Previous: >>96827680 All Shitposting is Strictly Prohibited Edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQ:How do you deal with despising other people who you share this hobby with?
Wrong previous but who really gives a fuck>>96836366
>>96839875>WAIT SEN TRIPLETS CAN USE CITY OF BRASS NOW?!!?! SINCE WHEN THE FUCK WHEN?!!>AAAAAIIIIIEEEEE MY SACRED COMMANDER RULES!!!!>MY FUARKING COLOR IDENTITY REEEEE!!lol good one OP
>>96839900>>> City of Brass is a colorless land anon, the fuck are you talking about?
>TQI try not to think about it, and I prefer to vent about it to my friends rather than make it a problem when I'm playing at my LGS. I've tolerated many things, the price you pay for a social game with randoms.
>>96839915>he didn't play back in 2015haha newfag
>>96839900City of Brass is colorless, anon
>>96839932>>96839922
>>96839934Anon 2015 was almost 11 years ago.
>>96839940and hybrid rules will be changed next year, correct
>>96839940>check>that's actually trueFuck you.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96839944And that would be a terrible choice but that only makes it sound more plausible to happen.
>>96839875>All Shitposting is Strictly Prohibited EditionEven the Sen Triplets can't stop me.
>Why yes, with my Gilded Lotus on field, I will be casting this COLORLESS card for 3 red!
How are the Final Fantasy commander decks? Good out of the box? Fun to build and play?
>>96840056>casting colorless cards with colored mana? impossible!!
>>96840063all of them are pretty good out of the box and the Terra one is the most fun imo
>>96840056>3 mana for the shittiest burn damage everPeople really invent super contrived scenarios and the payoff is nothing.
>>96840077B-BUT IT MIGHT HELP A MONO BLACK DECK KILL SOMETHING!
>>96840067Even if the hybrid mana rules changed, you could not put Ghostfire in any deck because its identity is red. This would not be the case for Flame Javelin>>96840077For colors with no access to fucking "damage" to face, it's actually an insanely good rate.Blue and green essentially have none, white and black have "lose life". >>96840087Might help a monogreen deck remove creatures, dumbass.
>>96840097colorless is not a color identity you fucking moron
>>96840097They don't want to understand you anon. They want to pretend like they can't understand a basic concept so they can act smug.
>>96840097OH NO NOT MONO GREEN REMOVING CREATURES ANYTHING BUT MONO GREEN REMOVING CREATURES
>>96840109where were you back in the day when color identity meant you could only use lands that could only produce the specific colors of your commander?
>pod like to play slow, rampy decks that snowball with little interactionmy aggro decks kill them even if they 3v1 me, but I'm sick of playing aggro all the time. what do if I want to try something more interaction heavy? preferably rakdos, those colors are so comfy to play.
>>96840117Oh wow anon, if you think that changing the rule about mana lands produced should never have happened, then you must really be against changing the rules on hybrid mana, RIGHT?You wouldn't just use the fact that rules had changed 11 years ago to justify changing them even more now, RIGHT?
>>96840134>i'm ok with (THING) because it happened a long time ago when i wasn't playing so it didn't trigger my autism>but i'm not ok with (THING) because it'll happen next year and it'll trigger my autismkekw
https://moxfield.com/decks/6iZU9YicqkyRrt5kb8-7NQr8?
>>96840142Answer the questions you were given, shill.
>>96840147admit your own hypocrisy first, retard
>>96839932City of Brass is all colors because it has all mana symbols in its text, silly billy
Oopsy, did I make a stinky post? I guess someone will have to spank me UwU
>cantrips in mono-gProblem, chud?
>>96840170I have a bigger problem giving this to the Izzet storm players.
>>96840170>red will be a bit stronger nowAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEE
>>96840173As we all know, izzet is severely lacking in draw and rituals. Manamorphose will be what pushes them over the edge.
>>96840170Literally one of the most definitively green cards ever printed is a cantrip
>>96840170cantrips are all over green retard
>>96840159Point to those mana symbols anon
>>96840184>of it doesnt completely make the game unplayable it is permissible!>boiling water in the pot doesn’t matter until the frogs die!You should work for Hasbro if you don’t already
>>96840097>For colors with no access to fucking "damage" to face, it's actually an insanely good rate.>Blue and green essentially have none, white and black have "lose life".Hmmm yes today I will pay 3 red mana via pain lands(?) or treasures(?) to deal 4 burn damage to someones face in my mono blue deckOh Im laffing anon
>>96840213>Hmmm yes today I will pay 3 red mana via pain lands(?) or treasures(?)Gilded Lotus.
>>96840117Where were YOU, newfag? City of Brass was always legal, making mana outside of your color identity would just become colorless instead back then.
>>96840184Manamorphose is easily one of the best, if not the best, storm cards ever printed and izzet getting it is actually a big deal.
>>96840213
>>96840208>Color combo with access to the best draw and rituals in the game gets cantrip that's mana-neutral>Somehow this is the straw that buckbroke anon's back
>>96840208>FIRE>modern horizons>collector's boosters>secret lair>UB>but muh hybrid!!just play PreEDH already lol
>>96840234???
>>96840184RUx storm would love manamorphose, yes.
>>96840241>still arguing it doesn’t matter until the game is destroyed
>>96840097>Blue and green essentially have none, white and black have "lose life".
>>96840252>Color combo with better versions of effect get worse version of it>LITERALLY destroying the game!
>>96840249So let 'em have it. This sounds fun. Why should they not have it, really?
>>96840230>making mana outside of your color identity would just become colorless instead back then.>it's not anymore and it made sen triplets broken>legalizing hybrid will make izzet decks broken too!!!AAAAIIIIEEEE GUYS MY COLOR IDENTITY HAS BEEN RUINED!!!
>>96840243You were told last thread, youre not going to convince anyone to stop caring about hybrid mana by telling them they should have cared about previous things first.It’s not a logically coherent stance to say that the game getting worse now is okay because the game got worse previously. If you really thought previous things had made the game worse you would also be opposed to the current thing
>>96840097>Might help a monogreen deck remove creatures, dumbass.OH THE HUMANITY
Manamorphose will be what finally makes him good. Before today he basically had no viable ways to win.
>>96840267being a hypocrite is logically coherentit just makes you not worth listening toso stay salty and i'll see you next year to harvest your tears :)
manamorphose? finally i'll be bracket 2 playable!!
I hope the hybrid change happens because I want the game to die.
>>96840278You’re deflecting from current thing being bad by saying previous things also badYou don’t even know that the people you’re saying this to didn’t think previous thing bad, you just want to make it a conversation about previous thing to stop conversation about current thingShill tactic
>>96840305>muh shillsyep, just the same anti-ub tards rehasing their same tired linesand you're still a hypocrite and i'm glad you're not denying that lmao
>>96840311Youre still a shill and I’m glad you’re not denying that lmao
>>96840117I couldn’t agree more anon. Once we prevent the hybrid mana change we will also change the lands rule. You’ll agree to this, right? Because your arguments are internally consistent right? You would have no reason to object to what I just proposed if you held genuine beliefs right? Because you’re not just deploying an intentional method of disruption right?
>>96840311>anon doesn't know what a hypocrite is
>>96840312>being ok with a change is shilling nowlmaoyou're still a retarded hypocrite btw kek
>>96840321What the fuck are you talking about?
>>96840330that anon's going full schizo over hybridmany such cases. sad!
there's nothing wrong with the change to hybrid mana
>1 retard thinks it’s the funniest thing in the world to be a contrarian and spam this thread with pro hybrid change shit, and now we all must suffer it
>>96840234Why did they print lower case Hs on all these old cards, it triggers my autism
G..guys? I cant tell who is trolling whom anymore. P..please go back to the regular postings..
I've come around on this change because of how completely assblasted this shit general is about it. Imagine getting mad about fucking Beseech the Queen in 2025. I can't take you seriously. You are bad players.
>>96840366see you next year
>>96840378>HAHA I, A TOTALLY NON-PARTISAN 3rd PARTY HAVE ACTUALLY DECIDED TO SIDE WITH MYSELF- I MEAN THAT ONE GUYNo one’s buying it
>>96840347Why this punchable expression?
>>96840384Yeah yeah you did this thing in the last thread where when your arguments were undermined you just reverted to saying the change is going to happen as if that’s some kind of win for you.This isn’t an argument about what will happen, it’s an argument about whether it’s good or bad, and you have lost repeatedly
>>96840401>it’s an argument about whether it’s good or badand who decides what's good or bad? (You)?bwahahaha
>>96840387Kafkatraps are a rhetoric of the smallminded.
>>96840387If blanketing every dissenting opinion as one autist makes it easier for you to compartmentalize go ahead I don't care what you believe. But I'll still be laughing over fear mongering that colorless can now spend 6 mana for a burn spell.
>>96840387>everyone who disagrees with my world view is the same personMeds. NOW.
>>96840401>you just reverted to saying the change is going to happen as if that’s some kind of win for you.> Being an ideologueSmall brain> Being an empiricistGigachad, Galaxy brain
>>96840423>>96840426>>96840429Samefag
>>96839875>>96839900Sen triplets isn't even good but always causes so much seethe. Every time I sit down against a Sen triplets deck I know iy will be easier to win because everyone always focuses their removal on the Sen player instead of me.
Is this good?
>>96840143hhhmmmm.......what did you mean by this ?
>>96840508dogshit>sees it's sorceryis this a misprint?
>>96840366It's not mere spam It's paid shills wotc is targeting me
>>96840508It's mediocrebeing sorcery speed really gimps it but it's still a good rate if you can reliably cast it for 2 or 3
>used to be the big stompy player>realize im playing nothing but control nowweird feeling.
>>96840532Kismet is too slow to be good thoughever
>>96840535>card that slows the game down is too slowyou think...maybe...other cards could slow the game down to make slow cards playable??
>>96840539Negative. There are better 4 CMC cards to run. Id buy a charismatic conqueror for every deck before running thatYa, ya, Im a goodstuff slop enjoyer. Oink oink. Did you pay the 2 for my smothering tithe?
>>96840549thanks captain obvious
>>96840539Anon, the problem with Kismet is that by the time you can put it down, it's just not going to do much.
>>96840446
>>96840539Just play Authority of the Consuls and Blind Obedience like a sane person.
>>96840617>don't hit lands
post legit sleeper commanders that people vastly underestimate and then get royally fucked to deathpic related, gut is literally impossible to play in bracket 2 without stomping the table
>>96840629>basically irrelevant by the time Kismet's castable
>>96840640Kind of surprised you didnt run haunted one with that.Was Gut actually in bg3? Sounds familiar but I cant place it
>>96840645Oh nm Im dumb shes the first goblin priestess you kill when you get to the gobbo camp
>>96840640A smartly built sacrifice/aristocrats deck is always a sleeper hit at casual tables because poor players are not able to identify a single permanent as the main threat and tend to not recognize when the deck is close to winning. I know I fell into that trap many times.
>Go to the official discord to share my thoughts on hybrid mana>read the thread a bit after sharing my thoughtsWhy are the people that are right also so fucking retarded? All of them have reached the right conclusion but every single one of them is fucking terrible at advocating for it.
>>96840640Right, post yer list then befo' I mark ya
>>96840643How is an inescapable stasis lock irrelevant?
>>96840539Anon that effect is literally not worth playing at more than 2 mana anon. Thalia gets a pass because it's a 3/2 first strike creature I guess.
>>96839875>How do you deal with despising other people who you share this hobby with?Therapy.
>>96840502>Sen triplets isn't even good but always causes so much seethe. Every time I sit down against a Sen triplets deck I know iy will be easier to win because everyone always focuses their removal on the Sen player instead of me.why are they bad?
>>96840347I ended up buying this promo from my LGSI can't say no to that smug mug
>>96840648hurp le durr to you as well faggot, you're probably wrong too.
>>96840539>other cards could slow the game down to make slow cards playable??Then you're playing stax/control and now everyone rightfully hates you and you're in the wrong.
>>96840647it's more like a 4man FFA is already complex and aristocrats only make that even more complicatedas for me, i just go over the top, just like in 60 card land
>>96840648>Why are the people that are right also so fucking retarded? All of them have reached the right conclusion but every single one of them is fucking terrible at advocating for it.Grrrr and all the people who are pro hybrid color change there have decent arguments too despite being objectively wrong.
>UB and MTG is now failing cause spider-man and all that>Q3 growth of MTG was even faster than during FFI am confused.
>>96840648The right conclusion being that it doesn't matter and it doesn't even violate color identity since hybrid cards were always designed to fit into either color.
>>96840694>hybrid cards were always designed to fit into either colorVery poorly for a lot of them tbf
Just make a list of accepted and legalized hybrid cards. Exclude the shit that doesn't work.
>>96840710Bro we're talking about the format where "banned as a commander" and "banned in the 99" is too difficult for people.
>>96840645haunted just works too well with token and artifact saccing. I won a lot of games by saccing half my table with warren soultrader, then saccing the treasures I got from it, which can easily net 20-30 damage to all opponents, who will all be pretty low by then from the skeletons. also possible with sac outlets + Mahadi or Pitiless Plunderer.aristocrats tactics also help once your opponents try drop board wipes.>>96840647there is something magic about this goblin. my table knows exactly what she does and how dangerous she is, but they always fail to remove her early, and when she has 3-4 skeletons out, she starts to kill everyone off. >>96840652enjoyhttps://moxfield.com/decks/rOOLTA_u5U6A_YfzitsIKQ
>>96840678i love stax
>>96840719And yet nebulous constantly changing feels based brackets are not. Brackets where people here routinely inform others to read articles and watch videos to even understand the shit.
>>96840720>*iron throne just works too wellI'm tired, two commander nights in a row took a tolloverall 6 wins out of 9 games
>>96840710Name one that would not work in the clown format that still has The One Ring legal.
>>96840757>ONE RING IS SOOOO BROKENI hate this "modern has an issue so we gotta treat it like commander does." Same shit with Nadu. Stop banning cards in other formats because they were too powerful in an unrelated format with less than half the card pool available.
>>96840774Okay so therefore 0 hybrid cards are an issue since the bar is above TOR.
Best creatures for reanimating from graveyard in rakdos? I find myself with a decent amount of stuff but nothing to finish the game off.
Abdel + Cultist of the Absolute
>>96840802worldgorger dragon
>>96840710>Exclude the shit that doesn't work.not a single hybrid mana card is remotely as close to as powerful as most of the ~top 50 commonly played cards in EDH. Nevermind the part where the change literally benefits thematic monocolored decks the most who now have access to effects always meant to be playable in monocolor, while 5-color WUBRG slop commanders are literally unchanged, and 4 color and 3 colors likely already had access to 90% of the ones they're wanting to play. There's no universe where bitching about Double Cleave being playable in Akroma, Angel of Wrath makes sense when Partner is already giving people 4 colors plus permanent card advantage, and cards like Sisay and Kenrith are mono-white permanents with mono-white casting costs who are immune to shit like null elemental blast who nevertheless count as WUBRG and give access to every single card in the game
>>96840791>>96840812But if Vivi gets Manamorphose, then it will suddenly be a really good commander.
>>96840812
>>96840720Harmonic Prodigy. I didn't realize it but that's a very effective card with Gut and Agent Of The Iron Throne. Backgrounds give the commander the ability so it would double the triggers from it too. That's a good call.
This world is not my home, I'm just a-passing throughMy treasures are laid up somewhere beyond the blue;The angels beckon me from heaven's open door,And I can't feel at home in this world anymore.
>>96840857uh oh hybrid melty
Thinking about making a Satoru deckwhat big things should I cheat out? some nice big turn 4/5 'fuck you's
>>96839875>TQI've never had an issue in person with friends or people at my LGS. Everyone is reasonable and chill, and everyone there seems to dislike UB stuff. I can understand the angle of UB (more money), but for the love of fuck at least stick to fantasy stuff. FF and LOTR generally fit, but how the hell do you manage to pick stuff like Dr. Who? I don't think I've ever seen someone play stuff from Dr. Who either.
>have some shitty experiences lately, nothing too novel>post about it>'fake'I have 4 different game stores nearby, and they are all really packed on 4 different days - each time I play at them with different people, it's unenjoyable salty people, or people are just pissed off. I played a game where my arcane signet was countered, and I was just mana screwed and chilled out on my phone, everyone was just miserable. I went to the my first magiccon this year, and the pick up commander games were so much fun, at all levels. I want to keep playing but maybe I should take a break.
>>96840884Is this a suicide note? I don't recognize this one after going through the entire wikipedia list of recorded last words last night.
>>96840942>how the hell do you manage to pick stuff like Dr. Who?gavin verhey loves dr. who, simple as that
>>96840692FF Sales continued strong after the initial release.
>my shop is full of trannies>they oddly complain the least of all the randos thereI've had some fat bearded swordfag looking guy scream about my deck before. But not the trannies.
>>96840964My store is a bunch of guys who go after work (with a surprising amount of lawyers and accountants), a couple guys in their 50s, a few nerds (either skeletons or blobs, no in between), and maybe one or two girls with neon colored hair.
>>96840690I very deliberately did not say what side of the argument I'm on. You want to read my post as vagueposting as pro-hybrid, that's on you. I'm just lamenting that the people on my side are really fucking bad at making their case.To be clear; the arguments on the other side? Also fucking awful. Absolute fucking nonsense with shifting goalposts. It's just that the people who agree with me are failing to convince me, a guy who already agrees with them.
>>96840720Run Skullclamp or else
>>96840993To be clear, I havent been to whatever location you are referring to and I was just shitposting for the lolz.But yes I did falsely presume
>>96840986All the bearded blob fuckers here are douches who look and act like Walter from the Big Lebowski.
>>96840942There are basically three possible factors that go into picking a UB set.Factor one: is this someone at WotC's favorite thing? This is why we got Dr. Who (Gavin is a huge Dr Who Fan), it's how we got Final Fantasy (a bunch of the designers/developers are big FF Fans), it's why we wound up with Spider-man (Mark Rosewater loves superheroes, especially Marvel.)Factor two: Money. Can WotC use this to turn on the money printer? I feel like a good chunk of the smaller UB products like the secret lairs are just this. WotC trying to put in a small amount of effort to make a quick buck.Factor three: Hasbro wants them to. This was more common early on, but it's still there. The Walking Dead (the TV show specifically )has some connections to Hasbro which is why that happened. WotC owns D&D which is why that happened (including to promote BG3). Hasbro owns Transformers so here they are, getting crowbarred into The Brother's War.
>>96840692People that have an interest in medieval fantasy/Magic the Gathering and having an interest in the magitech Final Fantasy franchise is easy to see. But having Spider-Man, New York, and that kind of stuff doesn't really fit like a Final Fantasy crossover does.
>>96841028You will simply never convince me it is anything but "IP I like is ok" hypocrisy.
>>96840692Books are cooked so the shareholders dont panic
The hybrid mana and rhystic study chimpouts are just WotC trying to deflect discussion about how awful Spider-Man was and how awful TMNT will be in conjunction with ever increasing product fatigue.
These cards never interact, right? Because Yenna's ability isn't a spell and copies cease being spells once they leave the stack? I would love to be wrong since it's really cool tech for Yenna, but I don't think I am.
>>96841038You do know this is a massive crime that would land people in jail, right?
>>96841024>secret lairsWhat's the deal with secret lair anyway? Is it just one giant FOMO machine? The site is perpetually out of stock of everything.
>>96841036it's not hypocrisy to state the obviousasian IP > westoid IP
>>96841036Not him, but I can see the argument.>mtg, at its core, is fantasy stuff like wizards, elves, dragons, and so on>FF, save for some exceptions like 7 and the road trip, is fantasy stuff that fits the same theme of wizards and so on
>>96840868good observation. harmonic prodigy is good either way, you reach 6 skeletons and go lethal before the table has dropped anything significant onto the board>>96841005I tried to keep the bullshit down by excluding some of the more ridiculous draw staples. my friends just couldn't beat the deck. it's currently a constant work in progress, this is version 9, and I'm thinking about taking it either more towards a budget build or focus more on treasures and see were it leads me.
>>96840949>it's unenjoyable salty peopleedh is the least competitive format but attracts the most insufferable players because of that. the same way Smash Bros players are infinitely worse to deal with than somebody into like Soul Calibur or Virtua Fighter. If you want a chill time either play with close personal friends, or a format like Pauper. People who ONLY play EDH are also the single worst people to play magic with ever, because they've never done a 60 card format they take a casual multiplayer format way too seriously, and they think having a "better" EDH deck makes them more skilled. people used to 60 card magic and actual competitive bo3 formats with a sideboard are way less of a pain, because A: they know that "better" decks and stronger cards aren't inherently more fun, the vast majority of constructed players don't play Vintage or Legacy and instead play Modern or Standard or something like Pauper or Penny Dreadful BECAUSE they're lower power than Legacy/Vintage, and B: because they're used to an actual competitive format they know not to take EDH seriously. Being multiplayer, best of one, and with no sideboards already makes it a joke from a competitive perspective, let alone all the other aspects of the format. It's meant to be a casual beer and pretzels experience and taking it seriously is retarded
>>96841047Correct.
>>96841087>my friends just couldn't beat the deck.Well its a cool list. Its the sort of fast paced wam bam sac burn that I enjoy. My equivalent list would be Zurgo, kind of. My friend group would definitely not be bowled over by that list though, theyd have some counterplay ready.
>thought I ordered a card I needed>wait weeks>wonder where it is>apparently I never ordered itThis happens too much
>>96841073yes, the whole point is artificial scarcity+FOMO price gouging with direct to consumer sales instead of to retailers. at one point some were print-to-demand but lmao that's long gone now it's get lucky in 10 minutes or enjoy buying it from bots and scalpers. WOTC could literally kill the scalping scene for them overnight by just printing to demand but they'll never do that because it ruins the FOMO
Why is it that Dwarves and Trolls don't get used very much? They're both staples of fantasy.
>>96841119Lack of support.
>>96841099>format like PauperBruh Pauper is fun, but its also a very optimized format full of RDW and graveyard strats.
>>96840660Open hate is never good unless you're winning on the turn imo
>>96841117>White Angel Cat with Flying and Vigilance
>>96841125and because it's a constructed 60 card format played bo3 with a sideboard, people know that going in and aren't NEARLY as salty as they lose than the average EDH player is. Also nobody sperging out about being "unfairly targeted" in 1v1s
>>96841047You are sadly correct.While "Copy" is a word that gets thrown around and could mean spells in other situations.You are targeting a permanent, and using a Copy ability.Twinning specifically looks at "spells" ie "Cards that are cast through some method and are currently on the stack."This is why I've really hate using the phrase "spell" for years now.
>>96840660massive analysis paralysis, and they don't offer mana-fixing for the stolen cardsYou're just better off playing a captain ngathrod or something
>>96841099my edh lgs is 100% retired modern players, 100% supportive of brackets, and nobody spergs out
>>96841146>my edh lgs is 100% retired modern players, 100% supportive of brackets, and nobody spergs out>retired modern playersthe dream pod. people who've only played edh are literally the worst people to play magic with
how does someone get enjoyment out of doing the thing if they have to literally beg to let people do the thing?
>>96841143>While "Copy" is a word that gets thrown around and could mean spells in other situations.> copy it> you may cast the copyAIIIEEEEE
>>96841118Eh, I'll just stick to Chinese bootlegs for secret lair, I guess. Frankly I see little reason to ever buy real cards when the bootlegs are identical (except under a loupe) and only cost $2 a piece for any card you want.
>>96841164"bro please don't counterspell my combo" is the magic equivalent of pity sex
>already have 6 playmats>just ordered 2 more>only one of them is custom the rest are card artsthis is my guilty pleasure
>>96841199Best place for custom mats?
>>96840077One guy complained decks can now run offcolor lorwyn anthems, as if thats a good use
Playmats are a creation of reddit
>>96840119Scorpion God or Tor Wuaki the younger
>>96841128>AngelThat is clearly a God.
>>96841210idk friend got it for me
>>96841217I've seen some really nasty tables. Having a mat helps a ton.
>>96841217xd
>>96841119Dwarves were supplanted by goblins as a red tribe and trolls were associated with shroud and regenerate for a long time making it hard for them to be a proper tribe.
>>96841217Is reddit in the room with us right now?
What would you think of me if I busted this out?Simple?Clean?Unimaginative?Mill?
As a standard player I like the hybrid rule change since it feels WOTC had been trying to make hybrid both standard and commander playable but with the new rule change they will now only focus on being standard playable.
If creatures enter with +1/+1 counters from some effect, do triggers that care about power/toughness see those counters or do they only see base P/T?
>>96841322see the counters, though there are edge cases where a creature enters and then has counters put on it as part of one action. but generally a feral hydra being cast for x=4 will enter and give you a card draw from garruk's uprising.
>>96841304>still believing wotc can balance multiple formats, let alone oneeldrazi winter will always be my #1 proof that wotc doesn't look at their own cards
>>96841113>fast paced wam bam sac burnevery table should have at least one so nobody can just durdle around in a corner trying to build a locked down board state or grow out of control>My friend group would definitely not be bowled over by that listI wish mine were smarter. zero threat assessment>you attacked me to get my initiative? I will cast removal on your creature then counterattack you. oh whoops, the selesnya guy just put 16 more counters on his 20/20 angel and I have no blockers guess I'm dead lol
>didn't want my deck to be bracket 3 but want jin gitaxis and vorniclex>suddenly removed off GCThanks, Gavin
>>96841334My specific combination is Tribute of the World Tree (Whenever a creature etbs, draw a card if its power is 3 or more) and Arwen, Weaver of Hope (Creatures enter with additional +1/+1 counters based on Arwen's toughness)
>>96841337That's such an old card grandpa. Pick a more modern example from the last decade at least.
>>96841346godspeed, pubstompchad
>>96841262Instead of copying D&D's regeneration, Trolls should have been the anti-Nymph, dark and violent reflections of fey. With Nymphs you have several types. Naiads are freshwater. Dryads are forests. Oreads are mountains and grottoes. Oceanids are the ocean. You could do the same with trolls. Bog Troll, Cave Troll, etc. But what would be their 'thing' if not regeneration? I see a trolls presence being a blight to the land instead of a loving warden, like nymphs.
>>96841348youll get the card draw
>>96841355That's so hot. Thank you anon.
>>96841349
>>96841284looks fine for bracket 1
>>96841337That shit is my all time favorite land in my eldrazi deck.
>>96841218god damn that's some sexy arthe sounds fun, but I wonder how hard it would be to set him up. he effectively needs to survive a turn before you can start giving him deathtouch and kill shit. will need a lot of protection I guess. scorpion god sounds a lot easier to build.
>>96840063Y'shtola is a fucking mess but she has potential to be ridiculously busted with a cheap rebuild. Even a meme build like all 3+ manarocks is strong with her.
>>96841349Lurrus
>>96840401I think it's a good thing.
>>96840063They're all fine. Y'shtola wants to be rebuilt more than the other three, but they're all playable out of the box
>>96841117>ordering cards for edhYall niggas dont even draft?
>>96841479I don't draft because I'm not spending 25-40 dollars a week.
>>96841439>>96841466What the fuck were they thinking with her precon? All she really needs is a way to spam mana rocks and draw more cards to spam more mana rocks.
>>96841479>Yall niggas dont even draft?what, and be called a pig by partaking in mtg's biggest money making format?
I wonder how cheap this will get. Keeps going down. Might snatch it up if it gets low enough.
>>96841479i played draft til the only draft events became UB.
>>96841479No, I buy singles because I have enough draft chaff.
>>96841512you should insist amazing spider man should sell for 12 cents because it's printed on the card
>>96841537kek
>>96841512feels like a miss for spiderman to not be red and blue. with him being a super-genius scientist he fits izzet colors, and early spiderman was also famously hot headed and emotional, the whole reason uncle ben died was because he initially disregarded the whole WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY deal and he's driven by guilty to prevent that from happening to anyone else.
>>96841547Red does not fit Peter Parker at all. And white fits him very well.
>>96841483Lolwut?
>>96841547Red does suit him pretty well. Fundamentally, he decided to become a hero for very emotional personal reasons. It also explains why it's so easy for him to slip into Black when the Symbiote is on him.
>>96841479Anon this is commander, edh is long dead as is any semblance of throwing decks together by any other means than buying decks wholesale off of tcg player
>>96841547Yes but wotc only knows how to design 1 izzet card, and have just been printing different versions of it over and over for the last decade
>>96841591Not trueThey also printed ironman which is a self contained value engine :^)
>>96841584EDH died when brackets were made.
>>96841599Brackets aren't real. Just call your deck a seven. Everyone will get it.
>>96841570>Red does not fit Peter Parker at allread some actual spidey comics and not just raimi movies and mcu slop
>>96841599Newfag lmao
>>96841599edh died in 2011 when "commander" became an official wotc format and it stopped being Elder Dragon Highlander
>>96841036FF1 is more mtg than mtg is now post Aetherdrift
>>96841648SO true
what would commander be like without commander damage?
>>96841750voltron (not quite) dead
>>96841750Lower power tables would have a lifegain problem
>>96839922City of Brass could always be run in any deck, including Sen Triplets. WTF you talking about?
>>96840373Your mom should have drowned you
>>96841783Yes but it couldnt tap for green or red before the changeDumbassA shit change in my opinion but whatever
>>96841750Life gain and combo decks reign supreme
>win on turn 9 with neriv + bulk up + chandras ignition>45 minute game>’wow what was that a turn 5 win?’-azorious boardwiper>literally tapped 9 lands to do the win>pulls out his urza deck>just leaveWhy are people so fucking stupid. I was doing draft as well earlier this week
>>96841750he'd be a GC
>>96841839I had a goad player bitch and moan when I did nothing but remove his commander after he cursed/goaded attacks on me, I was 15, everyone was 40+
>cEDH Thoracle fag tries to thoracle combo>I cast Everybody lives>It becomes Everybody Laughs as the table laughs at the Thoracle fag for getting fucked>me when
>>96841800Yeah, and they should change it back to work that way. Is that what you've been acting like nobody would agree with you on this entire time?
>>96841893Just cause it has Thoracle doesn't mean its cEDH anon
>>96841921No anon, it was a cEDH Thoracle deck. The guy would only play cEDH and would play them against our less strong decks. This wasn't a rando pod.He just sucked ass at playing his decks. Because he just netdecked any cEDH deck he wanted and proxied it.
>>96841929That is lame then.
>>96841679>FF1's Destined cycle has to share cards with the worst Zendikar set and DnD slop, on top of the party mechanic being shit to begin withFeels bad man.
Feel so alone lads
>>96841950start going to your lgs and yelling at other players until you feel something
>>96841950Time for a Grunn deck fren
This is gonna be awesome in my GW human tribal deck.
>>96842069I mean sure, but it's not like giving things double-strike is hard in white to begin with nobody's gonna look at you funny for playing this, this could genuinely just be a regular white card and nobody would complain, hell it would probably have generic cost, it wouldn't just be 4W
What if they mess up the ruling and accidentally or hell even intentionally have phyrexian mana count as generic mana
>>96842069>four whitemeh. And double strike is certainly a white thing so it isn't out of color.
>>96842117It's perfectly at home in either monowhite or monored.
>>96842069These massive color pip hybrid cards have my noggin joggin for a mono color devotion deck. Seriously, every mono color must be getting 4+ new creatures with a shit load of colored pips. My greedy mono black hands are reaching for the Gary just imagining some of the new tools.
>>96842166which is honestly like 95% of the hybrid mana cards out there they're not going to break the game, most are barely usable as is
>>96839875>TQi just dont play edh with randoms anymore its playgroup or bust for me never really had that problem with other formats though
>>96842171It's not 95, but it's probably the majority at this point. Earlier hybrid mana costs were a bit inconsistent with treating it as "Something that could be mono X or Mono Y" but they made a more conscious decision to treat them like that at some point. That isn't to say they're ALL like that now, just that that that's the intention.And unironically the reason why a lot of hybrid cards are kinda unusable right now, at least in EDH, is because they currently have "Both" instead of "Either" as color identities and often times you can find a multicolored card that does what a hybrid card does, but better in the same colors.
I want to make a silver border deck, but am unsure what to pick. Thinking pic rel. What silver border commanders/cards do you think would be fun?
>>96841117At least it didn't get cancelled and refunded.
Finally got around to building Thantis thanks to Spider-Man. Actually pretty upset that there aren't more spiders in the set that are good for her.
>>96841262>Dwarves were supplanted by goblins as a red tribeThat's weird but I think you're right. I would think there would be more exploration they could do with dwarves that wouldn't be stepping on the toes of goblins. I wouldn't considering dwarfs swarming the board the way goblins do for instance. Or sacrificing each other easily and constantly. Feels like there should be some room for the two to exist.
>>96841547There's enough material to justify him being a lot of colors at some point or other. That the decided he could only be bant and the colors that make it up separately was dumb and limited them.
>>96842286Have you had time to play her yet? Creatures like this just scream everyone at the table focuses you down so I can't help but wonder how that plays out in person.
>>96842305Not yet, I'm still in the goldfishing phase to refine the deck to the point where it feels like the right power level. I think my usual playgroup will like her, usually anything that forces everyone to play differently than they normally do is seen as refreshing. I'm also trying to include some stuff that can be spun as group hug-ish to politic away the violence, as well as plenty of goad and fogs in case that doesn't work. Worst comes to worst I'll throw in a Glacial Chasm recursion package with some tutors to assemble it.
>>96842206It's actually 93-96% depending on how strict we're being.
>>96842348Shit, you actually crunched the numbers?Fair enough.
>>96842051OOH OOH AHH AHH
>>96841631>read some actual spidey comicsok Crim, take it easy.
>>96842289I think it could work, but defense isn't really the red playstyle. I think it could go Goblins are offensive, Dwarves are defensive. Goblins destroy, Dwarves create. Goblins are warriors, shamans, rogues. Dwarves are warriors, artificers, and soldiers. Goblins are about self-destruction if it also harms the enemy, Dwarves are careful and conservative with how they approach problems. Dwarves wouldn't have cards like Goblin Miners, where they kill themselves to destroy a wall, Dwarves are brave but they don't self-harm. The color is what makes dwarves weird to me. Some dwarfs we do have are white/red, I think that fits them better than just being red. They don't fit the 'vibe' of red, outside of living in mountains. They're white through and through. Law, order, community.
>>96842491Red DOES have some of those aspects, namely that's less a color of pure destruction (That's more black's thing) and more a color of change. THE color of change in fact. And change can be both creative or destructive in nature.
Went out today today and bought 5 beseech the queens for about 5-6 dollars out of a bulk bin just in case it turns into the new hot tutor that can go in literally anything. It's already jumped on tcg and climbing steadily
Any commander recommendations to build? Been pretty burned out of the game lately. Idk if I just haven't found "my commander" or if the game is dying.
>>96842642I'm building her currently, i think she's very cool and is kinda underrated. Would recommend.
>>96842642fuck it, tokenspam
>>96842642What do you like to play? What play style do you usually gravitate towards? I've been on a mono color focus this year and have been experimenting with a few myself. Been on red right now and am enjoying Ivora lately. She's about as direct as one could ask and maintains good consistency because her gimmick involves running all the draw discard you can fit and running people over with her.
>>96842607>t.
>>96840694>I dont even know what I'm talking aboutOk
>>96842898>unsubstantiated seetheYawn!
cant wait to play this in my boros deck.
>>96842828>MTG is dead, I'm leaving, I don't care what happens to it anymore>NO STOP PROFITING OFF IT REEEEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuaPO_roM7E>almost 1 hour video of chuds talking about glasses of urza in cedhWTF?
>>96842607I do think that a it's going to end up overhyped, people will end up trying it out, realize it's kinda ass outside decks that could already run it, and the price will go back down (Though still above what it was originally)Six mana for a conditional tutor is ROUGH
>>96843045I remember that Telepathy used to be a serious staple a long time ago, though I have no idea if it's still that way now.
>>96843045I mean, I get it. CEDH is strikingly similar to legacy/vintage, and they let you know if a specific individual can prevent you from comboing off that turn. And it's not like you don't have space for 'em in your deck.
>>96843045Seeing a dude's hand is fun, but seeing a dude's hand in a format where winning can be one combo away can be lifesaving I'm sure.
>>96843045Unironically the main driving force is how much of cEDH is people trying to politic for a draw. This and Telepathy makes it so if they don't have it you instantly shut them up.
>>96842607Im gonna inveeeeest
>>96840538Wow this card is so cool!
>>96840720Zamn, just spotted this in your list. This is great for my Baral and Kari can't believe I never saw this one before
>>96843110Yeah and glasses of Urza has been getting more play precisely because of that reason. It's funny how people complain about the role of table politics in casual EDH but it's much worse in cEDH.
>>96843045>>96843235Yet more proof that jewlotus dockside and crypt shouldnt have been bannedThe faster cedh is the less likely it becomes a drawfest
I basically cannot run any card which targets another player at all (spot removal , mill effects like Jasper Flint) heck even combat damage is dicey. My play group at the LGS is all full of vengeful retards who will hyper focus the first person to target them with anything at all. How to manage this?
>>96843269Maybe, but people were already realizing the importance of politics then already, they just weren't as open about it. Back then people were still trying to pretend that cEDH is a proper cardgame but then more and more stories of top cEDH players basically doing nothing but manipulating and bullying people to win and then people basically admitted that, as everyone already knew, cEDH is actually just a game about politicking.
>>96843275play combo like everyone else
things you are grateful of in mtg?I'll start, I'm grateful that:>crypt, dockside and jew lot is still banned and will never ever not be>etali is not banned and never ever will be
>>96843045I remember that anon a few threads ago who said he had a friend who plays the glasses in every deck, and will fetch them off Saga 100% of the time just to look at everybody's hands and send them on tilt.
>>96843306The only card you listed there that 100% should be banned is Dockside. Crypt is debatable, Lotus should come off the banlist asap
>>96843283Also correctCedh is pretty much a mexican standoff, so why prolong it any further? cedh will always be like classical chess where draws are just that much more likely to happen but it'll help a lot to get a winner when when more decks can pop off t1 more consistently
>>96843311Crypt should be bannedAll cards with Mox in the name should be blanket banned
>>96843311>Lotus should come offI agree. Unban Black Lotus. It's just a one-time burst of mana.
After years of extensive research, I think this guy looks like the most fun UB commander for me. Say something nice about him
>>96843312At this point the draw mentality is so ingrained that I don't think even speeding the format up again would help. One of the things that made me lose interest in cEDH was watching tables agree to draws after suicide pacts of negation stopping turn 2-3 combo attempts.
>>96843275Mass goad or Slicer/Alexios.
>>96843329I have a budget one. it's all edicts and makes a big board quick if not KoS
>>96840063Y'shtola is cute, made for waifu tribal deck.
This is a blue card
>>96843449The cardname is in red, therefore its a red card
>>96843465>>96843449Clearly Jeskai
>>96843275If your threat assessment is bad, you should be eliminated first.
>>96843449This is worse than the time WotC said monoW should get a token doubler.
You know sometimes I think the average person voicing their opinion online isn't completely retarded, then I hear opinions like "Banning Rhystic Study would completely kill midrange and render my $8000 cEDH deck worthless because there's no way to draw cards in sans red."
Do you really believe WotC is suddenly pushing for the rule change for hybrid mana cost because of the new Lorwyn set? These sets are designed months and years in advance. The cards are already printed. The Lorwyn commander decks with off-color hybrid cards are already printed. Which would mean that they don't care what we think about the change, they will just do it.
>>96843574They shouldn't care anyway because the only people opposed to the change are retarded anyway.
>>96843558Kill all cEDH players
>>96843574>Do you really believe WotC is suddenly pushing for the rule change for hybrid mana cost because of the new Lorwyn set?Its not an illogical assumption. The presence of new hybrid cards wpuld cause someone to think about this sort of thing
>>96843534So better than the time white got a token tripler.
>>96843604Yes. I feel the color pie breaking apart every time a monoW deck tries to make a bunch of tokens.
>>96843574I don't think they actually printed off-color hybrids since the Wither deck is the only deck where it would matter and all -1/-1 counters matter effects are in red, black and green meaning any good hybrid will have to be in those colors.
>>96843620Tokens are like the one thing that white does though
>>96843449>Red symbols in the cardyou could try reading it first, anon
>>96843627but the colors in the art, anon.
>>96843574I think the issue would come up either way. I do think there's a lot of internal pressure from WotC for this, but hybrid mana was already a lingering topic in EDH for a long time, and an entire set with hybrid mana as a major theme would have inevitably caused it to resurface.and well, we probably know who wears the pants here, given that vehicles got pushed through for EOE despite nobody asking for it, or really caring.
>>96843626Look at this card and tell me it belongs in monoW. You're supposed to need both colors! White to make tokens, and green to double them!
>>96843628....so?
>>96843638> Elspeth> Ojer Taq> Anointed Procession> Exalted Sunborn
>>96843574>>96843630Wotc is hungry for design space and hybrid gives that, it also makes business sense to allow more cards into the format; it's not a coincidence that gavin said in the most recent livestream he's pro unbansWith that said expect more cards being put as GCs (emrakul, prime time) and more powerful staples to be put to GCs (*cough* mana drain)
>>96843660the quest for novelty will slowly, as always erode the game
>>96843638that's not deathrite shaman
>>96843621These are the only off color hybrids worthy of being reprinted so it would be better to wait and make mono color variants rather than act impulsively. The more likely explanation is Lorwyn will have a lot of hybrids in popular tribes so people would be disappointed they can't play a w/u merfolk in their GU deck.
>finally getting a game in with some friends I haven't seen in a long time>2 of them play decks that won on turn 4 without possible interaction >even after discussing approximate power level and how we're gonna have fun playing together>they proceed to go "okay uhm anyway we gotta get going so ggs anyway"lol whatever man
>>96843735>without possible interaction
Have you ever had a commander last one full turn cycle to do something or is everyone living in a constant state of spot removal for anything that's not an ETB effect, hasted or immediately equipped with greaves or the sort?
Anyone have a miracle deck? I see there arent very many miracle cards. Objectively this would be the commander for it. I really like the idea of miracles.Maybe I will try putting a list together for her. I didnt want to rin another tri-color but I think this is really the way to go for it.
>>96843735>2 of them play decks that won on turn 4 without possible interaction>doesn't elaborate further>leaves after venting on /edhg/lol
>>96843754Lil niggamof
>>96843751>sisters of stone deathbeing durdly is one thing but the payoff isn't even that great
>>96843745the first guy was playing norin the wary, and he literally could not be targeted.All I could do was slow our deaths by forcing him to sacrifice an enchantment that decreased the damage we took every single turn from 6 to 3 dmg. I understand there are within the game things that COULD have helped us, but nothing we could realistically have been expected to use or do.>>968437612nd guy played krrik and combo'd off, lost and gained about 80 life and drew 70 or so cards until he found the "i gain life you lose life" and "you lose life I gain life" cards and played them, then we died. we removed as much of his board as we could, but we were tapped out without any more removal on hand.
>>96843771I HAVE NORIN AND IMPACT TREMORS. PREPARE TO LOSE, SCRUBS!
>>96843771>plays krrik>still uses sanguine-exquisitethat's bracket 4 gaming to a teethey don't seem to be the type of people to downgrade so you either enter the arms race with them or just let bygones be bygones i guess
>>96843771>No possible interaction>NorinYou can permanently exile him for 1 mana.
>>96843793
>>96843660They want to design around hybrid mana for 60c formats but the current color identity rules would make it so they can't design for both 60c formats and EDH at the same time. What they really want is to unburden themselves of that rule.
>>96843813I'm sorry you lost to Norin the Wary + Impact Tremors
>>96843769True but I've got a soft spot for thematically stealing creatures, like Ariette with her enchantments or Shelob returning stuff as food tokens like cocoons to snack on.
>>96843791yeah, I concluded (after seeing all of the damn cards he played in a single turn) that it was bracket 4, the rest of us were solid brackets 2 and a weak bracket 3. I let bygones be bygones since he's a very good guy otherwise, and the game was over "quickly" - only thing that rubbed me wrong was wrapping up after that win, like we couldn't just play 1 more normal games within the same bracket.>>96843793and I could technically have gone infinite turn 1 if I technically had the perfect hand for doing that, but as said that wasn't the case. >>96843823NTA but thank you. I am still applying the salve to my butthurt. >>96843778he topdecked sol ring turn 1 and it was just done by that point keknorin, then impact tremors, then Molten Echoes and we were fucked. removed Molten Echoes asap (all I had was a "your opponent sacrifice a creature or enchantment" removal spell so I couldn't target impact tremors)
>want to build a new deck>have to spend at least a hundred bucks just on lands Fuuuuck just unlimit command tower or something this doesn't improve the game in any way
>>96843866Basic lands enter untapped(and there are many cheap slightly suboptimal nonbasic lands, too)
>>96843866>have to spend at least a hundred bucks just on landsstick with bracket 2, you don't need fetches and shocks in your nongreen tricolor deck
>>96843866Maybe dont build 5 color sloppa
>>96843866Lands cost as much as any other card which is free because you should be proxying them >b-b-b-but I must support JOTC and fund the next 4 years of marvel sets, it's my duty!!
>>96843866>I want to build a deck that needs X colors>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO BUILD A LANDBASE TO MAKE X COLORS?????What is it with you fags who hate the restrictions of a format? >>96843890>HUUR PROXYkill self immediately
I... MUST... PAYPIG... FOR... BIG COMPANY...
>>96843890proxyfag brainlets never realize this but black core level proxies (the only type of proxies worth talking about) are worth just as much as the average bracket 2 power level card which makes proxying meaningless
Remember me?
>>96843960Of course I do, just placed you in a Human semi-tribal deck and saw you in play just the other night :)
>>96843958Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy is $0.20?
>hybrid mana cards skyrocketing in price and being sold out everywhere >even the shit commons this fucking community needs culling and wotc employee's who came up with this change just so can they justify their employment need to be fired, preferably from a cannon.
Such a huge miss this guy is not in boros. I always imagined back then how I can build some God of War inspired commander with Theros cards. Now we get this boring mono red goad commander that is not even very good. What is some secret tech at least?
>>96843866>wanted to build a 5c deck once>ended up having every fetch, shock, triome, bond, and check>I am now permanently set for life in terms of landbaseGetting lands and the "it goes in every deck" cards like TOR, Mana Vault, and so on is a bitch, but it pays off in the end due to their universal applicability. Or just do the smart thing and proxy/bootleg them. No one will know if you get good fakes and double sleeve them.>>96843958You should be proxying the big stuff, like full art foil fetches and shocks. This coincidentally also helps cover up the issue between black and blue core from a light test.
>>96843930If you'd rather not play at all than proxy the cards JOTC doesn't think you should have then don't play the game, it's clearly not for you
>>96843988Just give it a couple years and you can play white cards in it.
>>96843999I just acquire the cards I want, anon.
>>96843958Sorry anon but I have actual investments and don't need to turn my failing trading card game into my bank.
>>96843990>You should be proxying the big stuff, like full art foil fetches and shocksthat's just a stone's throw away from proxying cradle, true duals, LED, etc. and at that point what's stopping you from proxying full cedh?proxyfags yet again out themselves as lacking self-control and are just cedh players living in denial
>>96843988You can use dad of war for that
>>96844014I accept your weasel worded concession
>>96844024>my gay sonnah
>>96844020NO SHUT UP. MY GAMING INVESTMENT IS STABLE. PAYPIG FOR THE BIG COMPANY.
>>96844020>I have actual investmentsgood for you>i won't buy expensive cardboardthat's fine too, just know that mtg is a luxury hobby and was never and will never be just "game pieces"we'll just give you the side eye like any other hoe that rock fake ysl bags, it's that simple really
>>96844037he likes black women anon
>>96841119same as orcs and halflings and gnomesfor whatever reasonat least it's not 100% generic lotr/dnd fantasy, we have merfolk being one of the big tribes for instance
>>96844038>paying loads of money for pixelsthat's even worse than paying loads of money for cardboard nglat least you can still play card games in a nuclear apocalypse
>>96844029>being able to buy cards is a concessionAnon, are you okay?
>>96844022Because paying thousands for cardboard is gay. You can bootleg/proxy all the good stuff and still not play cedh.
>>96844045play the game. he's as zesty as freddie mercury
>>96841199i only have 1 playmat because i only play 1 game of edh at a time
>>96843987this.whats next? no colour restrictions in EDH? Just play w/e you enjoy?
>>96844061but anon I did
>>96844067I need like 5 playmats for my token deck
>>96844067same, and its plain black.i seriously cringe when i see grown ass "men" using playmats featuring anime girls and shit like that.
>>96844071All legendary creatures errata'd to have Partner when played in an EDH format
>>96844079ye, mine is plain orange
Damn apparently Duskmourn was the set for enchantments and enchantment accessories
>>96844071Yes and they'll couch it in alphabetslop.>Actually color restrictions are BAD and DISCRIMINATORY and make people SAD and CRY
>>96844059>i have to win so badly i will proxy all the goodstuff even though it's not needed in bracket 2 power levelnow THAT'S super gay
>>96844042>oh no some loser who doesn't know how to manage his money is going to think less of me for being able to manage my money instead of blowing it on game pieces!I hope, somehow, I'll find a way to live with myself...
>>96841199I realised quickly how easy it is to get different dice, playmats etc, so I am doing my very best to not get crazy with it.I just have 1 basic black (orange rims) mat, 1 stylised mat for mtg, 1 yugioh mat because it featured that cute magician girl (I don't play yugioh) and 1 star wars unlimited mat because it looks fucking cool[/spoiler]If I was crazy rich and had the space, I would have a minor library of playmats, looking like an antique chinese library with shelves of scrolls to be unrolled and played upon depending on what deck I was playing... same thing with different colours of dice, and sleeves of course. >>96840119just play Lord of Pain and punish them for each big spell. bonus points for a ton of goading (Kardur, my beloved) so they don't just automatically come for you. I like to also psychologically make them averse to killing me off by reminding them that if I'm the only person left at the end I have to choose myself as "other target player" whenever an opponent plays a spell. Certainly has done wonders to shorten down boring control games in my pods, and without being that "asshole" who makes games *too* short. Not to mention you can include THIS GUY.
So now that the hybrid mana problem has been solved, when are we going to start letting playable silver border cards into decks?
>>96844102>kardurhe's in all my rakdos decks, no exceptionlord of pain definitely sounds funny
>>96844100>i'm not buying the genuine article? fuck how can people think less of me?!congrats you've just uncovered the profit model of the luxury business>your ignorance of this fact makes me doubt the existence of your "investments" btw kek
>Magic is a luxury hobby
>>96844128>magic is game pieces
>all these anons talking about their investmentsI'm so fucking broke bros...
>>96844107half mana when?
Ngl Enchanted Evening in mono U sounds kinda kino
>>96843312This is why I've made a deck that cuts out the middleman and draws the game asap. Nothing but 104.4 combos, stuffy doll targeting me + pariah type shit. I will teach them, one game at a time, of their own delusion.
>no you don't have heckin investments if you don't consoom meme luxury products!
>>96843751yeah retards love to use swords at the hint they might have to think about threat assessment. "OH I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT DOES BETTER PUT US BOTH DOWN A CARD!"
>>96844211tell us what you're investing in so that we can show you how it ultimately relies on consoomers to keep it going
>>96844142Just put a bit of money aside each payday anon. You'll make it.
>>96844024Nah, nu soi of war completely obliterated the ancient greek era Kratos. I'm kind of surprised they even made a separate secret lair for it, albeit lame as fuck.
>>96844222>>96844042>so we can show you>we'll just give you the side eyeNah I'm not having an extended conversation about my investments with some goal post moving paypig trying to set up gotchaisms while ignoring the original discussion, who also uses weasel language to make up some kind of fake group consensus as if anyone but (You) agrees with or thinks like (You) do. It's real easy to spot dishonest time wasting brainlets who don't intend to have an actual conversation or debate a mile away so have yourself a good day fella but I'm movin' on.
>>96844295note /edhg/ how i never said the proxyfag can't proxy to his heart's content, but the proxyfag nevertheless is so desperate for validation
>>96844295t. Invested in Enron
>>96844301Proxyfags are so desperate for validation it's pathetic.
>>96844295this shit probably is better than rule of law because it means the retard at the table won't unleash the izzet player just so he can cast llanowar elves and craw wurm on the same turn.
>>96843958I play my 5 cent proxies at the LGS and no one cares so im afraid you are very wrong.
>>96843751Yeah, several times even. It looks like my group has started running less and less removal these days and everything just stays on board until someone draws a board wipe or the one or two removal pieces. I end up being the main guy with removal now a days.
>>96844383>you're the product for the actual paying customers that keep the lgs afloat btw>also inb4 your lgs a glorified cafe for nerds selling marked up food and drinks
>>96843045Is there a benefit to using them over telepathy?
>>96843866Just play mono color. That way you only end up spending about five dollars on getting the specific basics you want.
>>96844398It's much easier to tutor a 1-mana artifact than a 1-mana enchantmentUrza's saga and trinket mage will both do it and those cards are fantastic in almost any deck
>>96844398Artifact, doesn't need Blue, etc.
>>96843960Yeah, he's awesome in Six. That Yavimaya Elder adds the lands to hand is so useful in that deck.
>>96843988I'd have thought an argument could be made for rakdos as well.
>>96843866Proxy or do without.
>>96844398doesn't accidentally punt win to a combo player who sees he only has to worry about one potential hand of disruption. doesn't incentivize three players to remove it instead of potentially just one. glasses is a crime.
>>96844398Has anyone used revelation.?
>>96843988>boringyou just have shit taste, anon
>>96844407>>96844408would it be worth having both in a deck that did play blue?
>>96844446I have. The effect is good but it can accidentally punt wins and a lot of players are autitistic babies who will legit remove it just because they find having their cards on the table instead of in their hand where they can stim annoying.
>>96844454Depends on how much your deck values hand knowledgeIf you've got combo lines and you need to somewhat reliably find out if they have it, sureGlasses, Telepathy, Urza's Saga, Trinket Mage and that's effectively 4 copies of the effect already for minimal investment.
>>96844020Larp post. No one who actually has money scoffs at a legal avenue for making money.
>>96844439>doesn't accidentally punt win to a combo player who sees he only has to worry about one potential hand of disruptionThis is the main reason, you want to be the only one with information.
Hey I tried building my first landfall deck, can you guys pls give me a quick review and if you'd change anything before i order the rest of the cards?https://moxfield.com/decks/Uw9H7PYqjkaCPIkZNxmNSQI know it's still missing some the staples like Azusa but i feel like she's made somewhat redundant by the commander and i don't really wanna buy more expensive cards rn.
>>96844393What on earth are you talking about? Lgs owner loves me I like to gamble on sealed and trade in to the store and I proxy big stuff I dont want to buy. And the LGS literally only exists for MTG.
Evens my next deck is HashatonOdds AminatouDubs something from ATLA
>>96844516Odds are u r a faget lmao
>>96843960Gone the way of solemn simulcrum
>>96844521lmao gotem
>>96844521Welp looks like Im making my boy Hashie
>>96843045>>96844398do it wotcit's long overdue
>>96844449Yes, it's a one dimensional goad deck. Could have been boros, rakdos or mardu, either of these would have fit Kratos.
>>96844566It doesnt look like goad to me
>>96844503>i never paypig on edh pieces!!>draft and sealed?! give me that draft chaff sloppa!!kekw
Will phyrexian mana be allowed next after they go through with the hybrid chanes?
>>96844624gavin said no changed to phyrexian mana in the recent livestream
>>96844621>kekwYes twitch zoomie gambling and draft is fun and supporting local businesses you like is good. Not sure what you think youre arguing here exactly
>>96844642But why not? It's the exact same logic. Dismember showed up in decks that were very much not black during its time in standard.
>>96844651>supporting local business by buying real edh cards?! paypig just proxy the shit out of that!!>supporting local business by buying draft and sealed?! give me the sloppa i'll go to the shop every damn week!!>what the hell is cube?!proxyfags once again btfo
>>96844660watch the livestream so you can hear gavin's reasoning, it's in the Q&A part>it's already a hint that hybrid cards like flame javlin won't be usable by colorless decks
Anyone please?>>96844501
I'd just like to inject myself into this argument and say I have NEVER given WOTC a dime. All of my cards are either fakes or bought off the secondary market. I also do not support my LGS and instead buy everything online.
>>96844699This + i sell fake cards on tcgplayer
>>96844565This card would be played in every format because it no longer targets.
>>96844681you absolutely do not need bowmasters and citadel
>>96844740Yeah but i already had bowmaster in my binder and Citadel is like 4€
>>96844728>god forbid discard is playable again
>>96844681landslop.dek what even need be saidother anon is right that bowmasters are fairly pointless in your deck, although citadel is good everywhereaura shards would be a better GC than bowmasters
>>96844665Who and how were they btfo? I support them by buying sealed and giving them hot cards at 70% which i use to buy more sealed. And yes support for a fun experience makes sense.I ask again, what point do you think you are arguing here?
>>96844769So you think it'll overall be functional tho? But alright maybe i'll replace bowmasters later.
>>96844681you're running hoof and you're in white so might as well run the other hoof
>>96844812this is called craterhorse btw
>>96844804anyone arguing that people buying real edh cards are paypigs while at the same time are fine buying sealed product every week suffer from severe mental disabilities
>>96844812Ohhh i had no idea that existed, i do want that
>>96844832don't forget white's other haymakers
>>96844806It'll function for sureIt's lacking a few of the really explosive lands cards like aftermath analyst and world shaper and lumra, but you'd want a bit more self-mill if you were going to use those anywayThe high end of power in lands decks comes from abusing graveyard recursion.
>>96844854Yeah I really want her too, just a bit expensive for me right now sadly.Maybe next month i'll pick her up.>>96844858That's good to hear. I'll screenshot your post to remember the cards you've mentioned and then i'll get them at a later point i think!
I made a grixis Kefka wheel deck and I don’t find anything else fun to play. My pod fucking hates me and tries to burst me down each game but it just adds to the fun. They hate this stupid fucking clown so much and I just don’t enjoy playing any other way now.Please send help
>>96844895>I made a grixis Kefka wheel deck
>>96844748>God forbid literally the least-enjoyable, least skilled strategy in the history of card games become a premier strategy
>>96844821I never made any such arguments anon. In response to someone saying something along the lines of the only worthwhile proxies are expensive ones I relayed the information of my experience, cheap ones are just fine. So again, what point do you think youre arguing here? Or has your intention this entire time been to just make a fool of yourself
so I ordered cards for my new deck for about 80€ and then I ordered fetchland and shock land proxies because I hate spending money on a mana base.am I a cheater?? I just want to have fun playing the game without having to spend an enormous amount on lands ;_;
>>96844919>discard is the least skilled start in the history of card gameshow new and how casual?https://articles.starcitygames.com/articles/thoughtseize-you/
i stopped chasing new cards and realized how little of a difference it actually makes, if your deck wants to do something it has the options already. the pool is just so saturated because they're not creating new archetypes.
>>96844930>cheap proxies exist anon>get told why they're cheap - because he's a cash cow for other avenues of monetization, in this case sealed product>ok i buy draft sloppa but what does that have to do with me hating on edh players buying real cards?>stop judging me for buying fakes!!!yet another proxyfag demanding validation i see, more at 11
>>96844937I'm about to proxy lands for my next deck too but I'll just print them myself and just ask people if they mind temporary land proxies.If you don't tell people it is a bit sketchy but most people don't mind if you just ask.
>>96844937You can make funcitonal decks without shocks and fetches if you aren't retarded.
>>96844930anon you're talking to our resident underageb& retardif you see a kekw in /edhg/ you should immediately ignore everything that person says
>>96844938>Yeah this strategy ends up banned every time it becomes viable in any card game but surely this time hand control will make for a fun, skill-intensive meta
>>96844957illucia was an extremely fun deck
>>96844962Aggro without its two largest drawbacks was only fun if you were the one playing it.
>>96844946The only part of this that was said is the very first one>>96844956Its fun to let people embarrass themselves.
>>96844660Because they consider phyrexian mana to be a mistake.
>>96844957>oh no my rube goldberg deck folds to discard!>w8 goodstuff.dec beats discard? fuck that i'll never play good cards!i see you're a filthy casualoh well, can't be helped
>>96844983>Strategy punishes creative deckbuilding and rewards goodslop pilesHmm I wonder why even game designers don't like this...
>>96844983>Yes, please run generic goodstuff to counter discard.t.
>>96844974you seem very upset to be called out for being a paypig for your lgs though lmao
>>96844957cards that just give you as many cards as you lost are fine (is that a "wheel" effect? like when you discard 3 cards and draw 3 cards?)losing what you were trying to hold on to or saving might be suboptimal, but at least you're given an option and a chance. discard is just plain boring, letting you sit and wait with nothing but your topdeck.
>>96844991is it really that creative if a stranger can see your hand and immediately identify the crucial pieces. you wouldn't happen to just be copying well known combo lines would you?
>>96844991>yes yes my creative deck must have no counters or weaknesses whatsoever
>>96844895Might as well play Archenemy.
>>96845006When you get handripped, all the decision-making goes to the person doing the handrip because they have information on your entire hand + take the best option. There's functionally no agency for the person on the receiving end because they're in a far worse position for no tradeoff.
>>96845014>Yes I want to punish players for trying to do anything but play 5c goodslop>Damn why has commander's entire format identity eroded? Must be the hybrid mana.
>>96845022>they're in a far worse position for no tradeoff.technically not trueit's the discard player who's down because he spent mana while you didn't, which is unlike counterspells and removal where both players spent manaonly noncasuals understand this
>>96845022I don't mean where they can use your stuff, just where you are forced to discard (but also draw cards). from all discard stuff, that's the only one I "condone" mentally.
>>96845030The discard player is choosing the option they take away + gaining hand information. They are effectively trading the worst card in their hand and 1 mana for the best card in your hand. If it wasn't an insanely good effect it wouldn't be run 4x in every Legacy deck with black.
>>96845043>he forgot brainstorm is a 4x in legacydiscard isn't the broken strat you think it is, calm down
>>96845027>hybrid mana change good autist is also discard bad autistevery retard really IS the same person
>>96845066Thoughtseize alone is pretty much the upper limit for how strong discard can be in Magic (and even then, Thoughtseize was a very controversial card when it released), and you would really be pushing the envelope making it even stronger to give it a push to Commander where it now reveals 3x information.
>>96845078man look at me pushing the envelopenot like wotc has been doing that since 2019
>>96845078>and you would really be pushing the envelope making it even stronger to give it a push to Commander where it now reveals 3x informationthoughtseize is extremely less powerful in commander, you're putting yourself and an opponent down one card versus two opponents unaffected and are only revealing 7 out of 21 cards in opponent hands. making it 3x is just making it as powerful as 1v1 (still down 1 mana versus opponents, but whatever).
>>96845003I dont think im coming across as upset at all anon. I enjoy supporting businesses i like using, and I enjoy paying in in ways that are the most fun for me.
>>96845013>land>land>interaction>interaction>interesting card ive never seen before>generic support pieceYeah must be tough to tell such things! Honestly it seems like youre a genuinely terrible player and are just picking fights so you can delude yourself otherwise.
>>96845078>where it now reveals 3x information.thoughtseize is "target" player reveals his hand, it's not 3x in commander.fags whining about cards they literally have never read or played just because DUDE I PLAYED HEARTHSTONE MAN DISCARD WAS BROOOOKEN THERE is peak retardkino
>>96845118"ohhh my deck's so creative and interesting">has very minor deviation from the norm
>>96845132Yes that is what makes things interesting anon :) putting things in greentext doesnt stop them from beating your position. You just do the legwork for us.
>>96845160>lose games because your deck sucks>get no sympathy from people online (me) because your "creativity" isn't very impressivemust suck
New player here, started with Final Fantasy and went all in, bought all 4 precons and a FF play booster box.Was the play booster box a waste of money since I've ended up mostly playing commander? I've played about 30 games and I'm still quite happy just swapping between my unmodified precon decks so far, should I just ignore the boosters when the next set that strikes my fancy is released?
>>96844937>am I a cheater??Absolutely. Proxies are not legal.
>>96845186>should I just ignore the boosters when the next set that strikes my fancy is released?Pretty much what most people do unless you're SUPER into a ton of the set's cards. I haven't bought any boosters in like 12 years, I only buy the random singles that would upgrade my current decks/be a part of a list of a new deck
>>96845125>Go from revealing 1 hand to revealing 3 hands>This is somehow not more informationYeah I'm sure YGO, Pokemon, Lorcana, Hearthstone, and Magic itself were all wrong though and discard can't be a problem if it goes 1:1.
>>96845181Why would i want sympathy from you? Why would that suck? Do you define your life by how nameless faceless people on the internet view you? Grim. Please keep on digging.
>>96845231Im sorry anon. I hope you get better decks / luck in the future
>>96844895Literal Joker moment
>>96845252It is smart you stopped making silly assumptions. This was a much better avenue for you to go down. It allows you to defend your crumbling ego while still appearing smug! Well done sport.
>>96844937Proxies are based. But /edhg/ hates proxies because this is CONSOOM general
>>96845298Thanks!
If I played EDH in paper I'd proxy. Unless it was my favorite deck evar or something.
I hate this general so much.
>>96845186Buying boosters is largely a waste unless you plan on using the boosters themselves as a game piece (draft, sealed, etc)You generally just want to buy singles, as it will always be a better monetary choice than buying packs.That said, you have a booster box, you may as well use it. Even if you play largely commander, you can still find a use for them and the cards within. Look through your cards, see if there are any legendaries in there that catch your fancy, and try to use the box to make a commander deck. You may need to buy some singles anyways to fill it out for stuff like lands and staples like sol ring and such, but you should be able to make something out of it. That and you can trade cards in and out of your precons with stuff you got in them.
>>96845311We just hate awful proxies hereIf i can tell your proxy is a proxy inside a sleeve you're doing it wrong and we WILL call you a poorfag
>>96845186>bought all 4 precons and a FF play booster box.Baaaaaait
>>96845336be the change you want to see in the world microdickedtrannyfaggotpedofucktard
>>96845111Cool.I enjoy supporting businesses i like using, and I enjoy paying in in ways that are the most fun for me (in my case, buying real edh cards).You're not going to kvetch about this riiiight?
>>96845399Classic poopdickschizo post.
>>96845420You love that meme so much don’t you?
>>96845450
>>96845464Yeah I know what the fucking origin is, in saying you post it literally every time someone says something you don’t agree with
>bald>beard>baseball cap (possibly backwards)>room full of Marvel crapThe short form Magic influencer phenotype
>>96845450Are you the guy who keeps accusing everyone who uses a meme as being the same person? You've done it over phrases and reaction images now. Are you autistic?
>he's doing it again
>>96845494It's incredibly amusing popping in here once every few weeks, post a reaction image to some bullshit, and have him link some archive posts of random people over the years that I'm absolutely not
>>96845402No why would I care? The only person "kvetching" is you and that other guy (who totally isnt you).
>>96845199Thanks anon>>96845385Thank you anon I'll give deckbuilding a try, though it is a bit intimidating.>>96845397Is that so?
>>96845494>>96845507Why are you so obsessed with obfuscating your post patterns? You could just choose to post differently instead of posting the exact same things all the time and then calling people who notice it schizo
>>96845533>I'll give deckbuilding a try, though it is a bit intimidating.It is at first, especially when you don't know the resources to do so. scryfall the database with every card in the game with a powerful search feature and edhrec is great at showing what other people run in decks
>>96845533>already has a ViviSlap that boy in as your izzet commander and laugh as he gives you infinite mana.
>>96845563
>>96845563lol. lmao, even
>>96845533>>96845568Literally just go to edhrec, pick your commander, and slap in the top recommendations based on your budget. You can fine tune from there if you want.
>>96845464I miss when more schizos used tripcodes because then there's a chance they'd get some other schizo obsessed with them to the point where they might get scared and leave the website. Anyone here still remember The Philmarilion?
Which recent sets have the best value pull rates?Probably FF right?
>>96845648FF in general. EoE has ancient tomb if you're into that.
I recently tried my friend's Hylda, and the massive amount of interaction you get was pretty fun. You don't just tap single creatures, half of the kit was tapping multiple creatures every turn. What are some straight forward mechanics/commanders like this in other colors? I know about Hapatra, but that's it.
>>96845708
>>96845648For collectors FF. For play/set i like brothers war, eldraine, nuixalan and bloomburrow. I suspect EOE is great due to its print run being abysmal and the cards actually being in decent demand.
>>96845533for your first steps into deckbuilding, just google "(name of commander) deck list" and look what others are using, then find some different lists and compare them and choose what you wanna include in yours.you might make some bad calls, and that'll appear once you play the deck. then you can see that you included too little card draw, too little interaction, too many lands et.c. and adjust. that's a fun part of deckbuilding, feeling the deck improve and become better.
>>96845717>4cI prefer to not go above 2 colors, 3+ is just a headache to me
>>96845760>googleIshygddt
>>96845648FF probably, but EoE has surprisingly good value. I also suspect that Foundations Jumpstart boosters have really good value right now and there's not a lot of people opening them.
>>96840119Kroxa
>>96845774The problem is Foundations doesn't have much for big chase cards.
>>96845819Scythecat Cub and Rev go for quite a bit.
>>96845837Rev?
>>96843878basics are not free
>>96845837>$38Small time. Call me when it's a $200+ card.
>>96845857Rev, Semen Extractor>>96845863Ok Mr. Moneybags.
>>96845870Oh i was looking at the regular Foundations set
>theftslop
>>96845533>Is that so?
>>96845885>he doesn't like stealing everyone's shit
>>96845861>move to new town>basics are in fact freeI can’t believe half of /edhg/ had a fucking meltdown over this
>>96845861in comparison to "just my lands cost 1000 bucks" they're nearly free. >>96845870looks like she would do well in a yuriko deck
>>96845908No, because I’m not a tranny so I don’t derive pleasure for violating the boundaries of others
>>96843638That will be going into my Polukranos reborn deck, thanks.
I think Terra is overall stronger in the cz than Celes.
>>96845914just let me RAAAPE
>>96845914>my boundaries mean no one can touch my shit>play a game where stealing your shit is a good or well-splashed archetypeMental illness
>>96845863$200 cards don't happen anymore.
>>96845922Basics anon was right and the fact that so many people pretended not to understand or refused to listen to the situation as he told Otis exactly why these threads constantly go to shit. Too many bored anons just wanting to take the dumbest position possible to entertain themselves . Happened with hybrid mana ITT
>>96845953No one plays theft in Commander without building around it as a deck theme, it’s not splashed at all. Youre thinking of Standard where theft is often the best removal in a set
>>96845979Ok, basics melty-kun
>>96845989this is the closest i can think of a splashable theft card that works beyond just theft
>>96845922fucking classic lol
>>96837277>just a memeIt makes complete sense to me. The design team's rules are that hybrid cards are supposed to do things the color pie allows either cost to go while gold cards are supposed to do things neither cost could do alone.If you run hybrid cards that only partially meat your commander's color identity the effects of those cards are still within the portion of the color pie you should have access to.In >>96837263's example, something the color pie allows for generic mana is doing awkward effects at a bad rate.
>>96844681Pic related + brokers hideout, carbaretti courtyard, maestros theater, obscure storefront, riveteers outlook
>>96845989>no one does this>nevermind there is a theft card so fucking good it became a game changer just to stop it from going in every deck
>>96846056according to the rules of the game merfolk of the depths is a green/blue multicolored card and can be red elemental blasted, even if it was cast for green mana. It does not belong in a monoblue deck. Also, the real issue isn't this random dogshit card you posted to downplay the impact of the change, but all of the pushed generic slopcards that WOTC is going to put in lorwyn. They're doing this to sell you more cards, not because they think it'll make the format better
Sam's Club started selling prepackaged bundle things that come with a Duskmourn, EOE, and foundation play booster, some shit promo, and a Duskmourn commander deck for 50. In case anyone wants to search Sam's Clubs for Endless Punishment.
>>96846060they already removed expropriatewe'll just have to wait next year for *chuckles* coalition victory to be removed from the gc list
>>96845989Except that time they reprinted dauthi voidwalker in a precon not focusing on stealing..
>>96846073>They're doing this to sell you more cards, not because they think it'll make the format betterWhen has that ever not been the case?
>>96846097how is this relevant? theft is good and gets splashed
>>96845989>>96846048Tonnes of decks with access to red or red/green will randomly toss in either or both of the Etalis, especially if they're decks that care about casting from exile.
>>96845922>>96845979>he's back>he's still defending himselflmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>96846115>>96846133if you guys count casting people's cards from their libraries as theft then ok i guessi've always thought of theft as taking something already known on the battlefield is all
>>96845922He was always right
>>96845922>22basic lands are basic rights
>think I found the perfect commander for what I want to build next>missing a crucial color for the mechanicFUCK
>>96845708How about these?
>>96846242you can still cook up something nice with her
>>96846274tell me about scorpion god, how does he like to win?>>96846282definitely, with my retarded friends, she's effectively a draw 3 every turn commander, but I absolutely need red for what I want to do
>>96845914>don’t derive pleasure for violating the boundaries of othersbro it's a pvp card game lmao do you consider getting counterspelled or board wipes a "violation of boundaries" too? Is anything that stops you from playing solitaire to combo off a "violation of boundaries"? Holy fuck I'm half convinced this is a straw man shit post but I've seen actual edh players with this view so it might be real AIIIIIEEEE IS THAT AN AGGRO DECK TURNING CREATURES SIDEWAYS TO HIT MY FACE? NOOOO MY BOUNDARIES PLEASE LET ME BE GREEDY AND INTERACTIVE YOU'RE VIOLATING MY RIGHTS!!!!!!
>>96846274>Koma>interactionit's a borderline voltron where the only interaction you need is spells that protects Koma or your board, blue counterspells and green "make hexproof/indestructible" It's one of my favourite decks because bluegreen ramp into pumping out big spells is fun (I don't like landfall and really don't like general blue fuckery with other players, just the card draw + protection aspect it grants me)
>>96846073>according to the rules of the game merfolk of the depths is a green/blue multicolored card and can be red elemental blasted, even if it was cast for green mana. It does not belong in a monoblue deckAccording to the rules of the game, Kenrith is a mono-white permanent who cannot be Null Elemental Blasted despite being a WUBRG five color slop commander.According to the rules of the game, you can play Felonious Rage which generates blue and white multicolored permanents that CAN be null elemental blasted in a mono-red deck
Anyone have any fun ideas for a red/white focused warrior OR samurai OR equipment deck?
>>96846297You aggro in with your creatures and you use blood artist effects to benefit of the death triggers..
>>96846356- not sure if fun, even the 'theme' is held together by stringshttps://moxfield.com/decks/9Ce23l_Pe0OagE4peKcO8g
>>96845914>>96845885Buddy was foaming at the mouth just hoping someone would bite so he could drop the same talking point he does 5 times a thread.
>>96846056>a bunch of bullshit that ignores part of what made this format uniqueYAWN. If it makes sense youre a retard at best.
>>96843793>stifle norinWhat? Casting stifle, just puts another norin trigger on the stack.
>>96846356not your colors, but certainly your guy
>>96846429You stifle the delayed trigger to return him to the battlefield.
>>96846445didn't realize it was a delayed trigger.
>>96846443>reasonable mana cost for his stats>does something unique and funEXCELLENT
>>96846537>>96846537
>>96846443Shit like this is why void mirror goes in every deck>prevents the free removal spells which are a pox on the format>sometimes just hoses someones commander
>>96846357can you mix it up with edicts, or are they counterproductive for his style?
