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>>94241085Honestly considering Miyazaki likes MTG it's not impossible, but since Elden Ring takes no little inspiration from MTG I'd expect to see an Elden Ring crossover first, just because it'd be easier and fir closer with Magic's high fantasy aesthetics.>>94242304Never played FF, just hope we don't get another Orcish Bowmasters or One Ring situation where there's an obviously busted card which can't be banned due to it looking from a crossover ip perspective.
>>94242313Elden Ring characters are forgettable as fuck, almost as much as MTG really. It'd be a better set if it was focused on original Dark Souls but that would never happen
>>94242319I think it depends on Miyazaki, but if there's is just one Dark Souls set it probably won't just be one game. Like how the Fallout and FF sets cover multiple games probably due to limitations of some sort like Wizards is only allowed to make x cards of y characters if z amount of time, despite that leading to some weird flavor.Moth Man being the mutant face commander? That thing being given higher billing than the Master? Nick Valentine caring about when robot dies despite his entire gimmick being he's a robot who investigates human murders, Boone being in the Ceaser deck? Absolutely insane. My first instinct is to say that Miyazaki would prefer not to mix multiple games into one and would also want his most MTG inspired properity to be the one that's adapted, espically since Fromsoft shareholders want more Elden Ring the most. But I could be wrong and it's not like I know the guy.
>>94242319A quick look at Ao3 shows there's a greater volume of Elden Ring fan fiction than Dark Souls so it appears the general populous disagrees with you about which characters are memorable
/ccg/TQ What's the most unique mechanic you've come up with?
>>94242407>some obscure fanfiction forum>general population>elden ring the game with overtly LGBTQ themes is more popular among the erotic fanfiction crowd than DS1 where it's done tastefully
>>94242426That image's good and all, but shit's crispy and too low-res to comfortably read some of the text.
>>94242313I want another One Ring or Bowmasters-tier busted card.I just don't want it to be some kind of MH3 aggro disaster where a one drop/two drop gets 8 different lines of text and kills you while generating card advantage.
>>94242429>obscure fanfiction forumWeird way to spell "the most popular fan fiction website by far"
>>94242319>Elden Ring characters are forgettable as fuckMiquella was memorable
>>94242477Have you perchance considered playing a format where you start at 40 life?
>>94242482>the most pupular romanian basketweaving forum
>>94242488Oh yes, he was.
>>94242477That's a dumb idea, honestly the One Ring and Bowmasters are the worst things to come out of the crossovers so far and is a perfect example of why UB is even worse than the shitty Horizon sets.At least the cards from the Horizon sets can be banned, but where either going to see the One Ring never banned at all or were going to see it restricted in Modern of all places, both of which are situations that wouldn't have happened without UB are worse for the game overall. Wizards shouldn't have to think about IP holders think in their banning decisions.
>>94242426>TQ What's the most unique mechanic you've come up with?It's not a named keyword or anything, but my second set has steadily been leaning on a "Mana value matters" subtheme and it's ending up fairly strange and interesting.
>>94242512>if I just act like an obtuse retard that'll make it seem like I'm right
>>94242304>TQWe've had one "/mtg/" thread derailed by third-party IP discussion, yes. But what about second "/mtg/" thread derailed by third-party IP discussion
>>94242540>trust me bro fanfiction is a popular hobby its totally not something for single 30yo wine aunts
>>94242477>>94242525They're not banning them because they're recent cards, not because they're crossovers. Nadu was "just" over the line and was also a genuine design mistake. One Ring is probably as powerful as they intended it to be, so they don't want to ban it as a "oh whoops" move. Bowmasters is also not inherently linked to LOTR, they can reprint that anywhere.
>>94242556>Nadu was "just" over the line and was also a genuine design mistakeNadu had less than 30% meta share.TOR has 63% meta share.
>>94242559Nadu was also a "oh this is obviously getting banned" so people stopped caring. It's also just a poor play pattern. TOR is absurd, sure. But its play pattern is just "some more time and some cards", which feels like annoying to sit through.
>>94242559I don't play "modern" but presumably that's because Nadu @ 30% represented a single archetype, while TOR @ 60%+ represents a cross-archetype staple.Not arguing against a ban (mostly because I couldn't care less about "modern"), just saying it makes sense for the "problem threshold percentage" to differ between the two because of the inherent difference.But as I said I don't play "modern" so maybe Nadu was just as ubiquitous, or maybe TOR is less of a staple and actually has a distinct archetype of which I'm unaware.
>>94242577>is just "some more time and some cards",>some time>some cardsanon its fucking ten cards and a god damned time walk fuck off
>>94242581>I don't play "modern" but presumably that's because Nadu @ 30% represented a single archetype, while TOR @ 60%+ represents a cross-archetype staple.THEREISNOSINGLEONERINGDECKDOMINATINGTHEMETA
>>94242581TOR just kinda goes into a lot of decks. There IS an argument that without it, Modern loses literally any deck that wants to go past turn 4, but sheer ubiquity is a problem on its own (it's played more than some fetchlands I think).
>>94242588>There IS an argument that without it, Modern loses literally any deck that wants to go past turn 4See the problem with that argument is every deck in modern is designed to win by turn 3 or faster, and THEY STILL RUN FOUR COPIES OF TOR.
>>94242556The One Ring is way more ubiquitous due to how generic it is combined with how strong it is.Nadu was bad, but The One Ring is way way worse, Modern is supposed to be a 60 card format, not a 56 +4 copies of The One Ring card format.
>>94242596To clarify, I'm not saying it shouldn't be banned. I'm just saying there's a lot clearer of a throughline to banning Nadu (design mistake + poor play pattern of non-deterministic loops, etc) compared to The One Ring. Very real chance they ban it, and I can honestly see a banning not touching its price all that much because it'll still see play in Commander and LOTR fans will still want a One Ring card.
>>94242610>I'm just saying there's a lot clearer of a throughline to banning NaduNot really.Nadu was annoying but wasn't completely buttfucking soloing the entire format.TOR would have an effectively 100% meta share if it wasn't for Storm being the 3rd top deck. The thoughtline to ban TOR is infinitely more clear than the one for banning Nadu
>>94242585it's so kino that the one ring is dominating some shitty mtg format and driving people insane
>>94242668Lol yeah, it could've been another jank mythic but instead it's doing exactly what you'd expect it to do. Imagine if that RC guy had been murdered because of it.
>>94242621>Nadu was annoying but wasn't completely buttfucking soloing the entire format.yes it was lolwe literally had a modern pro tour level event right before the banning and saw it in action
>>94242304so it's just final fantasy characters in the same style as any other card in the game for the past decade
>>94242668>>94242686 Tolkien must be rolling in his grave.
give me a quick rundown on Belzenlokwhy is he an elder demon compared to Griselbrand, Kothophed and Razaketh?
>>94242728i heard that WotC paid amano a million dollars to draw most of the set in pencil crayon and water colour
Lolhttps://x.com/wizards_magic/status/1849511189442666700
>>94242744same energy
>>94242744I hope Vagoroth gives him a haircut.Vraska and Jace deserve to have custody taken away from them just for letting loot have that bad of a haicut.
>>94242736must be the alt arts which "a million dollars" will be sure to be original works which is neat
>>94242706>yes it was lolLess than 30% meta share at peak.TOR peak meta share is 63%.These things are not the same.
>>94242780anon, you're a retardkeep crying to everyone I guess
>>94242744>Corporate overlords demand you make a cute, marketable mascot character>Get your TOP MEN (female) on it.>They shit out a fucking Sonic Movie pre-edits tier abomination realistic human teeth>Corporate overlords, having know skill or talent at anything, scoop it up and begin shilling the character in every possible format even though fucking nobody cares about it
gahd fuck don't remind me of Lootthat scene introducing him was some of the most repulsive shit I have ever read
>>94242734He's much older, fought in the war of the Abyss, took over most of Dominaria before Gideon killed him. Although I feel like the Elder title is almost always given out arbitrarily.That reminds me, it'd be nice to see the Abyss eventually as it's the shared home plane of demons and devils.
>>94242734WotC is retarded and staples Elder onto random shit like dinosaurs and octopus when they want it to feel "le epic" and have "a certain je ne sais quoi"
>>94242734He's ostensibly the most powerful of Liliana's four demons, but you could honestly just make the joke be that he gave himself the Elder title. The only other Elder Demons, I think, are Shilgengar (progenitor of Innistradi vampirism, deserved) and Valgavoth (the whole reason Duskmourn is the way it is, deserved). Belzenlok is just sort of a random-ass demon by comparison. He was A threat, but not a MAJOR one.
Unleash splinter twin
>>94242925Modern deserves mox opal
>>94242357problem is that all fallout games are set in the same world, and ff games are set in the same multiverse, share several themes and can crossover with each other. but dark souls and elden ring are completely different, they have no connections and the elements of the world work in different ways, dark souls dragons and elden ring dragons aren't the same thing, "fire" is associated with wildly different concepts etc.making a set with both wouldn't make sense
>Play Master Duel>Feel the gamblecore dopamine being injected directly into my brain>Yet at the same time effects are visible, the UI is great, and the game is functional>Play Arena/MTGO>It looks like shit>I'm constantly praying the game doesn't crashYou legitimately could not show me this and make me think MtG is the more successful game that inspired the other one.
>>94242986I meant that they'd combine DS1, 2, and three all into one set if they did a Darksouls set. Since everytime they're brought an ip they've adapted the entire series at once, consequently if they did an ER set they'd only have to adapt Elden Ring.
>>94243056Yeah Magic is pretty gay now
>>94243056YGO managed to have its digital sim largely supercede its paper game which is genuinely impressive.
>>94243056>Japanese programmers that care about architecture and product qualityvs.>American diversity hires that get paid to outsource the programming work they were supposed to be doing to IndiaThe difference in quality is shocking.
>>94243056I have never had Arena crash on me, and I've been playing since open beta. What the fuck are you guys doing?
>>94242744I thought it was a Gochizo...
>TQNot Magic the Gathering. That's a nice art though. Even though my knowledge of FF is mainly contained in 789.
>>94243056MTGO is a marvel of software engineering, its like saying you dont like dwarf fortress because of the graphics
>>94243116propably because nobody wants to actually read and resolve the cards irl since they are so horribly written and the rules are full of corner cases way too often. digital dodges the requirement to know either of these
>>94242734It seems incongruous because the story is bad (and mechanically because high CMC cards are usually worse than low CMC cards). Going purely by Belzenlok's listed credentials and not the obviously fake ones, he probably could have been a set-level threat even in the days of Oldwalkers, and one has to assume he isn't lying because otherwise he would have jobbed to other demons long before taking over the Cabal. If the modern stories weren't so paper-thin and the protagonists weren't wearing heavy plot armor, Belzenlok would have been a serious problem. Still sad we didn't get the version of him /tg/ suggested way back during DOM spoiler season, which was something like: "Creatures you don't control are Legendary. Creatures you don't control are named Demonlord Belzenlok."
>>94243236Selvala to cast Panglacial Wurm
>>94243361key words way too often, anon
Remember,the future is now, old man.
4 hours left until first Foundation spoilers. Still time to place your bets and wants for reprints into Standard and Pioneer.
>>9424345299% shit no one cares about, 0.5% standard meta warping shit to sell packs, 0.5% niche modern/legacy sideboard card that ends up becoming a format staple
If my wife terra esper form becomes a card hope shes not too expensive
>>94243524uuuuuuh didn't you forget the commander bait?
>>94243452I hope we get bolt even if it's unlikely as hell
>>94243236YGO had the Hearthstone problem, except they did it in paper.>sure, let's print a card that makes players track storm count for abilities as well as permanent types on the boardNot even going into the actual rules for the game itself, shit like "You can't fail to find, you must have a legal target for a search effect to activate it. You need to have your entire deck memorized. If you fuck up then you get a warning. No, your opponent can't look through your deck to confirm, and showing them your deck gets you a warning."
which deck is gonna win the most rounds today on worlds?
>>94243613golgari demons
>>94243613"gruul" prowess, of course
>>94243529normal printing will be wotc slop art so your buying the $199 alt
>>94243661*Buys a proxy*
>>94243661sometimes the normal printing is better
>>94243681
>just got off a draft>somehow pulled 2 Artist's Talents There's gotta be something I can do with this in constructed, right?
>>94243747if you want to play either phoenix or lotus combo in pioneer, yeah
>>94242550why not a third?
>>94243693it's pretty rare though
>>94242304I'll be mildly satisfied as long as his card isn't boring trashBut my expectations are a whole lot of made for edh cards that create +1/+1 counters
>>94242550the best way to deal with these things is to let people talk about it as much as they want to get it out of their systemcase in point, black aragorn is still on of the most absurd things to ever be put on a tournament legal magic cards but it has already been mocked and discussed to deathI promise you that by next week we'll be talking about how shitty the next few standard sets are going to be
Should black get pegged down a notch in Pioneer?
>>94243796i'd love to be a fly on the wall when they decided to make Aragorn black. I'm betting it was like from a purely cynical publicity stunt POV and not even that related to DEI
>>94242734Magic uses elder to mean exceptional long lived so he must be over 10,000 years old.
>>94243849don't forget about Theoden, Eowyn and Galadriel
>>94243886Eowyn been black and Eomer beign white just add even more to the retardationAlso Merry, Glorfindel and Gandalf are black too
>>94243916but kept all the Villian White and even made the Easterlings white as well to make sure there were no bad minorities in the set
>>94243827I think other colors should be brought up to black's level, banning fatal push or thoughtseize (as it often get suggested when talking about black) isn't gonna make people run worse interaction in their place, they'll just gravitate towards decks that don't bother interacting with the opponent at all like mono green
Worlds hype
>>94243997Thoughtsieze should be banned because it's a dumb, bad idea for a card but I could take or leave keeping Fatal Push and getting more removal spells that are on par with it
>>94243886>Aragorn>Theoden, Eowyn and Galadriel>all blackThey wuz truly kangs and qweens
>>94244058Thoughtseize is one of the most beautifully designed MTG cards ever. I don't think anyone has ever said the card is busted except for piotards
>>94243796This card makes me want to commit violent acts against individuals who I identify as my enemy based on surface-level observations
If you play or enjoy Modern somehow you are the ultimate cuck and a retard.
fucking finally competitive is back on the menu. time to waste the weekend
>>94243827Black should not get pegged before me.
>>94244133tsmt
>>94244084dude lose 2 life lmao
>>94244149台灣表面黏著科技股份有限公司?
>>94243529Almost certainly will be a card as normal Terra, with maybe an Esper Form ability.
>>94244165urban is your friend
WHERES FOUNDATION SPOILERSI NEED TO KNOW HOW FUCK STANDARD IS GONNA BE
>>94244316>StandardWhy hurt yourself like this?
>>94244316In 3 hours or so.
>>94244316Give it a minuteVery
>>94244322He likes Magic the Gathering. If you like MtG, your choices are limited, it's either Standard or Pioneer.
>>94244322everyting else is fuck too, maybe except Pauper is not that bad but im not familiar with the format
>>94244322Im tempted to come back doing magic man.
He's coming back.
this is why you have to keep the arena general on /vg/ bumped
>Atraxa still not banned from StandardWhy does WOTC want to create the most boring gaming environments known to man at all times?
>>94244316afaik new set spoilers in 1 bing 20 bong, foundations in 2 bings 20 bongs
also not on live stream. they got a panel and will upload the vod on youtube.
What's more likely Wizards changing the Legendary rule so you can only have 1 of each unique legendary card per deck. Making all legendary cards one-ofs.Or wizards restricting The One Ring to be a one-of in Modern?
>boy I'm excited to play some FNM!>8 games of Atraxa in a rowI don't think I'm even going to bother going to my LGS anymore. MTG is done. It is unsalvageable in literally every single format.
Chance of Goyf in Foundations now that Lili is a thing? I want my boomer jund back.
are we watching the magic championship bwos? I hope this is the right thread
>>942444560. It's going to just be a bunch of familiar cards from around the GRN and RNA time because they don't want to actually have to code new cards for Arena. I absolutely guarantee it.
>>94244469Yeah idc about the draft part tho
>>94244470Tarmagoyf is on Arena already.
>>94244515I still think they'll be focusing most of Foundations around cards that were in GRN and RNA and Goyf won't make it.
>>94242319Quad puppet handjobs still gets art.
>>94244411That's a problem with your LGS, not the meta. Worlds has very little atraxa.
>>94244539Oh cool, I'll just pop to fucking Worlds every time I want to play MTG. Cheers mate. You've fucking cracked it.
>>94243223MTGO is a pile of dried spaghetti that runs on pure spite.
>>94244340This anon understand.You can only enjoy this fucking game just playing Standard or Pioneer nowadays.
>mix up my time zones>realize there’s still another hourFuck
>>94243452My most wanted is Vindicate. I'm curious how it would fare in standard.
>>94244555apart from the slow startup time and memory leaks that make you have to close and reopen every 3 games and the future sight border cards absolutely breaking the game it runs just peachy
>>94244526Esper girls stay winning.
>>94244316I come from the future standard is all Merfolk tribal
>>94244627Even mono-red?
>>94244633yes its called Mer-red now
>>94244627>>94244633We are so back!
>>94243452Path to Exile and Blood Moon because fuck it let's just drop the pretenses and make Pioneer into old Modern without fetches. Maybe even Aether Vial. Also the missing Elf pieces, like Archdruid and Nettle Sentinel+Heritage Druid. Maybe Humans too, like Champion of the Parish and Meddling Mage.I'd also like some quasi-reprints, like Faithless Looting without flashback or Extirpate without Split Second. It's kinda ridiculous that Pioneer doesn't have a Extirpate/Surgical equivalent after all this time.
>>94244705>let's just drop the pretenses and make Pioneer into old Modernbut that's not what wotc wants pioneer to be, it's what people are projecting onto the format, wotc just want people to keep caring about standard cards after they rotate, the "pioneer feels like old modern" feeling is irrelevant to them
>that gruul powerlevel in StandardGod Magic fucking sucks these days doesnt it?
>>94244731I like how WotC has solved the problem of having to ban way too much shit in Standard, by simply not even bothering to ban it anymore.
>>94244730My phrasing was perhaps unclear. That's what I'd want to happen. What's really going to happen is a bunch of shitty reprints with a couple surprises alongside a whole slew of Commander targeted garbage and some new horrors beyond our current comprehension.
>>94242192>magic is primarily a video gamethis is the funniest thing someone here has ever said in months if not years
>>94244411>Pop in for FNM>8 games of RX aggroI'm with you man. We're at the point where if your local meta isn't trash, then it's garbage.
take the premodern pill. MTG is at it's best when modern day Hasbro cannot touch it and thats what premodern is, a format locked in time
>>94244743i mean it is now. it's utterly miserable doing all the housekeeping stuff in paper.the all of the delayed triggers that got printed lately, having to keep track of shit like dungeons, an entire token being necessary to remind you what each tempt does.. it really is a video game at this point.
>pop in for FNM>there is no more FNM at my LGS>there's just a single table of Commander players in the corner
>>94244743Future is now, old men.
>>94244811why hasn't anyone made an 8ed-jou format yetpremodern is before my time but i'd be all over late 2000s-late2010s mtg kino>>94244817>pop in for fnm>lgs is a 40k store now
>>94244820yea and most of mtg doesn't exist on arenanot even old stuff, it doesn't get most of the new stuffarena is not the future lmao
I want Wizards to show the data they looked at when they came to the conclusion that Standard was revitalized because it's completley dead in Georgia.
>>94244817>go to fnm>meet the same 14 guys and 1 girl like every week>roll dices to decide who goes into pod 1 and 2>enjoy an evening of duskmourn draft
>>94244855>enjoy>duskmourn draftdestroyed your own credibility at the last moment
>>94244864I have a winrate of ~70% in Duskmourn. I enjoy the free cards and packs. Meanwhile I got fucked raw during Bloomburrow. Did not vibe the set at all.
>>94244864nta but duskmourn draft is great
>>94244646Yeah, but izzet prowess shits on it because of the questing merman.
I warned you about keeping the arena generals bumped dawg...
>>94243452Not really a mechanic, but I thought this was pretty neat even though it is a variation of upkeep payoff.
>>94243452they should bring back level upat least they (might) bring tribal/kindred for return to lorwynfor individual cards bring back bolt
>>94244864If you didnt enjoy DSK draft you are an absolute faggot or a peak brainlet anon. Sorry to tell you this way.
lets go
>>94244864Retard
>>94244968stream link?
>>94244974Not being streamed, just livetweeted with a VOD upload later, I guess because the Magic 30 Championship thing is going on right now.
>>94244968I WANT TO SEE THIS
is there an infographic that says how much fun each set was for draft in recent yearsand maybe one for power level in standard
But before we start. Lets talk about MTG on Netflix!
>>94244980That's lame as fuck
>>94244968Livetweet link if you want it. https://x.com/wizards_magic/status/1849903828981751879/photo/1First thing is just the showrunner for the Netflix series being brought on.
>>94244993SURELY it won't be cancelled this time rightSURELY
>>94244993>>94245000He came on to say nothing except to say he has something to say in the future.
>>94244884Was talking with regulars in my LGS about this last week and I feel that there is some correlation between DSK limited and BLB limited and who enjoys them seems to not like the other.BLB was a very narrow limited experience, you very quickly pick a tribe and draft that tribe for the rest of your picks, very little room to splash a 3rd color or tribe. DSK feels very opposite, of that, you have to stay open and prepared to pivot into another color, or archetype. very rarely do you p1p1 (any archetype,) and stay in that archetype the whole draft.Feels like some people like the very narrow draft experience, and dislike DSK because they have think outside the box a bit.
>>94244968do you think foundations will turn standard into planeswalker crap again?
>>94244855I dont know how duskmourne draft is so perfect but duskmourne standard is so ass.
the cast enters the stage
>>94245020Low power sets with weak/absent tribal strategies usually make for good limited play. The caveat is that they also tend to pivot on the quality of rare or mythic bombs you end up with.
>>94245023I hope the stage collapses and they all die
also what with the titles in the usa. everybody is president or manager.
is the outlook on foundations good so far? im a returning player (last played around m15 as a kid) and am looking at foundations pre-release as a good re-entry point
>>94245028Is Duskmourne considered lower power?
>>94245037Daily reminder that there is no E in Duskmourn.
>>94245033It's a core set but slightly less bad (their words)
when we will see fucking Foundations cards?
>>94245044Foundations Draft already seems like it'll be a mess with Omniscience and all the PWs already in
>>94245023>VP collectibles>looks like a funkopop collecting basedboy>VP Creative>looks like every black female introduced in modern mtg cardseh
>>94245046in like 2 hours or something after final fantasy
>>94245023How fucking long has Mark had that picture used? It's gotta be like 10-15 years now?
>>94245042Damn, WOTC really suck at naming things.
>>94245031It's what happens when a company grows too big for its britches and becomes over-corporatized.
>>94245030Cool it with the death threats anon...
>>94245049Is this your first core set draft? Enjoy.
>>94245058typical Seattle basedlet clinging to "youth"
>>94245058I thought the same thing
>>94245009I was under the impression people hated BLB because they felt they had to draft the color pairs tribe when that was usually the wrong choice.
>>94245063Okay I hope they loose all their money while they're in Vegas
Welcome to a new era!
>>94245081What does any of this mean.
>>94245028Duskmourn has plenty of synergistic archetypes, they're just not tribal.
>>94245063Does "I hope you die in an accident" really constitute a death threat these days?
>>94245081Looks who's back.
>>94245086>>94245081Sounds like they're doing origins 2.Hopefully it's nothing at all like origins because origins was the worst thing to happen to the story
>>94245081wotc will bugger up all these but number three especially they will fuck up
>>94245092I mean, we all pretty much called it.
>>94245086buzzwordbuzzwordbuzzwordalso commander lol
>>94245058he posted this yesterday, dude's not exactly trying to seem young
>>94245092He doesn't look very sad
>>94245108he's mewing and mogging you
>>94245081>foundation to learn about black and LGBTQ history>foundation for your Secret Lair and Funkopop collection>foundation for shallow and over-referential world building (full of black and LGBTQ see point 1)
>>94245092Next.
>>94245108He's solemn, not sad.
>>94245108Solemn doesn't necessarily mean sad, more just serious. He looks pretty serious and duty-bound.
>>94245106he probably should update now he seems decent enough for his age
>>94245113>commons are getting alternate art nowpauperbros... they're targeting us now...
>>94245113Interesting.
>>94245092Okay so this will see>checks notesAbsolutely zero play?
>>94245119He's, what, 57/58 now?
>>94245127POWERFUL WHITE
>>94245106holy slampig I bet she's really good at cooking and doing house chores
>>9424513057
>>94245106someone shop that image into a real magic card where Mark is inexplicably African American but his wife is unchanged
>>94245127More commander bait.
>>94245127Ah, yes, powerful white cards.
>>94245127white people on white cards never ever again :^)
>>94245127not bad
>>94245127FLASHFLYING
>>94245127S.H.I.T.
>>94245127why is she boldand why is she using a bident as a weapon
>>94245127Mmm, thighs.
>>94245139both of those are white people
>>94245150The only one who notices what's truly important is you, anon.
kaito and chandra are the blue and red walkers to complete the cycle. no jace.
>>94245141that post might've been the best thing /mtgag/ has ever produced
>>94245151based race delusion anon
>>94245155We already knew this. Chandra just REALLY needed her 20th fucking card I guess.
spot the funny pronouns or chuds with no pronouns is my favorite part of the stream.
foundations is over for now. more in 40 bings. now to new sets."Mark has some big news when it comes to the future of set rotation in Magic. Beginning in 2027 set rotation will take place with the start of the calendar year instead of with the Fall set release. This aims to simplify the question of what set rotates out when moving forward!"
And that's it for Foundations until the panel after this which is a proper preview panel.
>>94245170>Beginning in 2027that's three years away ay this point
MSRP returns (for Play Boosters and Commander Precons at least).
The kikes actually made a good (see: partially undid a bad) change
for now i'm not very impressed by Foundation shit.
>>94245127>>94245113>>94245092Why does now one in wotc seem to know how to write flavor text anymore?
tranny alert
2027 is at the cusp of the end of the human civilization as we know it.
why does it wear a dress but keep its name as jason
>>94245113Who would win>Nigh unstoppable ancient god-like horrorOr?>old ass angry bird man telling him to get off his lawn
>>94245176>>94245178Oh NOW they want to do MSRP
>>94245167>>94245183>IT/ITSwtf...
>commander chads win again:^)HHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA
>we are making Universes Beyond tentpole sets legal in all formats going forwardOHNO
>>94245182modern fantasy writing is a travesty because the only people who read fiction anymore are retards
>>94245192Worst idea ever second only to Universes Beyond as a whole.
>>94245187The less gay version of said horror
>>94245166They're needed for the Chandra tribal deck.
whens the live vintage cube event where they draft for keeps? I want to see someone open a black lotus live on cam
>>94245192ohso the game is deadcool have a good one everybody, it was fun while it lasted
SPIDERMAN AND FF LEGAL IN STANDARD?
>>94245192Ah fuck it begins.
>>94245182Some people like dogshit flavor text, so we'll keep making it
>>94245192whyUB cards are generally shit outside of EDH
Not so uppity now standardkeks and pioqueers?
>>94245216One of the TWD cards was dominating vintage for a while wasn't her
>>94245209>Unbannable cards legal in standardGenius move Mark.
>>94244340>>94244563UHHHHHHH GUYS??? WHAT ABOUT THIS >>94245192
>>94245216Now they'll be even more shit since they're printed for Standard instead of Modern
>>94245192
>>94245192fuck this gay fucking game fuck those fucking greedy kikes please GOD Almighty strike those filthy fucking kikes where they stand in their pedo piss orgy party in Seattle, WashingtonDIE DIE DIE
>>94245192OHNONONONO!!!!!!!
>>94245192I can't believe it's actually overLike wow
>>94245216they're trying to make it as easy as possible to transition from commander to standard
>>94245192NOOOOOOOOOOONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFUCK YOU WOTCFUCK YOU CUMMANDERFUCK YOU HASBROOOOOOOOOOO
>>94245216its a spectrum, you have shit like ASScreed cards and then TOR.>tfw TOR type cards are standard legal, and literally warp every format from standard to vintage.
>>94245209>>94245192I suppose the small mercy is that this means they'll be designed for a Standard powerlevel and may not be a Modern Horizons-tier mess for other formats.
AHAHAHAHA
>>94245192this is fakepls be fake
>>94245192Fuck
>>94245192>We want to invest in the magic IPWhile also destroying it with shitty crossovers.
>>94245192IT BEGINS
>>94245224And I'm done with this game.
>>94245240hahahaaa
>>94245192at least now I can enjoy the final fantasy setnot paypigging a set if it's only for ancient formats
>>94245242>Destroying your own brand for profit the Hasbro way, just wait until the Transformers and horse sets come out.
>>94245242so this is just wotc giving up on their IP because it too much work to make intestine setting and would rather rely on exterior IP to keep their game afloat
>>94245192It's so over i don't know where to begin
>>94245255>>94245258End of Evangelion!?
>>94245192standardbros? pioneerbros? our response?
>EOE setFinally, fractured foil Asuka.
>>94245267No, Edge of Extinction
>>94245261it turns out the fortnite model makes a lot of money
>>94245271terrible name for the Wacky Races set
>>94245272>our response?We quit the format, it's over.
>Kikes get control of Commander directly so they no longer need to print Commandershit into Legacy>They turn around and print it into Standard
>>94245288>KaladeshOkay, so we called that one.
>>94245192STANDARD IS FUCKAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
>>94245281I don't think that will be good for the long run of MtGFortnite is rather different in that regard
>>94245292I mean that was kind of obvious
I can't believe I'v waited for this gay shit for a full year and some
>>94245272It's fucking over
>>94245271>Aetherdrift
>>94245291>MBTis it time to move to ygo?
Chandra's the fucking walker for the set, Tezz-bros we're so done.
So this is pretty obviously so they can market Arena with the UB sets right?
>>94245292feel proud for calling Amonkhet
>>94245272I'm burning my cards as we speakwhat a joke of a company
>>94245192I was in the middle of building a deck on Arena and this has just sucked all the wind out of me. I don't even want to bother playing fake Magic anymore, nevermind paper Magic. There's zero chance I'm going to ever play Magic ever again post-2024. This is the actual final nail in the coffin for me.
>the set symbolKILL ME
Standard and Pioneer bros... The last thing fun to play in this shit game...IS FUCKING OVER.THE END IS HERE AND MODERN AND COMMANDER PLAYERS WERE THE CAUSE.
>>94245310CHANDRA ON MOTORCYCLES
>>94245316Later.
>>94245310What the fuck is that League of Legends ass looking hovercycle?
>>94245316barf
>>94245305Reynolds can still do good work at least wotc having made him a shitter artist through the power of their own density
they kill standard
Our boy was desparked.
>>94245316
I'm genuinely selling out of this game. I'm done.
>>94245334Please show the new Narset
AHAHAHA I CAN'T BELIEVE I RETURNED TO STANDARD JUST IN TIME FOR THIS AHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD...I should have never returned.
>>94245316What the fuck? Wasn't it the Mardu who respected the speed of dragons? The Sultai cared about cunning or something like that.
>>94245329Also interesting that it seems they're NOT using the "this creature" templating for legendaries, maybe?
STOP STOP STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MAKE THIS DOGSHIT STOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>94245337>As we looked into breathing new life into Tarkir, we knew we wanted to continue fleshing out the three-color clans. We worked with cultural consultants for each clan, ensuring fans have more depth to dive into. No Narset yet, but a cutie nonehtless.
I hope they make Naruto and DBZ sets
>>94245329mtg is getting in on the combat wheel chair craze I see
Ugin's the Tarkir walker, seems.
>>94245334klanbros, we lost, Tarkir is another generic dragonlord set...
standard is dead
>>94245359>>94245363Wait who's watching The Dragon Who Must Not Be Named?
>No Salvation from UB anymoreaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYou did it Hasbro you are kicking me out bunch of motherfuckers
>>94245364>>94245352>three-color clans
>>94245360He's always had that thing, and he's not a fighter.
Local man who ruined everything.
>>94245359Is Ulgin no longer babysitting Nicol Bolas then?
>>94245359>>94245363I thought Ugin was in gay Bolas jail
>>94244358>>94244903Why do you keep whining about Arena when no one is talking about it?Like there are moments where it's mentioned, but then you wait for a point at which no one is currently talking about it and bring it up all over again.Do you have brain damage?
>>94245376My Farking Timmy Hero
>>94245378>>94245377>>94245370Probably something we'll get answers on. Not unreasonable chance Jace broke Bolas out or something stupid.
>>94245376I see he doesn't shave his armpits
So when do the pigs finally lift their head from the troughs and realize the slop doesn't even taste good anymore
damn I just paypigged the game yesterday because I thought it was going to comfy flavorful magic with Foundations and it was a trick
>>94245316Is this a common or an uncommon?
>>94245376for a moment i though he was holding a raceflag and the card was from deathrace set.
>>94245329What the fuck happened?
>>94245376I mean, who wouldn't do it in their place? Dragons are too cool to not have them.Or maybe I'm just a scaly and a slave to Bad Dragon.
>Kill Pioneer>Then Kill everything else with just a snapTruly Marvel UB incoming , ThanosWOTC just killed everything
FF releases on June 13th. There's a whole video they did.https://x.com/wizards_magic/status/1849914359306179005
>>94245361cool, it's some unholy abomination child of ranger of eos, trinket mage, and whatever the enchantment version would be
>>94245412Lots of Japanese artists, that's good
>they spent all that time slowly reviving Standard just to fucking murder it for short-term profitsI'm so fucking sad.
>>94244743>>94245359>>94245363>>94245370>>94245391Gay Bolas is canon now.
Sephie looking a bit TOO pretty-boy here.
>>94245316>the brood aspires to become speed itself
>Bloomburrow already trapped in the worst Standard ever>this shit
>>94245419that almost looks AI made
>>94245412>https://x.com/wizards_magic/status/1849914359306179005EMET BROS WE SO FUCKING WON
>>94245412>Emet SelchUgh
>>94245397Corner says U
Okay, okay, the initial rage has died a little and now I'm thinking if it would be viable to keep playing standard and NOT using any UB cards even if it makes my deck weaker.And I hope everyone else will do it too and that will show wotc that magic sets are more popular than UB sets... Probably?
>>94245433No it doesn't you retarded nigger learn to say you don't like art instead of saying it's AI
>>94245419Looks AI as fuck
>zero FF cards revealedlol
>>94245433>>94245446That's just Chinese art.
>>94245440Give up now we got this announcement going into Marvel it's an absolute joke to think this shit won't be pushed harder than LTR which is STILL ruining Modern harder than MH3.
>>94245412>Emetoh
>>94245448>Science-fantasyGood to see they're leaning on that at least, rather than it just being sci-fi.
>>94245440I have a better idea:I just stop giving money to this retards so they fucking learn you can't kill a whole game just for short-term profits and casual crew.
>>94245443the item on his waist is asymmetrical and the fact his leather belts on chest look rather odd suggest AI
>>94245440Why would you even try? It's gonna sell like hot cakes and your boycotting will mean nothing. It's time to just walk away.
>>94245440>magic sets are more popular than UB setsWasn't LOTR the best selling set of all time?
>>94245436>>94245456>One of the most popular villains from one of their biggest games gets a cardYou can't be surprised.
>>94245460Kamigawa was also science fantasy this doesn't mean anything.
>>94245412>Tidus and Yuna>Actual JAP artistsYeah Im thinking sovl and 100% respectful to the IP.
Standard Legal by the way.
>>94245460how else could they sell dragons to timmy edh players if the set was just sci-fi?
Tezzert?I thought he was black, not white.
So the result of this is that everyone is going to stop playing sanctioned events and switch to preFIRE Modern/Legacy, and Premordern, right?Right?
>>94245448so this is the much rumoured Space-set thenwell wotc will no doubt fuck it up like they did the spelljammer book last year
>>94245451I wouldn't be surprised if Chinese art is increasingly just touched up AI these days.
>>94245468Weird outfit, but weird in a "neat sci-fi" way at least. I can see it working, depending on other arts.
>>94245440so fast into the bargaining stage? soon you are entering depression anon...
>>94245480ask narset what race/gender/color she is, every time she is depicted, she seems to change
>>94245468looks like Endless Space but shitter
lorwyn first set 2026
>>94245478So sick of this fucking hero being shoved into everything
>>94245480>Tezz is in space, not the raceSure, fuck it, he fits that too. Let him be Palpatine.
>>94245494So what's the last UB set going to be?
>>94245494>return to llorwyn pushed to 2026 to make room for UBI hate it
>>94245379arena and standard are interchangeable and half the thread is talking about standard
>>94245466Bitch have you ever seen sephiroth? That's just his design.
>>94245494>over 3 months of foundations limitedkill me
>>94245359>gay bolasposter is so influential he made this canonholy fucking shit I kneel....
>>94245480He changes from white to indian depending on what they want him to be.
>>94245494>Final Fantasy>Spider-man>In my fucking Magic gameWell this is enough i just can't deal with this anymore.
>>94245494UUB is "unannounced Universes Beyond", so it seems we're getting 3 and 3 each year going forward. Bleh.
>>94245504star trek (probably)
Holy fucking shit, this game will crash and burn in five years time and it will be glorious.
>>94245494>UUB>unlimited universes beyond, where all sets become UB
>>94245508he way more symmetrical in design in your pic than in the image wotc showed
>>94245474I'm not surprised, I just hate the character
>>94245494>last "Magic" Magic set in 2025 will be released on the first day of August>it's all UB shit till 2026 since thenlollmao even
>>94245466So yes, a retarded nigger.
>>94245504I hope it's Magic the Gathering
>>94245494>>94245519>What's your plan now Hasbro?>Crashing this game... WITH NO SURVIVORS!!!
I don't even mind the UB sets being Standard-legal as much as I mind it shifting to 50/50 UB/non-UB.
>>94245535It's going to sell more than ever for a few years until people get burned out on the constant crossovers. The only hope for death coming any time soon is if they find a way to break the EDH whales.
I dont care as long as limited is still good.
>>94245334>can't say "Tribal" anymore>can say "Clan"Seems problematic baka
Now I can have anime girls llanowar elves AND elvish mystic
Anyway, Kaito's Foundations card.
Also Chandra's DFT card (without rules text). Unless the Foundations one is a reprint, this means there will be 21 fucking Chandras.
There is no way this is sustainable. At some point the people who got into MTG for their favorite franchise will move on and there will not be enough franchiseshit left for new recruits. This might actually be the thing that will kill Magic.
>>94245549ugh is this treatment really going to be a thing?
>>94245539You're going to mind when The Shockmobile breaks the game and they can't ban it because of contracts.
>>94245545>people get burned out on the constant crossoversI don't think that this will happen, I think was is more likely to happen is they run out of popular IP's and have to go for C-list properties.Imagin if instead of spiderman, it was blue beetle or someone else no one cares about.
>>94245550They're still trying to make planswalkers work in commander?
>>94245567did you miss the last set
>>94245539I wouldn't mind UB being Standard Legal if the sets were halfway decent fantasy properties like Dark Souls or LoTRInstead we're getting Final Fantasy (ironically barely a fantasy setting anymore) and fucking SPOODER MCMOODER
Universes Beyond Genshin Impact will be inevitable I fear.
>>94245549>mythic rare llanowar elvesthe kikes are printing money with arena at this point
Seems like a great time to move over to F&B, a game made by a straight white male who is married with a daughter.
>>94245573what do you mean? that has nothing to do with edh
>>94245498It a Vodyani but ruined by having a human head.
>>94245564I hope so.Is pretty evident Hasbro at this point is milking this fucking game so i really hope pigs wake up and this fucking game dies.At least you had formats to run away from the meme of what game are you playing? Now everything will be polluted and is trash.
Apparently from Innistrad Remastered onward, every set will have a "Headliner", which'll be a Serialised card variant with a unique look, etc. For Innistrad Remastered it'll be Edgar Markov, and they showed a rules-less version of DFT's one.
>we want the pokemon audience
>>94245569they will literally do a Return to Spiderman set in 10 years when they'll run out of sexy IPs (remember they need only 3 a year)
>>94245581>a game made by a straight white male who is married with a daughter.nosewater is a straight white male who has like three daughters
>>94245576yeah, that's what I mean. Normally treatments like this are just limited to one set
>>94245550lol at all the people screaming "KAITO HAS TO BE UB!"
holy waifu those elves
>>94245562>spark hunteryeye bolas lives
>>94245595>yeah, that's what I mean. Normally treatments like this are just limited to one setyea that's why I was asking if you missed the newsthe JP showcase thing is gonna be in every setthey announced this when they announced duskmourn
>>94245597The comic was right.
>>94245567yes, it was very popular in DSK
Show me your balls wotc, do fucking Yugioh next.
>>94245589>Legendary Artifact Planeswalker - EquipmentThey're just shitposting at this point
>>94245597
>>94245601No, the prize of the race is the Aetherspark >>94245589 which seems to be some sort of synthetic or captured spark, and I guess the idea is Chandra wants it to give Nissa her spark back. Jace will probably want it for Vraska, and I dunno maybe... Fucking... Rowan wants it because she's a bitch.
wow very depressing news todayI need a new hobby now
>>94245494>>94245597
>>94245589>Legendary Artifact Planeswalker - EquipmentI'm dreaming and it's unfortunately a nightmare
>>94245597I can't tell if this is real or a shitpost
>>94245539Wait until WotC puts UB characters inside regular magic IP sets. You are going to love them.
This is a bad dream. Just a bad dream. I just need to wake up and it all will be over...
>>94245597you can't hurt me anymore
is time to leave this hobby, pioneer dying was just the first trumpet, is time to run away from this burning train.
>>94245617>Even the cockgobblers in the scryfall discord are "taking a break" because they're seething so hard over this
Can't wake up.
>wanted to know what awesome cards standard gets next month>entire game destroyed within 60 min
>>94245597Hahahahahahahahahahahaha it's over
>>94245192Oh fuck
>1 UB thing a year>Then 2>Now 3, removing one of the normal standard setsHow long until 100% of mtg is ub?
>foundations is standard legal for so long not because of a conscious design decision but because they want to save design resources for UB sets
Alright, how is YGO doing nowadays?
>>94245654at this rate three years
>>94245656Oh my fucking god that's literally spot on
>>94245660as a game? horrendouslyeverything else? finesame as ever
>>94245656it's because they want people to transition from commander to standard and it makes it easier when 90% of your deck archetype is a fixed card pool
take the premodern pill
Even Reddit is taking this announcement poorly, I'm surprised.
>>94245656This sounds very plausible
How are hasbro's stock prices doing right now?
I am so glad I'm a Cube chad. I put cards into a box. I take cards out of a box. No need for UB.
I can't imagine paypigging 6 funcopop crossover sets per year
>>94245679Down, which is why they've been doing this in the first place.
>>94245674Reddit's hated UB all the time.
>>94245656
>>94245656If we didn't have Foundations it'd be 7 sets a year.
This is funny af not gonna lie
>>94245679Slightly up today but still down overall, these sets were all planned in 2021 to 2022 meaning they were planned during the post covid resurgence.Which is funny since twice now the stock has dropped back down near covid levels and it's likely to do it again.
magine a pro tour being dominated by Squidward turbo, Mary Jane Control and Cloud Aggro.
>>94245702Yeah I dunno why this is making people shit their pants and cry. It's a Secret Lair, not a whole fucking set.
As bad as this all looks now it's going to get much worse
>>94245494>Lorwyn pushed out for Spider-manCalling it now, there won't be a lore team within the next five years. It'll all be UB and reprints.
>>94245656I want Hasbro to crash so bad bros... Please leave this game i love alone greedy corporate faggots...
So what does a year look like now?3 UB sets1 made for modern/commander set1 regular mtg set
okay but when is the vintage cube live event does anyone know
>>94245685>Destroying our brands for short term profit has been a disaster>Better destroy our biggest brand for a lot of short term profitClassic
>>94245707>He's not playing Mr. Krabs turbomillbaka senpai
>>94245567I like it, it doesn't look like Magic, so I can pretend I'm not playing this stupid fucking jew game
>>94245712I do not doubt it
>>94245721I think right now it's 3 mtg, 3 ub, and then extra (mh3, etc)
>>94245712Peace was never an option since The One Ring.
s-so when UB sets rotate out of standard?haha...
>>94245192>>94245316>>94245329It's so fucking over!HASBRO!BANKRUPT!NOW!
Why the fuck did Wizards sell themselves to Hazbro?In another timeline they could be the Valve of the nerd hobby sphere by now
>>94245711Because this is Universes Beyond, like The Walking Dead. Meaning it will be Standard legal.
>>94245711Fuck, that's real?
>>94245711All UBs are standard legal now chud
>tfw i dont care about most UB shit except maybe the anime stuffIt hurts
>>94245756WOTC love what Hasbro is doing. They've wanted to do it forever.
>>94245763they should make a sexy black female rapper secret lair (megan thee stallion, nicki minaj, etc.)
Haven't bothered with Magic since 2019.See SpongebobSee Final Fantasy...???Is this what milking the IP do death looks like?
>>94245768You can proxy anime shit to your hearts content, why the fuck would you ever buy anything of this?
https://x.com/wizards_magic/status/1849918530197782862Spongebob tweet on their official account. I had my doubts because the promo image had some pixelation which made it look like some guy had made it but I guess QC doesnt matter here either.
>>94245768gonna be using that new llanowar elves in my decks (no I'm not giving jotc money lmao)
>>94245724People keep making the comparison to Fortnite, but that's not quite accurate. Fortnite still gets updates on mechanics and gameplay. Hasbro wants Magic to be Monopoly, where they don't spend any resources on updating the game, they just sell reskins to collectors and normies who don't know any board games.
>>94245278Based fellow GW1 chad. I miss EoE bomb.
>>94245759That's not what it means at all, no.
>"He traded sand for skins, skins for gold, gold for life. In the end, he traded life for sand."
>>94245765>All UB SETS will be Standard legalSecret Lairs are not sets.
>>94245711>>94245759>>94245765Secret Lairs are not UB, they will print basic lands with spongebob art and a crabby patty food token
The hype will inevitably die at some point at which they will have a ton of overprinted product that won't move and Magic will collapse as a result. We thought it was going to be Maro who would kill the game, turns out it was some dude literally named Chris Cocks.
>>94245806They fired the guy who suggested UB a few years ago, funnily
>>94245787No shit, my older brother was in a guild that would sabotage the Suxons in alliance battles by suiciding the whole team via EoE at the start of the round. I think they might've been the ones responsible for Anet changing it so that you couldn't do it anymore.
All that's left is a crossover with some chinkshit gacha game.
>>94245793
why is this happening
>>94245806This UB shit will definetely kill this game.
>>94245801Why are you coping? Just accept that Spongebob will have his own Magic card in the near future.
>>94245816Genshin impact UB when?
>>94245822line must go up
>>94245822you stopped believing in God. this is his backhand
>>94245801>It retroactively also became part of the Universes Beyond product line. TWD Secret Lair is UB.
Further DFT artwork showing Amonkhet, so I guess that's a confirmed plane for it. Kaladesh, Amonkhet and... Still dunno number 3. Probably Vryn, because if not now, when.
>>94245822See >>94245793
>>94245826I'm not coping I think its funny
Someone needs to start working on hosting MTG leagues with no UB cards. Possibly no cards after Bloomburrow (or Duskmourn, depending)It doesn't matter if it starts small, it'll have to start somewhere
>>94245092>At least 2029Wtf is their problem, they can't even commit to a rotation of this?
>>94245834Only UB sets going forward from FF onwards will be Standard legal. I know Magic players don't read but holy fuck Rick is not gonna be in Standard.
>>94245822Hasbro is floundering, Magic is its (or specifically its shareholders) sole lifejacket.
>>94245822Commander and Modern faggots doomed us.If you want to blame someone you should blame those groups of people.
>>94245660Dragons!!!
>>94245852mtg and monopoly go
>>94245830>Becomes big in chinkland>At the cost of the entire IPI fucking hate this timeline.
>>94245851No, but the Spongebob will, is my point.
>>94245844People have already tried that with making a modern format without horizons sets, and it always goes the same way, "Without official WotC support, it never works"
>>94245844>It doesn't matter if it starts small, it'll have to start somewherethe problem with these formats is never the starting part, it's the cultivating and managing a loyal community part
i refuse to touch a single sephiroth or peter parker card. simple as that.even if i play pre-modern or stop playing at all i refuse to eat that shit.
>>94245851oh thank godi dont want to Play agaist the one ring ever again
>>94245806>We thought it was going to be Maro who would kill the gameNo, the mouth breathers who sperg out at any set that isn't literally a card for card reprint of OG Ravnica might've thought that. Maro is a slimy businessman, but he's a good businessman. There's a reason he's been kept on the team for so long, and why he's chosen to stay for so long.
Pioneer is death lol
>>94245778>>94245774We are coming to you live from #MCVegas for the 'The Foundations of Magic’s Next Era' with a look at the next year of Magic! Sharing exciting previews and information on the sets coming in 2025.https://x.com/wizards_magic/status/1849918530197782862WTF is my MTG doing?
>>94245863No it won't. They're not gonna break Secret Lair rules for a fucking Sponge Bob thing.
Alright give it to me bros. I don't mind the crossover shit, is standard going to be good?
>>94245192bruh
>>94245822>Fallout and Warhammer cooomander decks do well>LotR does incredibly wellWhat did you think they were gonna do?
>>94245852>can't stop filling your boat with rocks causing it to sink>can't stop filling your pockets with rocks causing you to sink>you have one last life jacket keeping your head above the water>you compulsively start filling it with rocks
standard about to start in worlds and now i dont even want to watch because of that ub announcement
>>94245822The modern horror set didn't end magic so they're upping the ante.
>>94245192Over status: it's
>>94245886It depends on what Foundations and DFT do, to be honest. DSK has it on shaky ground already.
I ATTACK WITH SPONGEBOB
>>94245886Planning to return on Foundations btw
>>94245885But I just told you they made TWD Secret Lair UB retroactively.And they just announced all UB will be legal everywhere.
>>94245851Their announcement has muddled the issue. You will have to deal with even more people getting disqualified at FNM because WotC has made an even bigger mess of format legality.
>>94245886They're absolutely going to print an The One Ring tier card for standard.
>>94245886Well Standard isn't good now and there's no particular reason to believe it's going to magically get better.So no.
>>94245886Maybe, he can only hoPe UB sets for standard are weak sets
>>94245816ZZZ card where it's a Jane version of Ink-Eyes
>>94245894The meme unironically became real.Mark tried his hard and finally like a good villain, achieved his objective.
>>94245902They announced all Universes Beyond SETS going forward will be. Is that fucking clarifying information too hard to parse?
>>94244344Where is this gif from?
>>94245890hasbro hasn't been successful outside of wotc for agesno one fucking cares about monopoly anymore outside of some weird mobile game
There's an article up about the legality thing, if people are curious.https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/aligning-the-universes-making-all-our-sets-legal-in-all-our-formats
>>94245899I RESPOND WITH "BEAM ME UP SCOTTY" AND RETURN HIM BACK TO YOUR HAND
>>94245923Neural Cloud gacha game, so not for everyone
>>94245919All UB sets being released post-2024 are STD legal. Spongebob is releasing in 2025.
>>94245929>Veteran players should appreciate a reduction in "straight-to-Modern" sets that have created more churn in that format than typical sets do.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>94245886Yes, you will enjoy a lot casting your Cloud, attacking with your Green Goblin equipped with your Masamune and tapping your Mary Jane for mana to activate Peter Parker ability that puts a stun counter on enemy creature.Peak Magic the Gathering Experience :)))))
>>94245939And Spongebob is a FUCKING SECRET LAIR WHICH IS NOT A GODDAMN SET.
there's a 0% chance we're getting mechanically unique spongebob cards
>>94245946Secret Lair is UB and UB is legal in all formats.
>look at the premodern discord to see if they're laughing>there's not even a mention of this shit at all
>>94245941fucking fine, I didn't notice "sets"
>>94245941Read >>94245929 specifically the line that's bolded in the third paragraph.>starting in 2025, new Universes Beyond booster sets will be legal in all Constructed formats>booster sets>setsSecret Lairs are not fucking sets.
Does Weiss Schwarz have its own IP or is it 100% crossover.It'd be really funny if it had some mtg crossover thing.
>>94245929So it was Modern players fault we're getting Standard UB.
>>94245956Its not you absolute retard
>>94245954>there's a 0% chance we're getting mechanically unique spongebob cards>There's a 0% chance we're getting mechanically unique TWD cards>LOTR>Ass creed>Marvel>Spiderman>Final fantasy>But spongebob? That's too far
>>94245966It is
>>94245838>VRYN VRYYYNNNNalready sounds like car noise
>>94245969But it's fucking SPONGEBOB. I refuse to believe it.
>>94245969yes, spongebob is too far
>>94245975You WILL enjoy your Mr. Krabs turbomill
How will you ruin Magic IP?Hard mode: UB only
>>94245975Why? Why do think that's beyond WotC? Even now, do you still cling to some twisted shred of faith in them?
You're all mad now but the long game is clearly to kill magic and then reboot alpha and print reboot sets for another thirty years, so you're to get MUCH angrier before this ends
Anyway the Foundations panel is starting. Nothing shown yet, just some talk about how it's meant for new players to have some cards to get to grips with.
>>94245919They went from "All UB cards are legal in Modern/Legacy/Commander" to "All UB set cards are legal everywhere", it's a small distinction, and it's not always obvious that a card is from a secret lair and not a proper set. Now you have to memorize even more information just to figure out what you are and aren't allowed to play. I'm looking forward to the inevitable fuckup where they put something like Skullclamp in a UB set because it was designed before the legality decision.
>>94245975You best start believing in it.
All they need is one flop and it will all come crashing down. Say if they want to make a Star Wars set focused on the sequels or some other tranny shit that most nerds don't care about.
>>94245999AC set already flopped
>>94245961Weiß Schwarz, is all cross overs, this mainly working JPN because there is only like 1 or 2 companies that control most the anime IP's making it relatively easy for them to get most anime shows.The problem is that for most of the world (US), there are dozens of IP holders that all can fuck over an IP, and kill a set from coming out outside of JPN
>>94245997>Lightning is one of the first things shownFucking typical.
>>94245985>You're all mad now>you're to get MUCH angrier before this endsI'm not even mad anymore, but this is the final nail, i can't accept anymore bullshit.
>>94245996They've said that all the future UB sets were designed with Standard legality known well in advance.
>>94246006It sold ok for what it was, it just had no legs, people bought all they wanted the first week then had no reason to open more.
>>94245997>This shit in StandardDIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>94245997Not a reprint I'd have thought to see, but if there's any card name they kinda fucked up using so early it's that one.
>>94246017The story of Nadu shows exactly how much that knowledge is worth.
>>94245999AC was already a flop and despite Wizards making record profits Hasbro keeps making cuts and their stock price keeps falling, it's already 'over.'The death will be long and protracted but it has already begun.
>>94246006to me it flopped because you couldn't draft it
>>94246006AC flopped because it was aftermath and they couldn't fix it in time to make it not aftermath
>>94245997>Together Forever>story ends with him leaving her and fading from existence because he was just a sentient figment of dead people's imagination
Some FDN cards. Dunno what's new here I can't remember every card name.
>>94245999>>94246006I bet the Ass Creed flop was what drove them to make UB sets standard legal.
CARDGAMES ON MOTORCYCLES
>>94246017Sure, Nosewater i feel so glad now i can fullfill my dream of playing with Cloud and Venom in my fucking Magic: The Gathering card game... But you respected Standard powerlevel uh?
I'm not reading the thread, what do I think about UB in standard?
>>94246041>archdruid in pioneersweet
>>94246040Together Forever in a sentimental sense, not a literal sense.
AC flopped because sincerely nobody gives a shit about AC anymore
>>94245516I can't wait to see what it is. The stakes are pretty high with FF an Spider-man sets, but I trust WotC with finding an IP that makes me hate their guts even more.
>>94246051I don't think you care at all because you don't actually play Magic.
>>94246023Yes, and that's a flop.
>>94246041Archdruid is nice to see, I guess
>>94246068Of course I do, I draft every week.
>>94246064MLP of course, Hasbro needed to save some of its money after Disney dicked them down.
>>94246041rumao elves in pioneer
Hasbro employee here. What would be some IPs you'd love to see as a UB set?
>>94246041another reprint of archdruid is niceand pridemate is an ok timmy's first white deck card
>>94246041>it's a tribal setfuck that, we don't need 5 years of cats and pirates and wizards
>>94246041>>94246082FUCKING FINALLY. Archdruid was the last piece to run elves in Pioneer. Circle of Dreams Druid simply does not compare at all
>>94246086tribal is one of the best things in mtg though
It's time to duel
>>94245938>tfw no AI angel wife with a literal goddamn chest hole
>>94246078>#707Just how fucking many cards are in this set???
>>94246084I would like you to leave Magic alone dear Hasbro
>>94246086We already knew it was gonna be a tribal setIt was the first sign that Magic was gonna be fucking dead
>>94246094Darksteel, my boi, your home finally.
>>94246093go back to yugioh
>>94246084The ones you wouldn't use because they are not popular enough.
>>94246094>goggles at mythicoof, wasn't worth it the first time.
>>94246086I think it's just a small subtheme to help new players out, and works with the Jumpstart thing.
>>94246107nah yugioh as a game is fucking aidswhich is sad because tribal is cool but I can't even begin to take yugioh seriously as a game
>>94246094uuuuh Ball lightning? In Pioneer? Sweet.
>>94246118Now you have my attention
>>94246118Oh hey they actually reprinted one of the deal with the devil cards
>>94246118Pact is cool but why Harmless Offering? That's like the most Commander card that's ever commandered
>>94246118>This shit in Standardlollmao even.
>>94246118Ah, that was the two-card combo Mark mentioned. This is in the Starter Collection, by the way, which is a 350+ card purchas, I think all reprints. It's still Standard legal.
>>94246126So you can give them the pact. What kind of question is this?
>>94246094What's with the reminder text? I thought they ditched it.
>>94246126look a few inches to the left, anon
>>94246094>that flavor text on gogglesAlmost avacyn's collar tier bad.
>>94246129Fuck me I guess
>>94246118Am I supposed to be offended that they're spoon feeding me this combo? I'm numb after the UB thing, so I'm not sure.
100% cards that are on Arena so far. I told you the intention was to lean into that.
Can I get a QRD on the Foundation shit and why everyone is going apeshit?
>>94246133This is in the Beginner Box, specifically made to teach newer players.
poor gruulbro :(
>>94246118Lame art for Demonic PactIs Aleksi Briclot on WotC's shitlist too?
>>94246144standard legal forever
>>94246126It's the fucken combo, anon.
>>94246118>5 years of this in StandardCool but kinda weird
>>942461442025-onwards, there'll be 6 full sets a year, all Standard legal, half of which will be Universes Beyond.
>>94246138There's a retard in here that looked at that image and didn't even get it>>94246144It's a Standard set that's going to stick around for like 7 years or something. People aren't going apeshit over FDN, they're going apeshit over WOTC deciding that all the crossover sets like Marvel and Final Fantasy will be legal in all formats starting next year.
>>94246094>Darksteel ColossusTHAT'S MY SON
>>94246129Disenchant gets powercrept by every new set that releases lmao what?
>>94246144>MSRP back>Not going to rotate through at least 2029>Universes Beyond cards, starting with Final Fantasy and then Spiderman, are legal in Standard and Pioneer
AaahhhhhhhhAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
well i will enjoy the last good year of magic with this foundations stuff
>>94246144It's not foundations, it's>6 standard legal sets per year now>Half of every set is going to be universes beyond, starting with final fantasy and spiderman>Spongebob secret lair
>>94246152>white doesn't get to hate other colorsUh oh guys I'm noticing
>>94246141>ball lightning>pyromancer's goggles>darksteel colossus
>>94246150it's the Arena art
>>94246152>color hosersI thought they decided not to do that any more. Why the change?
>>94246174All in Arena
unironically will we get shounen anime in 2026? I hope so. I hate american capeshit
>>94246175>Teachings in StandardHuh. I mean, won't be ANYTHING, but still.
>>94246144here>>94245656
>You will play standard/pioneer>You will buy capeshit to stay competitive
>>94245433>>94245446You are clearly not familiar with the typical Chinese digital artist artstyle
Image replies all used up but the theroes scry lands are here at rare.
>>94246181makes it easier for new players to build sideboards
>>94246191There's still one unannounced UB set for 2025, it could well be Dragon Ball.
>>94246198I WILL play Cube exclusively
>>94246200>surveil lands but worseFoundations is a fucking disaster lmao
>>94245969Those are all properties geared towards teens and (young) adults. There's absolutely no way they do spongebob for another year or two>>94246084>exiles itselfkino
>>94246207>Goku is randomly black because skin color doesn't matter
10/10 textless Gigantosaurus
>>94246210retard
>>94246218pay rent
>>94246215>Those are all properties geared towards teens and (young) adults. There's absolutely no way they do spongebob for another year or twoanon who the fuck do you think the market for spongebob is?It's late 20s-early 30s people who grew up on spongebob
>>94246207>goku is now black to appeal to african americans>no black people, the biggest fanbase for dragon ball in the west, agree with this because they grew up with goku being white/asian>the only people celebrating it are influencer shills
>>94246218>Getting mad at things that won't happen
>>94246218this is what I'm scared ofhopefully they respect japanese people enough but probably worshipping blacks overrides even that
>>94246218Goku is already asian
Image limit was hit, but FDN will have textless Gigantosaurus. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaxHCPlaAAARqqc?format=jpg&name=large
What are the chances that FF and Spider-man were designed with a modern power level in mind and the standard legality was something Hasbro forced last minute so they'll completely rape standard for the three whole years they're legal
>>94246225>rentingNah nigger, I bought a house.
>>94246238They don't need to worry about japanese people.They need to worry about the cartels.
Anyway the panel's onto the actual main Foundations set now. With this line that rings hollow after recent announcements.>The goal when designing #MTGFoundations was "what if this set was named Magic: The Gathering? What would that look like?" >It looks like a cornerstone set meant to showcase how awesome Magic is and show the multiverse found within.
are they not showing sideboards or anything from worlds?
>>94246249They explicitly said that all the UB sets were designed with the legality change known well in advance. I'm going to assume that's true because they don't usually just outright fucking lie.
>double leylinekekekek
>>94246218https://files.catbox.moe/wkyf4s.png
>>94246268Yea we designed it to be standard legal, standard will just have a couple modern sets in it each year, don't worry.
>>94246257Basically corporate speak for "a soft reboot of the brand's identity".
>>94246257>>94246279It's just a fancy name for a Core Set.
>>94246268>FF set will be dogshit power level wiseI wasn't hoping for orcish bowmasters 2 but that's grim
>>94246218Goku is actually Brazilian.
>>94246268"Designed with it in mind" is vague enough to mean anything. If one guy was told it might happen, then it counts.
New bread?
There's a LOT of basic land arts in FDN, including Guay's lands. Also two lands for each colour showing a Planeswalker and a Legendary creature for that colour. For White it's Ajani and Giada, Blue is Kaito and Zimone, Black is Liliana and... They're not saying the creature, for some reason, Red is Chandra and Kellan, Green is Vivien and Loot.
>>94245929>Note that this means Bloomburrow and Duskmourn: House of Horror will both be legal for slightly shorter than originally anticipated.lol no biggie. more room for spongebob
No, you must eat the stale loaf.
>>94246296No, this is the last one. It's actually over.
>>94246302Oh, the Black one is Tinybones, they also gave him a new card. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaxI0olaAAI1IRZ?format=jpg&name=large
>>94246308Finally...Freedom!
>>94246296>>94246320>>94246320>>94246320
>>94246322FUCK
>>94246303>Secret Lair>Secret Lairs are not sets>All UB SETS will be Standard legal>Ergo Spongebob is not gonna be fucking Standard legalMagic players DO NOT know how to read.
>>94246322this train has NO BRAKES AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>94246322NOOOOOOO
>>94246330I mean the future full spongebob setalso that other guy was obviously baiting you
>>94246084I would kill you, given the chance
>>94246175>Teachings in PioneerNeat, shame the game is dead though
>Mad max set>but >>>>>>>noguns lol
>>94245127fat breast-plated tits
>>94245192Does this mean I can finally play Mario and Spongebob in standard casual Bo1 in Arena?
>>94245448Can't wait for more Ayy Lmaos
>>94245127wtf WotC brought back sexy bald angels?Foundations indeed
>>94246073As a Limited-only gamergod, I like UB in Standard because it means more Constructed shitters will be drafting UB sets so my winrate is going to climb a few %.
>>94245192Magic the Fortniting
>>94245545This. The crossover shit will lose steam and if the rest of Hasbro (that is bleeding money) won't pick up, they're fucked
