Previous Thread: >>96553376>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What is your favourite chaos-creating effect?
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>TQI love Decent into Avernus. Came up tonight in one of my games, just barely didn't win that game just coasting off of the treasures. I love "this game is on Fast Forward"I really need to tweak Tidus, after playing it a bunch, it has a lot of cards that sound cool but feel too slow in practice.
>What is your favourite chaos-creating effect?coveted jewel
https://moxfield.com/decks/agO2Q0AdjEy9q9PK-S5qTwIm trying to create an izzet commander damage deck. I like melek for copying pump spells but he's pretty weak and needs mana/library manipulation to pop off. I think veyran might be more reliable, how many spells copying effects would I need? I'm thinking cards like assault strobe, twinferno, balduvian rage, and harmonic prodigy are the type of things that can get me there. Right now it's kind of a ping you/make tokens strategy just for me to learn the color combo better.https://moxfield.com/decks/agO2Q0AdjEy9q9PK-S5qTw
Anons, I've been upgrading my Saruman deck and I need 3 extra cards to finish my 99. Do you guys have any suggestions? I thought about Bolas Citadel but I think I am going to keep it bracket 2The deck: https://moxfield.com/decks/6HMjofV1tUGgCxbjQM63vw
>>96571645>TQI like Chaos Warp. It's funny removing something strong and then watching as something even stronger gets manifested into the field.
>>965746395 ramp37 lands1 mdfc43 total.I usually make sure the total is closer to 47 especially because 1/4 of your deck is cmc 4 or higher.
>>96574392Personally, I'd go with a more aggressive costed commander and move the copy effects to the 99
>>96574663I missed some of the ramp, my bad
Dear deckbuilding websitesis it really that hard to give me the option of setting default prints to oldestI am getting so tired of changing it manually
So since spiderman shat all over the colorpie identityHow long until every single color gets a haste enabler?
>>96574860>tfw mass hysteria is actually a color shifted green card
>haha a fishing pole>I'm a fisherman lets see what it does>oh shit it actually goes in my intruder alarm deckwow
>>96574883NOOOOOthe pole taps not the creaturedamn you
>>96574889damn read it wrong a second timestill doesn't workhave a good weekend everyone, I am taking this as my sign to log off
>>96574883>>96574889>>96574895I also want to make a fishing pole deck just not sure how
>>96574787I wish they'd just not select any SLD/special prints at all. Going through my decklist and all of a sudden there's a fucking $60 card and I'm freaking out over budget and it's some goddamned unique art foil print on a 10 cent card
About to drop this badboy tomorrow.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96575082post linkbad eyes
>play against Valgavoth on mtgo 1v1>gets lightining greaves, mogis, fate unraveler out around turn 6>go to spectate another game>literal exact same board state on the same turnthis has to be a huge coincidence right?
>>96575082This deck looks hella fun, will it be your first time playing it IRL?
>>96575279https://archidekt.com/decks/15867879/want_some_free_draws_bro>>96575309First time with the new improved cards.
>>96575339i ran a few playtests of the deck, what are you hoping is in your hand once you get kami out on turn 2?
Much as I love this deck I think it'll be time to move on soon. What's my next deck?>Derevi Sticker Voltron>she's the "stickiest" commander, and in the colors for all the absolute best ticket counter cards>permanently make her a 10/10 with keyword soup>Melek big spells control>power out Melek and cast all the big swingy 5+ cmc counterspells once per player turn>Eriette, the Beguiler>stealslop with voltron backup wincon>Arna Kennerüd, Skycaptain>living weapon spamOr feel free to suggest something novel.
>>96575435Hopefully you keep it around for a while even if you aren't working on itits a cool deck.
>>96575452I tend to disassemble/reassemble decks as time goes on, even if I like the deck a lot. I've exclusively played commander since idk 2010? So I've always made a point of owning just one of a card.One of the reasons I keep the photos is so that I can reassemble the deck when I feel like playing it again though. There's a few low-powered decks I keep together that don't really compete for slots, but this isn't one of them.
>>96575432Scrawling Crawler, Spinx Tutelage and Iron Maiden. From my games, people usually leave you alone for up to turn 5, since they never consider you a threat until that point.
>>96575465I feel that
MailDay, MailDay.What did you recieve lately?
>>96574860It's called lightning greaves you dingus
>>96575522soon, hopefully
What happened? This thread is usually very quick.Don't tell me it was held up by like one guy/bot thats offline now
>>96575871In Amerishart it's peak work hours.
>>965758714chan lost half of its user after the hack
https://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/en-us/things-to-do/panels/panel-information.html?gtID=908894&panel-name=Nickelodeon-x-Magic-The-GatheringAre you guys ready for the Rugrats set?
>>96575891>>96575913Hasnt stopped the thread for at least the last month
>>96575947Off peak hours this thread can crawl sometimes anon
>>96575871It's friday, people are out playing
>>96571473I have an Atraxa Infect deck because I wanted to play infect, and genuinely I don't think it's too powerful at all. You end up painting the biggest target on your back and fall off hard in the mid-game because you have to fill your deck up with shit like 3 mana 2/2 flyers which is the kind of thing that can't compete with typical midrange EDH value decks. Very often I've taken someone out early but converting that to a win is very hard. Also fully going in on a late game Ichor rats proliferate plan doesn't work either because spending resources to proliferate constantly doesn't do anything for your board state or tempo and leaves you vulnerable to getting killed which people want to do anyway. its hard out here for us aggro chads.TL;DR Infect seems a lot scarier than it actually is, and if you went by winrates im sure the average infect deck wouldnt be out of place at your typical mid power table.
>>96575995>tfw the guys shitting up the thread weren't no gamers after allI guess I owe them an apology.
>>96575932Calling it now its Ninja Turtles.>Sonic Crossworlds>DLC is Spongebob, Avatar and Ninja Turtles>Spongebob Secret Lair>Avatar UB
>>96576009Yep, I have a Skrelv monowhite infect with all the cheap double strike creatures, and a personal rule that I can only win by proliferating every remaining player from 9 to 10 poison counters at the same time. Same problem: it's great against lower power decks but man does it fall behind fast
>>96576009People are afraid of Atraxa because content creators tell them to be. In reality it's one of the fairest, durdliest commanders in existence. And if you have spot removal before end step she's a literal 4 mana do-nothing.
So I posted this deck yesterday and I was pretty pleased with it but the more I look at it, the more I know it needs a change. The original gimmick was that it was a spiritual successor to a duels of the planeswalker deck and it still does that portion quite well, rely on basic lands, green ramp and multicolored creatures to win. At some point before brackets, I added non-basic land hate and that became the aspect I enjoyed the most. I still think the idea of a budget 5c land base playing ruination is funny. That being said, I can't help but feel like this deck has outgrown it's usefulness but I am having a hard time figuring out what to do about that. I'd love to keep playing a deck that plays a bunch of charms but I think the wincon package needs to change. Even back in 2016 when I put the deck together, rite of repping a broodmate dragon was cute but not a good wincon and its only gotten worse from there. Any suggestions? Maybe I revert to an older more charm based build and lean into domain more? https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-07-24-mana-mastery/
>>96575932So was the Avatar set not a one off but the start of a Nickelodeon run?
>>96575522Got foil of pic related
>>96576062Cute boomer deck but it is legitimately just a Pile. Depends what you would like to lean into. The deck is largely asynergistic.Is it the charms you like? Is it the random multicolored slop you like? Is Child of Alara a must in the command zone?
>>96576018Rocket Power, Legend of Korra or Good Burger
>>96576135I like child in the command zone, if for no other reason than its a 6/6 with trample. I like using cards like boros charm to sneak winsI also like Bound / Determined the the baby. >its just a pileyeah, it feels that way, maybe it always was but after removing ruination it is for certain. Ima try leaning into the charms more and see if that helps thanks.
>>96571492I like ub
>>96576166boo this man
>>96576165If you want to lean really heavily into charms, Ramos might be an even better commander.
>>96576176that's not a terrible idea, thanks.
>>96576166
>Curate my decks to be strong, but not broken>No game changers, no one mana tutors, no cards over 10 bucks>People with blinged out decks constantly mad telling me they are better at magic than me I just use busted decks, while they drop 50-80 dollar busted cardsGod I hate commander players. Why are the majority of them salty little bastards? It's not some affront to god to lose at a commander game to someone who looks normal.
>>96576259Some idiot sits down with a 5k deck and scoops when I play a Blood Moon and calls me a bad player.
>>96576259>telling me they are better at magicah it was so believable up to this point, everyone knows magic players don't have to spine to say something like this out loud.
>>96576259Your sense of superiority is just as annoying as theirs.
>>96576277especially because he's real and they are not
>I hold priorityThis is the most gay thing you can say in a table.
>>96576300how else would you describe it?Sometimes I do not want something to resolve before taking another action.
>>96576300I just say >Wait wait wait wait wait
>>96576300this is why I always tell the table when I intend to pass prioritythe default is that I am holding it unless I say otherwise
>>96576300I can count on one hand how many times I've heard this phrase in all my years of playing. People will just say something like "I'm gonna cast [spell] and then I'm gonna cast [other spell] too"
>>96576312I say ''WITH THAT ON THE STACK..."
>>96576162What would their stats be?
>>96576300It's better to not mention you're holding priority, because you can shark stupid players who blurt "UH IN RESPONSE" before you've made your decisions.
>>96576418>I say extremely gay thingwhoa whoa whoa there, you don't have to go and tell me about your red sock now
>>965764232GWETB create a food token for each creature on the battlefieldAt the beggning of your upkeep, you may distribute up to 3 food tokens to any target players. Create a Treasure token for each food token given to other players this way.2/2
>>96576423>tap: ORANGE SODA-- Create a Food token
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcYhYO02f98Decks for this feel?
>>96576926This is a banger knight tribal probably
>play Zur Eternal Schemer>go a couple turns without any enchantments I can play>”ugh I can do one thing but it basically just fucks us all”>one guy goes “if you say you can do something you should just do it. It’s rude to be like I can win the game but I won’t”>”but it doesn’t help me win it just fucks us all over”>”play the game”>ooooookay>Out of Time>activate Zur in response targeting Out of Time>all creatures phase out permanently>3 of us are now playing without out commanders>that guy looks moody for the rest of the game and occasionally complains he can’t do what he wants because he doesn’t have his commanderWho was in the wrong in this situation?
What absolute backwards spastic made a new thread early and then didn’t even link it in previous thread?
>>96576423Ed would be S-tier, dunno if he should be gruul or boros. He'd generate food tokens and have some kind of chaos effect based on how he constantly confuses and tilts his customers.Maybe>Ed, Hapless Cashier>RWWhenever an opponent casts a creature spell, create a Food Token>3R:Tap- Sacrifice any amount of food tokens. Gain control of target creature an opponent controls with converted mana cost equal to the amount of food tokens you sacrificed.
>>96577105one player gave you the go-ahead, did the other two say anything or just stare at lemurs
>>96577130Their reaction was basically “oh shit” and then later “I mean you did say to do it”One of them complained a bit about his deck basically doing nothing (he was deliberately playing low power) but he seemed to take it mostly in good spirits
>>96577121Ed would also have>whenever you sacrifice a food token, each opponent exiles the top card of their library. Until end of turn, you may cast those cards. Spend mana of any color to cast them.
>>96577138the guy who pushed for it was the only one with an issue? hilarious, maybe he'll think twice before speaking
>>96577105As a general rule I am a big hater of lockouts that don't advance the position of the one who plays them, huge nigger move if people didn't sign up for that kind of gameBut if you already got the go-ahead from your table that's 100% on them
>>96576926inniaz
>>96577226>maybe he'll think twice before speakingI hate to put it that way, but...yeah?I come from pods where it is very normal to speak your thought processes out.>hmmm I could do this, but I think I'm just better off doing...Etc.I'd gone a couple turns without affecting the board at all, so I just felt like explaining that I can play cards but they don't help me- and people can just ignore what I say, or use it as a springboard to talk about how their deck is doing this game, or stories that relate to that situation. That sort of thing.I had never heard someone say it's rude to say that you can do something but won't. And he pushed me to do it.>>96577263>As a general rule I am a big hater of lockouts that don't advance the position of the one who plays them,I mean same, that's why I made a point of saying it's the only thing I COULD do but I wouldn't. When he told me to, I even said it doesn't help me win it just fucks us all over. I was as clear as I could be that he didn't actually want me to do it.I don't think he really had any idea of how bad what I could do was. He asked to see the cards when I did it, so I guess he's never seen the interaction before
How do you decide which basics to use in your deck?Forgotten Realms/Baldur’s Gate lands would be thematic in my Erinis, Gloom Stalker deck, but then I’d have nowhere to put my og Zendikar full art Mountains
>>96577533>"I need 10 islands">pick 10 islands from the bulk in my collectionNo thoughts, no preferences. Just grab them and go
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>>96577533I'll usually use ones that are from the respective plane of my commander(s) for flavor reasons unless one fits equally well in aesthetic.
>>96577533Just go with the feel of the commander usually. Usually whatever plane they're from or one that feels right if it's unsure. Typically one art for all of them.
>$200 for a play booster box>for a shit set mechanically>for a soulless pos cashgrab setI feel like this is kind of the tipping point
>>96574860Crashing drawbridge? Why do tourists act like they care about the game
Do I:Patch up my Asmira deckWork on mono white landfall deckStart a new project (Maybe Kotis)If you dont have anything nice to say please dont reply ^.^
>>96577673They saw how eagerly FF fans opened their wallets and (very wrongfully) assumed that's how it's gonna be for every UB set from now on. Thing is, FF fans fucking L O V E all things FF and you're not getting that rabid fanbase reaction on anything else. I could see the main Marvel set getting good sales, but whew I bet they're gonna be real disappointed with the Spiderman sales
>>96577729The thing is that a good Spider-Man set probably would have done well. Or at least alright. Not Final Fantasy good or Lord Of The Rings good, but good. But this isn't what we're getting. We're getting the equivalent of the micro set like Assassin's Creed with the majority of the cards being mediocre. It's like the set was designed as a Jumpstart. Intended to be played against each other but without any of the notable cards Jumpstart sets often have among their themed cards.
>>96574860>I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MAGIClmao ok
How much would dual lands actually drop in price if they theoretically ever got rid of the reserved list?
>>96577781>1 in every 200 collectors packs!None. Price memory is a bitch investors refuse to take losses and pay pigs will always pig out
>>96577781only revised duals would drop in price and probably only by 100ish bucks since if they ever did reprint duals they would do it in the most greedy way possible with some over priced vintage masters set thats like 50$ a pack or some shit and the duals would be in the mythic slot
>>96577781Depends entirely on how it's done. If Wizards does it well for once and puts them in every precon ever going forward, every set too, then probably a decent amount. The original printings will still some value but the rest not so much.
>>96577781How far down did Imperial Seal come after being reprinted at just Mythic?
>>96577673Gonna get a box of Gundam myself>>96577703Asmira because she's cool
>>96571483>TQ: What is your favourite chaos-creating effect?Does Wheel of Fortune count? Favorite red card.
Anyone has experience using Abundance? Is it as good in practice as it appears? I'm thinking of putting it in my Terra, Magical Adept deck
>>96578096It's pretty useless in green unless you're going super hard on landfall. It takes a full turn before you get to use it. Compare Cultivate, which nets you a guaranteed land for this turn and the next, or Skyshroud Claim which gives you two right now.
>>96578096You will never get mana-flooded, or mana-starved with it out, at least.
>>96578096you'd prefer to just have another draw engine in most casesabundance doesn't develop a resource advantage for you
What does holding priority mean
>>96578179it means, with your own spell on top of the stack, you don't pass priority to the next player so you can put another action on the stacke.g. my flow of knowledge is going to resolve, so I hold priority and cast see double to copy the flow of knowledge
>>96578179responding to your own spell as its cast
>>96578179means you can't ask people if they have any counterspells and once they say no you would copy your shit
>>96578195What how does that work? They can steal priority from you by responding tho right?
Prediction for the next banlist?
>TQ: What is your favourite chaos-creating effect?Just putting the monarch into play. It's insane how people will wheel and deal over one card per turn
>>96578096It's fine. It was a key part of my funny 3-card combo of The Gitrog Monster + Borborygmos Enraged + Abundance to keep chucking lands at people.
>>96578250You get the first chance to respond after you put something on the stack, this is "priority". "Holding priority" means taking that chance. "Passing priority" means doing nothing with that chance and asking for responses before resolving the spell. If they respond, you get another chance to act after that.And the other player(s) can of course respond to the other spell(s) you cast when you hold priority. It's part of the risk; you hold priority to copy your flow of knowledge, but if your flow of knowledge is countered after you put see double on the stack then the see double will fizzle out.
>>96574860Haste has been evergreen since Equipment became a thing thi
>>96578250Priority always begins with the player who started the stack, and is never stolen, only passed around in order. Because priority is never stolen, players can respond to their own spells without allowing for reactions until they are done responding to their own spells. Once they're done responding to things, other players can respond.
>there are 19 artifact subtypes
>>96578278So you can avoid counterspells by holding priority and casting something you care less about? That's kinda retarded.
>>96578286no, the other players can respond after you put whatever things you put on the stack just as they can when responding to a spell cast aloneholding priority just means that you are the one who has first dibs on responding to your own spell- the other players don't lose their chance to respond, they just go after you.
>>96578286>So you can avoid counterspellsNothing in the game avoids counterspells unless it explicitly says "cannot be countered" or you have something out that says "they can't cast spells on your turn"
What's your favorite stax card? This is mine!
>>96578286Are you a Yugioh player? Unlike the chain you can put new things on the stack as it's resolving, and you can play a counterspell targeting something anywhere on the stack even if other things have been played on top of it.>>96578309Split Second.
>>96578362>Split Second.Fuck you're right, I knew I was forgetting something
>>96575932>>96576018>ninjitsu comes back>is this shit instead of more kamigawa
>>96578315step aside scrub and witness true oppression
>>96578362Yeah I played Master Duel for a while before, i thought the stack works exactly like the chain. I also saw Magic youtubers say they're identical I guess that's why i was confused.
>>96578315>>96578395I raise thee
>>96578421Functionally they are most of the time. However even if it worked like the chain, counterspells in Magic let you aim them at everything on the stack, not just the most recent spell. Think of it like using Imperm on the CL1 monster at CL3.
>find a commander while browsing>get really hyped to play it>build a deck online>order some of the cards>can't afford to buy entire decklists anymore, so plan to just buy a bit at a time>test on archidekt in the meantime>find a different commander>get hyped about that>prioritise building that one over the previous one>stop buying cards for the previous one>end up with dozens of cards for hypothetical decksWhy am I like this?
>>96578706ADHD
How strong would it be?
Spider-Man is cool
>>96578737Make it 8-10 mana with no built in cost reduction and its fair. This reads>win the game
>>96578737completely and utterly bustedthis is infinite mana and draw your entire deck as long as you have any crucible of worlds effectif it exiled lands you tap it would be more reasonable
>>96578706im about as autistic as you in that I made changes to my decks constantly and got bored with commanders too quickly, my solution was just to netdeck something for a while to force myself to just stick with something. Now I have a great go-to bracket 3 artifact deck that ive been playing for 6 months now and still haven't gotten bored of it at all.
>>96578737>>96578748and even then it would still be busted because you could just have a 95 land deck plus a win the game combo that activates on turn 3
>>96576300Same guy angry when people say "you"
>>96578737your deck is now 98 lands and thassas oracle, gg
>>96578737Even if the lands exiled on tap, 49 Islands, 49 Forests and a Thoracle.
>>96578763lol I'm glad I'm not the only one that instantly realized this. Thoracle or LabMan auto include to instantly win
>>96578759that guy is me and i say I hold priority almost every game
>>96578763>>96578764>>96578768thassas oracle really does fuck this format huh
>>96578773No YOU don't
>>96578774even if thoracle didnt exist that would still be a retardedly overpowered card
>>96578774Even without Thoracle, there's a dozen ways to make the deck just nintysomething lands and your combo pieces
>>96578737>what if tatyova with fastbond in the command zonelol
>>96578712Undiagnosed if true :(>>96578752I like most of the decks I have, the problem is I just constantly want more>Bruna self-mill auras would be so fun! She so niche but so powerful if I can swing with her!>Oh Sigarda human tribal would be so fun! I never see human tribal and it's so well supported!>Oh Trynn and Silvar human aristocrats would be so fun! I don't have any partner commanders!>Oh Adrix & Nev token spam would be so fun! That new card Moonlit Meditation would fit into it so well!>Oh Anikthea sagas would be so fun! I love saga creatures and hate UB, I could do "saga creatures at home"!Genuinely all decks I have looked at and started putting cards together for in the last 2 months alone
>>96578706You're just like me. I have about a dozen decks in the aether.
>>96578096I like it because it makes the nekusar player seeth.
>>96578774It's one of the very few cards that I wish never existed.
>>96578788Don't forget something to negate the 1 damage
>>96578737Are you retarded, anon? This would the most overpowered legend ever printed.
How do I make mono white work? It always feels way too slow for my pod.
>>96579185play cards that slow everyone else down as well
>>96579185What's the power level of your group?
>>96579185Your deck is too slow? the only solutions are to speed up (and play something like life gain aggro), or make everyone play as slow as you. Eidolon of Rhetoric, High Noon, Deafening Silence, Archon of Emeria, etc. Staxmaxxing is the only thing monowhite really has in terms of strong decks.
>>96579185>>96579198Removal and Hatebears. Run Odric, Master Tactician to keep them safe and to remove the other players utility creatures.
>>96579198>and play something like life gain aggroLiterally what I am trying and it is too slow regardless of how wide or weenie intended.Honestly it seems to primarily be an issue with early draw and ramp. Unless I am missing things, white doesn't have much draw that'll hit before turn 3. And much of it is conditioned on something. So even with plenty of draw, it starts too late to really solve the issue. Ramp is a similar issue.>>96579198You need an established board state by turn 4.
>>96579227Play catchup stuffKnight of the White Orchid, Sand Scout, Ambitious Farmhand, Weathered Wayfarer etc along with bounce lands and lotus field to ensure you'll have fewer lands than your opponents. Maybe even roll with Beza as commanderYou don't need card draw before turn 3 in ur weenie deck anyway, you're not going to run out of cards fast enough for that.
>trying to make a new Nekusar deck for cheap>while goldfishing cant seem to get it to work>swap the land base out for ridiculous expensive shit>deck works a million times better nowIs landbase the most prohibitive shit when it comes to deck building?
>>96579299there is no reason at all not to just proxymaxx when it comes to lands
>>96579299It's by far the most shilled part and it's not even close. You can make viable, budget manabases, but people on here refuse to give up their shock/fetch lands
Is it possible to create a commander deck using only the Spider-Man cards?
>>96579329considering there is a 5c legend and more than 100 cards in the set i would say yes
>>96579329Only? No. Mainly Spider-Man cards? Yeah. A villain deck is gonna use a lot of cards from the set.It's probably gonna blow though.
https://moxfield.com/decks/33PMyuYl-EigD5aUaA5HSAAny suggestions for additions and/or cuts for this deck? I'm keeping it high bracket 3.
>>96576045People aren't really afraid of Atraxa more that they're just tired of seeing her. For a few years you couldn't play a game without someone putting down their Totally Original Atraxa Build onto the table.
>>96576045im afraid of atraxa because its always superfriends decks that need 20 minutes to take 1 turn that accomplishes nothing
Has anyone built Eshki? Is she any fun? The fact that she cares about creature power on cast had me looking up some dumber than average cards for her but it looked like it could devolve into a Goodstuff pile easily.
What's that site that lets you pick any mtg card art and get a playmat of it? I thought it was ultra pro but I don't see it
>>96579553you've only got three sources of extra land plays and one play lands from gy, though you have a bunch of one-shot splendid reclamation effects.does kavaron do much for you?I was going to say dryad arbor for GSZ but it was in the lands column instead of creatures.is your wincon to get hearthhull online and sac everything?you are running incredibly low to the ground here, you could honestly even cut sol ring. related, how much is valakut exploration usually hitting people for?
Whenever anyone in my playgroup plays a gamechanger inevitably someone will say "game changer alert".
>>96578096I like it. Helps fix a turn's draw often enough which can really make a difference. And that it lets you swap out for every draw does make a difference depending on what your opponents have on board.
>>96579185Depends completely on the commander. Which did you want to use?
>>96579624I'm so thankful my friends don't play expensive bullshit cards. One time someone showed up with a proxy Smothering Tithe and we all talked so much shit at him about it to where he took it out and we've never seen it again
>>96579651This is unironically how a social format should police itself.
>>96579651Not all game changers are expensive.
>>96579567Played against her a couple of times. She's pretty insane. Though she also does feel like she would naturally lend herself best to just a big pile.
>>96579656>Braids is less than 50 cents>Notion Thief less than $1Yeah true, but the vast majority of them are. And we've agreed that expensive cards are, largely, fucking retarded
>>96579612I've only tested through goldfishing at this point, so difficult to answer some of your questions. Though yes, the game plan is to win from an enormous rush of sacrificing lands, returning them, repeating them as needed to kill tbe table.>playing lands from the graveyard Yeah, I probably need another few instances of these. Ideally, strapped to a creature. Ramunap Excavator seems like the best choice as it tutors off everything in the deck>Kavaron Probably the weakest utility land in the deck. Could easily be cut for something else. Maybe Command Beacon as Hearthhull is very important to winning. Of course I could include Glacial Chasm but I'm trying to keep this bracket 3.>sol ringYeah, it could go in favour of some other land-to-battlefield ramp spell. Any suggestions?>valakut explorationNo idea what its damage output potential is at this stage of testing. It is a great card advantage engine however.
>>96579651I am glad my group isn't like this. We had someone come in and try to whine about game changers and shit and made it very clear they should find another group.
>TQ>What is your favourite chaos-creating effect?Define chaos creating effect
>>96579672an effect that creates chaos
>>96579674Timesifter then
>>96579553>>96579612>>96579668Made a few changes:>CutSol RingMayhem DevilKavaron Strip Mine>AddedRamunap Excavator RestoreKessig Wolf RunInkmoth Nexus
>>96579713>cut sol ringCRINGE
>>96579713>Cut>Sol Ringbased
>Make a fuckton of blue mana with Uthros>Hmm, what do I even have to spend it on? I guess I can make a duplicate karnstruct with Worldwalker, or>remember I have Memnarch on the field.
>To cast a split card, choose one of its halves to cast. There's no way to cast both halves of this split card. Ohhhhh what the fuck? My pod has been allowing being able to play both halves for years if at least one is an instant. If both are sorceries we don't allow it of course, but we always thought both halves can be played if the timing rules are followed. Has it always been like this??
>>96579668Obviously there's crucible, but nothing you're running searches it. Ramunap works with GSZ and imperial recruiter, yeah. Technically so does perennial behemoth, but he's 5 mana, the unearth is a little compelling though. You could replace sol ring with arboreal grazer or elvish pioneer, if you want to replace a 1drop with a 1 drop. You could also do broken bond, or heck even Explore. Aside from that, you're running nature's lore and three visits but not farseek.Do you have any options if you get bojuka bog'd?Titania can give you a winning boardstate, but only if your engine is already going.Unless I'm missing one (1), you're running valakut with exactly five (5 (four other)) mountains.
>>96579713>cut sol ringabsolute mad man
>>96579713>Kessig Wolf Run It amazes me how few people run this land when they have those colors. It's fucking fantastic
>>96579713>cut sol ringabsolute glad man>>96579752that's a cute houserule, but yeah, it's always been like this. you can't take cards from the stack and cast them.
>>96579769>it's always been like thisfucking WHOOPS. Now I'm wondering what the hell else we've been fucking up all this time>you can't take cards from the stack and cast them.Yeah I mean we've been doing the "pay for both halves at the same time" thing, so we're not *technically* taking it from the stack, we're putting both halves on the stack at the same time
>>96579753>farseekI considered that, but it enters tapped and usually when I'm wanting it for ramp I won't have a way to have the land enter untapped. I'll try Restore and if that is shit, I'll just switch to Farseek. Arboreal Grazer is also a decent suggestion (1 drop for 1 drop). The elf is good synergy with Nissa, but it only does basics.>ValakutIf I have Dryad of the Ilysian Grove out, it hits for insane damage.>options in case theres graveyard hateUnfortunately not, I am open to suggestions. Something like Gaea's Blessing, but at instant speed?
>>96579768Insane with Inkmoth Nexus, too. Kills out of nowhere.
>>96579713Anon told him to cut the Sol Ring and he actually did it, the absolute mad man!!
>>96576131Patrician taste, going to scoop some up before it skyrockets.
>>96579553Here is the updated list, bros.https://moxfield.com/decks/33PMyuYl-EigD5aUaA5HSA
>>96579752>sorceries we dont allow of courseThis is funny cause. Youre just mistaking all split cards with fuse cards.
>>96579800>he cut the sol ringmad lad, you aren't allowed to add it back ever
>>96579801Fuck! That's absolutely where we got the idea from, good lord thank you this was KILLING me
>need to cut 1 card>can'tIs there a worse feeling?
>>96579806Yes:>need to cut 1 card>can't>your pet not-actually-very-good card is among the candidates for removal
>>96578096Everyone has missed the key thing about this thingIt's anti mill tech
>guy casts tempt with discovery>'don't give him 4 lands'>I cast tempt with mayhem on a finale of revelation, x = 15>no one copies it because the guy that cast tempt with discovery bitches hard out and says don't let me draw 60>he has 0 cards in hand>offer you cant refuse the original>lol thx >4 cards between the three of my opponents>aethersnap (squirrel player, proliferate player in tears)>drop sheoldred, they have to sac their commandersI've never seen so much baby rage in one game now that I think on it. If you have the chance to draw 15 cards and no max hand size the rest of the game - but your opponent draws 15 more cards while you have an empty hand, would you draw?
>>96579810>your pet not-actually-very-good card is among the candidates for removalI'd rather kill myself.
>>96579567Oh boy yes, she is TONS of fun.My Russian steppe wife made me win 4 out of 7 games against my friends playing nasty-ass shit like Tifa, Yuriko, Giada and Jetmir earlier tonight. I've spent about 60~ish freedom coins upgrading the precon while trying to keep it in-theme to dragons as much as possible.The idea is to cast 6+ power shit as often as you can to burn your opponents repeatedly and whenever possible grant her a large amount of +1/+1s and trample so she can burn for a ton then finish the job via combat damage. You need to be aggresive in your plays and ALWAYS have a way to ramp in your opening hand, mulligan to 5 cards if you must.Boardwipes of choice are damage-based so she and the dragons can survive them more often than not and dragons snowball insanely quickly if left unchecked so even if she gets targeted repeatedly that just means your opponents get ran over by a dozen flying, double striking, trampling creatures. Here's my decklist: https://archidekt.com/decks/16129840/bad_dragon_baddieThere's a couple extra cards in there because I keep flip-flopping about what to cut. Also the enchantments are your best friends if you can pop them in early and they survive even a couple of turns, and I've talked about picrel before but it's won me more games than I can remember and it's always hilarious to watch your opponents deliberate on how they want to die.
>>96579800>killing the table with huge instance of damage that isn't infiniteslop SOVL
>>96579806>sort by mana>highest cost card goesHow I do it most of the time
>>96579837>implying I'd ever remove Teferi's Protection or Worldfire
>>96579840>WorldfireFUCK YEAH
>>96579773>it only does basicsAh whoops, missed that.Blessed Respite is the MH2 reference to Gaea's Blessing, then there's always Elixir of Immortality (not that good), Feldon's Cane, uhhhhhhhhhhh be funny and hit people with CosmogoyfDo the bounce lands help your landfall triggers, or do you think it would be better with smoldering marsh/vernal fen/the other one? or/also riveteers overlook is a free sac/extra landfall.Random thought, do you own this precon, or are you buying the cards from it separately? A few of these suggestions seem to be in the precon.
>>96579842>changes the game more than almost every single other card ever>not a Game Changer (tm)
>>96579848Because it is MLD and is automatically bracket 4 where a card being a game changer no longer matters.
>>96579810>>96579825I found myself doing this more and more because my sweatlord pod does nothing but optimizing the fun out of everything. They don't even have pet cards, for they have no soul also>mfw someone's pet card is just a relatively recent format wide goodstuf staple.crd
>>96579842One of the best big mana spells in Magic and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
My new pet card
>>96579846>elixirActually not too bad, as it is tutorable through Urza's Saga which I will be aiming to get into play ASAP through Crop Rotation, Sylvan Scrying etc, as most of the time it will grab the Amulet of Vigor>bounce landsThey're in there because of the ways in which I can have lands enter untapped, and their good synergy with Amulet of Vigor and Horizon Explorer, allowing them to tap for 2 mana then return themselves. >do I own the pre-con?No, I don't. I have a lot of these cards, just need to find a way to get a few of the more expensive ones (Squandered Resources and Burgeoning are at the top of my Want trades list). I haven't actually even looked at the decklist for the pre-con, truth be told. Probably should do that.
>>96579856>not having pet cards with soulCouldn't be me. I've put them in every deck I've built going back like a decade
>>96579867>elixir Feldon's Cane is just straight up better, my bad.
Did anyone here actually go to Spiderman pre release? It was super dead compared to other sets in my area. People overall seem to dislike the set a lot
>>96579856>had to cut pet cards to keep up with tryhard podweep for this man
>Spiderman commandersThese all feel kinda lame compared to the FF ones. Like did they even try at all here?
>>96577781Depends entirely how rare they are. The revised ones would drop a fuckton as people would try sell out of them knowing that more reprints will come.A/B prob would barely move. Unlimited is harder to gauge.
>>96579837but mycosynth golem never costs 11!
Anyone run semi-blue lately? Was looking at rog thras lists but idk over vial thras or yoshi thras
If Wizards was to ban the partner mechanic today, what would be the top 5 cEDH decks?
>>96579908KinnanTivitMagdaKenrithNajeela
>>96579908Urza
>>96579908>If Wizards was to ban the partner mechanic todayI would be sad because I'm finally making progress into the 4c decks in the 32 deck challenge and Partner is the only thing making it possible (I hate the single card options)
>>96579856>dude I love Orcish Bowmasters, I dominated with it on arena, i put him in every deck, he is literally my petfoul
>>96579816>If you have the chance to draw 15 cards and no max hand size the rest of the game - but your opponent draws 15 more cards while you have an empty hand, would you draw?Yes, because that game is already basically over unless the guy already drawing 15 is about to die anyway
>>96579887The set is just really weak. Sets don't need to be completely explosive but when there isn't any cards to be interested in then there will be no interest in the set.
>>96579887Going on Saturday. They sold out of a few of the pre-releases here. My lgs has 40 spots per
>>96579856Pet card coming through
>>96579908Would too much change? There's some big name partner commanders but the big problem commanders do it on their own usually.
>>96579943God I love this card so so so much. Grabbed this foil cuz it's so fucking good
>>96579957It's a bit too goofy for my tastes but any thing in the ice appreciator is a bro of mine
>>96579972
>>96579943This guy is pretty awesome. Been working on Orvar lately and I like the constant threat he provides while you make your copies of rocks and other stuff with Orvar. Extra copies of The Thing In The Ice too to keep up pressure.
>>96580093I like this idea and will now add it to my orvar deck
>>96579859>not a single White person in that "art".>friendly(((they))) aren't even trying to hide it.
>>96580190Peter Parker is white.
>>96580116That Orvar is a changeling does a surprisingly large amount for him.
Going to cheat in some more bracket 3 games tonight. Which setup should I use?>Staple Surprise>Show and Science>Enchantment Removal>Ruling Reprieve
>>96580295What does any of this mean
>>96579800Deck looks fun. Only thing I'd suggest is cutting 1 forest for a snow-covered forest as it is another land name for your FotD.
>>96580299Think of it like a Henry Stickmin game where you have to choose an option and I describe how it plays out.Turn 1 Smothering Tithe into a turn 2 wheel. Amass control of the game accordingly with 21 mana on turn 2. Play as many top EDHrec cards as possible.Turn 2 Grand Abolisher, turn 3 Show and Tell into Omniscience. Create an unbreakable pillowfort before slowly playing stax pieces that grind the game to a halt but don't advance towards a win.Tinybones from the 99 into a discard engine. Donate Zur's Weirding to an opponent and play Tamiyo, Collector of Tales so nobody can draw cards except me.Get 3 copies of Isochron Scepter onto the field. Imprint them with Reprieve, Mana Drain, and Unsubstantiate. Resolve Teferi, Time Raveler and Rule of Law. Keep a Nimble Obstructionist ready for anyone trying to be cheeky with a Kamigawa land.
>>96580322I love isochron sceptre so definitely ruling reprieve
>Volrath, the Shapestealer + Devoted Druid + Chronotog
>>96580337ok I block with my 2/2
I like playing decks that one shot all my opponents, but no one seems to like it, even if I hold off on doing it until like turn 10, what gives!
Thread is getting slow and boring...Universes Beyond. Discuss.
Ya got schemes? I got schemes!
>>96580322What is stopping your opponents from just walking away from the table due to your antics, anon?
>>96579887I went to one. Prereleases at my local store generally get 40+ attendants The spiderman prerelease had fewer than 20 people.
>>96579887I went to play EDH, and there were more people there for that than the pre-release lol
Is there any rakdos commander that does not scream TARGET ME!
>>96580601it's a psychological thinglet's compare damage to say purchases. most woudn't spend like hundreds on cards in one go but buying singles over the year can easily rack up that number since buying in smaller increments doesn't feel that bad. kinda like why microtransactions are so popular.so I'd argue in-game damage can feel the same way. people leave a player alone for as long as they are not a problem but if you become the problem in one go then it's too latetldr:they are bad at threat assesment
What commander he playing?
>>96580190Anon the guy in the foreground to the right of the art is clearly white, he's just in shadow.
>>96580675
>>96579567I pulled her in the sample pack thing with one of the other decks and built her as a pile of craws and dreadmaws using random draft chaff I had laying around. I don't have a single dragon in the deck, which tends to catch people off guard since she was in a dragon tribal precon. She's a lot of fun, feels like she has a lot of voltron style qualities while also wanting to go wide. Very fragile lynchpin though, so you're going to want to pack a lot of protection so she doesn't die as soon as she's about to do something. She very quickly becomes a removal magnet, but starts off pretty non-threatening looking, so people tend to remove her once you've already invested some time into building her up but before she's able to start blasting everyone for a lot of damage.
Which creature should I cut to add Bob in Y'shtola precon: Tataru Taru or Hildibrand Manderville?
Does a stationed spaceship keep it's charge counters if it goes to the command zone?
>>96580794no. nothing but skullbriar keeps counters when changing zones in the game
>>96580794Nah, you need to crew it again.
>>96580792Taru for obvious reasons
>>96580805>obvious reasonsLalafell segregation?
>>96580322>>96580295Genuinely one of the gayest posts I've read in this thread. I hate zoomers so fucking much
2nd best card in the FF set btw
Why does he do it?
>Wait a minute, let me count the cards in your deck. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97...this deck isn't legal! This guy is a cheater!Your reaction?
>>96580965søymilk and somehow that guy was allowed to teach.think about that for a sec.
>>96581070>Your reaction?i dont let anyone touch my cards to begin with>what if they are playing "mr steal yo girl" archetype?!still not touching my shit.simple as.
Will they make a new version in the Lorwyn set?
>>96581087You sound like an exhausting, miserable person.
>>96581087>I cast Gonti and look at the top four cards of you libr->DON'T TOUCH MY CARDS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>96581070Oh no! Anyway...
I've had an autistic hyperfixation on this card and weapons manufacturing. Any commanders that would best use this? I don't want artifact comboslop. Also, no Breya, no Dr. Eggman, and no Ragost, Reddit Gastronaut
>>96581125There is a cool rakdos commander called Imskir Iron Eater if you like those colours
>>96581125>no Dr. EggmanI genuinely don't get why Dr. Eggman decks have such a hardon for this card, yes it's a huge CMC Robot you could cheat out but most Dr. Eggman decks go tall not wide and play artifact creatures not noncreatures artifacts
Just got raped by someone cheating out a hasted annihilator 10 Ulamog the Defiler with Ardyn on Arena.Think i'm gonna have to build this in paper.
>>96581161>ArdynSorry, this thread is Universes Within only. You'll have to leave. Don't come back.
This Green Goblin villain tribal deck shouldn’t be working as well as it is and I’m shocked.
>>96581178I don't see anything
>>96581198I can post the list in a bit.
>>96580965He is just a dishonest and a legit shill for wotc.
>>96581370I actually believe he is controlled opposition.
>>96578706I agree with >>96578712 I got medicated recently and building decks is way easier now but there's still ones that are such massive headaches I basically don't bother. Building brawl decks on arena still sucks tho
>>96581198This is what I’m running. I still need the Venom from the welcome deck. The main set one is too dogshit even by this decks very low standards.
is this game going to go back to making Magic sets mostly or are they not finished cucking out with other IPs yet? I was just about done after they printed Blackagorn so I've been checked out for a while, I'm sure it's not gotten better.
>>96580619Nothing, but it's a group of wannabe pubstomper trannies so they won't scoop for anything because they really, really want to beat me. It's a fun opportunity to goldfish Christmas hands AND make hoes mad.
>>96581559Motherfuckerhttps://archidekt.com/decks/16135789/goblin_mode
>>96581565No. We just got an awful Marvel set with an implication we're getting 6 more.
>>96580929Thats just removal bait.
>>96581572shit... I wonder how Yugioh's doing these days...?
>>96580965If you’re being intellectually honest and not a shitheel, he tells people that the set is bad but also KNOWS that people are going to buy it anyway so he helps those that do since that’s his job and what he likes to do.
>>96581572The implication isn’t that the other 6 will be awful. I assume they are overhauling the Beyond Booster shit they planned and after this dogshit of a set they will put more effort into the other. Really sad that Spider-Man had to be the sacrifice. Talk about Park Luck.
>>96571483>TQHumility. You might say it’s not a chaos card… resolve it once. Hot take: I wish they would unban Upheaval. I’ve very rarely scooped to an overloaded cyclonic rift, there’s still a chance to make it sometimes; however I would be mentally ok with scooping to Upheaval. Lands make the difference and I think I’m not alone either in this thinking. Currently making and testing a 5c Sunforger tribal deck with 50 targets for the sunforger which is actually the secret commander. Child of Alara as commander for now; might swap it for Atogatog to be more thematic.
>>96579800Looks like a fun deck! I got both EoE precons and just finished upgrading Kilo. I'm now working on upgrading Szarel as the commander and your list certainly gave me a lot of options to consider. I own most of the bond lands and Overgrown Tomb but none of the fetch lands. It seems like they are necessary for the bugman due to the sac triggers. Or are there cheaper options? I try to limit myself to $250 per deck. Thanks again for posting the updated list.
>>96581577no u
good to see the reddit magic community is still as faggoty as ever
>>96579567>Attractive female>LesbianWhy does JotC do this?
>>96581824Having a wife doesn't necessarily mean she's a lesbian. Bisexuality exists.
>>96581577That means its strong anon..>>96581832Except it doesnt.
>>96581794Imagine being old lmao
>>96580929I never realized this guy doesn't have flying. Thought for sure he'd have it by default. Been meaning to build him.
>>96581092Probably? But it will likely follow the new designs for goblins they've been doing. Given the anime art treatment.
>>96581885Why? Goblin design is plane specific.
>>96581611>Talk about Parker Luck.It really is. It's impressive how shit this set so far has proven to be. Even knowing how incompetent Wizards can be I have to imagine they'll have to learn from this and make the following sets better.
>>96581895How did Ravnica afford giving all Goblins free nose surgery?
>>96581572There's no implication we're getting 6 more. At most we're getting 5 more but that's very unlikely. 3 more is the most likely amount to me (X-Men, Avengers/General, Fantastic Four/Cosmic).
>>96581611Spider-Man was, to my knowledge, the only Marvel set that started as a small set, so the other Marvel sets won't have the design issues SPM did.
>>96581901I have no idea what youre talking about
>>965819146 infinity stones + gauntlet.
>>96581895It's supposed to be but we've already seen Krenko redesigned in his later arts.
>>96581794This is so fucking funny because I was born in 87 and it was actually the trend in the late 90s/early 00s to put your birth year at the end of usernames. But the youth these days apparently doesn't know this
So I pulled an Anti-Venom at a prerelease yesterday and apparently this is one of the most popular commanders of this set but I'm not sure I understand why. It seems to me like the deck can only do one thing, equip your commander with a pariah effect and give it some form of protection, either waiting around to be able to do all that in a single turn under a silence effect or praying that you somehow survive a rotation without any interaction thrown your way.Am I missing something or is it actually bad? I looked up some gameplay videos of it and it just seems to confirm what I suspect, you basically do nothing but cast your commander and see it being removed all game.
>>96582010He's also mono-white reanimator which is quite uncommon.
>>96582010>If damage would be dealt to Anti-Venom, prevent that damage and put that many +1/+1 counters on him.There's *a lot* of damage redirection tricks in white. Hell, these are straight up free>you basically do nothing but cast your commander and see it being removed all game.Welcome to the wonderful world of Kill on Sight commanders! Good thing white has a shitload of instants with "creature gets hexproof/indestructible until EoT"
>didn't pull Green Goblin during my prereleaseIts over... at least the prices look to be cratering. My only mythic was Gwenom, hopefully i can offload her for Norman
>>96582031Dude it's an uncommon, relax. It's not going to cost you much. Even if you're talking about that hybrid rakdos one it's still not going to be an expensive rare.
>>96582045What? The flip version, anon, obviously. I'm talking about swapping gwenom for him
>>96582045Norman is a mythic. It’s going for 15 right now but it WILL drop
>>96580792Every single Dark Confidant printing is cool. One of the rare cards where i don't mind any print
>>96581929They can very easily do 2-3 of those per set.
>>96582133and yet those only chose to release one.
>>96580965It must be a fascinating life for people who tie themselves to an IP and become millionaires just talking about it on the internet. What do you do when you hate it? You still have to churn out slop or it's back to your day jobHe even complained about that, I think in a Tarkir unboxing. He was bitching that if he doesn't run ads for sponsors he can't afford to run the channel
>>96582150>You still have to churn out slop or it's back to your day jobThat's the thing with """""influencers""""", turning out slop nonstop day after day is a requirement of the job. You NEED to be pushing trash after trash after trash because it's all about the "engagement"
>>96582150he's a millionare?
>>96579299You're just not paying attention to your pips and color leans while building multicolor. If you can't make a functional three color without fetches and duals you need to start thinking more during the build about when you're casting things and if you have enough time to get all those pips by then. You can run three color all-basics decks if you just have the right proportions of them and mulligan correctly.
>>96582170Almost certainly. Youtube pays like you wouldn't believe. Here's the estimates on socialblade, bear in mind he's likely at the higher end of the earnings because he's been around so long. And then factor in the fact that sponsor segments are about 10k a pop (Mr Beast discussed this, it's how he was able to do 10k prizes in the early days, although now he gets 100k sponsors).He may not have $1M in liquidity, especially if he spends like a retard, which it sounds like he does. But yeah, living within his means for say 5 years, he could save to $1-2M very comfortably.
>>96581070Knock his teeth out if he just grab my shit without asking permission
>>96582183>If you can't make a functional three color without fetches and dualsYou don't even need fetches, anymore. Wizards has printed so many cheap duals that budget 3c manabases are very easily done. Filter/check lands are all you really need, nowadays, and if you're in black like Nekusar, the Tainted lands are very good
>>96579887there was no commander because the prerelease had too many people, never saw that happen before.
>>96581794I don't get it
>>96582212That guy was born in the year 1988. So he put 88 in his username. A reddit mod saw that and thought it symbolizes "Heil Hitler" as H is the 8th letter of the alphabet and right wingers use 88 as a code sometimes.
>>96582212Dipshit mods think the 1988 birth year in his username is a Hitler/nazi reference. 14 and/or 88 are very common nazi/white supremacy dog whistles
>>96582201The channel is not just one guy, there's a whole staff to run it
At my LGS there's a 14th Doctor in the display case and its price tag is $88.
>>96582248I know he "employs" 1 troon but I don't know how many other "staff" he has.In any case, it's absolutely a channel he could be running by himself. I don't know why these people get such disproportionate ideas in their heads about what it is they do.The Quartering and Pirate Software are two other people who will bring up the fact that they "employ" people whenever the money starts getting short. Its a poor financial decision. It's completely retarded. You are not a business, you are some asshole talking to a camera and you do not need staff to help you sit on your ass at home.
What's the most chuddy dogwhistle deck one could build?
>>96582227What the hell is a “dog whistle”
>>96582298Pretty funny, but probably a real price
>>96582201There's no way MrBeast only gets 100k for a sponsorship, Asmongold gets more for a single sponsored stream and he is magnitudes smaller than Beast
>>96582304Dog whistles are special whistles on a frequency that humans can't hear, but dogs can. They're used for training and stuff. "Dog whistle" as the term means "a phrase or reference that only those 'in the know' will understand". 1488 is a very real nazi reference, so nazis/white supremacists will pepper in the numbers 14/fourteen and/or 88/eighty eight in their stuff as a "teehee I'm being secretive!!!" note/sign to other nazis
>>96582304Leftoid term for when they're jumping at shadows.Dogwhistles are only audible to dogs, so the idea is that the right includes terms and codes to signal to other rightwingers. Here "88" is being mistaken for "1488" which refers to the 14 words, and 88 being the 8th letter of the alphabet for "Heil Hitler"Of course anything can be a "dogwhistle" to these people, including just not using lefty-approved terminology
>>96582304It's something people make up so they can latch on something to be offended about and then use that as an excuse to not converse with you. It's basically acting like a little bitch.
>>96582138Yes. For the smaller set, where it was possibly not even in the initial 100 cards.
>>96582301every card with nonwhite hate in the rules text
>>96582304The best part about dog whistles is when those that actively use them end up panicking about being found out, like these two:>>96582325>>96582328
My LGS knows i'm a fascist and nobody minds, even the local troon knows he shouldn't sperg out about it or he'll just catch annoyed eyerolls from everyone.
>>96582340way to prove the second guy right lmao
>>96582354Case in point.
>>96582328>and then use that as an excuse to not converse with you.Or persecute you.Just look at the shit with Charlie Kirk. Extremely moderate guy, would platform and befriend blacks and gays, literally said conservatives need to accept gays or they will all go to the left- but none of it was enough. People celebrating his murder will just lie about his belief as post-hoc justification to kill him, often using """dogwhistles""" as proof that no matter what he actually said or did he was evil>>96582340>not agreeing with my delusions is panicking!!!!!Ask your doctor to change your anti-anxiety med dosage and explore switching to an anti-psychotic. I am not saying this to insult you, I am serious that an anti-psychotic will is more appropriate for the stress you feel from an imaginary political war
>>965823652nd case in point.>Extremely moderate guypfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffftthahahahahahahaha
>>96582372Enjoy the mass graves buddy.
>>96582301Human tribal maybe? Since for whatever reason leftoids constantly make the case that humans in fantasy are code for white people and other fantasy races are code for other real races eg Orcs
>>96582383>>96582338See i was thinking that, but nuwizards makes every other white human card brown and ugly now.
>>96582372>but none of it was enough. People celebrating his murder will just lie about his belief as post-hoc justification to kill him, often using """dogwhistles""" as proof that no matter what he actually said or did he was evil
>>96582390obviously you proxy the browns back into people
So uhh, magic the gathering elder dragon highlander aka "commander", amirite?How do we feel about this "writer's barely concealed fetish" character?
>>96582390It's true, it's true.I don't know what to tell ya bud. Maybe pic related and keep making jokes about genocide?
>>96582404No idea why that's a rare. That is a bloated uncommon text box.
>>96582404What's the fetish here? I really don't see it
>>96582410Coom hands I guess
How much should "You may play any number of lands from your hand this turn" cost?
has anyone played on Tabletop Sim? What do I need to do for that?
>>96582409Creating a token with every creature is pretty good, basically a more fair Edgar Markov
>>96582416your firstborn
>>96582404It's capeshit and therefore I hate it and will bully you for playing it at my table>>96582410>>96582413Her lore is fetish bait, she has some kind of horny pheromones thing that only affects spider-mans.
>>965824162
>>96582416Fuck off custom cardfag. Since it's just a "win on the spot" effect on-par with things like Tooth and Nail it should be a 7-8 mana sorcery. It can't be on a creature ever.
>>96582381>>96582391Go back to /pol/
>>96582410>her real name is Cindy Moon>she's a korean-american halfie>she was conveniently bitten by the same spider that bit Peter Parker>after that she spent like a decade inside a bunker overloading in pop culture references and learning to do wizard-level shit and complex shapes with her webs unlike spiderman's basic thwips>the moment she comes out she finds Peter and they suddenly get the urge to fuck untill exhaustion whenever they are remotely close due to their pheromones overloading>this was all written by a known yellow-fever writer with a breeding fetishCard effect doesn't really reflect this beyond maybe the popping out tokens thing being a breeding joke?
>>965824164, 2 if it has some hindrance
>>96582448it could totally be on a creature providing it has a mechanic like Myojins have to prevent the ability from working if not cast from hand
>>96582448>Ramp if you have lands in your hand is an instant win buttonI guess Summer Bloom is OP now for having essentially the same text at 2 mana.Now if it drew you cards and was a static ability on a legendary...
Question, if I exile the top of my library and it was a land and there's an effect saying "you can play the exiled card this turn" but I already played a land from my hand this turn, can I still put it on the field?
>>96582473no
>>96582455Dan Slott's barely-disguised fetish is, surprisingly, still a fun character beyond that, but it's basically an eternal shadow hanging over her character.
>>96582467It's just an insta-win with any landfall = draw card. In a vacuum it's bad, but you can't price it lower on principle.
>>96582416btw the rules text you should give ur custom creature is:>you can play any number of lands from hand>exile a land you control: draw a card>you may not have more than 50 lands in your starting deckAnd make it cost 6 mana
>>96582477Why not? Can you point me to the exact ruling?
>>96582495Playing cards from exile is the same way as playing them from anywhere else. The effect only gives you permission to play it from exile. All other restrictions still apply (lands per turn, timing rules, etc.)
>>96582473no>>96582495>why notbecause the one land played per turn thing doesn't apply only to lands played from hand but also lands played from other zones.Otherwise crucible of worlds would read "play all your lands on turn 3 as long as you have a fetch land in the graveyard"
>>96582390Now that I think about it, maybe that's why Wizards doesn't print more tribal hate.It's a shame though. I've ranted many times before about how I wish they'd print an equivalent to pic related that lets me turn all my opponents creatures into something else so cards like Witch's Vengeance are actually playable.>>96582422Eh there's already so many token doublers, it's not really generating you much advantage. Especially in those colors and with that tribe. There aren't many citizen synergies, and you're not playing aristocrats in selesnya.All it's really doing is putting bodies on the board that you could pump up, but you're in green, you could be making 3/3s and 4/4s with trample if you want tokens.
>>96582454>>>/reddit/
>>96582485There's two cards that do that and they're both 5+ mana.
>>96582473No nothing has given you permission to play an ADDITIONAL land this turnYou've already played your 1 land per turn so you CANNOT play the one you exiled.Cannot always defeats can.
>>96582512>they're both 5+ mana.They're also both in the best colors for ramping, drawing, and cheating out creatures. 5+ mana means nothing at all.
>>96582525i wanna fuck and get eaten by that lizard man in that order
>>96582531Get in line.
So I'm somewhat new, and I know the "usual" ways to win like >just hit them bro>mill them out>poison counters>thoracleIs there any other "weird" ways to win? I like the idea of goofy gimmick decks.
>>96582586Game lock + determinate ability to not draw out before opponents do.
>>96582586An unusual way of getting there is more relevant.Ultimately every deck wins by making opponents lose (via loss of life, drawing from an empty deck, "loses the game" effects including poison counters) or by a card that just says "you win the game"
>>96582586mill YOURSELF out in combination with laboratory maniac or jace wielder of mysteriesplay approach of the second sun twicehit your opponents with lose the game creatures like Atemsis, All-Seeing or Phage the Untouchablebasically just go on scryfall and search "lose the game" or "win the game", lots of wacky wincons have been printed over the years
>>96582586Scryfall>o:"you win the game" -o:can't f:commanderhttps://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3A%22you+win+the+game%22+-o%3Acan%27t+f%3AcommanderThere you go bud.
I had my first game of MTG yesterday. I told my buddy to play his most powerful deck (Slivers) just to see how far the power difference is and I actually won by picrel.I had just 2hp left.
>>96582689Happy for you, but his deck either bricked or isn't nearly as powerful as he thinks it is.Your wincon is extremely telegraphed and some basic removal would have stopped it dead
>>96582701there's not THAT much enchantment removal in most decks, plus he's in blue so he can protect it quite easily
>>96582712>there's not THAT much enchantment removal in most decksSlivers is a 5 color deck or nothing. Disenchant, Generous Gift, Stroke of Midnight, Grasp of Fate, Unexpectedly Absent, Feed the Swarm, Withering Torment, Nature's Claim, Krosan Grip, literally any blue bounce spell.Hell, an overloaded Vandalblast would have bought a bunch of turns.A high power Sliver deck should not be losing to Mechanized Production, there really isn't anything more to say on that
>>96582756they have a lot of OPTIONS but you're not running 10 enchantment removal spells
>>96582764>you're not running 10 enchantment removal spellsI specifically listed cards that hit more than enchantments, that was the entire point. 4 of them were "nonland permanent" and all the rest hit either artifacts/enchantments or creatures/enchantments
>>96581070cut a land
>>96580965money
Spider-man fucking sucks AND Fleem is lame and gay.
>>96582586play hard locks and force everyone to deck out
>>96582814If Fleem gets WotC to print Omen Paths in paper, it's more than worth it
>>96582814Even my LGS owner was talking about how it seems Spiderman is flopping and how it looks like a lot of shops will be left with a lot of unsold inventory.
>>96582764Because Mechanized Production is an aura, hitting the artifact it's enchanting is just as good as hitting the enchantment, by the way
>>96582832Do stores ever put unsold inventory on sale to move it, or does WPTC forbid that?
>>96582832Good, I hope so. Every retard who gambles needs to suffer heavy losses so they learn not to be so fucking stupid.Investorfags, LGS, everyone who looked at Final Fantasy and thought "oh boy if I dump money into UB I'll be rich!!!!!"
>>96582848Yeah stores can do whatever they want. LGSes sometimes put stale product on sale below MSRP if they need to clear inventory. I occasionally see less desirable recent precons at $30. Pic related is actually a really strong deck with good reprints, but people just don't really like it for various reasons.
>>96582848>Do stores ever put unsold inventory on sale to move itEventually but not for a long time, and by then most of the good shit is gone. And even then, not much of a discount.I remember Murder at Karlov Manor went down by something like a buck fifty or two bucks 6 months after it released or something.
>>96582824Best you'll get is a single mythic in a mystery booster.
>>96582701My commander is picrel. I already had seven clues when I played Mechanized Production. So he only had one turn to stop me, and he already used two artifact removals and one enchantment removal earlier. I think I got super lucky. He stopped attacking me after like turn five because he saw it would just generate lots of stuff.
Is Halo worse than Fentanyl?
>>96582893Nah. WotC did not anticipate Omen Paths being so popular. Once they're clear of their contractual obligations to Disney, paper print is on the table
>>96582898
>>96582911Fentanyl can make you an immortalized national hero so yeah.
>>96582924Has any minor character in Magic ever been killed by a projectile?
>>96582921Yeah he has that one, but didn't draw it. He was waiting for this or one with flying, or more lands to get out overlord (which he drew from the start) but I was quick enough for him to never have all five colors of Mana. One more turn and I would have been dead for sure. I think I won on turn nine. We both struggled with Mana until turn three when I finally got my draw card whenever stuff dies going. By combining picrel with reassembling skeleton.
>>96582921>Overlord as commander>you can freely tutor stuff like shifting, hivelord, crystalline, etcI am convinced that guy's sliver deck was total ass.
>>96582948>to get out overlord (which he drew from the start)Your friend is a retard. Overlord should ALWAYS be your commander, since he can get any other sliver out to answer the issue at hand.
>>96582948>>96582951>>96582957Yeah what they said. Your friend's sliver deck basically isn't nearly as powerful as he thinks it is.
>>96582951>>96582957>>96582961Kay. Guess I'll let him know. He used SLiver Queen as a commander. But I don't think it would have mattered in this case, right? He never had the mana for either anyways.
>>96582973Queen is a $300 paperweight most of the time. Thrumming Hivepool does her job infinitely better, and you'd only need her to make suicide Slivers if you didn't have Slivers that bypass blocking (e.g. flying, trample, flanking, etc). Queen is only expensive because no reprints.
>>96582973If he's struggling for mana, it's not a high power deck, just how it goes. Powerful decks are consistent. How much did he spend/proxy on his lands?
>>96582948>turn 9>doesnt have access to all 5 colorsWhew>gay proxyOh its just a larp post so he can post his boring bloodborne customs
>>96582997>>96582987He doesn't proxy. It was a legit (and appearently expensive, as I am finding out) card. It was in Portuguese however, since he's from Brazil. He showed me translations of cards as we went along. I think that's fair if he allows me to play a "gay" proxy. I have no clue what constututes for sufficient mana in such a deck but I think he had plenty. We just both kinda flunked and I had better options of getting out of it through drawing cards.
>>96583037If you're playing a WUBRG deck, a full set of triomes, fetches, shock lands, bond lands (for 4 player pods), etc are expected some you can manage your mana accordingly.
Any commanders that just underperform/can't make work no matter how hard you try? For me it's this bitch.>deal-making/politics is a total meme relying on your opponents to do something/not do something is a complete coinflip and they WILL do anything they can to screw you over/take bigger advantage of the situation>giving your opponents a fuckton of free mana is always a potentially (most of the time) game-losing play. >Does literally nothing if people just horde their treasures>if you try to play cards that punish opponents for hording treasures they just tap sac in response and you get literally nothing cause they specifically have to spend treasure mana on spells for Variz to do anything>if they DO actually use their treasures they'll either end the game or get so far ahead you may as well lost, or they spend as many treasures as possible on one spell so all you get is 1(one) card draw>if Variz dies congratulations your opponents have a fuckton of extra mana they can use freely without punishment >playing stax/MLD to force treasure use makes you a huge asshole
>>96583170This dame is for getting people who crap out on their mana draw back into the game, artifact ETB triggers, and also X cost spells. She's not really a politics commander despite her looks.
>>96583170Yes, Vazi is a bad card, any further questions?
>>96583170>>deal-making/politics is a total meme relying on your opponents to do something/not do something is a complete coinflip and they WILL do anything they can to screw you over/take bigger advantage of the situationI mean, you nailed it first line here.Politics is a massively over-hyped aspect of the game and only exists at tables with players who don't know what they're doing. Any other table, there is no bargain people can make that justifies not making the optimal play for the situation. In a situation where it's arbitrary then the play is just to victimize whoever is least likely to be able to retaliate.As for the card, if it made it so lands had>This land does not untap during your untap step>(1) : Untap this landIt would be significantly better at doing what it wants to do.As it is, it's just gonna get people to their wincons faster and the +1/+1s won't matter
>>96583170Politicking and aikido and group hug decks are the biggest reddit memes and always backfire on the user unless you're playing with literal retards.
>>96583302heliod the radiant dawn is good tho
>>96582832Good. I didn't go but prerelease at my LGS had only 6 people according to the store discord, usually it gets atleast 20-30 at prerelease and FF had 50. Fuck all the idiots in this thread who claimed Spooderman was a more popular IP than FF. This set needs to flop harder than march of the machines so WotC pivots and stops giving us more lame capeshit UBs. Disney and the MCU killed all interest in the Marvel capeslop IP. The comics don't sell, no one sees the movies, stop giving us capeslop no one wants besides boomer MaRo and his reddit buddies.
>>96583170People were so extremely desperate for a non-combat Boros commander they gaslit themselves (me included) into thinking Nelly Borcha is a good commander. She isn't by the way. She's obviously meant to pilot a goad deck (which is already an underpowered archetype that collects second place at best) but does it in the worst possible way. Why in the actual FUCK does this card let your opponents draw a card also? At best she's card neutral but it's actually worse than card neutral cause chances are the player with the biggest creatures you want to suspect/goad are already the furthest ahead and you're giving them more stuff. THEY ARE GOADED NO POLITICS REQUIRED THEY ALREADY CAN'T TOUCH YOU WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY BEING COMPENSATED WITH CARD DRAW?????Also she's 4 mana for some reason with an attack trigger on a mediocre body that will die attacking into most players midgame.
>>96583350>Impulsive AccuserLol she's literally a woke Karen
>>96583276>Politics is a massively over-hyped aspect of the gamePolitics are good to at least help convince players not to do something utterly retarded or steer them in the direction of the actual arch enemy. It's concerning how often players don't touch the Izzet storm player with several cost reducers in play cause "they didn't do anything yet" or tell people we should probably murder the guy who just tutored for Craterhoof last turn.
>>96583350>non-combat Boros commanderIgnore the "can't block" thing on this one, just play activated abilities. I would suggest Soulbright Flamekin>{1}{R}>{2}: Target creature gains trample until end of turn. If this is the third time this ability has resolved this turn, you may add {R}{R}{R}{R}{R}{R}{R}{R}.You can make 8 red mana literally for free, cast whatever the fuck you want
>>96583350I played this and completely missed that when you attack you make a creature unable to block.
>>96583530reading the card explains the card
>>96583533I know what it does but I didn't play around it correctly.
>>96578096If you run a low enough land count, then you can use it to stack your entire library in whatever order you want by spending a draw and failing to find a land. I use it in pic related since a little power boosting and a Traverse the Outlands empties them all out. Grothama wants as many manadorks as possible for the vigor synergy or just card draw in general, so I only run about 28 total.
>>96583170> thanks for the free treasures> anyways I tap a mountain and lightning bolt your commander
>>96582321Ah ok. I heard the same nonsense when I was a kid about a band that just had a 1 hit wonder: 311, 3 11s =/= k k k. All silly nonsense looking for spice where there is none to be found in their normally plain lives. Too many rage bait responses generated but I’ll respond to you I guess. Thanks for explaining the term dog whistle. Anyway. Magic the gathering. I opened a Tezzeret cruel captain (not full art sad) and have been really impressed by him. I don’t often buy packs of magic either.
>>96583170is goad / politics / group hug - try hard trash ?- a trap not the juicy kind here is a sweet jund lady
>>96581688Thanks, anon. As for cheaper options, there definitely is stuff like Evolving Wilds etc, plus the SNC cycle of lands that sac themselves on ETB. Obviously not as good as the Fetch lands, however better in the deck than running duals that aren't a type of basic.
How would you build Jeska forma Jund, with Worldfire as a wincon?
The fifty dollar bulkslop krenko deck I gifted my newb friend wiped the floor against my friend’s $400+ Atla Palani tier 4
>>96583724same way i build all my decks- balance all the colours- no $$$ tutors- bracket 3 at the most- no infinite combo's- enough interaction to blow out a tryhard
>>96583724jund good stuff with some bad cards in the mix
>>96583728does the 400% deck not run a single removal spell?
>>96583728Krenko? Bulkslop?? I guess which krenko. I built my first commander deck around a foil Krenko Mob Boss that came in a M13 starter deck. He’s inevitability. No matter what they will eventually run out of wrath of gods and cyclonic rifts and you’ll kill everyone with your goblin army.
I WANT A COMMANDER THEMED AROUND PAINTING OR ART THAT DOESN'T FUCKING SUCKWHY HASN'T WIZARDS PRINTED ONE?
>>96583973>imfuckingplying Anhelo is bad
Anything I should change about this deck?Posted it for like the third time I know. Commander night coming up soon though.https://archidekt.com/decks/15922325/i_suck_at_deck_building
>Find cool new commander>Only strategy I find fun with it is some form of Voltron>Already have 3 Voltron decks Can you blame me when I want the featured card of my deck to be the most prominent force in my deck? I've been trying to build a Zilortha/Godzilla voltron deck for the past year and still don't feel like it does well and it's worse knowing I'm better off just making it a pile of big creatures instead of making Godzilla be the thing actually killing my opponents...
>>96584037post it in moxfield and i will look at it.buti am the worse at mtg.
>>96584037I feel like maybe you don't actually have all that many activated abilities in your activated ability doubling deck
>>96584079I noticed this too, which is why I'm asking for help.
What are some W, R and WR creatures that have flying and vigilance? I want to replace the following in my Gisela deck...>Geist-Honored Monk>Moltensteel Dragon>Baneslayer Angel>Academy Rector
>>96583986He's nothing to do with painting. It's just>kill thing, copy spellAnd once per turn too lmao, what, is this fucking white?
>>96584089I mean, what are you looking for in particular?Deckbuilding is mostly about deciding how many cards you want to assign to your deck's themes, and ensuring you have enough interaction, ramp and draw to play those themes. How many interaction pieces do you want to run? How much ramp, how much draw? How many pieces of these kinds can you get that synergise with your commander, and does this synergy result in a better rate than staples in those categories? If the answers to these questions don't match the cards in your deck, those are the first changes you should make.To me it looks like you have a lot of cards tied up in death-trigger related effects, but your commander works off activated abilities. I'd cut some of the former and add more of the latter.
>>96584071>>Find cool new commanderWhat was it? If you say it's a Universes Beyond card, I'm legally allowed to castrate you
>>96584037I'd move wayfarer's bauble into the deck from maybeal bhed salvagers from FF is another susurian voidborn/psychomancer, and reckless fireweaver is like weftstalker ardentI think this really wants the classic precon includes of ophiomancer and viscera seer, also umbral collar zealot if you have one.you got a mishra's bauble anywhere? maybe even a mindstone?have you fishbowled this much? I'm not sure uthros psionicist is doing that much for youyou have a distinct lack of indestructible artifacts to put phylactery counters on, and in fact you sure seem to like sacrificing artifactsalso remove golem heartis necrosquito your only furnace skullbomb target? I'd replace it with aether, nihil, or pyrite spellbomb. nihil specifically helps by also being graveyard hate.
Welp after completing like 4 different lists and ordering a bunch of cards (many of which havent arrived) this is what Im setting on for tonight.
>>96584103>What are some W, R and WR creatures that have flying and vigilance? Learn to use scryfall>id<=rw t:creature (o:vigilance AND o:flying) f:commanderhttps://scryfall.com/search?q=id%3C%3Drw+t%3Acreature+%28o%3Avigilance+AND+o%3Aflying%29+f%3Acommander&unique=cards&as=grid&order=color
>>96584037Only 29 lands is crazy. You have only 9 activated artifact abilities, and like 4 of them specify themselves for sacrifice. You also only have like 4 activated abilities on creatures. Its a scattershot of abilities and most are underwhelming. Gisa's basically your one repeatable threat. Get yourself at least a Viscera Seer for that sweet scry.
>>96580965The reason a jew does anything, for the shekels>2 and a half minute ad for Whatnot
>>96584037Actually I need to ask something in regards to ashnod the uncaringDoes stuff like this count? Or is it only, for example, 1 generic mana, Sacrifice a creature: punch your opponent in the face
>>96584467this is a triggered ability, not an activated ability
>>96581885>Given the anime art treatment.ah shit ...this will be All of Lorwyn ...guess it is the only way to get moar fire titties !!!
>>96584482right, thank you
Tempted to put her in my vampire deck, should i?
>>96584567is it because she's a cute anime girl
>>96583636>goadFun and potentially strong if well built and playing against the right decks. Mostly useless because there's almost always one combofag that will be totally unaffected by it.>politicsTry hard trap. There just aren't enough good cards that you can use to politics with. Most players will just get annoyed with your yapping and will ignore you.>group hugFine to clear the air if you have decks that absolutely stomp and the table is getting tired of your shit. Mostly a meme.
>>96584591That's part of it but also blowing her up especially with some death triggers on the field seems pretty good
>>96583876>makes the krenko player irrelevant for the rest of the gamenothing personnel gobbo
For an izzet deck to win, do they need to rely on combos or storm? I like izzey because it's fun but I'm getting stomped every game I play because I don't know my angle. I like to copy spells but at the same time I like value/synergy cards that produce tokens or prowess so I can attack and have a board prescence.But drawing cards, burning, bouncing, and countering doesn't get me very far in my game. My decks feel too honest and orthodox while my opponents have creatures too big to burn or block. I know Niv Mizzet is a popular commander and I have him in my deck, but I'd prefer to try out a more unique commander before I concede and run him in the command zone. It would be nice to have a combat damage/copied pump spell angle or a go-wide strategy with lots of creatures that have ping effects and token production. https://moxfield.com/decks/agO2Q0AdjEy9q9PK-S5qTw I know the deck is bad but I'm trying to find my footing and I've recently gauged the power level of my pod as much higher than mine.
>>96584658bully>>96584567she needs padding pix related
>>96584676what are you talking about, izzet wins with artifacts, of course
>>96584037thankts to everyone who replied btw, read through the replies
>>96584684evereth pads her chest!
>>96584676Izzet wins when the gay dragon gets a fat dick up his ass.
>>96584676>For an izzet deck to win, do they need to rely on combos or storm?If you want to draw, bounce and counter then yes combo and storm are your go-to wincons. But there's other stuff, like making a bajillion tokens with cards like brudiclad, metallurgic summonings and shark typhoon. And you can make decent artifact decks.Also burn as creature removal mostly sucksblue has good enough removal options (resculpt, pongify, etc) that you don't usually need to go around using burn spells on creatures.
>>96584676how about a co-commander / secret commander, sure you dont have much for top deck manipulation... but
What are some good single-card draw engines in green, aside from Sylvan Library?
>>96584747engine ?green is spoiled, you have 3 enchantments that care about power + a fucking squirl + some guys who care about buddies showing up
>>96584747>Little guysBeast Whisperer, Guardian Project>Big guysToo many to list
>>96584747>>96578532
>>96584747the joke is that sylvan library is badsome actually GOOD ones in green are garruk's uprising, beast whisperer, descendant's path (if playing tribal), guardian project, outcaster trailblazerAnd that's but a few, green has a morbillion of them
>art blows>g/g/g might be demanding>but it works for tokens
>>96584822Okay?
>>96584789>library is le bad cause it costs life!
>>96584676Play Balmor or Lilah
>>96584747>c=g o:draw>sort EDHREC rank descendinghttps://scryfall.com/search?q=c%3Dg+o%3Adraw+&order=edhrec&as=grid&unique=cardsWe're learning so much about Scryfall in this thread!
>>96584567She could work. But I think she's best if you have a deck that wants a sacrifice outlet. Does your deck have a good amount of death triggers and a need for a sacrifice outlet?
>>96584747I'm thinking about those beansThis card slaps so hard in bracket 2/3
>>96584834Felt as though it was worth mentioning, since lots of people overlook it.
>>96584157It's a tossup between this and Wilson, Refined Grizzly, so I guess you can half-castrate me
>>96584838Literally why would you not just play a draw engine that doesn't chunk off 10% of your starting life total per card? It's not as though green has a shortage of them.
>>96584658Sir you think this is a game?
>>96584676>But drawing cards, burning, bouncing, and countering doesn't get me very far in my game.What the fuck are you doing that doing what Izzet does isn't getting you far?
>>96584822The art isn't that bad. It's more whatever. I'm more surprised that it hasn't gotten new art yet.
LOOK AT THE WEBSITE, SEE THE POST (THE PART OF COMITTEE REMOVED) THE WIZARD COAST BRACKETSTEIN EDH CONTROLS! THE GAVIN VERHEY BROADCAST CHANNEL, THE MOTHERSHIP UPDATES! THE BRACKETSTEIN RULE 0 CONTROLS. THE GAMECHANGER SOCIAL CONTRACT CONTROLS! THE LATEST COMMANDER UPDATES TO CONTAIN ALL BRACKETSTEIN CONTROLS. EVEN IN LGS TABLES OF MENERY PEDIGREE PLAYGROUPS! VISIBLE UNIVERSES BEYOND, THE MASS LAND DESTRUCTION SOFTBAN LOOP!NET DECKLISTS FOR YOURSELF.THERE IS NO ESCAPE FROM THIS WORSE GANGSTER WOTC STATE, USING ALL OF THE DEADLY BRACKETSTEIN CONTROLS. IN 2025 PINKERTON GANGSTER UNIONBUSTERS BEAT ME BLOODY, DRAGGED ME IN CHAINS FROM MAGIC CON LAS VEGAS. SINCE THEN I HIDE IN FORCED DOCKSIDELESS POVERTY, ISOLATED ALONE IN THIS LOW DEADLY MIDRANGE OLD HOUSE.THE BRAZEN, DEADLY GANGSTER PINKERTONS AND MIDRANGE PUPPET UNDERLINGS SPRAY ME WITH SNOWBALL LANDS DECKS FROM ULTIMATE GUARDS AND EVEN SATIN TOWERS, CROSSOVER ASSAULTS. EVEN IN TABLETOP SIMULATOR, WITH TREASURES, EVEN CLUES AND FOODS, EVEN DEADLY VALUE ENGINES, OR ARISTOCRAT SHOCK “DEATH TRIGGERS” EVEN SECRET LAIR PUSHED ACROSS FORMAT TRAJECTION OF UNIVERSES BEYOND CROSSOVER ITEMS, OR EVEN BLOODY FINISHER “DOING THE THING” TO SHUT ME UP FOREVER WITH A “MLD UNDEFENDABLE EXTERMINATION”, EVEN WITH TRAINED PARROTING BRACKET DEFENDERS, IN MAXIMUM SNOWBALL DEATHSTAR PRISON FOR WRITING THESE UNFORGIVABLE, TRUTHS. UNTIL MY “UNDEFENDABLE EXTERMINATION”, I, ANON E. MOUS, ESQUIRE, 314 E. MAIN STREET, WAUKESHA, WISCONSIN. I STAND ALONE AGAINST YOUR MAD DEADLY WORLD-WIDE CONSPIRATORIAL GANGSTER MARO TCG COMMUNISM WITH WALL TO WALL DEADLY GANGSTER PROTECTION, LIFE LONG SWORN CONSPIRATORS TOLARIAN INCORPORATED ORGANIZED CRIME, THE WIZARDS AND JUDGES, THE DEADLY SNEAK PARROTING PUPPET GANGSTERS USING ALL THE GANGSTER DEADLY BRACKETSTEIN CONTROLS!
>>96584904I get the reference and I still find this cringe and annoying
>>96584904In the thumbnail the lamp looks like a freaky face with wide eyes. It's creepy.
>playing a white weenie mono-white token deck>thinking about replacing Karmic Guide with pic related>don't have any combos for Karmic Guide in deckThis is a strict upgrade, right? It costs one more to bring something back, but gives everyone a buff and can be kick for even more to bring more stuff back. This is an underrated card, right?
>>96584904I don't get this reference and it makes me want to rewrite it to be a reference I do get probably the vor speech from warframe
>>96584893nice work around.Krenko needs more tools, more support, more rape cards too
>>96584917Old internet meme based on the real writings of a real schizohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNgyyd0Z2KA
>>96584893just put krenko in the goblin bombardment in response to the song of the dryads
>>96584916It's also an enchantment which is harder to remove. I think that you have to pay into it that keeps people from playing it as much.
>>96584916>underrated....that cmc makes tips it just past fair and makes it clunky.but if it works for your curve use it.>
>>96584916It's awkward because reanimating encourages a go tall playstyle, but mass pump is go wide... and it doesn't do either very efficiently. If you somehow have a deck that can take advantage of it, them by all means go for it. But I have been looking for a good deck for this card since it was printed 10+ years ago and never found it.
>>96584938>>96584945>>96584967It's better than Karmic Guide though, right?
>>96584978Unless you're going for reanimation loops and lines in which case Karmic Guide has more versatility. Otherwise yeah, I'd say Marshal Anthem is better.
>>96584978I have a hard time believing you have no creature synergies that make Karmic Guide superior, but if not, then yes, please give Marshal's Anthem a shot. For all the decks I couldn't put it in over the years, make it happen.
>>96584978karmic guide benefits from blink effects, which makes it much stronger
>>96584978>>96584967> But I have been looking for a good deck....not "good" but :https://moxfield.com/decks/T8XTs7d9r0-OJPsGuLZc5wi found a okay use
I saw a Spider-Man card today and I started hyper-ventilating at the lack of scrimblo brimblo the wizard of bominoria on the art
>>96583170Does nothing until turn 6 unless I ramp like a mother fucker. I gave up and moved to a low CMC Zombie commander.
>>96585052she hawt but preffers stiffy_cold_hard_dick
>>96584893If a Krenko player ever ran this card and used it to counter SotD or other "turn creature into land" cards I would kneel so hard it'd shatter my kneecap.
>>96584747Ohran is goated. If the table allows it to sit on the board you've probably already won.
>>96584744I don't quite understand. My "secret commander" is probably veyran and I often put my swift foot bots on her since she's a big target. I could maybe run her in the command zone and try to rely on doubling prowess triggers.>sure you dont have much for top deck manipulation.I proxied sensei's top and I have a lot of scrying and card filter effects. Lots of cantrips as well, but I took a few out since my abundant copying effects are wasted on small cantrips vs big impactful spells. Are you suggesting Keranos as secret commander?>>96584706I know blue has a lot of artifact support while red has more artifact sac and recursion. While both have decent metalcraft effects, my question to you is HOW exactly a RU artifact deck wins? Do you make a bunch of tokens then fling them or sac them for infinite mana and what type of commander compliments this strategy?>>96584896I tend to start of fine but then I get attacked and my creatures get sacrificed to stuff like braids or have to chump block. The creatures on the board get really big too. honestly I'm still trying to figure out the ways I keep losing. It's usually to a combo I was unaware of or a creature that I can't answer.>>96584854>balmor Really? I actually have balmor but I dismissed him as a commander since his ability seems really weak. Do I run as many token producers as I can with cheap cantrips and burn? I think this is a rare opportunity to make Zada hedron grinder work. >Lilahthis one seems fun. For the shell, do I also want token producers like Balmor or creatures that get bigger like Nivix cyclops, electrostatic infantry, or tempest angler?I like your recs but i'm trying to figure out and research the right shell for them. Most lists I've found are budget builds but I already have a couple strong cards like Harmonic prodigy and veyran. My problem is balancing out card draw, removal, counterspells, and burn. I am willing to go a bit above "$12 budget" level.
>>96583350I despise the flavor of this card. Bell Borca was a great character in the original Ravnica novels, and this girl bearing his name as an "Impulsive Accuser" just isn't it. His own card they finally printed also doesn't capture him well imo, it's like they had a design and threw his name on it.The fun part about ghost Borca is that he's haunting Agrus Kos, spirit of an annoying past partner, that he'd rather be a hallucination but sadly he's a real ghost who is really annoying. It plays into Kos's teardrop (painkiller) addiction making Borca a great supporting character. Meanwhile Nelly is just a name legacy for some reason and Borca's card is generic boros spirit man with no personality.
>>96585103>Are you suggesting Keranos as secret commander ?- yes, i believe it will be a good fit for your deck, and works well with Melek as your Com, you can even try switching them around and see how the deck plays.
>>96585048Why are you acting like disliking Spiderman and Spongebob Square pants in my fantasy game is some sort of grognard/neckbeard faggotry
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>>96585128People dislike the constant whining that is always the same shit and won't change anything. The people who tell you to quit the game are simply right objectively.
>draw a cardCool, don't mind if I do! >then discard a cardFUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU THIS DESIGN FUCKING SUCKS "BRO JUST RUN MORE RECURSION AND GRAVEYARD MANIPULATION CARDS" NO FUCK YOU IF I WANTED TO PLAY SOME GAYVEYARD DECK ID FUCKING BUILD MULDROTHA FUCK YOU GAVIN FUCK YOU NOSEWATER THIS FUCKING SUCKS DRAWING THEN DISCARDING IS LIKE SUCKING YOUR OWN DICK THIS SHIT IS SHITTY THIS FUCKING FUCKERY IS FUCKED DRAW AND DISCARD MY DICK INTO YOUR ASSHOLES WOTC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>96585128Because they are trolling for (you)s
>>96585138seems like a red proablem- white : draw a card, all opponents draw 3- blue : draw a card + cmc nearly 1:1- green : have cards, do anything get cards- black : draw card + synergy- red : draw card, discard + exile some rando.........balanced color pie
>>96585164>- white : draw a card, all opponents draw 3A lot of white draw is "draw if opponent do a thing or if you have a weenie enter"
>>96585187I hope several weenies have entered the rectum of whoever came up with the concept of draw+discard.
What is the most busted mechanic of all time?
>>96585207Companion
>>96585207Storm
>>96585103>balmor buildCouldn't say for sure, I have him in Lilah he just works with what you mentioned, prowess and little fellas. Although he isnt prowess he pretty much is. I would say yeah lots of cantrips, low cost protection spells and token creators.>lilahI just went pseudo voltron with it but the plotting allows you to string together a lot of ridiculously spells, she's my only deck with extra turns with Stitch in Time which can flop but with all the copying and getting to cast it twice no matter what its easy to pop off. And plot doesnt exile afterwards so you can recur for more. Fkr lilah id focus less on her prowess and more on the fact that all izzet spells are doubled, even if a turn later.
>>96585207free mulligan
>>96585207Delve
>>96585207blue- green is about to overtake
>>96585207>S tier Companion>A tierStormDelveDredgeCascadeAffinity >B and loweEverything else
Is he fun or just try hard slop?
>>96585288definitive do thing draw card slop commander
>>96585207Stuff that lets you cast for free. Storm, Delve, exiling cards from your hand, etc.A near second: infinite/effectively infinite combos. There are zero formats and standard rotations that have been made better by the inclusion of infinite combos. Not capping a card comboing off to 3-5 procs a turn is a fundamental design mistake.
>>96585288>88>...one OR more....- card + red = exile/discardit suffers for being a 'new' card design and not being blue or green.
>>96585288>88nice card art thokinda wish he was a playable 4/4 for 4.
>>96585288Slop Nixilis, Shitter Kingpin.
>>96585270You forgot infect in A, it was so good that they had to split it into two different mechanics to bring it back and even then those two combined are lesser than infect.It's held back by mostly being on shit creatures but the keyword itself is absurd.
>>96585338>split it into two different mechanicsWhich are you referring to besides Toxic?
>>96585351Wither
>>96585352Wither is not a derivative of Infect
>>96585362You're right it came first, my bad.Still my point stands, infect a much superior version of toxic combined with wither.
>>96585225yerp
>>96585400wtf how does this work?if it's in your opening hand you can exile 7 cards to start the game with 14 cards?
>>96585418if you could mulligan, you may mulligan by exiling your hand and drawing a new hand of that many. it's worded like that because you could mul down to less than seven and then take the serum mul. it's a "free" mul that costs "exile this hand"
>>96585418>how does this workReading the card will tell you how it works.
So this sucks, right? 6 mana seems way too fucking slow and it seems win more
>>96585435I'd play it in my boomer bullshit pile if it didn't have spiderman on itlol
New highlander format100 cardssingleton except one legendary creatureyou must have 4 copies of that creature in your deckcolor identity rules apply like in commander
>>96585451>elder grandeur highlander
>>96585451new formatit's commander, but all players start with a tapped coveted jewel in play that untaps on their second untap step of the gamePlayers cannot lose control of their coveted jewel until it has untapped for the first timeThe coveted jewels cannot be destroyed, exiled, tucked, bounced or otherwise removed from the board.Players cannot gain control of more than one coveted jewel each turnA Player's jewel is not removed from the game when they dieIf a player controls all four coveted jewels, they win the game
new commander rule: whenever you cast or copy a card, your life is reduced by one
>>96585207Companion and it's not even close.
>>96585207>nobody has mentioned phyrexian manaLmao
What commander to cast rite of replication for dumb value repeatedly? I'm thinking of Riku.
If there was a spiderslop card that I actually liked, I would just print a chinaman'd Through the Omenpaths and use that instead. If anybody bitched about the proxy, I could just show them the spidey card. Of course, the entire set is abjectly terrible so I've no need to ever entertain the thought of doing so after I hit submit on this post.
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>>96585607Because it's one of many busted mechanics. However it's still miles below Companion.
>>96585625>buy the most expensive version of the most expensive legend in the spiderman set and build it>use a cheaply done omenpaths proxy>show each table the ludicrously expensive card that you are proxying before each game
>>96585631Your proposal is acceptable.
>>96585625I'd just use the spidey card due to not having autism
fresh thread>>96585655>>96585655>>96585655
>>96585625make an anime proxy of the omenpath version of a spooderman card
>>96585658I absolutely despise anime cards, but get rid of the set symbol because it looks ridiculous
>>96585666sure, it needs borders around the mana symbols too
