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You *do* honour the Dragon, right?What's your favourite Draconis 'Mech?
>>94794195Which one carries an ac/10?
HONOR THE DRAGON!!
https://youtu.be/kmJce02JHWM?si=EYEyo9W8POK--CB5
How do (you) play with custom mechs anon? Do you have particular force org rules for them, do you rely on maintaining the spirit of the mech, or what?
>>94794210Wolf trap does. >>94794195Lancelot, if that counts as a Drac mech. Otherwise, the humble Dragon.
>>94794242That's a fancy LB 10-X AC, not an honest AC/10.
>>94794251Best I can do is a hunchback
>>94794195I honor the servants of the Dragon by granting them glorious deaths on the field of battle in service of their Lord. The Naginata and Hatamoto-Chi are both tight. I really can't decide between the to. Honestly I love a lot of Drac mechs, which is why I always take contracts where I'm fighting the Dragon so I can steal their shit.
>>94793894>>94793954>>94794100>2 to 1 odds>330 tons vs 180 tons>LosingMost powerful Taurian Concordat fan.>>94794281Hunchback-4H then.
>>94794262There is still a difference between the two. Backing off from the crest of a hill is hard to do in 10 seconds if you also count driving up, taking aim and shooting in the same timeframe. A mech on the other hand can crouch and stand faster, so they require a smaller amount of time partially exposed in order to fire.A turreted vehicle being hull down in a depression is still technically 100% vulnerable to destruction by being hit in the turret, as long as the shooter hits. A mech that only uses its arm to fire out of cover doesn't expose something critical, unless its got MG ammo in it or something.
>>94794302Those pirates came to fuck
>>94794359Being hull-down allows tanks to redirect all (in this case, probably ~50-60%) their armor to the turret though. You don't need to back down after each shot, you let them shoot you in the turret.
>>94794195Panther, it is a light mech, but a very solid trooper.
How do you deal with something like the Gargoyle J? An assault mech jumping 7 hexes just feels impossible to overcome.
>>94794197>The Banshee, which I planned to have as a big scary punching bag, has proven to be quite adept at punching down and it's only going to get worse in a turn or two when it's literally punching downThe thing about the Banshee is its failings in armament are when compared to its peers in the assault weight class. Against a primarily light/medium force it is absolutely a threat, being a bully is something the Banshee excels at.
>>94794302Could be worse. Could have been a Conopian fan
No Open, no Trial of Bloodright, no Grand Melee, and no BTCC at Adepticon this year. I'm disappointed.
>>94794374That got tried in real life and it quickly lead to the discovery that you can't ensure you'll be hull down all the time. Also, it's better to cancel the height the turret adds for even further hull down, at which point you've built a Stug
>>94794387I put together the force before my player decided which of the lances he was bringing, I assumed he was bringing some heavier mechs. He could have brought a full company.
>>94794374The problem here is armor doesn't work the same. Actually in the real world this doesn't matter either, because if the opponent has a main gun and ammo big enough to kill another modern tank (virtually all of them do) then its almost a guaranteed one-shot anywhere. ERA blocks can help but if they work then the protection will be gone for that spot; even if it blunts a penetrator dart the impact will still damage the other blocks nearby. In any case since many BT vees do not concentrate armor in their turret many of them would have to be redesigned.
>>94794426What tank shell can penetrate the frontal turret of an M1A2 or Leopard 2A6 from 1.5km?
>>94794435An AC10 round from battletech. If you want to talk real mechs, take it to /k/
>>94794426Abrams can't reliably penetrate each other through the turret. There's plenty of stories of them bouncing off each other during accidental friendly fire. Now, from the side, I think every modern tank instagibs any other modern tank. Vehicle design in this game is done by people who have clearly never looked at a tank that exists in real life, so it's not surprising that they'd take minor redesigns.
>>94794447The post >>94794426 Asserted that >Actually in the real world this doesn't matter either, because if the opponent has a main gun and ammo big enough to kill another modern tank (virtually all of them do) then its almost a guaranteed one-shot anywhere.If virtually all of the tanks have a main gun and ammo capable of frontally penetrating a hull down M1A2 or Leopard 2A6 at combat distances, he should be able to name one.
>>94794468>>>/k/
>>94794472So baseless assertions should never be challenged? Is that what you're saying?
>>94794472t. probably thinks battletech is a game where you take 1 of each weight class in a lance and anything else is powergaming/griefing
>>94794480They should be challenged in places where it's right to discuss them. This isn't the board for real world military vehicles and weapons. Post battletech or go somewhere else.
what's the most fun color scheme to paint
>>94794489>Only *I* get to make off topic posts, if you try and challenge me talking out of my ass, you're off topic.
>>94794409>Also, it's better to cancel the height the turret adds for even further hull down, at which point you've built a StugAnon, the main point of going hull down is to minimize your target profile. The lower your gun sits the less depression it has and the more you actually have to expose yourself.
>>94794499I've never found painting "fun". It's calming, sometimes interesting, and when its complete it's satisfying.
>>94794400Best I can do is Grinder and Solaris
>>94794514Meanwhile a lot of the BT tanks have goofy ass turrets.
>>94794499The answer is always your-dudes.If you don't have a particular company or force you want to paint, just browse some camospecs or patterns to see what you think might look cool. I recommend picking something that's not too high resolution unless you want to do extensive stencil/freehand work. Quadrants, checkers, camo and stripes all can be really cool, especially if you mix them.For something more basic, you can just break up the color-scheme with simple "rules" like "The right arm and the head are painted white" or "The lance leader has a yellow stripe on his right side." Those can add visual interest and a kind of psuedo-military realism without being too complicated.
>>94794530It's not just the tanks>we uuuh need a scorpion tail and turret that isn't big enough to hold the artillery piece
>>94794534>>94794499Speaking of paint. I've been trying to think of something to spice up my dudes and help me differentiate between mechs where I have multiples. I was thinking of adding a colored stripe on the chest and trying to practice my freehand, but I can't decide what colors to use. My dudes base color is Green. Red and Purple both have connotations I don't love. Anyone have suggestions for what colors I could try?
>>94794560Gold or silver.
Theoretically, can IS factions make/upgrade to C variants by shoving salvaged Clantech wargears in their own battlemechs like players do in Vidya? Or a mech upgraded like that count as C variant?
>>94794590Yes they can. Many in-universe customs exist, and most of them don't get record sheets, but something like replacing an IS AC10 with a clan Ultra AC10 with some extra ammo is entirely doable.
>>94794560>help me differentiate betweenI tried variations on secondary color patterns, but in the end I think base numbering is just flat out more immediately useful because it's quicker and easier to perceive for both players. Pic related is what I'm doing going forward.
>>94794590Until someone makes an official hard theory on how fusion reactors work and how much power they can output per rating, then yes it should always be possible. Clan ERMLs are equivalent to IS LLs, does that prevent an IS mech from having its IS MLs replaced with CERMLs because of the sheer difference in power draw? There is nothing that states that a 250 rated IS-made engine produces any less power than a 250 rated Clan engine.
>>94794539I just assume the vehicle being talked about never actually looks like what the art depicts.
>>94794615I like these.
>>94794615I do also wanna add some extra color so it isn't just all Green. I like Green, I achieved what I was going for, but the longer I play with them the more it seems kinda boring compared to some of my buddies paint schemes and I'd like to challenge myself.
>>94794581Those would pop nicely, but I'd like to avoid metallics. Maybe I could do grey and yellow.
>>94794195You dare question my honor?GLORY TO THE DRAGON!
>>94794648Even doing that still leaves you with stuff like vehicles that should never be anywhere near a front line having 20 extra tons of irrelevant combat equipment on them.
>>94794691I blame that on rampant military-industrial complex spending for 800 years.
>>94794688One of the call to arms highlander varients has a melee weapon. It is a Katana not a claymore
>>94794699House Marik's true role in the FWL: auditing weapons manufacturers.
>>94794241My group uses the "one unicorn" guideline, where everyone is allowed one wacky/ultra rare, super custom 'mech. More "standard" customization, i.e. minor weapon swaps and the like, are something you should clarify to your buddies imo, but aren't a serious balance concern. Though I also think Battletech should be played more as a narrative/historical game anyway.
>>94794720Connor MacLeod variant
>>94794673Red or yellow accents would add visual appeal to green.
>>94794788I completely forgot about highlander good point
>>94794750I agree about the narrative element. It's easy to do 4 on 4 or 5 on 8 over and over, but there should be some more thought put into why each mech is there.
What's the point of oneshot missiles?
>>94794844To shoot a missile once
>>94794400>No Open, no Trial of Bloodright, no Grand Melee, and no BTCC at Adepticon this yearWe're getting absolutely destroyed on table space concerns. Not enough tables available to be rented in order to run the minis events the CDT *needs* to run, let alone everything we *want* to. GenCon is looking just about as bad; even though the absolute number of tables is larger, there's more variety of events that we're mandated to run, and lots of them are high-capacity events. Last year's Master & Minions essentially ate over half of the entire CGL minis tables for 8 solid hours on Saturday.And it'll get worse once Leviathans has its full retail release this year. That's a whole extra game line that will expect significant support and table space, including tournament table space (which usually starts at ~10 tables, out of the ~40 maximum we're ever allowed to rent).
>>94794875So it was a matter of not getting enough space even though Adepticon moved to a bigger venue?
>>94794875>it'll get worse once Leviathans has its full retail releaseIt'll get better again after Leviathans retail sales faceplant and CGL abandons support for it.
>>94794451>There's plenty of stories of them bouncing off each other during accidental friendly fire.Why are you making shit up?
>>94794560Take a hot glue gun and just lay some ropes of glue over the mechs.>red and purple have connotationsNo they don't.
>>94794875Suffering from success I take it?
>>94794560>Red and Purple both have connotations I don't love
>>94794195Grand dragon. Hail kurita, may they keep the draconis combine speaking allah’s language, Japanese.
>>94794922https://gulflink.health.mil/du_ii/du_ii_tabh.htmB Company, 3-66 armor.I read somewhere else that other people reported taking fire from (longer than the DU would be effective vs an abrams, but reasonable for a T-55 or 72 to be penned at) long ranges that simply plinked off. This kind of thing isn't as likely to be reported after, since no one died.
>>94794688Looks like it's about to do the impossible and beat the unbeatable.
>>94794957>Green and redChristmas>Green and purplepicrel
>>94794560>Red and Purple both have connotations I don't loveFisting and piercing?
>>94794688Tangent, but the PPC-X could be an interesting weapon. Think it is really the only weapon that did not have an equivalent in the tabletop already
>>94795000Sounds like a "you" problem if that's the first thing you think of when combining those colors
When did /btg/ switch from purple birb to dracs?
>>94794615Just add hazard stripes
>>94795089No.
>>94794904A single company can only rent a maximum number of tables. That's true at basically every con, to keep some companies (read: GW) from buying *ALL* the tables. I'm fairly certain CGL is at the cap for every major convention this year.Where they plan to put Voltron stuff next year, I have no idea.
Damn I begin to develop certain disdain for these tie-in novels. We need to return to some adventures and intrigue of the outter space
>>94795151>(read: GW)Those fuckers ruin everyone's good time. They ought to be playing on the floor.
>>94794978>believing yank propaganda
>>94794978"Bouncing off each other" is not exactly represented in these incidents. Plenty of people getting hurt or killed and crews abandoning tanks, but nothing to suggest that Abrams friendly fire was inconsequentual.
>>94795188These are mostly not turret hits. There's at least one in there where it says it took 3 hits, one of which hit the turret ring and killed the gunner, but nothing of the other two. In a peer conflict, properly armored (read: not monkey-model no DU-plating export variants) Abrams don't pen each other through the turrets.
>>94795171Yeah, we need more RPG material.
>>94795175and getting assraped by horses. in all seriousness, FUCK GW. they SUCK.
>>94794400>moved to MilwaukeeMan, fuck that. That's like a whole extra hour away.
>>94795054It never did. /btg/ was, is, and will be a Davionman board.
>>94794875What if CGL just brings physically bigger tables?
>>94795151>Where they plan to put Voltron stuff next year, I have no idea.The KS numbers don't look exciting, and seperating the launch into 80s Voltron and LGTBQ Voltron seems counterproductive.
>>94795200BT is in need of another Unbound
>>94794400The East Coast Tourney Scene is looking good this year at least. The South Carolina and DC/Baltimore area groups are both building steam, with Southern Assault and Northern Assault both sold out last year and smaller 30-50 player tournaments like Battle for the Bay starting to crop up. Honestly Southern Assault by itself kicks the crap out of anything CGL runs anyway. Fortress minis knows how to have a good time.
>>94795185>yank propagandaIt's a list of all the times US vehicles accidentally shot at each other in the 91 gulf war. It's hardly propaganda to provide a narrative about killing your own people.
>>94794514the problem of low gun depression on hull guns was solved on the S-tanksyou can also use a mechanism where the gun breech can depress outside of the fighting compartment
>>94795263Yeah which we can see by the reception of ilClan era so far
>>94795464>reception of ilClan era so farI could not be bothered to give a fuck about the ilClan era when they were just releasing the historical books, but ever since Hinterlands came out and I started playing the contracts I've become interested. I'm actually looking forward to the next Hotspots books. CGL sucks ass at writing the big picture stuff but the scenario oriented stuff is fun.
>>94795559And this is why /btg/ is Dragon/purple bird/goons/etc board.Fuck Davion!
>>94794875That's carmis retribution for restoring Star League
>>94795559My group is starting a full on Hinterlands campaign in a week. Should be fun.Not going to see use in my campaign, but here's some ideas I just typed up for support vehicle bonuses you could get in a Mercs campaign>MASH: If your force has a MASH, immediately after completing a track, choose one pilot. That pilot heals one injury. If the pilot has taken 6 injuries and the cockpit section on the mech was not completely destroyed, the chance to rush them into emergency surgery might save them. Roll 1D6, and on a 3+, the pilot immediately heals one injury. In either case, you must still pay the 30 SP to heal the pilot.Cost: 100 SP>Ordinance Truck: If your force has an ordinance truck, you may replace ammo at half cost, and may replace ammo between tracks even if they take place in the same month.Cost: 50 SP>Mobile Field Base / Savior Repair Vehicle: If your force has a Mobile Field Base or Savior Repair Vehicle, you may repair Armor and Critical damage between tracks even if they take place in the same month.Cost: 200 SP.>Mobile HQ: If your force has a Mobile HQ, once per contract, you may choose to re-roll a result on the Command Complications Table. You must keep the second result. Cost: 150 SP>Tonbo: Only available after 3080. If your force has a Tonbo, as long as your opponent does not hold the field after a given track, you may collect one unit as salvage. This can be used even if a track normally forbids collecting salvage or if neither player holds the field.
>>94795627Forgot the cost for the Tonbo: Should be 500 SP
>>94795627Would you need to field these in a mission to get the bonus afterward? Because if you aren't required to put them on the board and risk them it's just buying a service/bonus.
>>94795627Can you make one up for the Coolant Truck as well?
>>94795639I was basically picturing it as buying a themed service/bonus, yeah. So no, no need for them to show up on the board.I did forget to say, they'd be mutually exclusive - each force can only have a single support vehicle in tow, so that you have to choose that.>>94795647That's an idea, but what effect can you see it having between battles? Heat doesn't persist, and it's not like we pay for coolant.
>>94795633How many SP for a Tonbo that can kidnap an active enemy unit and its pilot from the battlefield?
>>94795666Since this isn't ArcadeTech, infinite. Only shut down units can be carried by a Tonbo. I know, it makes me sad too.Now with the proper application of a TSEMP...
>>94795655>o need for them to show up on the board.Much less interesting. It should be a gamble to deploy them, making players weigh the risks and rewards.
>>94795674That doesn't really make sense for a lot of these. Why would I not hold my MFB out of the combat zone until the fighting is over? Plus, these already have rules for when they're on the board.
>>94795688The campaigns are already fairly forgiving. Letting you buy perks to make it even more forgiving seems pointless.
>>94795175NEAs referencing a real event. Adepticon started as a GW convention, but not run by GW. I think it was 2005 when they opened the con up to other companies, and so GW bought all the tables and booth space so no one else could come. It wasn't 07, because that's the first one I went to, and it happened a few years before I started attending. The rules about buying space got changed, obviously.
>>94795699This. The only proper campaign is a full account tech campaign with all the era and quality modifiers in place, rolling for part degeneration each maintenance cycle. The fewer working parts you have on a Mech, the better the game. You have to rely on infantry and tanks to get the job done.
>>94795007>>94795000>>94794957>>94794932I just assumed he didn't like dracs or free worlders.
>>94795712Not what I was suggesting at all.
>>94795727Any sort of coddling makes a campaign system shit. Either play on max difficulty or don't play. It's war. It's not supposed to be easy.>>94795701Honestly pretty based on GWs part. I know if I could lock my competition out of the market I'd do it in a heartbeat. It's competition. It's not supposed to be fair or nice. The only reason I haven't burned down an enemy HQ and have Brisbane all to myself is the worry about it being illegal. Anything you can do within the law to beat a competitor is always justified.
>>94795655If it really has to be between battles and not in them, then I would make it so once per battle you can dump X extra heat during the heat step. Maybe 5, maybe 2d6.If it's in battle, that's easy, choose a mech within three hexes, dump an extra 1d6 heat from that mech. It's not as good as the full rules, but the full rules include not shooting for a turn and becoming an immobile target, so take what you can get.
>>94795688Man I'm torn between that Hex Bay and the Mech Repair Bay
A mech that has less than the normal amount of equipment should be able to haul off a vehicle (wreck) of the same free weight, perhaps more since they can already pick up stuff like trees when fully loaded.A Banshee with its weapons and heat sinks removed should be able to pick up a 20 ton bug and run off with it as immediate salvage. If it has no arms it doesn't even get a chance to struggle.
>>94795627I slobber in anticipation of this
>>94795789equipment not properly secured to the mech cannot be safely carried at speed
>>94795815That isn't what Tacops says.
>>94795802Anticipation of the campaign we'll be playing, or those bonus rules? There's no anticipating, that's them.
What tank is this /btg/Name is listed as Mamontenok. But it's not a mamono
>>94795857The campaign. I have to live vicariously through it.
>>94795627Was the Tonbo completely new concept? Or was there similar transport/cargo VTOL but smaller or something before
>>94795897There are a lot of cargo VTOLs, but I don't think there was anything capable of carrying a mech around before the Tonbo and there hasn't been anything else since.>>94795872I'll be posting.
>attle ROMs recovered from a Third Raven Auxiliary Star operating three jumps from Valasha raised more questions than they answered about the loss of that Star, composed of three Summoners and two Vipers. First came sensor interference consistent with hostile ECM, then two Summoners were brought down by simultaneous PPC blasts to their cockpits. The Snow Raven Star Commander, whose name remains classified, attempted to regroup with his Vipers, only to see the lighter ’Mechs picked off. The remaining battleROM is a jumble of gunfire and shouting over the roar of jump jets. The Star Commander’s Summoner was found upright, armless, and empty, yet sealed from the inside. Of the enemy, nothing is known, except for a single frame showing what may be the arm of a Marauder, jet black behind smoke and the flash of lasers.Omnipod sisters.... our response?
>>94795897The Sarna entry suggests it was a novel idea based on the secrecy of its early operations. I find the idea of Drac VTOLs with arms nabbing disabled Clanners and flying them to a huge zeppelin to be hilarious.
>>94795915>there hasn't been anything else sinceThe Garrot from TRO 3145 Mercs should be able to but lacks the same capacity, as a conventional sized 30 ton VTOL its max load in the hoists is 60 tons.
>>94794192Sauce on the OP image?
>>94795014Well there's the Snub Nose PPC, it's kinda close to that.
Among the plastic vehicles that came out with the Mercs KS, which ones would the pirates most likely to use?
>>94795998Bulldog tanks. They're everywhere.
>>94795965It can still lift a lot of mechs and vehicles anyway.
You can fit two lift hoists on a Venom and still have a couple tons left over for, I dunno, small pulse lasers or flamers or whatever. Doesn't really matter when you could be stealing up to 35 tons of stuff at 8/12/8. 7/11/8 on the way out.
A bishop can carry most protos, and some ultralights.
2 Von Luckners or 2 Manticores for the core of a battleline?
>>94796023It makes more sense to have a cargo oriented vee escorted by battlemechs than to make a battlemech that is terrible at battle and inefficient at cargo carrying.
>>94796068At that speed, it's very efficient at snapping up all kinds of side torsos and arms, from right under the enemies nose.
>>94796066I'd rather have the Manticores.
>>94796076That's what I was thinking.
>>94796023A Tonbo costs 1.3 million C-Bills to the Spider 5V's 2.9. You can get two Tonbos for the price of a single Spider.
>>94796124Yeah, but Tonbos are a lot easier to shoot down.
>>94795954Pray to the Great Father, but know that you will find no salvation
Land Air Tonbo... transforms into plane mode to pull its cargo away at aerospace speeds...
>>94795897A big fuckin helicopter with arms to just grab a whole assault mech off the ground by itself was pretty novel.
>>94795263>filenameI was not lied to.
>>94795041>>94795000I mean I was just thinking of the Hulk, or Beast Boy. Green and Purple was really common in comics. Nothing sexual about it in my mind, it just makes me think of goofy comic book characters is all.
>>94796202Imagine the rigging mishaps...
>>94794922said the turret you stupid dum dum, lurn two reef
>>94794539>turret not big enough.HO BOY, no one tell him about one of the abrams prototypes or the stryker TD!
Well I officially have my forces for my groups alpha strike campaign planned out. This is gonna be a fucking shitshow, but hopefully it goes better than the last one.
>>94795323You're never getting it because people love eating garbage by buying whatever CGL shits out. Why make proper supplementary material when you can get nobodies to write Sharpnel stories for no effort?
>>94796260Ghosts of Obeedah was neat
>>94796236What are you bringing?
>>94796285Unit Name Skill BVPursuit LanceFireball ALM-8D 6 16Fireball ALM-8D 6 16Scarabus SCB-9A 4 27Scarabus SCB-9A 4 27Artillery LanceHollander III BZK-D1 5 20Hollander III BZK-D1 5 20UrbanMech UM-AIV 4 22UrbanMech UM-AIV 4 22Battle LanceGallowglas GAL-1GLS 3 43Axman AXM-5N 4 39Victor VTR-9K 3 48Grasshopper GHR-8K 3 47Cavalry LanceRakshasa MDG-1Ar 3 50Hatchetman HCT-7D 3 41Phoenix Hawk PXH-3PL 3 41Wolverine WVR-10D 3 44Cavalry LanceRakshasa MDG-1Ar 3 50Hatchetman HCT-7D 3 41Enforcer III ENF-6R 3 41Centurion CN11-OA 3 42Command LanceBlack Knight BL-12-KNT 3 48BattleMaster BLR-10S 3 60Inferno INF-NOR 2 63Flashman FLS-10E 2 69Spares Wolfhound WLF-2 3 34Shadow Hawk SHD-6D 3 43This. I'm bringing this.
>>94796131>The entire mountainside slid down into the gap. MechWarriors responded instantly, racing away from the landslide, down the road from whence they had come. All made it, except for Murder Two. Her Stormcrow vanished into the dust and debris, crushed under a megaton of rock. The enemy drew first blood without ever being seen.>Even with his expanded perspectives, there was one place Taran could not see, a darkness so complete it defied the very concept of vision. Light seemed to fall into it, the way it might spin into a stellar singularity and be lost forever. It was the void into which humankind shouted, and it would answer back.>Vik’s War Crow struggled to rise, its left leg severed below the knee. The enemy had felled their strongest first. The Dark Crow and surviving Stormcrow spread to its sides, attempting to force this blackness to show one of them its back. It attacked both. The Dark Crow spun and staggered while the Stormcrow plowed into the earth, its cockpit vaporized.>A mix of emotions overcame Taran, anger chief among them. “You have deceived me, Lydia Spaatz. You have brought me here to face a bane beyond the skill of your warriors. You need a Wolf to make the kill so you can feed on it, like the carrion eaters you are.” He turned away from the battle. “Fight your own wars.">“You cannot see as I see!” Taran felt his lips curl into a snarl. “I do not know what evil you have summoned here, but it is not my mission to cleanse it.”
>>94796290Huh, that looked better formatted before I posted it.
>>94796300>>94796290Here this should be easier to parse
>Fire Moth D costs only slightly less BV than a Dire Wolfummmm...what?
>>94796407The Dire Wolf, while it has lots of armor, is slow enough it has a hard time generating TMM. The Fire Moth can consistently have a +4, making it much harder to kill than you'd expect, and its speed also makes it useful for objectives.
>>94796218Rigger please.
>>94796425Speed isn't a valid defense when clan LPLs and Targeting Computers exist. There shouldn't be any BV component for a defense that's useless. The Dasher should be 1000 BV at most given it's armor load. CGL being incompetent again.
Is the gauss rifle the only IS weapon that is on par with the Clan version, damage and range-wise?
>>94796632IS SRMs match Clan SRMs for damage and range, but mass twice as much because clan space magic
>>94796632Also LRMs, SRMs, flamers, and machineguns. Clan LRMs don't have a min range but the brackets are the same.
>>94796202Honestly thats a decently smart idea, the ability to "grab" a wide variety of chassis shapes and other oddly configured debris
>>94796407The dire wolf is just insanely cheap due to BV2.0 giving huge discounts to things the direwolf does, like carrying a million weapons but not enough heatsinks to fire all of them. Like compare the direwolf to the stone rhino. It's 300 bv less but has almost double the firepower, simply because it's laser spam instead of gauss rifles, which are heavily penalized twice, once in the weapon cost and again for being heat-efficient.
>>94796581Pulse lasers were a mistake, change my mind
>>94796689They should've just been cluster weapons.Small Pulse Laser: Range 1/3/5, 2 damage, cluster 3, Anti-InfantryMedium Pulse Laser: Range 3/5/8, 4 damage, Cluster 3Large Pulse Laser: Range 4/8/12, 7 damage, Cluster 3
>>94796689>change my mindWhy? You're right. Tech should never have progressed beyond 3025.
Can someone who has the BMM tell me what the quirks are for an Archer? Sarna and the BMM open beta disagree.
>>94796202Damn that Dire Wolf looks comfy.
>>94796831>not having a Mad Cat in a "kitten carried by the scruff of its neck" pose
>>94796829
>>94796829sarna is kill. sarna is now fucking useless, since its run by demented CGL shill's and cockgarglers worshipping CGl's taint and balls.anything actually useful is now verboten, being replaced with 'fuck off and buy X rule book to find the information you are looking for there'
>>94796943The rules references were never useful in the first place because they were always wrong.
>>94796949>>94796943This. Sarna should be shut down, and we should be the ones to DDOS it to death.
>>94796957Do you genuinely think we're organized enough to pull that off?
Considering how mech vs mech are common why none bothered to create harpoon weapon or grenade launcher for mechs?
>>94797111what advantage would a grenade launcher have over an autocannon
>>94797117EMP grenades?
>>94797130A grenade launcher is just an autocannon that launches smaller, slower shells. If you can make EMP grenades, you can make EMP autocannon shells.You can't do either, though so look into a TSEMP
>>94797111Missiles have all the specialty ammo types you could ask for.
>>94796943why is this the case? why does sarna have straight-up innacuracies? (I am a newer player)
>>94797198Because it's a fan made wiki and anyone can edit it.
>>94797205I guess what I more specifically meant by "why is this the case" is what is the correlation between 'CGL dicksucking' and these innacurate entries
Should they add an alien race to battletech? >inb4 the clansThere is already some weird shit going on in the universe. Stuff like the black Marauder. An alien race showing up wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
>>94797255no
>>94796290kinda weird a command lance doesn't have something stereotypical like an atlas, awesome, zeus, or fafnir.shit even an akuma
>>94796943this is why you find a pirate site, got all the PDFs i need for free
>>94797238So, a few years back, and we're talking like 7-10 years ago, Sarna had random rule entries scattered in the pages. So you could go to, say, the page on Infantry, and see the damage table for anti-infantry weapons and their bonus damage vs infantry. At some point, Sarna's owner changed the policy so that they wouldn't have rules stuff directly on the wiki. >>94796943 is a schizo who's too stupid to download the rulebooks from the trove, so he's still upset about this nearly a decade later.Funnily enough there are still a few scattered around. The Plasma Rifle page still has its bonus heat/damage table. You can't trust it though, since some fan typed it in and it's probably wrong.
>>94797267Well, where can the story even go from here? Clan Wolf already took Terra and no one really gives a shit. A major goal was achieved and it amounts to a shrug in universe.
>>94797255>Stuff like the black Marauder. An alien race showing up wouldn't be that much of a stretch.Nope.The beauty of Black Marauder is that's a mystery. Just add some followers or cultists from lore and it will be perfect
>>94797298>Well, where can the story even go from here?To masturbate new Star League
>Unfortunately, Cornet Rogan proved to be quite rash when unsupervised, alerting the pirates to the approach of the scouts by triggering his jumpjets, and then leaping to the top of a 7 level high communications tower in order to gain a commanding vantage point. Unfortunately for Cornet Rogan, the flimsy communications tower was unable to bear the weight of his 30 ton mech, and he suffered a considerable fall, the resulting impact with the ground completely destroying the Gyro and completely spoiling the element of surprise.So wait, you let your player do this instead of telling him that "this is what will happen, rules-wise, if you do so?"If you didn't, fuck off, learn to be a better gamemaster.If you did, your player is a retard.
>>94797434 was meant for >>94793894>>94794419AND YOU DIDN'T ALTER YOUR LIST?
>>94797298I hope the story goes nowhere and it finally fucking dies because this plot is dreadful.It goes from being a steady decline when the clan invasion starts to being in constant free fall at the end of jihad for 25 years.
>>94797610>I hope the story goes nowhereWell more or less so. We know that eventually ilClan reigns supreme over Inner Sphere with all great houses reduced to even less power than they had durring original Star League
>>94797298The story of BT us how mankind can never really get along, introducing an outside threat goes against that.
>>94797111we already have mech tasers and SRM harpoon missiles (that don't work on mechs or any equipment that's bar 5 or higher) Grenade Launchers already exist in Vehicle grenade launchers, no to hit roles but they fire an AOE in a 3 hex arc. I could see them getting a proper mech counterpart, though aside from using standard ammo instead of being one shot weapons I can't think of much it could do without being srm's but worse.
>>94797434He asked if his spider could jump on to the 1 hex 7 lev tall comms tower for a better view into the mines. I told him that, physically yes the spider could, and that it would allow him to see into the sublevels behind the ridges, but that the light tower looked unstable and might not support the weight of his mech, describing how it swayed with a heavy gust of wind. He decided to risk it, not wanting to run his scouts into a potential ambush. I decided that the tower was CF25+2d6, and rolled a 3.>>94797450I was already on the road driving there when he decided on what he was bringing and I didn't bring any other record sheets appropriate to the era. In the future I'll have some on standby. I think he can handle a 5/4 Banshee, 5/6 Wasp, 4/5 Stinger, 4/4 Shadowhawk, and two regular foot rifle platoons with two lances of 3/4s and come out with some decent salvage, if the dice cooperate, but it's not the GM's job to give out handjobs under the table. He learned in a very memorable way, and that's not a bad thing.
>>94795770>>94795712I bet you're the same anon who hates the Mechs in Battletech.
>>94794560Do metallics, gold/silver/bronze/gunmetal trim would look good. Pic related. >>94794560>I'd like to avoid metallicsDo it anyway, it looks cool
>>94797902>Rolling for building CFRight. Tell the person the CF in advance. It's not like these are rules or anything.>Road drivingYou wouldn't have had to do that if you jusst, say, dropped the banshee out from that list.>He learned in a very memorable wayWell good if it stays that way, because this has all the makings of "and then he never touched campaign play again"
>>94795329>TournamentGay
>>94798425Tournaments are the only valid form of gaming. Competition is mandatory.
>>94797298>Well, where can the story even go from here?A good question. CGL really written themselves into a corner and the current situation doesn't looks like really salvageable, since they gave way too much of a plot armor and deus ex machinas to the clan yiff and it's inbred khan. And they keep giving since now he can shit an entire SLDF out of thin air with no problem whatsoever.The only way to resolve the situation is to give him big military defeat in order just to stall the current development of the plot. But it's not something what CGL writters will do after shilling him so much.
>>94798389NTA but "knowing" the CF of a building beyond light, medium, heavy, or superheavy is just metagaming in a narrative campaign.
>>94798449Why are you even here>>94798470Kinda sounded to me like "he didn't know how building rules worked and made the decision on incomplete information"
>>94798482Are Battletech moments a bad thing? If the building had held, the GM should have focus fired the tower until it dropped below 30 anyways.
>>94798190This scheme looks great anon, I was just thinking about doing /mydudes/ in it. I was gonna do dark green contrast over silver basecoat though. Maybe blue cockpits… but the orange does look good.
>>94798499If a player knows that the building can (and will) get shot from under him or won't support the weight of his 'mech, then it's fine if he still makes that stupid decision.If you're 'gotcha'ing new players, you're a dick.
>>94795263I spit on the Draconis Combine, and not just for Kentaures IVAfter all, if it weren't for Kurita, there'd have never been Succession WarsBut we all know Liao had it coming, so who cares if we started the 4th?And love me, love me, love meI'm a Davion
>>94798520>If you're 'gotcha'ing new players, you're a dick.Sounds like you're just weak.
>>94798602Bro you play a dead TT game from the 80s.You're socially weak already.
>>94798602Dezgra behavior
>>94783101My headcanon is that the Helm memory core let them resurrect purpose built platforms. Given the limited scale of Cappellan industry and the fact they were recovering from the 4th SW, and they probably didn't have the capacity to roll out a version previously and by the time they could, it was easier to just build a better thing than try and do a mass production conversion kit.
>>94798644>battletech is dead.then fuck off to 40k ya bootlicker
>>94798482because he's an elitist faggot who things spending money to tryhard in a table top against people and winning a plsstic reward is better than throwing crap on a table and having fun.
>>94798937>who things.
>>94798468The NAIS does a Manhattan Project and creates a hyperspace bomb that can blow up entire stars. Yes, we've had plenty of WMDs and entire planets being blown up, but on an interstellar scale this is still a huge undertaking, whereas a single warhead with that kind of power simply existing would massively change the status quo. Maybe they actually go through with it and nuke the solar system, since apart from ComStar (dead!) and the Clans' obsession with it (needs to be dead) it didn't really play much of a role in the setting that they players themselves interact with anyway. Meanwhile, the Mutually Assured Destruction situation created by the Nova Bomb's discovery would bring the setting back to the sort of Cold War-type status quo of the initial 3rd Succession War era most of the fanbase enjoys best, focusing on small mercenary forces carrying out deniable actions. And most of the furries are dead. I literally can't imagine a better possible outcome. Plus if Catalyst or whoever wants to do a reboot or just wrap everything up, all they have to do is have the MAD situation collapse and then the entire galaxy blows up, Ideon-style.
>>94799055>blow up an explosionNext you'll suggest the bad guys should threaten to flood an ocean world.
What's your favorite old-school BT art, mine is the Emperor because it looks like a cartoon strongman with a giant upper body and tiny little legs.
>>94799091In all fairness, I'd definitely take bad guys who flooded an ocean world to death very seriously. That's some pretty serious bragging rights right there.
is /btg/ a team aqua general now?
>>94799268I can't believe people thought that pose is cool 30~40 years ago
>>94799268> Dick guns
>>94799338I bought the TROs as a kid when they first came out. I really liked TRO 3025 and spent hours rereading it and enjoying the pictures. When TRO 2750 an TRO 3050 came out I remember thinking that there was a significant drop in design quality. The way the Clan omnimechs were first presented was especially bad.
>>94799423Helped that 3025 was half anime.
>>94799413>THAT’S RIGHT THIS IS WHAT YOU GET, MY SUPER LASER PISS
>>94799413>this was the most powerful weapon in the history of mankind
>>94799467The first time the Mackie smacked a tank out of the way with its dick cannons, they knew warfare had changed forever.
>>94797255Absolutely not but you could probably do something with the Genecaste + Homeworlds.>>94799268This infantry piece.
>>94799714What the FUCK is wrong with that Rifleman's torso?
>>94799727It suffers from a fatal case of being a Blackjack.
>>94799268This cute little Locust.
How much better would the Rifleman be if the Anti Air Targeting quirk also applied to jumping mechs?
>>94799736That's very obviously not a blackjack. The shoulders and arms are completely wrong, and Blackjacks don't have those trapezoids sticking up on the torso.>>94799727Artists can draw either Mechs, or people, not both. There's no such thing as an artist that can do both acceptably well. Since this artist did a good job on the person, by definition, the Mech has to look like shit.
>>94799714Also this one
>>94799457In that scene, who in battletech is robotnik, who is shadow, and who is robotnik's wife?
>>94799928Robotnik is obviously Amaris.
>>94799268Can't believe this hasn't been posted yet>>94799770Still not very good
>>94799770>>94800039A -2 to TMM in 3025 would be pretty huge, 5 or 8 damage is a genuine threat to a lot of jump 6+ mechs, it'd be an excellent flyswatter. Against most 5/8/5s it'd help but the chassis itself is still mediocre. It'd be like having even more situation precision ammo.
Is everyone in the Inner Sphere a manlet?
>>94800168Only Davion men and Cappies.
>>94800039That's Shadowrun art.
>>94800541That looks quite a lot like the FWL logo on his arm patch, complete with the "Marik" over the bird. Is there a shadowrun organization with a similar icon?
>>94800399Have you forgotten the towering 160cm TAVRIAN BVLL heightmogging all his peers?
>>94800634That was a case of american writers not knowing metric, it was changed in later releases.
>>94800677I just assumed it was a typo for 2.6m and the guy was elemental size.
>>94800634Love how my screenshot still gets passed around
>>94799928Shadow is Kerensky and the wife is Taborri.The real question regarding Sonic is if Omega would either be:A. Robot from SL era/ Automata from the WoBB. Some kind of Battle Armor/Protomech
>>94800634Literally not a canon source.
>>94799928Well considering it's the Mackie Robotnik is the Cameron behind it, can't remember if it was Joseph or Jacob, his wife was the public of the Hegemony who had turned on him and were out for his blood pre Mackie, and Shadow is clearly the military leader of the Fed Suns who fucked up his offensive bad enough to turn public opinion on him. Given the time period and area most likely General Rostov.
>>94795969DCMS officer in the Ryuken
>>94800634Which book is this?
>>94800954Its a woman. It can't be a DCMS officer.
>>94794875>that picWhy are Eridani Light Horse so aesthetic?
>>94800981>he doesn't know about the glorious reforms the benevolent Coordinators Takashi and Theodore gave to allow lesser "people" the chance to serve the Dragonbaka gaijin/10
>writers design the Draconis Combine to be the "big bad" of the 3025 era>make its military smaller than the FedSuns and the Lyrans>give it literally the worst mech selection of the Great Houses>somehow the Dracs have a history of beating their neighbors and consistently gaining ground before the 4th Succession WarWhy were the Dracs so successful for so long?
>>94800994They're just based like that.
I see that army painter has a bunch of tones and shades and washes, but I'm not quite sure how you're supposed to use them. Do you just pick the closest shade to what the base color is and slop it on?
Are they trying to get rid of the Taurian's? Seems like they have yoink majority of their territory and getting pressed on a lot of fronts
>>94801200>Are they trying to get rid of the Taurian's? One can only hope>captcha: SRM
>>94800039>>94800541>>94800601NTA but I thought the FWL hated cybernetics and such with a burning passion?
>>94801200No? They've reunited with the Calderons and still hold the Pleiades.
>>94801108They are 30s Japan through the eyes of the west. Overwhelming brutality in every aspect of their society gives them special powers, and the extended timelines of the wargame setting let the avoid the many, many downsides of those practices. You see something similar with the clans.As a side note, I don't think it's true that they have the 3rd largest military. They have fewer mech regiments than the Davions but more than the Lyrans until they lose a bunch of people doing dumb shit in and around the 4th war.
>>94801236The general public doesn't like them because they had an absolute loonie dictator who was augmented to the gills, but they're not illegal (federally anyway) and the spooks use them for all the same spook reasons any other spooks would.
>>94801108This breaks the knee
>>94801236The average Joe Schmoe Dispossessed hates cybernetic enhancements, not cybernetic replacements.
>>94801254Have they not lost most of their territory? And do we know if that merger even went through?>>94801229Sad if it happens, we will just have romans and degenerates left as major perph powers that are not clanners
>>94800981>Its a womanAre you absolutely sure about that? Asian women and Asian "men" basically look identical.
>>94801272Why would you say that? That's a knee mortar, right? Looks like he's using it right to me.
>>94801522>t. American intelligence officer
>>94801522People love to be smug and not explain things.
I tried giving these guys a wash, and they certainly look different, but I'm not sure if they look better.
>>94801200>Are they trying to get rid of the Taurian's?Writters currently a paving way for new Star League, so they wouldn't tolerate state which kicked out original Star League
They're going to reveal that the Wolverines have actually settled on the far side of Taurian space and the two nations have been silent allies this entire time. Now they're cut their way through the weakened Davions all the way to terra to depose of Alaric.
>>94801664As far as Redemption and Malice implies Wolverines are on the opposite site of the Periphery, so may be they've made deal with Canopus
>>94801599Brothers...?
>>94796231The m1128 at least has an external autoloader, right? This is clearly designed as like, a manned turret.
>>94801599You gotta do some cleanup after applying a wash or your mechs just end up looking dirty.
>>94801664The Word of Wolverine will be our doom
>>94801885>CleanupLike wicking it off the flat areas?
>>94801925You can do that while it's still wet, but you'll probably need to either repaint the flat areas or drybrush even after it dries or it'll still look dirty.
I wonder if the Nova Cats are going to pop back up in ilClan era or not. Since they allowed the SJ to come back. Though I somewhat wonder if the genetic legacies back in Clan space are still there.Or if these SJ are even as cruel as the old ones. Still somewhat believe the only reason SJ came back is because people bitched about killing the black people clan
>>94801959CGL will bring back every dead faction except Comstar/WoB just to spite me personally.
Running a grinder tonight, it's going well. Two regulars, two returning veterans, three newbies. FLGS owner handed out free salvage boxes.
>>94801959The nova cats live on in the spirit cats, who seem to have been absorbed into the ilclan after the writers got bored with the plotline where they were integrating with the FWL.I think bringing the Jags back is pure clan favoritism more than anything else. It's vitally important that VSD not have accomplished anything at all in his entire life.
>>94801999He had a kid with the one waifu he should have gone with the entire time. His sister. VSD though really got shafted so much it seems. Dunno why he thought Precenter Martial was more important than being First Prince
>>94802116Kat, stay in Alaric's head
>>94801631Would this not mean that Canopians would also be destroyed?
>>94802116It's not that being precentor martial was more important, it was showing that the civil war wasn't about claiming power or a throne, it really was about dethroning his sister. If he had claimed either throne, both realms would have had to deal with nationalistic rebellions for decades. Stepping back secured peace for his siblings to rule. Besides without Omi he was kinda done anyway. And then the star league dissolution happened later that year and shit everything up anyway.
>>94802231That guy is larping a bit but it is true that a bunch of Dark Age and Jihad decisions were obviously made because the writers were tired of the sleeping giant taurians stronk memes.The Canopians were protected by being Capellan pets for a long time, even if some of the modern stuff has them being more like the Capellan equivalent of Andurien or Skye.
>>94799268the classic
>>94800634I dont care all of you are manlets
>>94802116Groups of people reforming years after their conqueror's retirement (and death) is not devaluing the achievements of the latter.
>>94801999It really makes me wonder why leafties love the clans so much when they are basically everything they should hate. Is it cause sex positive?
>>94801599I think it looks good.
>>94802394Most people are assuming that the NuJags will be a lot like the invasion era jags for brand recognition reasons. It will be very silly if they keep the fidelis branding given that they have basically betrayed the republic at the first real opportunity to do so. If they are, it removes the unique thing about Bulldog/Serpent, which is semi-realistic permanent consequences to a nation being enormous shitheads and a blight on all of their neighbors for their entire existence.
>>94801925Nah, just go over the main part of each panel with the color underneath the wash. The wash itself will act as a new base coat and tint the new paint down a bit, and since you're just doing the main parts and not every nook and cranny, you'll also leave dark wash shadows in the recesses.
>>94802415>lefties love the clans I guess they're able to draw a distinction between "I think this is interesting fiction" and "I support this unironically in real life"Is that something you have difficulty with?
>>94802533that's something they're famously bad at doing
>>94799714I think that might be the back of a Jaeger?
>>94802533>"I think this is interesting fiction"Here is the thing. This statement is false ever since clan Woof wanking
>>94802541Given they don't unironically agree with the Clans, there are two options>leftists can distinguish stuff they're interested in from stuff they uniorinically support>leftists do not actually like the clans and you have been lied toMust be one of those two.
>>94802443>Most people are assuming that the NuJags will be a lot like the invasion era jags for brand recognition reasonsBut now with plot armor and SUPER DUPER COMPETENT leaders and officers
>>94802231Nope. Since Canopus was very submissive to the Star League, barely fought in reunification wars and never rebelled
Nice productive day today. Finished printing my latest oversized mech, the Avatar (picrel), with the design from Locust Labs. Ran a grinder at the FLGS, which went well, drew in some new people and I gave them some spare mechs I wasn't going to use.I also decided that my force pack for the upcoming Hinterlands merc campaign, which starts next week, is going to be the Clan Support Star. I need a Night Gyr for the Alyina Mercantile League force I'm building, so that'll be the mech I remove before starting. Gotta decide which of the four other mechs I'll make my first pick. I can choose any of the mechs and any variant of them, and if I want I can run the IS Battle Cobra instead of Clan.Slightly leaning towards taking the Linebacker because I've never used one before.
>>94802443Their behavior might be more like the Invasion Jags but they now lack the agency to commit to the same comical mismanagement issues. It should work out fine as them being attack dogs.
>>94802637That's less to do with Canopus and more to do with the FWL having the most competent Reunification front commander of the lot. They forced the SLDF to follow the Ares Convention despite it being repealed by the first lord, and that alone saved Canopus.
>>94794192Do you think it's finally the time to abandon the weeb theme of Kurita in 3145 era? I's not 1980s anymore, the salivation over Japanese houses with paper walls, kimonos, tea ceremonies and theatric Kurosava style samurais is more cringy than cool. I don't ask to abandon the Japanese identity btw. With ruthless Japanese corporate culture they could be a cyberpunk style interstellar semi-dystopian state. Eve-Online has entire major faction based around corporate culture, the Caldari.
>>94802675You're a bitch.
>>94802282Clearly they wanted to make the Canopians the best perph faction because it is one of the lead writers favorite faction. To do that, they needed the bull to suffer
>>94802659Yeah because suddenly whole Inner Sphere forogt how to fight off
>>94802674That is one thing that makes sense and sucks about the Reunification wars. None of the slaughter and war crimes ever get punished.
>>94795869Mammoth tank from C&C.
>>94802675So you just wanna make it Arasaka?Save it for the corporate wars, bud.
I play both Classic and AS and sometimes want to talk AS here as well. Would anyone be open to AS battle reports or am I better off just not posting them? I understand being unhappy with CGL and how they handled AS, and I do think Classic is better, but AS can still be fun for large scale games or quick play and I don't get why the hate is as emphatic as it seems sometimes.
>>94802675No. The weeb stuff is fun. Soul crushing corporatism is boring as fuck. We deal with that shit IRL I don't need it in my games too.
>>94802753The hate is emphatic because AS was openly supposed to be a replacement for BT, and support for BT was completely pulled for a while in favor of AS. Then they came crawling back.It's very easy to imagine them trying to replace BT a fourth time, and AS is the poster child for that.
>>94802775I understand that, I'm aware it happened, but wasn't that years ago by this point? It just seens silly to me to be so strongly opposed to it. It's not like it's a threat at this point.
>>94802675You can already do that with the ALAG and companies like LAW. Luthien Armor Works is straight up a cyberpunk fascist (in the sense that the state and corporation are inseperable) megacorp that can functionally write its own laws and is assumed to be a loyal state actor by default. If they needed to kill someone, they would be free to call in a military hit squad to do it, assuming they didn't just use their own corporate assassins.
>>94802793It's mostly ritual posting no different than the honor the dragon stuff.
>>94802775To be fair, classic battletech could do with some reworks. Specifically weights for some weapons. Would also like to switch to d8s or d10s. In general though keep it mainly the same
>>94802753I wasn't around for the attempted replacement, but Alpha Strike really lacks the flavor of Classic.I would rather much see a lance v lance Classic battle report over a company v company Alpha Strike one.That being said, I'm not going to complain if you have nicely painted mechs accompanying your posts.
>>94802800I admit I personally would like to see rebalancing around Auto Cannons, but I don't really think that's a very unusual opinion.
>>94802806You aren't wrong. It's very bland. I still enjoy it, but it's a very different enjoyment from classic. For classic every mech has its own unique feel and I love that. The mechs in AS don't really feel right. They don't feel like different machines with their own quirks. Just game pieces. I still enjoy the manuever and positioning aspects of the game. And list building is still interesting, if much much less so than classic. But I admit there is a little thrill in managing to get a whole company onto the field. Even if the mechs don't feel right there's something about seeing all three lances on the table at once that just tickles me. Classic is definitely my main game, and without classic I think I'd get bored of AS pretty fast, but it's kind of nice to sprinkle them in every now and again.
>>94802656Bonus: Now I've put these together. Avatar Prime, Dragon II, Avatar A
>>94802629>3. they like elements of the Clans, and hold the opinion that MyGuys would do some tweaks here and there to make it one possible ideal society
>Atlas, Bushwacker, Caesar, Catapult, Cameleon, Goliath, Gunslinger, Starslayer, and WolfhoundCan you guys split/align these mechs between 2 factions? (preferably 4 vs. 4 and dropping one)
>>94803107Wolfhound, Bushwacker, and Caesar are all FedCom or Lyran, and they like the Atlas too. Catapult, Goliath, Starslayer, Chameleon could be fairly Capellan. Gunslinger is a weird one.
>>94802712>None of the slaughter and war crimes ever get punished.Amaris corrected this mistake
>>94802775I keep hearing about this but all I'm told about it is "trust me bro" and the only evidence I can find is that they branded a bunch of miniature packs as "Alpha Strike". Which means nothing since they're miniatures
>>94802675Toyota logo doesn't look menacing enough (unless you are Ford/GM worker from 70-80s)
>>94803032>Clans>ideal society
>>94803241Yeah, no one thinks this at all. >>94802415 is a weirdo who's trying to shove his politics into discussions about the game
>>94801990Hello,With all due respect, that is a baseless allegation that unfairly maligns the sterling reputation of Catalyst Game Labs (an imprint of In Media Res LLC). With a few notable exceptions that we can assure you were well-deserved, Catalyst Game Labs has not and never will be in the practice of making game development decisions solely on the basis on inconveniencing individual players not named Scott Malcomson. Game development decisions are always made first in the best financial interests of the company, and then priority is given to what we believe will provide the most unique and interesting play experience for the player base. Ideally, this process also subverts audience expectations in the process, making BattleTech fiction some of the most interesting to experience and well-rounded in the entire genre of 31st century BattleMech combat.I can personally assure you that deliberately targeting problematic player bases like yours has only ever existed as a small component of our overall development process. Please be more mindful of your words in the future, and thank you for your support of our great company!Thank you for your time,-TCO
>>94802629The pseudo-socialist command economy, opposition to feudal monarchies, and weird sex culture is actually very in line with their values.
>>94803280Stop shoving your obsession with real world politics down our throats, or better yet kill yourself. This is a battletech thread. Post mechs or fuck off.
>>94803241the clans are genuinely the ideal society of someone somewhere
>>94803290So is every possible permutation of every possible society. Do you think we should always judge a group by the thoughts and actions of its worst possible member?
>>94803294Only if I don't like them for personal reasons and it makes them look bad.
>>94803294kratocracists? yeah.
>>94803301says a lot more about you than it does about them, fren
>>94803294>judge a group by the thoughts and actions of its worst possible member?If that group is leftists? Yes. Every and any action is permissible and justified when fighting the left. They are the true enemies of everything civilization stands for.
>>94803289Christ sort out those bases
>>94803289What are those two heug mechs?
>>94803289>stranded on the designated shitting planet
>>94803290Clans are epitome of 1) Massive PTSD2) Desperate measure brought to extreme
>>94803332>They are the true enemies of everything civilization stands for.Such as..?
>>94803366Ares superheavy tripods. https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ares_(OmniMech)>>94803352>>94803369I'll put grass flock on them eventually, but I don't use my FWL much.
>>94803117Slingers a feddie mech, give the atlas to the cappies because everyone has atlas'And you got some good ol fed vs cap fighting going on
>>94802310Imagine the visibility and situational awareness of a guy sitting in a bunker on legs 10 meters off the ground with a 10kg bucket on his head and one window to observe the battlefield out of.A paintgun would be the ultimate mech disabler weapon.
>>94803399Hitting a mech with a fluid gun filled with paint only adds +1 to hit
>>94803399Something something viewstrips something 360 vision
>>94803411Also the ancient lore of mechs using sensors placed all over them to project a view for the pilot as wide or narrow as they wish in many spectrums of detection.
>>94801816the autoloader is stored in the balls
>>94794539Fact is stranger than fiction.
>>94803482Jesus, AI just keeps getting worse
Two retards fighting in hell
>>94803411>>94803443But 'mechs have windows so that Grayson Carlyle can watch enemy mechwarriors die while on fire inside, multiple times.
>>94803208this is your daily reminder that the TOYODA clan of samurai never died out. they merely changed with the times.same for YAMAHA, MISTUBISHI, SUNTORY etc. hell. almost every famous japanese distillery was started by a samurai clan going merchant and making booze.
>>94803593And it's damn fine whiskey, too. Suntory's Toki is a staple of my home bar.
Has anything been written about how units are rated in universe? Clearly they can't calculate the average of the piloting and gunnery skills. It would be obvious that the 1st Davion Guards is more skilled than the 1st New Avalon Militia, but what decides which units are declared elite and which are merely veteran?
>>94803593>this is your daily reminder that the TOYODA clan of samurai never died outWeird thing to base your samurai clan on, but ok I guess
>>94803589Windows are backups when the fancy stuff fails.
The Bulldog or the Vedette for pirates? Not complete mooks but not bandit kingdom level dudes
>>94803708Bulldog
>>94803708The Vedette imo, an AC5 as its main weapon screams cheap to me.
>>94802443>It will be very silly if they keep the fidelis branding given that they have basically betrayed the republic at the first real opportunity to do so.So did every clan who bothered with making any agreements with SpheroidsExiled Wolves betrayed LCWSnow Raven betrayed Outworld Alliance once they recovered after abjurationNova Cat betrayed CombineSpirit Cats betrayed FWLGhost Bears turned on RasalhagiansSo far the only relatively reasonble clanners were Goliath Scorpion, Hell's Horse and CJF remnants
>>94802933>INITIATE ENHANCED IMAGING
>>94803708Both are extremely common SLDF designs found everywhere from backwater militias to serious frontline forces throughout known space. The bulldog has the bonus of not being hot garbage.
>>94803733Nova Cats didn't betray the combine, they sheltered the rightful coordinator the same as Rasalhague did that one time, it's just that the usurpation worked because it was the dark age.
>>94803779>rightful coordinatorYou mean a weakling pawn AFTER Coordinator already was proclaimed?Yep certainly doesn't look like betrayal
ilKhan's Eyes Only comes out tomorrow. Are yall ready for a shitfest such as /btg/ has not seen since the original ilClan book?
>>94803810Who?What?Anon, it's 3067, go back to bed.
>>94803810Maybe we will learn more about the mysterious Lorem ipsum thunderbolt chassis.
>>94803810You think there will be any new mechs?
>>94803810It cannot be that hazardous to an anus compared to previous CGL sins.
>>94803837Oh easily.
>>94803790Assuming you aren't roleplaying, and like me you haven't read the dark age novels, you are confused. Emi Kurita was the firstborn daughter of the coordinator who was assassinated by parties unknown. Yori "Kurita" is the grandaughter of a bastard who specifically renounced the throne, found and sponsored by a rebellious warlord.
>>94803810How bad could it be? I mean really it'll probably just be boring.
>>94803914IMO, not as borring as annoying
>>94803833Maybe three or four new variants in a mini-TRO, but they don't really add mechs in sourcebooks.
New thread? New thread!>>94804044>>94804044
>>94804046If they do it'll be one or two new variants along with one or two "named" variants like they have in past sourcebooks
>>94794539Not again... NOT AGAIN!!!>>94794991>Looks like it's about to do the impossible and beat the unbeatable.ROW ROW, FIGHT DA POWAR!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6LFOIofRE>>94803482>>94803507THERE REALS I TELL YA, REAL!!!
>>94802533>leftoids>able to draw a distinction between "I think this is interesting fiction" and "I support this unironically in real life"Can you point me to the portal to your bizarro world?
>>94803276This is a weird shitpost
