Birthday EditionPrevious: >>96654579>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Have you ever received Magic related gifts for your birthday?
I got invited to play some digital magic with a friend of a friend. It's a sim so I'm not restricted to my 3 IRL decks. What commander(s) should I brew that would show I'm a cool guy and not a sloppy anus sucker? I've always kind of wanted to build Titania or Feldon or some U Devotion that can Master of Waves+Mystic Reflection, but the card pool of commanders now is so vast I don't even know how to narrow it down. Pic semi related.I already know to avoid the trap of jamming in a ton of fast mana and rocks that would make me look like a giga tryhard.
>TQI got my 3rd commander from a gift
I finished the Hatred Hu Tao commander after getting some more opinions on it!Also improved the visuals of the card a bit, i think it's ready for print now?
>>96660886Running this with Pact Weapon btw
>>96660899That seems like a fun idea, i should buy a copy.
Took everyone out in my pod on turn 6.>turn 1, Sol ring>turn 2 Azusa, Sylvan Library>turn 3 Green Suns Zenith a Oracle of Mul Daya>turn 4 Garruk Primal Hunter, Summoner's pact a Terastodon to get rid of a pesky Rest in Piece and two Swords>turn 5 Eldrazi Monmument, Lotus Cobra and Return to Wildspeaker thanks to Rude Awakening>turn 6 Green Sun Zenith again for Craterhoof and then cast Overwhelming Stampede and kill everyone doing 219 damage over the top, trample indestructibleOne player could have Farewell me the previous turn, but didn't since they knew I was going to kill the aggro player with the swords first since they weren't a threat. He said he didn't expect me to be able to pull of an attack like that. I love mono green, bros.
Thots?
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>>96660819Sorry I'm not really sure about your question, but what sim are you using? I'd like to get a friend into mtg some time so i need one that's easy to use.
>>96660819I use tts personally, is that what you're using?What bracket do your friends seem to want to run/like?
>>96660909>t4 Summoner's Pact>t5 15 mana worth of spells
it worked in my head chud that's what really counts
>>96660807>tqYes. Hopefully more. Also my birthday is on the 3rd. The 4chan birthday thing is funny every year.
>>96660745bloodline necromancer
>>96660948Didn't this have a party hat in the art?Have I been Mandella effected for like 26 years?
spiderslop spiderslop stinky wizardsanother flopthe worst setof all timereddit trashcorporate slimelook outhere comes some spiderslop
I wish I had a cute pikachu friend that celebrated my birthday with me...
>>96660958>Worst setLiterally not even the worst this year.Aetherdrift is sitting on fucking shelves. You can buy a box for like 80 dollars.
>>96660953I have an og printing. You have been mandelood
>>96660968My world is a lie
What do you think of foreign cards? People laugh and call me various forms of pretentious when I rock up to my LGS for some games and my cards are Nip/Russkie foils. Back when I first started playing EDH, half the fun was blinging out your decks. Have those times passed me by, or am I a hipster douchebag?
>>9666093617 actually. Azusa+Oracle+Lotus Cobra gives a hell of a lot of mana.
Business idea: Legend of Zelda UB.
>>96660936it's conceivable if he's full-sending Sylvan Library every turn to scrape together three lands every time for T3+T4+T5but that would be psychotic
>>96660984Who cares, most people are retards who couldn't be bothered to read cards on the table even if they were in English anyway.
>>96660963Spider-Man is also sitting on shelves and it has the power of BRAND behind it
>>96660984I run an Italian card that isn't all that good specifically because the name is hilarious
>>96660995No, it isn;t. It's sold out at my place and the boxes on TCG Player cost twice as much as aether.
>>96660963>>96660995Aethershit was more fuel for the UB fire. WotC had an """original""" idea (tropes copied from many other multi-media IPs) that was abjectly terrible, hence why they just will continue to roll over and use other IPs that have more chance of being successful instead of going through marginally more effort to not-so-subtly disguise their imaginative work as their own.
>>96660984My Sylvan Caryatids are all in chinese because those are the ones I traded for like 12 years ago. Maybe Yugioh is more their speed if they don't want to see foreign cards.
>>96660998lol
>>96661010Go on and post your screencaps sport
>>96661010DFT was just an attempt to speedrun (ho ho) through several "Return to" sets for less popular planes and hope the combined mild nostalgia would draw some people in.
>>96660998I have French Llannys and I rather enjoy casting it and saying Elfes de Llanowar.
>>96660998Whats fauci coming from here? Demonlord of Ashmouth is the card in case that wasnt obvious. Actually what's any of it coming from?
I want a spanish Mister Negative
>>96661026Signore dei Demoni is just demon lordFauci di Cenere is Jaws of Ash
>regular version is $20Guess I'm grabbing the tummykino version
>>96661043you realize this version will be more expensive, right?
>>96660807>TQ: Have you ever received Magic related gifts for your birthday?I introduced people to the game. They bought me a bunch of boosters. It was the wrong language from some tacky hat set. I had to open the boosters while they were watching and had to pretend to be excited.
>>96661047I mean I'm paypigging and buying the lair when it drops
>>96661050>I don't want to spend $20 on a card>so I'll spend $60 on five cards I don't want for a card I wantsmart
>>96661053The unique card in that lair will be higher than the lair itself cost in like 4 months.
>>96661053Whip is a good card and it's unlikely Nathan Drake will get a UW reprint, so yes, it is smart to buy a nice version of a card I need for less than it will cost after the lair sells out.
the normal version costs 0.05 cents at kinkos
Was this the lowest point in MTG's history?
>>96661130Maybe if you're right wing I guess
>>96661132Extremely.
>>96661136uh based?
>>96661130No because every year since is also worse.
>>96661130I'd say it's the Sonic the Hedgehog secret lair?
>>96661130No because things have continued to get worse
>>96661130yes, except since then they have dropped faggy art like that here and there in a pretty predictable manner and style (like that fat faggot Kinnan)
>>96661130Call me naive, but imho at least this was fueled by some misguided desire for social justice. UBslop is pure corporate greed.
>>96661130Homelands.
>>96661157I never actually realised Kinnan was a dude until I played Brawl on Arena and has a little character model animation on EtB. All these years I thought it was a butch lesbian chick.
>>96661136woah so based!!!
>>96661170pure corporate greed in itself is better than social justice nonsensecorporate greed as it exists (not pure nor exclusively profit maximizing) props up leftist ideologues of that kind through ESG, BRIDGE and selective deplatforming/debanking
Trying to come up with a card for Zhongli but this feels somewhat underwhelming so far.Anyone got ideas for this please?
>>96661212Well not red for starters
>>96661212A red creature that prevents damage? This is honestly bad design.
>>96660984>What do you think of foreign cards?I really like Spanish cards.Spainfags I know some of you siesta niggers post here. Im going to Madrid and Barcelona, what LGS should I go to to buy cards
>>96661227But red is also earth/mountains, not just fire and aggression.>>96661230UB cards usually aren't as restricted to the color pie, i was prioritizing flavor for now.I was thinking about making him RW instead but since he's the earth god essentially, i thought it would be better to keep him "pure"?
>>96661212Pie break, white is the color of damage prevention and toughness matters.
>>96661242Red is mountains, but not earth in MTG. Green is earth in MTG.
>>96660920>thoughts?I wish there was a fun doublestrike matters commander than wasn't 3 color slop and locked into arena.
>>96661246I'm not sure if that's true
>>96661212>>96661242Red usually makes damage unpreventable, at least make him Boros I say
>>96661259Yeahh maybe i should, i guess since white is also kinda the "divine" color that would still fit.
>>96661258Red is about smashing the earth not building a damn wall with it
>>96661272However
>>96661170>plays a corporate game that has encouraged a literal pay to win secondary market since it's inception >suddenly now hates corporate practices because the art on his cards make him angwee wangweeI'm glad UB is causing so much mental distress among you neckbeard manchild retards. S
>>96661253It's a real card I just wanted to post the meme version
Speaking of preventing damage, did anybody ever make a deck work with that theme?
I kinda like this idea i saw too, he probably should have some way of creating the pillars.>>96661272I think it's kinda both and not always consistent.They only made earth stuff fully green with the avatar set because that's the color it's associated with in the show i think.
>epic cards were supposed to big splashy high cast cards, that wouldn't be format staples in standard>this guy comes out and is pretty much a must have in any green ramp in standard, and now EDHI'm still salty about mythics, bros. This guy should be like 4 bucks max.
>>96661277This shit hasn't been printed in over twenty years, meanwhile the most recent wall red's gotten is made of lightning and is directly part of a kill strategy>>96661287No, they made earth stuff green in 2005 when Ravnica came out and every single green guild was jerkin it in the damn soil!
>>96661284damn they never make beautiful cards like this anymore
>>96661290Lotus cobra is like $7, which is not that far off
People who put UB cards in the OP should get range banned
>>96661296It's true that rock and stone has mostly become a colorless concept while earth and soil has become green, but red is still allowed earthen notions when it comes to the earth being destructive (earthquakes, landslides, rockfalls, etc.)
>>96661306yeah motherfucker that's what I said! >>96661272
>>96661298Yeah. Another reason why that block is my favorite.>>96661300It was $20+ in standard, which is just ridiculous for a ramp card that you need four of. It's like making Birds of Paradise mythic. It just artificially raises the prices of staple cards.
>>96661303Range banned from reddit, yes
>>96661311Why the fuck would I care who is banned on reddit? I don’t go thereBut banning anyone with reddit cookies would be a good idea. I’d say I would miss you, but I shouldn’t lie
>>96661271I don't like custom cards spilling into other threads, but since this is at least tangentially EDH related, I'll be polite, but I won't like it.You need some remedial color pie; colors are mechanical in Mtg. They're not elements, they're not tribal, they describe the mechanical behavior of a card and cost its effects based on how those mechanical behaviors affect the game.White is not "divine"; we have gods in every color. John Lee should be White because he is associated with law and order, has a protection effect, and you're giving him a toughness matters effect.Personally if I was going to slap John Lee on a card, I'd play with the money and currency theme of Morax.Probably something like "{T}: Target creature you control gains indestructible until end of turn. An opponent may end this effect, if they do create a Treasure Token."If I wanted to crack him and make him more expensive, I'd turn around and also give him "Non-creature Artifact Tokens have "{T}: Target creature other than ~ gains indestructible until end of turn. An opponent may end this effect, if they do create a Treasure Token."
>>96661319Allow me to clarify "Tapped Treasure Token" since it's the most obvious fuckup.
I saw scrimblo brimblo on an mtg card of all places and my booty hole has yet to recover
>>96661290It pays to order random staple cards when they are cheap.
>>96661326>PALESTINIANS MUST ACCEPT THE TWO SCRIMBLO SOLUTION
Call me when someone makes a cute and funny proxy of Oloro
Does anyone have the fucking tweet of the one Commander Legends designer basically admitting he made Archelos Sultai because he already had a Bant commander deck or something retarded?
>>96661342He said it would be interesting to do that in different colors and work with different cards
>>96661350Brother there isnt a single black think about that card eat my entire ass.
>>96661357playing with tapping can be blue, even if secondary, the other colors were to open doors for cards that bring things in tapped to not do that
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96661372Are you a bot?
>>96661326The power of Scrimblo Brimblo knows no bounds
>>96660991I was at 16 health, so yeah pretty much. Not needed every time when it’s there lands on top and you can just out them all into play with Oracle and Azusa.
>>96661364https://xcancel.com/JulesRobins/status/1322253764112216064>The text feels fairly white, but commanders restrict the colors of cards you can play with them, and we thought it was cool and fun to use this effect with black cards that create tapped Zombies and reanimate creatures tapped>>96661364>there is nothing black about this>brings up blueShut up.
>>96661364Making all permanent types enter tapped is overwhelmingly a white thing, with blue secondary, and green tertiary (specifically for artifacts)Stop making shitty excuses for faggot designers who dont give a fuck about the color pie.At least Thalia and Gitrog have a sacrifice ability for the black pip.
>>96661386This reasoning is so transparently retarded.There's only a handful of cards that make those, so basically this fucking mongoloid made a card Sultai because he was sick of his Army of the Damned being a fucking bulk rare.Buy a fucking Amulet of Vigor you faggot
>>96661342
>>96661043>passionate archaeologist>hot woman with a rocket launcherWhat?
>>96661342Everyone else can say he shouldn't be Black because tapping things isn't in the color, I say they should start making black cards that tap things to retroactively make it in pie.
>>96661428I think you should be shot in the leg.
>>96661426She's a treasure hunter, thats part of the Uncharted SLD.
>>96661428Black doesnt need to tap things. Black gets to get rid of things, so why would it ever give a fuck about tapping?
>>96661378Probably not. Like that flying squirrel guy he just wants to meme their opinions into existence and acceptance.
>>96661438Because Black makes people suffer, and nothing does that better than stax.Also, I'm of the opinion that every mechanic should have a color it's primary, secondary, and tertiary in. White and Blue have the first two well established, but there's still an opening for a third color to claim.
>>96661342If he was currently eviscerating Legacy or Vintage I'd probably cry about it, but stretching the color pie to let Timmy bring in untapped zombie tokens is so many orders of magnitude from design fuckups that actually matter I'm willing to let it slide on principle.
>>96661428What's with these people that want every color to do everything?>hurr hurr black should be able to destroy artifacts>herp derp white should draw cards>why can't red prevent damage?!It's like they don't understand the first thing about this game.
>>96661454Every color should do everything but all but one color should do that thing bad.Yes, give black a fucking artifact destruction that requires them to sac all their lands. I don't care.
>>96661454And then there's blue which actually does do everything and more
>>96661454Sometimes it's just a consequence of EDH as a kitchen-sink format. Things that go into other enviroments trickle into here and that can mean a number of things that are important or good for other formats show up here as terribly odd ducks.Consider black artifact destruction: It sounds unacceptable in constructed formats, but what about limited? The reason we've gotten the enchantment hate black has gotten lately is because without it black would have been getting paddled in draft unless you were always specifically taking archetypes that gave you a color to deal with it. White draw is similar: every other color gets some excuse to draw cards, leaving white out just makes them painfully slow in limited. We have to accept that colors need to be able to do things that stretch the color pie in formats where you can't stretch deckbuilding, and so we let them do the thing but give them a shitty rate on it and so on.I'll give you red damage prevention. That's just stupid.
>>96661454Yes, every color should be able to do everything, with the frequency and cost of doing that thing being determined by how good they are at doing it.
>>96661454This is a consequence of edh becoming the "main" game. There's roughly 7 years of newfags who don't understand the core mechanics and don't care to.
Babe what's wrong you barely touched your top tier commander
>>96661490Just get the FF one
Got one of you in Elkcord to reveal your powerlevel today.If you didn't want to play with a "retarded tranny" maybe you shouldn't be playing in the bracket that allows "retarded cards".
>>96661494Elkcord? Is this xivg?
>>96661494nice blog faggotliterally no one asked
>>96661494dont you have a dying MMO to go suck off
>>96661386So... literally what I said. it was to open doors to play with tapped zombie tokens and other such effects.
>>96661506Then why not make it esper or abzan you dumb cunt?
>>96661494The best way to ensure your youtuber brand goes on is to let retards in screaming about trannies and nigs.Elk is a moron.
>>96661282Still not a good Doublestrike Commander.
>>96661507Because Sultai is cool?
>>96661494You seem lost, this isn't Discord. We talk about card games in here.
>>96661512>black is allowed to have blatant color breaks because I want it to and think it's cool.You should see if wizards of the coast is hiring game designers!
>>96661490This card is the ultimate litmus test to check what kind of player you are dealing with.-The art is ugly-The character design is bland and soulless-The abilities are strong and boring-The card itself is expensive, so nobody owns this by mistakeThere is no way that someone plays this card and is not the worst kind of person.
>>96661520There's no injustice quite like looping Clthonian Nightmare 4 times off the mana from a Cabal Stronghold, then after it's done, you say "I have 1 floating"
>>96661524Honestly there should be no ability completely locked out of any color, but cards that are off-color for that ability should do it worse or more expensively than others. White should be the best at tapping shit down, but every color should have the ability.
Color breaks are fine if they're old. Then they are SOVL
>>96661540>Honestly there should be no ability completely locked out of any colorYes they should.
>>96661342Designers do this all the time with their pet decks. Why do you think there's so much artifact slop in the game? Why do you think 3 color decks are the only ones that get fun/interesting commanders? Why do you think insects keep getting spammed? Why do you think vehicles keep getting spammed? What's going to kill Magic won't be UB or corporate greed, it will be the lack of leadership on the design team ensuring that design gaps fans are yearning for aren't being ignored for the 10th set in a row so dev faggot #348 can make another Izzet artifact Commander or exile matters or vehicle fag deck. My biggest hope is when AI replaces them that we'll start actually getting a variety of cards that support actually different deck types and tribes. My biggest fear is that it's going to be trained solely on previous MtG design and we'll keep getting the same tired and boring shit over and over and over again (which of course would have the happy side benefit of killing the game).
>>96661546Incorrect and outdated. Color-pie breaks are FINE as long as they are overcosted or forced to be more on theme. For example, Withering Boon is an awesome use of a color pie break and fits well within black despite it countering a spell. If anything, color-hosing should come back as well.
>>96661544Surprised this card is pretty cheap, i guess a creature-only counter really isn't very in demand
>>96661540That's ostensibly the design space colorless spells fill (e.g. Scour from Existence, Introduction to Annihilation) However these effects are so absurdly overcosted it's better to accept losing to the wrong type of card rather than trying to answer it and drawing a brick that eats your whole turn.
>counterspell in redSOVL
>>96661552Incorrect and faggy.
>>96661544why her dick look like that tho
>>966615568 ain't very cheap.It was like 2 dollars a couple of years ago.
>>96661566Its like 3-4 in europe
>>96661316For someone who doesnt go on reddit
>>96661303
>>96661428The replies to this show just how dumb the people in this thread are.
>>96661622>just let me design specific cards for my petdeck bro, game balance and color identity don't matter!
>>96661659see >>96661552
>>96661665See >>96661562
>>96661659Thanks for driving it home anon.
>No! Your deck needs to be completely unable to do specific things while my 5c slop pile should be allowed to effortlessly be colorfixed at all times to always have the best options available!
>>96661683>Your deck needs to be completely unable to do specific thingsCorrect. That is the intended trade off. You do some things very well, other things poorly if at all.
>>96661686poorly is better than not at all, no one is arguing for it to be just as easy
>>96661687>no one is arguing for it to be just as easyIt doesn't get easier than having it in your command zone.
I think more cards should be printed as uncounterable.Like they should just put it on every good new card for a few years just to disincentivize running a dozen counterspells.
Daily reminder Star Trek has been in Magic since the beginning.
>>96661690No one said that was a good or well designed card, but that kvetching over the color pie is retarded when other colors should be able to do things.
>>96661705>daily reminder that a test card existed!!!ok? Either you're trying to trigger the anti-UB crowd in the way most retarded, or you're trying to justify Star Trek as if this is some kind of precedent?
>>96661686Please inform me what the drawback of a 5c deck is when you are able to consistently be colorfixed at all times thanks to fetches.
>>96661729Dude there's only 10 fetches, you'd have to be grabbing the awful triomes to color-fix that consistently. Just run good rocks and powerful duals.
>>96661722Sometimes it's just a joke anon.
>>96661195>the principles of social justice should only be upheld by leftists
>>96661238Not Spanish, but Barcelona was both one of the most beautiful cities and one of the most scummy cities I've been to. And not scummy in a sovlful way, eg somewhere like Napoli, just bleak depressing urban shithole scummy.
>>966617295c used to be for sliver and dragon tribal near exclusively and used to be super clunky as well. 5c do everything engines are also a newer invention and part of the problem. Alternatively, look at constructed. You don't see 5c decks ruling every format even when they're not locked to color identity, because prioritizing actual win-cons and focusing on your strength means you don't need to try and shore up every weakness you might have.
>>96661744>I am completely ignorant of the verbal confusion and linguistic camouflage the left uses to advance their goalshttps://newdiscourses.com/tftw-social-justice/
>>96661751Literally every deck that wants to play past turn 3 is a domain pile.
>>96661756Ah yes, Tron, the famous 5c domain pile.
>>96661756Sir you're in the EDH thread. Pretty sure K'rrick is not a domain pile.
>>96661551and yet there is still not one (1) WBG vehicles commander
https://moxfield.com/decks/8sTV0schnE-6Ls1RT22WmAWhich spooders are worth running
>>96661892Depends on your bracket and your price point. I'd run Gwenom at very least, but there's only 93 non-changeling spiders in golgari and most of them are pretty underwhelming. Spider-Ham can help you lean into food synergies which you could throw in Peregrine Took for. Might also consider Fynn, the Fangbearer to close out games or force blocks when you have a decent board of spider tokens with things like wall crawl or arachnogenesis.
honestly, if you don't run 60 lands in your deck, why even play? you will just mulligan yourself down to a lose-by-default state.
>>96662148I run 100 lands
>>96661760Tron wins on turn 3.
Postman came and brought me this beaut.I like when my older cards have wear and tear and come in decent dicount because of it.
Sol Ring was fine when it was used to cast garbage but now the average commander card is so good that it has become an obnoxious piece of shit.
I've been considering getting into custom commander, what do you guys think about this bad boy?
>>96662168based ever-sleeping kraken enjoyer
>>96662368
Just want to be sure of something, when you have a card like Surly Badgersaur on board which triggers off discard, if you discard multiple cards at once they each trigger the effect separately and you choose the order, right?
>TQgot two commander decks in two separate occasions and only got to play one of them>shorikai preconrepurposed into Sydri, galvanic genius>sultai gonti decknever played although I took some of the cards out for other decks
>>96662399for this card, yesif it was "when you discard one or more", then you would only get one treasure
>>96661253there's this guy that also cares about other keywords
>>96661253consider
>>96662499That's what I figured but I wanted to be sure. Thanks anon. Trying to build a mono red discard deck and I wanted to be sure how most of these worked beforehand.
I am a pig and I eat slop.
>le slop maymayebin
>Opponent tries to abrade my Reaver Titan
>>96662358I'm biting guysthere has always been a critical mass of broken shit AND that was when mamacrypt was legal. sol ring should have always been banned
>>96661212This is a mono white card and a bad one too
>>96662662
They should bring back tribal non-creature spells... no reason in particular i'm saying this.
>>96661170Magic has been running on pure corpo greed for like 16~ years now.
>>96662721they are
>>96662753Lol I forgot that they renamed tribal this company is so unfathomably gay
>>96662753>kindrednever mind. I don't want them back
https://moxfield.com/decks/zV8C5_DBXUGO3Q1-3A7BxAPlease give my Alania deck some feedback. I took most of the Copy spells that I have in my normal Veyran deck because Alania makes them kind of redundant. I replaced them with spells that actually do something like banefire, but I'm not sure if cheap cantrips for otter creature triggers or BIG spells for alania copying is the way to go.>>96662757>>96662753>tribal is politcally incorrecthow? Is it offensive to native americans or something? Is it divisive? I've never seen a corpo behave so cowardly.
>>96662819You have to consider that this company is extremely infested with mentally ill women, trannies and other freaks.All it takes is one lunatic in a meeting suggesting that "tribal" has a weird racial feel to it and now it has to be removed, because nobody wants to risk being the guy at the office that draws the ire of these types and/or potentially defends something problematic.It's an infinite spiral of deranged ideological purification and their world view doesn't really have a mechanism for stopping it.
>>96661281Yeah but also fuck nuggets and queers
>They're bringing back companion for the pokemon setOh no
>>96662513>really interested in him at first>print some anon's deck bracket 2 deck and give it a shot>even some interesting mono white tech in it>had no fun playing it at all outside from little 1v1 skirmishesall my advances into mono w territory are cursed. going from mono w gandalf to uw urza and finally to inspirit was a journy from unplayable jank to "oh shit my deck actually does something" to "oh shit I'm having fun"
>>96662662>pigthere's so many fatties who hates that analogy, didn't get how good of an insult it was to call mtg-players "pigs"interesting enough, wotc seem to be aware of the word "pig" and rarely uses it over more neutral? "boar", best exemplified by the wolf's quarry
>>96662662What upsets UB piggies more, "slop" or "autism-smush"?
>>96662985boar is just more "fantasy"
>>96662757Think of the huge native american mtg playing demographic!
>>96663053All people in the entire world are descended from tribes though
>have cool textured foil underworld breach>it is kind of bustedShouldd I remove it?
>spent $200 on cards I'll probably never use and will just sit in a pile on my bookshelf again award
>>96663070
>>96663069Make big splashy plays with it, not degenerate combos
How the fuck does the bracket system even make sense?>deck has like 8 tutors and highly optimized cards>only bracket 3 because they're not THE tutors like vapiric/demonic/enlightened/worldly
>>96663118just vibe it out, man
>>96663118Take a look at my Bracket 1 Lesbos deck:https://manabox.app/decks/adEGR349S9Gj7uqlNImKWw
>17 out of 18 of my instants n sorceries are removal. The other one is Ephemerate.
Why is Tinker still banned?
>>96661509Searching tranny and retard in the server showed me how based the trannies in there are wow>>96661507>>96661524I agree that the turtle guy probably should've been abzan, especially because abzan has like the absolutely most boring and redundant commander choices for the most part, but idk why people get so ass mad about this. I'd rather see experimentation that stagnation in regards to color flavor and abilities.>>96661428Blue has lots of tapping in its identity, black loves to fuck with people idk why those colors are the problem everyone has. To me he has absolutely nothing green about him, but abzan would've at least been a more on theme choice if they had to keep green. Esper probably would've also worked and also been a cool design space for that tri
>>96663168>why is a card that lets you turn a Treasure token into Bolas's Citadel or The One Ring still bannedgee anon I dunno
>>96663114Lmao way more accurate>>96663081Hi swordfag
>>96663114>final fantasy>more related to magic than edge, duskmourn or aetherdriftEnjoy your not-ub bullshit
>>96663189Swordfag is busy shitting up /eftg/
>>96663218hit dogs holler
>>96663218>EoE could have done something cool like magic in space, or showing us some ancient world that got fucked by the Slivers/Eldrazi>instead it's generic sci fiI will say the Kavu seem like cool dudes at least. Tannuk sounds like a total bro.
>>96663168Tink?
>>96661707Why? There are plenty of things I cant do.
>>96663231Sliver planet card could have been interestingmaybe something like giving all your other lands a station ability that of a kind of "Station 5: whenever you tap this land for mana create a 1/1 sliver token" basically have slivers infest your lands
>>96662970>dont make deck>dont have fun playing itShocking. Maybe dont print off either people's decks you dipshit lmao
>>96662985So true anon wotc uses boar cause they knew in 2025 their customers would be called pay pigs. Youre so smart
>>96663255At least thrumming hivepool is a super nice card for Slivers. It essentially negates the need for Queen (who is hideously overpriced), and it's essentially a no cost artifact. Meanwhile the dabbing Eldrazi is pretty mediocre.
>>96663282oh sure, it's a neat tool, and the station thing is probably the one win more to rule them alljust off the top of my head, could have been fun to have slivers literally infest all other lands you control thematically
>>96663168>>96663233
>7 mana card that basically says "win the game">nobody uses it for some reason
what's the /edhg/-approved sliver commander? Like, just throw in a bunch of slivers and turn them sideways and not abuse some weird tribal loophole?
>>96663315Because it does not, in fact, win the game.Also no generic mana in a spell that requires you to be in at least 3 colors is stupidLiterally just run Austere Command or Farewell. Are you stupid?
>>96663315>wrath of god exists>planar cleansing exists>supreme verdict exists>it's 3 fucking colors>untimely malfunction>teferi's auto-include in every white deck>Heroic auto-include in every green deck
>>96663320>edhg approvedReddit is down the hall my friend. They will be happy to think for you over there ^.^
>>96663315seven colored pips is a lot, especially for a three color (minimum) deckmeanwhile blue gets to do it for a single colored pip at instant speed because fuck you
>>96663320>playing slivers>approved
>>96663315here's an ultimatum that actually says "win the game"
>>96663338
>>96663338>cyclonic rift>needing to pay for the overloadYou are like a little baby. Watch this.
>>96663332>>96663326Those aren't asymmetrical, with this everyone's boards get wiped while you still have yours.You should absolutely be able to win off that this late into the game.
>>96663320You have two options:>Overlord and use him to tutor in all your solutions (e.g. crystalline)>First and use him to CASCAAAAADE nonstop to instantly rebuild your boardBoth work great, and anyone who bitches like >>96663337 and >>96663341are just butthurt.
>>96663349titanic ultimatum also!
>>96663263if you have read my post, you would have understood that it wasn't my first bad experience with mono w. it just doesn't work out for me.
>>96663338>>96663357Yes blue is the ultra-pushed mary sue color that does everything, but it's nice to have something similar in less transsexual colors.
>>96663315Idk all my friends run it in their mardu decks. Ruinous is def the best ultimatum in terms of value for 7 mana but I think people just get turned off by the crazy color reqs. I always try to put the good ones in my 3 color decks just for fun>>96663332Ruinous is one-sides tbf also untimely malfunction does not stop this because it doesn't target and I'm not sure if bait or mental retardation
>>96663188So ban Natural Order, Tooth and Nail, Beseech the Mirror, Chord of Calling as well?
>>96663379To be fair, Ugin is colorless in disguise. He is YET AGAIN acting as a cheerleader for the Eldrazi.
how fast do you think will WotC add new construct or gnome soldier cards to the game? I love these guys
>>96663366What am I butthurt about? I like slivers. Its pathetic to ask for the>edhg approvedAnything. What an embarrassing question to ask. Whoever asked it should be ashamed and whoever defends the question should be ashamed as well. Grown ass men asking other men what will make him fit in more. Its pathetic.
>>96663357>instead of paying seven mana, I'm going to pay seven mana!
>>96663393sure, why not
>>96663424>cyclonic requires you to pay for the overload, and that's all you get>Ugin's binding gives you a spot bounce AND gives you a free "everyone bounce" when you play Ulamog The Rapist
>>96663378I did read your post thats how I know you didnt make the deck, and thats why I'm not surprised you didn't like it. Make your own deck you fag nigger
Is there any way to make this rug not a nightmare to play against? Its either panharmonicon gigaburn or its oops all eldrazi.
>>96663437retard
>>96663422Trve begging for approval from retards and days in 4chin is pathetic>>96663433>"that's all you get"Bait or mental retardation? Ugin's binding isn't bad but you need a 7 mana colorless spell to play at instant speed to make it equivalent to the value a rift gives you, which is rare. You either have to run something that won't be that good or extra pieces like High Fae Trickster or Leyline of Anticipation>>96663437True if anon made the keyword soup himself his magical connection to the deck building process would've made the deck more fun automatically
>some random 4c schmuck from 20 years ago represents the color combination better than all 4 commanders printed since then specifically for commanderHow did we get here?
>>96663535By not doing either of those?
>>96663555You run Ugin's binding in an Ulalek deck and nothing else. Like you said, outside of that one specific deck it's really awkward. With Ulalek though, that's a free double spaghetti monster with a side of board wipe.
Cards you're hoping will get a reprint in Lorwyn?
>>96663555>magical connection to the deckfuck this shit card games made me actually superstitious>draw perfect curve hand but only 1 land>tell friend about hand>"you gotta believe in the heart of the cards bro">decide to not keep the hand, but reveal the top 2 cards to prove friend wrong>2 lands>nearly the same thing happens for the next 2 mulligansand whenever I keep a 5-6 land hand, I'm completely fucked all game long
STACK QUESTIONHad a heated argument last night. I want to explain what I'm doing, and if I'm doing it right so I don't look like a huge asshole.I have: Hive mind, Mirari, Lier on the battlefieldWhat I'm doing: I cast borne upon a wind, and then turnabout>Mirari on the stack, resolves first, untap my lands>Hivemind spells on the stack>I cast narset, targeting my borne upon a wind with mirari copy (hivemind, everyone gets narset) >I cast display of power (can't be copied), I bounce all narsets I don't own, and copy whatever I wantwith sorcess schemes, I can cast display of power as long as I have mana. Narset's reversal doesn't counter, and effectively 'converts' the hivemind copies into MY copies. It''s a exponential copy loop with display of power.
>>96663664I put lier instead of past in flames to make it less complicated(flashback on resolve), but I run both
>>96663664I am REASONABLY sure the spells that gain flashback from Past In Flames (or from Lier) don't keep it once they go to exile, so you can't keep recasting Display of Power (which I think is the line you're going for?)
>>96663624
>>96663744is it exiled card with flashback? or card with flashback, eitherway, I can still target it with sorceress's schemes in the graveyard then
>>96663757Interesting. They printed so many more unusual effects back then. Wouldn't be surprised if AI generates most card text now
What are some one drops? I've got>Ragavan>Deathrite>Spore Frog>Insidious Fungus
>>96663800People actually cast the front side of these things?
>>96663814Based duelist kingdom chad
>>96663814It's a Shirei secret commander deck
>>96663773then Past/Lier seems like an unnecessary additional step
>>96663836in what I had in my hand, yeah.But the general taking over hivemind loop with narset/display of power loop works?
>>96663800You don't need many, it's 1 ETB in the worst possibly colors for blink>inb4 "im gonna reanimate him!!!!"
>>96663854Ummmm....
>>96660909This is made way less impressive by the usage of tutors and craterhoof.
>>96661282This isn't a real card though, it's UB slop.
>>96661282Won me games at pre-release. She seems pretty shit as a commander.
>>96663876Unfortunately there's no other way to win in mono G...
>>96663917there's also a billion squirrel tokens
>>96663917If you're a coward, sure.
>>96663916she's just another lame Voltron commander, now featuring blue
> your universes within set, Sir
>>96663757That art is just beautiful
>>96663624Scapeshift with the original art
>>96663366>anyone who bitches like >>96663337 # and >>96663341 #are just butthurtNot either anon, but faggot's asking for "approval" on a pushed solved tribal commander archetype, and you're simping because people are unimpressed.
>>96663934weirdo fantasy is exactly what I want out of MTG, thank you
>>96663934inb4 Dark Crystal tie-in
>>96660909>no card draw played>gets GSZ againCheating is fun I suppose
>>96663555Good thing this exists which means you get to do an overloaded cyclonic rift for 0.
>>96660909That board looks comfy. Something I'd see in like 2012
>>96663535I really like Roxanne so I ended up making two decks for her, and I avoided doing both of those I think.This one is more optimized imo and focuses on trying to get shitloads of mana rocks to cast big stupid spells.https://archidekt.com/decks/15997172/im_calling_the_police_because_you_keep_throwing_rox_at_meThis one is much dumber and is literally rock tribal, almost all the cards are related to rocks. It's still pretty effective.https://archidekt.com/decks/15929125/rox_collection
>>96663952anon, your Sylvan Library?
>>96663927I always thought this card was really cool. There was a challenge match in DotP 2013 where the opponent would spam wall of vines and try to win with helix pinnacle. I thought about putting it in my mono green deck just for fun or to psyche out my opponents.unfortunately "made for commander" cards like farewell are huge silver bullets designed to be anti fun
>>96663970Farewell is exactly why I include Warping Wail in my mono green/black/golgari decks, Anon. No better feeling than cucking someone trying to board wipe with this. Exiling a mana dork/key combo piece is also funny.
I played the monogreen deck win but better:>T1 Arboreal Grazer (+1 forest, drew a forest)>T2 Asuza (my commander, +4 forests, drew a forest)>T3 Horn of Greed, Doubling Cube (+7 forests, drew 2 forests as well as Omnath>T4 Omnath, Case of the Locked Hothouse (Didn't make land drop this turn :()>T5 Genesis Wave X = 16 (+4 forests all ripped off the top, +6 forests from Genesis Wave, Eternal Witness hit, targets Genesis Wave in yard>T6 Greater Good, Sac a 9/9 Omnath to draw 9 discard 3, plop down Big Glizzy G to vomit my hand out, Finale of Devastation X = 10 to give everything +10/+10 and haste
>>96663968If your GSZ is magically 6 from the top you probably cheated.
>>96663433>gives you a free "everyone bounce" when you play Ulamog The Rapist>>96663954>Dependent on having a colorless Eldrazi already on the fieldDo people not play Scavenger Grounds in your pods? You guys are talking about multi-card setups that cost a shitload of mana. At that point you should be making plays that say "if you don't deal with me now, I will win the game."
I love this little guy like you you wouldn't believe
>>96664000I've top decked Green Sun's the turn after. It happens.
>>96664000looks like he was letting Top rip too, can fish through your deck pretty quickly if you have the mana (as he apparently did)
>>96664003Anon, Not of This World only cares that you have a creature with power 7 or more.
>>96664006You cheated anon.>>96664010How is he playing top off the top to do this?This thread is full of cheaters.
>>96664019>I can set up a multicard combo to pull off a Cyclonic Rift for free!>meanwhile the blue player just cast Cyclonic Rift two turns ago and already killed me
>>96664003My entire deck is giant spaghetti monsters, and my man Zhulodok is wearing his Sunday best of commanders plate and lightning Greaves. You WILL eat the Annihilator and you will like it.
>>96664022why would he need to play Top off top to use the scry ability to filter through his deck?
>>96664031If you let the blue player get to seven (7) mana you deserve to lose. Combat steps are important, anon!
>>96664003>dependent on having a permanent that the spell you want to counter is targetingOh no
>>96664036Senseis isn't a scry ability first off and because that is an integral part of the filter through your deck combo it does.
>>96664031>noo you're doing weird jank in commnader instead of playing overpowered and boring and broken staple cards like cyclonic rift
>>96664056except this whole thing started with Ugin's Binding being presented as "better" than Cyc Rift.
>>96664050oh godI'm bad at Magic
>>96664073Are you fucking kidding me
>>96664019Okay, but my greater point remains the same. In order to do that setup, here's all the steps you need to go through:>Get Binding in yard>Get 7 power creature on board>Get targetted while Not of this World is in handEven with the most efficient setup you're giving (playing Binding and using Regisaur), that still six mana and three cards. If you play it earlier, you're not hitting enough cards and you don't have the board presence to finish the game, and if you play it later, then you're just using it as a finisher, which to play proactively means you're casting a game-ending Eldrazi anyway. And, again, procing it with Not Of This World is reactive that's still very setup-dependent. Part of what makes Rift so deadly is that it's versatile and harder to interrupt. Because it only needs one card in hand, a blue player with seven mana is never a safe target to go against, and your board is always at risk of being wiped. Because of this, the blue player is also free to set up their board for a game and clear your defenses.Binding lacks that. Binding is a threat as soon as it's in the graveyard, but that gives a very clear coordination in which it can be interrupted by literally any deck. If you're using it reactively to an opponent's attack, you're casting a seven mana spell at instant speed in combat, which ideally would be enough to deal with the attack anyway, and if your opponent is stupid enough to stumble into a Not Of This World, that's a legitimate skill issue on their part, not a strategy.I'm not in anon's camp of "it's a bad card because Rift exists." It's graveyard value, which is always good because self-mill exists. I'm saying it's not a Rift replacement because it serves a different role, and it's sure-as-fuck doesn't Rift better than Rift.
>>96664034You die to any semi-competent Voltron, stax, aggro, or combo deck. Kindly sit back down.
>>96662819Latepost but I will note that FFXIV went through this a while back. Beyond conceptual woke pandering (not saying that cannot at least be a minor contributor), the term "Beast Tribes" was used to describe what were initially these extremely small diminutive groups of less-feral civilizations of non-human entities that barely had enough culture and rulership qualities that they could be distinct from just roving groups of intelligent animals. The terminology was invented by a racist Lalafell (Dwarf/Halfling) financial group that wanted to basically differentiate them from regular citizenry and make it so that engaging with war with them was more appealing since they weren't warring with "real" civilizations, but just roving brigands and tribes of savages. Initially the term was one of those things where it's just an old word that grew favor with the people, as they found that the """Savage""" Beast Tribes were more noble and malleable than they thought. However, as time went along, the groups that were considered Beast Tribes stopped just being Kobolds and Sylphs found in the woods, and started becoming more advanced and technologically competent, with one in particular being leaps and bounds above any civilization that can be found on the planet. The term was initially changed to "Tribal", and then later "Allied Society", because calling a hyper-advanced adaptive Berserker Drone species "Beast Tribes" literally doesn't make sense. Some people were joking (with varying degrees of seriousness/urgency/etc.) about the change being because it's "Woke" to stop calling them Beast Tribes, but honestly it's just because it's functionally nonsensical after a certain point. Similarly, in MTG, calling Phyrexians, Eldrazi, Thopters, etc. and everything of the sort "Tribal", while it's easy to identify as a terminology, also doesn't make sense outside of the context of explicitly Lorwyn's "Tribes".
>>96664115>half of the big boys have indestructible and "lmao graveyard back into my deck" if they die>Zhulodok ain't going anywhere due to immunity from all colorsI will continue to cascade, and you cannot stop me.
>>96664129>half of the big boys have indestructibleIf that's legitimately a problem against your pod, you're playing with casuals that would also get filtered by Avacyn MLD. Every color either has some way to get around that, or can combo off before you get too many Eldrazi on the field.>I will continue to cascade, and you cannot stop meYou type like your penis is as small as your brain.
>>96663861>3 mana to play Eddie>4 mana to play Sabertooth>2 mana to bounce EddieYOOOOOOOOO BRO FIGURED OUT THE 9 MANA NO-BLUE BOUNCE!!!!!!1
>>96664154>>96664129Forgot pic
>>96663934I mean, if it's Legend (1985) we're finehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGJhG1zgeuc
Megaman Secret Lair when?
>>96664158...You know colorless has counterspells to specifically prevent that stuff, right?
>>96663954>need a card in grave AND a 7+ mana card on field>it's a highly specific counterspell so you can't even play it whenever you want >opponent can't be targeting anything but your very big colorless things or else all that set up costs just as much as rift>"Bro it's free rift!"This has to be mental retardation, no hair is this rancid
>>96664176>Well uh hmm if I get all four of these cards in the correct order and you do these common answers in a very specific order and have nothing else...At this point you're arguing "if you have no answers, and I have all the answers, I win!" Even you must realize how stupid that sounds when you start getting in a pissing match of hypotheticals at that level when you're assuming a lot more than the "have two counterspells in hand" presumption we're giving to our Summary Dismissal player.
>>96664197At this point I'm not sure if it's just a newfag that doesn't inderstand incidental vs inherent value, or yet another small-dick-energy fag that thinks being obnoxious is a personality trait.
>>96664197It is a free rift though. I would hope there are hoops to jump through for it.
>>96664234You (usually) can't Binding on the opponent-before-your's end step and then Windfall the next turn.
>>96664266No but you wouldn't need to because it doesn't cost 7 mana to do it in your main phase. I dont really get the argument. It is literally cyc rift effect, just in a roundabout way, for obvious reasons. No its not 1:1 but it is a one sided board clear, even for effectively the same mana.
>>96664234Do you think chicken tendies are free because mommy buys them and put them in the oven for you too?
>>96664280>in your main phaseWay to miss the point, retard.Rift+Wheels punish overextension. Doing it while keeping mana up to further your own play is a power move.
>>96664280you can't do it for free at all unless an opponent deigns to target one of your big boys with removal (or you blow an ability/removal spell yourself)
>>96664290No I put them in myself.
>>96664219Mate, you're also assuming you have "that one card" to do a wipe. You're also assuming a wipe means anything to a deck that plays on double cascades and also has a ton of wipes like All Is Dist, Calamity of the Titans, etc.
>>96664308and yet I bet you whine about Farewell every single time
>>96664322I counter farewell with my warping wail/etc. The way I play my spaghetti monsters is I just try to hold one protection at all times for a board wipe. If they nuke one creature, it's no big deal since double cascades fills the hole easily (or the billions of tutors like eye of ugin, sanctum of ugin, conduit of ruin, etc). Either way this argument is silly. I've dealt with boardwipes pretty well with counters or just quickly rebuilding.
>>96664308>That one cardI chose Summary Dismissal because it was designed to stop game-ending Eldrazi casts (set with nu-Emrakul, remember), but there are a fuckload of other options. White has Magistrate and a myriad of Rule of Law effects, or can either kill you before you set up or get you on the backfoot, and enough board wipes that don't care about indestructible that it doesn't matter. Red will outrace you, and if they don't target you first, it's because you're playing with a group that is there to make everyone have a fun, long game, which isn't skill on your part. Green is doing what you're doing. Black will be at 10 life but have half their deck dumped onto the field. That just leaves blue, which you're directly comparing your deck to AND has several ways to get around cascade and stompy with commkn answers every deck should be running. Tale's End stops a trigger. Summary Dismissal stops you cold. The people who actually have the size of penis you want people to think you have will play a foil Time Stop.
>>96664340>My strategy is that my opponents only deal with me when I have a countermeasure to their answers
>>96664121>This well thought out, in-depth explanation will either get completely ignored or mocked.Grim
>>96663664bump for hivemind/mirari/narset/display of power
>>96664292I didnt miss anything point. Its effect is cyc rifts effect. Correct you cant end step binding. You also are very unlikely to main phase cyc rift and have a turn afterwards still.>>96664290No but if I order a drink and get nuggets for free they are free.>>96664299What? The cyc rift is a side effect of playing a 7 mana+ spell it is free upside to casting a bomb.
>>96664019I wish we could get more Zombie and Skeleton Dinosaurs.
>>96664358Yes, because likewise they don't always have an answer in hand. That's the joy of the singleton format with 99 cards.
>>96664404>Despite not having the versatility of Rift or the raw standalone power and potential usage as a setup piece instead of a payoff, this is Rift>>96664407>My opponents never play redundant effects, but I always have every single silver bullet I need in handThis is how your posts read.
>>96664447IJUSTHAVE IT
Good? With ways to recur it?
>>96664465When people ask questions like this do we assume that they refer to a good stuff pile or that their IQ is in room temperature values?
>>96664465>goodYes, very.>recur it?Plenty of options although bouncing/flicker would likely be better.>what cards?Scryfall
>>96664455Yet another card that stops Binding that should be run in every deck of its colors.
>>96664664"Should" is very different from "Is" when it comes to Commander players. You're talking about a demographic that struggles to run more than 2 pieces of creature removal, let alone GY hate.
>>96664664I just run it to give token niggers (niggers who play token strategies, not a single black person included for the purpose of increasing diversity) a slap on the dick
>>96664455Times when you always had it?
>>96664681I get that, but it also seems retarded how many people overlook this card, since every mode of it, while it is meta (if you really are new enough to call graveyard hate "meta"), can at best outright win the game.I've several games where people complained about it being used to nuke their life totals, one guy even complaining about losing to a "bad card" while answering a Dualcaster combo.
>>96664737it's in a lot of precons and I feel like people have a tendency to write off cards that come in precons as lesser than other cards
>Player tutors Sunforger without casting it>I'm about to wheel himOOPS
>be boring larper>get no traction>become a namefag larper>still get no tractionLove to see it.
>>96664773I'm giving you a (You) just to spite the other anon.
What's with all these niggas acting like they're cedh pros? I know none of you play anything above a $200 deck.
>>96663952Sylvan Library and Return to Wildspeaker. The latter got me 9 cards.>>96663876>>96663917Yeah tutors are a must for this deck. It's almost 50% land, and you really need to get Oracle or Coursier out to consistently to filter through the deck. Even better when you have Horn of Greed and Lotus Cobra out as well. It was much easier/faster when Prime Time and Rofellos were around.Tutors I run:>Sylvan Tutor>Worldy Tutor>Green Sun Zenith>Tooth and Nail>Summoner's Pact>Fierce Empath>>96663961Thanks. Most of the deck is from 2009-2012, and I've been updating it recently.
Commander for this feel?
>>96664856Take this potato.
>>96664849You genuinely dont know how any of your cards work anon and cheated started to finish.>summoners pact a terastodonWhere are you getting the 9 mana to pay for it AND Garruks? Please stop larping in 4chan its embarrassing.
>>96664909Isn't she like 40?
>>96664911>Where are you getting the 9 mana to pay for it AND Garruks? Please stop larping in 4chan its embarrassing.All the lands and Lotus Cobra, anon. I'm playing four land a turn. I think I had 17 lands at the end of the game, plus soul ring.
>>96664932>lotus cobraThat came out the next turn? Sure thing guy.>17 landsI can visibly see that is not a stack of 27 lands on your field.To top it all off you've literally set this up on the fucking floor I can see the pseudo wood planks. Do you and your pod play on the floor?
FUUUUUCK I DID IT AGAIN!
>>96660909you somehow managed to put all the boring overpowered staples on the board, maybe your entire deck is boring goodstuff?
4808SamefagNo (you)
>>9666495317 land. I'm not sure of the exact play of everything and I left stuff out, like that BoP. Turn 4 I had 13 mana, enough to cast Terastodon and Garruk. I had no problem paying the summoner's pact turn 5 with Rude Awakening and casting everything else. I don't know the problem desu.And that's my dining room table. That's real wood boards.
>>96664817cedh pros proxy everything so whats your point?
>>96665135>17 land on turn 6Can someone check the math on how likely this is? Also on getting the GSZ again in 3 turns?
>>96665116That just happens sometimes, anon. I never once saw these other overpowered staples...>Avenger of Zendikar>Ulamog>Triumph of Hordes>Genesis Wave>Tooth and Nail>Vorinclex
>>96665198I'm telling you it's very possible if you get Azusa and Sylvan Library out turn 2, and then Oracle of Mul Daya out turn 3. Combined with tutors and that draw off you're able to pretty consistently play 4 lands off the top of the deck per turn with 46 land total.
>>96665135>>96665245I ain't going to say that it's impossible that you got a Sol Ring turn 1 into a godly T2, or even that you procced off a GCZ twice while Oracle was out.I'm going to call bullshit though that you were this accelerated, were constantly this far ahead on mana, had a planeswalker out, and the table didn't bother killing you, except maybe one guy with swords, especially given how narrow your supposed board was and how vilnerable your life total would have been, or that nobody bothered disrupting your field in any way.That, or you brought a Sylvan Library to a game with retards.
Zidane Kindred
>>96664817but anon, I don't play anything below $200
>>96665296>I'm going to call bullshit though that you were this accelerated, were constantly this far ahead on mana, had a planeswalker out, and the table didn't bother killing you, except maybe one guy with swords, especially given how narrow your supposed board was and how vilnerable your life total would have been, or that nobody bothered disrupting your field in any way.That's just what happens sometimes, anon. One player was mono white and got nothing out but Rest in Piece, Lightning Greaves and a small creature. The deck with Swords of Light and Shadow was attacking the white player as he was the only one playing white or black, then he never got to attack me more than once with his Sword of Feast and Famine because I destroyed it with Terastodon. The last player, the one with Farwell, was pillow forted up nice and safe trying to get a combo together. He easily could have just wipe the whole board before I won, but like I said, he though I was only going to kill be able to take the other guys out next turn, certainly not him with all his walls up.
Why yes, I do have multiple phyrexian language cards in my deck. Would you like to read them?
>>96665296This is pretty much my thoughts on it too. If the game went the way you said it did and three other people let you set up solitaire without disrupting you at all your friends are retarded or the strangers you roped into this were retarded.At my locals I can't keep my commander on the table for two turns; you're telling me they let you keep all that bullshit for 3+ turn cycles untouched?I would have fucking nuked your sol ring if I had nothing else I could have touched.
>>96665385no, you're going to read the text for me out loud
>>96665388That's usually what happens in my group too anon, but sometimes you get a god-hand and they have a subpar hand and never draw answers. It also doesn't help when your deck can just ramp crazy and pull multiple large spells out of nowhere. I was basically doubling my mana each turn. They were all sitting at 5-6 lands each and maybe one mana rock and dork among the three of them.
>>96665353>That's just what happens sometimes, anonThe more you say shit like this, thought-terminating lines, the less I believe you and the more I want to reach through your screen and punch you.Six turns, and nobody plays a counterspell or board wipe? Fuck off and stop LARPing, faggot.>Ebebebebut one guy had FarewellYeah, and between that many players and turns, that was the only piece of removal, or did the rest just dodge the guy who was allegedly drawing three cards a turn and dropping four lands?Unironically kill yourself, faggot. Turn 6 isn't even that fast of a kill nowadays anyway.
>>96665385reading the card explains the card
>>96665390do a voice
>>96665450>Six turns, and nobody plays a counterspell or board wipe?Correct. Unusual for this group, yes, but still what happened. >>96665450>Yeah, and between that many players and turns, that was the only piece of removal, or did the rest just dodge the guy who was allegedly drawing three cards a turn and dropping four lands?>Unironically kill yourself, faggot. Turn 6 isn't even that fast of a kill nowadays anyway.Only one could attack me, and he was, but then I neutralized the threat. Turn 6 is probably the fastest kill we've had in our group in a long time, and hardly anyone plays a super competitive combo deck. When I could play Rofellos and Primeval Titan this deck would sometimes do this turn 4-5 more constitently.
>>96665512>Only one could attack me, and he was, but then I neutralized the threat.Yeah dude, you really had an impenetrable defense there with Azusa and Oracle. There was absolutely nothing anybody thought to have done after the miracle Summoner's pact and two 3/3s, and nobody heard of a counterspell.Just stop.
I've won on turn 3 or 4 with this guy too many times to count, eventually had to scrap the deck
>finally get B's citadel>lets see what the hype is all about>get to play it twice even in Y'shtolamein gott, this is disgusting
>>96664817>I know none of you play anything above a $200 deck.Bro I have a 200$ card in one deck (its WoF)
>>96665540Correct.Only one person was playing blue and the only counterspell they had was for countering a spell that targets them or permanents they control. I think it was Hindering Light?>>96665541Based.
Jeremy’s leagueNew Edh format. Exact same as normal edh but any modern/scifi set is banned. (Assassins creed, duskmourn, edge, spiderman)
>>96665823>this isn't already your house rules
My house rules:> no inf combos> max 10 UB prints per deck> no proxies period> no game changers> no skullclamp> no anime sleeves/playmats> no stax> max 5 tokens allowed on field per person> green banned
>won against the Krenko and Markov player at the same timeFeels good, man
>>96665923your victory is only worth mentioning if you played with a deck worse than theirs
Guys he literally set his "game" up on the floor.
>>96665938The tools of my deedhttps://archidekt.com/decks/15867611/karonas_aura_of_hate
Can i get some more feedback on my budget vamp deck please?https://moxfield.com/decks/BcnXtMXyeUqKydslNL-3gwI cut some interaction and win-more cards to go as wide and fast as possible, like you guys suggested before.Also added a few fun cards like grave pact and banner of kinship just cus they seem really impactful in this deck.Considering maybe cutting Sorin and i wanna add Fell the Profane and Bloodletter of Aclazotz some time, idk what else to change besides obvious things like getting better tutors etc.
>>96661130>>96662791Better than their original change of 'typal'
>>96660968Is that a foil charizard? Isn't that like the black lotus of pokemon?
>>96666077No the most expensive Pokemon card is the illustrator Pikachu which sells for literal millions in good condition.A gem mint 1st edition base set Charizard definitely is very expensive tho.
>>96661481I've been playing since 94 color pie breaks are fine if they're overcosted or suck efficiency wise.
>>96665950oh hell yeah love karonadoes the deck play smoothly? everytime i tried to build a deck with her it just sucks
>>96666116It does because I play pillow fort instead of aggro like everyone else
>>96666077It's no BL, but it is up there. It's closer to a P9. >>96666091Yeah, mine's not 1st ed. It's also beat to shit (HP) because I was a retarded kid lmao. Maybe a couple hundred bucks at best.
>>96666129Ungraded (but decent looking) it'd be worth about 250 so if it looks fucked up it's probably not worth much at all sadly lol
>>96666021Looks nice, I'd probably add a protection spell or two more but that's probably due to my group. Crab best girl, btw.
quirky chungus
>>96666159Thanks glad you like it fren! I did wanna add a boros charm at least yeah, idk how that slipped my mind.Btw can you explain what you like about crab? She's fine but it kinda eludes me why she would be someone's favorite.
>>96665823Cringe.
Can we all agree Foundations was a pretty good set?
>>96666199It was terrific, its one downside is that we're not getting another one of them for potentially another four years
>>96666168>noooooo you have to be a miserable faggot with no reason to live like ME!
>>96666168I ate a card once.
>>96665613yeah turns out getting to play spells off the top for free is pretty strong
>>96666021>budget deck>Bloodletter of AclazotzI see
>>96666168jokey ruling notes are sovl
>>96666282I mean yeah the deck is only like 200 bucks, these can easily go to 900+ if they're optimized
>>96664909There’s no borderless version of this card…
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>>96665711>LARPer is a squirrelniggerThat scans>>96665823>Mirrodin is banned
>>96666454invasion block is banned, too much urza in a mech
>>96663070Final Fantasy also fits the universe within, just like WH40K and LotR does. This is obvious because of previous sets. Spiderman is a huge cum stain on Magic The Gathering as a whole.
>>96666896this is the ultimate goal of wotc. making UBshit so egregiously bad the others don't seem that bad. the same way game companies push the envelope with lootboxes. suddenly not having them is a reason to cheer
>>96666925If you doomers had actually bought product you wouldn't be in this mess. But you wanted wotc to cater to you without paying them.
>>96666956there was never a chance. UBtourists consume product to collect which means they are by default buying more than people who actually play the game and buy to PLAY the game. wotc is catering to outside collectors because their wallets are new an thus more full
>>96666982Also because you guys dont buy product, at all. Mr. Big Dick buying a single at his LGS for the vig and wondering when he's gonna find one that doesnt go belly-up in the next 2 years
>>96666925did you mean make UW shit so bad? because I'd rather play Final Fantasy the Gathering than Aethermourn
>>96666991>>96667008they have also started making UW sets as unappealing as possible to boost UB sales, yeah
>>96667014That's not really true. Bloomburrow was good, and MKM was mechanically interesting even if the story was a snoozer
I watched Seth Probablybetterknownassaffronolive's video yesterday and I knew Hasbro was in dire straits but I didn't realize how bad it was. MTG is apparently currently (for the past 2 quarters) the only thing profitable at the company. Hate the game not the player, etc. I guess.
>>96663315> 7 mana
>>96667014Schizo post
>>96666956>Don't like direction of the game>Don't buy it>>This is all your fault! If only you bought more product!Why does this thread attract the retards?
>>96667329Idk why did it attract you?
>>96667329I think he means buying the product you like
>>96667489The person you are replying to doesnt like any product and also encourages proxies.No he doesnt understand why this makes him insufferable
>>96660922MVP in my Terra, Herald of Hope. Under 3 power to rez with her, then Sister brings back *any* target, untapped, and gains me life. Based as hell
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>>96667171I think it's not QUITE that, but it is WotC is the big thing for Hasbro. I think they just about break even on Transformers, and Monopoly Go makes quite a bit, but everything else is losing money.
>>96667489What if I don't like any of the new product?
>>96667728then get old product
>>96667458Reddit-tier response
>>96667171Dnd is also profitable. As if licensing. But all their toys are fucked because the toy market got fucked during covid + tariffs on Chinese plasticThe smartest thing they did was have printers world wide for mtg so tariffs and export fees don't touch the golden goose
>>96667974>Dnd is also profitable.not for long, with all the garbage WOTC is pulling
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