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Previous thread: >>96628733
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Deluger

My form
* Sorcerer
My specialization
* Obscurer
My race
* Water Elemental

Races
* Elemental
* Slime
* Merpeople

Traits +3
* Land transformation -2
* Miasma -1
* Nests -1
* Scrying -1
* Recycling -1
* Adaptability -1
* Interdisciplinary -1
Drawbacks
* Mutants +1
* Monstrous Menagerie +1
* Outsider +2
* No Mercy +1

Basic Units +25
* Peon
* Fodder
* Warrior -1
* Mount -1
Medium Units
* Artillerist -2
* Centurion -1
* Cultist -1
Elite Units
* Magic Archer -2
* Wraith -2
* Magus -4
* Spawner -3
* Strategos -2
* Behemoth -6

Starting Location
* The Far North
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>>96640779
Class: Water Elemental Sorcerer-Obscurer.

Plan, stage 1: Planting
I start in the Far North and go underwater, never to emerge again. I cover the ocean floor with slime (seafloor-Adaptability Slime Peons). This may take centuries, that's fine. Slime Peons manage Nests and produce Slime Cultists, who provide mana to sustain Water Elementals. Obscurer + Land transformation + Miasma keeps the project hidden. I don't strictly need the Mermen, but perhaps they are a better fit for thinking and tool-using roles like Centurions, Magic Archers, Magi and Strategoi.

Plan, stage 2: Organizing
There is no offensive army. 2 defensive armies are formed: anti-underwater army and anti-air army.
Anti-underwater army: a rudimentary army meant to ward off straggling mermen and sea monsters. It consists of Centurions guiding Warriors. I don't expect Goddess-aligned powers to try and attack me underwater, if my army consists of Water Elementals.
Anti-air army: a more serious army, to ward off enemy elites like dragons. It consists of Centurions guiding Water Elemental Artillerists and Magic Archers. Artillery sounds inaccurate, I hope Magic Archers have a magic arrow that guides Artillerist shots towards its target, so together they can kill dragons etc. I intend to stay hidden and avoid fights, the anti-air forces are created only in preparation for the next stage. A few Air Elemental Wraiths spy invisibly on enemy leadership, for early warning if they find me out. Scrying + Strategoi + Spawners allow the empire to scale.
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Plan, stage 3: Deluge
I tell my cultists to summon water, and I focus all efforts on that. Magi and I (as Interdisciplinary Sorcerer) research methods to accelerate the water summoning. I continue to avoid fights wherever possible. As sea level rises and cities are flooded, I should get essence, which I spend on Behemoths designed to fight the enemy elites, but only if they attack me. When I've managed to raise sea level by 1 km (requiring about 4*10^17 m^3 of water), I've pretty much won.

Outcome:
The sea floor will be covered in slime, the planet will be covered in water.
A lot like my unwashed dishes in the sink. I should really get to washing them.
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Serious question.

In a CYOA involving the world of psychics whose powers defy logic/reality because the users are inserting their will on it. Would you prefer it:

1. Enjoy the CYOA taking place in a world where Psychics are known to exist, but are a minority of the population doing their own things in the world as they make names for themselves among the public with their antics and activities against the paranormal and each other?

2. Enjoy a CYOA where the Psychics are a hidden minority of the world population, but they secretly control the world with an Illuminati faction that monitors, grades, and controls the awakened psychic population and lets anyone that joins the new world order climb its ranks to glory?


After these two, would you prefer the CYOA focus on:

A. Taking place in a school setting. You are a new student to the institute that trains and guides psychics that have awakened their powers in multiple courses and funding for prestige and graduation reasoning as you compete against psychics from all types of life to climb to the top and make bonds with other psychic youths.

B. A very open-ended CYOA where you can be more of a generalists and select the type of lifestyle you want for yourself as a psychic. Whether it is working for the Illuminati, being a mercenary for hire, or part of a criminal enterprise as a psychic.

C. A slice of life CYOA where you form a Club, an independent group of psychics that are outside the Illuminati, but are not a Syndicate and goes on misc. adventures dealing with phenomenon that happens to happen in your city or town in the world and resolve crisis this way with some locals offering aid.
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>>96640930
1; B or C.
A could be interesting in setting 2, but there are so many masquerades already. Personally, I really like when the public isn't treated like disposable fodder.
I wish you luck, anon. I promise that I'll make a build.
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>>96640930
What's the enemy faction?
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>>96640736
Umm . . .You know that there's a still active /cyoag/ thread on the board, right?

>>96620114

Plenty of posts left until bump limit, too.
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>>96640930
1 > 2, because 1 differs more from real life and I'd rather have a setting that's not superficially identical to real life.

A >> C >>>> B
You're italics right? Kin's wolfe and Lamentations both suffered a lot from lack of structure. An environment like a school gives structure to companions, challenges, etc as there is a daily rhythm to it that we can all relate to, and an obvious goal of graduating with good future opportunities through grades, contacts, extracurriculars etc.
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>>96641040
There is a reason that this thread is almost 3 days old.
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>>96641050
>An environment like a school gives structure to companions, challenges, etc as there is a daily rhythm to it that we can all relate to, and an obvious goal of graduating with good future opportunities through grades, contacts, extracurriculars etc.
Go the FUCK back to mcyoag.
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>>96641168
I don't post in mcyoag, I just think being part of some institution like that usually makes a cyoa better.
Consider Resonator >>96613522 , do you think the cyoa would've been better if there was no singular organization/facility, and you and the companions were all just some random dudes fighting the aliens?
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>>96641080
>There is a reason that this thread is almost 3 days old.
The Outer Reincarnation fanboys are snubbing it?
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>>96641193
No, it was uploaded by tok. You can tell because he backlinked to his previous thread. The continuity of the /cyoag/ to /cyoag/ is sacred and shan't be tarnished for the sake of one faggot's ego.
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>>96640763
Phalanx + Centurion or Heavy Infantry?
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KILL ALL TOKS
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>>96641588
The former. Unless it's a very niche build you shouldn't omit the Centurion. It fills a niche that you can't fill well otherwise. Most units are just some variant of "kills enemies" which makes them more interchangeable.
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>>96640763
I'm once again asking for you to give me your brightest, and most outlandish Hybrid race ideas. I want to some weird yet awesome shit that my enemies couldn't possibly anticipate.
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>>96641643
Beast x human = cat/dog/cow/etc with human mind. Nobody suspects
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>>96641643
Goblinoid x Insectoid for a cheap replenishing tide is a favorite of mine.
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This was an interesting cooperative CYOA from last thread that didn't get much traction. I figured I'd try it again and see if it does better.

Previous Stands
>>96633597
>>96634260

Stand Name: Paperback Writer

Excellent Potential

Song: https://youtu.be/yYvkICbTZIQ?si=0pNTsHg_yRn31ZCh
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>>96641718
making one seems like a lot of work

I liked the spell maker (the one with tables of combining elements), which worked alike, but I'm not really feeling it for JoJo stands.
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>>96641758
Post it
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>>96641643
Elemental + Aberrant or Elemental + Spectral Undead to access non-standard elements like void or curse elementals.
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>>96641156
Split eye of duality > everything else
>>96641164
Being a vampire > everything else
>>96641169
using split eye so all the guys are women to have an even bigger harem > everything else
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>>96641718
bro just wants someone to make him a stand lmfao
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>>96641986
>Void elemental
Doesn't adaption already give you that?
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>>96641997
>>96642033
>t. ok
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>>96642092
Don't you dare put me in the same group as Tok. Tok's build in Demon Eyes didn't use split eye, he used, you can guess, harem lord.
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Post Mushoku Tensei
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>>96642107
If you don't want to get confused with tok then don't post like him.
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>>96642113
sure
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>>96642122
Being pro genderswapping guys =/= being Tok. I didn't mention to make them bimbos with tits bigger than their heads.
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>>96641002
>but there are so many masquerades already.
There really isn't enough masquerade settings and I'm tired of people pretending otherwise.
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>>96642127
Ariel is the best girl in the setting right
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>>96642135
>My tranny fetish is better than his tranny fetish.
You both belong to /trash/ so who cares.
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>>96642127
Anyway, I think the dueling anons from last thread had it right when they reduced the points in this cyoa to 30.
>>96642144
I have never seen this show, didn't even look at the CYOA until yesterday.
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>>96642085
That was just an example for aberrant elemental, it could be something else too, like dream elemental perhaps. Although I also think there could be a distinction between space-void from Adaptation (vacuum elemental?), and eldritch-void from aberrant (conceptual nothingness?).
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>>96642127
That's gotta be the shittiest fictional map I've seen in my life.
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>>96642147
I care...
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>>96642144
From canon: Eris, the mc's redhead sister and the two big breasted beastfolk from the academy are better out of my memory.
From OC of the cyoa: Marion, Oma, Rita, Aurora and Helen are better
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>>96641009
>Enemy faction
Generally throughout A to C? Organized syndicates of Psychics along with spirits and other entities detectable by and attracted to Psychics and the natural energy they exude.

>>96641050
I could technically merge A and C.

>>96641002
>Public isn't treated like disposable folder
But they would still be disposable folder in the first scenario because if you are not a Psychic than you are not HIM to take on the dangers they do or do their feats.
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>>96642033
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>>96642178
>eris
Legit retard who cannot read
> the mc's redhead sister
Rapes her nephew, not making it up
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>>96641156
>>96641594
you forgot to put the "none-" before Toks
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>>96641156
forgot to put my build into the reply
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>>96642211
men can't be raped by women
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>>96642127
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>>96642233
>fiona fireheart
>lily frostflower
lmfao wtf is this writing
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>>96642167
It also pretends it’s the same size as our earth. The fuck.
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>>96642243
Pure kino that is what it is
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Pure cringe that is what it is
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>>96642208
Are all of these image builds?
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Orsted ruins the Mushoku Tensei cyoa for me. He should not exist. Such a Gary Stu. He’s like Bell but worse. What’s with these white haired people that are like soooo awesome?
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>>96642324
>when there's a character stronger than my build
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>>96642324
Give a rundown on these people for the rest of us, please. Also what does Rudeus do, is he a cool protag or should removed in the scenario choice?
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>>96641879
I can't find it. But I'm sure many here remember, it wasn't that long ago.
Black bg, white text, small resolution. There's a table where every combination of elements produces a new element.
There were multiple versions of it too.
The player would pick something like "major spell, fire+sand" and the author wrote a spell based on that.
Anyone?
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>>96642324
You can very easily seduce Orsted if you roll a woman.
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>>96642388
>you win by becoming Orsted's cum dumpster
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>>96642391
You win by grabbing his balls and twisting them.
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>>96642391
Create a succubus blessing and succ up all his power, not how I'd do it but you do you
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>>96642324
Orsted is closer to Ottar than Bell. He’s actually unbeatable as far as the cyoa goes.
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Archons are worse. The Batu is worse. I hate this author.
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>>96642355
That's why I hate multiplayer.
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>Pedoku Tensei
Wanna bet how many terabytes the author has on his flashdrive?
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>>96642410
You can at least seduce Orsted. Ottar is gay or something.
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>>96642421
Mcyoag hates multiplayer too >>96640148
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>>96642425
He’s not gay. Freyja simply puts a lock on her familia members. They’re obsessed with her to the point where nothing else matters but her. She’s basically a villain.

Orsted in comparison is actually isolated and likely a mega turbo virgin. He cannot sex anyone without resorting to rape due to this ‘everybody hates me’ aura/curse.
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Seducing Dumbledore.
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>>96641588
Heavy Infantry if you access to basic units.
Neither if you don't have access to basic units because military is obviously not your focus.
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>>96642453
is pearly gates an innuendo
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>>96642475
None of you tok-adjacent creatures are getting pussy.
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>>96642482
>None of you creatures are getting pussy
Democracy has failed.
Billions must die.
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>>96640930
1 and 2 are both equal with their own draw. 2 is for those who want to play secret agent and feel special. While 1 is for those who want to flaunt power. Between them I say do 1, but give it good reason and make it take place in the future or alternate present with its own lore.
A > C > B

B is the worst option because it seems aimless. It is nice that a greater world exists, but we should not be left to wander and do whatever in it. CYOAs having narrative focus is their main draw.

C is second best because it has a focus but its slice of life which is low risk and little to no reward.

A is the best option because it has a narrative focus, we have a reason to meet companions, we have people to fight and compete against, and worldbuilding is possible through interactions with other students school
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>>96642474
Which basic units best compliment Heavy Infantry?
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What’s higher powered. Danmachi or Mushoku Tensei?
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>>96642523
Danmachi god > Mushoku Tensei > Danmachi adventurer
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>>96642523
>anime power level comparisons
Sigh
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>>96642549
I assumed he meant the characters that the respective cyoas let you create.
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>>96642127
>Your mana pool selection represents a hard upper limit in you total possible mana capacity, which will require training to reach. Mana cannot be increased after ten years in this world even if you did not reach your upper limit before then.
So if you don't train your ass off before you turn 10 years old you've wasted your points in this section. Doesn't seem worth when you can just cast using mana crystals.
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>>96642514
Warriors.
All my minions are conventional fighting type units because they are cool.
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>>96641549
you're more than ten years too late for that
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>>96642514
skirmishers or mounts
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Been away for a few years, made any good cyoas yet or is it still all OR?
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>>96642628
Aromage will release Ultimate God soon.
Trust the plan.
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>>96642639
ANON.
He told me: "Get omnipotence!" and I gained omnipotence

ez, solved cyoa
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>>96642628
It's OR update 1 now.

https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnyl

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ObgmLnSo5yEod3g8r08FV_4Hc72s4RHK
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>>96642632
Is Aro a girl? I dont read cyoas made by girls, they're not good
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>>96642658
You misheard it, he actually said "Get impotence!" and now you have ED.
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>>96642211
eris > ariel
>Rapes her nephew, not making it up
I know. But that was after the mc neglected her feelings so she went for his son. She herself as a waifu is top tier.
And talking about that... Ariel canonically has a mental problem because of her bloodline being made of perverts. She tried to sexually abuse Sylphy and she defended herself, which made Ariel awaken her masochistic side, she is also sadistic. She has an harem of husbands and has 5 children all from different fathers.
Rudeus ending up with her is a bad ending.

The only worse option is possibly the ntr elf grandma
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>>96642243
Tok > your favourite author in imagination. He is Tok Bigdick when male and Tok Bimboslut when female
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>>96642424
At least 2
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>>96642424
More thank tok, I bet this upon one (1) OC.
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>>96642523
Mushoku gods (can destroy dimensions and worlds) > Danmachi god (can do things but are restricted) > mushoku normal characters > danmachi normal characters
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>>96642628
>been away for a few years
Yep, you missed a lot of good cyoas. But I am not listing them.
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>>96642681
So nothing changes...
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>>96642670
tok - male - bad cyoas
highlander - female - good cyoas
female = good cyoas
male = bad cyoas
destroyed with facts and logic
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>>96642710
Danmachi gods that aren’t restricted can also create/destroy entire dimensions and worlds
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>>96642864
Wait are you telling me Highlander isn't a burly hairy Scotsman from the Highlands? My life has been a lie...
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>>96642639
>take on someone's mental illness, disease, anything that is causing them grief
Can Plato's power work on non-mental diseases, or does it mean "anything that is [directly] causing them grief"?
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Magic is so strong in Danmachi it can literally one shot people the same level as you.

Magic is so weak in Mushoku Tensei you can cover a continent in freaky weather but somehow can’t target people.
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>>96642907
you're thinking of Gil, but he's a very short hairy scotsman from the highlands, not particularly burly.
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>>96642911
I forgot to ask. Could that "someone" be yourself?
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>>96642916
He’s also a dirty blonde. Not a chad red head. A true disgrace to the Scots.
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>>96642915
Martials in Mushoku can slice a road into a continent that leaves a holy aura so strong it repels monsters for several millennia afterwards.
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>>96642915
>but somehow can’t target people
Bruh my muscles outrank your lightning
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>>96642940
Yeah how are they martials again? Because they swing swords? After a certain point that sword becomes more so a wand than a sword.
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I will always laugh at how strong magic is in anime UNTIL it comes to fighting and the hero is like “heh I can dodge that”.

Turn yourself into light? Doesn’t matter. The hero wins. He kicks you in the balls. Doesn’t matter if those balls are mostly photons.
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>>96642952
https://mushokutensei.fandom.com/wiki/Millis_Continent
It was a Saint who did that, so it was probably slightly magical in nature. That being said, every martial in Mushoku uses Touki, which is just mana circulating the body in particular manners.
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Photons are pathetic creatures. Once they hit something they die. Absorbed.
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>>96642979
Okay, so they’re wizards first, martials second. Got it. “I need magic to do awesome muscle stuff I’m useless without it you see!”. Lol.
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>>96642227
Perpetual
Companion
Infinite Canvas
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>>96642989
I bet you still need protons, like the weak, 3d pig disgusting creature you are.
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>>96642670
>I dont read cyoas made by girls, they're not good
couldn't be me.
I love reading cyoas made by girls while thinking about the life we would have together.
True love. Passionate intimacy. Monogamous romance. Lots of children. No money troubles. The perfect life with happy wife Aromage.
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>>96642981
And yet they can live for billions of years travelling to your observations. Pathetic fleshy speck.
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>>96643017
Most sane author simp
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>>96643017
Least delusional cyoagoer.
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>>96642916
I miss Gil so much it actually hurts… I worry about him…
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>>96642894
maybe but they are restricted. In mushoku the only reason hitogami is not doing things on his own is because another god trapped him. He theorically could be walking down a street with all his powers if it wasn't for that.
So power plus freedom to use it > power.
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Rough martial sex with matterheroine after she lectures me about the superiority of mages.
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>>96642957
Luffy > your favourite verse. He even has an harem of girls and princesses. Imagine having Bonney in your harem, he does.
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>>96643052
>maybe but they are restricted
Most gods don’t bother playing a silly game with ants. It’s implied the Dungeon is also on the tier of the gods, and is also in on “the game”.
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>>96643070
His harem is nakama zoned.
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>>96643055
She is a lot like Drace isn't she? Magic autistic, actually dumb, too much ego, tsundere, gets dominated by their husband.
What if... EA and matterheroine are the same and EA made Drace as an insert?
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Light Light Devil Fruit should be the most powerful of all. You know I’m right. That guy (Borsalino) smoked too much weed or something.
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>>96643078
His harem is an ever expanding sea of high quality pussy. He calls them nakama because he is dumb.
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>>96643084
Borsalino actually perception blitzed everyone in the island, as he was faking being down he moved Luffy away and delivered food to him, while nobody saw him, not even Luffy.

So he is actually op, he simply chooses to not do things.
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>>96643091
Let's be real, Luffy is never tapping anything except maybe Boa. All shonen protags suffer from permavirgin syndrome.
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>That guy (Borsalino) smoked too much weed or something.
This is actually a very common fan theory
He’s sloooowed down
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>>96643102
Actually, I doubt he will tap even Boa. Nami is a no no confirmed by Oda, and he saw Boa naked and couldn't get a single erection, she offered marriage and he said he didn't want to. The Monkey D. family is ending with him. Unless Oda somehow makes Shirahoshi his love interest because Poseidon and NIka being a thing or something, which I doubt.

But realistically he should have a dozen of kids by now.
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>>96643114
Is erectile disfunction one of Gum Gum Fuit's side effects?
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>>96642667
I hate OR purely because it's popular now. If everyone says it good I feel like a sheep for agreeing.
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>>96643147
I doubt it, he can pump blood on command so his fruit would be actually good for that. It's simply the dangers of having 1 kid each generation, sometime your kid will be either gay or asexual, Garp and Dragon should have made a few more to guarantee one likes women
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I hate this tree purely because it's poplar now. If everyone says it good I feel like a sheep for eating its leaves.
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>>96643114
>Nami is a no no confirmed by Oda
Makes sense considering he married a Nami cosplayer, he's saving her for himself.
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>>96643154
>I hate OR purely because it's popular now. If everyone says it good I feel like a sheep for agreeing.
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>>96642127
>Name
Riser Phenex +100 points
>Gender
Male
>Race
Human
>Origin
Wealthy -3 points +12 boons +4 companions
>Continent
Central Continent, South -1 boon
>Advantages
Nobility -1 boon
Teacher: Summoning & Magic Arrays -1 boon
All seven languages -6 boons
Connections x3 -3 boons +3 companions
>Magic and Magic Talents
Mana Pool: God -28 points
Summoning & Magic Arrays Talent: God -28 points
Resurrection Magic -4 points
Reincarnation -4 points
Time Magic -10 points
>Demon Eyes
Clairvoyance Eye -2 points
>Blessings
Blurry -6 points
Future Sight -15 points
>Companions (7 companions)
Aurora Kingdragon
Marion Superd
Akotarakrab Raibaku
Audrey Birnkrant
Norah Bouldia
'Hawk Eye' Helen
Kara Migurdia
>Fate
Comfort +40%
Challenge +25% +50% | +75%
Romance +48% +50% | +98%
Influence +25% +50% | +75%
Survival +25%
Sense +71%
Martial Growth +25%
Magical Growth +53% +50% | +103%
Quest: Perfect Resurrection Magic +25%
My goal is Lara Greyrat. I'll let nothing stop me.
Magic stuff: Resurrection magic's necromancy instead of actual resurrection, but that might be because of a skill/knowledge issue instead of a hard limit. I want to see if actual resurrection is possible or if that branch caps at necromancy. I decided not to distract myself with the other stuff since summoning and magic arrays already give me what I want.
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Why is One Piece full of super powered old people? I’m more used to younglings being the bestest in anime.
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>>96642387
You're thinking of Custom Spell CYOA
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>>96643204
He simply said no romance between strawhats, if he wanted nami for himself he wouldn't make momonosuke grab her breasts, sanji be in nami's body or all the eye candy he does.
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>>96643154
>t. freethinker
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>>96641549
Are you new or just really paranoid about Tok?
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>>96643228
The old people simply retain some of their strength they had in their primes. So its Prime people (like Dragon) > Old people (like Garp) > younglings that didn't reach their primes (like Zoro)
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>>96643228
Because old people don’t lose their prime in a realm of plastic physics. Ignore what >>96643246 said. Big Mom is unhealthier than ever and she’s more powerful than ever.
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>>96643252
>Big Mom is unhealthier than ever and she’s more powerful than ever.
Weirdest character for me
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>>96642684
>she was in the right to fuck her nephew because her brother didn't wanna dick her
bro
>She has an harem of husbands and has 5 children all from different fathers.
Cause there was no one worthy. There's a sequence where rudeus sees what-ifs and he sees one where he's married to ariel and it's a good situation
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>>96643246
Pretty sure the Gorosei are stronger now than they were in their youth. Both politically and literally. All they need to do is transform or call upon the dark powers.
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>>96643230
Yes!
>2020
longer ago than it felt.
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>>96643230
Elements: Primal, Light, Knowledge
Spell type: Balance, Special
Magnitude: Artifact-Mythril
Give me something good anons
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>>96643252
>Because old people don’t lose their prime in a realm of plastic physics
Garp and Rayleigh comment several times their strength is worse because of their age.
>Big Mom is unhealthier than ever and she’s more powerful than ever.
Big mom is stronger than she was at God Valley, but there is no reason to think she is stronger shen she was when she was 48, for example, even Perospero commented it has been years since he saw her with agility (when he turned thin for a time) so she at least lost that stat.
And even then, she is on the younger side when compared to Garp, Whitebeard and Rayleigh, they all are at the end of their 70s, Big mom was 68. So they had more years to downgrade.
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>>96643279
>Garp and Rayleigh comment several times their strength is worse because of their age.
Yeah because they’re fruitless hacks
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>>96643275
ok
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>>96643265
>she was in the right to fuck her nephew because her brother didn't wanna dick her
>bro
I didn't say that. I explained that happened because the mc ignored her, in a hypothetical scenario where she is your waifu, she simply does not develop that way. What she did is bad to anyone with a brain. But we are talking about another her.
>Cause there was no one worthy. There's a sequence where rudeus sees what-ifs and he sees one where he's married to ariel and it's a good situation
That situation was portrayed as bad ending.
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>>96643279
Big Mom gains more power/viciousness the more calories she spends and the more weight she loses. That’s how she fights. Her literal rampage against the Straw Hats saw her losing weight in real time.

>>96643287
Do Devil Fruits draw upon stamina or mental strength? Her’s likely isn’t diminished with age since it’s just lolsouls which she can use to give life.
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>>96643267
Gorosei are special because they got powers from Imu.
I think Gorosei Garling > Young Garling > Old Garling. But that is because Gorosei Garling got upgrades from the devil.
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You now remember that old fat little chef man who casually turned an entire castle to cake and saved everyone from its collapse
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>>96643298
>Big Mom gains more power/viciousness the more calories she spends and the more weight she loses. That’s how she fights.
We already got her fights and that didn't happen. Its not a gimmick of her, it was her mental illness making her lose weight quickly because she was starving for a wedding cake, it was not a good thing as it developed to a poitn she was weakened for real, the only good moment was at the start when she got from fat to normal weight, then turned almost into a skeleton.
And again, it was because of her illness, tell me where she did the same against Law and Kidd or against Kaido.

>>96643287
>Yeah because they’re fruitless hacks
So I am right. And by the way, Whitebeard, that had the strongest paramecia, also was stated as weaker, and it wasn't only because of his illness, he simply grew weaker.
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>>96643323
The groomer of big mom? yeah.
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>>96643324
>And again, it was because of her illness, tell me where she did the same against Law and Kidd or against Kaido.
She didn’t need to exert herself as far. It’s that simple. She’s mentally a child despite her old age and it’s clear she never fights as hard as she could be - which only ever happens when she’s literally on a food rampage the likes we’ve only seen one time.
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>>96643323
I remember how he broke his hip doing that, which clearly was a gag about his age and being really old. He probably could do the same while young without breaking his hip.
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>>96643324
When it comes to Whitebeard, an older or weakened Whitebeard is a better fighter, or more experienced pirate, but lacks the potency of his younger years.

This is why you trade strength for expertise as you get older. It makes up for it. A roided bodybuilder will still lose to someone who knows how to take out people properly.
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>>96643344
>She didn’t need to exert herself as far.
So big mom riding zeus to pursue the mugiwaras for a few hours was more exerting the fighting kaido for 3 days or having a death battle against Law and Kidd where she used 1 year of her own lifespan and broke her bones? Come on.
>She’s mentally a child despite her old age and it’s clear she never fights as hard as she could be - which only ever happens when she’s literally on a food rampage the likes we’ve only seen one time.
Her rampage mental state is an illness that nerfs her, this is seen when the homies could not be controlled by her. Or like how Perospero was seriously worried she could starve to death.
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>>96643350
He’d probably break more bones considering he’d be younger and less familiar with his fruit powers.
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>>96643373
Yep. Her energy/intent is all the difference with calorie exertion. Stress will do a number on you.
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/cyoag/ - Anime discussion general
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>>96643365
"experience" does not work in the world of one piece. 55 yo Whitebeard demolishes 78 healthy whitebeard. Garp is the example of this, the guy had more experience than his younger self and complained about losing strength, and he is in a job where he fights constantly.
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>>96643378
>the 80-90 yo old grandpa broke his hip, but if he was younger he would break more bones because he is less experienced
Really?
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>>96643296
>That situation was portrayed as bad ending.
It really wasn't. It was a precarious situation since this happened while Rudeus was being attacked but the situation itself was fine until the illusion of paul appeared
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>>96643390
better than reddit retardation
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Fun fact: there's been almost no OR discussion in this thread, mfers are fighting ghosts now
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>>96643373
>So big mom riding zeus to pursue the mugiwaras for a few hours was more exerting the fighting kaido for 3 days or having a death battle against Law and Kidd where she used 1 year of her own lifespan and broke her bones? Come on.
Considering she lost weight in the former? Yes. Her mental faculties and physical reserves were being hyper spent purely because she wanted a fucking cake.
>Her rampage mental state is an illness that nerfs her, this is seen when the homies could not be controlled by her. Or like how Perospero was seriously worried she could starve to death.
All power comes with a cost. Her biggest and most absurd feat (when she literally took control of the waves) was during her freak out. I don’t think you understand how powerful it is, controlling the water itself - something that’s a direct counter to devil fruit users. Had she been more aware in the head, she could have easily drowned them out. We don’t even have a devil fruit with the ability to control or turn into water yet - just ice and vapor.
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>>96643460
the ghosts have hands fr fr
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>>96643403
Yes. We can’t be sure how more or less capable he was back then.

An old man juggling knives who’s been juggling knives for fifty+ years probably won’t cut himself as often. Although he’d still prefer his younger hands.

This is why turning an old experienced person back into their younger prime self is a lot more powerful than either alone - usually anyway.
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>>96643084
DFs are strongly influenced by their user and can have ridiculous limits if the user has enough imagination. It serves as a loose parallel to haki literally being willpower and therefore as variable as the user’s motivation. With enough imagination, DFs go fucking nuts. Borsalino is a low motivation government dog, his ability with haki and his DF is therefore naturally incredibly limited by his very nature. The real amazing thing is Garp managing to muster so much haki despite knowing he’s a damned dog, such is the power of the drums of oppression
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I aspire to be as uncaring and as relaxed as Borsalino
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Let’s not pretend that devil fruits are meant to be balanced, even realistically balanced… c’mon guys…
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>>96643373
>>96643468
I always took it she traded sanity/control for potency/power
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>>96643228
Because the powerhouses you see are the ones who retained and refined their will, even if they lost their true motivations (hence their losses). It’s survivorship bias
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>>96643496
Something you can't powerscale accuratly is shit. Simple as.
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>>96643506
Dude. One Piece is arguably one of THE most surreal cartoon settings out there. It is never ever going to be a serious setting ever. Ever. It’s a miracle that they made a live action show. I’m still doubting they will be able to adapt some of the more absurd arcs.
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If I could fall into an eternal dream world, any dream world, I would want it to be the world of One Piece. :)
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>>96643468
>Considering she lost weight in the former?
Because of her mental illness, she did not exert herself. She was literally riding a cloud.
>All power comes with a cost. Her biggest and most absurd feat (when she literally took control of the waves) was during her freak out. I don’t think you understand how powerful it is, controlling the water itself - something that’s a direct counter to devil fruit users. Had she been more aware in the head, she could have easily drowned them out. We don’t even have a devil fruit with the ability to control or turn into water yet - just ice and vapor.

You mistook that scene, I don't blame you, I also took it at first like she made a water homie, she didn't. The candy slug of Perospero, that homie, made the wave, the face of the tsunami is his. That homie was simply spalshing water and made that. And she didn't do that in the others fights because the other fights were on land.
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>>96643545
This but only if I get to be a celestial dragon
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>>96643545
>Wants to get raped by celestial dragons this badly
You are NOT awakening haki/eating a devil fruit bro
>>96643555
Same with you
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>>96643545
Why? I would fear the day I meet Hancock and turn into stone, or the day I meet any top tier and die. Realistically I don't have conquerors haki, its a 1 in 1M chance.At most I would get a good fruit with effort.
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>>96643562
Awakening haki with prior knowledge would not be hard. You could train yourself, observation haki training is the most simply "tie your eyes and use your instict" shit. Armament is probably punching things while using your willpower somehow.
Awakening conqueror is realistically not probable. Eating a devil fruit is probable if you survive enough, it being good is another thing.
With prior knowledge of the show and if starting in canon I join the beats pirates and camp for the time Big mom, Kaido and Orochi die, puff, you get 2 mythical zoans and 1 of the best paramecia with 0 effort. People in one piece do not like to hunt fruits unlike Bb for some reason.

Or if I am too coward to do that I go to Punk Hazard and become the pink dragon
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You get to be reincarnated in one piece, do you choose
>Training with one top tier of your choosing and guarantee you have potential for CoC
>Devil fruit of your choosing
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sorry for the wait
>>96643275

>Elements: Primal, Light, Knowledge
>Spell type: Balance, Special
>Magnitude: Artifact-Mythril

MITHRIL KNIFE OF KNOWLEDGE OF KNOWLEDGE
A knife that cuts out knowledges of knowledges.

The person wielding the knife can erase any person's knowledge of another person's knowledge (as a whole or in part). He can do this globally, for any specific person he concentrates on.

Example 1: Alice knows that Bob knows C++. You can erase Alice's knowledge. Now Alice no longer knows Bob knows C++.
Example 2: Alice knows that Bob knows how to walk on two legs. You can erase Alice's knowledge. Now Alice no longer knows Bob knows how to walk on two legs, but it doesn't mean she thinks Bob cannot walk on two legs, so there may not be much of an effect.
Example 3: You learn a secret about a hostile wizard. The hostile wizard learns that you learned his secret, and might take action against you. You erase the hostile wizard's knowledge of your knowledge of the secret, and he wanders off doing other things instead.
Example 4: There's a married couple. You erase their knowledges of each others' knowledges. Since that was integral to them as a married couple, they will become quite confused and addled. Their lives may be somewhat fucked by this.
Example 5: You try to erase some of Alice's knowledge of Bob's knowledge, except Alice doesn't know anything about Bob to begin with. Nothing happens.
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>>96643590
First one is infnitely best. I train with Garp, I become a Garp 2.0 like Koby, then the fruit will come by itself.
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>>96643593
>then the fruit will come by itself.
Unlikely
Even Blackbeard had to spend decades hunting for his specific fruit on whitebeard's crew and realised there was a high chance he'd never come across it
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>>96643604
That was because BB was hunting one specific fruit. I would not be like that, there is a lot of fruits I would eat without a second thought. BB was waiting for 1 specific fruit.

And if you join the marines they probably reserve some good fruits for good fighters, I doubt Akainu, Kizaru etc... got their fruits merely by finding them by chance. Even the Cp9 got some fruits from superiors (the ones they didn't know what they do)
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>>96643590
I feel like you can naturally learn haki, especially if you’ve already got that dog in you. I know I do. The perfect DF, on the other hand, is unlikely unless we consider the loosely alluded to will within them
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>>96643614
>Even the Cp9 got some fruits from superiors
enjoy your giraffe fruit
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>>96643630
They could choose to not eat it. I would not eat a fruit I don't know what it does. They treated the Cp9 like guinea pigs and they accepted it.
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>>96643629
You can learn haki but CoC is unlikely, 1 in 1M chance. And training from a top tier confirms you will be strong at least.
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>>96643553
Mental illness isn’t an excuse for such drastic weight loss in such a short amount of time sorry
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>>96643644
"Growth spurt" made koby from dwarf to average person and rearranged his whole face in like 2 months.
Sanji rearranged a whole face by kickint to make a person from ugly to attractive.
Sanji can self yeet himself by nose blood loss and its not only a gag but how the enemy discovered him so its a plot point.
Kidd and Luffy go from thin to fat to thin in literally seconds
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>>96643591
This feels like an offence or attack type spell
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>>96643553
>it’s not a liquid, it’s a liquid!
Water and oil share the same realm. You may as well control the waves if you have a wave-playing blob under your control.

Realistically speaking there’s nothing at all preventing Big Mom from controlling seawater the same way she controlled clouds/watervapor. She should be able to animate anything, even seastone.

Ask yourself why Vegapunk didn’t take over the setting. Because he didn’t feel like it. Silliness diffuses OPness.
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>>96643275
Not the cyoa author, but it's approaching 1 hour.

Your Artifact spell is the Star-Walker. It's a mithril space suit that lets you perceive and travel ridiculous distances.
Aside from being quite durable and allowing indefinite survival outside of Earth's atmosphere, it has the following two effects:
First, as long as you are looking through the visor (which protects from harmful radiation) you will see everything you possibly could as though you were focusing directly on it with inhuman precision, making distance basically irrelevant. An example would be picking out the individual people on two separate moving planes. However, this still does not let you see through matter, which is important if you wanted to look down from space.
Second, the suit has the ability to teleport to any area in view. There are two more restrictions on this: first, it takes a few seconds to activate the teleporter. Second, it's unable to cause any damage to anything; if you tried to teleport into something other than normal-temperature or cooler gasses or empty space, it fails. This also means it doesn't work to teleport into or out of black holes, or too close to stars.

Image sauce: Ben Erdt's Artstation.
Sorry if you don't like it, I couldn't come up with something more interesting that had to do with light, whatever "primal" means, and knowledge.
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>>96643656
That’s all physical. Big Mom lost a lot of weight -because- she was physically over exerting herself -due- to mental illness / an obsession for cake.

Just mentally willing yourself to lose weight isn’t possible. Not unless you sit for days and don’t eat. Big Mom lost it in mere hours. At no other moment did she ever exert herself as hard.
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>>96643591
Fuck, someone already responded. Sorry about that.
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>>96643663
DESU yes. I intended the meaning that Domain ~ works globally, you apply it all over the world.
But that's not what Domain meant when the author used it back then. Regardless I had already written the thing and decided to post it anyway.
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>>96643553
I’m pretty sure Oda immediately changed that so it wasn’t actually water to avoid a plot hole. Or he did it on purpose to make the user think she really was that strong.

Anyway. A water-water devil fruit should not exist.
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>>96643690
It's fine, and you made a cool artifact
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>>96643667
The candy slug, as its name says, its candy, not liquid. And the weakness of the devil fruit users is water, not all liquids.
>Water and oil share the same realm
Oil is not the weakness of df users.
>You may as well control the waves if you have a wave-playing blob under your control.
Okay...? Thats what I said, she used the candy slug to make the tsunami, not a water homie.
>Realistically speaking there’s nothing at all preventing Big Mom from controlling seawater the same way she controlled clouds/watervapor.
the difference is the arbitrary difference of that world, water = weakness, watervapor = not a weakness. We agree that ti should be more or less the same as they are in the end H2O but that world has its own rules.
>Ask yourself why Vegapunk didn’t take over the setting. Because he didn’t feel like it. Silliness diffuses OPness.
Because he doesn't have the time nor resources to do it. Pre time skip his best creation are pacifistas (fodder), post time skip is when he did something truly strong in seraphims, yet they are still in test phase and growing.

If Vegapunk had unlimited sources and time yes, he takes over the setting if he wanted it. He is a pacifist tho. A retard pacifist.
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>>96643553
She was riding on top of a blob of Peros' candy like a surfboard, but that tidal wave was actual water she manipulated with her power through candy fusion.

Being entirely honest, Perospero's candy was turned into a homie, then fused with the water and became a tidal wave before seemingly disappearing. What a huge waste. Where did all that sugar go?

It might be possible that she can only manipulate water if she has a water soluble homie, but even then it's just an extra step at most to having a water homie.

Tldr; The whole wave is the candy slug changing its consistency by absorbing more water, the whole wave is candy colored. It's not actually big mom turning water into a homie.
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>>96643684
>Just mentally willing yourself to lose weight isn’t possible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKRHLyKl_Pw
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>>96643700
>Oil is not the weakness of df users.
You’re missing the point. If you can control food colouring you’ve essentially gained control over food dyed water once you infect the water with food colouring.
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>>96643692
Either way we agree.
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Tok should not go to One piece's world, he would search for Bonney.
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>>96643700
>the difference is the arbitrary difference of that world, water = weakness, watervapor = not a weakness. We agree that ti should be more or less the same as they are in the end H2O but that world has its own rules.
None of this is affirmed. Nothing in the series has told us she can’t make water homies - which she technically already did with her clouds.

>Because he doesn't have the time nor resources to do it.
He actually did. He has the backing of the entire world government. He also made the most OP weapons imaginable. If he wasn’t a silly cartoon scientist and actually had a villainous streak he’d be a bigger threat than Imu. He could have very easily abused the resources handed to him, and he could have very easily buddied up with the Gorosei. But he didn’t.
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>>96643674
>>96643690
You did good!
>Sorry if you don't like it, I couldn't come up with something more interesting that had to do with light, whatever "primal" means, and knowledge.
You are free to use light and primal separately, but you can also combine them together into knowledge (in the table of elements), in which case the artifact is about knowledge twice. Both are fine, I think.
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>>96643713
That’s called hyper metabolism silly
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>>96643700
>its candy, not liquid
Gourmet candy makers would like a word
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lol devil fruit users lmao
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>>96643736
I am not even going to bother with the water homie. That she had to use a candy slug to make the wave instead of directly making a water homie should confirm it.
>He actually did. He has the backing of the entire world government.
That gave him a lot of resources, but not unlimited. He was also having to justify the fundings, look how Lilith wanted to steal from pirates, guess why.
And time wise, he does not have unlimited time.
>He also made the most OP weapons imaginable
Which is why with more time and resources he could do enough seraphims from enough top tiers to win wars on his own. But again, each seraphim is a fortune he has to justify to the government and put the command to make them obey the gorosei above him. And time wise he got the seraphims after the time skip, its a new creation he is still testing.

Is not like he had seraphims 10 years ago.

>If he wasn’t a silly cartoon scientist and actually had a villainous streak he’d be a bigger threat than Imu. He could have very easily abused the resources handed to him, and he could have very easily buddied up with the Gorosei. But he didn’t.
I would say Imu with Domi reversi is way more dangerous than Vegapunk even if he had unlimited resources and like 10 years of prep time. I find Vegapunk with UNLIMITED time and resources more dangerous, but as he is now not that much compared to Imu.
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>>96643731
Isn't that Hus? Tok likes ugly woman instead
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>>96643766
Reee why is science like magic reee it’s not fair reee devil fruits are supposed to be magic reee reeeeeee
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>>96643731
You wouldn't?
>>96643776
Hus has good taste then. Tok would search for old big mom.
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>>96643784
Everyone would.
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>>96643773
>That gave him a lot of resources, but not unlimited
It was enough.
>Which is why with more time and resources
You only need one of those guns to take out the strongest fighters in the series lol.

>I would say Imu with Domi reversi is way more dangerous than Vegapunk
Until Vegapunk figures out how it works.
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>>96643777
Science is basically magic in this universe. Nami goes to some floating island to study under weather specialized scientists who all look like wizards.
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>>96643800
He can't even figure out logias or how to make a true paramecia, he is not going to figure out literal magic book spell. That's unrealistic.
>gun
the bubble gun only work on fodder df users, everyone important would swat them away.
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>>96643773
>I would say Imu with Domi reversi is way more dangerous than Vegapunk even if he had unlimited resources and like 10 years of prep time. I find Vegapunk with UNLIMITED time and resources more dangerous, but as he is now not that much compared to Imu.
How do you even come to the conclusion of how long it would take or how much it would cost. Rates of scientific development are never the same. In times of war it’s vastly, desperately sped up. It could be a year, it could be ten years.
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>>96643818
>He can't even figure out logias or how to make a true paramecia, he is not going to figure out literal magic book spell. That's unrealistic.
It’s all physics. He already cracked the shell or surface of devil fruit science. He’d likely go on to make superior ones.
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>>96643818
>the bubble gun only work on fodder df users, everyone important would swat them away
This is like saying an important person could just swat away seastone bindings. Big Mom couldn’t even do that.
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Vegapunk is “five hundred years ahead of current technology” so I don’t know how he hasn’t made literal super devil fruits.

Oh wait. It’s because he’s obsessed with other shit.
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>>96643773
We don’t know enough about domi reversi desu. I’m hoping it has some serious limitations, because Oda can’t be trusted with that sort of plot device
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>>96643851
No, you are saying like throwing someone a seastone stone would defeat them. They would swat them away or dodge. Your scenario is with them already trapped.
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>>96643865
Because current tech is hundreds of years behind the one the world had before.
Vegapunk 99% of the time is simply replicating things from the Void Century.
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Vegapunk is the most powerful character in One Piece he’s just too cartoonish to save himself from his embarrassment.

>>96643818
…Vegapunk artificially recreated the rarest types of Devil Fruits… the mythical Zoans…

He recreated Kaido’s. That’s so dumb it’s just terrible writing.
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>>96643230
>5, 7, 7, 4
Light, Primal, Movement

Defence, Special

Greater
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>>96643870
Sorry. Bubble wins.
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>>96643877
Yeah that makes sense. Imagine if Israel hoarded all the world’s science after some global catastrophe set us back centuries.
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>>96643889
Rarest does not mean hardest to do. Making animal fruits looks way more easy than becoming elements or the esoteric bullshit of the paramecia.
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>>96643904
Hardest to do? They’re all devil fruits. They all share dna. You really think he wouldn’t be able to crack the entire thing at some point? Of course he would.
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>nooo, science doing a thing is le bad, nooo
>nooo, only magic can do a thing, nooo
>nooo, science is totally not magic, nooo
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Rolled 12 (1d15)

1-2-3: weak paramecia
4-5: goodparamecia
6: top paramecia
7-8-9: normal zoan
10-11: ancient zoan
12: mythical
13-14: bad logia
15: good logia
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>>96643933
rollan
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Oda you stupid retard the Buddha is NOT a mythical animal what the FUCK is WRONG with you IT’S THE MOTHER FUCKING BUDDHA
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>>96643927
We don’t have to speculate, Vegapunk straight up said it’s beyond his capabilities with his time/budget. Just doing a mythical zoan, zoan being the easiest class to replicate, almost broke the bank and he could only ever afford to make one. Once he realized that DFs are reality-bending bullshit he probably reprioritized
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>>96643927
At some point? maybe. But that is like saying if you give me 1 trillion of years I could discover every single law of the universe on my own. Vegapunk has been dealing with devil fruits for decades, since at least they trapped kaido and got his DNA, so at least 2 decades before canon. Yet he can't make logias and has to do walmart paramecias.

And no, not all devil fruits are the same just because they are devil fruits. Obviously making a cow fruit is nowhere near as hard making a fruit tha lets you become light and create energy ex nihilo.
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I wish people didn't discuss animes I don't know here, and only discussed animes that I know
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>>96643952
>We don’t have to speculate, Vegapunk straight up said it’s beyond his capabilities with his time/budget
>beyond his capabilities with his time/budget
So you’re saying you agree that he’d be able to crack all three devil fruits had he not been in such a shit position. Got it.

This discussion reminds me of world of darkness players yelling at me for pointing out that archmages are more powerful than ancient god-vampires if they have all the time and resources. “Yeah well they won’t!”. Hilarious.
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>>96643933
Mythical? Jackpot! A western dragon, a hydra or just orochi's would be fine. Basically any mythical that is not the monk one from the fox side character.
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>>96643938
I guess I get the position of mid-boss, AKA jobber.
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>>96643958
So give him a few more hypothetical decades then. Not sure why you’re saying it’ll take a trillion years.
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>>96643978
Mid-Boss is a good character.
With bad logia I meant a logia like smoker or monet's, just not on the level of the truly op ones. That should be still be enough to theorically reach the level of someone like king.
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>>96643958
Correct. The most powerful devil fruits are easier to make/replicate than the weakest devil fruits.

Isn’t that funny? Keklolkek.
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>>96643865
What the other guy said, also his perfectionism might be holding him back on the devil fruit front, since he threw away the 99% perfect one he did make just because the color didn't match the real thing.
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>>96643983
Vegapunk is already old, he is dying of dementia in 5 years max.
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>>96643967
Matterheroine, I can nuke the middle east if I have all the time and resources. I'm stronger than Kaido.
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>>96643958
All he needed is DNA. There are mythical Zoans that turn you into an element, like the Phoenix.

That alone implies Vegapunk wasn’t all that far from cracking Devil Fruits, since it’s sourced to the user not the fruit.
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>>96643933
LET'S GO LOGIA
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Rolled 6 (1d15)

>>96643933
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>>96644007
You jest, but the Technocracy nuked a third of fucking India to deal with a rampaging vampire god, Team America style. They couldn’t contact their super-scientists in time so they had to smash the big red button.

Yes bombs are magic. Fuck off.
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>>96644018
wtf is a top paramecia, big mom's fruit?
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>>96644015
Just when I was feeling good about it at least not being a bad fruit, this >>96644018
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>>96644000
He took out his brain and split it apart into different personalities. You think he can’t figure out immortality?
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>>96643933
I have never watched one piece but I'm very confident I could solo the entire setting
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>>96644041
you get a shit fruit like the gomu gomu fruit
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>>96644041
no way, I'm just going for a swim in the ocean
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>>96644030
whitebeard's, big mom's law's. That kind
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>>96644058
>gomu gomu
>shit fruit
it literally carries the mc
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Rolled 14 (1d15)

>>96643933
I would have conquerors haki for sure
I'm built different
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>>96644093
That's the Nika Nika fruit
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>>96644099
its the same fruit. Althought that means he can't pick the gomu gomu because its a mythical zoan
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>>96644093
that's the joke
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>>96643967
But anon that’s fucking retarded. You’re saying if you multiply anything by infinity it’s the best. No shit
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>>96644119
>bellamy gaining enough momentum, training his haki and boy to be the strongest thing in the universe could defeat any. He just needs unlimited time and training
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>>96644119
That’s how science works. You work for it. It has the most potential.
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you would get the jobber jobber fruit
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I realize Koyanskaya of Light is literally the science autistics. You truly are Beasts that hate humanity
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Oda doesn’t even care for power levels he just wants to write for the fun of it.
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>>96644229
False, haki transcends all
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>>96644269
The guy who said this lost because the other guy had a better fruit btw
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>>96644274
Dragon fruit > Nika. Luffy fought with an awakened fruit against unawakened and almost lost despite all the support and tries.
Anyway, haki trascends all
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>>96644288
He was tired from getting killed 3 times. Please understand
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>>96644274
Kaido was kinda throwing by being a fightfag from the start. He could have future sight dodged everything, but he was just tanking blows and brawling with literally everyone the entire night. I’m pretty sure by the end he was unironically pulling a Katakuri. And all that’s because his will had been broken for a very long time. Regardless, you can’t really blame a guy for getting worn down when a literal cartoon starts slamming you into the floor
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Okay post Danmachi now
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Rolled 5 (1d15)

>>96643933
Let's see
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>>96644288
>Dragon fruit > Nika.
KEKAROOOOOO
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>>96644331
? Its what we saw.
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>>96644317
so close... OP anons give me some good paramecia examples.
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Vegapunk's fruit is the strongest.
Brain>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else.
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>>96644354
no it's not retard.
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>>96644360
Buggy's
Mr.5's
Robin's
Moria's
Kid's
Bonney's
Urouge's
Hawkins's
Sanjuan's
Pica's
Katakuri's (because is logia like)
Doc Q's
Burguess's
Augur's
Some like that
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>>96644376
Compare unawakened nika with unawakened dragon. The dragon looked way more impressiv in everything, and could fight nika's awakened version. Awakened dragon trashes Nika, who probably is the chosen fruit because it can counter domi reverse and/or imu, not because of its strength
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>>96644361
This. Smoov brains just don’t understand.
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>>96644420
Kiss me brother, with my brain (that we will use as a bed to have hot steamy sex) I will discover how to make a baby between two men, then as we are raising our child I will discover how to turn you into a hot chick hotter than hancock because I am NOT gay.
Our big brains will dominate everything. Brain > everything else.
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>>96644361
>>96644420
>>96644437
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>>96644399
>fruit that was literally just awakened vs fruit used has had for decades
Compare what bonney achieved with a bootleg nika vs what momo did with the dragon fruit
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>>96644470
bonney did 1 attack with bootleg nika, an attack that at best was part of pushing a gorosei, with franky and sanji.
Momo with the dragon fruit hurt kaido, so that makes the animal form have better ap than G4 start of wano Luffy. Blasted throught Greenbull's body who in theory was fireproof. And slowly lowered a whole island.

The amount of decades of kaido with the fruit does not matter when Luffy had better mastery of his, given he awakened and kaido didnd't. And awakened fruit > same fruit but with more decades of experiences but without awakening.
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>>96644446
perfect
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What happened to ultimate god? Been almost a year.

https://imgchest.com/p/vj4jq5wqe78
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Rolled 12 (1d15)

>>96643933
What I get is irrelevant because I use a crossbow with seastone bolts and jump people
If anyone like me lived in that setting they would have taken over in approximately 2 weeks
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>>96644493
Bonney was able to keep up with Nika luffy and gorosei members and landed blows.
Momo was being played around with by greenbull and Kaido and his breath with which he allegedly hurt greenbull is the same attack that luffy completely shrugged off from kaido before he even got gear 5 so either momo's attack was stronger than kaido's (it wasn't) or greenbull has shit durability/was playing along

Kaido had much higher base stats than luffy and better genes from being a freak race, of course luffy needed awakening to even the field. THis isn't down to the fruit it's down to the user. And from what we've seen, the nika fruit is top tier versatility + toonforce. Nothing a mythical zoan can keep up with
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>>96644561
That strategy gets countered by haki, which trascends all and dodging, that in Piccolo's words, also trascends all
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Fruits are irrelevant when a hack writting punch beats all of them no matter what.
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>>96644569
The "keep up" scalling is flawed. With that logic Franky also "kept up" with them and he didn't get a single power up since time skip. So franky > Luffy until nika I guess.

Momo hurt kaido, which means his ap > G4 start of wano Luffy.
Momo could burn greenbull's fire proof forest. He was weaker than those two but what he was doing was merely with the animal form and he being a fodder with the mind of a 8 years old without haki.
But if you don't like boro's breath feat, Momo biting Kaido hurt kaido more than the same guy that defeated katakuri, the second strongest of a yonko crew.
>Kaido had much higher base stats than luffy and better genes from being a freak race, of course luffy needed awakening to even the field. THis isn't down to the fruit it's down to the user. And from what we've seen, the nika fruit is top tier versatility + toonforce. Nothing a mythical zoan can keep up with
the toonforce comes from awakening, which again, is not comparable to a non awakened fruit. Luffy after acoc does not have much worse base stats than Kaido. Flame Drum bagua is also a pure devil fruit attack plus acoc, Luffy was lucky he learnt to attack without touching or he was getting melted.

All the feats that could make the nika fruit better come from an awakening with a very limited time limit vs an unawakened fruit. I would prefer the dragon fruit unawakened than awakened 2 pump chump nika, let alone if the dragon fruit awakened.
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>>96644306
It’s right here. In the Tok thread! Go!
>>96630475
>>96630483
>>96630489
>>96630496
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>>96644561
My regal aura does it again
Something high mobility, with teleportation/stealth/perception abilities
>>96644575
The whole point is to attack where it is unexpected, if they have time to react something has gone wrong
Unless they had full body haki on the whole time, in which case just wait until they run out
If they can blare it consistently pick off the rest of their team and burn their boat
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>>96644616
Tok if you swear you will become my personal cum dumpster I will go there and spare you like 1 message
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>>96644629
ANON HE HAS STD'S DON'T DO IT
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>>96644627
>Something high mobility, with teleportation/stealth/perception abilities
of the known fruits only the kyubi one I guess.
>The whole point is to attack where it is unexpected, if they have time to react something has gone wrong
observation haki exists. Shanks was chilling on his boat and read Kid's attacks. So its also passive.

You have a mythical zoan but the invisible paramecia is better for your strategy, with it awakened you can probably one tap all devil fruit users by getting the first hit if you are in ideal conditions and not against someone with future sight.
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>>96644627
>The whole point is to attack where it is unexpected, if they have time to react something has gone wrong
If only hack writing had a power that perfeclty counters surprice attacks!
Maybe something to enhance perception...
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>>96644635
me too. We can change them like cards
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>>96644547
>reddit god
got thrown into the trashbin of history right where it belongs
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>>96644661
man I hope they invent perception haki
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Remember that time anon asked Tok if he really fucked a horse and Tok replied with “yes” and like three paragraphs of WHY he did what he did
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Rolled 12 (1d15)

>>96643933
Let's see how I do, I don't think my chances of getting conquerors are great so I'll probably want to use observation Haki to fight at extreme ranges where the AoE can't reach.
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>>96644692
Another mythical zoan, this is wano, where a lot of zoans get in the story.
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>>96644688
He was obviously lying.
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>>96644656
If observation haki can read everything then I only need to develop an observation flashbang
If they let anything slip under the radar I make a poisoned dart that slips under
If they keep the radar high in consistently send the cheapest flicker of malice I can to keep them up and tense 24/7
At this level I assume walls cannot stop me. Not in a magic way, I'll just shoot very hard
>>96644661
I dropped one piece like 100 episodes in, I don't actually know how that works beyond there being defense that makes you black, offense that only cool guys have and observation
Is it really always on, always aware?
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>>96644688
Yes. I changed "haha tok funny" to he really has a mental problem.
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>>96644705
But he DOES have an std, if not several
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>>96644615
Kinemon hurt kaido, kiku hurt kaido, Killer hurt kaido. Do you put their ap at above g4 start of wano luffy?
>Luffy after acoc does not have much worse base stats than Kaido
He definetely does considering Kaido who has been already weakened a lot by his fights with the scabbards+supernovas+yamato still defeats him once in a fair fight and once in an unfair fight. This can't all be shrugged off to the devil fruit.
>Flame Drum bagua is also a pure devil fruit attack plus acoc
You literally see them touch in the manga. It's just a bite move.
>a very limited time limit
Luffy has been shown to restart his heart before if needed, the time limit is more a plot thing than anything else at this point.
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Rolled 2 (1d12)

As I saw some mythical zoans and I am one myself I will make another list to reroll, I wouldn't like taking one from canon.
1. Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Fenghuang
2. Ōkami Ōkami no Mi, Model: Fenrir
3. Hebi Hebi no Mi, Model: Medusa
4. Uma Uma no Mi, Model: Sleipnir
5. Ryu Ryu no Mi, Model: Quetzalcoatl
6. Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Garuda
7. Neko Neko no Mi, Model: Bakeneko
8. Oni Oni no Mi, Model: Shuten-dōji
9 Hebi Hebi no Mi, Model: Jörmungandr
10. Kame Kame no Mi, Model: Genbu
11. Neko Neko no Mi, Model: Byakko
12. Ryu Ryu no mi, Model: western dragon
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Found it

Anon
> Tok did you actually have sex with a horse. Asking for a friend

Tok
> Yes, I have always wanted to fuck a centaur and a real horse is the closest I can get so why not? Everything in todays world can be bought and sold. So if I can afford it, why should I deny myself such an delightful and unique experience? There is no reason, life should be lived to it's fullest. It was a once in a lifetime experience and I will always remember it fondly. Horses have such powerful bodies and I feelt that power when I thrust into that horse. The added centaur immersion I got from listening to a fiver voice actress roleplay as a centaur girl while I pumped that horse pussy contributed to such an immersive experience. I wish technology could allow me to upload my memory of it and that you could download this memory and feel and see my experience. Then and only then would you realize just how golden that experience was.

> I believe in Epicureanism. Pleasure is the ultimate good and experiencing pleasure is what gives life meaning. But pleasure must be pursued with moderation and wisdom. Too much of something good, will eventually turn to something bad. Discipline is key when it comes to pleasure.
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I hope you all save/archive your favorite Tok posts
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>>96644692
Damn, so I get to pretty much have a paramecia ability + zoan transformation, very nice. My fruit would probably be some sort of coward or trickster archetype given I'm not a particularly combative person though the opposite would be funny. I suppose there's not really any bad devil fruits, only bad users (There are obviously the greats like most logias and the darkness fruit but those are more specfically good than others specifically bad
>>96644744
Lets see.
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>>96644730
>Kinemon hurt kaido, kiku hurt kaido, Killer hurt kaido. Do you put their ap at above g4 start of wano luffy?
Scabbards used Ryuo, which is dura neg. Killer used sound, which is dura neg. Momo used pure strength from his jaws, like Luffy with his hits.
>He definetely does considering Kaido who has been already weakened a lot by his fights with the scabbards+supernovas+yamato still defeats him once in a fair fight and once in an unfair fight. This can't all be shrugged off to the devil fruit.
It can. That plus kaido being better at using acoc.
>You literally see them touch in the manga. It's just a bite move.
Read pic
>Luffy has been shown to restart his heart before if needed, the time limit is more a plot thing than anything else at this point.
Luffy showed it once, and Kaido said if he continues he will die, so its once of those "burn lifespan" moves. The fact is Luffy is 2 pump chump
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>>96644776
>Lets see.
The byakko in theory is the rival of the azure dragon so it should be a fruit on the level of Kaido's.
Mine is Fenrir's, which I guess gives a very big size, good hybrid form, some chains if you want to use myth and a shit ton of stats.
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>>96641718
>「 Paper Back Writer 」
Taking the form of a bespectacled gentleman in a turtleneck, the amber-colored「 Paper Back Writer 」follows you around, invisible to all except stand users.
Constantly curious, he will float to anywhere within 25 feet of you, always examining things.
However, within that 25 foot sphere, he is able to alter reality based on things within the sphere.

Is there a puddle? Now there is a minor ocean.
Fine food? There is a 50-foot wide spread of the same laid out at a whim.
Nearby a beautiful women and a modest one? Make them both equal to the finest parts of either.

While「 Paper Back Writer 」is powerful, it is also limited by your own imagination and willpower which are drained with every activation. The strain increases with the magnitude of changes, and too much and you'll be in a fugue state, listless for up to four hours.
Anything leaving the sphere will slowly revert over the course of a few hours. The water rapidly dries. Your fine meal would feed a group, but leftovers will wither away. The beauty lasts only as long as the evening, like a fairy godmother's spell.
You are ALWAYS within the sphere, but adjustments to yourself will be a constant minor drain, or a quite taxing one if you dramatically alter yourself. You can take a bird's wings to become an angelic figure, but may forget why you did it in the first place.
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>>96644616
‘Firefly’

Path: Adventurer
-Race: Human(+willpower)

No Scenario (no multiplayer)

Training:
-Rank 1 Scheming(free)
--Rank 2 Scheming -3pts (as cunning as the gods)

Level Up +3 -15pts
-Development: Mage -1pt (I’m a wizard)
--Development: Abnormal Resistance (G rank by level 5)
---Development: Lifesteal -2pts (synergy with Drain+bugs)

Skills:
-Affinity(fire) -2pts (I’m a fire wizard)
-Metamagic -8pts (spell synergy + spell tinkering)

Magic:
-Drain -2pts (synergy with Lifesteal+bugs)
-Swarm -3pts (homing bugs)
-Spirit Fire -4pts (+bugs = ‘fireflies’)

Canon God: Ganesha Familia (largest familia with eleven level 5s)

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I win. You cannot beat me. I’m too smart.
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>>96644797
You know what, white tiger is my personal favourite animal so we take these, apparently its associated with metal so it probably has good defense and some sort of ability to create with metal given how kaidous flame clouds work.
Your Fafnir fruit probably also has some area related cold effect given the association with Fimbulwinter, perhaps it switches between chains for 1v1 and unchained+frost for area and group combat.
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>>96644754
Do you have the one where he admits to fucking his sister?
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>>96644854
He admitted he couldn't fuck her and living with her was all the bad from having a gf without any of the good.
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>>96644780
>Scabbards used Ryuo, which is dura neg.
Their swords pierced kaido. That's not dura neg.
>It can
No it cannot. Even if you consider kaido's fruit to be better, they're both mythical zoans and kaido has taken massive amount of damage and strain up to this point from carrying onigashima.
>Read pic
Read mine. Plus you see luffy's fist make contact when he win the clash.
>Luffy showed it once, and Kaido said if he continues he will die,
It was also said basic gear abilities would shorten luffy's lifespan. So does big mom's fruit with strengthening techniques. At some point, it's part of what you have to pay for power. Kaido didn't need to because his base stats were much higher than luffy and luffy had to rely on his busted fruit to make up for the difference.
Finally there's also the possibility that kaido was awakened. We saw the impel down wardens who all were and they didn't have the cloud thing either.
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Go make a One Piece general on /a/ you faggots
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Go make a One Piece cyoa you faggots.
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>>96644843
LOOK MOM I POSTED THE OP BUILD AGAIN
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>>96644709
It’s not. It’s established from as far back as Skypeia that Observation haki requires focus and we often see characters with even advanced observation haki take shots they really shouldn’t if it was always on. High tiers get very good at using it passively, though.
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>>96644895
there are at least two One Piece CYOAs already, but I guess they were too lazy to post those
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>>96644973
Simplicity can be just as much fun as complexity, a simple one post RYOA can be as much fun as a multi-page behemoth because it strikes a good balance between creativity and restriction.
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>>96644973
Probably because they suck. It’s a rare cyoa that can be good and set firmly in a preexisting universe
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>>96644973
They're dogpoop tho.
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>>96644993
>It’s a rare cyoa that can be good and set firmly in a preexisting universe
Yeah like Danmachi and Mushoku Tensei
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The reason One Piece cyoas are dogshit is ironically because Oda did too good of a job with the worldbuilding leaving almost nothing to the imagination. CYOAs require some blank space in order for the player to fill. The One Piece world is so interconnected and intricate that a you'd feel like a background npc if you were to get isekaied, everything important has already been filled by some other character.
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>>96645070
that's why being a celestial dragon and collecting characters you find interesting is the way to go
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>>96645070
I would just need "good genetics" "conqueror haki potential", starting some years before canon, a crew and maybe if greedy some fruit. With that you can't ba e background npc.
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If only one piece was good
Imagine if there was a real writer, or if oda was >93 iq
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>>96645019
>shonen sloppa slurper's strict standards
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>>96645081
Celestial dragons will die. Wanting to be one in the era of Luffy is courting death. I know you want to do picrel but Luffy is destined to win
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>>96645104
just dissapear to some private island during the timeskip
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>>96645104
Tell me what happened after this panel.
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>>96645070
I have a 0.2 wip of a one piece cyoa, the problem is I am busy now and I made maybe too much oc companions. And I also wanted to include "discarded seraphims" that vegapunk would have discarded because of a minor problem because of his perfectionism, from the strawhats, law, uta etc... maybe some day I will finish it. But I would prefer if someone did a proper cyoa as mine would be interactive.
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>>96645151
I don't know, you can guess.
>>96645137
Living in commoner's place would make you stop being a tenryuubito like Doffy's family, which stops you from gaining from your advantages, being safe and keeping your slaves.
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>>96645070
I think it’s the opposite, actually. There is TONS of blank space, a whole century even, but you don’t want to use it because you’re so invested in what’s been shown. Sure there’s a thousand years and a thousand islands to explore, but if Nico Robin ain’t there I ain’t goin
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>>96645169
>True Love
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>>96645159
Obligatory seraphim Nico Robin then
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>>96645182
You can't compare literal rape with making fate make a woman fall in love with you
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>>96645169
private island
PRIVATE
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>>96645203
>You can't compare literal rape with fate-rape.
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>>96645169
She shouldn't have dressed as a total slut if she didn't want this to happen to her.
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>>96645211
What makes an island private? One day away from a pirate invanding it.
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>>96645224
She only had the bikini top showing, the bikini bottom means they removed her pants for the introduction of her new master.
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>>96645233
personal cp0 contingent with kalifa and stussy
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>>96645183
Seraphim robin would be op, you could teach her haki finally, her limbs have lunarian durability and strnegth (demon form would be stat wise a monsters), lunarian fire, good stats can read poneglyphs by the memory of her DNA and when she grows up she would be a chocolate hottie.
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>>96645259
You can't do that. Cp0 protect tenryuubito in generals, they are not enough to spare for each tenryuubito that wants to be autistic. Rmemeber there is 19 families each with several children and adults, like Doffy's family having at least 2 whole heads or Pete's having also like 3 whole heads.
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Genderbend all celestial dragons then turn them into sex slaves, see how they like it.
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>>96645280
>You can't do that.
source?
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>>96645291
I won't fuck genderbend charlos even with someone's dick, let alone mine.
The only genderbend character I support is Law because she is canonically and hot.
And as we are talking about that, >>96645159
Law seraphim should be fem Law, and she was discarded because Vegapunk made her accidentantly a girl and not a guy, done, I improved the cyoa by 300%
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>>96645330
There is like 15 Cp0 agents and hundreds of Tenryuubitos. This is like asking that each person in the world should have 1 police officer with them all the time.
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>>96645332
>tattoos
disgusting
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cyoas?
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>>96645351
I like tattoos :(
How about this one? She doesn't have tattoos.
>>96645332
Law is fem Law, it couldn't be done other way.
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someone make a dog nigga cyoa
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>>96645378
I have OC. Make me laugh and I will post it
>>96645390
wtf is that?
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>>96644917
It’s not even overpowered you just need to take combat 3 to beat him
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The fact Apotheosis hasn't made a One Piece cyoa still surprises me to this day.
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>>96645347
who says the others have asked for a personal one
But alright I'll stop being greedy and just ask for kalifa during the timeskip when she's not yet a cp0 agent
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>>96645410
>who says the others have asked for a personal one
that they don't have one when marinejoia is attacked.
>But alright I'll stop being greedy and just ask for kalifa during the timeskip when she's not yet a cp0 agent
that would be better, yeah, the problem is if his father is really an important member as he was a partner of Spandam's father who can pull strings.
The best time would be after they got expelled from failing enies lobby and before they re enter the government as cp0, as during that time she is a criminal technically. But you would need someone strong to trap her.
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>>96645434
>>96645410
All of this for Luffy to appear and kill you all LMAO. Tenryuubito destined to die.
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>>96645456
Luffy doesn't kill silly.
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>>96645502
tell that to kaido in his new swimming pool. And tell that to his dad and the revolutionaries, they will do a france against nobility.
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>>96645434
>is really an important member
So? It's a fucking mission. There's no reason they should or even would want to refuse
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>>96645512
you know you dont' want Kalifa for "protection" alone.
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>>96645529
She has experience as a secretary and she has a cleaning fruit. That's enough
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>>96645609
>enough
disappointing, she has more uses
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>>96645635
If that lie worked on you, it'll work on the cipher pol administration
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>>96645646
I doubt it, I am very dumb
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>>96643226
>calculated the fate %
Based
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>>96643226
>Akotarakrab Raibaku
One guy in the harem? shameful. Should have picked Oma
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>>96644973
What these guys said,
>>96645019
>>96644993
There is a pretty decent nsfw(?) waifu/husbandopicker.

But anyway, what would you guys like to see from a One Piece cyoa?

>Race
>Rank/Group
>Skills
>Ship
>Items (fruit included)
>Crew
>Companions
>Quests

I feel like it would be pretty straight forward so where did the other ones go wrong?
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>>96645694
>One guy in the harem?
That's because it wasn't meant to be a harem, I'm just not feeling Pascal or Santino, and Leon and Enzo feel too tied to places I don't care about. I mainly chose people based on their potential usefulness and whether they seemed fun to hang out with. Not going to pretend I'm not a perv tho, if a harem happens I won't complain.
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>>96645822
>Race
Alright.
>Rank/group
What does this mean exactly?
>Skills
Alright
>Ship
Alright
>Items
Alright
>Crew
Alright, but some oc characters would be fine.
>Companions
I kinda included them with crew but yeah
>Quests
Alright

the blue one has the problem of being too short in everything, having objectively way better options and its faction mechanic.
It's too short in everything, by which I mean that everyone that saw the anime/manga can read the cyoa and see each section could have twice as many options at least.
Some options barely matter, like do you want to have 3x strength at the start or have conqueror haki?
The faction mechanic make going pirate to get a free race and devil fruit > everything else
And the crew is a "build your crew"
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>>96645865
adding to that, the skill section is weird. So only those 9 things occured to the maker? with the amount of buffs in one piece? "great doctor, cook, shipwright", "strength buff at the start", and be smart. The perks themselves are kinda bad, too few and not important ones.

And then there is advanced conqueror haki as an option that simply is better than anything else together.
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Can everyone here please describe themselves in 3 attributes?
Vague ones preferred
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>>96645896
Omnipotent, Omniscience, Omnipresent
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>>96645896
Femenine, boy, sexy
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>>96643776
>>96643784
>>96643792
She's good(And extremely broken damn) but personally I would go for S-snake.

>>96645896
Based
Intelectual
Gentleman
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>>96645938
>but personally I would go for S-snake.
why?
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>>96645896
Intelligent
Nihilistic
Wicked sense of humor
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>>96645942
I dunno I long ago fell off the one piece bandwagon so I don't know almost anything about her while s-snake is just Boa Hancock 2.0
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>>96645896
Quirky
Hot
Cool
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>>96645910
>Femenine
Add ESL as one of your attributes.
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>>96646010
>ESL Femboy
Disgusting
I will only ever fuck femboys of the highest quality, with good education and decent capacity
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>>96645896
>vague physical quality (because my ego needs it)
>vague social quality (because I'm a natural leader in my head)
>vague intellectual quality (because the uneducated masses just don't get me)
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What are the best kinds of drawbacks?
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>>96646118
Sexual ones.

>>96645896
White
Male
Rational
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>>96646124
I probably should have been more specific. What's the cyoa with the best drawbacks you've seen?
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>>96646124
>2 of the 3 things that define his being is his skin color and sex.
That's kinda sad not gonna lie.
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>>96646118
For me, it's the drawbacks that double as plot hooks or change how you approach your build mechanically.
The two examples that comes to mind are the World Shift section in Witch Awakening, or the Vows in the Angel CYOA.
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>>96646118
Removable ones, and ones that reward you for doing so.
>>96646130
Theia Mania by unDEFINED.
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>>96646203
>Removable ones, and ones that reward you for doing so.
>The best drawbacks are the ones that aren't drawbacks
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>>96645896
>Racist
>Misanthropic
>Irrational
I win again.
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>>96646176
Another example. The drawbacks here are interesting enough, aren't impossible to deal with, inform you about the setting and its possibilities, and could be seen as mini-scenarios (or at least their beginnings).
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>>96646118
Drawbacks that are connected to the cyoa itself and would provide a challenge within context. Generic status debuff drawbacks are just not very interesting. Also there's nothing that I hate more than those retarded "no more sex for you lmao" drawbacks.
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>>96646225
>>96646124
>4chan is my personality
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>>96646118
Things that change life without openly making things worse
Things that I want to do but made more demanding
Temporary drawbacks are fine because anyone who isn't a jobber can use time and energy to get stronger
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>>96646223
>Retard assumes that just because drawbacks aren't permanent they are easy to remove.
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>>96646252
We are playing imagination games by definition they are all easy to remove as your only true limit is your imagination.
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>>96646118
Removable ones, where removing them poses a noticeable enough opportunity cost to hurt a lot if you don't build properly for it. This is nearly impossible without some time-dependent choices though, like A Bit More Effort (though it doesn't have drawbacks).

>>96646130
None. They're a balancing nightmare.
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>>96646272
>Removable ones, where removing them poses a noticeable enough opportunity cost to hurt a lot if you don't build properly for it. This is nearly impossible without some time-dependent choices though, like A Bit More Effort (though it doesn't have drawbacks).
Basedest possible answer
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>>96646264
>We are playing imagination games by definition they are all easy to remove as your only true limit is your imagination.
Why even bother playing cyoas at all then? Just play this >>96645907 and jerk off forever as you imagine yourself "winning".
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>>96646264
>imagination games
You silly goose. They're puzzles, and deviating from what's written is not playing it correctly.
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>>96646281
That's literally your position.
>Ugh I'll take the drawback that limits my cap until I suck a thousand dicks heh I can do that in a few days!
At least permanent drawbacks can force you to actually play around them like only being able to use magic while sucking your own cock.
That's real challenge.

>>96646283
Correct and having removable drawbacks takes away the point of the puzzle instead of having to solve it you grind until it solves itself.
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There must be a middle ground between puzzles and imagination games.
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>>96646304
puzzles are games though
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>>96646304
You will accept my interpretation.
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>>96646298
>At least permanent drawbacks can force you to actually play around them like only being able to use magic while sucking your own cock.
>That's real challenge.
The actual use case is taking this for free points, then never using magic ever
Who the hell takes permanent drawbacks unless it's for stuff they never plan on interacting with?
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>>96646233
>Also there's nothing that I hate more than those retarded "no more sex for you lmao" drawbacks.
I have one like that in mine but it's more of a you can't have sex with no human woman unless she is your wife.
I think that this provides enough loopholes to fuck non-humans, have a harem and for the gays.
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>>96646313
Is it really my adventure if you're the one dictacting how it should go...?
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>>96646304
They're both. The most enjoyable way to play is when you can balance the two, and most cyoas can accommodate that well.
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>>96645991
So if she is Hancock 2.0... why do you go for the child version?
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You can't force me to give up sex in my imagination.
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>>96646320
Authors are the only ones dictating their own adventure you are limited by their design.

>>96646317
>Who the hell takes permanent drawbacks unless it's for stuff they never plan on interacting with?
To create a specialist build of course and because you have a plan to work around your limitations aka minmax or solve the puzzle.
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>>96646329
Would you still care about that?
I don't understand why sex is so important to some of you. Why is it on the same level as fighting the epitome of evil, founding a new school of magic, starving off entropy or ascending to greater planes of existence?
You can do that in real life. Even assuming you can't for some reason, I don't understand the wish-fufillment aspect of it. It's just so...mundane.
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>Open CYOA.
>Closes eyes.
>Imagine myself winning.
>"ungh I-I'm winniinnnnggg!!"
>Win.
>Smile in satisfaction and give myself a congratulatory autofellatio to celebrate winning.
>Close CYOA.
>Repeat.
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>>96646329
Anon sex outside of marriage is evil you will be a faitfull husband to your wives, you won't attack your opponents without vocing a challenge to them, you will be an honest politician, you won't steal from the poor as a trickster and you will offer hospitality to anyone that requests it.
And you will like the extra points.
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>>96646353
>You can do that in real life
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>>96646372
I'll do 4/5 of those
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>>96646372
That's just how I act normally.
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>>96646353
>ascending to greater planes of existence?
What's this new plane of existence like?
>founding a new school of magic
You can do this right now, just without the magic
>fighting the epitome of evil
You can fight evil right now, why aren't you?
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>>96646317
>Who the hell takes permanent drawbacks unless it's for stuff they never plan on interacting with?
If the benefit of the points is unconditionally higher than the drawback. It's why they're a balancing nightmare. They need to be bad for most builds, and acceptable for only a few. IDO comes very close to this, but Elitism spam was the result of many little problems.
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>>96646298
Wdym grind it’s a fucking image
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>>96646403
>t. unable to see the puzzle
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>>96646379
>>96646384
Those are the kinds of drawbakcs I'm writing for my "be the good guy" CYOA.
You make magical oaths to be a good guy and those are the drawbacks.
I'm not sure yet what the punishment for breaking them could be maybe that you become temporarily accursed as a bad guy depending on the severity of the offence like a sudden feeling of deep regret, or deep stress or anxiety, or suddenly the light of the sun is painful or outright burns you, others can feel the evil coming off you, etc.
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>>96646403
>t.Sub 90 IQ anon unable to understand methaphors.
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>I- I'm soooolvinnnggg.
Anyone who does this should be banned from playing cyoas.
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>>96646437
>I- I'm grindiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing XPPPPPPP.
>Anyone who does this should be banned from playing cyoas.
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Oh you like solving CYOAs? How about you solve your fucking life lmao.
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>>96646328
If I remember correctly the OG Boa was a sex slave and s-snake has a better color pallete.
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Why did OR discussion suddenly stop only to be replaced by One Piece of all things?
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>>96646564
reddicord giveth, reddicord taketh away
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>>96646517
OG Boa was not confirmed a sex slave, that she wasn't pregnant despite being a slave for years I think its proof it didn't happen. Unlike what happened with Bonney's mother. She was not a "wife" she was a slave they fed a devil fruit because it was funny.
She likely didn't reach her prime beauty until she was released (you can see how much every gorgon sister after being free)

And while I agree chocolote is a plus, s snake is a child. An adult sized kid.
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>>96646564
We're taking a break today.
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>>96646328
Because she's superior.
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>>96646576
Welcome to 4chan, anon.
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>>96646576
>OG Boa was not confirmed a sex slave, that she wasn't pregnant despite being a slave for years I think its proof it didn't happen.
I seriously doub that not getting pregnant doesn't mean she wasn't raped I imagine anti conceptives exists in the world.
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>>96646564
I'm tired of discussing OR and i'm half of the posters discussing it.
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>>96646604
Now search for a reason why the celestial dragons would use that given the way they are and how they simply don't care.
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>>96646608
Bugtranny...
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>>96646635
I am tok ffs. Me liking kiddy boa should have been enough hints.
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>>96646638
>Tok
He's nonexistent to me unless he's releasing OC.
Wasn't he against V2 anyway?
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>>96646608
Uruk Necromancer...
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>>96644754
If Tok was famous he would be a lolcow of the height of Chris chan
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>DISCIPLINE is key when it comes to pleasure.
The foreshadowing is insane, I hope Entropistanon returns in the next season of /cyoag/.
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>>96646710
Hopefully. I need to do my Conquest build, I think I will do Raging Horde plus one of the two defensive ones. But its hard to say without seeing them
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>>96646638
Tok doesn't actually like lolis, anon.
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>>96646853
you're right, he just likes horses, futas, and incest.
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>>96646853
He literally has lolis in his builds.
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>>96646881
No, he literally IS one in his builds.
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>>96646868
He's an Arknight fan?
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>>96646896
I remember how in Entropist he had Zoe from league of legends as Astra.
He wants to be a loli and fuck one
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>>96646564
It was petering out all last week. The update is a month old at this point; it's to be expected that the thread will reset to normal.
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Thank god we're back to author gossiping.
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Sylen save us
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>>96646954
I guess contrarion anon finally has permission to like it now
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>>96620114
>>96620114
>>96620114
>>96620114
It's time the hogs came home to wallow. I'm shocked the mods didn't delete the duplicate threads these last few weeks. Of course it's on Tok for making them unnecessarily - unless he beat others to the punch and they made their own as some kind of tantrum. As long as the information in the OP isn't fucked with, it shouldn't matter who makes the thread. surely we are all above such pouting
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>>96647079
No
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>>96647083
This one isn't even a Tok thread, it simply links to one for continuity
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I will never bear the indignity of posting in a tok theard, and I enjoy the so called "Thread split". the only person split off from the group is tok, pathetically bumping his empty thread
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We wine, we dine, and everything is fine

>>96647102
>>96647102
>>96647102
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>>96647098
Read the above post, retard. It's impolite to the rest of the board (and just pointless) to have two threads going all the time. If you don't want Tok to be the OP, make the threads yourself. This has only recently been an issue, I assume because the OR flood washed away the regular threadslaves. It's dumb to freak out when someone beats you to the punch, fair and square
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>>96647127
>the OR flood washed away the regular threadslaves
NTA but that wouldn't make sense. ORfags are content to stay in a thread until falling off the catalogue - no obstruction to threadslaves.
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>>96647143
I make threads fairly frequently when the general is not dominated by one CYOA. I know that is true of at least one other regular threadmaker, and there can't be that many of them. I'm not saying the new threads get lost or anything, only that the people who have historically done it may not be browsing /cyoag/ as often during these periods
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>>96647168
Fair enough.
It doesn't change the impossibility of making anons migrate to the "tok thread". Linking his thread was a death sentence.
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>>96647223
I know, but if it didn't get linked nobody would go to it anyway - I thought I might as well try, it's silly to make a new one when there's a perfectly good one already. Tok has not made himself evident in it, and the OP is definitely someone else, so what's the harm? I'm endlessly confused about whether anons here are too stupid to pick up on Tok's mannerisms or just use him as an excuse to harass others who clearly are not him
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>>96647254
It's tainted by association. The simple fact of including a backlink to his thread is seen as endorsing him.
I'm genuinely confused as to why you don't see the obvious emotional reasoning at play.
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>>96647283
Obviously I see that, which is why I anticipated that nobody would go there. that doesn't make their reasoning any less silly. Tok really doesn't fucking matter anyway; it is behavior like this that allows him to enjoy the minor fame he has. It's not like people would be applauding him suddenly if they did post in threads he happened to have made. classic "any publicity is good publicity"
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>>96644836
Thanks anon. I'll write one for you if you want.
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>>96647321
>it is behavior like this that allows him to enjoy the minor fame he has.
Not really. The behavior that enables him is actually interacting, for good or ill. Indifference is the best course of action, if only for the nerves of anons.
Why are you so dedicated on that anyway? It's not like the archives won't back up that thread. We had worse splits with the "super safe for work cyoag" and the Create/Choose problem. People are seemingly not interested in this, so why force the issue? It can't be fufilling to you.
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>>96647412
I haven't really weighed in on it at all until now. I just think it's in poor taste, erodes thread culture, feeds the trolls (both Tok and people who use him as a lever), and shits up the board. It doesn't take that much effort for me to comment on this situation, and I do find it fulfilling to try to engage with a general I care about. I've been on here over a decade at this point. I'm not really worried about enabling Tok; he is fine. I don't really understand the hate toward him, as far as I'm concerned people here should just treat him as either a lolcow, a nonentity, or someone to speak to in good faith. There's no point in making him into some untouchable boogeyman, which is what the thread splits (among other approaches by anons here) achieve. I'm advocating for a common sense approach where we simply use the thread that is up first
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>>96647453
Nah, just ignore him.
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>Insists on making unwanted threads
>Complains about others making threads
I will not post in the tok thread, if you want the fight to blow over then give up and ignore him with me
>>96647127
Also, rude



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