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Getting dissolved by Troll Puke edition

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>Previous Thread:
>>94728494


>Thread Question:
Which tabletop unit is canonically best at fighting Trolls?
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>>94741769
>TQ
Order of the Blazing Sun.
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>>94741769
So why are Gnoblars not part of the greater Greenskin roster?
They are just dull Goblins, slightly taller than snotlings.
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I have acquired 5 recast resin galrauchs.
What should I do with them?
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>>94741804
Good point actually. Highly mobile and flaming attacks.
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>>94741812
Make 1 giant many headed chaos dragon.
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>>94741807
Because
>They are just dull Goblins, slightly taller than snotlings.
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>>94741804
>blazing sun
>posts knights panther banner
You disgust me.
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>>94741838
Are Goblins just racist against asian greenskins?
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>>94741835
So Marienburg is Warhammer Venice? Should've guessed what with the merchant princes leading a functionally independent marine empire that fucks shit up for everyone else every once in a while, but it still caught me by surprise seeing those canals.

Also, salsa on the pic?
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>>94741847
>sees canals
>defaults to venice
uhm, actually its largely based on Amsterdam and other dutch port cities aswell as a good dose of Hamburg and Bremen mixed in.
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>>94741807
Because they don't join orc or goblin tribes. It's the same as hobgoblins not being in orc and goblin armies because other greenskins hate them
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>>94741847
Dutch Republic, Pennis.
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>>94741835
>Rijker's Isle
Man I love these old Warhammer maps
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>>94741769
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HEy guys, unsure if it's here, but I got this model, and I'm trying to find what it is.
High elf, One piece model. He's got a sword in the back.
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>>94742280
From the back.
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>>94742098
Yeah I get that. Having started off with G&F as a wee lad, no other warhammer literature except maybe the Eisenhorn and Bloodlines books from 40k have the same grounded feeling, Eisenhorn less so but with Felix you are seeing the Warhammer world through the eyes of a regular guy you can actually understand the motivations and situations of. The perspective of a regular ass dude helps to put the more crazy aspects of the setting into frame, since as you said if everyone is a stoic and unmoving sociopath who doesn't even have a personality or ambitions outside hewibg people in two with a glowing axe, then the story loses touch with the human condition.
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>>94742280
looks like it may be some sort of Lothern Seaguard Sergeant or maybe an obscure character model.
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>>94742280
>>94742285
What's his hands doing? I can't tell from the photo. Is he casting a spell or meant to be holding a bow?
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Still feeling undeceive about what province my emp will be. I'll just pick whatever the first reply is
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>>94742377
The arms are crossed over the chest.
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>>94742384
Averland
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>>94742392
alright averland it is. i'll post pics in a month or whenever they get their aussie stock shit sorted out
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>>94742406
>whenever they get their aussie stock shit sorted out
See you in 2026
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>>94742388
Well after looking for an hour I can definitively say no idea lmao ask /grog/ they are more qualified.
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>>94742579
Thanks Anon, I'll do that right away.
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>>94741807
Racism, they do not have green skin
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>>94741847
>Salsa on the pic
This Warhammer RPG book, from 1st edition. Here's a link to it:

https://litter.catbox.moe/z0v256.pdf
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Thank you anons in the previous thread. Arbaal is successfully made!
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>>94741847
I think Miragliano and Verezzo would be the Warhammer equivalent of Venice.

The former due to all the canals it has, as well as being close to a swamp, while the later due to the name (The Serene Republic of Verezzo)
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Post the stuff you are working on.

After some hiatus got back on the painting some Arabians, mainly this big ass cannon. Should I add some verdigris and/or give it a base?
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>>94741769
Is it me or do beastmen appear a little bit too uniform in WHF? Like they always seem to be caprine or bovine in appearance.

I always liked the Trollocs from Wheel of Time and how they had a hodgepodge appearance and I imagined beastmen in WHF being like that too.
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>>94743056
currently rebasing my dwarfs for old world.
don't have a pic yet but it's going to be a shitload of dwarfs once i'm done
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>>94741804
>>94741841
Is Order of the Blazing Sun a thing in The Old World? I have kind of been at a loss of what to make my eventual empire army but I like sun imagery and black/yellow/gold usually looks cool.
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>>94740612
>"the awakening" isnt a real location, its just there from TWW.
I'm late but, please see pic.
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>>94741835
I've seen other Marienburg maps but only this one got me to realize the city is shaped like a broken heart. Kino.
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>>94743250
They have rules in the Empire Arcane Journal. Knightly Orders of the Blazing Sun, White Wolf, Panther, Morr, and Fiery Heart all have rules.
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>>94743140
Beastmen are a very poorly thought out faction who are basically Orcs but Different.
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>>94743360
Lore builds them up as crazy unnatural Evil Dead freaks but all they do is bicker about who gets to be chief and steal shit, which is what Orcs do.
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>>94743140
I want to believe the reason they removed beastmen from aos is because they plan on overhauling the concept completely there years from now
not an army of goat people, but an army of spawns
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>>94743245
jesus. i have at least 120 more infantry left to build.
can i play warmaster on 28mm ?
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>>94742847
wonder what the 4e sourcebook will be like since Anthony Ragan is also working on that one apparently
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>>94743250
>Is Order of the Blazing Sun a thing in The Old World
Yes
New journal gives them rules, but it's fucling awful.

Better off using any of the other orders rules.
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>>94741769
>>Thread Question:
>Which tabletop unit is canonically best at fighting Trolls?
No idea, but can confirm vampire scream lists are utter cancer to play against with a trollhorde.
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>>94743397
Wrong. Orcs are fighty barbarians. Beastmen are rapey barbarians.
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>>94743592
Beastmen don't rape
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>>94743140
Beastmen (like allnof Chaos) are the kitbash faction. You can't expect GW to put in all the variations of beastmen that are present in lore so you have to make them yourself
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>>94743056
Sorry for the shitty lighting, my phone makes everything look yellow.
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>>94743613
Yeah they do. Especially Slaaneshi ones.
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>>94743613
Are you the same guy that insisted Dark Elves don't rape?
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>>94743613
Everyone rapes anon. Even elves, humans and daemons do it.
The only ones not raping are orcs because they don't have the bits to donit and dearfs because they are too autistic
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>>94743460
>aos overhauls
Cities of Sigmar sucks though
Gitmobs (hobgoblin replacement) are great
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>>94743460
They're adding Chorfs to Chaos and AoS is already near the managable limit of factions, so they kicked out the least popular part of Chaos to make room for a new Chaos faction.
It's that simple
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Reposting from last thread

>>94740075
>>94740835
Yeah I was pretty surprised myself, but I think what it is is that they wanted to bring back the fimir models because they were one of the better selling Fantasy (including AOS stuff) Forgeworld range, and they only have a certain number of allotted spaces in each army. I guess they already filled in the models they could bring back for Warriors of Chaos and Beastmen and the Sea Patrol's whole thing is binding magical aquatic creatures so this was the next one they could think of.

I understand this isn't great evidence because it'll be revealed after the High Elf stuff, but the Border Princes Arcane Journal will have stuff for running a map campaign, a few AoIs (Black Orcs and Slayers off the top of my head), as well as a list for Dogs of War. The Beastmen book has a Dragon Ogre AoI and one all about shamans with the old Beast avatar thing coming back. Wood Elves get a Forest Spirit List and a Wild Hunt list focusing on cavalry. No idea what's coming out beyond this, but they're hoping to bring it all out by June (but fuck knows given how they're fucked over by GW proper all the time). I know they've written the rules for Kislev and Cathay and the team wanted to release the rules with the launch of the game (it's why they've got their own pages in the core book) but the business side said no, not sure if there are any models designed for them though or if they're even going to get a release.
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>>94743858
They may have repurposed the Cathay army from the time they made a roster for... was it Total War?
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>>94743858
And how do you have this information?
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>>94741769
I need giant snotlings for my snotling horde army, any STLs that could work for that and have a somewhat oldhammer feel? hard to describe what i want so i thought id draw it to help visualize
TREMUL UMIEZ! TREMBUL BEFORR WEGHMUNGUS!
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getting reveals in 10 days anyone want to guess what going to be revealed?
we know it's high elves but their no fun in just guessing that
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>>94743876
If you live in Nottingham or even just spend a lot of time there in the tabletop/miniatures scene (I don't mean just hanging out at warhammer world) it's really not that hard to get this info, especially from the specialist team because they all hate the GW higher ups.

>>94743868
Oh this is just from stuff I've seen online (I think it was Peachy's podcast) but they were planning on releasing Cathay for 8th edition Fantasy, it wasn't that they made an 8th edition book *for* Total War. But the original plan was to have the dragon children and their half dragon kids be more like Dragonborn from D&D. They were trying to make more 'fantastical' armies but then decided not to go ahead because a) End Times and b) they felt it would be too much like D&D.
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>>94743955
accompanying teaser image from the article
The middle one seems the likeliest to be TOW
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/oqstqeya/las-vegas-open-2025-the-first-preview-of-the-year-is-on-its-way/
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>>94743964
Grey Seer or a Bray Shaman?
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>>94743955
Didn't they promise a new Chaos model or two that they said they'd release at a later date?

>>94743964
Looks like a beastman shaman.
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>>94743980
Bray shaman most likely since Skaven don't have rules outside of Legacy
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>>94743981
they already showed off what that would be, so I don't think she is going to be in the reveal.
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>>94743964
That's either a beastman or a wood elf.
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>>94743995
Bummer, we still have a profound lack of ROUSs. Could be a rat, but I think ther3sa deer had in the staff, and that's more Beastmen.

A goat is fine too.
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>>94743964
Weird that they're doing beastmen now when they said High Elves were first. Unless it's a really weird High Elf
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>>94743917
I think the gobbo gang suggestion from last thread is the closest you will get without midelling something yourself.
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>>94743999
Damn I forgot she even existed lmao.
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>>94743999
This could have been a very cool chaos lord model.
Instead, we got this. What a shame.
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Almost every faction in WH history could field numerous core infantry units and be good on the tabletop but not HE and DE. It literally sucks that they never managed to get them right especially since spearelves and xbows/longbows are so iconic.
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>>94743917
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>>94744048
That's a BIG gob
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>>94744047
God, Helf art always looks amazing.

Anyone got the full version of this picture? I only ever found it uncolored.
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>>94743964
Funny how AoS is getting what looks like another mounted Wight King model.
Or it might be new Black Knights.
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>>94744125
it's new black knights, they're about to get grave guards and black knights updated

that means the core of the previous vampire counts kits are becoming free and TOW will be able to reintroduce the army when they feel like it
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>>94744109
>>94744047
Dainton is probably the best all rounder WH illustrator of old.
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>>94743955
maybe I'm out of touch, but Las Vegas sounds about as Tabletop Warhammer Nerd as you can get.
What kind of venue is that?
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>>94743917
>giant snotlings
You have autism anon
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>>94744147
>it's new black knights, they're about to get grave guards and black knights updated
Wonder how will they look like. I guess that aos skirmish warband is a new aestethics template?
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>>94743995
>Surprise reveal of Skaven as a core faction
>It's a joint release with High Elves
>They're re-releasing the Isle of Blood box
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Y NO ARCANE JOURNAL EMPIRE PDF IN OP
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>>94744202
It's not released yet retard
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>>94744202
Because TOW Empire is so inferior that no one bothers.
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>>94744047
Because elves were always problematic in WH points wise and elven infantry is and was 80% of the problem.
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>>94744181
skaven have almost all kits free for their full reintroduction with their 6th-7th ed range

they would have to give up on the hellpit abomination, stormfiends and plague furnace, and use the oldschool metal doomwheel, verminlord and screaming bell

aos just needs to update or give up on plague monks and night runners
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>>94744047
Gee Bill how come your mom lets you carry four swords?
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>>94743964
From left to right:
>Emperor's Children model of some sort (doom sirens on the back)
>plastic Thanatar robot
>???
>???
>VC model, either lord on nightmare or a sword&board WK on steed
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>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/df2beqmo/chop-dragons-down-to-size-with-the-legendary-wyrm-slayer-of-bretonnia/
Only took them a year.
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>>94744284
I think the centipede beast is something for Necromunda. Aren't they doing Sump Sea stuff?
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>>94743999
She look like my fucking boss...
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>>94744297
>Only took them a year.
Empire still isn't up for preorder to Australia. Their production capacity is overwhelmed.
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>>94744316
British chemical industry is fucking dead and they have to recieve all raw materials from chyna.

Its a long way around the horn of africa pls understand.
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>>94744281
You're mistaking a quiver for a sword
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>>94744313
Could be that, or some ambient beastie for warcry. Or a spell marker.
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>>94744332
Gee Bill how come your mom lets you carry three swords?
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Do nuclanrats fit 20mm bases?
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>>94744359
I don't think so. Warcry isn't listed as getting shit, and all the other silhouettes are for miniatures not spell effects or terrain.
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>>94744169
Yes, and? Let me have my dream of leading a glorious horde of snotties to victory.
>>94744034
Its ok, but its too high detail. the STL's im using for snotlings have a somewhat oldhammer aesthetic to them, and they'd clash with the more detailed model.
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>>94744297
Looks sad. Not a nad model but hardly heroic or insiring.
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>>94744386
I don't know why the hell would you want giant snotlings but there is a good looking free stl on printables
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What is more fun and interresting to collect and play - Warriors of chaos or greenskin tribrs ?
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>>94744404
> why the hell would you want giant snotlings
Because the army im making (a Snotling Hordes list for 6th ed) has Giants in it. I want Giant Snotlings instead of regular ones because its funny, and makes sense to me in my fantasy of the army more than actual regular giants following along a horde of snotlings. I'm imagining the Snotties bumped off a wizard and found a scroll of giant sizing, its silly and and fun.
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>>94744408
O&G no doubt.
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>>94744408
Fun to play? Probably Orcs and Joblins.

Fun to collect? Probably Chaos, you get a lot more opportunities to paint differently as well as convert neat stuff with chaotic armies.
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>>94744047
That helmet looks very excessive. Strong wind from the front must be his worst enemy.
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>>94744368
>3 swords
>spear
>shield
>quiver
>no bow
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>>94744047
The 8e elf covers were fantastic.
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>>94744315
Reminds me of Mrs trunchbull from matilda
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>>94744434
>Fun to collect? Probably Chaos
Nah, that still goes to greenies
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>>94744368
Its one sword and two daggers
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>>94744441
Yeah, probably the only good thing about those books. Also 7th HE/DE cover and WE 6th.
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>>94744450
How is he going to pull out that chart strapped dagger? I feel like this art would have been perfect without it, looks do dumb.
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>>94744388
Seconding. >>94744297

Its not a BAD model, but its not a particularly inspired or exciting one. If the AOS chosen are "character models used as regular dudes" then this is a unit champion used as a character, hes just so plain and uninteresting.

The axe in particular is a big let down, its supposed to be this badass dragonslayer thing, but it just looks like the plainest old hatchet you can imagine. The pose is also very restrained to the point of detriment.
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>>94744462
>chart
chest
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>>94744462
Using his hand if its free from not holding his shield or spear?
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>>94744297
so which special characters don't have models yet to be revealed?
the goblin on wolf and Thorgrim are the only two i can think of so far
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>>94744518
Anon you can literally try doing that motion yourself, its really not hard or inconvenient to reach.
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>>94743964
>black knights keeping the ugly as sin vampire symbology
Fucking gross, now im never getting those models.
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>>94744465
Yeah, this are looks like it was acquired from some peasant blacksmith.
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>>94744528
What?
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>>94744535
I wouldnt go that far, but it certainly looks both kinda crude (almost orcy, with how wide the axe blades "base" is) and also not big or nasty enough to be impressive that way.
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>>94744540
the over the top aesthetic that black knights and grave guard has, its ugly. I was hoping that with the removal of the von cumstains they would redesign it or move away from it but nope. Gotta keep the goofy looking bats on the armor.
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>>94741843
Yes.
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>>94744297
A further comment on his looks: its a very different character to his art (not that we see too much of him, but the portrait exists)

In his header image he looks stoic, like a hardened warrior (and has a goatee).
In the model he has a more rounded and frankly older looking face with different facial hair, and has a generally more "upbeat" poste and demeanor, like a jolly old man encouraging the chaps onwards.
it doesent help that the paint job made him look a little bit like stephen fry playing an old(er) dude.

Personally I would have went with a more stoic pose for the model, something closer to what dwarf characters and longbeards something get. His face would be more stern and focussed, hes not there to have fun, he just sees shit to kill and is going to do it with a grim determination
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>>94744434
>Fun to collect
>chaos
Unless you mean collecting the entire chaos range ever produced without thoughts of making a functional army than yes, but pure warriors of chaos force is probably the dullest of all supported factions.
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>>94744528
>my vampire units.... have the vampire aesthetic?!?
yes you retard

>>94744549
Your crying makes even less sense in the context of AoS, because unlike WHFB wights (that are largely just raised barrow warriors clad in their ancestral gear) the undead there come from some fucking realm of the dead ruled by nagash where everything looks super OTT undead. So its not even "huh, these ancient humans had conveniently vampire themed armor" but "the millenia old vampire nations had their undead blacksmiths make their undead soldiers undead looking armor, because thats the aestehtic of the entire fucking kingdom"
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>>94744564
>made him look a little bit like stephen fry playing an old(er) dude
He reminds me more of Barliman Butterbur from PJ lotr.
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>>94744564
the art for reference
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>>94744585
>>94744297
man they really dropped the ball. Ideally he comes with a closed visor variant
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>>94744576
>vampires
>skeletons
Pick one, and only one.
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>>94744573
Pure "chaos warriors" already has an order of magnitude more hobbying freedom and opportunity than basically any other army. Or do you think the sum of what "collecting" means is just buying models and building them per the instructions and as seen on the GW website?
Although even then the sheer variety of high quality kits puts warriors at a fairly comfortable spot.


>>94744583
That too. Although I was thinking more "the master of laketown"

>>94744585
See, that guy looks like an angry french officer or something. You can just feel the typical frog-eating arrogance on his face and the disdain for anyone not speaking his particular dialect of his godsforsaken tongue.
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>>94744589
Skeletons are part of the vampire faction, always have been, always will be.
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>>94744589
You're a fucking idiot
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>>94744408
Greenskins are the current flavor of the month because their book is stupidly busted, so if you just want to win games without any effort then them.
Warriors have the better long term potential in terms of hobbying/gameplay variety.
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>>94744549
It's mostly not bats, it's dragons. And they apparently get changed by ambient magic to look spookier even if they were originally just normal proto-imperials.
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>>94744601
Mmmm you mean the necromancer faction sweety, we don’t run those gay cum guzzling neets in the old world.
>>94744604
I accept your concession.
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>>94744609
Greenskins are busted in tow, yes, still doesn't change the fact that orcs and goblins models/themes/style is cooler than whfb SM wannabies with naked, gay, buff marauders sidekicks from the north.
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>>94744628
>that orcs and goblins models/themes/style is
Low quality, generic and one-note.
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>>94744618
>doesn't get WH, spergs on faction aestethics and background that's older than him
>gay cum guzzling neets
Ok, retarded zoomoid
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>>94744631
Lmao, at least try
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>>94743262
Was I supposed to be looking at something in particular? Way too much shit in that pic.
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>>94744637
I dont think vampire counts always had the over the top asthetics. I mean the current grave guard and black knights are a what, 6th? 7th edition invention?
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>>94744643
nta but the subtitle of the temple city of Huatl it Awakeining
also, this more recent map is worse for too much shit
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>>94744653
The metal ones before them also had dragon wings and assorted halloween tat all over them.
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Anyone remember that ind "campaign" people in the thread had a couple years back?
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>>94744662
Where's New Bechafen supposed to be in Lustria?
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>>94744750
South of the blood swamps on the bank of the river Qurvesa
a bit west of the map
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>>94744428
>>94744434
>>94744609

Will most likely go with greenskin, as they seems to have more ways to play them, with a lot of ranged, mounted, monster and warmachine options

Though the wolves of the sea does sounds like it could be great fun
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>>94744775
Wolves of the sea is cool, but it suffers from the fact that marauders are really underdeveloped aspect of the faction models wise.
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>>94744816
The models is the main thing preventing me from doing them
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>>94743664
I get it but surely they could have some beastman heads of dogs or pigs too?
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>Should I play X or Greenskin?
The answer is always to go green.
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cant you just play wolves of the sea and proxy the entire army with beastmen
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>>94744862
Theoretically you could if your opponents are all cool with it but why
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I was just playing a bit of Ratclick when a wave of Post-Rat Clarity hit me.

What we really need is a less bombastic ratclick game, but a more awkward small scale one. A game about drudging through Sewers where every scrap with a goblin or a skaven is a life and death matter. Combat being a mix of a Dark Souls and those physics driven games like exanima and halfsword, but less awkwardly flailing.

Game should have a preset sewer system beneath the system which you can carefully map and clear out, patrol, but also have a prodecually generated maze of skaven and goblin tunnels beneath that sewer system, which each savegame has a unique layout of and can only be mapped by the individual player/group for the ultimate dungeon crawling experience.
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>>94743680
Slaaneshi don't rape in general

>>94743693
No? All the slaver factions (DE/norsca/chorfs) explicitly rape.

>>94743710
Only nurglite and maybe the occasional undivided demon rape, though.
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>>94744862
no, since Wolves of the Sea can take Beastmen Gors and Ungors as mercenaries so it might cause some confusion there
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>>94744868
So you'd be a rat catcher?
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>>94744891
only if the player can get a small but vicious dog
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>>94744868
sounds lame
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>>94744867
>why
beastmen mixed with warriors of chaos is kino
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>>94744891
General Sewerjack like Gotrek and Felix start off as in Skavenslayer.
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>>94744868
so single-player Dark and Darker but the only enemies are Skaven and Goblins
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>>94744643
Look at the vampire coast area.
"The Awakening" is the nickname (or translation?) of Huatl city temple.
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>>94744874
>Slaaneshi don't rape in general
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>>94744939
why is the Temple of Kara in a completely different place on this map compared to the other two?
even weirder they replaced it with a completely different location in the Royal Palace of Ganaina
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>>94744934
Very low-tier adventure. Where a hungry swarm of rats could be a genuine threat, and a single skaven is a fight, and a group of 4 is a pitched battle.
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>>94744939
Are the turtle isles the galapagos islands?
That's really clever if yes
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>>94744952
it's a High elf colony where they do unethical experiments on Beastmen
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>>94744816
Are there really no cool alternative models for marauders, like highlander for orcs ?
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>>94744874
>Slaaneshi don't rape in general
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>>94744769
So New Bechafen is the City of the Dead? Got it. No wonder I never found it on a map under the NB name.
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>>94744868
>A game about drudging through Sewers where every scrap with a goblin or a skaven is a life and death matter
Play V1 on Nightmare with the vanilla bots.
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>>94745028
Ratclick is too grand a scale. I want something scrappier.
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>>94744962
>Patrician Island
Which armies' players can reside there?
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>>94745020
>So New Bechafen is the City of the Dead?
no it's on the mainland not on the island
The City of the Dead is Lizardmen Temple city
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>>94745037
it's an island where High elves torture Beastmen and Dark elves as an experiment
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>>94745069
Is there where Jeffreylin Episteineth is rumored to have a manor full of underage beastwomen?
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>>94745069
The Island of Prince Morelion
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anyone know how many shields and great weapons that are in the black orc box ?
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Do I paint marauder horsemen or a dragon next?
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>>94745227
You should paint a Dragon.
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>>94744386
>but its too high detail.
A larger Snotling is gonna higher detailed. I doubt the style difference between the tiny models and the large one would be very noticable as one has to look very closely to make out the oldhammer snotling details.
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>>94745227
Use the dragon as a reward for painting a basic unit
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>>94745227
Depends on how far along the army is. If most are finished I'd go for the horsemen, but if most aren't I'd start with the dragon since your opponents focus will be drawn to there.
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>>94744573
I respectfully disagree, anon. Not that I think orcs and goblins aren't a great army to collect, mind you, but I think you're dead wrong about chaos warriors being boring. Almost fourty years of sculpts to choose from for your characters, two excellent plastic kits for your basic troops (and dozens of metal warrior variants, too), the freedom to paint them however you want, with the rules themselves incentivizing you to paint each unit completely differently, if you so desire, and the wonderful, wonderful theme of warriors damning themselves in exchange for power. How can you possibly think that collecting and playing such an army could be dull?
That being said, I can agree that the current rules for chaos are a bit one-note. Bring back mortals, daemons and beasts under one banner and you'll see how great chaos can be.
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>>94743056
Working on my Choppa regiment of boys
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>>94743056
Just ordering stuff for my project 2025
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>>94745351
Mostly finished.
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>>94745391
I'd definitely get the horsemen done then but Dragon is definitely the stand-out everyone will look at.
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>>94744444
Prophecy witnessed! We should rename the character accordingly.
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How is this for a casual starter list?


Black Orc Bigboss [95 pts]
(Hand weapon, Great weapon, Full plate armour, General, War Boar)

Night Goblin Oddnob [160 pts]
(Hand weapon, Level 4 Wizard, On foot, Illusion)

18 Black Orc Mob [260 pts]
(Hand weapons, Full plate armour, 10x Shields, 8x Great weapons, Boss (champion), Standard bearer, Musician)

14 Night Goblin Mob [56 pts]
(Hand weapons, Shortbows)

Goblin Bolt Throwa [45 pts]
Goblin Bolt Throwa [45 pts]

4 Orc Boar Boy Mob [100 pts]
(Hand weapons, Cavalry spears, Heavy armour, Shields, Big 'Uns, Boss (champion), Standard bearer, Musician)

4 Orc Boar Boy Mob [92 pts]
(Hand weapons, Cavalry spears, Heavy armour, Shields, Boss (champion), Standard bearer, Musician)

3 Stone Troll Mob [144 pts]
(Hand weapons, Troll vomit, Additional hand weapons, Light armour)
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>>94743056
just sold the last of my heresy armies and will be picking up 5 Empire kits on Saturday, can't wait for a clean slate army for 2025!
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>>94741769
Any Chorf enjoyers in here? I've been painting up a bunch of them but I don't know exactly how to base them. How did you base them, or how would you base them?
At the moment I'm thinking of recreating the Darklands basically. Not the volcanic plates that you see so often but the scorched desert look, really dark brown with red and grey undertones. Mordor basically.
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>>94744999
King, Thorpe or McNeill trash?
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>>94744868
Sounds like nowdays London actually. And hey, you have all of that on the surface in broda daylight.
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>>94745447
Probably the defenders of ulthuan series, sounds like its from the invasion.
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>>94745419
not enjoying the current HH meta then?
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>>94745447
>you see, the followers of the God of Hedonism that worship physical sensation and violent pleasure would never rape, not even in their most demonic and barbaric iteration
>only a trash writer would write that
Nigga, real world scandies raped. Why wouldn't scandies high on literal demon cocaine not rape, given the chance?
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>>94745360
WAAAGH!!!>......chaos
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>>94744874
>Slaaneshi don't rape in general
Yes anon, the worshippers of the god of hedonism and excess - with heavy ties to the sensual and the carnal - would NEVER rape. Its just beneath them. They actually believe in no sex before marriage and the sanctity of matrimony.
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>>94745445
I went for lava but considered a slag-heap style of base or something industrial with chemical spills, yellow sulphur or even something like oil/tar pits. I think it depends on the chorf armour scheme though, often they are black or dark red so they need bright bases to stand out.
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>>94745473
NTA but some BL writers are clearly GRR level incels who can't help thenselves
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>>94745474
Dis, any git dat says it ain't can zog off
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>>94745469
eh it never really started since the plastics I was hoping for didn't release so there was no direction to take the army after the AoD box. The rules aren't great for my preferences but I don't mind being outside a meta so long as I can fulfil my narrative/army fantasy.
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>>94744999
Those are norscans, it explicitly says so (also the use of "rape" in that context in no way suggests that it is being used to mean sexual assault, rather than looting/burning/etc. of the locale)

>>94744947
Yes

>>94745473
Because the god of excess is actually seductive, so much so that units will literally stand there and give up attacks in combat and let you stab them to death?
You're retarded, and asking a retarded question. It's not "why wouldn't they get their dick wet", it's "why wouldn't it be consensual". Again, see >>94744874
>Why wouldn't scandies high on literal demon cocaine not rape, given the chance?
Norscans do rape, they're not slaaneshi woc/beastmen/daemons.

>>94745480
>Yes anon, the worshippers of the god of hedonism and excess - with heavy ties to the sensual and the carnal - would NEVER rape. Its just beneath them
Correct.
You're projecting mightily if you think that slaaneshi champions don't have the consent of the people who help them indulge their fetishes.
>They actually believe in no sex before marriage and the sanctity of matrimony.
Such is certainly permitted to them if it's their desire, yes.
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>>94745447
>>94745460
From Tyrion & Teclis trilogy (the 1st tome).
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>>94745566
>the use of "rape" in that context in no way suggests that it is being used to mean sexual assault, rather than looting/burning/etc. of the locale
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Stuff I'd like to have
>a unit of Boyz
>a slayer of legend
>a unit of basic skeletons
>an ushabti (arms optional?)
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>>94745566
>also the use of "rape" in that context in no way suggests that it is being used to mean sexual assault
No, it actually does suggest that by having "pillaging" right after "raping". Pillaging would fall under your idea of rape but clearly those two are separate in the context of the passage, just how maiming, killing and torturing are also different. I can accept your interpretation of Slaanesh and I do see why Norscan raiders would be different from Slaaneshi champions but don't be ridiculous.
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>>94745640
>>94745598
Raping has been used in that way and in combination with other terms (i.e. raping and pillaging) by authors simply to mean looting and plundering for hundreds of years.
I've not suggested that that's the author's intention here (indeed, there are norscans on the scene afterall), merely pointing it out as not being definitive.
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>>94745566
>"why wouldn't it be consensual"
Because they're killing, burning and pillaging their way through these women's homes? Their weapons dripping with the blood of their fathers, brothers, husbands and sons?
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>>94745660
And?
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>>94745566
>Because the god of excess is actually seductive
So are witch elves, and they do very canonical rape. Like "its there in plain fucking writing" sexual assault. Having magical sex-musk or simply being very attractive doesent mean you cant or wont rape someone you fucking moron. Does your argument really rest on "well, the champions of slaanesh all have the magical drug-smell that melts peoples brains, so obviously whatever sex they have must be consensual"?

>. It's not "why wouldn't they get their dick wet", it's "why wouldn't it be consensual". Again, see
So because some freaky cultists have orgies with beastmen then beastmen dont rape? What fucking logic is this.

>Correct.
Are you fucking stupid?

>You're projecting mightily if you think that slaaneshi champions don't have the consent of the people who help them indulge their fetishes.
Youre absolutely fucking delusional if you think any champion of slaanesh gives a single shit about consent, and wouldnt simply take whatever woman he thought would please him whenever he wanted to.
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>>94745566
>also the use of "rape" in that context in no way suggests that it is being used to mean sexual assault, rather than looting/burning/etc. of the locale
And there I thought that dude who was adamant there was nothing suggestive in that malus darkblade passage was the most delusional fucker in the thread.
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>>94745649
> by authors simply to mean looting and plundering for hundreds of years.

Anon they meant raping AND pillaging
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>>94745728
>in hand-to-hand combat
Give me a stat sheet for High Elf civilian women and you might have a point

Also,
>Champions or Sorcerers of Slaanesh only
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>>94745744
Not always, and they didn't change the verbiage when they didn't.

>>94745730
>Youre absolutely fucking delusional if you think any champion of slaanesh gives a single shit about consent
They're absolutely allowed to care or not care about whatever specifications they want.
>and wouldnt simply take whatever woman he thought would please him whenever he wanted to.
You're greatly underselling the extent and degree of the excesses a champion of slaanesh would be involved in. Slaaneshi warriors have no reason to engage in casual and unoptimized sex with randoms simply as a matter of convenience, they're engaged in a lifetime journey of relentless personal improvement and greater debauchery.

The rest of your post (and the quoted sections) is disingenuous and retarded to the point of being incoherent, though.
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>>94745781
>They're absolutely allowed to care or not care about whatever specifications they want.
Anon, being a champion of chaos requires being a sociopath, you do not become a champion of slaanesh by engaging in safe boundaries regarding your depraved fantasies.

Yes, SOME worshippers of slaanesh might care about consent, in the same way some might care about safe drug and alcohol habits or not eating too much. Those people are not chaos champions, those people are barely fucking cultists. Slaanesh is the god of excess, and excess is "too much of shit".

>Slaaneshi warriors have no reason to engage in casual and unoptimized sex with randoms simply as a matter of convenience
Beyond the fulfillment of base carnal desires you mean? Or are you going to be a fucking retard and try pretend that slaaneshy excess is actually some alien and abstract form of decadent overindulgence removed from conventional understandings (something we know is objectively not the case, as seen with something as "simple" as wine being an avid interest of fucking sigvald)

Slaaneshy champions have sex, regular old sex, it might be sex that involves sticking a spiked club up someones ass or violating someone through an open wound, but its still something which falls within the bounds of "the shit you can find if you look online".
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>>94745419
thought this was a beautiful ebony queen under her armour till i realized it's just a body glove... robbed
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>>94745861
It is if you want her to be.
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>>94745867
New levels of understanding have been opened to me.
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>>94745857
>Yes, SOME worshippers of slaanesh might care about consent, in the same way some might care about safe drug and alcohol habits or not eating too much. Those people are not chaos champions, those people are barely fucking cultists. Slaanesh is the god of excess, and excess is "too much of shit".
You're retarded

Some worshippers of slaanesh care about consent BECAUSE IT IS THEIR FETISH
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Was Araby a mistake, anons? Since GW has literally come out and said, as openly as they dare, that they won't ever touch Araby as a concept for fear of angry real-life equivalents attacking their workers and burning down their stores, would Warhammer have been better off if GW had just never included a human civilization in not!Arabia, the same way they never included any in not!Africa?
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>>94745918
This is some pretty pathetic goal moving you're doing.
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>>94745943
You're just retarded and don't understand what the words you or others use mean
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>>94745943
>>94745955
you people are so weird for caring so much about rape
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>>94745955
Nah, nigga, you're just pathetic trying to say Slaanesh worshippers don't rape.
I'm not even the other anons telling you you're wrong.
Just another one pointing out that yes, you are so very wrong.
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>>94741807

Because nobody trusts them.
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>>94745974
isn't that only Hobgoblins?
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>>94745566
>Those are norscans, it explicitly says so (also the use of "rape" in that context in no way suggests that it is being used to mean sexual assault, rather than looting/burning/etc. of the locale)
The first human joining his army were the Norscan yes.
But the text >>94744999 literally say more sailors form the old world joined him then + Beastmen.
>(also the use of "rape" in that context in no way suggests that it is being used to mean sexual assault, rather than looting/burning/etc. of the locale)
Delusional.
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>>94745986

...yeah, I keep getting those two mixed up for some reason. Although they do both come from roughly the same part of the map interestingly. So it's possible that maybe Gnoblars are to Snotlings what Hobgoblins are to Goblins?
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>>94745918
And some slaanesh worshippers care about safe drug use because thats just what theyre into!
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>>94741807
Because gnoblars dont like the other greenskins due to habitual mistreatment. So they hang around ogres for safety.
Gnoblars are in this shitty spot where theyre more pathetic than goblins and not as endearing as snotlings, so they get the raw end of the stick near other greenskins which all pick on them.
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>>94746061
Are gnoblars actually their own thing? Always figured they were just some variation of gob, like hobgobs.
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>>94745996
>The first human joining his army were the Norscan yes.
>But the text >>94744999 literally say more sailors form the old world joined him then + Beastmen.
Yes, and?
So there are at least two groups of rapists in the army without needing to comment on whether or not beastmen/daemons rape.

>>94746031
All drug use is safe drug use if you're cool enough
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Just close the site, open your porn folder and jack off instead of polluting the thread with your fetish autism. It was bad enough last time.
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>>94746086
>slightly more savage men raping?
>A-ok

>literal demons and inhuman abominations borne of men and beast communing under demonic influence raping?
>no way jose

I legitimately don't get what your reasoning is.
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>>94746107
>I legitimately don't get what your reasoning is.
Humans rape because they have human reasons to rape.
Inhuman beings would need their own reasons to rape, which they don't have here. Compare/contrast, nurgle, who does rape
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>>94746086
Nothing point toward the Norscan being the only ones to rape.
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Beastbros... We are so fvcking back
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>>94746082
They are, theyre a goblinoid species like hobs and regular gobbos. But they even weedier and dumber than regular goblins, so they end up victimized in greenskin society.
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>>94746198
Reminds me of the old nurgle wizard with how chubby it looks. Anyways couldn’t care for beastmen unless they bring the fine cast range to plastic.
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>>94746142
Anon, ANIMALS rape. Humans rape because they want sexual gratification and don't care about being right or wrong. Why would a hedonistic elf or pleasure obsessed slaanesh worshiper or anthropomorphic goat man NOT rape if morality isn't in question to them?
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>>94746248
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>>94746248
don't forget the Fimir no discussion of Warhammer rape is complete without them
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>>94746278
Of course, of course. Luckily, beastmen carry the rape torch
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>>94746278
No more rapy if you want to be part of the crew.
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>>94746309
Is there lore of sea guard spreading human/delf ass?
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>>94746198
That's a lore of beasts wizard. Calling it now.
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These look like tits lol. I'm putting mine further down the shoulder for sure
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>>94746248
Elves obviously rape, that's never been in contention.
>pleasure obsessed slaanesh worshiper NOT rape
Pick one
>it's not rape if you want it
>slaanesh worshipers are better lays and are readily available, not fucking them would be an insult to your God
>they have largely transcended basic physical needs
Norscans still rape if they follow the eagle, what I'm objecting to is specifically the idea of (slaaneshi) WoC and daemons being prolific rapists. Non-prince daemons especially shouldn't be shackled by human desires.

>or anthropomorphic goat man NOT rape
Options are
>they've earnt a slaaneshi mark and(/or) qualify for one of the above
>it's funny
The latter is the reason why I always post enemy within, if that wasn't clear
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>>94746339
Empire release is already over and we have already seen their elemental/ghurish wizard, unless you mean a beastman lore of beasts wizard
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>>94746357
So are you agreeing with me or...? I'm saying rape is absolutely a part of Warhammer, im dunking on the person that was saying only nurgle followers and chaos furies rape
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>>94746357
>>they have largely transcended basic physical needs
That is literally the opposite of slaanesh. The entire point is to embrace and indulge in your base physical needs, to wallow in the filth of your own depravity.
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>>94746465
Desires aren't needs, retard
>wallow in the filth
lol
lmao

>>94746380
You're literally too stupid for anyone to be having a conversation with you
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>>94746380
NTA
Of course rape is part of Warhammer world. Archaon is LITERALLY A RAPE BABY - which was told in an official novel.

As for beastmen liking to rape - they are beasts that follow every animalistic and primitive whim - this is how their chaotic nature is represented. Not to mention their archetype comes from Pan, Faun and Satyr - which were known for their love for good drink and pussy. Satyr even had permanent boner.
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Maybe /wfg/ needs to get raped
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>>94746521
There are no feathered dolls around to make it possible, though
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>>94746521
So true, mandatory goat cock piping for every single cunt here
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>>94746521
So just a giant ring of sweaty men cock-in-ass to the guy in front until it loops around?
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>>94745920
Araby was not a mistake modern uk is.
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>>94746521
Impossible rape does not exist
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>majority of posts is about rape
/wfg/ was a mistake
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>>94746604
Explain nurglel then
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>>94746627
They spred Plague of Consent so it is not rape
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>>94746658
That's not true or canon at all
Nrugel is explicitly nonconsensual. That's the wohle point
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Non-consensual reminder
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>>94746698
Wrong
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>>94746698
Does that mean Tzeentch gaslights you into thinking it was your idea to be raped and it's your fault?
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>>94746759
no
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>>94746773
Tzeentch consensually rapes you then retracts their consent after the fact, retroactively making you the rapist
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>>94746867
So pic related
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>>94743677
I love those old ass skaven sculpts. Lots of character
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A chaos marauder guy I've been working on.
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>>94747002
half troll looking nibba
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/wfg/ - sexual violence general
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>>94747359
rape is sovl
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>>94747359
I WILL sculpt a penis onto my centaur if people keep shitposting.
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>>94747364
Degeneracy and schizophrenia speak.
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>>94747371
it not like that stops GW
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>>94747371
That still won't make it rape
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I think the guy adamantly trying to refute any possibility of rape is a GW employee. Trying to sanitize the discourse around the setting to make it more palatable for the general audience.
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>>94747390
Mental illness.
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>>94747386
I have some of the old GW slave girts, I CAN chain one to his penis.
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>>94747372
nah rape has been a component of good stories since the Epic of Gilgamesh.
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>>94747390
on 4chan?
i could kinda get it if this was a GW store and it was a red shirt telling us the shut up but it's fucking 4chan
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>>94747371
Victor Hardy's Bloodthirster and centigor are seared into my brain.
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>>94747429
Gilgamesh (chaos lord) and his buddy enkidu (beastman) go on adventures. Peak SOVL
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>>94747415
That still won't make it rape

>>94747390
I don't think a single person has said there isn't rape
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when a new thread is made some better make it Raped themed
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>>94747444
I will make a diorama of st*rlander ugly bastards gang raping one of those fat female nu-marauders.
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>>94747472
only if they are also eating fish pies and warmed beer as well
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>>94747506
No fish pies, only half-rotten donkey cocks and soggy cabbage.
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>>94747513
what about the Warmed Beer though?
that is a sin against all good beverages
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>>94747523
depends on the beer
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>>94747553
it's stirlander beer
it's going to taste and smell like warm piss
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>>94747563
isn't Stirland basically Bavaria? As a rural county it probably makes great beer.
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>>94747580
>isn't Stirland basically Bavaria?
no, i think that would be Wissenland or Averland, Stirland is a bit to flat and poor for that comparison
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What weapon choices do the empire knights come with?
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>>94747854
the standard Box you can get in TOW
Lances and One-handed hammers
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>>94747854
cav hammers or lances, plus some swords for command.
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>>94747868
>>94747869
Thanks!
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>>94746135
>Inhuman beings would need their own reasons to rape, which they don't have here
Anon, stop being a faggot and read Slaves to Darkness. Slaanesh is 100% about creepy rape cults and all the 'excess' talk of later additions is just GW being coy.

>>94745728
>using supernatural powers to paralyse my victims (because they would violently oppose me if I didn't) means they consented to me fucking them
I bet you think slipping a girl a roofie is a love potion too.
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Feels really bad that you can't have flagellants as core if you have a lector as general.
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>>94742914
He looks rather undefeated anon, good job
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>>94747909
Oh no consensual orgies between cultists who get along with each other, how terrible

>paralyse [sic]
weak bait
Acquiescence, the prototype for the entire idea from the same book, is
>a blissful, euphoric state
The only people that it harms are servants of khorne. Here's the full text:
>Servants of Khorne: The victim's personality is subjected to an unwelcome but ecstatic pitch of voluptuous enjoyment. His nervous system cracks under the strain, and his mind boils. While this is happening the victim spends D6 turns staggering D4''/D4x2 yards in a random direction, after which he collapes and dies of uncontrollable delight. Such a fate is an anathema to all true servants of Khorne, and they hate all the Slaaneshi with a special venom because of it.
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Just a reminder to the 40kids that inevitably will start this shit again for the thousandth time
>his/her cults
Very first time slaanesh ever existed in a GW product
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>>94748178
>paralyse [sic]
Not that Anon, but that's the correct way to spell it in British English
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>>94747002
Wild good anon. I’m working on a batch of old emp halberdiers myself
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>>94746135
>Inhuman beings would need their own reasons to rape
Literally the core point of chaos is that it represents the base "human" emotions you fucking retard.
Some abstract inhuman entity would not map onto chaos as we know it, thats why you dont have fucking lizardmen worshippers of chaos, because those actually ARE alien and inhuman. A chaos warrior or elf or dwarf or even beastman is explicitly and purposefully similar to a human, which is why they (and humans) all fall to the same fucking chaos gods.
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>>94748923
A chaos warrior of khorne and a normal human worshipper of khorne have the same base drives linking them to khorne, thats why theyre both worshippers of KHORNE
A chaos warrior of nurgle and a regular human worshipper of nurgle both embrace the same aspects, because those aspects ARE what makes nurgle
A chaos warrior of slaanesh or a beastman of slaanesh or a regular human worshipper of slaanesh all worship slaanesh to feed the same base impulses, because thats what makes them all worshippers of SLAANESH rather than different chaos gods.

You dont sign up to the freaky sex and drug cult to then become a fucking eunuch the second you get given your bitching armor and superpowers you absolute fucking mental.
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Doesn't Sigvald like to rape and eat women?
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>>94748923
Chaos gods don't correspond to human emotions you absolute fucking subhuman
This isn't 40kids
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Ostermark should be better
>plenty of resources
>international border with Kislev for trade
>sea access
>inb4 chaos marauders
Nordland has that too and it's much better
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>>94749040
No, he likes to mass debate to himself while looking in the mirror and doing squats. That's infinitely more perverted and horrifying.
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>>94749144
All fine, but your pic is Ostland, not Ostermark.
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>>94749152
my bad, I meant Ostland
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rape chads rise up
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>>94749144
That big border with Kislev isn't as much of a benefit as it seems. Ostland is the first line of defence against major overland chaos invasions, so the place is pretty messed up
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>>94747472
Imagine being forced to rape picrel. Grim.
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>ctrl+f rape
>69 results
What the hell is this thread?
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>>94749989
the beastmen broke down the fortifications, the last of the guard are holding the inner castle
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rape is funny lol

this is my warboss i guess lmao lol i lost his shield and I fucked up his base lowkey but
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>>94749907
>plapping fat bitches is le bad because it just is
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>>94750060
>beastmen
>broke down the fortification
Happened only one time mayby. In Hochland. What happens here is cultist outbreak
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>>94749989
No fucking wonder fantasy had to die, with people like this it deserved to get ended
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>>94749144
>north: chaos and kislev
>south: undead
>east: greens
>west: mayby beastmen
Ostermark is cool precisely because it's frontier bastion
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Anyone tried to run some sort of map based campaign ?
Any do's and don'ts ?
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>>94750314
There's literally system for that called Mighty Empires. And the only problem is as usual: players frequency. Everything goes to shit when people are not playing on regular
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>>94750327
I remember reading up on that a long time ago, it sounds okay.
Just wandered if there was anything better
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>>94750359
I think ME is pretty much great. It's relatively simple and has number of easily implemented failsafes pretending snowballing. Btw it's fun minigame in itself. I'm talking about 6/7th edition era ME, there was other one from the 90's and it's much more complex. Check out General's Compendium as well and/or Mordheim map based campaign made by Pirinen few years ago on FB, it's available on broheim. It's (obviously) City map territory-holding "campaign" but can be easily converned into whfb.
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>>94750417
>pretending
preventing
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>>94747563
According to rpg
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>>94745360
NTA
>How can you possibly think that collecting and playing such an army could be dull?
Because it's just chaos warriors on foot/horses/chariots and marauders on foot/horses with rare monster here and there? That's aestethics, gameplay wise warriors and beastmen are boring indeed, having no say in shooting phase and no real shenanigans units means that you can't really have any strategy other than engaging in melee asap. Greenskins have myriad of diverse units having their own unique rules and gameplay styles.
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>>94750417
Will see if I can find the newest ME somewhere, Thanks! ..

Will most likely have to modify it, as we mainly are 3-4 people playing together
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Tyrion was a mistake. He's fucking boring and badly written, they is my least favorite or literally antifavorite HE character. Teclis has some redeeming factors and actually would have been ok without his brother and that cringe le Curse.
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>>94750494
>Will most likely have to modify it, as we mainly are 3-4 people playing together
Pretty much optimum numbers. You can easily find ME on scribd, naturally use some scribd downloader external site.
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>>94749144
Are you talking about Ostland or Ostermark?
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>>94749144
it is basically the Prussia of the Empire, a militaristic outpost with the potential to dominate through military achievements but held back by being away from the cultural centre.
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Are there any online tools to help with managing a campaign map?
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>>94750742
No, Reikland is Prussia including black eagle heraldry, white uniforms, big army funds and Empire wide famous discipline.
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>>94749144
the sea is mostly cliffs so there arn't any good harbours like they are in Nordland
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>>94749989
>>94750060
>They have taken the bridge and the castle court yard.
>We have barred the gates, but cannot hold them for long.
>The ground shakes.
>Horns, horns in the night.
>We cannot get out.
>Creatures move in the dark.
>We cannot get out.
>They are cuming.
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>>94750850
anon you might want to look at Austria...
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>>94750945
Anon, Reikland is clearly Prussian inspired. It has the largest, best equipped, best drilled and disciplined army led by proffesional officers + speaking of which Reikland has military academy. Things which Austria was almost never known.
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>>94751000
>Reikland has military academy. Things which Austria was almost never known.
Uhm..
Altdorf is very much inspired by Vienna, while Nuln is inspired by Dresden.
The Reikland is actually mainly inspired by the Rhineland, but the mountainois areas are very much reminiscent of mountainous Austrian and Bavarian Danube regions.
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>>94751000
Retard. Altdorf is Vienna and Reikland is Austria. Cope.
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>>94751000
>>94750945
>>94750850
>>94750742

There is no clear correlation between Provinces and real life parts of the HRE as Bongs are bad at continental history, but the closest Prussian counterpart is Middenland. With it's militaristic culture and constantly challenging the Reikland for dominance in the Empire.
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>>94750850
Reikland is clearly Austria, stop doing drugs
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>>94750850
>black eagle heraldry, white uniforms
Black Eagle is universal in german states
>white uniforms
literally Austrias shtick for most of history, Prussia always had blue uniforms.
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>Tigermen of Khuresh Champion for a Beastmen army
Ye or Ne?
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>>94751409
There isn't enough lore on them to properly know what they are like, but the little we do know says they probs wouldn't get along with "western" beastmen (ie rape and pillage goatmen)
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>>94751409
Fuck off
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>>94751335
>Prussia always had blue uniforms
Not him but flat out incorrect
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Speaking of the !German States, what, if anything is Warhammer Switzerland? There's obviously nothing squashed in between the Empire, Bretonnia and Tilea like there is with Germany, France and Italy, but is there a rough equivalent out there?
>disproportionately rich and powerful
>isolated
>autistically Germanic
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>>94751526
the humans that live in the Vaults maybe but outside of isolation and their rough geographic location there really isn't anything Swiss about them
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>>94751526
>disproportionately rich and powerful
>isolated
>autistically Germanic
Dwarfs.
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>>94751534
>the Vaults
They are canonically kilted highlanders. 6th or 7th edition rulebook, ba ground section.
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>>94751480
Yeah they briefly went into black for a period of time, but not white.
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What would pirates during renaissance times look like (clothing wise) vs during the golden age of piracy? Trying to figure out how Sartosan pirates ought to realistically look
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>>94750742
>>94750850
>>94751000
>>94751274
You're all wrong, Ostland is Prussia (black and white colours, coastal province, semi-slavic borderland, next to Sweden/Nordland, bad agriculture).
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>>94751580
Yeah OK, my bad I should've guessed. In my defence Dwarfs have a much better sense of humor than the average Swiss. Had to talk to a guy in Zurich this morning as part of an on-going covenant monitoring on his company's credit facility, after it was all said and done I said
>well Mr. Anon, I'm very happy with everything I saw today.
>thank you for your time and I wish 2025 is wonderful to you and your company.
And this Swiss DOG just looked at me like he had never heard something like that his entire life and just went
>Yes.
>Good.
AND WALKED AWAY
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>>94751409
sure why not
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>>94751526
There are german, italian and french swiss, so probably the Border Princes to a degree.
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>>94751821
Aren't BP basically Balkan shitholes?
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>>94751843
Thats fair, they are sorta.
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>>94751654
pirates were usually dressed very similar to anyone else of their day and age.
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>>94751654
Sartosan pirate look like golden age of piracy pirates anon, historicity is only faction-wide in warhammer not world wide, hence why you have renaissance Empire alongside medieval Bretonnia. Sartosans are based on golden age pirates, that is the whole point of them being the pirate faction that is based on that period of pop history.
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>>94751526
the Moot
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>>94751723
dude, Reikland/Sigmarite vs Middenland/Ulrican rivalry is clearly based on real life Austria/Catholic vs Prussia/Protestant
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Are there any good rules for running siege battles, or battle with a bridge or river ?
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>>94751946
>clearly
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>>94751960
Warhammer seige books?
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>>94751960
6th edition has siege rules towards the end of the book.
I wonder why people keep asking about siege rules every thread.
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>>94749144
>>international border with Kislev for trade
International border with kislev for constant war more like.
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>>94749044
>Chaos gods don't correspond to human emotions
Correct, they correspond to "emotions", not just human.
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>>94751960
Theres blood in the badlands for siege rules. Rivers also have rules, so im not sure what that second part of the question is.

Just have a map with a big river in the middle, maybe make it impassable at parts, and then have a big bridge across it.
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>>94751960
The 6th edition core rules book has siege rules and you can find that in the OP
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>>94749040
sigvald likes only himself
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>>94751960
rules? yes
good rules? no
They're inherently narrative scenarios and the rules should be tailored specifically to the armies and narrative in question, otherwise they're extremely unbalanced or worse, extremely boring
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>>94752428
>>94752428
>>94752428
New Thread
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>>94746135
>inhuman beings would need their own reasons to rape
Like being derived from a being who exists as the sum-total of all pleasurable emotion, who embodies the personal pursuit of gratification to any extreme imaginable and several more besides? Like that maybe?

You don't get to segregate off This or That kind of pleasure-seeking or indulgence and say they're fine but the rest that you're uncomfortable with don't count. Khorne does not care from whence the blood flows, only that it flows. Nurgle is the patron of all Life, including the kinds that only flourish by sickening and consuming other kinds. Tzeentch is the embodiment of change and scheming, to the point that he can seek self-defeating outcomes with mutually incompatible methods. And Slaanesh is all about the rush, all about going as big as you can as often as you can and then trying to go even bigger next time, all about transgression and excess in all things. Rape elicits ecstatic pleasure and feelings of power and potency in its perpetrators, and vast depths of horror in its victims. The more grotesque and transgressive the rape, the more Slaanesh feeds.

That's the whole *point* of Chaos, the whole reason it's such a horrifying foe - it doesn't matter if you kill in a noble cause or for sinister aims, you feed Khorne; whether you righteously scheme to overthrow a corrupt ruler or engage in sinister plots for your own elevation, Tzeentch profits; whether you try to save lives or spend them to spread disease, Nurgle chortles with appreciation; whether you make passionate, all-consuming consentual love to a partner, or cannibal-rape an orphanage, Slaanesh gets its jollies. Chaos is the good and the bad and everything in between, and the idea Slaaneshi worshippers are somehow *less* likely to be rapey than other brands is...just literally retarded.
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>>94744425
Why not have snotlings in ramshackle wooden mechs? Like pump wagons but with legs.



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