Little Troggy Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>94834872>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolswarhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/>Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php>Thread QuestionHave you ever built, or at least seriously considered building, an army that's entirely a subfaction of a larger army? Troggherd, Dispossessed, Nothin' but skellies, Skinks on Parade, etc
>>94840391>TQPic rel was perfect 2000 points at one point.I considered it after Runson became Battleline
>>94840391>entirely a subfaction of a larger armyOnce upon a time, you could run nothing but Blightkings + Lord of Plagues and one of either Festus or Spume + Blight Cyst formation cost for 2000. Was fun. Spume kinda needed for deepstrike but Festus could mean you were making some units take armour saves at -3.
Everything I managed to prime during the narrow window of priming weather this week. Now I just need to paint it...
>>94840391I once considered a dwarf only cities of sigmar army.But I'd imagine it's absolutely depressing to play
>>94840472>depressing to play You're already playing AoS mate lmao
i once ran a full skullcrusher list for a turnament and came in 3rd or 4th iirc.
>TQAll flying for tzeench, and mobile only units for soulblight if these count.
>>94840391i've got a full squigalanche. 3 manglers/ bosses, 30 boingrot bounders, 10 hoppers, 24 squigherd, 2 bosses on cave squigsits a fun army to paint. a bit less fun on the table since the balance for squig stuff seems to change wildly every time they write a new book. the index taking a point of save, 2 rend off its best profile, and impact hits off regular manglers fucking suuuuuuuuuucked, and the whole squig roster losing run and charge from the moon was a big bummer. idk if we are meant to fill that gap with rabble rowzas and squig bosses but having to spend hundreds of points for a speed buff we used to get for free is kinda sad. cut the speed of the boingrots almost in half
>>94840391No, and increasingly tacking what should be a separate army onto a book that was perfectly fine and cohesive without it is amongst the reasons why I dropped AoS.
>>94840568Extremely poor bait.
Somebody was talking about HoMM, which is as good an excuse as any to remind everyone that Nighthaunts only exist because of HoMM V Necropolis. Ghosts from WHFB looked nothing like modern Nighthaunts.
>>94840391Delf CoS.Krethusa only DoK
What are the chances the new draconith model comes with two heads to kitbash the extra onto the old zombie dragon?
>>94840619Forgot to mention Har Kuron.You could say I have a type
Giggled when I opened this months WD and they had a 'readers model' page with some nicely done Glade Guard (on rounds). Surprised GW even bothered to acknowledge it.
>>94840621We know it at least has parts of the 2nd head, cause Prince's mount has different horns
>>94840597What army would he play?
>>94840544Holy fuck LMFAO those names gave me second hand embarrassment. How can you people unironically see something called a BOINGrot™ and a squigALANCHE™ and say it with a straight face. These names read as if they're designed with children in mind
>>94840607Crainwraith was a thing
>TQI really liked the Idolators from broken realms, the religious fanatic priest element of chaos really spoke to me, and bought cultist stuff to take advantage of it. Then I really liked the Idolator heroic trait and expanded my collection, decided to kitbash a warshrine. Now like 60% of those units I grabbed aren’t useable without some shifting around what I run them as, and I really like Legion of the First Prince….
>>94840631And tongue
>>94840645You’re telling me the goblins bouncing around on squigs have some silliness and whimsy to them? That’s fucked up, I’m going to shit my pants
>>94840645>Dude... Get it!!! It's a Grot.. but he's jumping... Boing! Haha get it, Boingrot! The absolute state of nu GWs creative talent
>>94840645Bait used to be believable
>>94840645>designed with children in mind They are.
>>94840391Way back in 1st Ed I almost started a DoT army that was going to be all Kairics, and generic chaos dudes head swapped to be Kairics masks.Was also going to put the moon head from one of the Tzeentch heralds on an Ogreoid Thaumaturge.I then had to move due to work, and ended up not starting AoS at all, but I still have some Silver Tower kairics I was experimenting with.It would have played like dog shit, and wouldn't have stayed legal either. So while it would have been a fun hobby project, it could also have been viewed as too much work for too little return.>>94840607They literally said the whole Nighthaunt range was inspired by the vampire counts cairn wraith, which is a WHFB mini.
>>94840645Gloomspite players are full of fun and whimsy
>>94840786Gloomspite players are full of reddit and patting themselves on the back.
>>94840828>patting themselves on the back.definitely not what people do when they call everything they don't like "reddit"
>>94840786An adult male typed this out...
>>94840391If you could add any kit to an existing army what would you add? Could be whatever: Hero, Monster, warmachines...In my case since i saw this art i would like to see something like a Corpse cart for FeC, turning enemies into more ghouls and spreading the madness curse
>>94840938Armored idoneth infantry, armoredtzeentch infantry
Imagine laughing at cool goblinos, i would really like to know which armies these faggots play but i can guess the answer from a mile...
>>94840673How do humans get that big?
>>94840978Warped by nostalgia
>>94840978You put seed oils, salt and corn syrup in everything they could possibly eat, and you make their whole civilization completely dependant on using cars, or staying indoors (even just because of heat in some places).The first part is really good for business, because it makes them eat and buy fore of it.
>>94840828What army do you play?
>>94840938mounted Goblin Bolt Thrower
>>94840391>TQI recently started working on a troggherd. Trolls are cool, and it seemed like an easy army for learning to paint.
>>94841065>and it seemed like an easy army for learning to paint.A low model count makes it easy to get an army painted if you're new to painting, but to learn to paint you want a lot of practice, ie a horde army. Ideally one with a good mix of skin, fur, metal, fabric and so on so you get a variety of things/textures to deal rs0sywith.
>>94840391Deathrattle SBGL, but I never got into it because I figured black knights & gg are going to be refreshed and now they are, and we're getting an AoR.It's probably going to be dogshit on the table but atleast it might have recursion after OBR got fucked in that department. Would have been cool to get 2-3 new skeleton heroes, like a wight king on draconith as well.
>>94841093>rs0sywithYou alright bro?
I liked the skellies from the first SBGL drop and I really like these wights with great weapons, this may be how AoS finally gets me
>>94840645Goblins are funny.
>>94840978Americans>>94841020Salt is actually not bad for you if you don't go crazy, you need some especially when you're sweating heavily. Try running a half marathon in 30° while salt deprived
>>94841093I'm going to disagree. A super important part of learning how to paint is building up confidence. Doing nice big models, especially ones like Troggs that take drybrushing and washes really well so beginners can get good results, means every model feels like a real achievement. really it depends on the individual painter tho. What they want to get out of the hobby, where they want their hobby journey to go, and what feels best for them.
FUUUUUCK THE SECOND EDITION OF STORMCAST WERE COOL. So many bits that are just begging to be put on chaos warriors, and the robes are cool as well. Such a fucking shame that they got discontinued.
>>94841264Their diamond maces were ugly and stupid, thuderstrike weapons suck ass too, but not as much
>>94840391I have considered building a spite list for drycha to a hoardy murder mob. I still might do it but i wanna finish my 40k back log first.
How is Lauka Vai/Vengorian lord
>>94841462Nigga the monster dynasty is fucking dead now that we are regulated to that giant dragon
>>94840938Why we dont have a miniature about that beast moving the carrion wagon?! Where is my carrion beast?!?!
Is there a reason a horde army like FEC have elite cavalry? Just to give it some variation?
>>94842049Variety is better than being pigeonholed into exactly one option.
What should I print if I have scans of these options: alarielle, warsong revenant, treelords, kurnoths, both bug cavalry, durthu, treelords, spite and tree revenants, awakened wildwoodAlarielle, a treelord, 3 kurnoths with scythes or bows, one of each cavalry type and a spite squad rounding it out comes out to 1990
>>94842049Why wouldnt FeC have some elite units? Even Horse armies like Skaven have access to elite.
>>94842235they're rats not horses!
>>94842226Alarielle, treelord ancient, 3 kurnoths with swords, and 2 spiterider lancers are exactly 2000
>>94842239In the Morbheg’s case; they’re bats not horses!
>>94842226Alarielle but Coomer versions
i feel sorry for destruction ga
>>948422742/8 players in the top 8 for LVO AoS champs this weekend are playing Ironjawz.Only 1 has Kringenos
>>94842289does the aos lvo ever get streams?
>>94842261you've forgot your daily sip of sacred wine
>>94842263What are the coomer versions?
Can skaven viably go elite? You have so many elite and monster options in skaven now.
>>94842333yes
>>94840978You drink high sugar drinks like Coce instead of watet
>>94842313I don't know, I'm a Morathi coomer not an Alarielle coomer.
Just how many souls does sigmar have
>>94840391>TQMy sylvaneth army is almost exclusively from the evergreen hunt because I hate elves but like trees; the only non-hunt figs I have are a branchwitch, lady of vines and some dryads because I like the sculpts.
Planning on a PtG campaign. Any tips for a starter Stormcast list? I know that PtG offers a lot of future upgrades, so does it even matter much?
Is this dude getting replaced?
>>94842739Sadly.
>>94842749Bah I don't want to panic buy but I guess I have to
>>94840391Why don't they make battleboxes/starter vs sets with different races anymore?
>>94842766The last time they did it was like a year or two ago. That was just to give a pity hero to tzeench and lumineth.
>>94842749Bizarre.
>>94842766Technically they just did
Are they going to rename stuff in Aos to be less ridiculous moving forward? I rather like barrowguard more than grave guard or black knights.
>>94842836The faction is still called soulblight gravelords so I doubt it.
>>94842226Three copies of the wyldwood are almost mandatory
>>94842836Barrow Kingdoms have been a blanket term for lands rules by random Wight Kings since forever, they simply used the update to match models to lore
>>94842871I think they want to get Vampire Counts back to TOW so are updating everything. Can't complain since Grave Guard were some of the worst models I've ever built so I welcome this.Bizarre taht they felt the need to update the wight king, one of the most kino models in recent years. New one is cool too though.
>>94842885Or you know, they are updating shit that's the oldest in the range and doesn't realy amtch new aesthetic?
>>94842900Why not both? These things aren't mutually exclusive.
>>94842885Gonna be real, I don’t think I can really care for any of the old vc stuff anymore. Even if I wanted to make an army for it (in the old world or fantasy battle), it’d be so much more fun to use literally anything else to convert/proxy for. Some of these kits were god fucking awful and really tests a man’s patience to hobby with.
>>94840673That is a very sturdy chair right there, I'm impressed
>>94842921Were the legs shaven off?
>>94842944They're built to last thanks to MtG players
>>94840391>>94842960
>>94840391>TroggherdYep.>DispossessedAlso yep.>Nothin' but skelliesNope, not playing Death factions.>Skinks on ParadeNope, but Oops All Tzaangors.
>>94840391Have 1k Dispo (RIP) and BCR if these count as well.
>>94842836>Are they going to rename stuff in Aos to be less ridiculous moving forward?No, I guess they're going to rename stuff exclusively for the purpose of making the aos products identifiable as such compared to the whfb products for whenever they bring back those for TOWI'd not be surprised if they rename saurus warriors to seraphon warriors at some point
>>94842963kino
>>94842963
>>94843037>bret helmetThey truly can't hide their seething over complete TOW supremacy
>>94843041you do know cubicle makes a rpg for fantasy too, right?
>>94843045They don't, fantasy doesn't have black people.
>>94843051if it doesn't have them then who is holding my slann's palanquin?
>>94843077Pygmies
>>94843080they're pretty tall pygmies then
Morrda has to get an army of his own at some point, right? Or will he just be another Stormcast support deity? They could do really cool shit with Death GA civil war and him stealing souls of Stormcasts who were given true death via his rituals.
>>94843120>Morrda has to get an army of his own at some point, right?no
>>94842871Barrow Kingdoms is an almost entierly new term, the things you've been talking about have been called deathrattle kingdoms forever
>>94843120Morrda is more CoS than Stormcast, he's been associated with Lethis since the modern free cities were established at the end of 1e. They're just focusing more on diversifying the pantheons
>>94843132it's an older term than even aos
>>94843137all of ruination is tied to morrda, this gal is explicitly blessed by him in some way and so are all of the new gryphs
>>94843041this is art from WHRP
>>94843174Gravelords are now CALCIUM CITY leechs
>>94842226I'm surprised just how common scans of gw models are becoming on the web.Someone must've invested fuckton of money in a dental scanner for that
>>94843132https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/58129306/#58133314People talking about it in /aosg/ 7 years ago
>>94842226>Kurnoth and bug scansCan I get some please?
Anybody got Ravaged Coast?
>>94842766We need to go back...
>>94843370SOVL
>BoK likely getting a Q1 releaseBrütal
>>94843370When they will give Tzeentch a bone? The Birds were a bad joke, some laughed but is already many years and don't fool me trying to say they don't have ideas for the faction,
>>94843389What you expect in such release? Because my bet is a pity hero and call it a day.
>>94842921Where's the head from?
>>94843403nta, but khul and maybe a valkia if we are very lucky.
>>94843389There's 0 chance they'll releas 7 tomes in Q1
>>94843168In Skaventide they have giant raven allies who are minions of Morrda
>>94843389More like Q3, bro.
>>94842739buy him now if you're going to.
>>94842885>Vampire Counts back to TOWNo. They're not. Vampire Counts do not exist at the time TOW set. If you're going to claim what they're going to do, do it right. Any faction they'd bring back would be Undead unless they want to move the setting forward or ignore established stuff. Also, wow, waiting 10 years minimum for GW to do that.
>>94843051>fantasy doesn't have black people
>>94843578You really think that isn't anything but an excuse they can alter at any time? It's not even correct.They're removing all old models and then the old ones are freed up for TOW once more.
>>94843588>It's not even correctYes it is. Before VC, this was the faction book. Vampire Counts come later when GW changed the Empire states' boundaries and shit. Just like Nuln is an independent state in TOW and not part of the Empire.Lots of models have been 'freed up' to go into TOW and aren't in TOW. If GW suddenly decides to readd The Undead then it's going to be a long ass time away because they've still got>HE>WE>Beastmen>Cathayto do
>>94843609>CathaySorry China is banned now.
>>94843615It's literally in the god damn timeline schedule for TOW.
>>94843618you're wrong THO
>>94843623
Is TOW really that popular to eat so much of our factions?
>>94843632It's more like an ouroboros
>>94843632it's not that TOW is eating armies off of AoS, it's that AoS is shedding its old stuff
>>94843647which it nicked from WFB
quick poll: ruination chamber or sacrosant chamber?
>>94843668AoS peaked with 2.0 and sacrosanct v nighthaunt.
>>94843668Ruination is just warrior, which is better than sacro, but the double name is pointless
>>94843668all fatcasts deserve a very resistant rope
>>94843668Sacro all the way, i hate what they did with that range and i'm not even an SCE fan.,,
>>94843668no one care, real question is Gloomspite or Gitmob?
>>94843693Troggherd
>>94843693What shit question... Any real GOBLINO enjoyer will choose the real factions Gloomspite gitz.
>>94843693moon > sunfanatics < doom diverssquigs > wolvesno chariots < chariotstrolls > no trollsold infantry units < no infantry unitslots of cool heroes > three cool heroesspiders tagalons < cohesive theme
>>94843693gitmob are gloomspite gits too, since they are gits and revel in bringing gloom by eating the hated sunthe duality is between gitmob and moonclan
>>94843693why don't make them their own battletome, considering there is a lot of room for fast and sin lover goblins, is beyond me. And goblins are charismatic and popular they are not risking that much...
>>94843773Because GW decided we're at the cap of avalible factions.
>>94843773There's 24 battletomes already for AoS, (including Chorfs replacing BoC) that's an average of 8 battletomes a year every three years just to continue the edition cycle. They probably really don't want to add too many more supported armybooks atm, especially not just to breakaway a small subfaction.
>>94843784We are at the cap and they are adding chorfs soon? A biggest gamble than goblinos that already proved their worth with GSG? After also killing BoC and savage orcs?
>>94843773I believe they're afraid the range might be too limited in its gameplay capabilities, so by attaching it to the other goblins they get to soften the blow should their rules not be too much to the task, and that they think and hope goblin collectors, regardless of which subfaction they start from, would be prone to also buying the other goblins and by linking the tomes you influence them further to do so.but then it begs the question of why, say, giants aren't bundled with ogres, or all goblins and all orcs together, or the two dwarfs armies together, or the elves together and so on.maybe they just cut corners on writing enough stuff and making enough art for a separate tome, or sales numbers in hands they think keeping the goblins separate doesn't make enough money compared to those other armies.
>>94843800>>94843784there's very little difference between having to work on 12 huge tomes or 36 small ones.hell, they might even make all the tomes about very small microfactions and then sell them only as bundles.
>>94843817well that's sad then i thought they could add something else for destruction, the GA is a little lackluster but shit happens
>>94843817Notice they decided to remove Beastmen in order o add Chorfs
>>94843817>>94843852>the two armies of backwards tribal savages genocided to make room for the industrialist slavers who rape the landwhat did james mean by this
>>94843773Gitmob being in their own book would create another tiny army that desperately needs a big expansion. By staying in the Gitz tome they have access to cheap infantry and big monsters
It's weird to me that Gloomspite Gitz still don't have any swarm models besides the Scuttletide spell. Either snotling mobs or squiggly beast swarms would work well.
>>94843905If they were going to expand Gitmob, I'd like to see them get a Snotling Pump Wagon, Snotling Swarms, and some kind of Snotling herder character.
>>94843773Because there are about half a dozen (if not more) tiny factions already. Plus legacy ones that need updating (or removing). That's ignoring the fact some factions (like DoK) are mini weak but warscroll strong. Simply because things like the Blood Cauldron is like 5 different warscrolls but one mini. So on the face of it, DoK has a lot of options... In reality their model range is tiny. That's ignoring new factions with absolutely anaemic model ranges (Fyreslayers - even more so if you remove heroes - IDK, OBR, KO, DoT, MoN - even more so if you remove heroes - Ogres)
>>94843905>>94843912I'm waiting for the drug centipede since the begining of time.
>>94843925this, just this.we have so many ranges, ranges that need fucking stuff asap that the idea of new factions or even expand some of the minifactions is absolute madness.we are talking about dot, ogres, dok, fyreslayers or even new factions like obr or deepkin that literally are on the bare bones because the rythm of releases is very small.
>>94843929You will get a grot on a wolf instead.
>>94843905gw never managed to make swarm models sell well, most probably caused by the fact they never treated them as charismatic sculpts like familiars, and never gave them good rules.I think only in 8th ed of fantasy they had halfway of a good idea with them by making them token for buffs, for example lizardmen jungle swarms gave every other lizardmen unit that were fighting the same enemy unit they were also in base contact with poisoned attacks, representing how the swarm would move mixed with the other friendly unit and used any and all oversight in the enemy's guard when caught in combat with your troops.nowhere near game breaking or completely useless.
>>94843939I'm not against Speedo-Sun goblins. I'm against them sharing the spot with my MoonChads. Goblins only have one King and that's Skraggrot the Loonking follower of the Bad Moon.
>>94843958That was before. Now the Loonking is joined by the Grand Snarlboss, chosen of Jaggedsnarl.
>>94843912Snotlings are already here so we are close. And if they want to expand Gitmob should be easy now
>>94843978I find your lack of style disturbing brother.
>>94843978These wolves look way too badass to get gobbroken
>>94844008skragrott isn't even the best looking grot in the moonclans
>>94844032in that specific miniature's case, the wolf is actually the one in charge
>>94844008>>94844045If they made him today he'd probably be on a gigantic mushroom centipede dragon or somethingAmazing just how quaint that model is
>>94844050Does the gobbo feel in charge?
>>94843905GE doesn't do Swarms anymore
>>94844052Considering how cavalry heavy the army is it might be kind of appropriate that the big boss should be riding something.
>>94844052even when he was made everyone else of importance was on a giant monstrous steed.he was just drawn differently, maybe he wasn't meant to be THAT important, and arguably he isn't.
>>94843829>It's just as easy to print 3x as many tomes and fit them in the release schedule because they're thinner. >3x as many pity heroes every edition, 3x the terrain and endless spells, etc etcYou're actually mad coping right now, I don't know what to tell you.
>>94844065Both Necrons and Tyranids kept theirs when they got revamped (although Skaven and SBGL didn't, mind)
so does this mean deathrattle are no longer just the bottom bitches of the vampires or is all this just a fancy way of saying they updated the skellies?
>>94844065Don’t we get them via Warcry
>>94844121Both warcry warbands with swarms got squatted (unless I'm forgetting something)
>>94844113Mostly it just means all the boners have a cohesive design now. In terms of new warscrolls they've gained what, a generic hero variant? Not much of a gameplay change, but a little more prominent in the lore going forward on account of being real models instead of leftovers.
>>94844133>In terms of new warscrolls they've gained what, a generic hero variant?They're just calling it a wight king on steed so it's the same thing with a new weapon option
>>94844101>>It's just as easy to print 3x as many tomes and fit them in the release schedule because they're thinner.yes, it's the same amount of pages to write, units to test (ah!) and volumes of paper to print and shipnot every tome getting a release needs a pity hero and a set of spells and scenery just how not every subfaction is getting them right now>but think of the cost of hardback covers!
>>94844111they had their swarms integrated into some other unit's sprue
>>94843829>there's very little difference between having to work on 12 huge tomes or 36 small ones.OK man, you have clearly never worked in printing or distribution or anything like that. Two 50 page books is way more work than one 100 page book
>>94844137Oh wait I was wrong, I thought this was just an alt build but it's a Lord instead of king
>>94843978>>94843982Spiderfang is fucking dying over this.
>>94844153>Two 50 page books is way more work than one 100 page booknot when the 100 page book is literally just the two 50 pages books stapled together in any case
>>94844156how does that sword fit in the scabbard?
>>94844207It shrinks
>>94844207
>>94844236Is this cuck still making videos?
>>94844240Yeah I think but I didn't ever watch him in the first place, very dry narration that could have been an article or a paper
>>94844200Yes it is! Dude I literally work in printing, I can promise you that two 50 page books is way more work than one 100 page book. There is stuff that has to be done for every piece you print, regardless of the length. You're creating two separate projects, both of which have to go through the same steps.
>>94844236I was more worried about the larger end of the blade and the thin neck of the scabbardbut genuinely, how does it go in that case? is it conveniently just so slightly larger for the wiggle room needed or there's a lateral slit helping the thing or it's just a trick of the eye that it wouldn't be able to go in?
>>94844260Lateral slit and clips to tighten
Why are chorfs so based?
>>94844279neat
>>94843982Are all of those chariots a single kit or are there 2 different chariots kits?Like can I build this boss man chariots with the ones that come in the army box? Or is there like a smaller chariots and then a separate boss chariots kit?
>>94844390>Or is there like a smaller chariots and then a separate boss chariots kit?it's this
>>94843668Reclusians have better detail and armor proportions than sacrosanct, and all the chains and chainmail and their priestly attendendants give them a much cooler vibeBut sacrosanct as a chamber had better themes, better unit archetypes, and if I could I would have loved to see the sacrosanct chamber updated with the reclusians level of detail and grit instead of getting the ruination chamber which is basically a 2 unit flop that gets worse the more of it you field
>>94844068Like riding another goblin? I always thought it was weird how tall skragrott was.
>>94844418Is he the boss because he's tall or is he tall because he's the boss?
>>948443902 different kits. There's the regular chariot and the chariot that can be built as a boss or a shaman. The main giveaway is that the regular chariot is made of wicker and the boss chariot is made of hard wood.
>>94843403Khul daemon prince.
…does GW consider idoneth a death faction?
>>94844450Even i consider like them like that.
>>94844450That'd totally fix them in my eyes
>>94843403khul, new blood warriors, new blood reavers, new bloodcrushers, new lord on juggernautall stuff they want to get rid ofalthough the bloodreavers might simply get replaced wholesale by the hounds of karanak in their role and the need for skullcrushers might not actually exist given the existence of bloodcrushersin any case, one way or another, these 3 units will go, khorne will get a lord on juggernaut and khul
>>94844450no, they're an alt-elf factionwhich is why they're not getting releases: it's because sylvaneth are
>>94844450More like they consider them a dead faction, seeing how much attention they've been getting.
>>94844450>lumineth: good elves>sylvaneth: neutral leaning good elves>idoneth: neutral leaning bad elves>ulgurothi: bad elves
>>94844087He's exceptional for a Grot, which previously kept the scale consistent for everything so bosses and shamans blended in with hordes. It's kind of the whole point of Night Goblins.
>>94844426The tallest is always the boss. I don't make the rules, the Irkens do.
>>94844240all those faux-historian youtubers are so embarrassing
>>94844545>previouslythat's the keyword here, fantasy norms don't matter anymoremoonclan heroes are all larger than normal moonclan grots now
>>94844450more like dead faction, am i right?
>>94844568he's a head taller than the Loonboss
>>94844479>inb4 it's just the lord of juggernaut and a bunch of products getting removed, with khul coming as a release only in the end-of-edition campaign books series.
>>94844512>Bad Elves>Contributed more to Sigmar's civilization and age of reclamation than all of Sigmar's "good" allies.>Never threw tantrums or even ask for any form of payment/favor in returnUngrateful much?
>>94844512>daughters of khaine not mentioned
>>94844568Often reading this general and other forums about AoS it feels like there is nothing more important fantasy norms.You would think those people would just switch to old world already by now.No i do not care that back then every Greenskin faction was souped in. It is shit when your faction gets another subfaction nobody asked for. This update should have been for spiders, getting rid of the weird indian vibes and bring them more in line with the usual nightgoblins.Wolves are just kinda lame for such a high fantasy setting as AoS
>>94844469They reap souls and can reanimated their dead, it would honestly make more sense for them to be death than order.But I get the feeling death and destruction are unfortunately permanently beholden to all of their armies being derived from nagash and gorkamorka respectively
Will the soulblight army box sell out or will it end up like the fec army box?
>>94844479Man the khorne mortals are such a cool aesthetic, I really wish that army wasn't perpetually steered in the direction of spamming 5 bloodthirsters. They've got this whole beautiful range and for whatever reason gw just wants people to spam the 1 kit
>>94844512>Emberneth not mentioned
>>94844609dok are ulgurothi, it's an umbrella term for all elven factions that originally come from ulgu or have ulgu as their main home
>>94844637If any box will sell out its soulblight. They're the second most popular army in the game behind skaven. Third I think was seraphon with std and gitz not far behind
>>94844607why is the lizardmen the happy merchant in this scenario?
>>94844625See, I disagree, but I'm aware that all goblin fans are cock-gobblers so I don't care.
>>94844637I can't remember the last army box that sold out quickly, GW is pretty good lately about making sure to print a billion copies so everyone has a shot of getting one.
>>94844563Um we call them the Community of the Sword here.
>>94844625Nah the wolfriders are cool and I'm glad the age of microfactions where every idea needs to be it's own walled garden is over, that's how we ended up with fyreslayers, idoneth, dok, and kharadron languishing without expansions for multiple editions. I still don't think ko have gotten more than a pity hero in almost 10 years. Hell, even with all the new wolf stuff gitz still have fewer kits than soulblight or skavenFuck microfactions. Also fuck those dumb 4 legged spider infantry. Stupidest models gw ever made
>>94844661Aos also doesn't have as bad of a scalping problem as 40k ever since dominion burned a bunch of em with stock that won't move
>>94844652because the lizardmen kill chaos cultists (and perhaps even just people who they predict will become chaos cultists) and then shift the blame towards the khainites when questioned
>>94844716I'll take microfactions with their own lore and tome over microfactions but it's flavorless soup
>>94844743This has only ever been an issue with war clans.
>>94844743You're welcome to go back to 1st edition anytime. Don't let the door hit you and the clan pestilens and bonesplitterz battletomes on the way out
>>94844758I must remain ever vigilant as a dwarf fan.
>>94844743Is this fatwoah? Keeps arguing for beastclaw and gutbusters to be split, even though beastclaw are just the ogre kingdoms cavalry units from 8th, and wants an entire army to be spamming 7 of the same monopose kitI spit, SPIT on all microfaction separatists
>>94844716>fyreslayers, idoneth, dok, and kharadron languishingThis is just GW being retarded, instead of remaking SCE 3 times they could have shared around some love to those. This is not a minus towards micro factions, this is just GW mishandling their resources.
>>94844779Not him but it's not that weird that a guy who used to post here has an opinion that's common ITT innit?I spit in your soup, give me Darkling Covens already.
>>94842921Very cool. Big fat moldline in the centre thou, post some updatas. >>94843446Blightking sprue, horns are shaven.
>>94844790Sce hasn't gotten in the way of them making nighthaunt or obr with 3x the units of anyone those other armies, or doubling the size of the std, gitz, or soulblight rosters, or giving cities an entire range refresh. Hell even sylvaneth and fec got their ranges doubled Dok has gotten...1 new unit? And some pity heroes. Ko has gotten a SINGLE pity hero and an underworlds team in 4!!! Editions. Idk has gotten 1 or 2 pity heroes, I dont remember who came out when but they're in the same boat (heh) as KO, not a single new unit
>>94844828Correction, KO got 2 pity heroes. Forgot about the terrible book man no one has ever bought
>>94844716>Also fuck those dumb 4 legged spider infantryYou mean the Silver tower npcs?
>>94844716>Fuck microfactions.agreed, all dwarfs should be one book, all elves should be one book, all of destruction should be one book, all of death should be one book, all of chaos (except skaven) should be one book, and cities and stormcasts should be one bookand then the two leftovers of seraphon and skaven get thrown into one book framed as a factionVSfaction campaign book, rather than a soup>the forces of sigmar >the great duardazhal >the glittering hosts >the rat and the serpent>the beast waaagh>the legions of nagash>the hordes of chaos
>>94844652>Lizards use their future telling powers to Minority Report future Chaos Lords before they do anything (or even are born)>Seraphon ambasies in Cities are a cover for this type of operation>Skink assassins keep their activity secret by various means, commone one is dumpng bodies in a way that makes Khaine cults look responsible
microfactions is how you end up with space marines
>>94844803It's not. Must be 3d printed or a 40k thing
>>94844450Kinda.They're vampires if you think about it
>>94844625I don't get the appeal of this model at allUgly freak who ruins the gobbapalooza kit and looks worse than the scuttlings that came before him
I'm curious about anvil of apotheosis, are there any scan or maybe a kind anon take pictures of those pages in the orrukwarclan book?Waha pedia seems pretty bare bones for AoS and isn't including that kind of stuff.
Where the fuck is soul bound
>>94844625I love goblins i'm with you brother, this update should have been for Spiders, turn them into truly Moonclan addition or what the heck at least something that fit the whole aesthetic of Gloomspite Gitz. Gitmob is literally a new faction slapped into the book of Moonbros. And i'm writing this as someone who likes the idea of another gobbo faction, goblins that chase the sun, use warmachines and live outside caves and like speed is cool, sign me in, but cramble then into the same book? Is just the same as with Ironjawz and Kruleboyz,weirdly only happens in Destruction and is sad.
>>94844992dead 40k RPG and WFRP are more successful and popular than Soulbound
>>94844779Soupfaggots were and keep being the cancer of this game since 1rst edition. And sadly is a trend growing after James had the balls to make Ghosts and Ghouls their own army. You will never be right about your idea.
>>94845034>WFRPWhat? Seriously?
>>94844625If you like Goblins, you like little green dudes not man sized green dudes. There's exceptions to be made but overall there shouldn't be some abstract difference in size between heroes and generic Grots imo. If anything the scale difference is a WHF norm with snotlings, orcs, bigguns, etc and fluff about getting larger I wish Moonclan was different but it's more of the same both in respect to AoS/40k design sensibilities and WHF aesthetics
>>94844800Emberneth are unironically more likely than Darkling Covens.
>>94845055yeah it has the pedigree which Soulbound doesn't have
>>94845055WHFRP was established prior and piggybacks off WHF games. Their TOW spin-off will flop just like Soulbound
>>94844877>all of destruction should be one bookGW seem to agree
>>94844828IDK has gotten 1 pity hero and 2 blunderworlds warbands.
>>94844877
>>94845072WanG is decently popular despite being kinda shit so I could see the TOW RPG doing well enough especially if it is meant to be easier to get into which WFRP isn't to modern players
>>94845071>>94845072At this point is almost certain any AoS related mass-media product will fail, i don't know why but seems something stablished.
I like dark elves, but cannot decide which of the elves are the darkest and like them all - they hydras in the cities of Sigmar, the snakes of Daughters of Khaine and the sharks and giant turtles of Idoneth are all awesome. How different are the armies and which one would be good for beginner (I guess I would like to start with the start collecting/vanguard/spearhead box). I also like the regular wood elves, but only without the bug raiders.
>>94845115Uh huh.
>>94845122As far as the game is concerned, daughters of Khaine are the only real dark elves and it's going to stay this way for a while.
>>94844450>>94844512GW has created several elf factions.>Malerion Elves: Evil>DoK: Neutral-EvilThey are generally helpful in the fight against the actual bad guys, but have their own plans and do stuff which is generally bad in the eyes of everybody else.>Sylvaneth: NeutralThey are truly neutral. They do what is best for Alarielle and nature. They may do good things or bad things. They don't pick sides unless it helps their goals. Will easily turn on allies if they do something bad in their eyes.>IDK: Neutral-GoodThey are forced to do bad things for the sake of survival but generally try to limit the damage they do. They help others even though it may not be fully in their interest, but they still rather IDK centric in their goals.>LRL: GoodThey do good stuff, fight against the bad ones. They will help simply because it is the right thing to do rather than any personal gain. The bad stuff they do is generally 'for their benefit' (such as destroying settlements with giant anti-Chaos brands).
>>94845115one game bombed, the rest met expectations iirc
>>94844607Oh hey that's the art I requested years ago. I loved it.
>>94840420>just run superheavy centerpiecesI bet you're popular.
>>94844607I wish AoS kept the landsknect look
>>94840391>Have you ever built, or at least seriously considered building, an army that's entirely a subfaction of a larger army? Troggherd, Dispossessed, Nothin' but skellies, Skinks on Parade, etcWhen I saw all the new "not hobgoblin" models they released I was thinking it would be cool if I won the lottery I would totally buy like 1000 dollars of that shit. But not really otherwise.
>>94845179>IDK: Neutral-Good
>>94845247>all the new "not hobgoblin"? You mean a single unit of hobgrots?
>>94845251They are, as explained.
>>94844877>order 256 products 50 are small heroes 53 are bundles, accessories and spells/scenery 28 are alternative build options 33 are shit that's getting squatted (fatcasts and dark elves)>92 total other products of which 37 are elves, 14 are seraphon>death 115 products34 are small heroes 21 are bundles, accessories and spells/scenery 22 are alternative build options >38 total other products >chaos 218 products58 are small heroes 50 are bundles, accessories and spells/scenery 27 are alternative build options >83 total other products of which 21 are skaven and 18 undivided>destro 111 products20 are small heroes23 are bundles, accessories and spells/scenery 24 are alternative build options >44 total other products this is rough and not precise to a T, some units don't get shown in the webstore, while others occasionally appear multiple times, like shadowstalkers in chaos, and I might have committed errorsbut as a general indication it stands perfectly: for an optimal and equal subdivision of factions there should be 6 big books: one for order, one for elves+lizards, one for destruction, one for death, one for the 4 chaos gods, and one for the other chaos stuff
He will slap any wolffag any day of the week.
>>94845259cite some good they've done
>>94845276him and what arms?
>>94844607>>94845179Edgy elves will NEVER be considered good, useful or neutral, regardless of how much gw wants to pretend they can be allies just because they aren't nominally chaos or nominally death
>>94845179Make no mistake: Idoneth Deepkings are very, very evil. They are actually much more evil than Daughters of Khaine. Those kill evil cultists 90% of the time, and may only turn on their allies if there's no cultists to sacrifice (in the world of AoS; impossible). Idoneth kidnap and kill people every day. People are like food to them. They need to sacrifice innocent people every time a baby is born, or else their working class is going to go extinct. They don't discriminate who they sacrifice because cultists souls are tainted. They may cooperate with the good guys against chaos, but that's only because chaos spreads the taint of souls and deprives them of food! It's a wolf coming to sheep and saying "I'll help you fight off the bear, but only because I need to eat you myself".And some enclaves rightly call this setup hypocritical and remain fully hostile to Sigmar.
>>94845258Are you really going to be pedantic over whether Snarlfang riders are meant to ape hobgoblin stylings? This is why this thread sucks you know.
>>94845115The books are popular. It's only the videogames that fail every time.
>>94845302>They are actually much more evil than Daughters of Khaineyeah, idoneth sacrifice people out of need, khainites do it out of funkhainites are evidently the good gals here, lets ignore their warcrimes against order
>>94845179>>94845302>>94845298Dark Eldar are actually the good guys of 40k too.
>>94845305They have nothing in commond with hobgoblins? Wolf riders were normal green gobbos even in fantasy
>>94845312Khainites sacrifice EVIL people out of religious obligation, they never do anything for fun and are generally no fun allowed nuns.>their warcrimes against ordThe whole single one of them
>>94845313Actually they are. Actually they commit fewer atrocities than the Imperium, and for a better reason.
>>94845313What makes them good? I heard a lot of good things about the combat patrol (and I like it has two vehicles, compared to... none, in the new patrols), but I don't like bad guy xenos like GSC or Orks.
>>94845322>Khainites sacrifice EVIL people out of religious obligationlies and propaganda they kill whoever they fancy or morathi orders them, they have continuous gladiatorial games and their cauldrons are full of blood even without a war nearby>The whole single one of themand who knows how many more, and the undermining of slaanesh's chains on multiple separate occasions
Morathi will save the Mortal Realms.Trust the plan.
Releasing Khul as a part of the campaign for 4th edition ending - make no sence.I think we will see: world eaters in the beginning of may. And BoK in june.Theres no point in updating blood warriors or reavers. They are good models.There are rumours about "khornegors", or minotaurs as part of BoK.But what about... Blood beasts.Elite of elite. Ratogre size. Fast. Come in a box of 3 models. Also comes as a replacement of Scyla. Also squating khorgorath. Bye bye little one, you will never see multipart kit that was made for you back in 1st edition.Also Khul, as a centerpiece, Angron size, centaurlike model: part man, part bloodhound, wings, scorpion tail, two axes.Also maybe either updating or kicking out juggerlord. But with updating juggerlord they'll need to update skullcrushers, cause they will look bad compared to new model.So its like 3 to 4 models, at best, with new book.
>>94845278Helped Dawnbringer Crusade survive against the orcs and khorne. Helped the SCE, formed an alliance.
>>94845350There's really no need for them to kill normal people. There's so many cultists around that the daughters are killing them 24/7, and the cultist numbers are only growing.>they have continuous gladiatorial gamesThey fight each other there...
>>94845365They just want to spy on the SCE to steal the secret of reforging.
>>94845276this guy, he does almost as much damage as a full on mangler squig now, although i feel that says more about the mangler than it does about him
>>94845298The issue is GW fumble the issue to chase WHFB fans. Malerion was Sigmar's greatest ally aside from Grungni and Morathi with her covens was a force for good before they shifted back to "they're just Delfs again" They're clearly presenting Krethusa as an opponent to a new antagonistic DoK but I doubt they'll address it much. IDK are both evil and opposed to the aims of order. They don't cooperate and if anything appear in lit to fuck over everyone else >Oppose Morathi in BR before shifting to support as she becomes a genocidal god >Oppose OBR reclaiming Shyish>Appear as villains yet again in Dawnbringers b-b-but Neave's super hero team has one... They launched IDK with "we can ignore the warcrimes because we didn't know they existed then". What a reach
>>94845391>There's really no need for them to kill normal people.but they do >There's so many cultists around that the daughters are killing them 24/7, and the cultist numbers are only growing.how convenient that everyone they kill is always a cultist and that the growth of cultists correlates with the increase in sacrifices btw, idoneth too can feed their people with souls sourced from far more ethical game like orcs and ogres, which are abundant and easy prey to their ambushes
>>94845421>before they shifted back tothere has been no shift, they have always been just Delfs again from the start
>>94845358>Any kind of "Blood Beast"God no... I rather have some sort of new Khorne Monster ala Korgorath but better, i liked Scyla as special hero but a unit of beast just like DoT is a no thanks.Also i wonder how will they make Khul, will be another generic Bloodthirster like demon? Because i would like to see something more unique.
>>94845421>They don't cooperateBut they do. Read some god damn fluff. The even held an emergency meeting when Chaos discovered their cities via Skaven shit to go and ally with Sigmar. That's fucking ancient lore. They've regularly helped humans and other elves deal with issues and threats.
>>94845439List some
>>94845421IDK are literally just WHFB Sea Elves repurposed. Not that I expect zoomies of /tg/ to know anything other than what they got from playing TWWH or what they skim read online.
>>94845426Idoneth can't do that because greenskins are not nautical people.
>>94845275I would rather share a book with skaven before I share it with filthy a*lves.
>>94845460If only the idoneth had fish that could fly over the land...
>>94845471Not for very long. Please read their lore, this is getting embarrassing.
Gargant or nurgling RoR for my Ironjawz?
>>94845358Not every army needs a three-model squad of kind-of-big guys
>>94845484>Not for very long.very convenient for ogres or orcs to never wander anywhere close to waterit's not like we didn't have an actual short story from the point of view of idoneth where they were hunting down orcs for this very reason
Anyone got IDK related books? I have Soulslayer and Children of Teclis but they're antagonists in both
I always found it weird how ossiarch feel less "skeletony" than soulblight, especially now with the new skelemen.
>>94845541
>>94845549it's the nosesfuck whoever thought they were a good idea for the common soldierand fuck whoever thought the common ossiarch soldier had to be human sized and not chaos warrior/chosen sized
>>94845549Because they aren't skeletons and were never supposed to be?They're people made of bone. They have muscle definition, noses, something that resembes heir.It's Nagash re-inventing humans, in a stronger form he fully controls.
>>94845555>and fuck whoever thought the common ossiarch soldier had to be human sized and not chaos warrior/chosen sizedYes, making something with that profile chosen sized would totally make sense, and isn't just you insecurities flaring up because your toys aren't as big as Timmy's.
>>94845549They're golems, not skeletons.
>>94845487Is your ironjaw army fully oainted to look physicslly ill?If no, go gargant
>>94845576They are really pale green and based in Ghyran so I don't think it's out of the question
>>94845569>Yes, making something with that profile chosen sized would totally make senseYou're supposed to make the profile match the sculpt, not the other way around you smoothbrained rot feeder
>>94845606The idea is giving you an actual legion to command around. That's why you get a huge phalanx of 20 small guys as your basic unit instead of 5 big guys, to sell the feeling they're ment to invoke in you.For big guys you have 2 larger infantry units
>>94845551> doesn't want IDK as antagonists> gives him SoulslayerThanks for sharing but also lol
>>94845629for someone wanting to play legions of shitty skeletons there's soulblight, ossiarchs are for elite skeletons, if ossiarchs wanted lots of fodder for the bone grinder their basic soldier would be a form of normal skeleton not a custom crafted and highly tailored construct with multiple pieces of the best soldiers for a soulin artworks they are meant to stand as equals to warriors
>>94845555>and not chaos warrior/chosen sizedSOON™
>>94845606Someone's got chaos envy. Oh well, just take some chosen, swap their heads for skulls, and play gonor... StD.>>94845680I think it's the same guy posting both. "I have Soulslayer and Children of Teclis"
>>94845725SOON™
>>94845707Soulblight is for mindless shambling horde. OBR is for an organised force that actually takes orders
>>94845730SOON™
>>94845725How can some people compare skellies with Ossiarch Bonereapers?
>>94845735SOON™
>>94845555>and fuck whoever thought the common ossiarch soldier had to be human sized and not chaos warrior/chosen sizedJames listened to you for this edition Anon, you can now use the stalkers as a shitty frontline soldiers, and they're only slightly weaker than mortek guards
>>94845735>Random anons are faster to complete OBR army roster than GWGodspeed anon. Hopefully James give you the stuff you deserve but i see you can do it for yourself if not lmao.
>>94845755Well, at the most surface level they're dudes made of bone, so easily associated with skeletons. If you then look even a smidge deeper you will of course notice they aren’t just skeletons, but with enough autism that first though is already locked in, never to move.
>>94845732then why are the shambling hordes taller than the organised force? dwarf bones?
OBR need more constructs
>>94845806I love the AoS skeletons so much... but I don't play SBGL so my opinion means nothing
>>94845806Dwarfs are obviously a superior life form, and nagash is well aware of it, even if he wont admit it
>>94845806Stop being a faggot alread. You do the same song and dance every time and you only make yourself look more autistic
>>94845806OBR have noses so they can smell unlike skeletons
>>94845541>mega evil elves are antagonists quelle surprise
>>94844607This.DoK are obviously one of the greatest of Order factions and pretty much singlehandedly keeping civilization exisiting
>>94845877apparently they're neutral-good
>>94845806Because they're short like Romans
>>94845815OBR need more constructsKharadron need more shipsDoK need more monster girlsIdoneth need more sea creaturesFyreslayers need more dwarfs....Etc. etc.
>>94845887Fyreslayer nerd more Droths not Dorfs
>>94845887DoT need more Tzaangors
>>94845890They need more dorfs nearly indistinguishable form the rest because it makes you seethe.
>>94845908I love fyreslayers tbf
>>94845907Precisely what they don't need are more fucking birds.
>>94845907Yeah they need tzaangor elite infantry and a melee tzaangor hero
>>94845996I rather have weird demons than chickens.Ideally they should add good mortals already.
>>94845857>every timehow many times have you failed to even admit there's a problem with the skeletons in aos?
Is there a good way to shorten fyreslayers, seraphon or sylvaneth for an easy to write name. OBR, IDK, SCE, DoK, MoN, BoK, DoT... All easy.
>>94846041FY, SR, SY
>>94846048Personally thought FS for fyreslayers. Syl maybe for sylvaneth.... Sera for Seraphon I guess. Thanks.
>>94846061whatever acronym works, the important thing is that the acronym isn't the same as another's
>>94846041TREES
>>94845357<You
Another week, still no Gitmob :(
>>94846371next week anon
>>94845357she needs to eat more gods, especially Kragnos.
>>94846446I would pay actual money to buy a model of Morathi over the corpse of Kragnos.What a failure of a concept.
>>94846371Oh no!Anyway
>>94846651>Win with Morathi That man is based.
>>94840391Not for AoS. At one point I was heavily considering an all wraith unit Eldar army for 40k, but I couldn't bring myself to put that much time and money into a project for a game I find so bad.
>>94846753As an Iyanden fan I get your pain
>>94846753>12ft tall mechs trying to sneak anywhereYou need to be under 10ft t b h.
>>94846753I don't remember Eldar on Virmire
Hello /aosg/ I need your help. My friend just gave me all his Warhammer stuff and I wanted to start playing but I don't know how to build an army. He gave me a box of Vigilors, a box of Vindicators, a Yndrasta, and two Skaventide boxes of Stormcast Eternals. Meaning:1 Lord-Vigilant on Gryph-stalker2 Lord-Terminos and Memorian squire1 Lord Veritant and Gryph Crow2 Knight-Questor○ 6 Reclusians with 4 Memorians○ 20 Liberators○ 6 ProsecutorsWhere do I start building an army from this?
>>94846858Make some 1k lists and play for a bit, see what you like. AOS is fun if you dont spam units
I love her so much it's unreal
>>94847456do you have the models?
>>94847456Pegging queen
>>94845421Nagash was amazing until he threw an autistic fit, and honestly Gork'n'Mork were exceptionally solid too until he decided to go out for some milk.But yeah sad it's just Grungi and Malerion at this point.
>>94847754Friendly reminder Sigmar should have 0 "allies" just a bunch of useful servants, why you ask? Because 90% of the races and gods in Order are retarded and 100% in the other Allegiances.
>ogres not even on the roadmapThink they're getting Oldworlded?
>>94847810Yup. Same with all the old FEC models.
>>94847810nah, they're getting an update to their infantry units next year or at the end of the edition most likely.
>>94845421>Malerion was Sigmar's greatest allyThis gets posted often enough that I'm starting to think some people actually believe it.
>>94847781Did they do anything meaningful narratively with "Sigmar lied"?
>>94847930remember when 2nd edition launched with sigmar saying >even a god may regret what he's doneit doesn't matter
>>94847810Bro half the armies in the game aren't on that roadmap. It just means nothing is happening with them this year.
>>94840645did you just find out about warhammer yesterday or what?
>>94847930Sigmar as much as he fucks up things, also is the main character so... No "Sigmar lied" had no impact.
>>94847530Only the AoS ones. I did have the OG in Fantasy but sold all my stuff when I fell out of the hobby sadly.>>94847622Exactly. TFW GF is conservative and won't peg meThere's so many Morathi enjoyers there should be a Morathi general thread
>>94840391>Have you ever built, or at least seriously considered building, an army that's entirely a subfaction of a larger army? Troggherd, Dispossessed, Nothin' but skellies, Skinks on Parade, etcNah, I don't have want for that.
Got in a 1k game today with my cities, the folks at the local shop are really starting to warm up to AoS, which is really hype. I'm gonna start up a spearhead league next month!
>>94848481What did you run at 1k? The starter box, or something you cooked up from old models, or abit of both?
>>94848531Starter box and the spearhead box, it comes out to basically exactly 1k. It was very okay.
>>94848597How'd you build your foot marshal, got pics?
CHOO CHOO NEW THREAD>>94849010>>94849010>>94849010ALL ABOARD
