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New Goblins Soon Edition

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>Previously
>>94815706

>TQ
What are your favorite goblins?
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>>94823277
What card has the biggest boobs on a female?
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amonkhet team has the best ride
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>>94823277
What kind of goblins do you guys like? Mine are the redcaps.
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>>94823303
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>>94823318
For actual humanoid size you are probably correct.
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We're returning to Lorwyn next year for more goblin tribal.
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>>94823337
>Murderous Redcap
Totally forgot about this card
How many infinite combos is this nigga in
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Hey shit heels, YouTube is telling me Avatar the Last Airbender is coming to MTG. Is this happening or no
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>>94823387
It is. We are not looking forward to the continued dilution of our brand, and your favorite show getting cards is not a good reason to start playing MTG. Collect the set if you want, but wait a few months after it comes out so that the prices stabilize and settle.
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>>94822652
For a deck like Jewel Shops or Bazaar variants that have lower numbers of blue cards it can make a difference.

>>94823318
There was a Russian copy of this at the weird LGS in the city here that I passed on and regret it because I like fat women.
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My favorite goblins.
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>>94823415
I got into MTG for a very limited time in college because I thought Ixalan looked cool. My dinosaur deck was a blast to play with friends, but after college I tried going to my local game shop and got my ass blasted. I like the cards, I like the game, I like a lot of the art, but I don’t have the autism to memorize the meta
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>managed to make a playable vein ripper + sorin list that I enjoy in modern
my pet project of making banned pioneer decks work in modern is starting out well, think I'll work on inverter or winota next
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>>94823432
Were Akki still dangerous and an actual threat by the time of Neon Dynasties?
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>>94823438
Competitive MTG sucks making things you think are fun and playing with friends will always be more enjoyable unless winning is all you care about
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>>94823387
It has been theorized due to:
1. The arena shop made deals based on future sets with one being based on the 4 elements and 3 bender cards.
2.MTG & Nickelodeon are working on a SpongeBob secret lair so they are in talks.
3.The intended set was replaced with this secret set for unknown set probably because an Avatar movie is being released at the same time.
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>>94823449
If you can make my girl work let me know, I love Winota
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We need more female goblins.
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Why don't goblins have big noses anymore?
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>>94823452
Akki were still dangerous in them being destructive like most goblins, but most of their factional danger came from the fact that they were a fiercely territorial group of mountain tribes with unique magic, that served as a third disruptive faction in the Kami War.
Now they are just part of Kamigawa society.
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>>94823438
In that case, the more casual atmosphere of /edhg/ might be your speed. >>94816974 Commander decks are kind of evergreen, so you only need to build one and you're set. If you like Dinosaurs, there are a wide variety of options, budgets, and power levels you can build in to get the deck that feels right to you.
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>>94823537
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Redpill me on Hydra cards. How do people use them?
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>>94823569
Krenko has a big nose again? This just looks like a reprint.
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>>94823570
What a bizarre question
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>>94823570
>Redpill me on Hydra cards.
they're big and they cost a lot of mana
>How do people use them?
ramp decks, although in progenitus case, you usually cheat it into play
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>>94823537
>>94823569
A chain of events starting with people think the goblins in Harry Potter being an racial class of coldhearted bankers was racist.
From there it spread out to the point where any traits that could be considered a Jewish stereotype on a goblin was racist.
>>94823570
Hydra's are big Mana dumps for green ramp decks that have mostly fallen out of fashion outside of limited because a big creature on tis own will be out valued these days.
In limited its a bomb or finisher creature type.
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>>94823449
Nice anon, I have a dream of doing that with Cat Oven one day.
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>>94823570
In oops all spells
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>>94823603
My favorite one is where people thought the star in Gringotts was an age-old antisemitic canard that bigots slipped in as a to dogwhistle to nazis...but they filmed it in a real bank.
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>>94823537
>Why don't goblins have big noses anymore?
Because they need to be more accurate, realistic caricatures of real people instead of outlandish fantasy creatures.
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It's fucking insane how broken and power crept Duskmourne was.
And it still sold like shit lmao.
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>>94824571
What do you expect from a team like pic rel
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>>94824655
If everything truly is developed on a two year lag, then that means judging by Standard FIRE design bans, White was intentionally kept weaker compared to all the other colors this entire time. Which means it's not a question of incompetence by the council of colors leader for White, but rather a systemic bias by all of Jotc to keep White weak. You can meme about "schizo" all you want, folks, but the reality is that all these sets in all this time by all these people were collaborated on together and yet still time after time, resulted in only nonwhite bans for 7 years. That's not only astounding, it's embarrassingly blatant.

The rot goes to the top.
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>>94824797
Oh yeah White is so weak right now.
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>>94824829
Anon, that card is WUBRG.
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>>94824797
What more do you want from white?
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>>94825086
Proton Packs desu.
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I like how every deck in Pioneer right now is just "Vomit as much overtuned generic FIRE goodstuff as you can into a single deck" with zero exceptions.
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>>94824395
>bank
No, it's the High Commission of Australia.
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I can't believe there's a black on Swords to Plowshares.
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>>94823277
>>94823569
I prefer GOBLIN KING
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>>94825711
>No, the REAL Goblin King
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>>94823277
>Fucking Hearthstone-tier art
god can we please actually just fuck off with this shit
like legitimately can everyone who works at WotC be blacklisted from working in literally every industry on the planet please
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I have never seen a person playing pioneer in my life but I decided to make a deck for that format anyway to keep in my trunk, just in case I meet one some day.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6870562#paper
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>>94825720
verne troyer?
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>>94823277
>TQ
GOBLINO BROS RISEEEE
Our time will come and finally we will become as good as humans!!!
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>>94824829
>5 color Domain kikery
Mark please
>>94825086
Oh shit an aura it would be such a shame if there wasn’t already a billion fucking 1-2 mana kill spells in standard right now or a durdley chinkity otter combo that doesn’t care.

Come back when white has a tier one 30% meta deck dominating the format. Except that will never fucking happen when the designers hate the color and let the others run roughshod over Standard for years but nobody cares.
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friendly reminer don't interact with white schizo for your own mental health.
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So is grixis affinity just hosed against poison storm? It feels like you could do something if you had counterspells but you can't run CS with it's manabase and even if you brought annul it's not actually good enough because most of their big draw cards are sorceries. Pauper obv.

>>94826243
Thanks, I was actually considering it
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way too many games these days feel like they're over by turn 2
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>>94826417
Welcome to FIRE age.
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>>94826417
It's because modern cards are designed for 40 health formats, not 20.
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>>94826417
I blame the attention span fried audience
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>>94825804
very cool deck anon
since you don't do anything with you graveyard, consider running one copy of this
also vanishing verse is probably the best interaction spell you can run in orzhov colors
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>>94826920
This is a bad card btw
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Friendly reminder that memeing “white schizo” doesn’t change the facts of biased fire design for the past 7 years which resulted in multiple yearly bans in Standard of which none were mono White despite all cards and sets and power levels being designed at the exact same time.
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Damn white gets to keep evading bans that's crazy unfair
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tq
I don't really play Goblins, but I always liked this one.
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>>94825804
>>94826920
Fatal Push is the best interaction spell you can run. But a few copies of Verse is fine.

That deck's far to slow and clunky to do anything, sadly. Many times it simply won't be able to cast a single spell against the current tax-heavy Company list. Aggro will steamroll it. Phoenix just ignores the entire deck.

The Oaths are cute but I'd drop them for Pushes, Verses and a March of Otherworldly Light or a 1-of Get Lost. Legion's Landing should probably also get cut, probably for a board wipe like Split Up or maybe Doomskar since you don't have access to blue for Supreme Verdict.

Don't be surprised if you get steamrolled if you do try to play. Walkers are extremely weak in the current "Everything is a FIRE-infused tempo+midrange" meta.
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>Waaah waaaah white weak
Fuck off
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>Oy vey, white is fine goyim
Eat shit, shekel sucker
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>>94827380
What?
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>story doesn’t even finish today
>have to wait until Monday for the “““thrilling conclusion”””
I just want it to be over, bros
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>>94827721
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>>94827799
Unfortunately, I have too much sympathy for my clients to off myself until after the end of tax season.
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>>94827721
Have we stopped pretending that mtg story from the past 3 years is ok?
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Episode 5 of 6. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/aetherdrift-episode-5-first-over-the-line
>Daretti, Chandra, Pia and Loot emerge from the Omenpath in the skies above Amonkhet
>High in the skies, to the point that they're liable to fall to their death
>Pia desperately tries to stablise the ride so it's not falling point-first, Daretti tries to attach stabilising wings to the side, Chandra uses fire to try and push against the ground and only ends up boiling an oasis, Loot is just terrified
>They land, messily, but alive, leaving a huge blemish on Amonkhet for years to come, but hey
>Chandra's the first to wake up, and checks to make sure everybody's okay
>Daretti's supplies include medicine because the man is prepared for so much bullshit
>Chandra, too injured to be tactful, asks Daretti if the pain she's feeling now is close to what he feels all the time and he mostly just laughs it off and says he'll look at the engine and see what can be done while the rest of the group rests
>After about three hours, Daretti informs them that the engine is totally kaput, and most wouldn't be able to fix it with the supplies on hand, but they're not most people
>Chandra gets to play the part of welding torch while Pia and Daretti fix the engine using whatever stuff they can around them
>Daretti outright says this might be a whole new type of engine, and it apparently involves palm fibers and hippo bones
>Daretti tells the Nalaars to rest properly while he finishes fixing the thing up
>They bicker a bit but agree to leave and have a talk about fixing things, alongside Loot, who compliments how Chandra seems to just wanna fix things that're wrong in general
>Pia says she gets that from her, but a lot of other stuff from her dad
>Eventually Pia finally asks why Chandra didn't wanna race with her
>Chandra's response is she wanted the best chance to win, but Pia says that they're family, if she really needed help for her own family with Nissa, Pia would've been there
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>>94828285
Oh nice... Now i know the shit that will be ruin my formats in the future... YAY!!!
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>>94827380
>jews are keeping the black man (monowhite) down
I'm not sure what political narrative you think is being pushed by the color that is supposed to be weak continuing to be weak.
>but why should monowhite be weak!!
It's necessary to keep RW/UW down.
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>>94828133
No, but I’ve been reading the fucking things for twenty years now and it’s a hard habit to kick.
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>>94828263
>Daretti doesn’t talk anything like a normal goblin
I guess that tracks with yesterday
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>>94828263
>They end up looking at the stars and talking about other stars and potential life out there within this same plane
>Apparently Saheeli and Pia used to talk about planetary travel because that's a whole different kettle of fish than interplanar travel
>Chandra eventually starts to talk about how sad Nissa clearly is when talking about Zendikar, and that's why Chandra's so desperate to win
>Chandra begins to panic and talk about how they're clearly not gonna win NOW, but Pia just hugs her and comforts her
>Chandra says she wishes she could just find some magic way to fix things, but Pia says there isn't always a solution like that
>Chandra asks what do you do when your attempts don't work, Pia says you improvise
>Chandra awakes in the middle of the night, not having had a full night's sleep in months (apparently Phyrexian Nissa, Urabrask's death screams and the Mirran corpses as they stormed the Seedcore still haunt her)
>She wanders to the oasis and settles down to relax, before a man appears next to her, one of Amonkhet's gods apparently
>It's a lion-masked one, so Ketramose
>Chandra, actually reacting to the sudden appearance of a god she didn't know about, asks how he's there
>Ketramose basically shrugs and says "look, the spirit of this world is alive regardless of what Bolas did, so here I am, there's still life so there's still gods"
>Ketramose's talk helps center Chandra's worries a bit, and she asks if there's anything she can give him in return
>Ketramose asks if she could tell him of other worlds, of glory and of life in them
>Chandra starts to tell him about Zendikar
>Anyway, back to Spitfire
>Her racing is going perfectly and she's back in Ghirapur for the final final section
>Winter's the only racer that still poses a threat, and without Loot they're clearly struggling to maintain a lead
>Just as she's about to overtake Winter, there's suddenly a wall in front of her
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>Chandra getting mogged by her mum
I'm...ok with this, especially if they are trying to de-sexy Chandra this hard.

Here's hoping there is some art of Chandra with the top half of the bike suit tied around her waist from the story (not going to happen...).
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>>94828333
edh things
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>>94828336
>Winter and her are both surprised, and it's the track's safety precautions being turned against them
>They crash, but Spitfire survives, albeit horribly concussed, and she finds somebody pulling her out, and realises her mask has half been blown off her face
>And there is her father, asking her what the hell is happening, what is the meaning of this, etc.
>Mohar orders them to take her to the doctor, and then further to tell NOBODY of this
>Jace and Vraska, meanwhile, are interrogating Winter, and Jace just mind-invades him because he knows Winter's the kind of guy who'd never give up a 'bargaining chip', which Vraska finds a little harsh to say, but Jace clarifies that's what he is to Winter, not to him
>Jace learns that Loot isn't with Winter anymore, and says they MIGHT need to keep Winter with them for now, because currently he's a loose end and they can't afford that
>Daretti finishes up his work in the morning, looking with pride at his cluttered hunk of junk vehicle
>Loot points out a nearby Omenpath, and Chandra finally pieces together that Loot is how Winter was getting ahead, and thinks maybe they're not out of the race after all
>Then realises probably not, but they'll still make a good entrance
>The narration notes she will regret those words
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>>94828308
>These arbitrary color pairs is why a single color should always be weak and other colors can have broken shit all the time that needs to be banned every year
Holy shit what a fuckin schizo you are.
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>>94828336
>Apparently Saheeli and Pia used to talk about planetary travel because that's a whole different kettle of fish than interplanar travel
Are they really going for this angle in EoE? Just pretend like planes have multiple planets that we've never seen or heard from before?
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>>94829004
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>>94829004
It's called retcon.
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>>94823577
Someone answer me?
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>>94828346
Damn, Chandra really let herself go, look at that pouch belly on her.
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How bad was New Capenna?
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>>94828346
Goblins without the nose makes them look like midget orcs.
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>>94829076
In what way? The story was the same generic crap as usual save for the idea of a whole world where everybody is a type of demon. That concept was fun, but WotC would never do anything interesting with it.

Gameplaywise it was forgetable save for the new trilands and some cards here and there. There was that ledger dude that was all the rage for a while.
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>>94829104
>There was that ledger dude that was all the rage for a while
Who
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>>94829004
I don't understand how this will impact the fomori lore. They were present on multiple planes, but also were capable of space travel.
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>>94829076
Pretty fucking awful.
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>>94829004
Some planes have had that for a while. Some are explicitly all there is, like Theros is nothing but Theros, but Dominaria's long been established as having other planets around it within its plane.
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>>94829076
the setting was shit but it had a lot of cool combo cards
also we got the rest of the tri-color lands and ledger shredder
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>>94829076
Not as bad as people said
A lot worse than you believe
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>>94829144
But better question... Will the Fomori ever be relevant?
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>>94829344
PROBABLY for the arc after Tarkir, is my guess. Jace will do A Thing, it will Go Bad and oh no all the Fomori are here now and Jace has to make up for his own problem, hence the whole prophecy thing they had in Bloomburrow.
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>>94829076
worst set of the year
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Thunder Junction had so much potential for a cowboy western plane, did it actually not do well? What made them fuck up?
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>>94829614
They don't actually know anything about or even like stories about the Old West, they just think saying "pardner" is funny and listen to that song about saving a horse by riding a cowboy.
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>>94829636
>Make set based off old west
>Don't study history of the old west or even watch some western movies
What absolute retardation.
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>>94829614
It was just utterly terrified of actually engaging with the genre in any way beyond the superficial aesthetics (and even that was minor as hell), coupled with not showing ANY of the supposed worldbuilding or explaining why so many fucking characters were there.
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>>94829614
DEI
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>>94829651
If every set has to be unique, you will be forced to condense as much value of it as you can.
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>>94829614
Anyone who wanted a cowboy western set in a game about wizards conjuring monsters and throwing fireballs was retarded to begin with. They got what they deserved, it’s just unfortunate that the rest of us have to deal with the fallout of it.
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>>94829677
don't forget all the other non-high-fantasy/modern settings they are shoehorning in recently
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Why do these faggots on MTG Arena always afk and run out the clock when they're about to lose? I know they're doing it because they're butthurt they lost and they're desperately trying to lash out and cause me any amount of annoyance or maybe hope that I get bored and concede. But WHY do they need to be such faggots? When I lose I just concede and go to the next. Is there anything to do about this?
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>>94829614
Where were the weapons?
Why we had to deal with literally 0 Gamble?
Not a single Explosive mechanic?
The amount of pointless legendaries?
Fucking Outlaws tokens as the most imaginative stuff they could come with and Cactusfolk relegated to few cards...
I think EVERYTHING went wrong with that set
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>>94829737
>trying to lash out and cause me any amount of annoyance
and they succeeded
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>>94823303
easy
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>>94823303
Exposure is more important than size.
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>>94829925
Hmm, yeah I forgot about Visara.
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>>94829737
because arena kills any joy you feel when playing magic and sometimes you just want to try and hurt people
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>>94829993
why not both?
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>>94830006
Exava is also packing (kind of hard to tell from the card, but the full size art...)
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>>94829324
Nobody runs wishclaw talisman, you're not a combo deck its 3 mana to replace itself
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evens - sell grinding station now
odds - wait some more
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Rate my choice of basic forest for legacy RUG lands
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Just won a game where I
>kill opponents hinterland sanctifier
>exile it with ghost vacuum
>kill opponents starscape cleric
>exile it with ghost vacuum
>kill opponents bloodthirsty conquerer
>exile it with ghost vacuum
>oh
>OH
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>>94830658
7/10
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>>94826277
Pretty much, Poison Storm preys on midrange piles like Grixis Affinity.
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>>94831229
Guess it's back to the monoblue/dimir cuckshed for me.
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>>94830658
9/10
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>>94823303
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>>94831538
they don't make cards like this one anymore...
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>>94831538
>>94831548
They used to make this game for 14 year old boys.
Now now they make it for 20-35 year old funko collecting manchildren and their local Seattle social circles.
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>>94831640
I mean, that would mean that they're still making it for the same people, since someone who was around 14 when Moriok Scavenger was printed would be around 35 now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBDfRRb20g
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>>94831640
>>94831727
I never forgave them for what they did to mirrodin. How dare they ruin my first block
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>>94831782
I hate to tell you this, anon, but it was straight-up there in the books that I was reading as it came out. The oil was there day one, and the strange changes were already present by Darksteel.
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>>94828371
I just feel the need to tell people, I fucking hated Jace years before Wizards decided to make a weird petty schemer out of him
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>>94831839
>before Wizards decided to make a weird petty schemer out of him
So before his first introduction? He was a morally ambiguous dude from the start, it was only more recently they tried to make him a good guy.
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Is Aetherdrift a hat set?
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>>94828762
Better than a biased kike
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>>94831881
No is a Roboto set.
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>>94831881
in a way, vehicles are just hats that you wear using your butt
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>>94823485
the cobbler would be amazing in my 8 whack deck, alas not modern legal
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This is the most /ccg/-ass card in Standard. Just an absolutely fanfic-tier design by some WotC troon who couldn't help xerself.
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>>94832090
They're trying to look for more new design space to explore, having already printed over twenty thousand unique cards. Some are bound to be duds
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>>94832090
I swear to god wizards R&D simply does not understand the concept of tempo
its like, look at me, I flash in end of turn 2, tap down a creature for 2 turns, swing in and oops become a kaito who deals 3 damage and surveil 2 draw a card and then oops next turn tap down another creature and play another removal or 2 mana flash creature swing in with kaito and drowner and fairie lmaooo
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>>94832090
When I first saw this card I had to do a double-take.
"Ice" effects are traditionally costed at 1UU or at least 3cmc. They're crazy good tempo and, though not overpowered by any means, need to be treated with care.

Then WotC is just like... 2cmc? Yeah sure. Also, flash, and Vigilance, and turn it into removal too.

DSK was the most retarded shit in the universee. Every card is power crept to the moon, and none of them were power crept in just one way. It's not just a better Phyrexian Arena, it's a P.Arena that's easier to cast, your opponent loses the life instead, you gain life, it comes with a 6/6 demon, AND draws at EoT instead of upkeep.

It's not just an "Ice" creature. It's one that has flash, and vigilance, and is undercosted, AND doubles as removal.

These designers are very stupid people with zero talent.
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>>94832427
>designed for 40 health
This might actually happen?
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>>94832427
You need to get with the times grandpa, every creature is overpowered now, that's just how FIRE design works
Sure, you used to pay 3 mana to get a 2/2 creature that taps an opponent down for a turn. It only tapped for ONE turn, because you cast it on your own turn, no flash, so they are stunned once. But now you can just cast it before combat on their turn and remove their creature from the next 2 turns of the game
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>>94832090
This card is legacy playable in mono blue delver and fish of course
>>94832223
R&D don't play magic, they play EDH
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>>94832472
Something I appriciated about the WoW TCG was that you could choose your starting health by chosing your class and hero - this was balanced with respect to to the spells your class (and profession and spec) had access to and your hero's ability. That said I don't think it would fit into MTG as to support this, the game needs to be designed with it in mind from the start, and I don't think that trying to change the starting health in 1v1 formats is a good idea when Lightning Bolt is a fundamental expression of how much damage a 1 mana spell should be able to do.
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>>94831782
>>94831832
Yeah Mirrodin was built with being a way to bring the Phyrexians back in mind.
It was quite literally a plane made to die.
However its also the most noteworthy casualty of Wizards breaking almost every setting they made in the 2000s and the first half of the 2010s.

Mirrodin: consumed by Phyrexian corruption
Kamigawa: Survived as was until Neo-Retconned the Jace Novel
Ravnica: Besides the Dimir getting revealed and Living Guildpact creation the setting has endured while keeping the same shape off the sheer strength of its core mechanical identity and iconic guilds.
Time Spiral Era Dominaria: Is another Dominaria Set but was also meant to be the sendoff to the plane in its capacity as a primary setting for the foreeable future.
Lorwyn/Shadowmoor: The big gimmick of the Plane was resolved by the end of the books
Alara: All the shards were recombined, the factions all got mix and/or exploded and it lost its mechanical wedge theming in favor of being 5 colored
Zendikar: Was munched on by the Eldrazi

I could continue the list up until Amonkhet but you get the point.

In bitter irony, by the time Wizards realized they fucked up by treating each setting as disposable and started walking things back and making sure more current plains were stable, the game was already at the point of shit lore and worldbuilding overall.
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>>94832792
Kamigawa is the worst among them.
At least other planes can theoretically rebuild. Alara can be broken again.

But what they did to Kamigawa? The total butchery of its aesthetic in its entirety, for the sake of shitty GUNDAM ripoffs and DJs with turntables?
No recovering from that.
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I'm retarded and this deck is retarded and standard is retarded and arena is retarded
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>people from lgs legacy community want to start having lgs-run premodern events with entry fees and prize pools
>this is fine
>lgs is a WPN premium store so doesnt allow proxies or cards without standard backs
>there are at least 4 other non-WPN stores that would be willing to run it
for what purpose
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>>94823303
Elf Nightclub Bouncers
pun intended
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>>94833165
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Do people even play pioneer irl or is mostly just online
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>>94833035
You don't get promos or more allocation of product without WPN status
Most rational stores just lie about it anyway but yours doesn't.
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>>94833270
My LGS does but its a fight to get anything firing outside of the core 6, there was a moment when we were getting 9-10 people for it consistently, but the grinders abandoned it once Wizards pulled the plug on it being on the circut.
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>>94833270
they do, but there's no incentive for grinders to play the format since it's out of season for the rest of 2025, pioneer does well in my LGS but that's a direct consequence of how expensive modern has become, pauper also gets a lot of traction because of this

if you're talking absolute numbers, there's definitely more pioneer players online thanks to arena
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>>94833270
At my LGS it's me and one other guy, as well as a couple of modern players that sometimes dip into it for a break. For some reason everyone but me plays Phoenix. I just run whatever latest monoB shitbrew I've come up with.
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>>94833165
>>94833211
Alliance triggers amplify their busts.
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>>94833349
Tapping into red mana
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>>94833532
Seething Song
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>>94829004
There is one planet why not many?
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>>94829076
Limited was awful.
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>>94829344
We won't get the true conclusion until the set after the Strixhaven set.
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>>94829737
If you close the game out of anger it won't actually end the game and will wait until you come back you have to actually concede.
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>>94832090
They're experimenting with blue removal for draft since GU is weakest and has no strong creature removal.
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>>94832574
It's nearly except blue doesn't get 2 mana 2/2 at uncommon or life gain. Remove the lifegain and make it a 2/1.
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>>94833594
>The Dragonstorm arc
I'm still blown away by their big grand idea for a story arc is "We're going to put one dragon card in every set and get people hyped" as if EVERY SET DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE AT LEAST ONE FUCKING DRAGON IN IT
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>>94833656
>x/1 with persist
Anon, I...
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>>94833742
I suppose an X/1 with persist could work, since it still gets the etb trigger.
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>>94829004
>Are they really going for this angle in EoE? Just pretend like planes have multiple planets that we've never seen or heard from before?
I took this route for my scifi custom set, only with the excuse that the plane once was singular, and was destroyed so violently it's now a vast expanse with distant livable planets scattered through it.

Just claiming "lol other planets exist" on random planes is not accurate to MTG's lore, so I hope they don't do it.
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>>94833656
Mono blue has been getting uncommon bears and lifegain for a while
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>>94833810
Importantly, with double-pips.
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>>94833817
Yeah, is it truly a bear if it's MM and not 1M? ABU had a 2/2 for UU with upside, that's certainly not new.
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>>94833849
*at rare, not uncommon
But still, everyone knows creatures were way worse on average back then.
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>>94833849
Every color gets 2/2s for MM.
Green is unique in that it's the only color that gets 2/2s for 1M.
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>>94833849
but yeah there's 5+ uncommon blue bears when you include {UU} or split costs, a few with drawbacks, a few with strictly upsides like merfolk trickster
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>>94833901
???
blue is the only color to not have a {1}{M} for 2/2 uncommon (with no drawback)
it does have a 1U for 2/2 rare with all upside (archmage's newt)
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>>94833919
>"Bro, Wizards is retarded!"
Yeah, we know.
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>>94823318
>They still drew her wrong on purpose by putting her stomach further out than her tits
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Chandra's future transition is going great. Chandra is even a male's name.
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>>94834042
MUST
DELETE
ALL
BREASTS!!!!!!!!
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>>94833849

the amateurish nature of the abilities text mixed with the quality of the art and flavor text makes old magic so great.
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>>94834042
It's absolutely insane that these DEI pieces of shit are dedicating their actual lives and careers to ruining things people they'll never meet enjoy.

Like imagine if I dedicated my life to making blue hair dye worse and more expensive.
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>>94834042
didn't Chandra used to have Ds. I vaguely remember her steampunk boobplate.
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>>94834042
what the fuck she's not just flat and showing zero skin, she's literally zero chested. Less than a man. Not even talking moobs, but basic pectoral muscles. There is a completely straight line surface between her neck and abdomen. Even male twinks don't look that flat
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>>94834042
I bet one of her abilities is a -2
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>>94834042
This set is going to fucking suck lmfao.
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>>94834042
Damn, I knew she was gay for Nissa but I"m still surprised by Chandra becoming a nature mage in this story.
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>>94834042
The absense is conspicuous. There's CLEARLY a void here between her body and her bike, so I think she started out with normal sized breasts and then they got painted out.
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>>94834042
>Obvious Akira ripoff pose
>OBVIOUS Akira ripoff bike
The lack of creativity on display here is incredible.
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>>94834213
>The absense is conspicuous. There's CLEARLY a void here between her body and her bike, so I think she started out with normal sized breasts and then they got painted out.
I just had to do a forensic analysis of this.
I think you are correct, actually. The chest area of this piece shows striking noise level disparity. I'n my professional opinion, it's more likely than not that this piece has been repainted at least once.
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>>94834213
>>94834281
the abilities that people manifest when faced with adversity are truly beautiful
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>>94834281
Furthermore, a quick look shows the noise pattern in the chest area is not present anywhere else in the image.
You could argue it's similarly noisy in areas where the water splashes are, but that's an element of image composition and can be reasonably excluded.

Only one area of this image appears to be repainted or retouched, possibly by AI inpainting though that's not something you can confirm.
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>>94823570
>Redpill me on Hydra cards.
Terrible tribe, trying to force them as Green's dragons/demons/angels/sea creatures has been an ongoing mistake.

>How do people use them?
Generally, smart people don't.
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>>94834213
>>94834281
>>94834312
And though I can't confirm AI inpainting, I will say,
In my professional opinion, traditional repainting almost never results in more noise over the repainted areas. More frequently, the original piece exhibits a noise pattern that is absent (or noticeably different) in the repaint.

It is VERY odd for a retouched area to have a noise pattern while most of the image does not. I would say this suggests AI inpainting though, again, that is speculation. I would say, whether or not it was inpainted, I think this is almost certainly repainted in some form.
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>>94829076
Better than NEO but it didn't have tranime so midwits hated it by comparison.
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>>94829614
>cowboy set with no guns
You tell me what went wrong.
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>>94829614
>did it actually not do well?
No it sold like shit.
Basically the only buyers were people chasing SSSs.
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I put together my premodern deck. Finding specific prints is difficult when you live in a small country so I've had to go with some reprints here and there. Sorry for the bad lighting
>Why don't you just proxy?
>>94833035 just casual games until these start up. I'm using printer proxies for a bunch of the cards but will have to change soon.
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>>94834213
Yeah okay, the more I pick this apart, the more I suspect it is AI inpainted.

As they say, it's a confluence of evidence that is most damning. The strange noise levels around the chest and only the chest, plus bizarre distortions in otherwise perfectly regular tile patterns, is cause for concern.
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>>94834416
>inB4 some intern used their Google Pixel to edit an artist's submission
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>>94834416
Now THIS is autism
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>>94834281
Aetherdrift and Edge of Eternites are gonna be the worst selling sets this year. Spiderman and Avatar the Last Airbender sets will also bomb. Only UB set that'll see some success is Final Fantasy. Should have just kept Lorwyn as the last set of the year but no, that Nickelodeon money was too much to handle.
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The jeskai looter deck actually looks really fun but I am not paying for that.
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>akira slide is gay and boring now
I know I look like pic rel but the magic is gone and it's not cool anymore.
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>>94834510
Talentless, uncreative losers are only ever able to sap the magic out of what was once great.

Akira is still great. Nothing will ruin that. Faggots funko pop collectors, however, have certainly tainted at least one aspect of it.
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WHY EVEN HAVE AN AKIRA SLIDE
IT'S NOT EVEN A FUCKING ANIME SET
AKIRA HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH RACING
WHAT EVEN THE FUCK DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH GAY CRIPPLE GOBLINS ON VAGUELY RACIST RACETRACKS
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>>94834531
There is a non-zero amount of people who think that akira is about a kid on a bike in a vaguely punk world.
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>>94834510
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I just wanna play my gentle giant in standard.

Which color you think would be the best? Just ramp him out in green? Or maybe with red has some artifact synergies also?
Or just cheat him into play either with arm's race or smuggler suprise, although i prefer arm's race even if it's the worse card because it's flavorful.
I was also thinking maybe in black because then i have good removal and there is Ashnod that can ramp up quickly. Especially as we have solemn and the cave solemn in standard now.
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>>94834578
>I just wanna play my gentle giant in standa- ACK
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Why Mono blue and green suck currently?
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>>94834581
>Ahead of the curve
>With upside
nuMagic fucking sucks.
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>>94834594
>upside
that's kind of understating it
picrel is a 2/2 for 1R with upside
that there is hitting you for 4+ damage per turn AND drawing a free card each turn
which funny enough is basically what Kaito does too, except this one just costs 2
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>>94834587
The whole game sucks. They're part of the game.
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>>94834587
What are either of those two going to do against >>94834581
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>>94834581
not really helpful anon
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>>94834621
The help is you realizing Standard is shit and you should not play it.
You're welcome.
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>>94834042
Wait wait wait DAFUCK?
We are going back to more than 1 PW for set? Because this is a PW faggots.
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>>94834281
>Cut off Chandra boobs
For what purpose?
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>>94834725
MALE GAZE BAD.



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