Are we ever going to add Lorcana to the list for these threads? Lorcana doesn't do generals any more, but it still gets mentioned here as mych as half the entries on the OP list.

We'll be good and well behaved, I promise.

>>94715274

NO

FUCKLORCANA

>>94715274
it's not some special club. it just needs an anon who cares enough to go and do a guide for it and put it in a pastebin, and then it can be linked in the next OP.
the threshold for acg inclusion is just "one anon gives a nonzero amount of fucks".

What made tcg blow up during covid and why is every new game AAA IP + dumbed down easy gameplay?

>>94715318
>What made tcg blow up during covid
Youtube eceleb pack openers caused spiked in investment interest. Same thing happened with retro vidya
>every new game AAA IP + dumbed down easy gameplay?
something something accessibility

>>94715318
>AAA IP + dumbed down easy gameplay?
for the same reason most movies are recognizable IP sequels and spinoffs: it's safe and it sells. it's not very mysterious why a publisher would prefer a guaranteed gravy train over a gamble on more ambitious concept.

look, the fact is everyone says they want original settings and novel gameplay, but when it comes to voting with their wallets they don't actually support those things. MTG doing an IP crossover with marvel, or the latest committee-designed Bandai trash, will sell more cards in one set than all of the brilliant, ambitious, original /acg/ games put together. publishers are just following the money.

>>94715659
>MTG doing an IP crossover with marvel, or the latest committee-designed Bandai trash, will sell more cards in one set than all of the brilliant, ambitious, original /acg/ games put together.
Hyperborean Dino Paddock bros... not like this...

>>94715659
Popular visuals make sense but I feel like it's the only thing that matters anyway, so why not make a convoluted deep gameplay mess?

90% of sales come from investors, people looking at the art without knowing the rules due to brainrot or being a kid and social media pack openers which are basically the former aswell.

Might aswell allow people actually playing to do something on opponents turn other than pitch to pump at that exact counter phase.

>>94715663
Dude knew his dino game would sell well, that's why he didn't hand over the keys to the gravy train for free.

>>94715318
Ecelebs opened packs and sold a few pokemon cards for a silly amount. Although there were rumors at the time that they sold it to themselves to inflate the prices. The rise of tcg investment channels on youtube and people trying to treat TCGs like a cardboard stockmarket. The Power Nine in MtG is worth a ton of money and has created a financial interest in TCGs like what happened with comic books in the 90s or 00s. So newer TCGs are pushing the "investment" angle to drive sales and scalpers are jumping on it. TCGs have also just become more popular and accessible with the number of official online clients. One Piece and Disney are massive IPs that all but guarantee the financial success of the games.

Idk why you would want to add Lorcana here

Go to fucking Facebook/Reddit/Discord faggots
You have plenty of karens to talk with.

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One Piece Bros

WERE FUCKED

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Project K Warming up heheheeee

Um did anyone get an email from tixr saying they got removed from the "waitlist" for the Gundam beta event at Bandai Card Fest in Orlando? Cause wtf I bought in like fucking immediately.

>>94718136
I'm still on the fucking wait list. It's hopeless, no one is getting in that should have.

>>94718172
Maybe youre in then? Literally everyone I know (3 people) got removed. I didnt even know I was signing up for a wait list. I LITERALLY signed up as fast as fucking possible for it.

Are scalpers really going to orlando in person for this?

>>94716114
because that's not true. 90% of sales come directly or indirectly from casual players. so the game needs to be easy to learn and RNG heavy. making a TCG with good gameplay is counterproductive.
there's plenty of options if you want good gameplay. but none of them sell very well, few live very long, and you'll always be expending a lot of effort trying to find opponents.

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>>94715318
Specifically it was the YouTuber Logan Paul getting into Pokémon cards. Originally we all joked that were playing children card games and that kept a lot of people away but when the normies saw that someone “cool” like Logan Paul played with Pokémon cards it showed them that it was socially ok to buy cards, even worse it attracted resellers from the shoe communities and sports card communities as well and we all know how that ends up. Soon after people put two and two together and if Pokémon cards are okay then surely all the other card games are fair game as well and that just caused a mass normie spread to everything.

>>94715318
Gibs + boredom at a time when bullying for "nerd shit" is at an all-time low brought in a lot of dollars during covid. Some of them saw "look how much you can make" and thought they'd make money (they didn't), others saw "look at all the people playing" and thought they'd make new friends (they didn't) and some just got exposed to things they thought were dead because they were at home consuming content all day long.

this year... it's going to be good for fab, i can feel it

SCREENCAP THIS

>>94718108
Never underestimate LoLtards

I'm on an 11 game win steak in Fusion World and now I have ladder anxiety

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>>94718443
Paul is dead to half the world. Or at least he should be.

>>94715318
>Have a product type that tricks people into playing for odds that would have casino owner's give up their left nut for.
>Need to be retarded to buy so much sealed product or just not respect your money to keep gambling on sealed product.
Gee, I wonder why.

Damn the bald fatso kinda cooked here ngl: https://youtu.be/4ukvHao8y4k

>>94718203
If I'm in they're doing a supremely shitty job actually notifying me in enough time to make arrangements to spend a weekend in america's playground. I'm going to be so fucking pissed if I find out that they let me in but never updated the notice and then I get banned from future events.

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>F&B armory tonight
>3 games against Jarl in a row
I hate him so much

>>94718996
Imagine playing dumbed down dbs masters while Digimon & Onepiece are still supported and are almost the same game

>>94719455
What does he do?

>>94719486
Ok?
I'm going to continue to play Fusion World.

>>94719505
Defense focused hero who makes it harder for you to actually play your cards.
It's just such a slog to get through

>>94715243
>will never get chaotic tcg reboot
>chaotic tcg scalped to fuck on second hand market
My Mipedians.... at least I have Blazvatan...

>>94719314
I actually traveled for this.

So I didnt know that I was on a wait lIst. I literally thought I bought my spot since I went through this awkward process and instantly bought in the moment sale went live. I'm pretty blindsided.

Its not the end of the world, I have a family member in Orlando so I spent Xmas with them but I mean, I actually wouldnt be here if I didnt think I had a spot.

I cant think of a time a cardgame has handled something this bad.

>>94719828
There's going to be on site registration available. How feasible it will be to actually get a spot remains to be seen.

>>94718203
I'm Sunday wait list. I'll know tomorrow if I've been cut.

>>94719668
>Blazvatan
gesundheit

>>94719455
Surely it's better than playing Nuu or Nigma.

I miss seeing Victor and Kayo at this point.

>>94719455
aaagh, I had nearly the same thing happen the other night. 3 of 4 games.
I may have to give FaB a break for this round of meta, come back in 6 months or some shit.
maybe I'll go make another attempt at being not-dogshit at ashes or netrunner.

So hows the Hololive TCG going? It looks like Pokemon but not cringe gameplay

>>94719856
That's a pipedream. You have to get there so early you're going to be suffering all morning to likely end up 100 people behind the cutoff.

These fuck-heads haven't confirmed nor canceled my ticket. I'm so fucking pissed off they are doing this to me because I'm on tampa bay side, so it's 3 hours in a car to get to the event. For someone like me to join the wait lines Id have to leave my house at 2 or 3 am, and there's no way I'm doing that. Fucking hate you so much, Bungledie.

>>94715397
Im a tolerant type but i learned to loathe the people who scan stuff or research price charts for vr or just boosters in this case. If your only enjoyment is a potential profit then screw off. Ive just moved to digital for vr since the prices just got out of control.
>>94718443
Pw here, this guy sucks. Fun to watch but i dont like him in wwe.
Sorry if i went too off topic.

>>94723417
Is it fun to watch him exploit a suicide victim for likes?

>>94723260
managed by Bushiroad. That should tell you everything you need to know.

>>94723260
Doing well enough their stocks soared up for a good bit. Set 1 got dominated by Promise decks to the point some key cards got limited though, and the /vt/ thread stopped popping up so I don't know how set 2 is going

>>94723439
Yes

>>94723627
I believe you're as hopeless as he is.

>>94723760
If there was any hope for me anon I wouldn't be in /acg/

>>94720824
Dude, Bandai Namco, send the stupid announcement already. Letting me know last minute and incurring penalties for my absence is such a scumbag move.

>>94722861
I will always be dogshit at those kinds of games

yall are dumb, the waitlist for the orlando card game fest is for ticket availability. of which there will be none. your only chance is to make line early as possible and get one of the registration slots

>>94724657
The wait list is for potential spots that open, like say a sweaty fuck who couldn't actually go realized he can't sell his ticket and cancels reservations. Now the next in line for wait list gets contacted to take their place. That's how it's intended to work, only no one is canceling their tickets.

>>94723359
>I'm on tampa bay side, so it's 3 hours in a car to get to the event
jeez I'm in Pasco and it's only an hour and 40 minutes for me. I might show up at 9am and try to get as lot and if I can't I'll just do the Fusion World side event at 11am.

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I guess only Sunday will have on site registration events.
I don't know if you can sign up for the Sunday tournaments on Saturday though. I'd rather not have to go tomorrow to sign up for a tournament the next day. Either way it's a lottery so it's a crapshoot if you actually get in.

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This game isn't for us. Fuck scalpers, they always ruin nice things.

>>94725501
>>94719856
>>94719828
Have none of you been to an event - of any sort, not even /tg/ or /acg/ related - before?

You buy ahead, you show up hours early and wait, or you don't get in. Nobody wants to host an event that doesn't fill up, so it's designed to be 100% sure every single available spot is filled.

Yall are retarded spergs for not knowing this.

>>94726383
No, anon, that's not normal. it's grounds for a venue or publisher to get blacklisted indefinitely. selling tickets ahead of time for an event is common, but if you buy one they don't turn around and sell your seat out from under you.

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Oh let me get some other chaotic cards out for yall. Game has been out of print for 15 years now so yea high value cards can go for hundreds or even thousands. Pretty much impossible for someone to start collecting unless you are prepared to drop some serious cash.

There have been a high number of people as of late selling their entire collection and some of those are some serious collections worth thousands.

>>94726383
You can't sell tickets and then cancel them to only then sell them again dipshit.

>>94726556
I highly doubt it's worth thousands unless there are enough wealthy nostalgic adults.
Is it being sold to collectors or bag holder to bag holder?

>>94726732
There are a few big wales that do buy the best stuff which has sold for thousands. Hard to say what percentage of the fan populous are investors and what percentage genuine collectors/players. Some foke genuinely buy and collect thinking the prices will skyrocket when the game finally comes back. I know it's not coming back I collect just because. Yu-Gi-Oh and magic have come and gone but chaotic is more special to me.

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>>94726719
>>94726554

>>94726955
Do what makes you happy.
Considering you played the game can you tell me about the meta, I heard that one card was played in the backline or whatever and it floodgated your opponent from a mechanic so every ended up playing the floodgate in every deck.

All of you, this is your final warning. Avoid Gundam. Do not buy it, rip it, lick it or even piss on it. This isn't going to be a pretty year for card gaming, best avoid the bullrush right out the gates.

I will blame one piece for introducing scalpers and faggots to Bandai card games
Shit used to be cheap and easy to get

>>94727794
stfu doomposter. im heading right to that orlando event and bringing a buddy to get two sets. we both got guaranteed tickets

Why are creatures and sorceries the foundation of 90 percent of card games?

>>94727704
There is no one meta army that is the best, but there are many different strategies that are quite powerful if left uncheck. Sometimes the outcome can become clear as soon as the creatures are revealed if you have nothing to stop the opponent's strategy. A good player will have cards in their army designed to disrupt the opponents strategies. Having said that there is a band list as some cards are simply too strong or they can singlehandedly shut down an opponent's entire strategy.

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>>94727704
Najarin Fluidmorpher's foe is one such baned card. Essentially if your opponent is playing an army with Fluidmorpher's it all but guarantees your victory.

>>94727918
Because most people base their games on Magic and Yugioh. Creatures are also just good for marketability. Kids and autists can latch on to a specific guy and buy up all of his cards or build decks around him.

>>94727839
I will accept nothing less than pics or it didn't happen

>>94726383
You dumbass. I bought tickets like 3 weeks ago the moment they went live and paid the full $75. I didnt receive an email until yestersday saying my seat was sold out from under me (a day before the event), conpletely blindsiding me after I traveled here to be for it.

The event is in orlando. I imagine atleast some others made my blunder, as when I bought in it seemed to say I had my ticket. The whole thing was confusing as fuck and rescheduled multiple times. And somehow scalpers instabought the whole thing anyway.

I cant think of a TCG launch handled more shitacularly than this one. Does anon know of one?

>>94727918
Every other card type in every game is just a variant on creatures and sorceries. Or lands, but many games have the sense to not do dedicated land cards.

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This feels like a fucking side deck card in your Bo1 game. Yeesh.

>>94727918
like in the general sense of "why are there permanent cards that can interact with eachother and one-shot cards that do a thing"? probably because it's just a very obvious design construct that works well with the physical medium of cards and doesn't innately require extra tracking or components. calling them "creatures" and "sorceries" (or some equivalent) works well for any fantasy setting, which most popular game settings are.

>>94729045
I don't think I'd go that far, unless you keep the definitions really broad, almost to the point of uselessness. there's a fair amount of mechanical distinction between the sorcery and instant, because the later requires inventing a scalable resolution/timing system. and permanents that don't "fight" in some fashion aren't really creatures in the conventional sense. you can have games with no or few permanents, and you can have games built mainly around permanents that don't fight in any meaningful way.
those definitions also don't really constrain what a game is. like you could compare MTG to Ashes, and say hey, these are both symmetrical games where wizards fight, summon creatures and throw fireballs by spending mana, and try to win by attacking and reducing the HP of the other wizard to 0. they use all the same card types. the concept is the same. from a high level view it sounds like they're the same game. when in fact, it'd be hard to find two games in this sphere that are farther apart in how they actually play.

For nu-netrunner, are the boxes themed around runner factions Vs specific corps like FFG boxes were? I'm looking at the website but it just says X new cards and some comments say there's X amount of runners in one but Y corp identities in another. I want Criminal, Weyland and Jinteki stuff but no box is advertised as such.

>>94728901
if you didn't get an email actually giving you a ticket day of purchase, your just straight lying. why would you lie on the internet

>>94729373
You mean the Null Signal Games sets? They contain cards for every faction. Only FFG's "big boxes" contained cards strictly for two factions.
You can check exactly what's in each set at this site https://netrunnerdb.com/en/sets

>>94729196
Side deck? It's good into literally every color.

>>94729386
That's the ones yeah. Thanks very much anon. I thought that site was just for deck building, I'll have a look see. Are there any you'd recommend? The arctic one said it introduced new Runner card-types or something, and I don't want to rush into overcomplicating the game just yet.

>>94729407
I'm not the best person to ask for recommendations as I haven't actually bought anything since the brain damage change, I just play the last FFG meta with some friends these days. But assuming you've just got System Core/Upgrade and are branching out into expansions I guess Ashes is probably a decent place to start. It was their first set since FFG lost the license so the cards are generic enough to enhance what you currently have without pidgeonholing you into a gimmick like some other sets do (e.g. lots of Weyland cards in Borealis are clearly designed with Ob in mind and want you to trash your own stuff, which other IDs in the same faction are less happy about). Ashes does have a fair amount of banned cards though, and I'm not sure if the set is even in the Startup format rotation, so if you've got a local meta you play with it'd be best to ask them. Or just go with the latest set in Liberation.
NetrunnerDB's a great resource, use it as much as you can. It's also a lot of card rulings so if you're not sure how a card works just pop it in the search and there's a good chance it'll help you understand better.

>>94729407
If you're just starting out, just stick to the eternal sets for the Startup format. Gateway and system whatever it is. Don't worry about the latest rotation sets to start with. You can always fuck around with those on jinteki before you buy.
Also remember everything in netrunner is allowed for home print and play or publishing through any printing service. so you have as much flexibility to try before you buy or even just DIY shit as much as you like. It's quite literally legal to show up to Worlds with a hand-drawn deck of cards as long as they're sleeved.

>>94729472
I wouldnt do those uprise/downfall expansions just because it's a rotating set that has already left the Startup format and anon may not end up committing to the game
the "System Gateway" set is intended as a starter box, with System Update as a first supplement (System Update is all reprints of FFG cards for people that have that). both of those are supposed to be eternal in both startup and standard.

just go here if you want the pdfs
>https://nullsignal.games/products/system-gateway/

>>94729401
Untrue but that's alright.

>>94729548
>>94729472
Thanks very much anons, will just stick with the System Update for now and then look into that upcoming Dawn set as need be. I don't have a local scene unfortunately, just playing with my girlfriend but it's always good to have more options.

>>94719525
Glad I dropped FaB. I hated playing against Oldhim so much.

This entrance line to The Orlando card fest is nuts. Where are you all at in it

>>94729875
I'm just gonna get my cards in a couple weeks instead :)

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>>94728856
Suck it doomer

>>94730089
based

>>94729875

Im in the midwest currently waiting to be buried under 8 ft of snow :(

>>94730089
B A S E D

>>94729875
Jesus I'm glad I didn't waste time and gas driving over there

>>94730089
If you really want to own anon, take the sealed packs home, use them for target practice and post pics

>>94730185
But but but cardboard with holes in it is a heckin domestic terrorism on par with the coup of Jan 6 and makes me wet myself in fear!

>>94730089
well now I want Gundam to fail because canceling people's entries but letting people walk up and sign up is corporate behavior that is a level of faggotry I can never support

I want to play duel masters so bad but its not popular in the west anymore therfore no cards translated in english. it's become japanese only and I don't read japanese

>>94730418
Same bro
Simulator when I can be bothered making it

>>94730283
I didn't sign up here, I had the ticket from early December already

>>94730452
a simulator is hard yo make isn't it? you must input all the effects and translate the cards and make the rules and interactions, etc.. thats nearly impossible (T_T)

>>94730612
Simulators already exist for MtG with all cards programmed and Duel Masters is way less complex mechanically than that. Almost every card effect is a simple "trigger->effect" which is pretty easy to program.
The hardest part is gonna be the GUI probably because I'm gonna basically be making my own game engine for it because all other card game simulators are jank shitware.

>>94730693
did anyone done it with the program 'tabletop' on steam?

>>94730796
Everything that currently exists either on Tabletop Simulator or as a standalone program for playing Duel Masters is either very incomplete or janky garbage (usually both). That's why I want to make my own simulator. I'll post about it on /acg/ once I make some progress. Don't expect anything soon though.

>>94730894
I wish you good luck because you seem to be alone in this project or maybe someone can help you? (not me because I don't have skills sorry).
>no update any soon
don't worry.
also I have duel masters cards and thats all I have do you have dm cards too?

>>94730894
people who go down that route usually borrow the codebase from jinteki since it's open source. most of the acg games with complete sims are descendants of it.

>>94730612
It can't be that hard, because all the older games have them (unless it's for a publisher who is douchy and C&Ds everything). including games that have been dead for decades or only have tiny playerbases.

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>>94730957
Once the program is in a sort of minimum presentable state I plan on releasing it open-source. I might not have all cards implemented at that point, but I'll try to make it easy for others to contribute and add missing cards if they want to help.
>do you have dm cards too?
I bought a few boxes of recent sets, partially to see if I could get some first-hand data on pull rates of different rarities in packs, because I was thinking it might be cool to implement booster draft into the simulator somehow. Pull rates seem to be all over the place compared to something like Magic, so if I do implement booster draft, I'll probably just allow users to define their own booster packs because there doesn't seem to be any way to figure out official rates.
Apart from that, I guess they're a cool collectible thing, because no one I know irl knows Japanese to play DM with me.
pic related is my favorite card that I pulled from a box of DM24EX1. I was really hoping to get her before I got into the box and I was so happy when I pulled her.

>>94731133
>borrow the codebase from jinteki since it's open source
I will definitely look into this. Even if I don't use any of its code, I'm sure there's stuff I could learn from it.

>>94731143
If memory serves a couple of the younger ones forked off of keyforge's sim (keyteki aka the crucible). fab and ashes sims both did I think. that might be easier since those are all symetrical duelers. coming from netrunner mechanics is more of a leap

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>>94730894
Speaking from experience, TTS is really not that hard to build a proper module. I had to learn how to do it for The Condemned, and it was stupid easy to throw all the card images into custom decks, arrange it all nice and purty-like, and then upload to Steam Workshop.

The biggest challenge for you would be grabbing all the card images in a high quality resolution. You don't even need to script any triggers for things if you don't want to. Just having the cards and a decent play mat/table (which is also stupid simple, btw) would be enough to make a competent TTS module.

>>94731143
>might be cool to implement booster draft
are going to make another simulator like edopro? with 1ll the cards available too?
also what's the effect of the card you posted? nice artwork

>>94730452
Someone recently updated the DM addon on OCTGN to add all the cards. Some cards even have scripts to automate their effects. DM is such a simple game that imo a full auto sim isn't really necessary, but small convenient scripts for some cards is neat. For me personally, I just wish there were more people willing to play at all

>>94731430
The thing is, I want it to be more than just "a way to play Duel Masters digitally". Those already exist with varying degrees of completeness (I think the OCTGN and Cockatrice implementations might have most cards now, but not all scripted).
A way to play that already expects a familiarity with the game and its rules in order to play only appeals to people that are already into the game.
It might be delusional to expect this to work, but one of the main reasons I'm making this simulator is to make Duel Masters more popular in the West.
I want it to be such that some random dude who's only just heard of Duel Masters and doesn't know the rules can just download the program, quickly load up a game against a bot with a precon deck and start learning the game from playing it with all the card effects scripted, and all the cards presented and translated to English. Yes, I plan on implementing AI eventually because I'm fucking crazy.
I basically want it to be the definitive way to play Duel Masters, outside of the real-life paper game, which most of us outside of Japan can't do. And I want it to be so easy to use that the barrier for entry is essentially zero.

>>94731559
I'm not sure, I haven't used edopro.
My main point of comparison would be Forge for MtG. That has all cards scripted, almost every format playable (including draft), and AI opponents (they're not very smart, but they're good for testing decks). One of the main improvements I want to make is making the GUI look really nice and feel responsive.

>what's the effect of the card you posted?
- Justdiver (when this card enters, it's untargetable and unattackable until start of your next turn)
- Double Breaker
- When this card enters, you may mill two cards. Then return a death puppet (creature type) that costs 4 or less from your graveyard to the battle zone.
- When one of your death puppets leaves the battle zone, you may draw a card. Then your opponent discards a card.

>>94731755
>I haven't used edopro.
it's just the all cards are available for everyone

>>94731430
>>94731559
TTS is fine as a stopgap and you can set it up with no coding knowledge. but it's not the same as having a sim.

>>94731755
this is definitely doable because so many games have fully implemented ones. and for a lot of acgs the playerbases are so small that there cant be more than one or two players working on the sim.
you might take a look at felttable because I know a bunch of the games have AI bots you can fight on there, like this one:
>https://felttable.com/ashes

Is Bandai mentally handicapped? They have one big event for like 7 of their games but instead of giving a stream for each one, or just one for the most popular one, they just stream one round of each game and then fill it with YouTube commercials.

Why, who thinks these are good ideas

>>94730089
Nice timestamp

>>94730089
The one year I don't classify to worlds in a Bandai game they give cool merch.

>>94732893
>July
jesus what's the god damn hold up?

>>94732920
So they can print just enough stock so that your LGS runs out right before you're able to get there and buy one

>>94732988
You sure as hell know they itll still run out within minutes.

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>>94723260
It's doing well. Cards are selling so well they bumped Cover's stock. Kanata and Pronise ruled set 1 so they got hit with restrictions for making their decks too consistent in performance (1st Mumei) and making their decks hit too hard too early (1st IRyS, Debut Kanata). Kanata's wasn't hurt too badly because it was only one card and set 2 gave her some support in the form of 1st Chloe but Promise is in a wheelchair with no signs of recovery yet. When they made the announcement on the site they also made specific mention of Kanata Oshi being a card they're keeping an eye on since that card is also really strong.

The top Decks in set 2 so far seem to be Reine+Iofi, Chloe, and Kanata but things are looking more diverse overall. They added Purple but the cards aren't considered very strong aside from Ollie Oshi.

>>94723526
>the /vt/ thread stopped popping up so I don't know how set 2 is going
Please understand that board's normal state is "Stupid fast" and anything can cause it to go into "Studid Faster." I know some anons over here are holding out for a global release to start playing.

>>94733042
I mean, I don't see it as playable for a while due to scalping. Same as what has happened to One Piece

>>94732537
the players who keep falling for their bullshit certainly are.
you see bandai's name on something, you turn and go the other way. anybody with any sense knows that.

>>94732920
The producer said that they adjusted some things based on the Beta feedback for the final release, which means the Beta pack may become just an outdated collector's item because the regular release will have the same cards plus some new ones.

>Gunpla miniatures
>Gundam CCG
Gundam is going to crush 2025, with mediocre gameplay and highly desirable collectibles. This is how acg dies, not with a bang but a whimper

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The first booster pack, Newtype Rising, will be available! It will contain many Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn cards that are not included in the Starter Deck!

>>94733690
unironically fuck off, shill

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The new Gunpla product, Gundam Assemble, will be releasing a new collaboration product! You can play by placing them on top of the token cards used in the Gundam card game!

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A total of four special sets will be released in collaboration with Gundam Assemble, including a starter deck and three Gundam Assembles!

*The product in the image has been painted.

You are not immune to marketing campaigns. You are being conditioned to buying this stuff RIGHT NOW.

>>94733707
>>94733698
Wait I'm confused Gundam Assemble is an extension of the card game?

>>94733722
No, it's not. It's a separate minis tactical game gunning for Battletech's success. They want you to buy the models and put them on your cards as an experience enhancer (and so they double dip). They're effectively 3D tokens.

>>94733770
oh, that makes sense

>>94733707
>20 dollars more
Bro, they fucking think theyre GW or some shit?

>>94733792
They think they'll make a lot of money off of this (they will)

>>94733611
From the start they announced that most of the beta cards are a selection of cards from the full release. The exceptions are exclusive alt arts and possibly some of the cards in the 56-card set that includes some basic cards and tokens.

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>>94733695

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What is GUNDAM ASSEMBLE?

GUNDAM ASSEMBLE is a tabletop game that uses 5cm-sized Gunpla to battles. Each unit has abilities that allow players to enjoy scenarios that follow the original story or diverge into completely new situations.

More info coming soon

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https://youtu.be/MTd6T-mUZHI?si=PTP89XH1xVS7f_06

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>>94734155
>>94734136
>>94734190
Better use for the IP but not /acg/ in the slightest.

>>94733707
so you are basically buying starter deck with figure inside of it ?

>>94734378
With three figures, and only if you want them. You can buy just the starter decks. The figures do not interact with the card gameplay at all. In fact, it will just slow it down for having one more thing to put on the table.

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>>94715243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH6cU4QXLj8
>20,000 dollar card sorter to make the rich richer

Wake the FUCK up, /acg/.

I can't wait for there to be 50+ people trying to sign up for Gundam beta events at every store near me for 8-16 player caps.

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>>94734504
We're living in the worst timeline. Louie is a successful business man.

>>94727794
Cannot be worse than union arena.

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>>94734736
Wanna bet?

Get ready to be priced out of your favorite hobby. The shitting down occurred when TCGs went gangbusters during covid. Sensible prices are going bye bye soon.

>>94733135
Will it cuck Wixoss?

>>94734504
Doesn't make the rich richer - demand is only going down - it just makes the prices drop faster.

Imagine investing anything in selling magic singles in 2024. Only one making any money from the game in physical is tcgplayer and maybe wotc (disputed)

>>94734928
Didn't you watch the video? He says he went 250,000 dollars in revenue. He is planning on this 20,000 dollar investment to help him crack a million.

>egregiously vague event details are given for the bandai beta event, says registration coming soon on a bullshit website that divulges little
>BandaiNamco takes intimate player meta data for profile creation of everyone that signed up for your debut event
>threatened to ban people for abuse of using the events only for personal gain
>takes people down on a waitlist that sells out in under 3 minutes for two separate days that you can only choose one to play in
>refuses to communicate anything with those on the list
>removed every last one of them 48 hours prior to the event and allows on site registration instead for anyone able to get into a max capacity expo
>still fondles the private player data of all those chumps who got nothing out of it, creating profitable customer databases
>"btw launch is a half of a year out so sorry to those who missed it! '

Name a more scumbag approach to launching a new TCG.

>>94735150
skill issue

>>94735241
You mean the great skill used to craft that expert opinion of yours got you free gibs so it's okay for a company to treat its playerbase like condoms?

>>94735266
Because they're getting fucked! Ha! I get it! That's funny...

>>94735150
fuck the event, at least i still got my box and it was worth doing rounds and trading with some guys i just met. admit you were never going to actually play anything and just here to bitch

even at launch your just going to be this sour cunt in the corner with stuart little aspirations

>>94734504
>sorting machine
Sweet, I can't wait to buy LP cards listed and sold as NM!

>>94733707
sloppy paintjobs tho

>>94735814
If you have 'eavy metal brain.

>>94734190
>rolling dice to move
meh, easy pass.

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Bandai will be releasing core sets for the Gundam GCG on July 12, that include a trio of minis for Assemble.

>>94730089
Thats just the general admission badge packet, i got one of those and dont have a gundam tixr ticket to play and get a betabox

I dont know how much of Bandai's bullshit over Gundam I can take.

At this Orlando event they sent out a push notification saying people were lottery selected for a 10AM event to play, so I rush my ass there, make it through massive lines to find out there was no such event and no one there knew shit.

Bandai staff then says they'll sent out a notification "later today" to sign up for a lottery to play on Sunday but those didn't go out either. I expected as much but I'm tired of getting kicked in the nuts this many times over this Gundam Beta getting dangled in front of me.

>>94734943
Revenue doesn't make you rich, profit does. If he's alone, making $1m in sales is a pipe dream, he doesnt have the time to pack and ship that many cards unless he's working 60+ hr/week, or he's exclusively moving high value cards (at which point, why would he need a sorting machine).

But you're right, investment in automation increases output. What I'm saying is he'll sell more, cheaper cards, thus spending his time packing and shipping cards less efficiently in $/hr spent. And long run, the more of these machines are used, the higher supply for the secondary market for older cards, which will stunt growth and lower prices overall.

And all that's assuming the market still grows and prices go up, which is questionable given reprint policy, declining demand for standard staples, and continued migration away from physical cards. If it turns, he's got a $20k pile of shit.

>>94735736
>the event was horrible, but I hate the you are talking ill of it
Nigger this is why Bandai keeps getting away with retarded shit.
I play Bandai games and they have only been getting worse with how they handle things and not better

>>94735736
>admit you were never going to actually play
Why would I want to play at the very first beta event for a game that's a half of a year away from launching in a state I live in for a genre of sci fi I have loved and collected my entire life? Geee yeah, Sherlock, You figured it out off of no actual investigating that I wasn't really going to play after all. You feckless cavort; no one that deserved to get in got to play this weekend.

This is the worst launch of a new game in recent memory. I'm fucking done with hollow promises and shallow player experiences that are rampant in titanic IP games. If Gundamn does get successful I feel sorry for all of the idiots that don't know any better, feverishly fanning the flames of corruption in my favorite hobby.

>>94737190
Can you post something stupid and get banned so all your posts get deleted and I can see how much seethe you've emptied into this thread?

>>94737197
This enrages the advertisers.

>>94736794
>his business is growing, he's not making money!
Extremely narrow thinking

I live in Orlando and didn’t even attempt to go to card fest. It’s all just so fucking cancer now a days and not worth the stress.

>>94737197
The cuck cries as he strikes you. Glad you got tired of FAB FUCKDAM

>>94737190
>This is the worst launch of a new game in recent memory.
It wasn't launched yet, the beta and the event is for curious people that can't wait.

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>>94715243
Question on stealing game mechanics:

How legal is it?
For example, say I wanna make a TCG inspired by Arkham Horror, but with simpler Rules, and have a lot of the same mechanics, particularly the bag thing. How would that go over?

Also note I said TCG and not LCG.

>>94737379
Honestly I love conventions, but this company screwed the pooch so hard on this event it isn't even funny. I would've gladly bought a hotel down town, gone multiple days, had a great old time. But finding information about what the expo even was or what kind of available events would be there was like pulling teeth. It's absolutely blatant; they didn't care about informing the public, all they needed to do was hand scalpers the golden kits to make their july release a massively successful one.

>>94737559
Depends on how much you borrow and forget to relabel. Funny coincidence but look up what happened to Elder Sign, its not so bad in the end I guess.

>>94737592
Well, it'd be anime, and TCG because it'd be a Japanese game first, and LCGs just aren't popular enough. You need that gacha rush if you want a card game to survive in Japan.

But it would be horror themed and focused more on narrative and cooperation rather than the classic PvP most TCGs do.

Rule would have to be massively simplified because AH is a bit of a mess. But a lot of the general idea would be very similiar, particularly for anyone that's played AH. The bag idea is also genius, so that's definitely getting stolen.

>Elder Sign
I'm looking into it rn. tl;dr before I ask ChatGPT?

>>94735808
This. And this is why you ALWAYS report a mislabeled card condition to whatever platform you're buying on. Always. No exceptions. They're trying to pull a fast one over on you and hope you don't notice.

>>94737617
They stole the dice mechanism from knizia through risk express to put in their game and now I assume he gets a check yearly and his name in the back of the rulebook 2nd printing onward.

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>>94737617
kek

>>94737640
How did that happen, when game mechanics can't be copyrighted?

>>94737660
I don't know and the details are hard to find for me but I assume it was talked about on The Dice Tower as hearsay plus the above image showing the original and "revised" rulebooks.

>>94737349
>growing the top line is all that matters!
Extremely narrow thinking

>>94737893
>money numbers went up
>no! the money numbers are not going up!

>>94737559
Wouldn't sweat it. It's mainly a problem because they can sue you and take some of your profit. but you're making a TCG without a major IP license so you don't need to worry about having that.

>>94737907
Yes, retard, that's how business works. At any level of revenue you can still lose money.

>>94738170
>he doesn't think 250k is a huge amount of money
>not even 1 million
Why are you having a badfaith argument defending LOUIE of all people?

>>94737534
>curious people that can't wait
and have money and live in a first world country* (which is what this fag is mad about)
KWAB

This place has so much infighting its hilarious. Us pokeKINGS all make our portfolios go to the moon regularly and our only disagreement is the great modern vs vintage debate. But you guys should keep fighting over fab or any new game that comes out that has packs just barely over msrp, its peak content lmao.

Marketing blitz not even one week after 2025 rolled out. This is going to be an expensive year.

>>94738433
i hate you pokebro..

>>94738574
Why did you delete the original post?

Whats the deal with day 3 of the Orlando event? Did you need to have a tixr reservation to play gundam beta today?

>>94738602
you needed a reservation on all the days but sunday had some slots they were doing via a lottery to get in

>>94738635
Was the lottery notification sent in the bandai app?

>massive company scams throngs into creating marketing data for them
many such cases

>>94738252
$250k in sales on tcgplayer almost certainly nets him less than $50k, and could conceivably be more like $20k after taxes and expenses, which no, isn't a lot of money to earn in a year.

I'm not defending anyone, I'm just calling someone who thinks a quarter million revenue for a small business with volatile margins makes someone rich.

If he hits $1m revenue, and doesn't have to hire help to get there, he'll probably net about what a successful tradesman (plumber, electrician) makes in a year, for more hours worked and a lot more risk that he loses money over the year, with no guarantee he can hustle to do it again in 2026, 2027, etc.

I'd be willing to bet he makes as much from social media as he does selling cards.

I'm trying for my next fab party to be as fair as possible, please mark any fab cards as spoiler so i don't have an unfair advantage by knowing the card rulings beforehand

>>94739048
Comprehensive rules still haven't been updated for the Jarl deck, half of the rulings are assumptions atm

>>94730894
>/acg/
where is this?

>>94739168
Pathfinder Adventure Card Game general

>>94739179
oh nevermind its just the title of the general, haha

>>94719668
If it makes you feel any better, you can play the game on tabletop simulator.

>>94726732
I don't know if its true, but if I remember correctly, I read that certain ultra rare cards could only be pulled from packs that were included with starter decks. They weren't seeded in regular boxes. This makes certain ultras ludicriously rare. The earlier set had a reprint set but the later sets didn't.
I think cromaxx can go for about 700+. Some of the marillian set ultras can go for 800+

>>94739023
He has like 2 or 3 employees from the video alone

>>94739644
Didn't watch the video, but that means he's not making shit. Even at $50k total comp each (like 35k/yr salary plus taxes), if he made $250K sales, there's no way he got even close to making any money last year. On sales anyways.

Idiots will lap up his social media posts as "proof you can get rich selling cards" and that's where he actually makes money, of course. But even still he's got a ton of overhead and runs a small business and works well over 2000 hrs/year to make, what, maybe 100k before taxes?

This is the opposite of rich. This is starting with money and losing it, quickly or slowly.

>>94739837
While masturbating to the influence this has bought you online. Prostitutes and cam girls are probably cheaper

any channels like Three Floating that show fab gameplay but display a readable version of every card&token that's being played?
preferably without 40% of the video being patreon/sleeve/playmat/promo/website advertisements?

>>94739942
If you're not already invested in it, I can't recommend fab to a newcomer. Increasingly expensive and focused on meta-chasing, really steep learning curve, shrinking playerbase that means you'll only be playing people much better than you. It's like trying to start playing a "classic" RTS online at this point.

If the sets after this next one settle out a bit, that could change, but they're basically whaling at this point and it's not a good sign for either longevity or fun.

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>>94737559
It probably falls under the same laws protecting board game mechanics. You can't copyright simple actions that any game would run into; such as the act of turning a card 90°. Hell, you can say "Tap this card" since you can't copyright a word. However you can't just use the tap symbol that WotC uses or used since they will likely have a copyright on the symbol. It all comes down to the symbols really.

Also don't pull a Metazoo and rename every little thing. Page = Card, Chapter = cards in hand, Bookmark = drawing a card ... It's too much to keyword every little action like that.

>>94740144
From my limited knowledge about copyright, you can have a copyright on an expression of a rule, like the symbol you mention here or the specific wording used in a manual if it has some creative element to the wording, but you can't copyright the rule itself.

>>94739962
why is the playerbase shrinking? I just want to print out 2 decks and need help deciding not invest. But https://fabproxy.com/ doesn't work on any copypasted lists and I need to add every single card manually...
Even if I would buy a real deck, aliexpress counterfeits would be my choice for anything of value.

>>94740250
Aliexpress has very few of the last couple sets.

And player base is dropping because the game is brutal for newbies, the meta has been "new hotness built entirely off money cards from latest set always wins" for last year or so, and there's no effective attempt at increasing playerbase by the publisher.

>>94740250
>>94740320
I have nothing against proxies, but niggers who counterfeit shit should kill themselves

>>94740368
If you don't sell it, it's a proxy.

>>94740375
NTA but there is a big difference with a proxy and a counterfeit. Both are fake cards, but the other one is trying to pass as a real card. If people want to proxy stuff for casual play, I'm all for it.
People who try to peddle counterfeits off as real cards honestly are scum and should get the rope like that other anon said.

>>94740375
then just make a proxy instead of funding counterfeiters and why should I trust you in the first place?
Everyone here is a bitter retarded asshole who would get off selling fake cards to people and stores

>>94740405
I wanna play but not pay scalper prices not make a flip by scamming others. Imagine being angry for the other guy being sane and not spending 120$ for 1 armor piece cardboard that looks the same double sleeved as 3$ aliexpress

>>94740431
You are going to be a net negative to your locals experience because you are not going to be spending money at locals and instead be competing against people who do.

I have no problem with people who play proxies but will always hate the faggot who believes he has the moral high ground over those who are willing to support stores or games they play especially those who play acgs

>>94738136
Can they actually sue you though? Under what grounds?

>>94740431
Then make a proxy? I don't get the selfish MEMEMEME attitude of wanting to lie to people you are playing with about the authenticity of your cards. Like fucking make a printed proxy and play with that. If they don't play with you because of that, then they don't play with you and it's their choice.
Trying to pretend your cards are real when they are not is fucking retarded.

>>94740431
You can make a proxy using your at home printer

>>94740144
>>94740242
Yeah, that's how I understand it too, and that's what ChatGPT said. Now granted, ChatGPT CAN be prone to making mistakes.

But it's a matter of symbols, as you put it. The iconography and language used such as "chaos bag" cannot be used.

But the idea of putting chips into a bag and using that for variance and progression rather than Dice Rolls for example. Cannot be copyrighted, Neither can the idea of having a sort of map layout made of cards or other stuff like that.

Essentially game rules themselves, cannot be copyrighted. So they really wouldn't have any grounds under which they could sue you in. As long as you change the language, iconography, and such of the ideas you're taking.

It's a similar scenario to D&D and D&D clones essentially.

Now idk the specific details regarding Elder Sign, but it seems like they settled out of court for some reason.

>>94740459
NTA but I have "proxy" fakes of all the legendary equipment I could source, and am happy to pay my weekly entry fee and buy some packs (and snacks) to keep the store open. I also bootstrapped both the FAB and Lorcana communities from zero at the store, and pre-ordered three boxes across the last two sets of Lorcana, plus the Jarl deck.

I really like my LGS and local card game community and enjoy FAB - to a point that's fading lately due to LSS manning the harpoons - but I'm not paying what it costs for legit FAB legends to not get instantly blown out at locals. I'd rather give that directly buying merch at my LGS. And desu if fab died tomorrow, I'd play other acgs, board games, and make a real effort to stand up DBZ Score at the local place with the remnants of the FAB community. That game is fire, particularly with the fan additions over the last few years, and it plays much like FAB but with an IP most zoomers/millenials at least are familiar with.

>>94740718
Don't you find it a bit unfair that the other players have bought the cards and expect others to also play "fair"? It's kinda unfair towards them that you can play with fakes you don't tell them about, when they play with only the cards they have. If they are missing a card that they don't have, they don't play it.
I assume you haven't told them that you play with fakes? It's pretty damn scummy no matter what mental gymnastics you do about it. They play by the rules and you don't.

>>94740913
>They play by the rules and you don't.
Oh well.

>>94740921
I like how you give that much of a fuck when you spouted this crap earlier:
>>94740718
>I really like my LGS and local card game community

>>94740963
Wasn't me, but he's not wrong. We live in a low trust society, get yours and get out.

>>94740913
I'm fine with them playing with a piece of paper with the card name written on it, idgaf. LSS has a problem with it so the LGS has to "require" real cards, which is in no way either checked or enforced. I'd play talishar on our phones sitting across each other on a table, desu.

>>94741014
>Wasn't me, but he's not wrong. We live in a low trust society, get yours and get out.
Damn I wouldn't want to play with you nor go to your locals

>>94740963
I wasn't that guy. I simply expressed the most logical answer to your guilt-baiting and moralfagging.

>>94740913
>buying proxies for recent set
Cheats the producer or the nebulous "pack opener", not the person across from you.

>buying proxies for out of print set
Cheats collectors/other players, but not the individual across from you.

It's not really moral, and hurts the global/national community, but the only potential impact on the person across from you or your local community is slightly depressed prices for the cards, which can be good or bad for the individual depending on their holdings.

Stealing from a predatory company like LSS (or wotc) and depressing card prices is a moral good in my estimation, but it's hard to argue it's anything worse than immorality with limited impact. Except supporting China in general is a moral evil, so ymmv

>>94741039
Nta again, but it's only cheating if you get caught. And in this particular instance, the sin doesn't really harm anyone. A reasonable explanation if brought up by any keen eyes, is one that most people would shrug off and accept. Especially given that he's proactive in helping his community, rather than being a parasite. Most people can understand not taking out a loan to buy fucking trading cards.

>>94741067
Not only that, but if we're speaking morality here. The onus is on the companies themselves to make sure GAME PIECES are affordable and accessible to everyone, using COLLECTIBLE as the real high rarity cash-makers. You've already got a model to follow with Pokemon and One Piece. If you're strong arming your players making necessary and powerful game pieces extremely rare, driving up their price to sell more product, you're a piece of shit company, your player base SHOULD actively punish you by printing their own cards until you change your ways. Simple as.

>>94741039
>view of society has any importance in your opponent in a card game
Lol, lmao.

Cheating in a hobby is stealing from yourself as much as anyone else.

>>94741080
>Especially given that he's proactive in helping his community, rather than being a parasite
Why should I believe him or any of you considering you all admit to major moral shortcomings and admit you all believe that cheating harms no one.
Also you faggots are perfectly fine funding Chinese counterfeiters

>>94741113
>why are you mad about cheating and scamming people in a social activity?

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>>94741102

>>94741102
>One Piece
>Cheap
LMAO

>>94741124
It's not cheating anyone you're interacting with. It's cheating the people who are selling the cards you would have bought, arguably.

Or are you saying you prefer games to be explicitly play-to-win? Should there be a 1-of card that reads "1 cost, win game"?

The marketing blitz is a discord organized raid to get us to "invest" in Gundanium stonks.
Grim

>>94741146
I don't play OP, but that's what MonkeyFightTCG said, and I trust his word.

>>94741117
I mean, I don't think anyone here really cares what you think or believe. We're just making the case and calling you out for being a guilt-tripping moralfag.

>>94741148
It is cheating though. Or why else would you hide it from the other players?

>>94741184
It's only cheating if you get caught. That's the no.1 rule.

>>94741158
Decks could go past $500 easily I don't know if that changed since I stopped giving a shit

>>94741184
Because by bringing attention to it beforehand, you're putting the pressure on the LGS to have some sort of official policy regarding that. To which their instinct would tell them "this can hurt our profit, and our integrity with the companies, so no." Wheras if they noticed you had proxies, but were discrete about it, they're likely to turn a blind eye, and not care.

Common sense bro.

>>94741193
According to MF they changed all their policies, and the prices of decks has dropped to Pokemon levels. Promos are no longer important meta relevant cards, but instead, really weak collectibles only. And they have done tons of reprints, as well as making Structure Decks cheap, and easy to help you build a meta deck. He made a video about it like last week. That's why I know all this. As I said, I don't play OP. I'm just taking him at his word. However, Pokemon exists as a living example. Pokemon is and always has been extremely affordable to play.

>>94741158
>MonkeyFightTCG
I went and watched his video and he mentions MSRP and ignores the fact that shit doesn't sell at MSRP and gets scalped.
Ignores hard to get promos that make cards expensive

Maybe don't take the word of your e-celeb if you don't play the game dipshit

>>94741220
>Ignores hard to get promos that make cards expensive
He mentioned in the video how promos are no longer meta relevant.

>Maybe don't take the word of your e-celeb if you don't play the game dipshit
I just brought up an example off of memory, don't get your panties twisted in a bunch.

High rarity cards should be collectibles only. Game pieces should always be cheap and accessible, that's the point being made here.

>>94741184
I hide my dick from the opposing player too, does that mean having one is cheating?

>>94741238
Damn I'll just ignore the several years of the the game being expensive as shit then

>>94741249
I'm talking about present time you stupid fucking moron.

>>94741262
And why should I trust some stupid faggot who never played the game and blindly trusts some faggot youtuber?
Game was still expensive 8 months ago and the community is filled with cheaters and scalpers.
Also why the fuck would anyone trust a person who requires a game to do well to make content either?

Game could be cheap now, but you are still a faggot

>>94741272
>Game does bad thing, is expensive
>Game corrects their ways and does good thing, game is cheap now
>Game is praised for doing good thing and being cheap now
MOTHERFUCKER WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU RAGING SO SPASTICALLY.

I listed One Piece as an example given the changes they've made to their game which aligns with the core idea that GAME PIECES SHOULD NOT BE MADE INACCESSIBLY RARE AND EXPENSIVE.

I don't fucking care about how One Piece was or wasn't 8 months ago. You admitted you dropped the game a months ago earlier in the thread. I'm taking the word of a guy who IS STILL PLAYING THE GAME and recently reported on the changed made to the game to make it more afforable and accessible to players.

Take your fucking rage boner somewhere else. I don't fucking care about OPTCG, and I don't fucking care about your hateboner for OPTCG. I don't play OPTCG. I merely used it as an example alongside Pokemon, you FUCIKING AUTIST.

And right now, some guy on YT that actively plays the game, has more credibility than some raging spastic on 4chan that hasn't played the game in months.

Now fuck off.

>>94741272
>Also why the fuck would anyone trust a person who requires a game to do well to make content either?
MonkeyFight TCG is originally a Vanguard guy, and he's actively shit on Vanguard time after time. He also plays Yu-Gi-Oh and Wixoss, and has like half his videos are him shitting on Yu-Gi-Oh. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who needs OP to succeed to make content. He just talks about card games in general, and if OP goes to shit, he'll just hop over to talking about a different TCG like he did after Vanguard. I'd say his word is fairly objective.

>>94741338
You would understand why I wouldn't trust someone making a video saying the card game isn't a fluke and call the card game new player friendly without ever mentioning that the game for apparently until the last 6 months was very much not

>>94741353
never mind he mentioned it at the end where I didn't watch originally

>>94741353
I mean, it's his second video on the matter, he made one a year after OP launched completely shitting on it and listing all the problems they needed to correct. The new video seems more like a follow up to that. No point in repeating what you said a year ago in an earlier video.

>>94741358
Game still seems to be $250 at the max end which I wouldn't call cheap but still better than most games

>>94741360
Like I said, I don't play the game, so I can't say. I know Pokemon caps out at around $120. I was mostly focusing on what I understood about how the game handles things based on what MFTCG reported. Game pieces are kept accessible and cheap. Collector cards are extremely rare chase cards. That's how it should be, and games that don't follow that model and make game piece rare, are scum. Looking at both Konami and WotC here, but also given the original conversation, LSS as well.

>>94741374
Idk if you can call anyone of them scum, it's all slightly disguised gambling, but I agree that putting most of the money is the most pro-player (at the cost of random pack openers) stance to take. Any mechanically unique player piece that costs more than a pack is a rip off for players, but then putting all the value into 1:1000 chase rares pushes out pack openers for anyone value minded.

Regardless I think we can all agree that LSS' 1:96 beat odds for meta-defining equipment is fucking predatory. But they don't care, they'll sell a whole new deck in each set that has 70% win rate over any other deck, and you'll fucking buy it. Right up until you won't, and the game dies.

FAB is going to be basically dead by 2026 if this keeps up. We'll see how it goes, but I'm very pessimistic for its survival given the recent sets. This also applies to DBSFWCCG, but Bandai doesn't care they'll just shut it down and relaunch.

>>94741408
LSS is anything but predictable. They have proven to abhor a repeat of any of their strategies for expanding the game. Change is in their nature. They're going to adapt, and they will launch a new game to keep the company afloat thereafter.

>>94741442
Bold move claiming anything about the "nature" of a single company that hasn't shown a lot of growth over time.

>>94736264
I want the Talgeese and the Zaku, I hope they aren't expensive.
>>94737197
since when older posts get deleted over a ban?
>>94737559
Mechanics aren't protected on copyright, that is why lots of games are just "different flavors of magic the gathering". What companies can do is protect things in rule books (like phrasing and terms) and visual design like symbols in the game or physical things like tokens/dice/miniatures/bases/etc.
>particularly the bag thing
Just use a dice.
>>94740144
>Also don't pull a Metazoo and rename every little thing. Page = Card, Chapter = cards in hand, Bookmark = drawing a card ... It's too much to keyword every little action like that.
wow I never bothered to understand metapoo now I m relieved I didn't even try.

FAB really needs to try and create and support casual armory events considering armory events are basically test grounds for tournaments from what I have been told by my friends who play

Hey, got a question for eurofags in the thread. Have you ever ordered something online where the seller did not collect VAT? If so, was it collected at customs? What happened?

>If I can get away with that, I'll turn on shipping to Europe for The Condemned without a second thought

>>94741666
The problem isnt making enticing and fair events to invite players to, it's getting a store that will shed even a single wet fuck to help push your game. I have a local gamestore owner I hang out with, cool guy, we talk every time I bump into him. Best part was that the store is only a quarter hour from my home, so I went often but not just for fab. After awhile of seeing no events listed on the storefinder I asked him why doesn't he run regular flesh and blood events anymore, especially prereleases and skirmish/RTNs. He said to me LSS sent him numerous messages about their concern for why he stopped as well and asked if there was anything they could do to help make his store a place to build a community in. He told them that people came all at once, then not at all and he's done with the revolving door of activity. He can serve lorcana, pokemon, magic and that's really where all the interest is according to him. He considered them the paying customers.

Do you want to know why people really stopped playing fab at his location? Because he charged next to nothing to play but made only the top players of the game the ones who walked out of there with everything. Every promo, every poster, the community mats, extra packs; the elite players were the only ones treated to an embarrassment of riches. So the only ones that were showing up were the top 4 every week; they drove everyone away with their greed because they were cool with getting it all and didn't give a rats ass about keeping a community alive. It's a crying shame but the owner has no faith in the players anymore, so he turns to what's popular with the only regulars he had. LSS was willing to step up and do what it takes, but the boss man said "don't bother."

>>94740581
>Now granted, ChatGPT CAN be prone to making mistakes.
Not just can, that's practically guaranteed. It's a lot more shit than people who don't know anything give it credit for.

>>94740144
What's the limits of their ownership over a T turned slightly, could I use a sideways T? Could I use a T slightly turned in the opposite direction? Could I use a T where the top line of it is a curved arrow?

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Hey anyone who knows the Hololive TCG, what the hell does the red circle mean?

>>94742367
The red circle was added to the image in post to point out a specific part of it.

>>94742367
Is the Hololive TCG a fucking POKEMON clone?

>>94742367
+50 damage vs blue

>>94742439
Yeah, with additional mechanics for a tag team partner, a leader card, and energy in a separate deck

>>94742497
Sounds extremely simple. Is the US getting it? Might buy a trial deck or two, just to have them.

>>94742513
No concrete news yet other than there's an English version in the works. There's a couple of simulators available already if you want to try those

>>94742544
I just want to collect random stuff.

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>>94741408
>DBSFWCCG

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been lazy lately but her some content for you
First some z/x idol set

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>>94742934
loth SELECTOR
digging cold foil FAR cards

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>>94742941
some December singles
Vividz secret, L&L secrets and sp plus minor stuff

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>>94742950
z/x singles

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>>94742951
and Z/X promos

>>94740144
>>94742342
you're confusing two totally different kinds of IP.
the tap symbol is trademarked. it has nothing to do with copyright.

For anyone who went to the Bandai Orlando event: they had a panel for gundam TCG. Did they at all mention anything about selling more Beta boxes?

Literally all I wanna know about the game. If Beta edition is scalper fuel I'm just going to skip this one despite loving Gundam

>>94741408
Read >>94718721

>>94742934
possible gato
>>94742951
gato
>>94742953
gato

>>94743878
You know the answer to this. The company doesn't care about what you want, they never have.

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This just in: Kodachis for life

>>94744682
Am I the only one that's getting tired of the over simplification of weapons?
>what sets apart the draconic knives from vanilla ninja? They destroy themselves and they're more expensive! XD
>That's literally it

>>94731755
Yeah definitely don't bother with TTS scripting, it's totally a hacky process that only fairs well with 3D objects, otherwise you're doing shit like hiding dummy objects and constantly reloading scenes just to tweak the UI
That said if you do go the jinteki fork route use anything besides their UX, I can't tell you how much I despise how shite the Keyforge client is

>>94737659
fuck me, I should just be lifting 1 of the 1000 knizia mechanics into my game
it's going to take another 15 years minimum before they reprint them all

>>94744682
creatively bankrupt

>>94745023
>>94745519
But you don't get it, they have the DRACONIC tag! That means they're brand new deck building tools you can completely build around! Isn't it exciting? Draconic!

Why isnt bandai dropping BSS? Is it because its their flag game in Japan? Is it a pride thing? stupidity?

>>94746053
Japanese company gonna do Japanese company things. Honor before reason and all that.

How long has it been since they've not announced set 7?

is ff tcg good?

>>94746903
Buddy of mine was really into it about 6 years ago. I didn't get into it as much, though I probably would have enjoyed it based on what he described to me.

I'm be hosting an online Tournament for The Condemned CCG on Saturday, February 1, at 1:00PM EST. If you want to check out the theme decks for the upcoming Chaotic Assault expansion and play for free, Check out the post below:

https://juelgames.com/sotg2025/

Also, I'm working on getting the Kickstarter done up for Chaotic Assault. Once it's ready, I'll share a link around. More work for me to do, yay!

>>94747194
and what did he describe to you?

>>94743878
It's been stated before many times, you check your lgs for which ones are doing the beta event later in the month. Signups are supposed to start on the 15th

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>>94743878
https://x.com/GUNDAM_GCG_ENG/status/1876323462349734252

The GUNDAM CARD GAME EDITION BETA STORE TRIAL EVENT is starting from Jan. 31, 2025!

Be one of the first to try the Gundam Card Game!
Participants will receive a special Promotion Card as a memento! Download the Bandai TCG+ App and apply for the event.

User Unveiling Date
2025-01-17 00:00 (JST)
2025-01-16 07:00 (PST)
2025-01-16 10:00 (EST)
2025-01-16 15:00 (GMT)

Store list can also be found from here:
https://gundam-gcg.com/en/events/store-trial-2024_01.php

>>94747942
>Download the Bandai TCG+ App and apply for the event.
And give them spying privileges on my mobile snitch device?? Fuck you!

>>94747980
>>94734067

>>94747980
angwy scalper that can't show up to multiple locations to snatch boxes kvetches

>>94748034
>angwy scalper
Proofs? Nothing that was said indicates that. Maybe they are just trying to play catd games and not suffer an invasion of privacy?

Your defensiveness indicates you could be a shill.

>>94748084
you're not slick samefag

Fuck, it seems like SWU is dead. Went to a limited event yesterday and 6 people showed up, the other event at a different store got cancelled.

>>94748203
Feels like a lot of games are dying
Either the company being kikes or investors being kikes or god forbid both on the same game.

>>94743950
Most excellent. I really enjoy it when that anon posts.

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>>94744682
Thank god the next one's actually nicer.

>>94747568
To be honest, I don't remember too much beyond he loved the deep cut nods and references for Final Fantasy fans. There's apparently a bunch of them.

>>94744682
Flick Knife stonks going through the roof right now

>>94748366
The worst situation is when your publisher is incompetent. I don't know why I expect anything else from FFG anymore.

>>94748665
FFG went to shit years before SWU launched, and they crashed their previous star wars game in to the ground. hard to feel bad for that crowd, they knew what they were getting in to.

>>94748716
It seems more like they didn't want to power creep everything heavily so they fucked up and instead didn't make anything relevant after the first set

>>94748432
Does this trigger off of attack reactions? Hope there's draconic ones coming. If so this is great. Thankfully too because the hero ability seemed a little milktoast

Played the new set of One Piece for the first time tonight, showed up with my pudding deck
And holy shit, i guess big mom decks are jsut gone.
The new robin just completely fucks the deck with banish on card. Fucks every yellow deck really.
And black beard is just horrendously unfun. shutting down onplay every turn 6 don and up. How the fuck do you play around this? Or is it just drop yellow and play when attacking black

>>94748432
Yawn. At least it's not focusing on "royal"

>>94749274
That's literally the Bandai business model. Don't worry they'll ban the tier 0 deck two weeks before the next set.

I bet they've already started design for the next One Piece game, launch date Q4 2026.

>>94746053
>>94746707
There's no set 7 on time, that much is certain. They might shift to some fucked up 2 sets a year model and keep the game on life support.

>>94749351
first bandai game, thats shit
I dont mind shifting meta, a deck getting worse with standard power creep is fine. but its just several decks designed around not letting you play. absolute dog water.

WHY THE FUCK IS FLESH AND BLOOD SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW?

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>>94749333
Actually a single knife attack will make your opponent sweat because of reactions and with all the money you're saving on knife strikes you can afford to play high costed meaningful strikes on top of everything. I think these daggers make him at least interesting.

I'm outta practice so this deckbuild is me just playing jazz with the concept. Repeat, not viable, just for testing out certain interactions.

>>94749748
What's the problem now?

>>94742303
Yeah luckily I have 3 good stores.
One will give you an entry per event joined and draw one, so more engaged player will have a higher chance of getting something.
One just let gives you a token, collect10 and you can pick a playmat.
One will let the top player choose something.

>>94745519
Inb4 they just reprint about half the draconic cards from UPR rather than think up new ones with interesting interactions

>>94741146
one piece IS cheap as fuck...unless you're trying to build a yellow or black deck right now LOL good luck

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can someone explain to me what those cards are split , basicaly 2 cards in one card. it's weird and I don't know what they do

>>94751099
Twinpact. You either play it as a creature (top half) or spell (bottom half).

>>94751107
oh I see thank you. I dont like the merge but its ok

>>94745519
>>94745646
is anyone surprised by this? even back when we were playing and talking just Welcome To Rathe on here, the general consensus was "wow this game is really cool and it has great core mechanics and it's fun to play, but they're going to fill all the available design space in like two sets. it probably should have been a LCG/ECG." we had that conversation dozens of times. in this general. I assume many of you were there.

and it was pretty obvious that, once all that obvious design space was filled, the only way the game would be able to keep having new cards would be to just keep expanding the number of classes and/or keywords, or to bolt on entirely new parasitic mechanics that were never part of the original vision. well, big fucking shock, fast forward a few years and that's exactly where we're at.

>>94751579
There's a little bit of space left, but you're right it's getting thin - outside of parasitism as we're seeing.

It would have been best sold as stand alone decks, where each hero has a set deck and there's no deck building. Much easier to balance, and allows the more creative decks to still have a place - particularly since skill can make up the difference so much. But then it'd never have gotten big and made the money it did, even if short term.

>>94751579
Oh the game mechanically is solid, but what hasn't improved is the release method. We have rangers that are choked out of cards for years now, getting only crumbs that are largely rejected by the masses; they're still an unexplored class after as far as I'm concerned. Do you know who are well explored classes? Ninjas, Warriors, Runeblades and Illusionists. Hell there's twice as many Mechs in the game as there are Rangers at this point. What's taking them so long? Why do they keep repeating easy classes to design for? Why is there a cult that screams "if you aren't playing ONE TRICK PONY AZALEA then you're playing her WRONG!" I'm getting sick of how long it's taking to get around to fixing the odds for existing classes while they keep tacking on talents willy nilly to White's favorite children.

>>94751788
>It would have been best sold as stand alone decks, where each hero has a set deck
that's the method being used by Varia (the "hey we fixed fab!" fantasy fighter that came out last year). I don't think they're calling it an LCG, but it's that same basic precon-expansion model used by summoner wars and the L99 games. all the packs are fixed contents, there's the barbarian deck, the ninja deck, the knight deck, etc etc.
although ironically I think their whole Take X Levels In Ninja and Y Levels In Knight scheme may actually allow more flexible deckbuilding than FAB does, since it has room for building hybrid class decks. that's less a compliment to them and more a comment on how dogshit fab's hero class system has become.

>>94752086
that's the nature of any game with strictly siloed classes or factions. the same shit happened with basically all the FFG games at various points. but at least those had shit like influence points or allies or whatever that would allow sharing at least some cards across faction/class lines. with FAB you don't even get the breadcrumbs from other classes.

>>94752463
>varia
let's check it o-
>dice
dropped

imagine if fab surprised us with an all generic set, like everfest but actually good

>>94753312
They can launch Merchants, Bards, Alchemists and maybe Blacksmith as classes. I'd be really excited for that, actually.

I really want to play a card game with actual cards. my main target is Yu-Gi-Oh! but I still didn't find MY type of deck/archetype that will make me buy the cards. (I have some cards but they're random: nothing to make a deck). I also wanted to buy FF tcg (beginner deck) but didn't bought it because I wasn't sure my brother would play with me. there's a third game I wanted to play: duel masters but its not in the market anymore (only in japan in japanese , I don't read japanese).
>magic
I don't want to start playing it.
but anyway, can you suggest me some TCG to play?
also which TCG has the cheapest cards/unit?
please thank you
I don't like pokemon lorcana or one piece

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>>94753312
I wasn't telling you to play the damn thing! I'm really not sure why they did the dice resolution, because they then do everything in their power to hedge around the RNG and you end up with something that feels pretty much just like FAB in its basic gameplay.

>>94753409
pokemon and one piece are the cheap tcgs. bandai generally does a lot of cheap, shorter lived games. and there's always a pile of new TCGs that come out every year that don't do well and end up being cheap to buy up. that Alpha Clash superhero game from last year is pretty cheap now for instance.
the actual cheapest shit around here is not ever current TCGs though. It's either playing dead oop games, especially by getting them reprinted. or doing one of the LCGs (or ECGs or XCGs or whatever the fuck they brand as) that don't have any rare cards. in most cases getting a complete collection of one of those games costs less than a single comp deck for a TCG.