The one and only vampire on zombie dragon now Edition >Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>94827926>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolswarhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/>Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php>Thread Questionwe still got bets open for what the sbgl spells and scenery are like and what else they will lose
>>94834872>Thread Questionbig bat made of bloodbig skull made of bloodscuttle tide but with skeletons climbing out of the ground instead of spiders
I really wanna see the sprues for everything. Especially the horses. >TQThey can take the corpse cart, turn it into a terrain piece instead. As for endless spells I don’t know give me some vampires tits.
>TQI'm betting on a bat swarm endless spell
>>94834888>They can take the corpse cart, turn it into a terrain piece instead.I was wondering about thatbut them again they have the VERY convenient bit of fluff about vhordrai's crimson keep appearing out of nowhere in all sorts of places, as well as where nagash didn't plan it forand a properly gothic castle or at least one spire of it would make for a good piece of scenery for vampireshopefully it's like the warclans/seraphon piece of terrain with a somewhat customisable look to represent whether it's about dry undead or wet undead
Are Castelay vampires just rejects from other factions?Legions of Blood/Night have mortarch origin and Vyrkos comes form the grave hound, but i don't think Vhordrai's lads have any unique origin.Unless a magic brick from the keep bit them
>>94834872>>Thread Question>we still got bets open for what the sbgl spells and scenery are like and what else they will loseI'm more interested in idoneth spells and nighthaunt scenery
>>94834908Pretty much nomads, they aren’t really what I would call rejects as long as they managed to get back to the not! castlevsnia tower in time.
>>94834910Idoneth spells could be literally anything. They have a whole ocean of possibilities to choose from. I've seen ton of predictions here from everything from whirlpools to fish shoals to giant summoned kraken tentacles
>>94834908>The Blood Dragon is a soulblight vampire, he is said to be the finest warrior Shyish has ever seen. >He dwells atop a mountain and does not welcome company, although Queen Neferata coaxed him down to school Adhema and many other daughters of lands invaded by Chaos in the arts of war.>Given his description it seems likely that this is Abhorash reborn into the Age of Sigmar.good chance that he's the ultimate source of their martial philosophy, if not their bloodline, which might simply be any vampire that manages to break off from their most immediate instincts and court
>>94834872the dragon has a nasty belly
>>94834950This looks like such a good model to paint.
>>94834872I love the model is everything i could want for a zombie dragon but... I will miss this bad boy.
>>94834959then grab one
So FeC are going to lose their zombie dragon and terrogheist too?
>>94834934>AbhorashA bit samey. They could go for a bit of a twist, while still calling out to the World That Was
>>94834990Just the zombie dragon most likely. Except it's a RoR, so they can still play it (this edition at least).
>>94834959I don't think they look that bad together
Did the STD, Stormcast and Skaven card packs include both spearheads or just the new one for each?If they did then Soulblight is losing probably VLoZD and Terrorgheist.
>>94834872Gordrakk was right, some gitz you have to kill twice
Why do STDs no longer have a full warscroll download?
>>94835179Because they released a real book and they want you to pay for it
With the new zombie dragon being pan-Death Nighthaunt can no longer cry about not having monsters
>>94835190But... aren't the warscrolls always supposed to be free to download and the book is just a glorified collection of fluff?
Is it a dumb idea to buy nagash so I can save money on $ to points ratio as a casual player to get playing with the last money possible?t. likes nagash
>>94835217Do people truly love the HOMO 3 artstyle or is it just stubborn childhood attachment? It looks goofy as hell in a bad way.
>>94835219That was in the past and isn't a thing anymore.
Khorne book with Khul will releas on AoS's 10th aniversary this summer
>>94835220yes, it's dumb
>>94835217Is still not the kind of Dragon that the Nighthaunt army deserves.
>>94835233Malerion edgy anti-hero army. Trust the plan.
>>94835228Early 3D models re-converted to 2D sprites is a quite unique aproach. Usually they'd just go 3D for real
>>94835217No. It's not a ghost. Imagine how much better an actual ghost dragon in Nighthaunt style could look.
>>94835233kino
>>94835220Bringing nagash every game is a great way to not have people to play with
>>94835244It wasn't unique at the time, true 3D was aggressively ugly and not many computers could process it anyway.
Anyone got a pick of the new army tease. I heard some people say their is a bull icon on it so it's chorfs
>>94835252Yeah that's what I figuredFeels bad man
>>94835242Malerion lives in your heart anon. Morathi is in charge.
>>94835252Same but Teclis
>>94835259They are on the way anon.Hashut will lead soon they little fellows to glory.
>>94835246>in Nighthaunt stylenighthaunt style is literally just a skeletal head and a tattered robe covering the hunchback bodybe more innovative than that and ask for a different concept altogether
>>94835259People are saying the chain in the right eye is a bull symbol. But the face still looks Ossiarch to me
Chorfs have not sold well at any point and they will continue to flop. It will be votrannies all over again.
>>94835282Ok but then the main issue exist: The new Zombie Dragon just dont fit well in a NH army.
>>94835293They're replacing Beastmen, so it's not like they have a big shoes to fill
>>94835293Well Total War Warhammer changed everythingSo many people have gotten into Warhammer now because of it and I love playing as Chaos DwarfsI'd definitely go all in with them if GW released them, so long as they don't change the designs/units too much
>>94835290You can tell these threads are filled with urban shitters who cry when they see a tree. They kept saying this face looks like a bull...
>>94835300>TWW changed everything!!!!>Empire, TWW's mascot, is one of the worst selling ToW armies so far
>>94835293Fuck you doomanon, why you can't let people enjoy things? We already lose many factions give the Chorfs the chance.
>>94835290Yeah do we have a clearer Pic of the symbol thing?I'm with you that looks like bone to me. And death magic had long been associated with the spooky green color. I figured the Chaos dwarfs would have fiery molten eyes or whatever.
>>94835303Wait there are retards who think front facing eyes belong to a grazing herbivore?
>>94834950>monopose Why even give it a generic option at that point?
>>94835290>People are saying the chain in the right eye is a bull symbol.you mean to tell me you don't see the motif with the symbol of hashut?
>>94835309Idk, looks like pic related to me
>>94835307Didn't they just get released
>>94835314YES! Go back and witness them!
>>94835303It's the pattern on cloth in the background not the eyes, retard. It's similar to the emblem of the horns of hashut
>>94835307It has always been like this. Alan Merrett said Empire and Bretonnia sold the worst back in the game's heyday, whereas Skaven, Chaos and all of Elves sold the best.
>>94835319the generic option is meant for the other death armies or to milk paypigging waacfagsanyone telling you his army needs more than one giant dragon is either a kid or a tow player
>>94835307People have the wrong impression human armies are interesting or something but the data always shows the contrary, why is that? because if you want realism you just go to a WW wargame, but if you like fantasy you expect something else than play some literal who retards wielding some powder and faith...
>>94835326>belated damage controlLMOA>>94824261
So what are the chances that tomorrow the new gobbos are announced for next weeks preorder?
>>94835293>Chorfs have not sold well at any pointno, actually from the interviews chorfs sold well, and so did squats, their removal had everything to do with the fact GW changed the tone of their settings and felt like how they made these dwarfs' aesthetic was too comedic, so they put them aside and their hands got too occupied with other stuff to pick them up again until now even the forge world chaos dwarfs, despite being overpriced and being made of shitty resin, sold well
>>94835352This interview (I actually think it was an email by Jervis Johnson, not an interview) was about squats, it didn't mention chorfs.
My vibe check from the AoS community is that the number of hardcore Chorf fans is small, but the number of people who would potentially buy a Chorf armybox from hype is reasonably large. I think overall they'll do ok, ultimately it depends on what the actual minis look like and we won't know that until they're announced.
>>94835413all they have to do is give them full armours and big artillery piecesthey can do them with round shapes or angular shapes or tall hats or no hats, all that shit won't matter, all the people want are short chaos warriors with hellcannons>inb4 chaos dwarfs are actually chaos fyreslayers with a heavy emphasis on bull centaurs with no warmachines
>>94835352When the decision to 'squat' squats and Chirfs was made GW was already a publicly traded company going full greed mode. If they 'sold well' then there is zero chance the line would have been allowed to stop production.They didn't 'sell well.' They might have sold enough to break even or make a trickle of money but that is not good
>>94835413Legion of Azgorh was almost perfect with very little flaws. If they are smart they will follow that path.
>>94835307>>Empire, TWW's mascot, is one of the worst selling ToW armies so farDo you have sales stats? Because things being available or sold out on the official GW site are not exactly the clearest indicator.
>>94835413>>94835436Hats, hats, hats, hatsBIG HAAAAATS!!!
>>94835413>but the number of people who would potentially buy a Chorf armybox from hype is reasonably largeThe conversion rate from potential to actual here is often decidedly shite.
>>94835436>>94835445And thus we're shown that no matter what GW does with the chaos dwarves there's gonna be a hell of a lot of complaints about it. Probably accompanied with a lot of claims about sales figures despite no one actually having seen any sales figures.
>>94835429>If they 'sold well' then there is zero chance the line would have been allowed to stop production.yes, there absolutely is, they were overhauling the identity and larger appeal of their IPs and they would have been at max output with their existing lines and newer products.if you think gw couldn't possibly take a decision like that then you have to argue that every single time they make an update for a miniature it's because the previous kit didn't sell, or every time they put a product out of production it had to do with it not selling compared to what they're keeping in production do you want to tell me that sacrosanct stormcasts didn't sell but vanguard stormcasts do sell?
>>94835290Weird how quickly people have forgotten that Umbraneth have been teased for years. This image matches their vibe perfectly
>>94835504Now we are reaching levels of delusion that shouldnt be possible
>>94835413I haven't bought anything from GW since 2015 and I will buy a chorf armybox and some other units and heroes as well.
>>94835526Let me cope, I miss the era of Age of Elfmar
>>94835541I wonder how many who post stuff like that haven't thought about GW's tendency to change things around for GW and thus don't realize that the chaos dwarves they imagine might not quite be what GW delivers (especially given how absurdly specific people can be about what they want for these things), and how many are fully aware that they're just nerd virtue signalling.
>>94835504>their vibeSo what is their vibe exactly? Last I checked it was so vague that almost anything can match it 'perfectly'
>>94835590Oh I'm fully aware that GW might just bait and switch and release something else or, worse, release bad chorfs. Then my no-spending-on-GW streak will continue. No big deal. Just wanted to highlight that well made chorfs would be one of the things my wallet would open for GW.
>>94835599Well from the teasers, they have a fondness for shadows, glowing eyes, and teal-ish tints as is characteristic of Ulgu
>>94835436It's shit. Looks like kitbashed IG. This shit killed its potential, actually.
>>94835541Understandable. Like I'm not interested in TOW but I will almost definitely buy the Cathay armybox.
>>94835599
>>94835526
>>94835636so a slab of rough stone with a wide face and geometric symbols in the beady eyes "matches perfectly" with a floaty faceless ethereal and refined elf with polished and elegant equipment?
>>94835624Personally I like the early Babylonian vibes more than the bland industrial look that came later, but I also do think Chorfs need big guns and warmachines, it's what sets them apart from other Chaos armies. Hopefully whatever the AoS version comes up with threads that needle successfully.
>>94835290It's obviously beastmen
>>94835675>I also do think Chorfs need big guns and warmachines, it's what sets them apart from other Chaos armiesYOU DONT SAY
>>94835701not big enough and too rickety this is a cannon
>>94835678I hope!
>VLotZD got a new modelWhat will happen to terrorgheists now? Are they going to become FEC only?
>>94835711It's physically larger, mr nominis
>>94835714>Are they going to become FEC only?Most likely
>>94835701Faggot rattos maybe have failed rocket science but they will never have industrial power.
>>94835720it's merely longer, but it's a thin piece of shit and the bulk of it is the irrelevant wooden frame
I'm still a little shocked that GW gave away essentially the entire years release schedule for AoS/40K/TOW during the first preview event of the year. I'm glad they did, but man what a change from the last POS roadmap they did.
>>94835752>the entire years release schedule for AoS/40K/TOWnah, it looks like it's a lot because there's many different factions but most of them aren't getting much
>>94835727Damn it, in 3rd I started project - wanted Avengorii, so have Lauka, zombie dragon, terrorgheist and two still unbuilt kits for the terror/zombie dragon. The plan was to also play them as Gristlegore. I guess I will have to get more dragons and wait for fifth...
>>94835762>nah, it looks like it's a lot because there's many different factions but most of them aren't getting muchIrrelevant. That's an entire years worth of releases even if most of them are small, and several of them are more than that.Especially because they all end on basically the biggest releases with Chorfs, Cathay and Space Wolves. It's unlikely they could fit in much more than 8 battletomes in one year for AoS AND the last one is a full new army release.
>>94835776Nothing stops you from using terors as dragons
>>94835476>every single time they make an update for a miniature it's because the previous kit didn't sellThats literally the fucking opposite.Yhing sells well, you update it so you can sell it again, kit that dont sell well remain unapdated for 25 years
>>94835785You are right, I am filthy casual, so nobody would mind, and it will probably end this way. But internally, I feel it as injustice and a unit taken away from me.
>>94835815>I am filthy casualLike if theres people who would give a shit in a tourney
>>94835778Just to follow up on my point a little bithttps://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battletome>2015 4 battletomes>2016 9 battletomes>2017 4 battletomes>2018 7 battletomes>2019 12 battletomes>2020 5 battletomes>2021 7 battletomes>2022 10 battletomes>2023 10 battletomes>2024 5 battletomes12 tomes in one year was the absolute high watermark, and that only happened once for 2E which was the one edition that needed to give every army in the game a book ASAP.Otherwise 8-10 in a year is more or less the standard, and even if GW does sneak in one or two tomes at the end of 2025 that doesn't change much in terms of how much of the schedule they are giving us in mid January, which is still unprecedented
>>94835309>And death magic had long been associated with the spooky green color. I figured the Chaos dwarfs would have fiery molten eyes or whatever.The Horns of Hashut have green eyes on their bull helmets
>>94835752Yeah, they really kicked it up a notch there.
>>94835778in 2022 they had 10 battletomes released, right after they released 3rd edition in 2021, they were empty releases with just the tome and maybe a pity hero attached to a battle box, but still, they have to do many of those too this time around and they have increased their output since.
>>94835880What awful year...
I am still too much of a midwit to understand why vampires ride massive dragons instead of massive bat like creatures
>>94835909If you could bring a dragon back to life and make it submit to your will enough to ride it around like a horse, wouldn't you?
>>94835909not everything has to be bat themed and dragons are cool plus there's a long-standing association between dragons and vampires due to dracula
>>94835880With Beastmen going to TOW, the number of battletomes for AoS remains unchanged at 24 even with Chorfs added. So far we've gotten 4 for 4E, SC, Skaven, STD, and Warclans. The roadmap has 8 for this year, that's 12. That leaves 12 more books to release in 2026 and early 2027Mind you, I'm not saying the roadmap is LITERALLY everything that will release in 2025, they might squeeze in like one more battletome or pair of battletomes at best, but that's still giving us 90% of the year revealed in mid January and that's still crazy.
>>94835922>So far we've gotten 4 for 4E, SC, Skaven, STD, and Warclans. The roadmap has 8 for this year, that's 12you counted warclans twice here
>>94835900It was an utterly depressing year for talking about new releases, I remember it vividly. At least the Sylvaneth update was kinda cool, and the STD armybox released for Christmas. 2023 was a way better year though.
>>94835909Bats are shit compared to Dragons anon.
>>94835938Nope>SC Skaven STD WarclansThat's 4>Gits, SBGL, NH, IDK, Khorne KO, FEC, ChorfsThat's 8Are you mixing up Warclans and Gits?
>>94835880When Ogres, Fyreslayers, Idoneth and DoT will get a real release? I mean Skavens got their shit, trees have a good range same with DoK and Nighthaunt but those 4 factions could use a real release instead of a pity hero.
>>94835948I wasn't counting chorf and was counting warclans as a 2025 release, looking at >>94834910
>>94835909If they need a bat they can let themselves mutate into one.
>>94835950Three of those probably aren't even releasing this year so who knows. It's too early for rumors if they're coming out 2026 or later. IDK, there's a small bit of hope from rumormongers they get more than the bare minimum this time, but it's still murky.
>>94835950idoneth are on the roadmap, but I don't think they're getting muchI'm expecting ogres getting a range refresh (changing or removing anything that was made before the mournfangs, stonehorn and cannon) near the end of the edition fingers crossed for slayers, the concept deserved much more than the abysmal execution and lackluster range they got in early aos
>>94835950Chorfs vs Fyreslayers would be absolutely cool.James should take that chance to make a range for both.
>>94834903>one spire of itGreat idea. Corpse cart should be a chariot for Barrow Kings and vampires IMO
>>94835015Only problem of the old one is subpar head. Gheist is much better.
Is the Path to Glory book out yet?(Anyone have a pdf link?)
>>94835297So dose black coach and guy with a half of boat. Paint it spooky and its fine.
>>94835015I think they should keep the zombie dragon in FEC and simply refluff the bits for the vampire on top of the dragon as a golden hallucination that both ghouls and opponents have
>>94835900Enlightener is my favourite hero looks-wise
>>94835950DoK still need about 2 boxes of units. They were a small army on release, since then they got Shadowstalkers and 3 heroes. It was nice because they were lacking in hero department, having 3 heroes tied to the Cauldron kit and Morathi.
>>94835950>same with DoK
>>94835909It's all because the warrior type vampires were called blood dragons in WHFB, initially without a second thought, but then they built their future releases around it. Mind you, the initial zombie dragon rider was a mage - back in those days where every army that could have a dragon was mandated to have one.
>>94836121>>94836122the only thing dok need and deserve is getting relegated into a subfaction of a wider ulgurothi book, with malerion's faction overshadowing their range in numbers of kit out of the gate.
>>94836066Or just make difrent upper torso without armour and boom, done looks cool.
>>94836143Point at the "Umbraneth" delusional retards and laugh, sis!
>>94836143Any day now, surely. What will actually happen is the shadow portion of DoK will be expanded this edition under Foot Fetish lady and rumors of Malerion's return will get pushed even farther back.
>>94835504Weird how quickly you forget the direct teasers in 4th edition rulebooks and multiple leakers saying chorfs are absolutely coming
>>94836143Fuck off back to your gay alliance destruction
>>94836176that would require remaking the moulds, that's the cost intensive part
>>94836143i can't understand people who wish for this... i mean i can understand wanting malerion guys but hope all the same for the squat of a good and interesting faction like dok when malerion have room with the whole shadow demon stuff to be something else is just being faggot for the sake of faggotry.
>Spider Riders squatted and Spiderfang is only represented by the Arachnarok Grim
>>94836143Unlikely at this point. They've been their own army for too long to be turned into a subfaction.
>>94836285wonder if the spider riders will be moved to TOW since they have rules for them in that game or like Save Orcs will simply not be sold anymore
>>94836285First them, Now the goblino version!!Is unfair,bros!!
>>94836306TOW better release them eventually I need Boarboys for Warcry/2e
>>94836245>good and interesting faction like dokit's not a faction, it's literally just morathi and mini-morathis who are not allowed to be, do or even think anything other than what morathi saysthe one character that's not like that was introduced practically yesterday, is completely antithetical to the faction to the point it canonically cannot use 3 of the 5 basic units kits, and the one kit it is most thematically linked to is the one unit every single dokfag hates and is attached to a build option of a unit that's getting squatted soon, meaning the kit will be going away too
>>94836314Everything you said is miles better than what they could do with the Druuchi faggot lmao
>>94836292Are moonclan not merely one subfaction of the gits tome now?the only difference between the gits situation and the khainite situation is that the tome will change name and the models getting added will be more numerous than the ones that exist in the book.
>>94836301Savage Orcs have rules for TOW as well, alongside Mega Gargants and Boingrot Bounderz. It doesn't really mean anything
>>94836339>Lurk Liar >Bad MoonIt's a Moonclan book with misc friends thrown in
>>94836339This take is so retarded... Moonclan is the base of the faction, adding some wolves with the sun theme, the same as adding the crow lady to introduce some conflict in between the faction doesnt mean you can change the fundamental identity and aesthetic of an army.
>The grots of the Gitmobs revel in the light of the Bad Moon just like their grotto-dwelling kin, but unlike their damp, anaemic, sun-hating Gloomspite cousins, they view the searing entity called the Glareface Frazzlegit (the realm of Hysh to us) as a bully who chases around their much vaunted Bad Moon. I thought Gitmob worshipped the sun?
>>94836346savage orcs don't have their unit profile, they're merely represented by a unit upgrade the devil of GW's internal laws is in details like these
>>94836358Crow girl does not clash with the core theme of the army in any way, unlike the genghis goblins in the Moonclan tome.
>>94836361They do, they came up with some stupid reason why it's acktchyually the moon, but it was so cringe that I forgot it
>>94836314>the one character that's not like that was introduced practically yesterday, is completely antithetical to the faction to the point it canonically cannot use 3 of the 5 basic units kits,Wow, it's almost like she's the harbringer of a new thematic wave of DoK units. A Herald, even.
>>94836365Well the fundamental themes of DoK are blood, snakes and ladies. The blind girl with tengu wings is not what you would call a cohesive factor.
>>94836361it's a lesser retcon, they went from worship to respect/hate relationship which is honestly more fitting since they're greenskins and since the sun is literally elf-landgoblins have had an enmity with elves for a long time in warhammer
they should have added him if they wanted gotta go fast!goblinos.
>>94836376When Blind Girl was introduced, the announcers literally read off their little card that she represented the Shadow Side of DoK, instead of the blood side. How stupid are you to not understand what that implies, seriously?
>>94836364So? There are rules for Savage Orcs as well as Big Stabbas. They're written with the 8e kit in mind
>>94836385Wasn't in WHF's setting Isn't in TOW Was never played in WHFB because named character slop
>>94836385They don't need to, they just took the core concept of fat fucker who likes chariots and going fast and built the whole subfaction around it.
>>94836385Kill yourself thirdworlder
>>94834872He looks like he was sired by Abhorash.
>>94836400>So?so a unit profile means there's plans for it being represented by a productwhile not every equipment option requires representation in the old worldthey do intend you to use the 8e kit, informally, but they don't plan to bring back the 8e kit
>>94836385They practically did, in spirit if not in nameThe light of eltharion will once again have to see one or more fat goblins on a chariot pulled by wolves attacking his elven homeland
>>94836442the homage is direct enough that they used the motif of the chariot being built with a horned skull into its frame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJhyEHSh9DU&ab_channel=WarhammerSorry but i will always prefer the actual Moon chads over the weird Sun shit.
>>94836432That's just copium. They both have rules.
>Warhammer Fantasy references rumors of other vampire bloodlines, like a secret chinese one, naima the chinese vampire girl who doesn't sire more vamps, rumors that Vlad was not vashanesh but a totally different guy so vashanesh is out there, maatmeses disgusting locust vampires, Harakhte's jiang-shi jadeblooded>dies>Age of Sigmar has the opportunity to do these kinds of off the wall vamps but chooses to do furries (werewolves), strigoi and blood dragons insteadAoS sometimes disappoints me with ugly new designs, then disappoints me in other ways by not trying out something new.
>>94836481Faggot
>>94836536He's completely right. AoS vampires are almost all terrible.
>>94836361Somewhere else it said that they like the sun because it's a mean bully and they look up to that
>>94836481you lost me midway through the jibberish in the first sentence.
>>94836540>AoS does werewolfs instead of grasshoper vampires, how terrible!!!1!
>>94834959The replacement Dragon fully convinced me to convert the one I got into a full-on Kruleboyz Swamp Dragon proxy for the vulcha.
>>94836580what's the point of making a post like this
>>94836604Making fun of you mostly
>>94836620I wasn't the person you replied to I just don't get the thing where someone just greentexts what someone said as if that's a refutationIt's strange behaviour
>>94836576>brain not able to compute simple list of thingsThere should be vampires who eat brains.
>Implying Virkos bloodline doesn't deserve his own book and has a really cool aestheticYou all crazy dudes need Nagash.
>>94836628Excuse him, he is a furry. This is the best he can do.
>>94836628>newchuds can't onionsquote
>>94836648No, no, you expect me to recognize names that probably only originated from some single white dwarf magazine that’s probably older than both of us combined, in addition to the use of some Chinese linguo that sounds like it’s coming straight out of the bowels of a chinaman who uses sewer oil for his meals.
This is a nice model.
>>94836649i do like the Vykros and they should get more models but I do wish GW went more fences with AoS Vampires maybe Tzimisce flesh crafting or half-sylvaneth vampires level weird, just something just a bit out there not just more Nofuratu or Dracula's
>>94836684Why go with a hotpot to fight?
>>94836376She represents ladies (DUH!) and blood, as she stabbed herself in the eyes with her spiky mask to gain clairvoyance.
>>94836706He’s making meatballs. And the good thing about making meatballs, is knowing that a filthy darkoath doesn’t know how to make them, and it’s important to make meatballs, because darkoath aren’t allowed to have good things in life.
>>94836683jiangshi is baby's first alternative vampire; not even close to being obscure
>>94836380...the anti-sun is also elf-land.You can't have any relationship with optics without treading on elf turf.
>>94836731Maybe it they weren't retarded savages they could be allowed some nice things?
>>94836649The issue is the metaphors of aristocratic manipulation aren't applicable to half naked savages. Vyrkos shouldn't use necromancy or if they do it should be mechanically different
>>94836649I want a generic Vyrkos lord.
>>94836774They have a royal nature but they are also tied to a Godbeast, their powers come from such pact no only from Nagash. I find that dichotomy between their inner beast and the fact they are still vampires refreshing and more interesting than your inner Mannfag or the crazy idiots.
>>94836782Yeah that’s the one thing I wish we had, rules for generic dynasties more.
>>94836782I want a whole unit of these fine gentlemen.
>>94836796Not really, Cursed City had the proletariat to bourgeoisie Stalin theme but the same can't be applied to every other Vyrkos so it falls flat They are savage slavs piggybacking off the themes of SBGL as a whole and it just doesn't work
>>94836424
>>94836774They used to kill infantry models and turn them into wolves, is it not different enough?
>>94836649Vyrkos? More like Ulrika: the bloodline. Actually, Baba Yaga is probably Ulrika.
>>94836874doesn't Ulrika get a mention in Realmslayer where she's in the afterlife or something along with everyone who isn't Felixnot out of the realm of possibility, genevieve showed up in some BL books for AoS after all
>>94836866Just belladamma's signature spell but yes, if they all had that alone it'd be fine. Instead they're all bogstandard vampires (and Belladamma lost that after 2e)
>>94836892She's dead, in an afterlife of Shyish with Max (Felix eternally cucked)
>>94836481>Age of Sigmar has the opportunity to do these kinds of off the wall vamps but chooses to do furries (werewolves), strigoi and blood dragons insteadThis is a total lie. The only correct statement here is that they remade the Blood Dragons, albeit they look better now.There was already a wolf-themed bloodline in WHFB. Von Carsteins. They could turn into and summon wolves. However, GW improved them by giving them an Eastern European aesthetic, which the whole realm of Shyish shares.Strigoi were remade into a separate army and they're so much better now, it's not even funny. Get the fuck out of here.Aside from that, there's also Avengorii (mutant vampires) and Tengorez (crystal vampires). And also there's the Wraith Fleet, which also existed in WHFB but you didn't mention. Guess you were only pretending to be a grog and were, in fact, a lorelet instead.
>>94836220When did I deny that chorfs are coming?
>>94836892>>94836907She IS in Shyish. Can't argue with that. Although her feet aren't very cute anymore.
>>94836896Is a disgrace because that was pretty nice and fitting for the whole "I had Hrunspuul powers backing me"
>>94836940Vyrkos would instantly become bearable for me when they turn all the Cursed city glub shittos into generic characters.
People keep talking about wanting chorfs to have a bunch of mechanical cannons and war machines. Personally, I hate that. I'm trying to play in a fun fantasy setting with monsters, swords, and sorcery. Keep your industrial revolution out of it. There are already enough factions with guns, play 40k if you want machines.
>>94836927…crystal vampires?
>>94836954?????????? What the fuck, anon? Dwarfs, and Chaos Dwarfs in particular, always had a gimmick of artillery and warmachines...If you hate the idea of Dwarfs+Warmachines you have Fyreslayers and if you just hate the whole idea of Warmachines play any of the twenty factions that had 0 siege engines... But don't fuck the Chorf release for your weird tastes.
>>94836955Yes. Tengorez, the dynasty of Hysh. They're desiccated like mummies, live in crystal caves and build war lasers. Their location in a desert as well as obsession with the sun call to mind Mesoamerican vampires, but this is pure speculation.
>>94836954>he thinks pre-industrial revolution armies didnt use guns>meanwhile 200 years prior to the industrial revolutionhahaha.HAHAHAHAHA
>>94836927This, just this. Vampires look much more diverse and nice now.Vyrkos with the CC stuff are almost a complete and cohesive armyMannfred kin with new skeles, dragon, vampire lord and the old models look impressive as vampire armyThen you have FeC, the old strigoii and they are by far the mot interesting and appealing of the bunch.WHFB vampires never were so diverse or interesting fag.
>>94836927but none of those more interesting Vampire bloodlines get any models unlike the more generic and standered ones
New scans? Is that a thing?
>>94836981Do jade obelisks have any interaction with them?
>>94836940That's not her, she's a ghost in Shyish
>>94836700>flesh craftingThis is Deathwalker turf. Fanggots not welcome.
>>94837022Deadwalkers battletome 2026BELIEVE!
>>94836819Idiot. Vampires are a Slavic fairy tale and the word itself is Slavic. All those leftist metaphors of aristocracy were made up by Bram Stocker, an Irishman who was probably gay like everyone who goes to British boy's schools.
>>94836983AI sloppa?
>>94837049I want to believe
>Generic Bloodlines Necromancy and deathrattle minions, like noble rulers >Vyrkos Lycancurse and feral deadwalkers, like savages beasts
>>94837051Arent slavic vampires more similar to ghouls or maybe strigoi vampires at most?
>>94837021>a ghost... of a vampire!The theory that she's Belladama Volga looks downright compelling in comparison
>>94837051don't forget Carmilla as well as a major inspiration for modern Vampires
>>94836954Exactly, there's so many armies with guns already that just one more will not affect the tone of the setting very much.
>>94837051Yeah, GW based the rules of the modern pop culture vampire and that's why it doesn't work for Vyrkos you idiot
>>94837012Don't know, probably not
>>94836954Chorfs will have daemon engines, which are a more fantastical take on war machines
>>94837073It's not a theory. It's canon opposing fanfiction
>>94837070They sure as hell weren't aristocrats, but they weren't ghouls either. They were, more or less, not too different from what you'd imagine.
>>94837108Can't wait for this ghost to be killed and raised as a zombie
>>94837062Sorry brother but Vyrkos do the necromancy stuff a lot better just like at their zombies
>>94834872>we still got bets open for what the sbgl spells and scenery are likeYou think we'll finally get scenery and terrain set in a mortuary factory?
>>94837137Gorslav raised those actually
>>94837053It is AI, but cannons of such calibre existed IRL.
>>94837164Interesting trivia: his name means "Glory Mountain"
>>94835268Its hilarious because in lore, isn't Morathi's kingdom like a splinter state of the actual Ulgu empire ruled by Malerion?
>>94835290>Entaro Adun, Executor
>>94837194Yeah, it's why Anvilgard was important
>>94837194They're unrelated
>>94837194Only in the beginning. Her cult spread far and wide across every realm.
>>94837178I though he's just "Gore+Slav"
>>94837194That's in Ulgu, Morathi has tentacles far away from that, and plans that include human cities.
>>94835233Made to order starter set please GW
>>94837214Umm sweaty, it's Har-Kuron.
>>94837229"Goreslav" is an actual old ass name and it means "Glorious Sorrow". However, the "E" is significant.
>>94837053look up the siege of constantinope in the mid 1400s, the cannons made by orban. they were so large and fired so hot that they needed to constantly douse them in coolant to prevent them from cracking. engineered specifically to breach the walls of the city, supposedly took almost 100 oxen to pull the damn thing into place.
>>94837263but you could have just used an image of them rather than a piece of AI art
>>94837270it didnt actually survive i dont think, there is a similar cannon made by one of orbans contemporaries after the fact inspired by orbans cannon which is housed in a museum but the rest of the images that exist are artistic recreations.
Will Silent People ever become a thing?
>>94837290Mostly dwarves.
>>94837294Just headswap regular beastmen with tyranids bro, this is what they are, nothing more.
>>94837270
>>94837294Fuck knows in a decades time, but don't hold your breath.
>>94837306Good example because Silent People just like Beastmen live only the minds of the delusional people that likes shit concepts.
>>94837290Dwarfs are based on... dwarfs. They are real people. Real people with biological predisposition to work in tight spaces like old fashioned mines
>>94837263>they needed to constantly douse them in coolant to prevent them from crackingIt's not a machine gun, even normal sized siege artillery of the time tended to have rates of fire measured in rounds per day. If they doused it with water it was after firing, to make it safe to start tossing in black-powder again, not because it did anything meaningful during the split second it took for it to shoot.
>>94837407>rounds per dayabout 16 according to the record i could find. the coolant was something mentioned in a historical documentary and i dont have a direct source on hand for that, but it wasnt water, it was some kind of oilin any case, cooling aside, it supposedly fired a 1200lb stone projectile,
>>94836683https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JiangshiLiterally just the standard "this is a chinese vampire-like creature" thing. Like the basic go-to even for the chinese, who made a movie called Mr. Vampire that starred a jiangshi as a horror comedy.
I actually would like to see asian vampire race but i think asians are actually sensitive with that kind of myths?
>>94836981>>94836927Good thing they got a whole model range right.Oh wait
>>94836927>Guess you were only pretending to be a grog and were, in fact, a lorelet instead.Are you an actual moron, how the fuck would listing basic vampire snapplefacts that anyone who spends 3 seconds reading a wiki would know mean I'm "pretending to be a grog"? Go back to red dit, unironically, you buzzword spouting tourist.
>>94837661idk what do people from China or Japan think about the Kuei-jin from World of Darkness?because GW would probably do something as culturally generic and orientalist as the Kuei-jin
>>94836993All of those except wolfguys are literally just WHFB vampires. There was zero attempt to make something different, even in human cultural terms, like a Filipino vampire who eats pagpag instead of blood. Never mind the actual weird ideas like "crystal vampires who worship the sun".
>>94837661the superstitious stereotype is an exaggeration enforced by the ccp
>>94836143how about no
sigmar balls
>>94837306>to make bug-men, use the least-bug part of a model that already only superficially resembles bugs
Should I get a maw krusha? I have the finger on the trigger of my next wave of reinforcements for my Ironjawz, and I need heroes. I almost certainly need a shaman to use my the new manifestations.Otherwise I'm not sure if I should get a maw krusha or the spearhead. Any advice? Right now I have battleforce +unit of brutes
Friendly warning to anyone building big pig. Put the ass strap on before the rear hip plates or at least dry fit it.The instructions have you put it on afterwards but the tail is in the way and the rear hip plates are so snug up against the body that it becomes difficult to fit it in and the strap piece itself snaps very easily, it's quite delicate
>>94837934Mawkrushas a fun model, spearhead is like twice the points for the same price though so it will fill out an army faster, and everything in it is good. I would get the spearhead first, you need to bulk out that force, if you get the spearhead + 1 more box of ardboyz that should give you 2x20 ardboyz, 2x5 brutes a mawgrunta, a megaboss, and I believe 9 ragerz All of that gets you just shy of 2k pts, and you can work in zogrokk and/or an ardboy big boss with a little points finagling. All of that would be a pretty solid, sturdy ardboy centric ironjawz army that's a good easy to use 2k. After that you can start adding frills and niche units like the manifeststions and terrain, a mawkrusha, weirdnob/warchanter, or more pigs, but I would focus on getting a playable 2k core first so you can actually start playing games and have an army on the field
>>94837294If they ever make Bugs in fantasy i Hope they make GSC style with humans+semi divine biological beings
>>94838093Sylvaneth already have a decent amount of bugs, are semi divine/a straight up god, and their gameplay is basically gsc
Rate my Cities list. Just want to run a bunch of dudes and shoot shit. 1960/2000 ptsCities of Sigmar | Ironweld Guild ArmyDrops: 4Spell Lore - Spells of the Collegiate ArcanePrayer Lore - Scriptures of SigmarManifestation Lore - Primal EnergyGeneral's RegimentFreeguild Marshal and Relic Envoy (110) • General • Sacred Tome • 1x Master-forged LongswordFreeguild Command Corps (160)Fusil-Major on Ogor Warhulk (180) • Master of BallisticsIronweld Great Cannon (110)Ironweld Great Cannon (110)Regiment 1Battlemage on Celestial Hurricanum (240)Freeguild Steelhelms (180) • ReinforcedFreeguild Steelhelms (90)Regiment 2Freeguild Cavalier-Marshal (150)Freeguild Cavaliers (160)Wildercorps Hunters (120)Regiment 3Alchemite Warforger (110)Freeguild Fusiliers (120)Freeguild Fusiliers (120)
>>94837741is blades of khorne going to be releasing side by side with the world eaters release? Would be interesting to compare what the two ranges get,
>>94838321Hope so i entered in both to have a consistent army across both universes
>>94836927You forgot Askurgan
>they redid the Deathrattle three timesWho is in charge of GW's decision making that they allow people to redo skeletons three times? Same with who thought it was OK yeeting a <5 year model? Like I could understand - just about - Neave because she was a SCE and needed her new armour and I could just about understanding purging 23 odd models from SCE because gotta give them 20 back or some s hit. But Wight King and Skeletons?
>>94836237At this point yes but I dont see why they didnt made it. Its such no brainer but James cant stop himself.
>>94838434They did it solely for me, because the models were a pain in the fucking ass to assemble. took an hour to assemble HALF the box.
>>94838444Yeah but they fucked it up two times and then went>Okay, this time for sure!Or what? What about the Wight King? Was a fantastic model. You could have easily just made another warscroll and called the new one a Wight Lord or Wight Champion or hell made it have like a skirt or dress or something and called it a Wight Queen. Could have had both. Instead we lose a good model.
>>94838467The kicker: There's two warscrolls for the new guy
>>94838483What? You're shitting me.
>>94838496
>>94838434>Neave because she was a SCE and needed her new armourher armour didn't suffer literally any of the problems of fatcasts armors, not the proportions, not the fat detailings, not the cringe worthy pauldron they could have bundled her together with the sprue for her companions and it would have been a way better deal
>>94838513Thunderstrike is different but they should've kept that for the generic build that's now gone
>>94835254Love this game. Best undeads par none.
>>94838434I think this latest wave is so that they can ha e a clean break from the old world, both in terms of kits and naming convention
>>94838501Goodness sake.>>94838569Yeah I can understand Barrow Knights and Barrow Guard if they wanna bring back Undead to TOW with Grave Guard etc but they've still got a few factions to go plus Cathay. Regardless the Wight King was made during AoS run so I don't see why it was purged.
>>94835179>Why do STDs no longer have a full warscroll download?it's literally on the warcom siteassets.warhammer-community.com/eng_aos_slaves_to_darkness_spearhead_dec24-n9nnuosxba-jn9ynkqhrb.pdf
>>94838658nevermind i am retarded it's fucking spearhead
>>94838434I think was necessary but being sincere they could add another unit of calcium, but overall i think they are a very good release love every single one of them.
>>94837137Peak reddit, stabs his own family with stake trough the coffin lid, it didnt work anyway.
AoS going from strength to strength, goddamn
>>94838673They removed (I think) all the Cursed City heroes so space had been made in the tome. Could have just made the new one with - as I said - a dress or a head veil or something to desginate the skeleton used to be female and could be a cool Wight Queen. Do a thing like Chaos has Darkoath Chieftain and Darkoath Warqueen. I also championed for Trogg to have been kept and renamed Troggoth King and the Troll Hag to be renamed Troggoth Queen and we could have done that too.
>>94838680What the fuck are you talking about?
>>94838681Deathrattle
>>94838681you can tell a release wave is good when it has a cavalry unit and a mounted hero
>>94838690Forgot to add, as the preview said, one is a Wight King the other is a Wight Lord (warscroll wise) so seems really weird they got rid of the first Wight King when you could have just gone>OK that's a Wight King, this is a Wight Lord.
>>94838681Why can't skellies be their own thing? Is because bonefaggots?
>>94838714It's because vampires are parasites.And yes, because ossiarchs got the slot for independent bone army.
>>94838714They are. There's an army of renown for them
>>94838629>Regardless the Wight King was made during AoS run so I don't see why it was purged.GW obsesion to ruin good things. One +on foot in mail coming next week with nice discount. I won James.
>>94838681S-same price?>>94838699About those zombies being better at anything, well they are well painted at least.
Cities of Sigmar | Dawnbringer CrusadeDrops: 2General's RegimentFreeguild Cavalier-Marshal (150) • General • Grizzled VeteranFreeguild Cavaliers (320) • ReinforcedFreeguild Marshal and Relic Envoy (110) • Brazier of Holy Flame • 1x Heirloom WarhammerFreeguild Steelhelms (180) • ReinforcedIronweld Great Cannon (110)Regiment 1Alchemite Warforger (110)Running this list this afternoon. Going easy on a new guy to teach him the game.
>>94838681Gitmob are horrible
>>94838714They literally can be their own thing, you can run an all-skeleton army
>>94838629>Regardless the Wight King was made during AoS run so I don't see why it was purged.the only reason I can think of is that the previous one was made with the decorations of black knights and grave guards in mind and was made to help move their stock by being a juicy new hero thrown into a start collecting box full of the old minis; while now all the design cues have been definitely removed or changed and they have a new wight lord on steed to sell.GW has a weirdly compartmentalised conception of its model ranges.
Does anyone have a link to the 4E core book?
>>94838055Would you consider manifestations frills? I kind of assumed the army would be balanced around bringing your terrain and manifestations, and I figured having someone to dispell would be pretty core.Thanks for the feedback btw, really helpful as a new player. I think I'm often going to be facing seraphon and StD
>>94838681Of all Death armies Who you would say is on top and Who is in the bottom? Use the whatever field you want
So is it basically confirmed that each army well get a terrain tax along with the battletome?
>>94838779I think I would like to play against this.Wight King on Skeletal Steed 14010 Knights 36020 skelies 20010 guard 16010 wolves 140
>>94838903Yeah.
>>94838779I don't get Cav Marshall desu. He doesn't particularly do much damage or take much pain and only serves to give +1 charge (imo not worth it at all because high-roll charging is unwise) and 1 per battle strike first to a charging unit (idk, maybe its clutch if you counter-charge something nasty, but other than that its mid). Really his only purpose is to be mobile officar order battery, but in that case just run a foot marshal and use his ability to give orders at range and get that command core buff.
>>94838513>not the proportions, not the fat detailingsshits almost exactly the same
>>94838714>Pure skeleton and bonereaper fans always at each other's throats>Meanwhile I'm happily tinkering a list full of deathrattle and using the new ossiarch army of renown for extreme bonemaxxing
>>94839045This but i'm just Happy being and ectoplasmfag and Happy for choose this faction
>>94838903No, SBGL are only getting endless spells
>>94839066I'm pretty sure they mentioned they're getting terrain too
>>94839045are you going to use tomb kangs for the deathrattle side at least?
>>94838884Narrative relevance:1)OBR-the protagonists of Death2)Nighthaunt-do all the work 3)FEC- basically an Order faction, but does stuff4)Soulblight-sits in the corner playing with itself
>>94839181>1)OBR-the protagonists of DeathNot at all? Nighthaunt have the most emphasis and SBGL the widest reach being prominent since 1e and having the second largest range
>>94838787
>>94839199What did nighthaunt even do since 2nd edition?
>>94839199no he's right, Ossiarch are the guys who actually do what Nagash wants. They are the protagonists of death.Soulblight are off doing whatever stupid bullshit they want because they're all immortal catty bitches.And the ghosts have no personality.
>>94836143Bad news, they will be a literal sub faction.
>>94839223Nagash is dead and OBR just vaguely try to conquer Shyish (unsuccessfully), they're a background threat to be stumbled upon and beaten
>>94839249The whole Osiarchs are on the defensive in preparation to vermindoom, and having a foothold in the eoghtpoints, i personally expect them to either become the main bad guys or good guys in the 4th edition ending campaign
>>94839273That'd be interesting but the narrative of death has always been reconquering lost territory in Shyish so I don't think they'll ever change
Is Tzeentch any fun?
>>94839181LOL. Imagine thinking Katashitter is the prota of Death. When was the last time Ossisrch did something?At least Lady Olynder our kindly Mistress kicked Prime ass and faced Belchud.
>>94839249>Nagash is deadThat's his whole shtick you goddamn retarded fanggot
>>94839409>When was the last time Ossisrch did something?In WD. They dredged Lethis of its titan elderbone and damaged it for another assault.
Fury of the deep is still available for saleHow does GW fuck up so badly?
>>94839409>When was the last time Ossisrch did something?Last week, when they laid siege to lethis because they had a bone to pick with them?Last time we saw vampires they were killing each other and missed one of the big dawnbringer crusades, while manfred appeared on screen for 5 second in arkhan's empty basement to get scared of literal rats and flee, and neferata got her wine smuggling business hijacked after getting outsmarted by fucking ghouls.
>>94839469Maybe in your meme country, but in countries that matter (UK) it hasn't been for sale for years.
I have a gut feeling next edition will have OBR vs Stormcast. Which means OBR when they get no second wave until then. OBR 4th edition book aint even coming out this year all I feel is pain perhaps should I
>>94839519still under MSRP on US amazon. Hell, into last year you could still get the Idoneth Start Collecting on US Amazon for under MSRP.Truly, nobody gives a shit about the fish Aelves. It's two models people buy to paint with an unwanted army sold alongside them.
>>94839542OBR in a starter is the absolutely best case scenario for themother possibilities are>ogres in the starter>droghuks in the starter>zombies in the starter >tzeentch in the starter
>>94839542Jesus my dyslexia hit hard. I dont know answer captcha sometimes. I have a gut feeling next edition will have OBR vs Stormcast. Which means OBR will get no second wave until then. OBR 4th edition book isnt even coming out this year. Perhaps I should just start playing lumies or IDK if they get something cool revealed.
Building the Rockgut Troggoth kit. It's pretty amazing, although some of the torso halves don't fit together quite right, there's certain pairings that are clearly intended
Have a little Escalation League starting tomorrow.>EvensI go Lumineth>OddsI go Ossiarchs
>>94839600you should go ossiarchs anyway
>>94839576>>tzeentch in the starterchaos 2 times in a row is not happening
>>94839575>amazon
>>94839576Nah its so far gone chaos,death,destruction, back to chaos. The it seems to go in a cycle.Plus destruction box set did ass because no one wanted baby leg orks. OBR being the starter faction makes sense since we have not had a big OBR vs Stormcast moment in the lore. While I agree them being starter would be awesome for them it just means that it will be years before they get any meaningful update. Which is weird OBR is actually a cool faction unlike the fire diaper midgets so its weird they get the same level of love.
>>94839576>ogres in the starterThat would be awesome but it seems like GW wants the bad guy side to be hordey. Let's them put a more impressive number of models in the box. Unless they bring back the Gnoblar horde, then maybe...>droghuks in the starteralso would be amazing, but I think it's just wishful thinking.>zombies in the starterI like Soulblight but they got a Cursed city, a big model refresh in 2nd, and are getting a big model refresh again now in 4th. If they also get to be a starter faction in 5th, I'd be a little annoyed.>tzeentch in the startersure. They definitely need a decent sized release wave, almost all of the Daemon models need or wouldn't mind a replacement. Not something that would excite me but I'd be happy for Tzeentch enthusiasts
>>9483960940k got xenos 2 times in a row, and perhaps it's getting xenos for another time with 11th GW doesn't give a flying fuck about patterns, it's just throwing whatever it wants or whatever needs a release at the walland skaven are only nominally a chaos faction, let's be honest here, the overlap between skaven players and actual chaos warriors players, of any flavour, is minimal compared to the overlap between greenskins collectors or undead collectors
>freaky necromancers/wizards when?
>>94839650>GW wants the bad guy side to be hordey.correction, they want one side to be hordey, and it's usually the bad guys side because the good guys side is some kind of elite supersoldier, BUT stormcasts have reached critical mass in their range, there's evidently a saturation, and in their attempt to further separate them from marines they might go ahead and give them a more numerous lower rank of models, or even let someone else take the spot for one edition, perhaps cities of sigmar, or even fyreslayers or normal dwarfswhere GW once had a particular necessity to not have too much skin and faces on the starter because they realised people and especially newcomers were overwhelmed with painting skin and faces, now there's contrast paints that make that particular part of painting relatively easy.It is farfetched, I expect ogres as a normal release this edition, but it's to say that a lot of things are actually possible.
>>94839725GW said they need one side to be easy to paint for kids, like Space Marines, with little skin and lots of flat armor panels.My god, what if the next starter is OBR vs CoS because OBR will be the easy to paint children's faction?!
>>94839441You're the retarded faggot. Read a fucking book. How was he in 1e lit? How is he now? Fucking hurr durr he's out of the picture
>>94839542Ossiarch are an extreamly starter bait army. Noob can paint them battle ready with like 3 paints (light/dark blue contrast and bone contrast). GW would be retarded not to put them in a starter
>>94839755>How was he in 1e lit? dead, eternal and with a plan>How is he now?dead, eternal and with one and a half successful plans under his beltdo you really think nagash won't do anything ever again? how dumb can you be?
>>94839733>My god, what if the next starter is OBR vs CoS because OBR will be the easy to paint children's faction?!That would be a hilarious mirror of this edition's starter with the clean larger than life supersoldiers fending off the unwashed masses of humanoids trying to overwhelm them with numbers and guns
>>94839792My issue is that when OBR gets there 4th edition book they will probably only get a pity hero until 5th edition assuming im right. Im tired of how small the range is and its dominated by heroes. I dont know how IDK bros handle this neglect id say the same for fyreslayer fans but im sure all 12 of them are insane.
>>94838864>Would you consider manifestations frills?yeah. there might be a couple armies that are actually balanced around constantly having and casting manifestations but not ironjawz. if your regular opponents are StD and seraphon, a wizard might give you a chance to dispell for StD, but seraphon are usually going to be casting their manifestations at a +1 or +2 bonus from pretty substantial range, so im not sure how much a basic weirdnob would even be effective against them, and they would also have an unlimited unbind range to counter your spells if they are bringing a slann, or an unlimited unbind range with an unbinding bonus if they are bringing kroak.and looking at the ironjawz endless spells, they arent doing anything tremendously impactful. a bit of damage, a bit of casting buffs, and some objective denial. all pretty niche. fun, but not anything game breaking not to have. the regular spell lore and prayer lore you will miss more i think, with the standouts there being the teleport from hand of gork, and the get em beat to coin flip for a long charge. both are nice bonuses to have, but ironjawz are already fighting over hero spaces and with how good an ardboy boss and zogrokk are, its perfectly reasonable for them to edge out a wizard or priest. that said you want the wizard or priest they could just as easily replace zogrokk or the ardboy boss in teh previously mentioned list. the tower is a bit more impactful, a free 18" 1 dice penalty to charge rolls your opponent can do nothing about is strong, but it is a coinflip, and it does strongly urge you to have a hero who is just going to sit back in the tower, so its not the end all be all for ironjawz. you wont automatically lose games for not having it. i mean if money is no object, obviously get them all, it will help you to have them handy even if you dont always use em, but as far as what i would consider a priority, getting the bodies to actually put 2000pts of boots on the ground comes first
>>94839755Nagash literally ordered the dregeding of Lethis to get the elderbone stuff to make giga constructs and armies with. He then wanted Lethis destroyed and Katakros wants it destroyed too but won't admit he wants it gone. Zandtos is now in charge of taking the breached city.If you're talking about Teclis blasting Nagash apart so he had no ability to manifest in a physical body, then sure. But Teclis is also cursed and saying he isn't going to do anything because of the curse is silly. Nagash is 'alive' in the sense he gives orders, he just isn't marching about doing shit rn.
What scale do blood knight heads take? 32mm or 28mm?
How bad is it to not run the mortarchs in soulblight?I just don't like the model at all
>>94839831>Im tired of how small the rangeThis can be said for so many factions it isn't even funny>Fyreslayers (also what's a good abbreviation for Fyreslayers? FS?)>IDK>DoK>KO>Ogres (if not being squatted)>DoT>MoN
>>94839850Is vhordrai a mortarch?
>>94839865nothe current roster is>arkhan>katakros>olynder>manfred>neferata>ushorantraditionally, nagash likes having 9 mortarchs, so 3 still to go
>>94836442i dont even think this goblin is that particularly fat ,hes mostly just wearing a gutplate that seems to make him look more fat than he isWhich mind you i think thats intentional, as if the gitz themselves are looking back on gromm and saying "yeah, we should try to be more like that"
>>94839888>so 3 still to goI vote these>mistress of all flesh>a nameless wight king>shordemaire (as a joke)
>>94839933he's got a double chin, he might not be as rotund as grom, but that gobbo is the fattest after him and the dude on the alpha wolf
>>94839943honestly Shordemaire should be. It would also be really funny after Sunchompa, doing two mounted heroes where the mount is the real hero
>>94835228Bit of both. Of course nostalgia is hell of a drug, but due to technical limitations the designs of older works just had another flair going on for them. Of course they were goofy but it was all that was available at the time and people used their imagination to perceive them as more then just the 2D Sprite.Btw HoMMIII Necromancy is quite similar to WHFB Vampire Lords in Flair: Baroque Necromancy.
>>94840015I'm not really saying shordemaire should be the one in charge, between him and vhordrai, just that nagash values what he's done and what he's doing (reanimating draconiths in undeath) and is technically granting him lordship over them all on paper in the form of a title, even if he's actually not going to rule a real kingdom, because nagash has that kind of sense of irony
>>94840064Ideally both Shordemaire and Vhordrai should consider themselves the leader of the pair
>>94840064"What is my purpose" - "You reanimate your dead buddies but then need to carry that vampire around instead of doing dragon stuff" - "Oh my..."Yep, peak Nagash. I see this works out, you have my vote
>>94839943Considering Arkhan joined Katakros in leading the Ossiarch, it would be nice if SBGL got a Wight Mortarch to lead the bone brigade
>>94840094>but then need to carry that vampireI wonder if they're going to touch on how the two met or got in their current partnership, because I doubt nagash micromanaged that, and it certainly can't be vhordrai who got reanimated and is keeping the dragon under his control like a normal vampire would have done with a nameless mindless pile of dragon bones without will or agenda
>>94839943>>shordemaireHe's got the title too, lord of revenants, just has to change lord to mortarch.
>>94840160How did GW even decided to add Whoredrai? It wasnt an olda fantasy character, they didnt add new bits to the kit, did they just say "this specific zombie dragon build is now a completely new named hcaracter noone heard of before"?
>>94839943My bets are:Lady of Flesh (Deadwalkers)Nu-Kemmler (We still need to see the mortals of Death)Vyrkos Mortarch (SBGL)
>>94840274The character existed in the lore for many years before they decided to give him a Warscroll. They probably just decided that since they had built an entire dynasty around him they might as well attempt to make him actually playable. Also given the lead time for creating new models he probably only got a warscroll AFTER they started working on his new model.
>>94836907Felix had a wife and a daughter he never got to see
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