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WIP Secret Santa archives

>2024
https://imgur.com/a/g7MfJE5
>2023
https://imgur.com/a/e9QOmJJ
>2022
https://imgur.com/a/2OWxHpg
>2021
https://imgur.com/a/TKfeLxU
>2020
https://imgur.com/a/TeduVrJ
>2019
[REDACTED]
>2018
https://imgur.com/a/UWRYKEq
>2017
https://imgur.com/a/qS7PH
>2016
https://imgur.com/a/1fxhq

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What color would you prime a bunch of fleshy nurgle guys? I keep going back and forth on whether I want to do them with regular paint or contrasts. I'm not super skilled so contrasts might give a better result since I haven't done a lot of flesh/gore-y stuff before.

>>94655259
>What color would you prime a bunch of fleshy nurgle guys?
White if doing contrasts, white or grey if not.

>>94655266
Can you recommend a good white primer? Last time I tried to prime white with GW stuff it came out really gritty and ruined my models

>>94655272
>Can you recommend a good white primer?
I haven't found any really *good* ones, only *acceptable* ones, and Citadel's White Scar is on that list. It's slightly better than Rustoleum's 2X, which so far has proven to be the price/performance leader at about $6.00 a can.

Neither one of them are as smooth as Wraithbone, but Wraithbone isn't white, either.

Grange Over Sands anon, you apparently have to pick up your package and pay an import tax. I didn't know this, apologies

>>94655293
Could always just paint white over the primer as well

>>94655259
I use black, then pink or dark dark red and layer up caucasian flesh tones

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Question for people who have tried the slap chop method

does it combine well with stipple blending and or stipple weathering?

I could see
dry brush slap chop style
then stipple
then wash/speed paint turning out quite well

What's the deal with this trench crusade shit?
I've been away for a month and there's a general?
Looks like a woke version of 40k mordheim

>>94655626
the kickstarter with all the 'official' models just ended.

>>94655632
Looks like a christcuck themed turnip28

>>94655637
kinda, except its Christian in the same way evangelion is,
wow cool religion" while "war dehumanises everyone the same no matter who you believe in, also wow cool religion"

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>>94655259
Prime them grey or black if you want the colors to be washed out and weak. Just prime them black or grey anyway and them drybrush or airbrush them with your desired undecoat color. off-white work well in my experience. Yellow goes great to break up the blues, greens, pink, and browns you see on nurgle guys

>>94655373
>>94655373

I bought a pot back last summer and it was actually really good. it seperates in the pot but it never dried out and it's very nice once you shake it up. Coverage is good too. Duncan even said so in his black templar video.

>>94655626
they raised tons of money and crushed the kickstarter goal a few times over IIRC.
It doesn't look bad. Some of their demon-cult guys look cool but it doesn't have the cemented recognizable aesthetic that other IP's such as WoW or 40k have yet. Hopefully it can build one soon and set itself apart from the many many minor wargames and challenge GW. Maybe then James will finally stop their shameless ever-growing kikery.

they are going to sell printed models and the STL's themselves it seems.

>woke
how so? Just don't paint them black or something idk

>>94655293
>>94655272
vallejo grey primer (the one in the cylindrical bottle) is fine. It's a very light grey akin to grey seer but honestly just get a bottle of Vallejo model color white or your white paint of choice and drybrush it all over and you wont notice a difference.

Tamiya also makes a great light grey primer like grey seer.

>>94655610
you should have used the longhand for "slap-chop"
that is to say you should have explained in a full sentence what is essentially slap chop. The use of that word slap chop will attract people shitting on you cause the word reminds them of contrast paints and Sloptubers, which fall snugly under the category of things people hate in this general.

But to answer your question I really don't know. It honestly does not sound like anything radical or bold. I think if you watch some "grimdark" style tutorials you can see examples of people doing the same or similar things. It depends on your stipple color and your wash color and how they look over each other in relation to your basecoat

>>94655626
it's extremely woke, the whole community is full of people who left Warhammer because it had too many "chuds" and their official discord was banning people who they suspected of being 40k fans, they also get really mad if you bring up Aztecs cause someone suggested including tribes from the Americas in the game and have the Aztecs be on the side of hell and it's apparently really offensive to think that a society obsessed with human sacrifice might be on the evil side

>>94655703
Oh so it's like the opposite of battletech where all the chuds left warhammer because it was too woke.

>>94654723
What was he trying to warn me about, bros?

>>94655703
even the general here is woke, bans people and deletes any criticism

>>94653347
Was browsing the previous thread and noticed "future proofing" basing. I guess it is by getting paint that will most likely get a close enough version of itself if the manufacturer goes out of business.
What staple paints do you all know will be copied?
I know most Citadel paints are gonna be copied that's for sure, but I'm not sure about everything else.

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>>94655703
aztec sacrifice is cool and badass and their defining trait that sets them apart from other meso american/american tribes

the carved stone/astronomy theme is so cool that lizardmen appropriated it and it makes them cooler. "aztec dinos" are like a fantasy troupe now. Montezuma in Civ V is a warmongering conquest themed leader.

why are they trying to sanitize people who literally sacrificed captives atop structures and wore animal skins and chopped people up with obsidian swords?

t. ethnic mexican

>>94655843
It is verbotten to portray non-white people as "the bad guys" because you're racist if you do so.

>>94655864
>as "the bad guys"

The real issue is that people can't get their head around non-21st-century morals and assume stuff like >>94655843 described automatically as bad.

>>94655843
People hate on TC because chuds flooded their discord and they told them to fuck off. It's just butthurt that will be rationalized with whatever the flavor of the month is. I don't recall if TC has lore for the new world yet.

>>94655891
>I don't recall if TC has lore for the new world yet.

They dont. But they rather ban people instead of encourage them to make up their own stuff.

>>94655891
>rationalization
TC has "we love transgenders!!" in their discord description. I think it is you who are trying to rationalize a contrarian point of view.

>>94655833
I mean if you fancy historical coloured paints, AK interactive basically gives away the alternatives to them through its equivalences to Vallejo, and I think AMMO basically is AK paints so they're more or less the same. So as far as I can say, I think Vallejo's acrylic paints that come in droppers will be mimicked by other companies focused on delivering acrylic paints to scale modelers. Whereas for fantasy and wargaming they will be mimicking Citadel paints.

>>94655719
pretty much
>>94655799
yeah I tried talking in there once and they were all extremely defensive and whiney about anything that slightly deviated from what they considered acceptable

>>94655914
careful there, I got warnings and 1 day vacations for saying things like these in some generals

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>>94656005
which generals? like /wip/ where this whole discussion doesn't belong?

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>>94655843
yeah I couldn't understand what the justification for not having them was, kept seeing people say "they don't fit the aesthetic cause aztecs weren't technologically advanced enough for WW1 themed game" but neither are mediaeval crusaders hence why it's an alternate timeline so there is no reason why the Aztecs wouldn't advance aswell and their aesthetic can easily be adapted to WW1 level tech, had one of those idiots claiming the Aztecs were a nomadic people who lived in mud huts despite the fact the aztec capital had 4 times the population of London at the time it was found by the Spanish, and one retard who kept trying the stupid whataboutism argument of "if we have Aztecs why not have Vikings aswell" thinking it was a gotcha except the Viking culture had been almost completely absorbed into christiandom by the time the crusades started, the faggots in that thread couldn't even understand how linear time works lol

>>94655891
they have some lore but that's what started the whole shitshow because some people started to suggest lore ideas about how the rest of the world had developed since the gates of hell opened and the whiney wokies who ran the server got mad about it and started banning people and then just started mass banning anyone they suspected was a Warhammer fan

>>94655244
I been using a size 8 synthetic brush for painting mini and for some reason it way better than size 1,2,3. The tip is just feel better and durable than small size brushes, is this normal?

>>94656082
Yes. Bigger brushes have more body and hold onto moisture better. If it keeps the point well and you don't accidentally hit areas you didn't intend to, then using a bigger brush is perfectly valid

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Reposting. Happy with the results but it was a pain to paint with a brush. How much will an airbrush improve the experience on painting vehicles?

When I am in a pinch, can I paint without a primer?
I freshly ran all out.

>>94656023
>except the Viking culture had been almost completely absorbed into christiandom by the time the crusades started

Almost, but not completely. If someone wants to make up his Pagan/Viking warband, why not?
The Northern Crusades were a thing, but if a literal door to hell opened, focus of the christian nations clearly lay elsewhere but some remote "vikings".

And with a time gap, with constant war against hell, spanning from Crusades to essentially WW1, basically everything is possible.

>>94656102
Of course.

>>94656102
No, it is illegal

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>>94656105
Thank God, I thought I'd have to bore myself to death over Christmas.

>>94656108
Haha, nah bro I think I remember hearing it's a nightmare to do it. Paint not sticking, chipping off, all that

>four weeks to paint an army
>two weeks in
>find out schedules changed without anyone saying anything and I actually only have until Thursday
fuck
pray for me

>>94656111
it's not worth it anon. resist the urge

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>>94656142
>resist the urge
I'm going to take my chances. I have all the paints, the brushes, the mini, everything. I got fuck all to do except painting as well, but my can is dry.
I am going to paint a Stormcast Eternal, one of those with a hammer. I think, instead of Primer, I am going to use gold on the entire mini and then just paint and see how it goes. Or would you recommend rather painting it all in grey as a "primer" and then paint as normal or maybe white?
I got literally every color under the sun, except black.
I hope it sticks, even with primer it chips sometimes.

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Do you guys use somekind of clear coat on your finished works to make them more durable? Got inspired to paint the minis of my Space Hulk boardgame and want them to last.

>>94656190
I use Liquitex satin varnish, then Army Painter matte varnish on anything non metallic. Only time I've ever had paint come off in ~5 years of this combo was when a guy at the shop had just repaired a broken model and still had superglue he didn't notice on one finger.

>>94656190
I think anons here recommended "varnish" when I complained about my 6 hour paintjobs being ruined after subobtibal storage

>>94656190
don't tell me that's finished anon, you have something good going, fix the spill overs

I’ve got my eye on the armypainter fanatic skin tone paints. How are the lighter to darkest skin tone paints? Anything I should be aware of when using ap fanatic paints? I’ve only used Vallejo paints before the reformulation.

Is it fine to just use matte varnish or is gloss followed by matte a must? I play maybe 2 games a year so my models don't get damaged much.

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I AM GOING TO FDM PRINT A MINIATURE...
AND PAINT IT!

How sturdy is plaster for basing material?

>>94656353
if you don't touch it's ok, but if you crush or poke it it may crumble, not all kinds of plasters are made equal tho, you can also mix it with a fair amount of wood glue to make it rock solid

>>94656339
just matte is enough, the goobertown weirdo has a video on that

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ok i was too ambitious with the flag and realized that my ambition waaaay too far outreach my ability
but I gave it my some
made the wash myself and it seemed to work

What is the best glue for normal 40K models? Say Space Marine? Tamiya Thin or superglue?

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>>94656287
This is work in progress, ain't it? I might do some fixin' but these are my first "organic" minis, I've done few Battletech mechs before. And I still got rest of the squad and tyranids to improve on.

>>94656414
Holy hell, either that space marine is very short or that gene stealer is MASSIVE
(I am not very deep in the lore, admittedly)

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>>94656393
tamiya thin for plastic on plastic. You should always keep superglue on hand if you ever plan to use green stuff or resin bits/parts on your models. Superglue is also necessary to stick things onto your bases. Can't use tamiya plastic cement to put your space marine on a base covered in texture paint.

personally i use loctite glue and tamiya cement with the green cap. I've been printing a lot of shit too so superglue is my only option. once your tamiya bottle gets low, stick some leftover plastic and sprues in there and make sprue goo. comes in handy for filling gaps and holes. pic rel had it's mutant arm connected with sprue goo

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>>94656381
freehand looks fine. can't tell what it's supposed to be or mean. definitely paint over that wash in the folds. your wash was too thin it seems and flowed into the cracks and dried there. next time wipe all the excess of your brush like you would a glaze and paint it in carefully and thinly in the cracks. be patient as it will take a few passes and wait for it to dry before doing another pass. that's what i did for this wizard and it came out really nice I think

Do the same thing for the khaki folds above and under the belt. any brown earthshade/strong tone will work nicely. wash the chainmail and boots too.

>>94656414
>This is work in progress, ain't it?
that's on me, since you were asking for varnish advice I jumped to conclusions

those models are great, i would love to get the full space hulk termie squad but current prices are ridiculous

>>94656470
The models are great and they are all unique with dynamic poses. That's why I got interested.

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Hey Anon, finally got your package. I will start painting pretty soon after the holidays and being with my family!

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New Hampshire Anon, thank you very much for the Secret Santa gift! Lots of grass and plants, bit of paint and basing. I've been in a bit of a painting rut recently so I want to try that robot and try my hand at heavy weathering. Also really curious about the water and puddles, looks like I can mix colors with it to make a goo of some kind. Hope you have a Merry Christmas!

>>94655843
it’s been a constant thing online where some people claim the aztecs were good boys who dindu nuffin but then historians point out that the other mesoamerican civilizations actually allied with the spaniards because they hated the aztecs so much.

>>94655769
Peanuts in the food

>>94656791
Yes I got the message from Santa. I will live. The emperor protects me against peanuts.

>>94656843
>The emperor protects me against peanuts.
he also resembles one

The guy I do commissions for just bought me the villainy ink set, my only issue is I have absolutely no idea how to use enamel paints.
Any tips?

>>94655597
Little bit of dark purple wash in those blue swirls will make the details pop, same with the skin.

>>94656095
It turned out really well. An airbrush would help you knock out the main colors and general highlights in short order but youd still have some detail brushwork left of course.

>>94656137
Statue army it is!

>>94656190
Thin coat of ak gloss then one or two thin coats of ultra matte.

>>94656945
thanks anon, purple wash could definitely be good for getting some shade onto the face, I wasn't quite sure which way to go with that but purple sounds like a good move, I'm still trying to figure out what colour the armour should be, considering brass or black/dark blue and leave the red in the crevices

>>94656976
It's 2/3 painted, so I'm just gonna accept that the last third is primer only. I don't have enough time today to get more fully painted and varnished (painted isn't a problem, it's the "two stages of varnish at 24 hours of cure time each" that's a killer).
The other guy is using proxy models since it's a demo game, so the bar is lower.

>>94656583
Happy holidays and Merry Christmas Anon. Nice to see it arrived intact after an eternity.

>>94656673
Transparent inks in the water effects will tint it nicely.

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hard to tell on the picture because they’re still 60% white primer but i’ve been working on the skin here. Need to work on my paint thinning skills and highlighting. I think they’ll turn out decent though once i paint the rest if them

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Merry christmas everyone!
So did you start /WIP/ing on your gift, is it still under the tree, or are you scared that you got grinched?

Just primed those battletech dudes, now to choose whether I want to follow the booklet for the colors, or just go wild

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I painted the shoulder and the chainsword. I wish I had more time to paint.

Also, why does my white paint dry so fast even in the wet pallet? It get weird and fucks up my mixes. Is it becasue it's old? Are all whites like this? (It's vallejo model color)

Merry Christmas anons

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>>94657239
Looks like a good start, anon.

>>94657239
I already stripped some of the marines that I got, some are soaking with IPA as I write this, but proper work will start only after the holiday stuff is all done and I'm back at my own place.

>>94657259
That looks really good, do you have any tips for freehanding chapter markings?

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>>94657259
Nice.

>>94657339
>>94657387
Thanks anons.

I'm no one to give tips since this is only my second freehand, but something I learnt is to sketch with a medium gray. It's easier to build up from there and easier to cover if you fuck up.

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Now that the metal bastards are assembled and pinned, I am working on some kind of plinth base as I want this to be a bronze memorial statue.

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/WIP/, any ideas for old train layout terrain I got cheap that aren't just "Fallout"?

>>94656352
I did this with a termagant mini
Half if it looked pretty good, the other half was an incomprehensible mess lol. Used it to practice washes and glazes with for a bit, PLA apparently doesnt need priming

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Scot Anon, since it is christmas eve, I opened the package.
One of the models will work fine for a project I just picked up again, the other ones will find a place.
The Rocks look like hardcandy, I already learned not to chew those.

>>94656352
I would recommend epic scale marine vehicles. the actually don't look bad printed in FDM.

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>>94657546
You make it sound like fighting to defend a perfectly-manicured golf course is not justifiable.

>>94657580
>Irn-Bru Rock
I hope that's got actual Irn-Bru in there, that stuff is nice.

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>>94657239
Already finished this very cool skeleton my santa sent

>>94657782
>You make it sound like fighting to defend a perfectly-manicured golf course is not justifiable.
it looked good in old 40k pics, but even they didn't have 50's americana houses.

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Anyone ever bought any Crooked Dice minis? I'm considering buying their Threads knockoff Traffic Warden but I'm wary, since the casts look very weird. Can't tell if they just have really gloopy painters or what.

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What color should I prime Escher girls? I'm used to painting from black for my Orks. I want to do very vibrant colors but I'm worried that if I go full white I might not be able to cover it properly since I'm used to a very easy basecolor. I was considering zenithal white over black. What do you guys think?

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A splendid response to my vague wishlist Anon, thank you!
Some kitbashing and, godwilling, actual painting is in order.
Merry wipmas yall!

>>94658188
Zenithal is best of both worlds. I zenithal all of my models. I do brown > offwhite for things heavy in warm colors/skin tone and black > white for things cool toned

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i recently bought a kit of hh marines to use as basis for chosen. this is the first time i've really gotten into kitbashing and it is a total blast just finding every random extra bit and doodad you've had lying around to make your own dudes. i made 10 wysyg chosen and making it wysyg oriented made it even more fun. this dude is my favorite - i've since added a large amount of grenades to his waist to make him even more unhinged

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>>94658249
Sadly I only have black, sprue-esque grey, and white. So I'll just do white to black. I paint very bold and comic booky (like that pic I posted honestly; pic related also) so it'll hopefully work out.

>>94658188
>tentacle wrapping around her leg.
You just know.

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>>94657544
rummaging thought the ol bitz box decorating it up, add the obligatory skulls and bolts

>>94658337
fuck me that looks nice

If I'm more into collecting and not painting massive armies is an airbrush still "get one retard it will blown your mind" tier?

>>94658538
If you never paint, then no.
If you like to paint one or two minis to the best of your abilities, then yes. A good airbrush is a game changer as fuck.

>need a few disposable models to diagnose palette problems and test new techniques with before a new project
>nothing on hand
>go pick up one of the pre primed d&d blister packs
wow these models are garbage quality
at least I only paid a few bucks, and my skill is still a limiting factor

>>94657259
Scrub here but that looks fantastic

>>94658538
>>94658552
This. An airbrush can do two things basically: it speeds up priming and basecoating massively if you paint big armies at once.
That is not what you are after ofc, but it also allows you to do super neat colour transitions, OSL and other effects on single models that you might want for your collection.
Also priming and basecoating in super neat and even and thin layers is never a bad thing, even if you just do it on one guardsman or whatever at a time.

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You ever just drink cold water?

>>94658538
Arguably even more so, fuck painting display quality skin by hand, shit takes ages and you have to mix like 16 different shades.

>>94658624
Do you take the brush out first, or leave it in to let it stew more?

>>94658636
That's the cocktail, the cold water is your chaser.

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>>94658636
Do you make up these questions, Mr. Holden, or do they write 'em down for you?

>>94657239
Nice chocolates you got there.

>post models in 40kg
>get doxxed
Love this place

>>94658631
>>94658579
>>94658552
Ok ty, I'll look at some Fengda or something

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2010 vs. 2024
Just got back into the hobby in early November, been practicing slowly to get better and better. Love painting these Loota box Meks. I have no idea what happened with my old model; I think I brushed on Chaos Black as a primer.

>>94658718
getting your reddit account posted is not getting doxxed

>>94658726
you used to be better at not getting green paint on the rim.

>>94658734
I haven't painted the base or the rim yet. Gonna drybrush the sand and then paint the base rim a light sandy color to match (as I do with all my Ork bases).

>>94658737
Okay fine. I assumed you were finished.

>>94658741
I'm kind of ADHD and always forget one little detail before I take my photos, I usually get excited once my last wash and highlight phase is done (that's why he looks kind of wet around the pores too) and snap a photo. I need to get a lightbox though so I can stop taking these blurry ass magnifier pics.

>>94658203
Merry Christmas anon. I hope it's enough bits to do something interesting.

> tracker has reported that it has been delivered
Now to play the waiting game

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I'm painting a Christmas ornament. I usually do one of these per year, and sometimes give them out as presents.

>>94656168
Just grab a can of spray primer from a hardware store

> tracker has reported that it has been dropped in the ocean
Inshallah, God is Great!

> tracker has reported that it has been fired up my ass like a 120mm shell
I love the Power Glove!

>tracker reported that it has been lost in the warp

Anybody have any idea how to make flame effects on minis? I want tow chaos warriors to emulate the effect of being on fire.

>>94658796
If anybody does this, test it before using it on a model you care about.

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>>94658837

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Alpha Legion progress
Fixed trims a bit, this vallejo model air steel is bangin
Trim or no trim on the foot? Color suggestions for the pouch?

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Finished the chicken.

> tracker reported that it has been delivered to Nakatomi plaza
Yippee ki yi yay, motherfucker

>>94658769
That is cool af. Where do you get those?

>>94658849
I think the trim on the foot looks good. Maybe rhinox hide for the pouch?

>>94657580
Glad to hear it anon, enjoy!

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>>94658337
Welp, that's enough of this for today. Off to bed, hope you all have a fun Christmas


>>94658347

>>94658769
>>94659026
seconding that, this'd be dead fun to paint for next year

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I have yet to paint a wooden staff that I like, also somehow this guy is not coming together at all.
Any guidance?

>>94657239
Only glued her so far, need to fill all the gaps. I think I'm gonna paint her after I finish the Dunecrawler though

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>>94659288
I am an idiot

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>>94655248
Ohioanon, your package arrived. Looks like the carrier had a field day with it.

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>>94659306
Arrived just in time for Christmas, what a blessing! The death peeler is well done but the frame was not rated to survive the journey. I will take inspiration from it when I paint the fellriders. I've never painted anything from Malifaux and look forward to trying something outside my wheelhouse. I'll have to share the dinosaur gummies with my kids who will enjoy them more than any of the candy I've got for their stockings... Thank you for your generosity and Merry Christmas!

>>94659339
>not *fated* to survive the journey

>>94659339
What a fun bunch of stuff

>>94659026
>>94659162
It's 3d printed, if I remember it's from the Loot Studios Christmas bundle

Is green stuff world the best place to get miliput and green stuff? I kinda wanna get a whole bunch of stuff to experiment with. I live in the us if that matters.

>>94659489
GSW is not the best place to get anything. High prices and insane (45+ day) shipping that you get the privilege of paying for. Plus they're copyright trolls fucking with smaller businesses. Buy it anywhere else.

>>94659535
oh boy is gsw schizo back?

>>94659538
First time I've posted about them. Just got burned recently with "5-10 day shipping" turning into 2 months for junk quality product.

>>94659489
>>94659535
GSW as a company does suck and their "discount" is shit unless you're in Europe. Getting GS and milliput from them is not a bad option if you buy a ton of stuff from them but if you're in the US, consider Hobby Lobby.

> mfw bought some resin bits from them
> they updated it with more bits and pretended it was the same product I bought
I am mildly upset by this.

>>94659295
I got to get around to building mine, she looks like fun.

>>94659655
I'm really excited to paint her. As you can see though the parts aren't particularly tight fits, it's gonna take a little bit of work to fill and sand it all

>>94659489
I used hobby lobby and ebay respectively, you can find green stuff from a bunch of different manufacturers on amazon or ebay

>>94659257
Glaze purple into the shadows for some visual interest and to contrast the yellow. If you have it mahogany as a base color can help since it leans a little purple/red.

>>94659538
You don't need to be a schizo to think they're a shit company. There's plenty of evidence.
They sell a whole bunch of shit products, many of those are things nobody needs like that ridiculous brush wash station.
And sure you can ignore their bad business practices and still buy from them but there's simply no reason to, because you get all that stuff cheaper from somewhere else. If you don't care about where or who you buy from you might as well go with aliexpress, at least there the shipping is faster and it's cheaper. Quality is the about same.

How do I do anything decent with an airbrush?
This learning curve is really kicking my ass

>>94659813
Practice on a cereal box, or really any food in a box
Fill in/outline the letters and shapes

>>94659827
What a waste of food....

>>94659938
Yeah, I hit Post and realized what I said
In case others are confused, the box the food comes in, not the actual food

>>94659938
We've been over this a thousand times anon. What part of "Eat your paint" don't you understand?

>>94659813
What kind of paint are you using?
Different brands all need a different amount of thinner, so pick one brand and stick with it for a bit. It will take a while to learn but you will get the feel for it. If you want to avoid excessive disassembly, lean towards too much thinner; too little will clog your brush. Also, the distance between the tip and your mini will affect how much the paint dries before contact, so be aware of that too.

>>94659813
What's your goal and purpose for the airbrushing?
Do you plan on doing the finishing and final blends with the airbrush or more the initial stages?
As a general guide Iine if you feel like priming or basecoating a miniature already feels overwhelming and like a but of a challenge then start on a piece of paper.
Draw lines, circles and spirals, paint a dot pattern.
Try to vary the thickness of the lines and the dots.
Change the pressure or the dilution of the paint and try again. See what difference it makes and try to find a setting that's comfortable and where you have good control.
Then you can either do more shapes or try a model again.

>>94656786
it's not only online and predates the internet it's part of the 'black legend', american and general anglo brainwashing to diminish the former spanish empire while portraying themselves as the good guys and distract the narrative from their genocides

historical revisionism at is best

>>94659295
Hopefully I get mine soon and can hot glue her between paint sessions

>>94656005
Stop trying to bring politics into everything and people might like your posts more.

>>94660284
Tell that to the TC owners.

>>94658116
nice skelly!

Is there anything better than a piece of sanding paper to smooth out some hard to reach mold lines? I don't really feel like spending 10 dollars on tammiya(TM) sanding sponges(TM).

>>94660369
You can get the cheap no name sanding sticks for a few bucks on Amazon and cut to length/shape as desired. If not that then you can go to the drugstore/supermarket and get some of the nail files/polish sticks in the beauty section.
>mold lines
Personally I like to get these by scraping with a slightly dull xacto blade. Got a whole collection of diff shaped blades for a few bucks at advanced auto,

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>>94660392
Thanks. What would you clean such a thing with? These nooks and crannies.

>>94660442
scrapy scrapy with a dull xacto knife.

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>>94660491
BUT THERE'S NO SPACE BETWEEN THE KNOB AND THE KNEE THING TO MOVE THE BLADE TO SCRAPE IT OUT

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robe looks a bit too much like the metal bracers. they're both reading as grey. I would darken the robe then highlight with blue to break it up

also the wood of the staff is too similar to the rust on the blade and the armor. Go for a darker wood. think of the dark oak trees from minecraf. a dark chocolate colored wood would add more contrast.


hood looks nice. shroom looks cool too. here's mine from many months ago

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this is ogre magi from dota 2. I really like the color of the bird mount's blue feathers. any equivalents from vallejo or GW or other big brands?

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>>94658298
kitbashing is indeed super fun. CSM allow for more of it cause they're canonically scavenging older parts and the books describe them as salvaging loyalist armor pieces while maintaining their millenia old pieces from the heresy days.

I turn a box of 10 legionaries into 5 chosen and 5 possessed and saved a lot of money. kitbashed some putrid blightking mutations with the legionaries to mark them as possessed and mutated. I bought the origianl chosen box and used the many leftover bits to spice them up and fit the loadout options. here >>94656435


pic rel are some legionaries I turned into Chosen. it just doesnt make sense paying 60 USD for 5 dudes instead of getting 10 dudes that can easily be converted into possessed, characters, or chosen.
>>94658310
>>94658310
you will tell me how you shaded that ork skin

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Wash in the undersuit (left abdomen) or no (right abdomen)

>>94660645
Man I reckon transparent paints would be so cool on that armour. Like a green on one side and a dark blue on the other. Give that cool chromatic vibe or whatever it's called.

>>94660753
That's what I thought at first but AP speedpaints are way too opaque for that, I had to mix it with silver (basically metal medium because it sucks ass as a paint). Citadel contrasts probably work a lot better for it but fuck paying 8 bucks a pot. Could just go for a blue metallic outright too.

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>>94659339
Glad to see it got to you before Christmas but a bit horrified to see the absolute state of the box. Sorry you have to sift through broken glass because I was naive enough to think that was enough padding for framed artwork. Weren't there "FRAGILE handle with care" stickers on the outside of the box? Those gummy dinos are like crack. The mecha model is about the right size to proxy for a broadside battlesuit. I was going to build one of my papercraft ones but I didn't have the time available.

>>94660645
I'm thinkin' wash

>>94660532
Plastic glue with brush applicator for that area, scrape as much as you can and melt the rest with a tiny bit of the glue using the brush to smooth it out. Also works well for mould lines on knuckles and cables, or any area you want to he smooth.

>>94660753
You mean pearlescent? That actually would look cool, I’m gonna have to research if there’s some kind of process for that. I feel like I’ve seen it before on scale models, so at least it must be possible to mimic if not do outright

>>94660532
>no space to scrape it out
You don’t have to scrape it out to flat spot, just scrape it down. Put the blade perpendicular to the mold line, use the tip where the blade is most narrow, and follow the entire line. Like other guy said, plastic cement is also good for smoothing out a surface if there’s any roughness or bumps since it works by dissolving the plastic.

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SEATTLEANON PLEASE OPEN YOUR PRESENT I DON'T WANT THE WEIGHT OF EXPECTATIONS KEEPING ME UP! IT'S NOT MUCH BUT IT'S FUNNY! PLEASE LAUGH

any of you guys have experience with that german sperg who shills his recasts everywhere?

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>>94661014
>g*rman sperg
You have to be more specific than that.

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>>94660601
>you will tell me how you shaded that ork skin
It's:
- AK Interactive Black Green (2 drops of AK thinner to get it quite thin)
- AK Interactive Frog Green (2 drops of thinner)
- Ork Flesh Contrast painted over the skin very lightly
- While it's wet, tissue away the Ork Flesh so it remains in the nooks and recesses ala a wash.
- Very lightly highlight Frog Green again.
- Pick out some deeper details with Warboss Green if you feel like it (I only did so on the arms)

I never really do ork skin the same way twice since I like variety and flexing my skill, but this is what I do for very vibrant ones like that nob. Pic related is just AK Deep Green over Black Green with Army Painter Green Shade wash.

>>94659257
the yellow kicks ass. I use AP hardened leather speed paint over a bone base, but for your scheme would say screw doing it as straight wood, make it a dark purple with some lavender highlights to contrast with the yellow and align with the base, then do the mushrooms growing from it in yellow to tie it together more.

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JA from CA thank you so much for the gift. I've already eaten all the chocolate peanuts. I really like Warcry designs, I have a couple of Chaos warbands already. This one will be fun to make, plus I have a couple of the old metal chameleons and I love having old minis mixed in with newer ones to show the contrast on the tabletop. I'm going to try to actually post my progress on these this year, something I haven't exactly done in years past and I feel bad for not posting my /wip/s more often.
Also thank you for the 3d print minis. I have a friend that prints and paints a lot of 10mm armies for 40k and fantasy, so I definitely will have someone to play against.

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>>94661241
And can't forget the Sanguinala cutouts you sent. I hung them up on my bundle of pine boughs, since I don't have room in my place for a tree.

>>94656036
The problem is that it's an unofficial server that became official. Mods have power trips and ban whatever is outside of their view. People had some issues with the wording of some of the rules (I did too and posted about it in the general here), and as usual the only response was gaslighting

>>94658116
Love your paint job, but have never liked how short this sculpt is proportion wise

>>94658958
Looks nice anon. Can I ask what your recipe is for the black metallic parts and highlighting?

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I liked the way this turned out. Going forward I'll make the capes gold, keep the gun muzzles green, and do a heavier copper drybrush

>>94658154
there probably are planets in the imperium that do look like that though

Anyone have the Darren Latham deleted videos? Looks like the backups channel on YouTube was deleted. I think it was not_darren_latham8969.

>>94660767
You can get actual translucent paints. I have a bunch of vallejo ones. Tamiya does some as well that look better. I discovered them watching a video about creating blood bases.

>>94659295
>>94659655
What mini? She looks fun to paint up

Merry Christmas /wip/!

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>>94661547
It's 5'oclock in the morning, anon, jesus christ. We'll open presents soon, go back to bed.

>>94661536
Erza of Dedheim, from KDM.

>>94655373
I've never tried that, I've always gone with Celestra Gray

>>94655373
This is but a fraction of the hatred I have towards corax white.

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>>94661553
>It's 5'oclock in the morning, anon, jesus christ.
8:40 for me champ.
You have to rememeber the whole internet isn't American.

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It took herculean strength not to open this before Christmas. Polanon, you went on and beyond on this one, I don't even have enough desk space for this. Thank you so much for the tanks, I love them and they'll make a nice addition to the crew. Manticore not pictured under the huge pile of sweets. I'll definitely enjoy the sweets, not sure what happens in Poland but their candy game is always on point. Thank you, good health to you and your family and have a merry Christmas!

>>94661703
There really isn't a budget for these anymore is there?

>>94661710
I can't believe the guy I sent a Warlord Titan to hasn't even posted it yet. I literally helicoptered it directly to his house, so it's not like it hasn't shipped yet.

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Has anyone tried Warcolour paints? How are they?

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>>94656102
It looks like shit and was annoying.

>>94662273
I would have said yes. What went wrong?

>>94661014
Why would you buy from a German recaster with German prices when you can get the same quality for a fraction of the price from the russian/chinese recasters

>>94662290
NTA, but I prefer not to financially support enemy nations.

>>94662382
>buy 50€ worth of warhammer recasts from some nerd trying to make a few bucks
>he immediately donates it to the chinese armys destruction of the west bataillon, super warcrime division
Come on bro
If I had to buy everything local to my country, 50% would be completely unavaible and 50% would cost 3x as much
I don't have money to just piss away

>>94662382
you have, you do, and you will, because you can't avoid it

calling them enemies is also a meme

>>94662422
>he immediately donates it to the hinese armys destruction of the west bataillon, super warcrime division
Obviously not, I just also need the general population to be suffering as much as possible.
If you gotta do it then I guess, but I have the option not to, and for how often I buy stuff I prefer to buy directly from an artist in a not rival nation.

What’s a good collapsible light box?

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Been working on a Warhound over the last month and a half

>>94662579
Love the blueing on the cannon!

To anyone who have experience with using Blue Stuff for casting - how do you avoid having "air bubbles" in mold? I heat them up by placing in boiling water for 3 minutes and gently wipe water after taking out but I still often get random small bubbles in final mold.

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Thanks Pico Rivera Anon

>>94662579
I don't like these models at all but the paintjob is very nice, anon

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>>94662625
And the card

>>94662625
>>94662634
I do enjoy the creativity you went with on the gift. I chuckled as I starting pulling stuff out.
Divorced dad rat also looks fun. I'm going try and come up with something to do with him rather than just him as is.

That said, if anyone knows the kit here. Would he fit on a 25mm square in case I want to use him in TOW?

>>94662382
No Chinaman ever called me paypig

>>94661391
mega.nz/folder/QlESkABZ#BxUh-XKHuHDi4wJXYmNMfw

>>94662382
>enemy nations
Lmao you do realize that vast majority of products sold in the west are made in china, right? Even the ones that are "made" in us and eu very often use chinese parts. If you think not buying a recast from some poor chink trying to make a couple extra bucks is going to change anything you're out of your mind

>>94662707
Some of them are probably making more than a few bucks
Z probably has respectable factory given the size of his catalog.

>>94661274
>Can I ask what your recipe is for the black metallic parts and highlighting?
Chaos Black base, AP Deep Grey highlight. The most exposed parts are just a few dots of Leadbelcher.
Metals are Leadbelcher with Vallejo Game Silver highlights, and AP Dark Tone wash.

>>94655626
It’s meh all around. Last I checked the rules were basically just upgrading one character to their max or loose and the setting itself is just an atheists parody of Christianity with nothing interesting going on. You’re better off ignoring it so it dies in a year when people don’t get their minis on time to go play quar or turnip

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painted these for a friend but the amount of valhallan blizzard I had to use to cover both bases is concerning given how much I paid for the little bottle. I don't even like snow bases I just needed it for this project

>>94662837
Congrats anon now you know why you should buy texture pastes/effect paints from companies other than gw

>>94662772
got a link?

>>94662707
Of course.
I also consider the corporations that did that to the west as traitors.

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Merry Christmas WIP!
And thank you anon, you magnificent bastard.

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>>94662940
Sexy Gobbo

>>94662856
you can literally google 'z recaster email' and get it in plain text in the first page

>>94662970
God helps those who help themselves, anon

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>>94662970
you want me to go on fucking Reddit?

>>94663035
you're phoneposting so you obviously have bigger problems than going on reddit

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Merry Christmas, /wip/!
Here's a merry christmas wip

Morning, /wip/ Merry Christmas.
I am sterilizing/drying some sticks in the oven.

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>>94663113
>>94663086
Merry Christmas to you too and to every anon in this thread as well! I hope you guys got some nice hobby gifts

>>94663035
now try without your personalized results and cookies, a new icognito session on an actual computer should be enough

also unironically there's a place on reddit plenty useful for recaster stuff, don't let your irrational hate hinder your possibilities anon

>>94662772
I don't know about Z but the one I use has posted photos of their factory space. It's larger than my own workplace.

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Many thanks for the Christmas gift anon. I’m really looking forward to the flame wheel yokai model

>I didn't get a single gift for Christmas from family/friends
>my only gift is from /wip/ secret santa exchange
At least I have you guys <3

>>94663198
>Secret sex skeleton
I have several questions

>>94663251
the answer to all of them is 'doot'

>>94661536
Erza of Dedheim from Kingdom Death. Keep in mind that she is a seasonal and is only available to buy during Halloween week but you might be able to find it second hand. Sticker price is $60 since she comes with game mini and a painter's scale (what you're seeing in the pic)

>>94663284
I stg everybody in this thread picked her up.

>>94662970
if it's that easy to find why not just post it

>>94663330
because fuck lazy people who need everything spoonfed, i guess

i don't know really, there's this air of secrecy around recasters, they don't seem to like their shit posted everywhere, wich i can understand

>>94663383
so they don't like getting new customers and making more money, makes sense

>>94663399
red shirts troll these threads and get links taken down. its christmas james workshop go spend time with your family.

>>94662940
Can we please get a closer shot of Emprah Clause there?

>>94663413
it's boxing day here

>>94663399
i can't speak for them but they are clandestine operations probably run by a couple guys in a garage, they can only have so many customers before they run out of production capacity, increasing that increases notoriety and risks wich could get the pinkertons to your garage if you know what i mean

word of mouth is more controlled and safer usually

that said there are several ones with public webpages that you can browse, so there are definetly recasters with a bigger infrastructure that MAY welcome new customers more openly
you can google 'warhammer recast' and get one as the first result

some can also be found on aliexpress by searching for 'resin miniatures' or similar keywords in there, but those may move shops around more often

>>94662422
>>94662439
>>94662690
>>94662707
>t. An assortment of perfidious Chinamen

>>94663456
cool I'll try Ali express, thanks for an actual response

>>94663399
They dont like stupid customers, thats all.

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>>94663139
Merry Christmas, anon, and to all you uvva ladz as well!

>>94658318
I dont, please explain with numerous visual references

>>94662703
nice

>>94663530
Cringe

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Japanon,

Holy shit thanks, all the models are really cool, the prints are fun and I'll find a use for them, the tea is a great, I was running low and I'm probably set for a bit. All the models are right up my alley the riot quest guy is awesome and I love ape men in all forms ( Also the Kingdom Death Mini) Hope everyone has been having a good christmas

>>94662615
Anyone?

>>94662615
I would recommend switching to silicone, it's not that much more difficult than blue stuff and will give you much better results. I use high strength 3 from alumilite and it's been quite good. Just make sure you watch a video on how to set up your vents and mold box correctly.

>>94663906
But I heard that with silicone and resin, I would need to set up some sort of vacuum chamber to remove bubbles created during mixing and pouring.

I’m new to 40K just got a bunch of Blood Angel models from my parents. What is the best glue for assault marines and other marine basic troops?

>>94662615
Weird, that shouldn't happen. Are you kneading it fast? Try doing it slowly.

>>94663998
plastic cement

>>94663998
Tamiya Thin Cement or Mr. Cement S.
You can also buy Tamiya Airbrush Cleaner to refill the bottle of any of those two options above for much cheaper price.

>>94663998
Don't listen to these cucks, Loctite super glue professional liquid, if you ever need to strip/wanna change something about them in the future it's the easiest to work it.

>>94660782
my local post office is an argument against public sector unions unto itself. those paper craft guys are neat. my kids and I are loving munching on those dinos. Merry Christmas?

Merry Christmas /WIP!
Just wanted to say that this thread has prompted me to do a lot more painting this year, and has offered a lot of help and support in doing so, so thank you!

>>94662615
be carefull to not create bubbles while kneading it, also apply gently on the most recessed parts and apply plenty pressure

>>94663986
ideally yes, there are some kinds of silicone and resin formulated for better flow to avoid the worst bubbles but its still recomended, you can get away without if you are careful enough
if you are only doing one-offs is not worth investing in resin imo but check this in any case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9NnoToFOSI

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>>94664096
>look it up
>10,74 for ONE 3gr tube
lmaooooooooooooo

>>94660782
>Weren't there "FRAGILE handle with care" stickers on the outside of the box?

Aren't those stickers just an invitation for the warehouse crew to throw the stuff around extra hard?

>>94664218
NTA, postal workers are a bunch of miserable surly cunts. I get they have to work with retards but don't take it out on people who didn't wrong you.

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>>94662940
>>94662949
Glad you like it, post pics when you paint everything! We don't see enough LD209 stuff here.

>>94663422
I took a few pics before sending it off

>>94664236
>I get they have to work with retards
They are the retards, anon.

>>94663815
Glad it arrived and you like it.
Have fun painting and bon appetit

>>94664134
Actually I want to replicate few plastic parts from scale models that would otherwise require buying whole model again.

>>94664035
It cool down quickly so I guess rather fast. Thanks.

>>94663422
>>94664294
That's a seasonal Apotheosis from Kingdom Death. Every seasonal sale they release a meme version that comes with a card where the staff draws on it. They just released a reindeer themed one today but it just sold out. https://shop.kingdomdeath.com/products/deathmas-apotheosis-2024

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>>94664108
My toddler is asleep for her nap and then we fire up her new power wheels to chase the dogs around our back yard. I am working on the secret Santa gifts I got and eating spicy peanuts. The missus is crocheting stuff in her hobby area. It is a merry Christmas indeed

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Merry christmas all!
Smithfield anon you have done me proud, more warriors for my infantry heavy WoC army, some fancy extras, loving the horny lady, many thanks from across the pond!
Also your nuts taste great

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>>94663815
We got a Japanese dude in here

>>94664143
I just buy a 3 pack (6g total) of superglue for 1€ and it works perfectly lol

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>>94659339
>>94662625
>>94662949
>>94664532
Make shure you ladz scan those nice cards and drawings for our archive, OK?

How big is the gap between some 12 dollar bamco/tamiya nippers and godhand nippers?

>>94664619
About 28 dollars give or take. They do feel buttery smooth while cutting through sprues and leave little to no marks but it's definitely a luxury purchase.

>>94664644
How do "decent" nippers feel in comparison? Trying to upgrade from what are basically wire cutters

>>94664619
I have some knockoff God Hand clippers and they're fantastic, but I have a feeling they'll dull fairly quickly, so I don't use them often, just where the smooth/flush clip really matters for whatever reason. Most of the time I just use the same clippers I've had for years.

>>94664652
A vast improvement over hardware store clippers I can tell you that much.

>>94664619
while they might feel nicer, for non gunpla purposes where you are going to gapfill, remove moldlines and paint the models it makes no difference in the end result since you are going to be sanding the modlines and stuff anyways and the plastic is grey

>>94664652
You can feel the plastic crumple moreso than cut at first and there's a bit of a snap when it gives way, also you can't reliably get a flush cut without potentially gouging the model.

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Christmas or not minis won't paint themselves. I managed to do shading on the Dunecrawler today

>>94662775
Thanks for sharing, merry Christmas anon

>>94664717
Big fan of your dunecrawler, anon.
How much more is left to do on it?

>>94664750
Merry Christmas!

>>94664717
Looks great as is, and this is just my opinion anon but I think it would be cool if you did a subtle gradient across the larger red surfaces. Like doing a deeper red wash that you feather up from the bottom. Great work though

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>>94664753
Hey thanks anon, still a lot of work left to do though - highlights, weathering and the base. Probably a couple days worth of work
>>94664762
Yeah I plan to do that when doing highlights. Don't know why I didn't do it with the airbrush now that I think of it

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Merry Christmas Anon! Thank you for everything. I hope you have a wonderful Christmas.

>>94664795
Merry Christmas! We're having a great time over here, hope you are as well.

Anon never posted pics of my gift. Sad

>>94664820
He's probably too busy enjoying it.

>>94664551
given he writes in perfect english I'd be surprised if he isn't an anglo expat

>>94655610
>does it combine well with stipple blending and or stipple weathering?
yeah really well, i dont like it for skin/faces though
i prefer just painting the whole face/skin parts white/magenta or whatever skin paint im using after a slap chop. but stippling in general is great for skin and faces
slap chop is a top tier base to build off of imo
>then wash
if you want a grimshart style maybe
but if you want to just paint the mini with extra busy work for some reason, then do the retarded old 'wash the whole model then paint it again' method
i'd just get tamiya panel liner to bring out the recesses/details, or whatever thing you'd use

How do I fill in spaces in the model?

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>>94655248
Was super happy to open my secret santa today! I am especially hyped for the drill and the fancy dry brushes. May your Christmas be just as jolly anon!

>>94664873
Depends on the size
A razor thin seem, plastic glue
Anything bigger, putties like Greenstuff or Milliput

>>94664873
vallejo plastic putty or equivalent
plastic glue or sprue goo
milliput mixed with/or greenstuff

>>94664896
also if you try the plastic putty, watering it down has some good results
you could probably do this with the other putty as well

>>94664888
Glad you liked it! The wowstick drill is amazing and makes drilling anything so much easier.

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Kinda quick and dirty manifestation job. The corpse pile under the bird probably took about as much time as everything else added together.

>>94664955
>>94664888
Is it an electric drill? Or what is so special about it?

I only have an old $5 hand drill with a broken drillbit, so i could use an upgrade for sure.

>>94664820
Mine hasn't posted either but it was delivered yesterday and I'm hoping it didn't get stolen. He's probably busy so I should have sent it earlier.

>>94664619
It's literally just nippers, man. I use the ones that came for free with my 3D printer and they work just fine. Not everything has to be a specialty product.

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>>94664619
I have tamiya sharp pointed side cutters and they're really nice compared to the army painter ones I was using before. Cuts are cleaner and require less cleanup. As >>94664679 said though, you will still have to do some work. Think of it that way, with good quality nippers you get marginally less work during the cleanup stage than you do with lower quality ones. You need to decide yourself if buying them is worth it for you

Leaf here, anyone have any experience with Vigiart airbrushes? I found a Canadian store with them in stock and their prices seem good, but looking up reviews only gave me a single reddit comment.

https://www.sunwardhobbies.ca/vigiart-hs-80k-dual-action-gravity-feed-airbrush-kit/

>>94664862
>yeah really well
do you have any examples

Im really curious to see how it looks

thinking of painting my next batch of CSM like this

>>94665252
Looks like just another rebrand of the standard issue chiensium one. Should work for basic jobs until you break something and it's a gravity fed double action, but not exactly what anyone would consider a good airbrush.

>>94664619

Godhand is made specifically for Gunpla where you want to avoid discolorating the plastic at cutting points/near parts. IMO they are way over the top for Warhammer or scale modeling

>>94665326
hmmm wait did you mean using the contrast paint to stipple blend?
its a thin paint, so it should be easy to do that with
only thing i've seen with any sort of blending with contrast is some tyranid videos where the guy wets his brush and wipes for a really nice and easy blend. was on big minis if i remember right though, but it could probably be done on smaller things
https://youtu.be/McS08zKjAY0?si=_hpvWb_POffE96K4&t=666
>timestamp was 666
hope satan helps with your stipple blends, anon

>>94665360
>discolorating the plastic at cutting points/near parts

To be honest, it's not something you can avoid as discoloration is often caused by injection process. But they do help with avoiding stress marks and such.

>>94665396
>warhipster
I'm still a bit salty about this guy because he's the biggest reason I fell for the contrast meme. Stumbling upon his video by chance brought me back into the hobby though, so I guess it evens out somewhat

>>94665408
>contrast meme
why dont you like contrast?
>you dont have to slap chop with it
>makes painting yellow easy
its ok in my books
ive even seen people say its good for panel lining, but tamiya seems like less of a hassle to me for that
>they dont have metallics like speedpaint
>citadel STILL hasnt made a brush on priimer
also it overpriced, but everything from GW is so its expected

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>>94665408
>I guess it evens out somewhat
People shit on Sandy Frank and Carl Macek, too, anon; but it's Columbus and the Egg. How much longer would we have waited for anime if they hadn't laid their groundwork when they did?

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Just coming back into mini painting after an extended break and having wanted to come back for a while, was previously looking at updating my ancient paints (including some unopened Citadel from the 90s) to some Vallejo stuff, but I'm hearing that they stuffed up the formula on those so they're no longer nearly as nice?

Anyone know any reasonably priced reasonable-quality paints with high availability in Australia? Hell, do we perhaps have a native brand?

Also, what do you guys think of priming with Molotow One4All?

>>94664984
Those look pretty sweet for quick and dirty. Love the contrast between the stone and the glowy green.