someone got me something called grimguards, can I just use these as generic imperial guard?
>>94100370Ah ok I see, are the companies made with the same structure or are they organized like anything in recent 40k editions of "Who gives a fuck just put some models on the table"
>>94100419Yeah but a better equivalent is death korps
>>94100424Just take you classic chapter structure picture and replace the "tactical" with "battleline," etc. The only substance difference is that the 10th company maintains its 100 edicated Vanguard marines (10 squads' worth) in addition to the regular scouts
>>94100416Wasn't there a Greater Daemon of Khorne that had an aura effect that increased everyone's attacks but also forced them to charge the nearest unit? Even Skarbrand still has a frenzy AoE in Total War 3
>>94100451Gotcha, thank you!
>>94100356the shittiest taste imaginable
>>94100451S a codex compliant chapter would have more than 1K black carapaced marines now? 100 dudes per compamy + each of their staffs.
Justify this.
>>94100499No>draws inferno pistol
>>94100499ADORKABLE
>>94100483That’s already the case, apothecaries, techmarines, and chaplains don’t count towards the cap. And you can have as many scouts as you want.
>>94100253fill in
When's venenum?
>>94100290>>I could theoretically make an entire 2k point list consisting entirely of rogal dorns, leman russesYou can't, these are special characters, and not even allowed in 40k
>>94100469Of course>>94100483Like the other fella said, officers, serfs, scout corps never counted
>>94100357redemptionists are fanatics officially unaffiliated to the church as far as I knowBut you can have very zealous sob and they can have very hot hats, I'd say
>>94100525>And you can have as many scouts as you want.But they don't have the black carapace and thus poqer armor, that's the difference. There's effectively 100 new marines per company, shooting up their number to closer to 1100 at full capacity, depending on how many staff members they're allowed to have per company (it's questionable canon but Blood Ravens were noted as having higher than average number of Librarians, so the number likely isn't fixed) plus the officers, which should number at 30 now that Lieutenants are a thing.
i have finally collected 1000 points and I am in the middle of finishing off the paintjobs for them.soon I will break the nogaems curse.
>>94100553Yeah, but before you only had 900 marines + officers and staff at full capacity, with a soft cap at 1K. Now the minimum for full capacity is 1K, plus those staff and officers.
>>94100544My bad! I'm from the future of 14th edition and to sell more primarch models you can have several of them in the same army!
>>94100329>there's no apparent limit on how mamy Scouts can be there.The amount of available geneseed helps moderate the number of scouts. There will rarely be a huge surfeit of the stuff beyond what's necessary for replacement.
>>94100499
>>94100253their best!
>>94098746Oops, forgot about this. Here you go: https://imgur.com/a/khwWD6q
>>94100616Not op but I will be using that as an excuse to have an inordinately large 10th company on my dudes.
>>94100616Typically the administratum will take excess geneseed, however a particularly ballsy chapter could keep some serfs around for geneseed cloning to have plenty on hand.
>>94100499For some reason I'm thinking of an enemy I fought in a dark souls game
>>94100685IIRC the Exorcists are currently running three scout companies because they keep sticking daemons in their scouts.
>>94100370>Reading the space book.Naw.
>>94100329>Interestingly there is no explicit number of Scout squads, meaning there's no apparent limit on how mamy Scouts can be there.the black templars abuse this loophole in the codex to bump their numbers considerably, but being on a crusade or in preparation for one seems to be a key ingredient for the loophole, so there's probably a clause underlining how the imperium might see a chapter amassing neophytes as a redflag.
>>94100481Yeah that's what it takes to own astra Mili cum
>>94100772The BT’s get away with it be not operating all in the same region, most chapters are tied to a given area so the inquisition might notice if they start deploying too many dudes to a given fight. Because the BT’s are spread into so many chapter fleets and usually fuck off as soon as they finish murderfucking the target of the day they can get away with it.But yeah there’s 0 limit on recruitment while on a non-penitent crusade so that the chapter doesn’t potentially die out on a long campaign if they can’t go back to their usual recruiting grounds.
>>94100329Squads from 6 to 9 are also assigned to battle companies or ad hoc forces on an as-needed basis. If you have a mission which requires a lot of firepower, you send the 2nd but request two additional squads from the 8th. If you have to plug the gap somewhere with a half-company, the 6th or 9th will provide the leadership and the main force, other companies will supplement the specialists.
>>94100772Some slack is permitted under the codex if the chapter is on a crusade. Because the templars are always crusading they are never fully constrained by adherence to the codex. And because they are spread out it's practically impossible to get a perfect overview of how many of them there are in the galaxy at any given time.
>>94100293>How are Primaris chapters/companies organized nowSame as ever but there's slightly more marines than before.
>>94100322>Anyone who makes a spam meme list without warning are gay as fuckdaily reminder that an all MEQ list is just as "skew" as 120 gaunts or all tanks. it's just such a common skew list it warps the entire meta around it such that every single list is built to deal with masses of 2W 3+ save
>>94100661Thanks.
>>94100795I implore you to play against vehicles in tenth editionYou will enjoy it i promise :^)
>>94100772It's not a loophole, they explicitly disregard the codex and do not organize themselves according to its dictates. And like >>94100796, they're never all in one place at one time so a crusade of twenty or thirty Battle Brothers here, another hundred or so there, each one with neophyte squires, starts to add up. They're probably already at legion strength in terms of raw headcount, but by keeping their forces dispersed and on the move they can't be held accountable. And who would hold them to account, anyway? It's a waste of political capital for an Inquisitor to pick a fight with a space marine chapter, and there are a lot of people who owe debts to the BTs already.
>>94100293how are there muzzle flashes before the projectile has left the barrel
>Harlequins are an elite, specialized troupe that only congregates in small numbers>Despite this, they get added in as a separate army anyways>Has a unique playstyle about close-range shooting, movement tricks and being able to hold their own in melee Ok sure, it’s cool but also bullshit, the lore says they wouldn’t appear in such large numbers normally>Ffw a couple editions >Harlequins are a consistently high win rate army with low pick rates and low sales>Impossible to balance around compared to regular Aeldari >GW decided to cut their losses >Harlequins get souped and rolled into Aeldari for 10th edition Makes sense, there was low demand anyways >Ffw a couple months >No one cares>When you bring this up, they just tell you to wait for the codex>Deathwatch is an elite, specialized strike force that deploys in small numbers >Deathwatch gets added in as a space marine chapter anyways>Doesn’t have a unique playstyle, just marines but with weird anti-xenos weaponsOk sure, that’s cool but also bullshit, the lore says they wouldn’t field that many at once>Ffw a couple editions >Death watch is a consistently low win rate army with low pick rates>Impossible to balance when compared to regular space marines>Gw decides to cut their losses >Primaris kill teams get sent to legends and the army is rolled into imperial agents Makes sense, there was low demand anyways >Ffw a couple months >The entire community throws their shit >Apparently people were so upset about the souping that they sent GW death threats >GW has to come out and say “we hear you, please don’t kill us haha, we’ll add deathwatch back”I genuinely hate space marine players. Some of the most entitled, self-centered brats ever who only care about their faction.
Why can't cawl or the chaos gods just make more primarchs
>>94100831That's true, and it's why every god fearing list should have a mix of infantry and vehicles/monsters. If your game allows you to spam one hyper efficient unit then it is failed
>>94100293What's that funky symbol on the Primars dude's belt armor flap thing?
>>94100771>no glow effect on the plasmaSalamanderanon...
>>94100864literally stay mad butt guy
>>94100864turns out when you have more players you get more response to negative changessorry you picked a contrarian army with no playerbase :)
>>94100885Ok ignore the guy in pic rel and respond to the fucking point, you fucking 9 year old
>>94100841The concrete number for BT is around 5000-6000 marines as per the 4th edition codex.And the Psychic Awakening: Faith and Fury reinforces this by saying the BT are not codex compliant and don't use the codex.Nowadays it could very well be more, like 7000-8000 marines.If they haven't already broken the 10k mark.
>>94100881I fear source lighting all the way down in my balls anon. Nothing will get me to do it until I have an airbrush.
>>94100848>how are there muzzle flashes before the projectile has left the barrelThe projectile already left.Both marines missed their shots.
>>94100864>Ok sure, it’s cool but also bullshit, the lore says they wouldn’t appear in such large numbers normallyyou're retarded. harlequins have had their own codex since 3rd edition, and even in 2nd edition there were specifically rules for running an all-harlequin army. Who says they don't appear in """""such large numbers""""? Nigger even a 2k point list for 40k is like 50 dudes max. Eldar are a "dying race" in comparison to their 60,000,000 year old galactic hegemony, there's still enough fucking elves around for there to be fifty dudes. Read a fucking codex and stop getting your information from retarded memes like "dude harlequins are eldar custodes". All harlequin armies have existed longer than you've been fucking alive you stupid fake grog
>>94100881my man sallyanon lives in a different dimension than our own. completely detached from standards of painting mere mortals adhere to
>>94100881Why would they glow in the first place?
>>94100872>If your game allows you to spam one hyper efficient unit then it is failedwelll, 40k is definitely a failure considering 100 marine body black templar crusader spam is not just viable but top tier
>>94100896Dude, leagues of Votann launched with nearly twice as many models as harlequins. GW sabotaged us by giving us no models, and as a result, every “how to get into 9th edition 40K” guide told new players to not buy harlequins since you could barely build an army with them
>>94100927because real men overcharge every shot
>>94100293Same as before but the 10th company has 10 Vanguards in addition to Scouts and there are 2 Lieutenants in each company now too.
>>94100914Should bolter even have muzzle flash? It's using gyrojet ammo, right?
>>94100864>bro marinefags are so mean, they actually care about their faction and want to keep it playable>why don't marinefags just take it up the ass like us xenofags whenever GW tries to fuck them over, bro? so rude and entitled bro...You really are dumb motherfucker, you know that?
>>94100940because clown elves don't deserve it and squats were violently requested for literal decades
>>94100936Yeah that shit is cringe
>>94100864>Ok sure, it’s cool but also bullshit, the lore says they wouldn’t appear in such large numbers normallyA couple dozen at most? Doesn't seem that far fetched to me. Unless you're playing ine of the horde armies there's never many models on the table even in large games, and even in those armies it's unlikely to go beyond 100 dudes.
>>94100918Yes, I was inaccurate, but I was trying to stretch the lore to fit my death watch comparison. What the lore says is that it’s rare for a masque to have more than a couple dozen members. Doesn’t mean they can’t, but still
>>94100868>Why can't cawlHe tried, that's what Alpha Primus is, and he is a failure regarding it. It isn't that subtle even.>or the chaos gods just make more primarchsBecause they can't only the Emperor knows how.>but muh warp shit on molechNulore, ignore.
>>94100841>>94100901It’s worth noting that the BT attrition rate is downright atrocious. They’ve lost multiple entire crusade fleets at different times and something like 2/3rds of their neophytes die before becoming initiates. Which probably makes it still harder to pin down how many marines they have. A lot of them executed by their mentors for failing in some way or another. They only keep up by recruiting from every single planet they visit. Abandoned BT mini fortresses are all over the damn place. Even HELBRECHT doesn’t know how many there are.
>>94100947No dude, we did complain, but apparently marine fans sent fucking death threats and the wider 40K community decided that THIS was the time to circle the wagons and demand change.
>>94100661What ate these?
>>94100973>we did complainall five of you
>>94100923Naw I’m just a coward.>>94100942This is true. Never not be overcharging.
>>94100878Some chapters incorporate an 8 pointed star into their design. I think it's a hoodover from when lots of imperial shit was implied to be unknowingly chaotic
>>94100947>marinefags>care about their factionlmao
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>>94100986uh oh clown elf melty
>>94100976Considering Volkus is an empire-tau frontline, probably the kroot.
>>94100959See >>94100966>>94100977>all five of youThat’s my point, there weren’t many death watch players but the 40K community collectively decided to circle the wagons for the special mahreens
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>>94101007hundreds of multiples of deathwatch players over clown-elvescope and seethe all you want, your literal meme faction should've never been standalone :)
>>94100848Barrels are not airtight, allowing some of the gas to move around the projectile, and a large muzzle device can allow burning gasses to expand around the projectile before it exits the very end.
>>94101019It’s been standalone since third edition
>>94101010Their battle cry, “For Russ and the Allfather!” echoes their dedication to their Primarch and the Emperor. The Space Wolves are truly a force to be reckoned with in the galaxy of Warhammer 40,00012.Are you a fan of their lore or looking to start an army of Space Wolves?1warhammer40k.fandom.com2wh40k.lexicanum.com3wargamer.com4wahapedia.ru5warhammeruniverse.com3/3
>>94101007>the 40K community collectively decided to circle the wagons for the special mahreensit's more about circling the wagon to demand Imperial Agents not be a fucking joke. It's clear GW really wanted to sell it as a $60 tax to bring a Callidus when a lot of people expected and demanded more out of it.
>>94100946>Should bolter even have muzzle flash?Yes.Bolters aren't caseless ammo and haven't been for like 30+ years at this point.In-universe fanon reason? So the bolters are lethal at both close and long range.With the conventional charge in the casing guaranteeing armor penetration and killing power at close range. While the rocket engine enables the bolter to be precise and lethal at very long ranges without any decrease in lethality like with conventional projectiles that lose more energy for longer they fly through the air.Out of universe reason?Because GW realized that having big guns throwing out lot of brass casings in art pieces looks cool as fuck.
>>94101025and? Doesn't change that clown elves don't matter and neither does your crying
>>94100966>What the lore says is that it’s rare for a masque to have more than a couple dozen members.And that couple dozen members is what is being deployed, I don't see the issue here.
>>94100878the iron haloit's a honorific, on top of being a piece of protective equipment often given to people deserving said honorific it's usually red
>>94100946>Should bolter even have muzzle flash?Yes.>It's using gyrojet ammo, right?No, they use two-stage self-propelled projectiles.
What lists are you planning to bring to your next game, anons?
>>94100973>we complainedYou and the 5 other harliefags.You are a dumb motherfucker that is surprised that a faction with a larger player population makes lot more noise than the measly minority faction that is a minor subfaction within an already niche faction.It's like being part of some small activist group that has only 10 members and then being surprised that the local town goverment doesn't listen to you, but instead listen to the other group that has 10 000 members.
>>94100253The Iron Hands do it funnily. Their companies are properly categorized into veteran, battle, reserve, and scout like any other codex-compliant chapter's. However, every company recruits its own aspirants for the scout company. They only use the codex's labels because it looks proper to outsiders. In actuality there is no escalator system where fresh graduates from the scout company cut their teeth in the reserve companies before advancing to the battle companies. If a scout was recruited by the veteran company, they will immediately be inducted into the veteran company. Reserve companies are not used for advanced training, they frequently fight their own battles.What all this means in practice is that there are nine battle companies and a tenth scout company. There is no middle ground between being a trainee and a full battle-brother. Once you're out of the scout company it's sink or swim.
>>94101038My point is that, for example, T’au vs. Tyranids or Orks vs. Mechanicum is something that probably happens often, because there’s so many people in those respective factions, they probably fight at scale so often. But harlequins are comparatively rare. The average marine probably fights tyranids hundreds of times over their life. They probably would fight harlequins once.Again, I’m not even sure we’re arguing. I was just stretching the lore in a funny way to make a comparison between them and death watch
I like orks but hate building/painting hordes and vehicleswhat's the lowest model count for a 2k army you could pull off with orks that isn't just trukks and superheavy spam
>>94101038There's not a max number of clowns in a masque to begin with, they're literal theater troupes and quasi religious organizations. It's like asking "how many people are in a dark eldar wych cult", however many you fucking want
Which Dreadnought should I buy for my Space Marines?
>>94101070>But harlequins are comparatively rare. The average marine probably fights tyranids hundreds of times over their life. They probably would fight harlequins once.and how many times do you think space marines fight fucking Grey Knights? or the Shadowkeeper Custodes whose job is literally guarding secret vaults on Terra? How many times do you think space marines fight the Blood Angels, of which there's only a few hundred left following the Devastation of Bhaal?how many times do you think marines fight three bloodthirsters plus Shalaxi and Be'lakor?
>>94101103One of each. Brutalis is the coolest tho.
>>94101103This one.
>>94101082there's a clown car joke to be made in there
>>94101103Brutalis.
>>94100986>>marinefags>>care about their faction>l>m>a>omarinefags care so much about their "factions" that they unironically think blue marines and red marines and green marines and slightly different shade of green marines all deserve to be completely unique factions with completely unique rules instead of a fucking paint scheme. >my guys wear green and use lots of flamers, where's the salamanders codex???okay, paint them green and equip them with flamers. you don't need a faction to represent trends in wargear loadout.
>>94101116>the Blood Angels, of which there's only a few hundred leftFix'd. You're welcome.
>>94101163>marinefags care so much about their "factions" that they unironically think blue marines and red marines and green marines and slightly different shade of green marines all deserve to be completely unique factions with completely unique rulesYes, they do. And they should be.And no amount of xenofag seething is not going to change that.>>my guys wear green and use lots of flamers, where's the salamanders codex???>okay, paint them green and equip them with flamers. No enough, give me the special flamer and melta rules and relics and psychic powers or fuck off.Simple as.
Can chaos gods make new planets? Or fill up the void of space?
>>94101138>there's a clown car joke to be made in thereHow come there's no rule letting double the number of harlequins fit in transportsI know it'd probably be busted but I don't care, it's funny.
>>94101152>make all ranged dread>give it storm bolters>make a close combat dread>give it heavy boltersIs everything alright with GW designers?
>>94101167didn't devastation happen AFTER they'd already gotten their primaris reinforcements? that's not a fix. the BA also only recruit from that one irradiated shithole to begin with and the population of baal was only 100,000 mutants BEFORE the nids hit it, now they're lucky to have 10,000 people left on the whole planet (yes I know bri'ish mafffs means ignore GW numbers but still)
>>94100220Any yellow enjoyers here? Whats the best recipe’s for yellow? I have an airbrush and looking to get started with imperial fists
>>94101205
>>94101076You could run a Bully Boyz detachment and have an army centered around Nobz and Meganobz
>>94101195You could have it work like a Necron Night Scythe where you just say "One infantry UNIT can fit in a clown transport" so you could put a min sized or max sized squad in one no problem
>>94101205base with pinkzenithal white or bone from abovecontrast yellow over all of that
>>94101188>No enough, give me the special flamer and melta rules and relics and psychic powers or fuck off.sorry, you're a paint scheme, please enjoy your one themed detachment anyone can take and be quiet while the adults are speaking. If you're unsatisfied there's an entire game just for people like you called 30k
>>94101224I really wanna see what this would look like without the pink
>>94101224What pink is that? Vallejo or army painter?
>>94101204>didn't devastation happen AFTERNo. How the hell did you even get that idea? It's so completely wrong and easily debunked by any primary source addressing the matter that I imagine it's genuinely really difficult to develop that misunderstanding while in the process of learning anything at all about the Devastation of Baal or the introduction of Primaris into the Blood Angels. Are you just dumb?
I wish chaos space marines got the same gibs that loyalists have...
>>94101205if you have an airbrush you've already made it a lot easier on yourself
>>94101235no clue>>94101234much flatter
Can I ask kind folk in here if there's a scan of the CSM codex for 10th available? I'd be eternally grateful
>>94101227>sorry, you're a paint schemeThat's why 10th edition is a dogshit edition and I don't support it.
>>94101256CSM doesn't need a million goddamn Aspect Marines, the fact they still have Chosen/Legionaries, Havocs, and Raptors is a good thing
>>94101269you were just a paint scheme in every single edition that 40k was good besides 10th, too.
>>94101276Nope, 8th was based and it's how it should be.Give me my rules or fuck off. No deal otherwise.
>>94101256Legionaries being generalists is cooler and fits the fluff better. The only good thing about Primaris is that CSM are more distinct compared to their shitty cousins.
>>94101279>Give me my rules or fuck ofyou are welcome to fuck off to /hhg/.
>>94101188Chill homie. We had our time in the sun and it will come again. In the meantime just build cool dudes and keep banging your head against that wall trying to find a way to make themed lists work without hand holding rules. S’what I’ve been doing. It was fun last edition and if we’re lucky customization may return, just gotta be patient and let the other factions get their stuff for a bit.
Finished my first squad of AL boys Gonna pick up some of the army painter medium for the next batch to see if I can get the speed paints more consistent How is that citadel texture paint for snow? I want to experiment with different materials for snow bases
>>94101205I use Averland Sunset followed by Yriel yellow. And I use flash gitz yellow for edge highlights if I ever feel bothered to do it which is rare.But I'm also dogshit at painting so take my advice with a grain of saltI'm also garbage at painting so
Which Xeno would you mating press
>>94101316These look pretty decent to me, don't be so hard on yourself. Unless this is the "I say I'm bad so people will call me good" bait in which case fuck off
When do we get a datasheet for the new tankbustas? 6 models instead of 5 with actual options this time instead of a locked load out
What is the ork equivalent to a platoon? A mob could be considered a platoon since it could have around 30 guys, and kill team shows that a smaller mob of like 10 orks is used as a squad. But also Orks have nothing inbetween a Boy and a Nob. They also have nothing between a Nob and a warboss. Would a platoon be led by a Nob of multiple smaller squads with tough boys acting as his enforcers?I get it's super fluid and not written down anywhere, but I wonder what you guys think. I'm working on a chain of command conversion to 40k and I'm between making an ork platoon either by some sort of bigger nob leading 2x20 ork mobs, or a nob leading 3x10 ork "gangs" or some such
>game has dice rolling>try to make it competitiveWhat were they thinking?
>>94101346MoneyAnd it worked too
>>94101212Nice that sounds more my speedare they alright on the tabletop? I don't care about muh meta or anything but I don't want something that's gonna struggle just to keep up
>>94101346wait until you learn about poker
>>94101346wait till you learn how popular mahjong is
>>94101346Hey we may be degenerate gamblers but at least we pay our money up front.
>>94101346Why is there not a Warhammer 40k Tabletop anime with intense dice rolling
>>94101368what army would akagi play?
>>94101384SoB
>>94101384Eldar.
>>94101374>Kaiji anime where he plays World Eaters and needs Angron to revive or he'll get his fingers cut offfund itbetter than anything on WH+
>>94101341If the 3 squads are close together they have one Nob - the biggest ork.When they break up into squads of 10 each of the biggest orks gets to be the nob for them, simple.If you are 1% big you get to be the boss, until you meet some bigger ork then you are a nob. Don't overthink it, there's always the biggest ork and he's in charge
>>94101316Those colors are too close together to create much contrast. Better to start yellow from shades of red, orange, or brown. The reason >>94101224 creates more contrast is because Magenta+Yellow = Red/Red+Yellow= Orange.
Painted these guys, I'm happy with how the sword turned out, first time trying heat effect
>>94101290>We had our time in the sun and it will come again.Nah, fuck that attitude.GW is a retarded company and only thing it understands is harsh and loud noise.Rolling over and just taking the punches is what has gotten us to this point.And seeing how 10th edition is I have zero hopes or expectations for 11th edition at all. It's going to be worse most likely.
Does anyone have an image of the sisters of battle codex with a demonstration of how the factions look?I kinda need some inspiration for my pauldrons
>>94101426The stripes on the cloth are really awkward and don't really make any sense with how the fabric folds
>>94100897U still a daft cunt bitch
>>94101455Yeah you sre right, but I'm too stupid to figure out how they should look like on folded cloth so I mostly painted them straight
How common are renegade space marines actually? It seems like everything is red corsairs which I don't consider actually renegade at all and ocdonutsteels
Thoughts on the Raven Guard?
>>94101496Awesome, got lots of bits thanks to HH
>>94101494Renegades all fall to Chaos eventually.
>>94101494It just fucking happens sometimes. Often they're still loyalist they just don't like the imperium's beuraucratic bullshit. I don't think many renegades go full chaos/evil pirate gangs nowadays
>>94101519That's what it seems like, it's weird that they even bother making the distinction for something that doesn't seem to really exist
>>94101527I'm still unclear on when exactly Huron fell to Chaos. Like I know it was before he got melted But at what point during the war did he hop on board with chaos.Every thing I can find just seems to skip over that.
Isn't this just a finished knight army? Like it's pretty much everything you can field, two boxes of this and some magnets and I think you're set for life lmao
>>94101496Dorks.
>>94101494Not very, especially non-chaos kek renegades. Granted there are a couple loyalists on the borderline but are delusional about it.
Cawl only exists to be the Malcador to Emperor Gulliman.
>>94101494>>94101519Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors, and Night Lords I'd all consider renegade and they aren't chaosfags
>>94101527The distinction is basically for the lore, renegades are traitor marines who aren’t connected to the traitor legions is what it really is. Whether they fell and got corrupted, were forcibly turned, or were from the ill fated crusade into the eye of terror that turned almost every chapter that went into chaos marines. >>94101557That’s probably on purpose because FW likes vagueries when it comes to lore a lot of the time. >>94101523Canonically most if not all renegades eventually go full chaos. Just a matter of time before someone slips up and it gets screwy and daemons start whispering in your Librarian/Chapter Master’s head.
Warhammer died when the Imperial Guard and its' stormtroopers were renamed to kosher crap.
>>94101577Those three are all still traitor legions, anon is asking the distinction of loyalists going rogue, those three would most certainly not count for that question because they all have a massive amount of warbands here and there that both have a hatred in the imperium and a good amount of astartes within them that do make use of chaos.
CPIJM2/3
>>94101138>>94101195I don't knowbut I made this
>>94101584I dunno anon, calling them stormtroopers and having one of the highest ranking members being called Vader was a bit on the nose
>>94101577well you're huffing fanfic, they're all chaos slaves like the rest and adorn their armor with chaos icons and directly work with chaos daemons
>>941015941 more for roofless gayming
>>94101594>>94101614wrong board fuccboi
>>94101496They need to lean more into the Edgar Allan Poe references or cut them out entirely.I want to see some Fall of the House of Usher, Cask of amontillado, and Masque of the Red Death references in their lore.And they should all have 1800s southern/Baltimore accents.
>>94101595Heh.
>>94101595>the clown car
>>94101494How cannon are xeno diplomatic renegade marines
>>94101562>two boxes of this and some magnets and I think you're set for life lmaothe previous chainbreaker lance box was the same, it was actually better since it had warglaives as well; pretty sure this box exists to clear their warehouses full of unsold helverins
So what are Eldar Exodites, as a potential faction, even about?I like the Eldar and would like to make a patrol on the side to play something other than marines, but whenever I talk about them I see someone here bringing up the exodites and how they wish they'd get a codex or at least a kill team and I just now realized that I don't know if they have anything unique about them?>craftworlders are THE eldar with everything we know them for>dark eldar are the OTHER eldar that are pretty much spiky equivalents of the above>harlequins are the small elite version with the clown motif >corsairs are space pirate elves>exodites are... elves living on a planet?Do they have any special units in the fluff or something?
>>94101656they ride dinosaursthey deserve nothing
>>94101656Dinosaurs and thats it
>>94101656They're sci-fi wood elves, anon. They ride cool dinosaurs and shit.
>>94101659>>94101663Don't Kroot do that now? Nevermind, everyone does Eldar things now, especially the Primaris.
>>94100771Sallyanon is king
How hard would the Alpha legion effect be for a beginner to do? Like the half alpha legion half ultra marine efftect
>>94101656Really they should be a single allied unit and not much else, just like Corsairs or Ynnari
>>94101632that sounds cool, ergo, it's not happening, especially since any american accents are banned from existing. but if they were allowed, I think it would be cool if they doubled down on the southern gothic art style.
>>94100251What a horrible fucking take. How has turning the vehicle into character models with HP bars an improvement? The don't even behave like vehicles now.
>>94101670Now? Kroot always did that while Exodites didnt even exist beyond text.
>>94101670exodites never had major presenceyou could kitbash them in 2e and then they only appeared in a game after that with epic and died afterwards>>94101678not very, you just use masking putty like bluetac and put it over half the model after painting it
>>94101103All of them
>>94101683>american accents are banned from existingExcept for John Grammaticus and his weird attempt at a New York accent
>>94101656>So what are Eldar Exodites, as a potential faction, even about?why don't you read the codex they had multiple playable units in
>>94101656>even about?space elf neo-primitivist dinotopiait's to have miniatures of alien dinosaurs with lasers strapped onto them
>>94101300They look cool
Are there any canonical rapist space marine chapters or guard regiments? Or is that too grim and dark for the setting?
>>94101686Dude.... Changing mechanics to behave more like video games and less realism is a GOOD thing!!!!!
>primemyass
>>94101725not answering a question tourists like (you) could easily find the answer of on google
>>94101656Hippy amish elves are so lame they make dinosaurs uncool.
>>94101645I'm doubt this counts but the Marines Vigilant became utterly unwilling to fight, due to some strange xenos manipulation that is assumed brainwashing but that's just the theory. The Crimson Fists purged them to a man and they never fought back to defend themselves once.
>>94101703slop that had to be kitbashed because it was never meant to exist
>>94101746The 2e eldar codex featuring them was literally written by rick priestley himself you dumb fake grog
>>94101757and? If they were something anybody but contrarian faggots like (you) wanted they would've gotten support beyond an epic army lmao
>>94101740Exodites are the opposite of hippies. They're the most rugged and individualist of all eldar subtypes and the least reliant on comforts inherited from the Old Ones. It's like calling Catachans hippies, stop being retarded, they're Eldar Deathworlders
>>94101764"if people wanted it, it would already exist" is a silly argument, especially for a thread that constantly pisses and moans about armies that actually do exist like jannies.
>>94101064Okay but doesn't that make the 1st company, not veterans at all? Seems like that's the one that should be the exception.
>>94101410The game demands some mechanical separation, but I decided on>Ork Nob is a Lieutenant-equivalent>3 mobs of 10 boyz, each led by a big'un (stole from fantasy)
>>94101656Exodites wouldn't be another full faction but a microfaction existing inside the eldar codex just like kroots do in tau and harlequins already do in eldar.Exodites are more archaic looking, have got dinosaurs, their own flair of more literal wraithbone and their planets are a relatively important element of eldar background, often a reason to get involved into a conflict such is their potential value as the new planets where eldar may live and be protected from slaanesh.
>>94101116i think hes talking about matchup that are reasonable in lore, obviously the occacion where blood angels fight ultramarines happens at a GS because nobody wants to play the bad guys
>>94101764which is why the emperor children release should get cancelled, right?
>>94101656I like exodites because they ride Dinosaurs, that all they are
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>>94101656>So what are [marine faction n16], as a potential faction, even about?
>>94101827that makes me wonderWhat do you think we'll see for the Emperors children, with regard to new models?
>>94101847>Oi ladz look, it's DA BOSS>'Ez got all 'iz biggunz wit im>Wez in for a PROPA FOIGHT
>>94101847You know why it's bad
>>94101116>Three bloodthirster, shalaxi, and Be’lakorFuck that got me man. Seen it so many times now. It is fun punking Be’lakor with just a couple eradicators tho.
If I have a Captain in Terminator Armor, and I paint him in Dark Angels colors, do I have to run him as Belial?
>>94101116marines fighting marines is always just training exercises.
>>94101888Lame, cowardly, passionless.
So what do the watchers in the dark have to do with the dark angels being gay
>>94101738t. got raped
>>94101888>interrogator-chaplain Assbringer, why did the dark angels kill sixteen space wolves and injure hundreds more in a "surprise training exercise gone wrong"
>>94101905we don't spoonfeed faggots like you heresorry zoomie
>>94101885I don't see why you would?
>>94101865it's too cool isn't it
>>94101918At least I didn't get raped lol
>>94101888Fuck that. I’m out to kill some Vorpal Sword chapter shitheads who challenged our decisions in an honourable battle to resolve our differences with the winner getting the equipment of the loser. I want some more dreadnoughts baby
The Christmas boxes are actually kinda laughably bad upon further review. The big knight doesn't even have the upgrade sprues and is just the 2014 kit, sisters is actually fucking anemic in everything, tau is just showcasing it's shitty gundams, and necrons is okay but it has warriors.
>>94101959>The big knight doesn't even have the upgrade sprues and is just the 2014 kit,how do you know?
>>94101959>Tau box is bad because it has tau units in itGreat post
>>94101971Gw confirmed it in the reveal article.
>>94101975I love a leader that's in my starter saving set with nothing to lead in my fomo box.
>>94102002>FomoYou retards have no idea what words mean
>>94101959i heard that the dark angels one is decent, but thats coming from a space marine player
>>94102019
>>94101978welp, that's downright jewish of them
>>94101865I'll bitewhy is it bad?
>>94102033I accept your concession
>>94101725I'm too lazy to finish it but you get the gist
Is the Redemptor Dreadnought good I like that it has a big plasma cannon
>>94102077its the best dread right now
>>94101959The "christmas boxes" aren't anything of note anymore they just shit out battleforces throughout the year now and every book release for every game has an army box
>>94102055Most of the units suffer a lot from not being led, and a shooty Mek attached to Nobz doesn't count. Borderline trolling.
>>94101888Why are marinefags so lazy? You have a hundred books talking about all the autistic shit they argue and butt heads over. Come up with something for whatever matchup you're doing!>Ultramarines fighting Black TemplarsThe Black Templars defended a world within Ultramar before the Ultramarines could get there in time. The Black Templars declare the world one of their recruiting planets and no longer paying Tithe to Maccrage. The Ultramarines are fucking pissed and a Demi-company to go "settle" the matter. Words are exchanged, heated debate follows, and it finally ends in a challenge. The two forces meet on the battlefield with the victor claiming the planet. Allowances are made for Apothecaries to recapture all Gene-seed in the aftermath, as such a loss could be replenished.
>>94102094easy to call people lazy when you're a nogames like yourself
>>94101959I'd have to go back throughout the years but they seem worse than usual for value
First Terminator for my Alpha legion pretty much done>>94101426Looks great but have you considered using nuln oil to add some shading the the silver plates?
What's the power level order of: CTan, Eldar God, Primarch, Daemon Primarch, and atge biggest class of Titan?
>>94102032It is a good box though I'd say the worst part is The Lion, and this goes for Necrons too, unless as a personal painting/comversion project nobody's going to want multiple of the same named character, which can very well devalue it in such a case.
>>94102094This reminds me, is there a single official artistic depiction of two Imperium factions fighting against each other?
>>94102055>2 tankbustas squads>no warboss leading any of the nobz squads>no nobz squads with power klaws>none of the meganobz have kill sawsi still wanna see it in action though
>>94102077Big assault cannon redemptor is cooler
>>94102100My Necrons and my friend's Ork have been in constant conflict because every time the Necrons beat the Orks, more Orks show up looking for a good fight. Every time the Orks beat the Necrons, the Overlord gets pissed and reawakens more and more soldiers to settle this petty squabble over some border worlds. It matches the vibe since I'm playing with a decade old collection of dust collecting models that kid me never knew to varnish. He's a new player and constantly expanding his force, so whenever I bring stuff to match the new points total I dig it out of my basement. Also my Overlord and his Warboss have an especially tense rivalry since they almost always get into a fight and they're pretty evently matched between them and their Lychguard/Nobz
>>94102107which metallic paint did you use for the armour?
>>94101959The knights Christmas box is actually hilariously stingy compared to the old one which was incredibly successful and popular.The old box was 2x Helverins, 2x Warglaives, plus Canis Rex. You'd buy two boxes and get a full 2,000 point army with a balance between melee and range units, Canis who's the best big Knight in the game and also a good ally for other factions, and then simply build the second Canis as a different big knight instead with bondsmen abilities. the new box is four Helverins, the big knight is worse than Canis and lacks the upgrade sprue, and if you buy two of them your army is gonna be a lot worse for not having any melee or anti-tank options. It's like they saw the unanimous praise for the Chain breaker box and went "oh fuck we actually made something too good, quick make it worse"
>>94102118There's the Badab War
>>94102081Awesome>>94102121Plasma cannons are cooler they blow up and glow blueAlso should I get a Captain or Chaplain to lead my three bladeguard guys or something else
>>94102033How the fuck are you supposed to read this? It doesn't make any sense right to left or left to right. Is it right to up to left down to up?
>>94102153coomers dont read, anon
>>94102131While I agree with this, if you put a helverin on the table and called it a chain blade or whatever, I could not fucking tell the difference and wouldn't give a shit. Just tell me what save I have to roll
>>94102159You wouldn't be able to tell the difference between an autocannon and a big chainsword?
>>94102129Leadbelcher over wraithbone primer, kroxigor over that for the colored plate and nuln oil over the trim. Really simple but I wanted an easier army to paint after doing a bunch of sisters.
>>94102165Which one is the helverin? Which one has the melta?
>>94102134Any official art from it showing Imperium armies engaged with each other? And that one's kind of a stretch anyway since one side is just a prelude to chaos Space Marines and chaos traitor guard. But you'll never see something like art of Gray Knights attacking Sisters of battle or the Space a wolves and the GK fighting or AdMech opening fire on Imperial Guard.
>>94102118>is there a single official artistic depiction of two Imperium factions fighting against each otherprobably cheating but the videogames have plenty of this. There might be art if shit like the Months of Shame or banana jannies chimping out at their own Primaris reinforcements too. Despite GW's continued assurance this is the worst regime in history and the official canon being that it's a Byzantine bureaucracy with many competing factions warring for power while the Emperor is indisposed there's not actually that much art of Imperial on Imperial violence.I guess Kingmaker has assassins vs knights. The problem is if there was a bunch of art of space marines getting melted by SoB with a Meltagun marine players would whine about it, which is why we get the exact opposite and it's instead Marvel team ups like the indomitus trailer
>>94102165>>94102170Because like, helverin kinda sounds like a portmanteau of hell and culverin, and that describes melta pretty well. But isn't it the dakka one? Should call that one the caliver or something
Alright, I'm building my crisis suits, and the instructions show a build where the suits float by using the stands for the drones. Anyone tried it? I think it would look cool but if it breaks easily then I'd rather not do it.
>>94102170Helverin is double autocannon, Warglaive is big Melta cannon and chainsword. The loadouts really look nothing alike
>>94102131The armigers can be built as either variant, but that doesn't detract from the big knight being a stingy fucking "deal".
did anyone here get one of the christmas boxes from last year?the ork one looks proper meme worthy (le snagga shit)
>>94102170Helverins have dual auto cannons in place of arms. Warglaives have a giant Meltagun as one arm and a giant chainsword as the other. They don't look anything alike even at a glance
>>94102177Yeah, I kind of assumed it was to protect the image of factions that they didn't want to depict as antagonistic toward each other, even if the lore says it happens all the time. It's very important to the 40k culture that fans of the Imperium all band together in their hatred of the Xenos and Chaos.
>>94102180Not a taufag but flight stands are a pain imo
>>94102186>The armigers can be built as either variantDoes it actually say that on the website, because they took out the upgrade sprue for the big knight
>>94101959There's gonna be a ton of them floating around for years not a single one of them is good
>>94102181You're missing the point. Put the gun one on the table and paint it like, fucking red or something and just tell me it's the choppy one. That's what I did with my Gunwagon and Bonebreaka, the blue one is shooty and red one with the big rolla is choppy. You're worrying too hard about it.
>>94102192Rogue Trader and early 40k probably has the most official artwork of internecine violence, with that proto-SoB shooting a marine being the most famous one
>>94102199Disgusting behaviour
>>94101725Why are incels obsessed with rape?
>>94101859>that artworkDark Eldar = sex, drugs, rock and rollSlaanesh = fucked up extreme fetish porn which may or may not make sense in the first place.Know the difference.
>>94102199So we should ignore the blatant bad value because you're a retard that would be satisfied with a coke can instead of a model
>>94102196Unless they retcon their article AGAIN this is what it says
>>94102203My point is nobody but Ork players know what the fuck a Gunwagon or a Bonebreaka are, and can't tell the difference between them on name alone.>>94102211No, I even said I agree with the original guy. It is worse value.
>>94101725There was one chapter at least that legit didnt give a shit about murderpillaging civilians for the lulz. Only tolerated because they were good at killing chaos/xenos. I forget their name. Like, the Facefuckers, or something.
>saw an Argentinian streamer buy a box of intercessors for 5,000 Argentinian pesos Bros how does that work? That's like $5
>>94102215okay that's not AS bad as I thought it was but only errant and paladin is pretty lame but still par for the course. It's still probably the "best" value box out of all these
>>94102223>primariswho cares lmao
>>94101859Unironically trans Bile marines, not as the overt selling point but visually and a way too heavy emphasis on music
>>94102223Regional pricing is a fancy way of saying international corporations price gouge the shit out of you for living in a first world country.Even at 5000 pesos that box of intercessors made in Nottingham is still turning a profit, it's like 50 cents of plastic plus electricity as their main cost.
>>94102233Slaanesh being the tranny faction used to work when the setting was half-decent.Now I fear they will abandon that angle completely due to "the modern audience."
>>94101859Noise MarinesFulgrimLucius Phoenix Terminators inexplicably in cataphractii armourSpecial Lord equivalent Some special possessedRelease slot wasting chaff unit.
>>94102239There's a difference between profit and profit incentive*. Without the incentive of first-worlders to price gouge, GW wouldn't exist.
>>94102244Again not as the unit role, but I'm telling you right now the first female space marine will be in that release as a Bile creation and this place will become even worse than it already is
>>94102215>>94102224Am I missing something? Doesnt the knight questoris box come with all the upgrades and such?
>>94102256EC are allowed to have tranny marines, they're the hedonist faction.
>>94102199You play orks, 90% of your models are shitty kitbashes and there's no point in arguing with you about what should be what. You're barely above Tyranids in terms of "yeah fuck it just tell me your rules I can't tell the difference"Imperium players have to actually follow the rules because people know pretty well how Imperium guns should look.
>>94102256It'll never happen and you're making yourself mad over scenarios in your head again
>>94102107looking good brother
>>94102260Would you give me shit for running Mk6s with plasma guns as Hellblasters?
>>94102217Cool, so your argument was things look very similar. So we're back to>>94102165
>>94101859>What do you think we'll see for the Emperors children, with regard to new models?It'll be the same anemic half range as World Eaters.>New plastic Fulgrim despite resin Fulgrim existing for 30K, just like Guilliman and Lion>New Lucius>Bile already exists>a single non Epic Hero generic HQ>New Noise Marines>New Cultist equivalent (either Bile's New Men or noise marine groupies, mayyyybe Slaangors)>Single Elite kit that's one box building two slightly different units, like 8bound and exalted 8bound. Maybe two kinds of Slaanesh terminators, who cares>Then add in all the generic CSM vehicles and daemon engines plus Princesthe endHere's your brand new army bro, enjoy your 7 datasheets with 3 epic heroes
>>94102269No, as plasma = plasma is fine, who cares. But don't tell me a gun is a chainsword lmao
>>94102270If I put a Bonebreaka with a Killkannon and a Gunwagon with a Diff Rolla on the table and asked you to tell me which one was which without my input, could you do it?
>>94102223They price the products at what the market will support. Infinity retardwhales in your nation will buy Primarislop at any price, so prices are set high. The richest Argentine has never even dreamed of more than 100 dollars (the equivalent of a few trillion pesos), so prices are set low.
>>94102256No, since it will probably be one of Bile's New Men, if not his actual daughter who's a named character, and nobody gives a shit about Slaanesh shit growing tits or Billy cloning wimminz because he plans to completely replace the existing human race
>>94102274What if I put a bayonet on my Knight Castellan's volcano lance?
>>94102262I hate chaos space marines so them being ruined is fine with me but that will be a massive turd in the punchbowl for the 40k community
>>94102287That's still clearly not a chainsword, but if it looks cool enough I'd be like sure.
>>94102260Damn ork bros we are being bullied again
>>94102281So you can't tell the difference between an autocannon and chainsword is what I'm hearing
>>94102205Why are women obsessed with rape?
>>94102271>BileBold of you to assume anyone at GW has read the BL novels that would justify his return to them.The fact that he's already in codex CSM means he's probably staying there.
>>94102297I mean I don't personally care. I play Necrons, I lie about what my weapons are all the time, people don't know what gauss flayers and gauss reapers look like. That's the advantage of playing Xenos, nobody can keep track of our bullshit. Can't do that as Imperium or most Chaos.
>>94102296What if I painted my Knight Dominus as Lord Horrik Canorem, but I gave him the Castellan arms and not the Valiant arms? >>94102298I can't tell the difference between a Helverin and a Warglaive from name alone, yes. Warglaive doesn't mention its melta and it doesn't have a glaive, it's a stubby little saw like a Sentinel. The helverin doesn't really have culverins it has small bore rifles.
>>94102258Since a long time yes.The fact they are stripping it out for the Christmas box is criminal
>>94102271I doubt they would make two different units of slaangors and that kit definitely wasn't designed for an upgrade sprue
which edition is this depiction of horus from?
>>94102223So you're telling me it's cheaper to buy a plane ticket to Argentina, buy a new army there, and then get a ticket back than buying the army here?
>>94102318The name is irrelevant
>>94102324Where does it say they're stripped out? Im confused
>>94102329RT or 2nd ed.
>>94102331So I can pull up with Roubote Guilliman and give him dual lascannons?
>>94102318>glaive = melee weapon = melee>helverin = howitzer = rangedyou might be stupid
>>94102205>>94102310Because both are degenerates.
>>94102337thanksi can't stop laughing at horus face
>>94102194Then not doing it. Ghetto ass technique of taking one of the extra drone poles and just cutting it, then cutting the "guides" for the legs and letting the feet hang.
>>94102341How is a helverin a howitzer? Also auto cannons are direct fire weapons howitzers are indirect fire.
>>94101602pre-decline codexes banned daemons in iron warriors army except for daemon princes and possessed - and their possessed were stated to be "different" in that they used daemonic energy to fuel cybernetics instead of mutations.
>>94102358they realized it was fucking stupid and is no longer canon, sorry fanfic faggot
>>94102338Would that be a violation of just the name, you brainlet fuck?"Run the autocannon armiger as the one with Melta and a chainsword, I can't tell the difference" is not the same as not knowing the specific name. Nor is it the same as making up rules
What do I paint my first Primaris as? I'm thinking just blue or maybe black templar.
>>94101577You don't know anything about those legions then
>>94102356couldn't think of another gun that starts with H; the point is that they're both ranged weapons. if that's too complicated for you, you could try actually learning which model is which, retard
>>94102373make your own dudes up
>>94102373dubs say dark angels and also you are now gay
>>94102373>more primemyass players
>>94102370You're fine with one character having a loadout he shouldn't have but not with another.>>94102377>your autism is too much but my autism is fineI mean, I can't really argue with that.
>>94102334The questoris knight box has been sold with all variants since I think 2014 The prior battleforce for knights was the exact same as this one, but had all options.Gw are being cheap shits
>>94102368any later installments that walked back from iron warriors getting exclusive artillery units were steps backwards.
>>94102358Using daemons still makes you chaos dumbass
>>94102373Red Corsairs
>>94102386>You're fine with one character having a loadout he shouldn't haveAt no point did I say this
>>94102389nobody cares, fanficfag
>>94102388They really went out of their way to make that box worse
>>94102398You did. You said the name was irrelevant.
>>94102386my autism means i know what model is which, your autism does not. my autism is superior, yours is inferior
>>94102407You are actually retarded holy shit lmao
>>94102410Yes, you know what model is which for your army. Off the top of your head, what's the difference between a Cronos and a Talos? What about Celestians and Domino's?
>>94102407stop being retarded, he meant the name is irrelevant as in it could literally be called Armiger A and Armiger B, they're two different Armigers with two different load outs and the difference is extremely visible.It's as dumb as trying to run Assault Marines as Devastators. A literal cardboard cutout proxy would be less confusing than saying my melee unit is actually a completely different ranged unit
>>94102329First. That makes his use of lightning claws the most canonical.
>>94102388>hey neil, we found some 2013 knights boxes in the back of the warehouse, wtf do we do with them>shit, lets throw them in a battleforce i guess
>>94102421>>94102424He said he was OK with me running a character with a loadout he shouldn't have, then changed course when I suggested a character with a loadout he shouldn't have. He has no idea what he wants
>>94102423you can't fool me anon. domino's is a pizza
>>94102379>>94102383>>94102384>>94102394I have a Titus figure from that Target exclusive I'm painting blue just because why not and I have a bunch of first born painted red that I bought from a friend over 10 years ago in highschool, I don't wanna have primaris with firstborn it looks funny and blue is the basic guys fuck I have autism or something this sucks.I impulsively bought 11 Ork Boys from Ebay I'm just gonna free hand tho, they look so cool. My Necrons keep fucking breaking when I try to assemble them and nids there's too many of but are fun to paint.
>>94102442Ah fuck it's over
>tfw seeing more and more ork armies being sold on marketplace everydayWtf is going on? Why are my ork brothers bailing?
Points update?
>like the iron hands >don't like vehiclesHow crippled would an iron hands army be without vehicles?
>>94102465>Wtf is going on? Why are my ork brothers bailing?The codex was released as fun and interesting with every single detachment as at least viable.then after it sold enough they got nerfed in a bunch of different ways instead of just points hikesno longer fun
>>94102479Just play grey knights at that point
>>94100946Bolts are two stage. First, a normal propellant charge to ensure stopping power at close range (this is the reason for spent casings visible in some art), then the rocket engine ignites, ensuring higher accuracy at long range.
>>94102485But I thought it didn't matter if orks are shit or not for ork players
>>94102436Tripling down on being a fuckwit doesn't make you look any less stupid anon!
>>94102517being shit isn't the same as being unfunpoints increases wouldnt have made people sell the army
>>94102479I don't understand what you like about them at that point that's their whole gimmick
>>94102172>And that one's kind of a stretch anyway since one side is just a prelude to chaos Space Marines and chaos traitor guard.Someone doesnt know Badab war as well as they think they do!While yes thats kind of correct for the Astral Claws, if youll remember there were multiple chapters on BOTH sides, most of which stayed loyal to the imperium even after. Lamenters, Executioners, Mantis Warriors. Also on the Badab war, i REALLY think that GW needs to do a modern badab war to really get people more invested in the newer chapters and have them actually do something of substance
>>94102528>Nuh uh.Ok
>>94102479if you like dreads you can be fineif you don't even like walkers don't play them
>>94102485The codex was dogshit and propped up by a very small number of pushed datasheets. It was all viable on the basis that you ran said datasheets, not because the codex was actually good. It's a bad book, and the rules are designed like ass
>>94102479Just play iron warriors anon, the real iron army
>>94102532>i REALLY think that GW needs to do a modern badab war Absolutely fucking not. Did you miss the way they screwed up HH?
>>94102436This conversation wasnt even about characters, so I suggest taking your medication
>>94102555The conversation was about levels of autism. He can't even consistently state what autism he wants. He doesn't have a fucking clue.
I would like phobos so much more if it just fully ditched the ugly imperial ornamentation and embraced tacticool, it looks horrible on them
>>94102563There's nothing autistic about being able to tell the difference between an autocannon and chainsword, that's just being a human being with functioning eyeballs
>>94102566I've only ever liked the eagles/purity seals etc on the models that fully embrace it otherwise I would just scrape all that shit off. But I would never even consider doing more than a KT of space marines
>>94102572That's not what was being discussed. What was being discussed is not which one between the two is named Helverin or named Warglaive. The Warglave doesn't have a glaive, and there's nothing hellish about the non culverin weapons the Helverin uses. Both the Helverin and Warglaive go to war.
I'm gay and I like ultramarines
>>94102581>>94102566Forgot pic
>>94102566Ok
>>94102583Ah so you just didn't follow the reply chain at all and are speaking from a place of total and utter retardation. Do that next time!
>>94102583*is which one between the two>>94102594Nigga I'm the guy who brought it up in the first place
>>94102388Does anyone happen to have some pics of which sprues are missing?
>>94102594>>94102598And it doesn't even fucking matter because the box builds both anyway. After I finish my Dominus I might be stupid enough to buy a couple of them, and you bet your ass I'm putting a bigger fucking chainsword on the Warglaives.
GSC bros, how are we this edition? I'm wanting to run hordes of melee acolytes. Any recommendations? Tips? Tricks?
>>94102598Nigger the entire start of this was not being able to build Armigers as both, aka not having the guns, aka proxying autocannons as chainglaives.If you had a stroke and forgot that, your issue.
>>94102624Nigga the entire start of this is that it doesn't fucking matter because only Knight players know what the fuck a Helverin or a Warglaive is.You wanna get really pissed off? Last time I played against Knights I called them all Wardogs anyway.
>>94102619Melee skew works ok, but not really acolytes. They just butchered the mining weapon profile too badly.
Why are necrons always comically evil? Can't they be good guys?
>>94102644They're spooky metal skeletons, why would you want them to be good guys
>>94102644Have you read The Infinite and the Divine?
>>94102634The names are irrelevant. We're looping now because you're so fucking stupid. The issue was the supposed lack of upgrade sprue and the "solution" meaning proxying because nobody could tell the difference.The name never mattered. It could be the Armiger dicksucker 9000 but it's still got an autocannon on it and that's blatantly obvious. If you're actually telling me this entire time your post was only about the name then your post was utterly pointless because that was obviously never any sort of issue whatsoever Last (you) for the terminally retarded.
Im going to invent a 3d printer frame that accepts paint brushes and can paint your minis
>>94102671The names being irrelevant means that running the autocannons as chainswords is also irrelevant. Just fucking tell your opponent beforehand. I built my MANZ with a KFF Big Mek, a Killsaw guy and a Klaw guy, and before the game I just say "hey, these guys are all killsaw guys". Same with my termies, the forced ETB of the Leviathan one means "hey, the power sword guy has a power fist". I'll buy another box of newtermies when I feel like it.
>>94102687Already unnecessary.
>>94102644So they can team up with humanoids and curb stomp Nids>>94102663I don't think so is it good
Where do I get the bladeguard lieutenant?
>>94102566Or you could just get, you know
>>94102721Make one.
>>94102717it's fantastic, if you want to see why necrons shouldn't be the good guys you should read it. it's all from a necron point of view
>>94102585im straight and i like EC
>>94102728But if i make one ill be short a body from my bladeguard squad
>>94102769Get a spare bgv body from ebay.
>>94101354NTA but bully boyz is our second best detachment right now (not saying much), so it can hold its own. Also "elite" for orks is still "horde" for other factions. My bully boyz lists are about 70-80 models, but I lean more to nobz than meganobz.
this is biovore, with his spore mines. say something nice about biovore and his spore mines.
>>94102553>"Absolutely fucking not. Did you miss the way they screwed up HH?"firstly i dont think the new HH is bad at allBUT even for the sake of argument lets say that i do, what part of that matters for GW making a NEW badab war? not a horus heresy type game for badab war (though id probably like that too, but that wont happen because theres not much they could sell for new stuff) but a NEW narrative thing for NEW chapters and marines but in the same sort of way as badab war, like a civil war thing, doesnt need to be 1:1 badab war but primaris or anything
Day 27 of exercising every day until the Emperor's Children Codex is released.Two days ago EC are confirmed for next year, today I get accepted into the Master's program I applied to. Everything has gone so well since I started doing this
>>94102830Sounds very gay anon
>>94102813I appreciate GW tried to redesign it look better but it still fails. The gun thats smarter than the creature should be represented somehow, it should look like a mortar not a cannon. The spider form doesnt suit nids and it lost its connection to the 'nid bioform made from orks' thing it had. Like how neuron and zoanthropes have elda design cues. Had to type this twice because it got dropped twice
>>94102830EC release is just going to be new noise marines, a new lucious (which will probably be a dual kit for a generic EC captain) , Fulgrim, and probably a new EC terminator (judging by all the other traitor legions)If we're LUCKY we might get a unit of slaangors or some slaanesh cultists but idk
>>94102874Slaangors already exist. It's possible they'll be in the EC Codex but seems unlikely to me.Either way, EC are getting 7-8 new kits. Guaranteed.
>>94102825>i dont think the new HH is bad at allWords cannot describe the disgust I feel for you and your wretched ilk.
>>94102912good thing nobody cares about your faggot opinions :)
>>94102830How are you planning on painting your EC when the time comes? Pink and black, purple and gold, or something more out there?
>>94102373Imperial Fists or Alpha Legion.
>>94102870i asked you to say something NICE about biovore with spore mines. something NICE. all you did was BULLY it.
Captain or Lieutenant or Chaplain with my Bladeguard? Or have the Bladeguard be leaderless and have a Librarian with my Hellblasters or Intercessors?
>>94100927They're glass coils.
Do the Warhammer stores usually have the Heroes gacha boxes?I'm in Japan and I'm thinking of getting the mini of the month and a Hero box as a souvenir
>>94103085no they aren't lmao
>>94103092With that attitide? Of course no
>>94103089I got the whole set in america for 70 dollarydoos, but if you really wanna, I think that's where they'd be stocked.
>>94103008I think I'm gonna play it a bit loose. A lot of art shows different shades of pink or purple, and randomly black panels.My default idea is pink with black trim, but varying the shade of pink, occasionally going full purple. But I'm not married to any idea until I see the models.
>>94103039hey know I said I appreciate the idea of it
>>94102566Dude they're the same as tacticus except the greaves and missing a few extra armour panels (tummy, knee flange and power pack).
>realize I have exactly 1,000 points of CSM in my backlog now that I’ve finished moving Huh, neat. Do you guys play at 1k usually?
>>94103120>They're the same but not at all
>>94103130You miss the point, gigabrain. They're similar enough that you could easily enough argue 'why not make tacticus tacticool?'
>>94103141The whole purpose of phobos is to be tacticool it just tacks on extra shit
>>94101885Only if you're playing dark angels and not one of their numerous sucessors that look exactly the same save for minor differences in the shade of green and insignia AND you're painting your army as 1st company.
How's this for a starter list? I already have the captains, the assaults, and half the outriders. The company heroes I just think are neat
Well I was working on deffkoptas but I got a Rukkatrukk squigbuggy as a gift. So here's the WIP for tonight. Hopefully it'll be done by next week for a game.I really love the fatass Orks that are in this model. The guy on the back with the shotgun is such a lard ass and I love it. Can't wait to get some paint on him.
mixed up a bottle of that marine juice and no paint has looked so enticing to drink
>>94102791oh very nice that's good to hear, and 70-80 models is a lot more manageable than 90-135 models
>>94103101I just want one.Shame the Japanese don't have anything exclusive.
>>94103199>he fell for the thin brown wash meme
>>94103219yeah yeah yeah I know you're desperate to be a contrarian lil guy
I don’t have a current Space Marine codex but I’m gonna pick up the new Scout box, what’s a good way to kit them out? Are they worth taking this edition?
>>94102791If I had the imagination and the time I'd love good Ork army with kitbashes as fun looking as those.
>>94102813He's incredibly fun looking and the carapace crests are prettyAnd despite complaints, it fits way more into Tyranid aesthetics and the design is more intelligent than the Ork brute thing from before
>>94103229Auto take action monkeys, build them with whatever, they won’t be fighting most of the time. I run missile, sniper, 2 bolters, chainsword.
>>94100946https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXaQD5RrP7AKind ofRetards just don't realize that gyrojet is flashier than non canon bolter shells.Also cooler.It is kind of hilarious how even later lore confirms self propelled ammo but it is never depicted.At this point said thing is just a bait to get retarded no guns angry.
>>94103222trips confirm he's a little bitch
>>94103234Thanks anon these guys are taking a lot more time and attention than a 50 point unit that I only bring in a couple lists would normally warrant
>>94103222It is literally and I mean literally just thinned wash. Anyone who gushes over it like it's the second coming of agrax earthshade exposes themselves as a hobbylet
>>94103310whatever you say little contrarian
>>94101374>>94101384>>94101409Anybody else remember Wallhammer Faulty Kai?
>>94103177If you don't have the Impulsor yet, don't buy one. Buy a Gladiator for a few dollars more, you can magnetize it between the three variants and remove the turret and shell to run it as an Impulsor. It's like $5 to get a 4-in-1 kit, the Impulsor can only ever be an Impulsor.
>>94103259current fluff is that bolters have an initial propellant launch to cover short ranges and increase muzzle velocity and then a secondary self-propelled gyrojet making them the fully automatic armor piercing rocket propelled grenade launchers we know and love as "bolters"
>already have all the models I would've wanted from the battleforcesT-thanks...
I really hope the 11e starter is marines vs orks
>haven't enjoyed painting for years now >don't enjoy assembling the models>don't enjoy the game itself>can't stand the majority of the community >don't enjoy reading the books>don't care about the fluff anymore>looking at deathguard on ebayWhy am I like this
how long until a scan of the BA supplement is available?low key from what i saw in previews and leaks it looks kinda ass but i'm still curious
>>94103517Owning fancy little army dudes fulfills your innate desire to be a warlord.
>>94103527Amend that: how long after the 19th would it take?
>>94103517>OOOOOOOOOIINK GOES THE PIIIIIIIIIIIIIG
How many rounds can a bolter magazine actually hold? They're huge, right?
>>94103597Realistically like 10 max but it's irrelevant
>>94101959>The big knight doesn't even have the upgrade sprues..do you mean they don't have the excess arms that come in regular armiger kits?
>>94103610Why don't you read his post again
>>94103243thank you for saying something nice about biovore and his spore mines.
>>94101859Seen a couple artworks like this, is there any actual lore on EC (or any chaos marines) with daemonette girls at their side, not criticising, the idea of doomriders/noise marines with groupie daemonettes kicks ass
>>94103517The roaring bonfire that was your passion faded to a memory. You seek the spark that will make its fires roar again. Go on. Seek it.
>>94103633Question still stands. I bought the CK box and the abominant came with enough parts to make a despoiler or a rampager.
What colors should a Deathwing Librarian Terminator be painted? Bone white like the other Deathwings?
>>94103689The, as in the only, BIG knight in the battleforce does not have the extra sprue that allows you to build all of the big loyalist knights
>>94103517You like farts
>>94103761If only death guard actually looked like that. Instead they're covered in horns and mouths
>>94103748Bone, black, green, and blue quartered
>>94103748Pink to trick the genestealers. Also what's stopping the marines from becoming infected?
What's a (melee) horde army that can actually kill shit? I really don't wanna win solely with sitting on objectives/doing actions.
>>94103761>>94103772I would totally play a plumbercore army that had that aesthetic.
>>94103597Pic related is 20https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoK4OyeWAxQ12gauge is 18.53mmBolter is 19.05mmNow imagine how that gun would look like with double feed
>>94103817Why would you want to do that
>>94103822Whats a double feed?
>>94103751That's really gay
>>94103822>Bolter is 19.05mmWoah shit, I thought they would be bigger.
>>94103874When you eat twice as much
>>94103880You'd know all about that wouldn't you
>>94103817Tyranids.Orks.Custodes once you get tired of painting the same model 50+ times.
>>94103900Mmmmnyes
>>94103748Model from the game.
>>94103902I was surprised by how strong Carnifexes were the first time I used them.I deleted a norn emissary in a turn (with good rolls, obviously) with only a melee fex and OoE
>>94103817World Eaters.
>>94103748>Librarian TerminatorHow many of these are there per chapter, like 1 right? like some chapters don't even have enough termies for their whole 1st company and Librarian generally average to 10 of them or less per chapter
Having a hard craving for etsy ripoff Krieg Death Riders.
I know it's contrast slop, but I don't have time for traditional painting. Which of these two base color schemes should I go with for Tau army?
>>94103995It’s contrast but even so you can make it look better. Use the contrast medium to thin it out, and where it’s leaving those pooling spots you want to use your brush to wick those away so it dries more evenly, with or without the thinning medium you want to just spend a minute more making sure everything doesn’t pool so you get a nicer look. Left is the classic scheme and it works nicely because the yellow is good and bright and shows off well at a distance, like in a picture here.
>>94103874When gun is hungrier>>94103892It is bigHeavy bolter is 25mmThere is very few infantry weapons that big and most of those are low velocity like shotgun or grenade launcher
>>94103995I like left better, but you need to fix a few things. I'd say make the gaiters a different color, it looks weird to have them be the same look/texture as the armor. Also, you need to stop painting the back toe in with the gaiter, it should be the same as the front 2 toes. And paint the lenses some other vivid color to have them stand out.
>>94103995The dark one could be really cool if you do just a little bright accents like glowing lenses on the helmet. Follow >>94104008's advice.
>>94103517because you think that maybe they'll be the one to get you back into something you used to enjoythat thinking is why I have like 5 different armies (7 depending on how you want to count it)
what do i play if i like feet
>>94103761>wake up>don't shower or shave but do shit>get out of bedIt's deathguard time.
>>94104027
>>94104027Dark eldar/ ynarriPossibly tyranidsGuard with lots of rattlings
>open up the app>not subbed so I can’t read the rules>realize I can count how much points my stuff is worthHuh, I own 1360 points worth of CSM, neat.
>>94104008>>94104015This is just the base coat so I was going to add accent color and the lens and stuff. Idk how to stop it from pooling, I tried soaking up the extra with my brush but that leaves a spot that's lighter than the rest
>>94103995If you are sooooo pressed for time that that level of paint job is all you have time for, you may want to reconsider this as a hobby.Warhammer is a hobby of years. Armies cost hundreds of dollars, potentially thousands, and take dozens of hours just to assemble and clean. To absolutely slap dash 2 coats of thin liquid on a model and call it a paint job will be a disservice to yourself and a questionable use of all the time and money you spent buying and building the army in the first place. Watch some tutorials, get some fundamental painting techniques under your belt, and take your time. Unless you are a literal meta chasing tourney fag taking flights to international events on a tight deadline, there is no excuse to put so little time and effort into a paint jobAll that said, ochre and black is the superior scheme
>>94104065clean brush and soak up poolingif it's too light after go in with a small bit of contrast on the brush and touch that spot upcontrast is much easier to get a consistent basecoat but it's not a one and done paint like it's advertised as, unless you do something like a zenithal/slapchop underneath to help aid with the overall look
>>94104066Considering 70%+ of all armies I see at every LGS I visit nowadays are entirely grey tide or partially grey tide, I can't have anything bad to say about anon quickly slopping on some contrast
>>94103962>How many of these are there per chapterDepends on the chapter but usually two:Chief Librarian1st Company Librarian
>>94104027ynnari
>>94104078Whatever you say. They're your minis, if that's really what you're willing to settle for just because other faggots are worse, then so be it.
>>94104066>If you are sooooo pressed for time that that level of paint job is all you have time for, you may want to reconsider this as a hobby.anon please stop taking drugs, pic related is totally fine for a random infantry model and is painted to a perfectly reasonable standard, it just needs basing. if you would genuinely spit on someone with an entire army painted like this because it's not "good enough" for you and you demand they buy an airbrush instead you're outing yourself as peak nogames.
>>94104116Ngl that kinda looks dire compared to clean basecoating and some washes
>>94103995is there any way of getting rid of the coffee stains from contrast paint?
>>94104116If that's what you need to tell yourself then go right ahead. Your money, your time, I'm not gonna stop you
How does anon do fire and plasma colors? The usual blue?
>>94104116noir warriors
>>94104131thinning the paint and being careful with the contrast application helps. You can also just touch up any spots after if you have a similar looking base/layer paintI did these guys in contrasts without too much pooling issues
>>94104131Paint over it with regular paints or thin it with medium and do multiple coatsSome kind of underpainting or zenithal can also help break it up, or additional passes of layers and highlights. But just raw contrast on flat panel armor? Not really, it's gonna pool
>>94104133that anon's fire warrior looks fine.
>>94104134All the fire
>>94104148it's hilarious how much the standard for paintjobs has jumped in the last 20 yearsthis shit was (still is lmao) the fucking official promo paintjob supposed to sell you on those models and nowadays it looks like somebody's first models
>>94104154I don't get it
>>94104157>his shit was (still is lmao) the fucking official promo paintjobyeah, even with the new webstore. they let you spin it 360 degrees in all their gloryhttps://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/Imperial-Guard-Catachan-Jungle-Fighters
>>94104134
>>94104157>>94104166Post models
>>94104169botpost
>>94104144do you thin it with contrast medium or water?
>>94104169
>>94104171medium, water will change how it behaves too much
>>94104170more like basedpost
>>94104169>>94104181>leave the multi-billion dollar corporation's artists alone
>>94104186small indie companyreminder their head rules writers get paid less than a manager at costco
>>94104177not trying to be an asshole but this doesn't look better than those catachans, arguably worse because of how badly the white is applied
>>94104195>arguably worse because of how badly the white is appliedanon, nothing is worse than those catachans
>>94104198you just dont know what the horrors of war do to a man
>>94104203He actually went cross-eyed after seeing how dogshit his 10th edition datasheet was
>>94104179What ratio?
>>94104210depends on the contrast, they have different densities
>>94104210Fire warriors come with a lot of extra bits if I remember right because they build both fire warriors and breachers. Prime some extra left over pauldrons to play around with mixing ratios before using it on your main squads
I took some feedback and did another one, trying to sop up the pools and changed the gaiter color. How does it look?
>>94104227These models have sat assembled in a box for a decade, I don't have the extra bits
>>94104228I prefer the black one. Give it some red or christmas green accents and it will look sick. Maybe some light grey camo pattern over the black panels to break up the pooling. Most people's shit talking is due to the close up photo, at tabletop level it will look just fine
>>94103995Left looks nicer imo. Also look forward to seeing what you're doing for the bases
>>94104228Looks fine, needs a bright colour for eye lenses to break it up a bit
>>94104228looks much better, close to the old boxart tau color-wisedefinitely color in the eye lenses regardless of scheme you go with
>>94104228better, but i would still consider trying a traditional workflow. it doesnt take much more time and in my opinion looks much better on smooth surface models like tau and eldarhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDx65dSK3xc
>>94104292>in my opinion looks much better on smooth surfaceWhy would they care about your opinion
Should I edge highlight Necrons? Maybe just edge highlight the "sharp" edges and dry brush everything else?
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>>94104305Because it is the correct one
>>94104144>Kino monopose calthtemptorBased
>>94102813He a qt
>>94104228A lot better, anon!
>>94104228clean your nails