Goth robot gf edition>/40kg/ Community Linkhttps://rentry.org/40k-General>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/>Previous thread:>>97126130>Thread question:What is the best way to introduce the hobby to a new player.
>>97130140>What is the best way to introduce the hobby to a new player.Via high impact sexual violence
>>97130140>What is the best way to introduce the hobby to a new player.show them cool models
There's a hell of a lot of samefagging going on in this thread already. I sure hope you're not one of them.
>>97130153Loser bottoms + losing intentionally 10 times = new warhammer friend
>>97130140We had some players move from GW’s easiest game with vaguely similar mechanics (Warcry) to 40k. I don’t know if it’s the best way though. When it comes to pure model hobbying, walk in tutorials are probably easier.
>>97130156>Pic unrelated
>>97130156God these are kino.
>>97130157What does that even mean
>>97130167Samefag
Happy to see nobody fell for your secret santa scam, carnac. You seem to be all alone again here.
>>97130140I like orks :D
>>97130158>Loser bottomsFuck you. I though this was an actual thing when I played my first game. This rule sucks.
Someone told me Yarrick is dead when did they kill him off and why?
>>97130189An anon already received his gift but okay
>>97130140>>97126130>>97121166>>97116988
Thoughts about the top 3 best selling boxes of 2025?
>>97130222Those copies sold numbers don't make any sense with that ranking system
>>97130222It's just what people report to the guy, not necessarily GW's sales data. I assume his audience knows a bit more than an average GW shop-goer so not sure if it reflects anything.
>>97130220
Flirting with the idea of a highly-fluffy proxy list for a Tzeentch warband using Shadow Legion rules, where Be'lakor would be the FW Lord of Change (same size). Basically, two LoC as anti-tank, most of the psyker leaders I can get, every daemon gets the -1 to hit protection and every CSM unit gets deep strike.Thoughts?
>>97130140>What is the best way to introduce the hobby to a new player.Approach group of girls. Compliment one girl's nails (or multiple, if they have nicely painted ones). Ask if it's painted, airbrushed... explain that you enjoy painting and airbrushing too. But not nails, models. No, not like bodypainting, you have plastic models. Show her your pictures, ideally on instagram. Ask her if she wants to paint with you. No push, she knows your instagram. In 90% of situations you get contacted not by her but by one of the girls from the group, who find your Death Guard or Tyranids models nice and would be interested in painting jam. If you mean hobby as playing, it's difficult. Not many of the girls that want to paint would want to play, sadly, no success here.
What are you working on? Post models and wips
>>97130274
Instead of painting my models I installed Rogue Trader. Get fucked.
>>97130318>>>/v/
>>97130318Gay
We've got Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Emperor's Children, or Harlequins detachment up today.Place your bets.
>>97130339Will the Court of the Phoenician save Fulgrim and non autistic EC players from a 30% win rate?
>>97130339Why. Just wait. It's 4 hours away. Also>discord screenshot
>>97130343Surely people will buy them this time. They're actually very popular
>>97130274good job on these anon, I didnt think the cheeseburger yellow would work but it does
>>97130339This is like a greatest hits compilation of the things 40k players care the least about
>>97130318enjoyits not perfect but its pretty fun overall
>>97130348They are as popular as Orks and Space Wolves and more popular than Black Templars even though they were released this year with a very incomplete range and a shit Codex. I'd say they are doing extremely well.
>>97130361I don't see Grey Knights, Dark Eldar, Death Watch, or Agents of the Imperium there.
>>97130363Yeah I've heard it's pretty fun. I somehow can't get into the mood to paint so though this will help.
>>97130365I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I'm saving that
>>97130222His numbers are based on the subset of his viewers that answer his polls, that means they're a pretty narrow demographic that don't necessarily represent GWs customer base at large. I think they represent the heavily invested enthusiast quite well, but not little Timmy's mom shopping for his birthday present.But it shouldn't surprise that army boxes for re-launched favourites with new sculpts sell well to enthusiasts. They were also featured heavily by the various influencers, which again feeds into enthusiast attention.GWs total sales numbers probably skew more towards smaller boxes and Space Marines.
>>97130378Nice!
>>97130359Thanks! I've got quite a few more in the queueSpeaking of, should I paint a >riptide>broadside>secret mystery modelnext?
>>97130366Do you actually think these numbers are indicative of anything other than play rates? Do you think more people collect Thousand Sons than Orks?
>>97130398Orks are unpopular, yes.
>>97130222that mentally ill faggot here who shrieked about EC like they raped his whore mother is in shambles.
>>97130274I didn't expect your scheme to work this well. Looks great anon, real mech anime style.>>97130397Mystery model
>>97130407>who shrieked about EC like they raped his whore motherShe liked it, that's why he mad.
Messing around with phone trying to learn how to actually take photos with deliberate settings than the mcsloppa auto focus.Some HH models wip intended for chaos spawn.
>>97130436Oh my, lovely fellas
>>97130436TSanon had this great guide. Give it a try. I do almost the same now but with black background. I may need to find a more matte backgroun to avoid a shine though.
>>97130222ECschizo lying raped in a ditch somewhere as we speak.
>>97130366Some funny patterns emerge if you take this data at face value. For example, 63150 games are played by space marines, while 79799 games are played by Chaos, 78875 are played by Xenos, and 54096 by other Imperium armies. This actually makes Space Marines the 3rd most popular super faction and Chaos the most popular, despite SM being the most supported faction and Chaos the least supported one. >28.9% Chaos>28.6% Xenos>22.9% Space Marines>19.6% Imperium
>>97130451How do they count these data? Is it>number of games with space marines in itor>number of space marines in gamesif its the 1st, then marines vs marines (likely the most common matchup) counts as one.If its the 2nd, then it counts as two
>>97130222I do not trusts auspex's data. Not because the data itself bothers me, but becuse he's british and I wish to fucking rip the vocal cords from every fucking dude on the earth who speaks like him. Its disgusting, I could tolerate jive before listening to something so fucking british.
>>97130445I didn't know TSanon is an ant
>>97130460It would explain his super crisp paintjob desu
>>97130458I think it's by players registered to games. So a Marine v Marine match counts as two marine games played. Which is more accurate anyway if we are talking player numbers for each faction.
>>97130459he has an obvious speech impediment and should probably just use an ai voice to read his scripts.
>>97130471its a gimmick. I watched a batrep of a game he had with mordian glory and he had a normal speaking voice for it (as normal as can be for a britbong)
>>97130445Nice that is leading to the same kind of settings Im discovering on the phone. Minimum ISO and playing with shutter speed is already giving much better focus at full frame. Still having issues getting a good focus of squads but I think you splice multiple draw distances with software to get those better.
>>97130471people with speech impediments or insufferable voices should not go into a career that requires speaking in front of audiences years ago there was a radio host here who had a stammer and his show was just completely unlistenable even though he was otherwise good at his jobi say this as someone with a pretty bad stutter
>>97130274I dont like redemptors (too big) so i painted a Contemptor to use as a proxy for my white scars
>>97130486he has a following and is popular so doesn't seem like he did wrong by going into such a career lmao
>>97130459How have you been into 40k at all if you cant tolerate bongspeak lol
>>97130487Why does the contemptor have the autismo stance?
>>97130496lol the arms are magnetised, i just had him in a broing pose for the picture
>>9713049340k is an American sport now. Like soccer and hockey.
>>97130496shoulders above head is a gw staple. they think it looks intimidating or heroic. and not like a short guy trying to look tough (same with the super wide stances).
>>97130476What I do is to avoid a spread out squad pic but stagger them into two lines close together so they would be closer to the central focal point.Or take multiple pics. But a thin long line is hell to focus on.
>>97130445oh nice someone actually found this useful>>97130460Here's the original image
Do fortifications count for this month's collage?
>>97130451What kind of retarded third world logic is this.The entire faction of chaos (so Knights, Daemons, AND the marine varieties) get to count together as 'Chaos as a faction' yet Space Marines only get to count the marine varieties?Idiotic. Marines are the most played and most popular faction.
>>97130531skip the collage in protest of this retarded terrain idea
>>97130339Praying it's Halequins so I can actually win a game with them outside of Reaper's Wager
>>97130512Thanks, I def wanna look into some focus stacking with OpenCamera
>>97130534Space Marines are also a super faction>Vanilla>Black Templars>Space Wolves>Blood Angels>Dark Angels>Deathwatch>Grey KnightsCompared to >Vanilla CSM>World Eaters>Thousand Sons>Death Guard>Emperor's Children>Daemons>Chaos Knights>What kind of retarded third world logic is this.GW's logic
>>97130546he looks like some gay ass faggot
>>97130274I've been so busy this weekend I couldnt even paint
>>97130274Gonna finish up the GS on my third guy and prime him today.
>>97130564turn on your monitor
>>97130564
>>97130486Bro, that's kind of gay.
>>97130569ex-fucking-cuse me?
>>97130550BLUEBERRY!
>>97130593!!
>>97130568>the hood on the DG guyFucking lovelySo far these look like they could have been actual models at the time, very noice
>>97130140woooooooooow another op created by the creepy little weirdo with a mutilation fetish that enjoys exposing the rest of us to his vileness because he cant help himselfwhat a community!
>>97130568holy fucking soulyou continue to be not just one of my favourite painters in /40kg/ but in the hobby as a whole
Auspex tactics doesn't sound like he has a speech impediment to me, that's 100% an autismo voice
>>97130624type that without crying next time
>>97130614trying too hard
>>97130638that without crying next time
>>97130638Who did you think I'm mad about that? He sounds like every british autist
>>97130659I would be more surprised to hear that someone who analyzes the stats of a toy soldiers game wasn't autistic
Why do Russians slavishly devote themselves to products of British culture?
It's Uphttps://youtu.be/Ovw1w1XA288?si=iomndoWMKOgtkbNM
>>97130688Buy an ad
>>97130366>GSC at the bottom
>>97130688>caring about content creators of a hobby one can enjoy by himselfDisgustingly pathetic.
And now we're doing weird xenophagia yuri for some reason
>>97130687Russians can't even buy Warhammer if they live in their shithole hovels.
>>97130688>It's UpWhy you said it like you've been looking forward for it you sad sack of shit?
>>97130704or you could just stop posting that slop
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97130704god i wish that were me
>>97130706you buy your recasts from ivan and think they have any trouble getting models?
>>97130714As the tau, or the kroot, or the dead guardsman?
>>97130697It's what happens when you have to paint 200 highly detailed miniatures for rules that are not very good
>>97130687They aren't afraid of liking it, contrary to here in the western world.
>>97130687>Why do Russians slav?We'll never know.
>>97130459I don't want to terrifying you anon, but the language you're speaking is British too
>>97130720Kroot, the dead guardsman is also viable.
>>97130713Human Skin is a popular fashion choice in 41'st millenium
Q4 of this year is the time to buy GW stock and Q3 next year after the edition launch is the best time to sell, right?
>>97130722>cries in 30 neophytes on my table
>>97130736>no no I swear it isn't weird stop askingGood writing.
>>97130719You don't buy from ivan anymore. You buy from Lao Peng Dong. They can get their models that way as well but getting the original thing will cost them more than they can afford.
>>97130736Night Lords started the trend. The rest came later and adopted it from them.
What percentage of Chaos Marines are actually "Veterans of the Long War" anymore? Surely most of the Heresy soldiers are long dead by now
What's a wacky fun hive world to live on that's not Necromunda?
>>97130778Armageddon or Vigilus
>>97130741Only 30 Neophytes? Anon you need at least 60 to be viable, give James another hundred bucks and spend 3 weeks painting them
Balance Data Slate drops on Wednesday, right? That's the usual day?
>>97130773>‘Traitors, all of you! The Long War is not done while the Emperor sits on that throne on Terra! And all we have left is fops and cowards who will not do what it takes to settle the account!’>‘Us? Are you so stunted, Chengrel? So trapped? Leave your so-called Long War to the elders, all eaten up with spite, who cannot drag themselves out of a rut of ten thousand years! Think of all that Chaos offers you. Think of the power and grandeur. Think of what you have built already, and what you could achieve if you let the Great Ocean pour through you and push wide your understanding. Think of what awaits you if you would just shrug off your dreary little feud and strike out to explore! You are the traitor, Chengrel! Traitor to the potential our forefathers saw in us when they turned their backs on the Emperor and led us out into the void! Think on that, Chengrel, and learn shame!’>‘The Long War gives us meaning! The War is our purpose! Our primarchs swore it so! How dare you turn away from the pacts that they made before Horus and each other! Traitor! I name you traitor!’>‘Soulless, substanceless little remnant of a man. The war is as good as won, and we are the victors! We who understand! The Imperium means as little to us as the tawdry ambitions of those who cannot bear to stop making war on it. The only losers in your precious Long War are those who are unable to let it go. You and your Imperium deserve one another. And yet you swagger in front of us demanding that we prove ourselves your equals? It is no small satisfaction to me that I could not do so. What true heir to the primarchs would wish to lower themselves to equality with such as you?’Tl;drFucking boomersFucking zoomers
>>97130796I wonder if they will nerf bad stuff again and ignore the op shit
>>97130736
>>97130778Most of the ones that have been explored in detail are less "wacky fun" and more just dreary and depressing.
Reminder that we are on the verge of a Harlequin renaissance.
>>97130796Hoping it comes soon so we can get points costs on the new detachments' enhancementsCommissars leading ogryns should genuinely just be built into the model's rules in future
>>97130361maybe 40k players who suck
>>97130790Already painted 40, the 30 have already been assembled and sitting on my table for so long. 10 of them are about to be finished, for the past three weeks or so.
Im new and went with the rule of cool. I bought bunch of CSM. I want to learn about their lore. Are there books and yes which should i start with.
>>97130822Get the CSM's codex from the OP, easy peasy.
Do only white people like warhammer?
>>97130742I think the phrase >It was simply the way things wereSummarises one of the reasons WHY Imperium is so shitty. It takes the mantality "why are we doing this this way? Because it worked enough in the past" and with the addition of possibility of getting turned to Servitor at worst and getting BLAM'ed on the spot for questioning at best you get this pathological situation
>>97130833I'm just wondering why the narrator is justifying himself to the reader if it's the most normal thing in the world to him.
>>97130826I have played with a halfcast kid and two chinese guys but 90% of people I play are indeed white
so how exactly does GW justify excluding chaos daemons from getting codexes in 11th edition when they genuinely spent resources on making imperial agents an army only to have it be comedically dogshit
>>97130846>when they genuinely spent resources on making imperial agents an armylooooool
>>97130846GW is in the gradual process of splitting the ranges of its systemsEventually they want all products to belong exclusively to one range of one systemThis means that the current demons kits cannot stay as products meant for both 40k and aos, so 40k is marginalising them so they can be detached completely and stay as only aos products40k will likely end up having some newly designed 40k-specific demon kits for the various god-aligned legions, but it doesn't seem to be happening too soon, and it's unlikely such updates will be perfect continuations of the previous demon designs and archetypes, some might be new ideas and some of the old units might get no update at allwhat does that mean for belakor and the demon prince kit? we can't know, maybe they'll be the rare exception, in this ordeal
>>97130854they prioritized getting that shit out before emperor's children is the funniest partthey hyped it up with "oooh, we're going to have a mystery codex very soon, I hope you all get excited!"
>>97130687>British Culture: "Imagine, if you, will, the most horrible and repressive, brain-dead-idiotic theocratic autocracy where nothing nice ever happens but everything can always get worse.">Russian Fan: "Da! Is how things are here. Clearly this show glorious Russian future, must buy-buy and give praise in church-shrine to Stalin."
>>97130826Saw 2 black people in my LGS yesterday
>anklelet
Got the Dawn of War box for it was cheap, I don't normally play marines. I'm putting together Boarding Actions terrain and realized I can just grab a box of intercessors and have 470 points of models to play Boarding Actions with. Already decided on a paint scheme, which is going to be orange & black. About to grab some plasticard & compass cutter to make industrial bases. It's going to be a custom chapter with 0 named characters, I suppose having them Fleet Based makes the most sense. /mydudes/ going around space hulks, doing shit.Wish me luck
>>97130813goonhammer has those points
>>97130890No way is it OSHA compliant to have jet intakes the size of a car door installed inches behind one's head.
>>97130887doing what? trying to steal yugioh cards? that has nothing to do with warhammer
>>97130890dope art where's it from
>>97130826No (I'm a spic)
>>97130891God, if I had ever found that box in stores I would have started a Marine army instead of an Eldar army. What a different timeline that would have been...
>>97130826I've seen anon from Brunei here once. And I Doubt many westeners go there
>>97130914Mikhail Savier's IG.
>>97130905One was painting, the other was playing against mechanicus, didn't see what army he was using, I think it was iron hands
>>97130938Black Warhammer fan and Iron Hands player are already miniscule groups, that guy was probably the only black Iron Hands player in the world.
>>97130917>What a different timeline that would have been...Yeah, we wouldn't have to bear your stupid porn-addled posts about various Eldar body parts.
Holy fucking KEKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY4rfxfFsVA
>>97130955kek gottem
>>97130958buy an ad
>>97130955I don't post about Eldar body parts. One must appreciate the whole
>>97130976that is NOT what eldar feet look like
It's funny because they're in a game together.
>>97130958>puzzle tapestries
>>97130998*steals you*
They just can't keep it in their pants.Blood Angels today.
>>97130998Nice mk4 helmet
>>97130917Honestly the models are pretty dogshit, everything's monopose, mould lines are horrendous and pass through flat areas such as through the middle of shoulderpads, Judiciar's mask is dogshit etc. But for 29 Europoors it's 350 something worth of models so it's fine. Some would complain about the lack of weapon options that are available in the full kits, like giving one Eradicator a multi-melta or plasma on one of the bladeguard but I don't really care.
>>97131031It's a good thing there's so many days in the Christmas calendar, that way every space marine chapter can get their very own detachment.
>>97131042Bladeguard are the coolest thing in Space Marines, that Ancient is sick, the Judicar is wonderfully anime, that Chaplain model is fantastic but does need a skull helmet but those are easy to source, and the Eradicators are a little dull but at least they're big. It's basically every thing I like about Space Marine infantry in one box
>>97131038it's mk10
>>97131064>no ear flap>not flat face plate>large mouth grillI'm sure that's what they tried to draw, but it's not what they drew
>>97131031I will never understand using AI slop images for 40k
>>97131073It is very clearly mk10.
>>97131083I get not wanting to commission an actual artist, because that costs money. Even though that would actually help you create a solid brand and would only benefit your channel so it's a good investmentBut it's 40k, just fuckin steal one of the one billion pieces of official or fan art. Or use a screencap from SM2, or a picture of one of your own models.
Holy shit the dude that loves e-celebs from Twg has now migrated and roosted in 40kg. This general is going to be even more fucking awful.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zwxq77pl/grotmas-calendar-day-7-embrace-the-tragic-madness-of-the-blood-angels-with-a-new-detachment/it's up.
>>97131140>death company detachmentDon't they already have one of those?
>>97131113>>97131073 is right
Iron warrior consortium guy is primed and ready. Next up I'll do a night lord I think.
>>97131140This and the one from yesterday could've been erratas.
>>97131172What model is the one on the left from?
>>97131172>not priming blackfinally someone with common sense
What were the old cinematic space marine rules?
>>97131174Worse, if they're all just erratas for existing Detachments they could have done one for every army easily instead of just six.
>>97131179It's brother corbulo.
Making my first "kitbash" with riptide. what do you think anons?
"Corbulo" is a funny name.
>>97131202Roman name please understand. Pic related is the guy he is named after.
>>97131202>Brother Corbulo walks into the Apothecarion>his injured battle-brothers throw their hands up and exclaim "Corb!"
>>97131189Nice conversion work.
>>97131210What connection is there between him and 40k Corbulo?
>>97131140Pretty cool detatchment.
>>97131140>sticky>contempt>fnp5+>battleshock in exchange for 1S+1AP (and effectively 2 attacks on charge)>fight on deathenh>battleshock in exchange for advance and charge>once per battle FF>+1S 6"aura>sus2 vs char/vehi/moni mean i guess its ok but they kinda played super safe with the strategems here
>>97131137It makes your channel a bit more trustworthy. If you have slop I want watch it unless it's something I'm very interested in.
>>97131238Not much. Some brit probably just looked at roman sculptures, took the name and likeness, called it a day and went to Greggs for sosig and chippos.
>>97130189Everyone who signed up for secret santa has confirmed they received and/or sent their gift.
>>97131140>IG detachment is countered by the CSM one which is countered by the BA oneI sense a pattern
>>97131199Goes hard
>>97130436Get rid of the textured background. Your camera sensor is fighting trying to keep the background and subject similarly focused
>>97131316We don't sign our posts here.
>>97130540Sorry nogames, better luck next time
>>97131288>secret>knows anon has a blood angles and tyrantids army
>>97131140liberator assault detachment is still better
>buy an army>put the boxes in your closet>think about the paint scheme>think up 5 different paint schemes>wait till you have the time to build and paint>look up other paint schemes in the meantime >wait too long >start looking at other armies >think about starting a different armyIs this a curse?
>>97131321>replying to a 5 hours old shitpostwhy do people do this
>>97131334the curse of mental retardation yes
>>97131339anger
Can an imperial knight stand up on its own if it trips?
>>97131347Can you, fat boy?
>>97131334Nah, you're just an idiot consoomer that doesn't like the hobby, you just enjoy buying new shit.
>>97131348Shut up, that wasn't the question...
>>97131352>you just enjoy buying new shit.It's nice to have money.
>>97131348Surely this was typed by a healthy individual
>>97131339>defending nogames pants shittersNgmi
>>97131348>>97131352>seething projections>1 minute apartBoth fat and poor? What a short straw you've drawn in life anon
>>97131388>>97131397>Low effort shitstirring>1 minute apartYou really don't want this thread to do well
Anybody else just like the painting side of the hobby and have no interest in playing the game? I looked at the rules once and my brain almost exploded, also im way too autistic to focus on 1 chapter/army and i like variety too much.
>>97131291Harlequins will have the last laugh
>>97131413What do you like painting?
>>97131413I use my minis when playing RPGs.
>>97131413Just paint what you like for now. Eventually tou may fond that you enjoy painting one thing more than other things and can focus on an army, and then after you've done that for a while if you really really like what you've painted you can play some games if you'd like, but nobody is going to make you
>>97131334Pro tip 1:Only buy when you know what you'll do with it. Not when you "have an idea" of what to do with it, when you >KnowWhat you'll do with a kit.Pro-tip 2:That dream/perfect army? It takes time to figure out. Don't put all your eggs in the same basket and allow yourself to do armies you like, not love. Every army, everything you do in life, doesn't have to be the best thing you absolutely want.You love chaos marines but don't know which legion to pick, or how to paint said legion? That's okay.Maybe it's time to give that Our Martyred Lady SoB force you think would be pretty cool a shot.
>>97131404Wow you're right, those anons that guy were replying to were clearly contributing to the thread in such a meaningful way. How dare he interrupt their valued conversation about people being fat irl or that everyone is just a dumb idiot paypig.
>>97131417well ive painted a terminator squad, 10 hellblasters and 10 intercessors as Iron hands then got bored of IH and want to paint ravenguard instead.i also have 5 blightlord terminators and just got the combat patrol for deathguard. I also have x20 termangaunts, 3x von ryan leapers, a winged prime and a psychophage and x 10 genestealers for tyranids. I think i like painting nids the most.
>>97131413I can assure you you're not "way too autistic" if 10th rules are befuddling you
>>97131347They can’t, in Titanicus (the book), tripping is almost a death sentence for titans they have to be very careful of where they put their feet
>>97131140>detachment for intentionally failing battleshockIt’s definitely unique but how often are marines failing?
>>97131484Interesting, thank you. Do they specify that it's a death sentence because they can't defend themselves, or because the structure cannot take the fall/cannot support itself sideways?
>>97131413There are plenty of people that like painting but why pick expensive board game to do it with? That's so fucking stupid if you won't/can't play.
>>97131445>got bored of IH and want to paint ravenguard insteadsame damn thing
>>97131500I believe it’s because infantry can swarm over the fuckers and they can’t do anything about it.It’s a giant gorillion ton robot, they can’t physically lift themselves up and most equipment in the galaxy can’t either
>>97131511retard
>Go to warhammer store>People are polite>You have fun, sometimes deep conversation with strangers>Can agree to disagree, people will even hear you out>Have a good time>Go to /tg/>Bait>Porn spamYou know, if it wasn't for the few good ones here and the model posting, this place would be worse than worthless.Some of you niggers need to get a grip.
>>97131525I'm sure the next 20 black and white/silver marines will feel completely different from the first 20
>>97131537most of the people in that store aren't Russian or Bosnian, and own models
I was supposed to do terrain today but my PVA glue has completely dried up. I have failed you but I'll restock tomorrow and do a step by step thing then, I promise.
>>97131537I can assure you the same people being polite at LGS are posting bait and porn as well.
>>97130904it's okay he's got a helmet on
>>97130732Can I be your edible T'au girlfriend?
I need to bring high strength guns nut I don't want a parking lot list.Please update devastator kit and rhinos.I like eradicators but forcing the meltagun to a gravis body gives me aids.
>>97131413>filtered by 10th EdGrim.
>>97131334>buy army>its perfect because I'm austically fixated on it>paint it my favourite colour because i am austically fixated on it>make shitty OC lore so they are truly my dudes>starting looking at other armies>none of them are never as cool as my fixation faction>never want to paint another colour because its not the one i likevery excited for Christmas so i can open up duplicate copies of the same models again
>>97131577unironically this.>>97131564please make it easier for me to run 60x of the same body, each holding one of 4 guns
>>97131334I have 5 armies at different levels of commitment right now, the thing that helped me out is to futureproof any paintschemes that I'd be doing so that no army shares the exact same "main" colors. For example, my armies right now are>Salamanders (Green)>Imperial Guard (Krieg Blue)>Imperial Knights (House Orhlacc Purple)>World Eaters (Red)>Eldar (Iyanden Yellow)I've then settled on a "main" color for each other potential army if I were to ever collect them >AdMech - Metalica Bone White>Sisters of Battle (Order of the Sacred Rose White)>Custodes - Gold w/ Sapphire Blue highlights>CSM - Iron Warriors Silver>Orks - Goff Black>Tyranids - Pink & Green)>Tau - the original Ochre/Brown colorscheme>Votann - Grey with hints of Cyan/Brown>Genestealer Cults - Rusted Claw Orange/Grey>Dark Eldar - Some sorta Blue/Green colorscheme, haven't really delved into them muchIs this autistic? Yes it is. Does it save me from having to figure out how I want to paint up my minis? Yes it does
What if I like just a small part of an army? I enjoy Tau mecha suits, but don't like groots and planes and the small pathfinder soldiers. I like sisters of battle, but don't like the repentias and the whip boys. I like Drukhari ships and bikes and the mad science part, but don't like the half naked gladiator elves. Is it viable to use only part of an army, if I want to be just casual player?
>>97131397>everyone that calls retards out is the same persondon't skip your meds without physicians approval
>>97131549I shit on the phobos marines you love so much and own more models than you :^)
>>97131577Which army?Also I relate but I would be tempted to do like, maybe 1-2 "rival" armies for my main fixationdudes and deliberately make the colour schemes/painting process less convoluted and autistic as a testament to my main dudes being xtra special lol
>>97131511yes and no, i agree that painting black again will be boring but i kind of like the stealth/ phobos/beakies thing they got going on
>>97131537The two are separate In an LGS I go to play gamesOn TG I am nogames
>>97131508seems like most model painting is overpriced desu, i was looking at the mothman cult models for fallout wasteland and they are like £40
>>97131443>dumb idiot paypigBuying boxes of miniatures that you don't even intend to build and paint is retarded as fuck no matter what copes you come up with
>>97131352NTA, but I'm just autistic. I think tyranids and SoB are cool, but I also want to play an army that has an Fabtady/AoS counterpart, and joytoy representation, and also shows up in video games, and can be approximate in other media I consume
>>97131601Viable, yes. Fucking boring, also yes
>>97131617I dont play loyalist armies, it's amazing how easy it is to get a Bosnian's blood to boil
>>97131638We are all Ben on 40kg
>>97131347>>97131484Maybe?
>>97131413A lot of people here admit to not playing the game. Nothing wrong with that as long as they don't shitpost about it. Lorefags that don't even own models need to go, though.
>>97131659>abominable intelligencethanks for the effort, kraut
>>97131601I think it's best to branch out a little to balance an army even if you're leaning one way.I like mecha tau a lot and I still fill out the list with a little variety, my list includes:FarsightCrisis Suits w/CommandersBroadsidesStealth SuitsBut it also includesBreachersPathfindersAnd if I was going to expand to 2000 points, I'd definitely be adding Ghostkeels and more giant robots, but I'd also be adding Firesight teams and more infantry, as well as some transports.Even if they're your second favorites or just filling out an army role, if you're going to play you should try not to pidgeonhole yourself too badly.
>>97131601>What if I like just a small part of an army?Make skew lists waiting for GW to make a pandering detachment, duh
>>97131564las fusil eliminators
>>97130511These look so good, yet that soapy looking stuff on your bases looks so shitty. Amazing models tho
>>97131564Get a desolation squad
Odds I kitbash more heavy intercessors out of some spare arms and bodies I haveEvens I wait to see what units come in the 11e starter
>>97131659
>>97130140>4 hours longDo people actually watch these kind of videos
>>97131736I like that guy's channel because he's very clearly a newer painter and still learning, it's nice seeing somebody doing tutorials who isn't impossibly good to the point that you'll never recreate what they show off
>>97131597Votan and steelers are the same color
>>97131736>>97131744Please don't slander my goat here in spite of him posting here during 2020 covid thing
>>97131736secondaries and paint-only niggers love them
>>97131736I want to watch it. Channel name?
>>97131750What if I do Jeanstealers?
>>97131601Everything is viable. Whether or not it's good is a different story. It also depends on what kind of casual player. Are you casual in the sense that you just play friendly games with your friends or are you casual in the sense that you play a handful of pickup games a year.
>>97131790>acid wash blue denim tone carapace>black faded denim tone fleshCould be kino
>>97131601>can i play this army without running this niche sub faction dps unitYes!>can i play this army without running any of the baseline utility units at allyes, but it will be miserable committing 300+ point damage units to cleansing an objective
>>97131729Get to work anon>>97131762Your goat is a furfag?
>>97131736Putting hobby tutorials in the middle of a YouTube lore video essay seems like a strange choice that might see lorefags skipping through and hobbyfags not clicking the video initially. That said I like the idea a lot, it's sortve doing what a codex/white dwarf does in video form. You get a bunch of lore blurbs about a few subfactions, some model pics, and some painting tutorials. Could be a really good way of getting lorefags exposed to the hobby and potentially getting some of them to convert to hobbyfags. I will also saybuy an ad
>>97131729Post progress when you start or I'll cut your catalytic converters out and sell them to buy bulk synthetic coyote piss and lamb bile that I'll pour through a tube slid in the crack of your car window and will fill your drivers seat with concentrated synthetic dog pee and sheep puke
Im not buying ads because talking about warhammer 40k is on topic. Get fucked, trolls.
>>97131439>You love chaos marines but don't know which legion to pick, or how to paint said legion? That's okay.>Maybe it's time to give that Our Martyred Lady SoB force you think would be pretty cool a shot.This is me with Necrons. I got a Combat Patrol. Built them, primed them, had a scheme ready but then I thought about a better scheme and then another one and another and then I came back to the first one then to the 4th one etc. so in the end I lost interest and started painting something else. One day, Necrons, one day.
>>97131890This, all these wannabe jannies can get fucked. Videos are 40k related and many posted in these threads are cool.
>>97131899no sloptuber videos are cool and if you enjoy them you're unironically an idiot
>>97131855It would be interesting to see if there is an army you can build within a faction that has literally zero interaction with its self. Like no characters able to join units, no synergy allowed period
>>97131712>200/5 No wonder I've never seen them. Is indirect fire really THAT good?
>>97131904You're just talking to arch himself he's still trying to shill his shitty slop here
>>97131890It's was a joke anon relax
I think the Arch Warhammer video about the current state of 40k was really well done and definitely worth watching at least until the 10 minute mark.Too bad it got taken down and you cant watch it anymore.Sorry Archie :^) guess you'll have to peddle your bait elsewhere.
>>97131908Its pretty good. I usually don't lose unless my desolation squads die.
>>97131916>Arch Warhammer video about the current state of 40k was really well doneuhh I guess?>and definitely worth watchingpicrel
>>97131916I think if you're watching drama grifters for any reason that you're likely missing an important part of your brain matter
>>97131922Is there some combo I'm missing to make them better? I usually play firestorm and I'm not very familiar with other detachments
>>97130140>What is the best way to introduce the hobby to a new player.Force them to paint twenty tyranids, if they can manage that they're welcome.
>new guard detachment is hard countered by the new CSM detachment.>new CSM detachment is hard countered by the new blood angels detachment.
>>97131943I tried this in 3rd edition when I first tried to get into the hobby and unironically bounced off it so hard I didn't try again until 5th.
>>97131951What would hard counter the BA detachment? Emperor's Children with Precision Mortals or Space Wolves with Wolf Jail?
>>97131951>Harlequins detachment probably coming lastMurderclowns stay winning
>>97131967>Harlequins detachment is hard-countered by the new guard detachmentit's gonna be a full circle
>>97130915Pedro?
>>97131916>definitely worth watching at least until the 10 minute mark.I haven't seen it and I can already tell that it just plain isn't.
Do neodymium magnets lose strength over time? Or did I just buy some that had different strength (but same size)? I have some of them from 2021 that come off the tray easily, but then I've got a new set from this year and it feels like I'm gonna break the mini trying to remove it from the tray.
>>97131995>>97131924>>97131923None of you tead the 2nd paragraph lmao. Idiots.
>>97132003Watching 10 minutes of grifter slop is 10 minutes too much.
>>97132003I did arch's channel and the video is still there so he's wrong too.
>>97132003For context you're arguing with fat ugly retards that nobody wants to be around so keep that in mind.
>>97132001They're just different qualities. Just because a magnet is the same size doesn't mean they have the same pull strength.
>>97130891Are there any transfers in this box or are the official painted blood ravens all freehand emblems?
>>97132018>nooooo you have to like shoveling drama slop into your brain noooooYou are mentally weak
>>97132018>fat ugly retards that nobody wants to be aroundDon't project so much arch, your failing grift isn't that big a deal lmfao
>>97132021didn't come with any, just the red sprue.
>>97132021No transfers, iirc forgeworld used to have br transfers but those are probably freehandedThere are also dozens of Etsy sellers with BR sheets available
>>97132026I actually watched the video, it seems like a bunch of stuff everyone already knows and it was way to long. It could have been a 5-10 min video.
Apparently I need to make up my own rules for these mortars. Turns out much of my force is [legends] or missing altogether, and my 3000 pt army is only about 2000 now. Good thing I don't care. If you look really, really ,closely, you might be able to see some odd print lines on the hasty sandbags. That is because these are a futuristic high-tech 3d printed sandbag, and because I ran out of gaf
>>97132021The official ones likely use the old oop forgeworld transfer sheet. There's no reason for them to hand paint any chapter icon anymore, they can just print whatever decals they need themselves far easier and quicker than anyone could paint them
>>97132032Yeah the forgeworld ones were great. I miss the brass etchings too.
>>97132018>you must be ugly, fat and stupid if you don't want to watch or care about the most lowest common denominator e-celeb grifter drama slopWhy don't you take that video, put it on a thumb drive and then stick it where sun don't shine.
>>97132025>>97132026>>97132046Be quiet nogames quinary scum
>>97132038I've never worked with prints before, but they next time you do those sandbags you might be able to slather them in unthinned pva to knock away the layer lines a bit without fucking with sanding 100 tiny sandbags by hand or spraying them with leveling primer individually. If they're resin you could probably paint uncured resin onto them and blast them with uv to set it
>>97132053The only quinary is you faggot. Go back to watching your space king slop.
>>97132053you don't own a single painted model lmao
>>97132053>uironically promoting and watching an e-celeb grifter faggot and his drama videos>calling others secondariesYou're the dumbest motherfucker in this thread.
>>97132053That slop has nothing to do with the game supposedly, and is just lashing out about lore. It's designed from the ground up for tourist. There's a reason he only melts down over lore and isn't making drama videos about rules changes, or painting trends
>archshilling>in 2025Where did this timetraveling nomodels come from
>>97132053watching youtuber drama is on the exact same level as being into hollywood celebrity gossip, kill yourself
>>97132038>Apparently I need to make up my own rules for these mortarsNo you don't, guard already has 2 datasheets for mortar squads
>>97131916As someone who gave the video a shot, I had to stop not even a third of the way in because he said>the imperium is the way it is because of necessityWhich shows his ignorance.It's on the same level as people who peddle that>the rock was a gay barThat arch guy understood the same thing politicians use: Opposition. You don't need to be someone or stand for anything if you just find the loudest idiot and proclaim you're against them.TL;DR: His entire thing is being against (insert side of current irrelevant bullshit/hysteria people fight over).
Yeah well Arch's video got taken down so you can't even watch it if you wanted to.
Cute Eldar boy feet
>>97132138I just looked, its still up. What are you talking about?
>>97132138But it wasn't though? It's still there on his youtube channel?
>>97132143>>97132144He's making the number go up every time you check
>>97132152I'm just looking at his channel, I'm not clicking on the video.
>>97131601Can't you play them like that in killteam at least?>t. Aosfag
>>97132180*spits on you*
>>97131601Depends on the army and on what parts you like. To look at your specific examples, You can go mecha heavy Tau but will probably want at least some troops.Sisters without Repentias or Arco-Flagellants is fine.Drukhari without Wyches is fine.
>>97132019>Just because a magnet is the same size doesn't mean they have the same pull strength.Ah, wish I had known that.
>>97130140Is this setting ever going to get End Times'd? It feels like they're hinting towards it, but I doubt GW has the balls to kill their cash cow.
>>97132227End times are for things that don't make money.
>>97132203Even if you're buying from the same manufacturer they'll likely have different pull strengths unless you're buying scientific magnets, because the mined material is unlikely to be purchased from the same source for a long time. Generally that kind of manufacturing you are constantly looking for better priced suppliers, it functions like the gold industry
>>97132231Pretty easy to fuck up profit when you fuck up the game.
>>97132227That's what gathering storm was, they just named it something that hinted that it was building towards something instead of ending something so people didn't freak out about it as much
Do you know where I can find the tutorial missions from the Conquest, Imperium and/or combat patrol collections?
Guys... what if we're the bad guys?
>>97132268*shoots you*
>>97132268I liked the new episode.
>>97132268Don't care, all fucking psykers must fucking burn!
>>97132231WHFB was making money, though. Not as much as 40k but still.
>>97132268Do you want to give Danny Fortuna an aneurysm?
Finally got my hands on one of these
I hate the over-reliance on characters that plagues 10th, especially because of how boring they've been implemented overall. In 30k I can add a siegebreaker to access his phosphex ammo. In older editions of 40k I could add a psyker for a variety of utlity or damage powers, a specific character to unlock use of certain thematic units or to use their wargear such as meks using their kustom force field or have interesting niche rules like Snikrot giving a bunch of rules to kommandoes to be sneakier. Seems like in 10th every character just gives a re-roll, a +1 to hit/wound, lethal hits or devastating wounds and with no FOC there's no hard limit of 1-2 like before so sometimes it feels like you're handicapping yourself for not giving a character to almost every unit because why wouldn't you.
>>97132268was this a refence to Cato killing the tau woman?
>>97132227>apocaliptic event>factions reshuffled>stormcast eternals (primaris)>shit lore moving forward with no dates for anything>every single bit of new story needs to be set in the "present", involve the same dozen characters and the status quo must be preserved so nothing ever happens>shrimplification of the gameAlready happened.
>>97132355Imperium aren't the good guys.
>>97131736They are great to have as background for paint or build sessions.
>>97132348Play old editions? Or other games using your 40k minis?
>>97132378listen to music or audiobooks instead of this slop
>>97132322Really wish they'd stuck closer to this for Helbrutes.
>>97131596>please make it easier for me to run 60x of the same body, each holding one of 4 gunsThat was a cool part about marines. There's no need to have a completely different armour and shape to carry a different gun.
>>97131496Not much. They get a 6+ ld test when the average is 7 and they run such small units that they don't usually have to roll for casualties.
>>97132385What's slop about it? What difference is there between an audiobook and a well presented video essay of a topic of the lore?
>>97132382I believe they can make the game better. The solution to any problem isn't abandoning ship immediately the moment everything isn't 100% perfect.
>>97130140Necron gf
How can they fix terminators?
>>97132416There is no incentive for GW to make the game better. Tourney whales and Flavor of the Month people will keep buying armies whenever new memes or rule changes happen.
ngl kitbashing for the first time and im rly having a rly good fun,
>>97132387It's okay the helbert kit is tiny compared to the ballistics/other nu-dreads so clearly they're going to release a new model in 11th so you have more plastic shit to buy.
>>97132430In that logic then there's no reason to make it worse either.
>>97132428They can't. Terminators were always unsalvageably ugly.
>>97132438I mean ruleswise, the rest is just a lie I'm unwilling to humor.
>>97132435They aren't out to make the game worse, they are just changing it in some way so they can use it in their marketing as a buzzword when they are hyping up for a new edition release, the game becoming worse as a result is a side effect, a symptom.
>>97132293No it wasn't.GW was on the verge of bankruptcy, thats why they remade it into AoS which despite the impotent cries of the grogs is much more profitable than WHFB
>>97132456>They aren't out to make the game worseI beg to differ.
>>97132460NTA but it took AoS 2 years and a radical shift in direction to be profitable. Which is effort and resources they could have used to fix WHFB after mismanaging it (and the entire company) for a decade at that point. Let's not forget WHFB wasn't the only casualty, they cancelled every single game except 40k and MSBG (because they still had the rights but they stopped making anything new for it until 2018) and they were very ready to do the same for 40k until they reconsidered after seeing the incredibly bad reception of AoS at launch. So pretending the issue was something intrinsic to WHFB is pretty stupid.
How is 11th going to finally fix Orks?
>>97132493>Which is effort and resources they could have used to fix WHFBHAHAHAH, I swear you fakegrogs come up with new copes every day
>>97132504By giving them more ETB monopose models and locking loadouts to them.
>>97132504By updating their core units like boyz and meganobz so they stop pushing beastnaggas so hard.
>>97132478I agree that Cruddace is stupid and 10th edition is dogshit. But I understand his point about giving every unit in 40k a unique role, it sounds cool on paper, but it is poorly executed. But also at the same time it is pretty dumb thing to do since not everything needs to be or have a unique role.This is what I mean about them just changing shit in an attempt to make the game better or more "interesting". But in the end it just making the game worse over all.It's kinda like how one of GW's catch phrases for 10th is that "Simplified! Not simple" and "Less Rerolls", only to make the game more complicated and have more book keeping and then made rerolls even more common than before.
>>97132493Holy shit you're retarded. No one was buying WHFB minis get over it.
>>97132504More Beastsnaggas, squat things like the Stompa and Meganobz.
>>97132504I hope they lean more into the noble savage aspect of the orks. The cars and planes are stupid
>>97132101Really? All I'm seeing is the Heavy Mortar, which is a big fucker on wheels, and that's [Legends] too. The only options New Recruit gives me for my wpn sqds is lascannons or hvy stubbers.
>>97132521>But I understand his point about giving every unit in 40k a unique role, it sounds cool on paperI don't because it's fundamentally not how a wargame operates. You're making an army, it should resemble an army, not a collection of individual units you take for a specific random ability like a card game. You're building an army not a deck. You should take units mostly because of their intrisic qualities and wargear, not because of an abstracted unique ability. That's how it works in historicals for a reason.>It's kinda like how one of GW's catch phrases for 10th is that "Simplified! Not simple" and "Less Rerolls", only to make the game more complicated and have more book keeping and then made rerolls even more common than before.Well that too. Most of what they said in the 10th edition design articles was either a lie or straight up the opposite of reality. It was mad.
>>97132493The truth is that there was no fixing WHF.What would could have fixed it is that GW stopped being retarded and lowered the barrier for entry. WHF died because armies became so god damn inflated that you had to shill out hundreds of €$ just to play the damn game, that is instantly going to turn off any new person to the game.But since this is GW, it means they are retarded and they are quite literally incapable of accepting of lowering prices because the boomers at the top view it as them possibly making less profit.Even though ironically enough, there's 100x more people who are willing to part with 20$ for box of 10 minis, than a guy who is willing to part with 50$ for the same box of 10 minis.
>>97132507>>97132525>no arguments givenI don't get why you'd win by revising history? All I've stated were pretty easy to check facts. AoS did nothing to GW sales until mid 2016 when they added points back to the game and made a semblance of list building which is the complete opposite of the initial premise of AoS.
>>97132376Yes they are, the taught woman was fake surrendering
>>97132536cadian and catachan heavy weapons teams can take mortars.
>>97132376Retard
>>97132536>All I'm seeing is the Heavy Mortar, which is a big fucker on wheels, and that's [Legends] tooAlso has a datasheet, its under "artillery team"
>>97132551Not sure why you think that's any different in AoS. Outside of stupid rule changes in 7th and 8th that promoted gigantic bricks of units the modelcounts of most armies aren't very different with AoS. Your goblin or skaven army still has 120+ models.
>>97132038Why can't you run these as heavy weapons teams with mortars? They are even on the same base.
Are you winning /40kg/?
>>97132543>I don't because it's fundamentally not how a wargame operates. You're making an army, it should resemble an army, not a collection of individual units you take for a specific random ability like a card game. You're building an army not a deck. You should take units mostly because of their intrisic qualities and wargear, not because of an abstracted unique ability. That's how it works in historicals for a reason.I agree.I'm just saying I can see where he is coming from with the appeal of "every unit has a role" thing. It sounds interesting, but in practise it's just not worth it like we have seen over the course of 10th edition.Giving every unit/model their own special rule is beyond retarded and it is just a shittier version of the Universal Special Rules system from older editions.It's basically just trying to reinvent the wheel. But instead of keeping it simple they add more moving parts and complexity, which obviously exponentially increases the points of failure which can and will fuck up the wheel.
>>97132579I've won exactly 1 more game of 10th than I've lost so you could say I am.
>>97132579I've won my last three games since I started playing again. Not by large margins, but barely. Spectacle of Spite is wild.
>>97132579Im having fun
>>97132560Imperials do that too. They are also evil.
>>97132555Anon the relaunch of wfb can't make it to top 10 selling games even after all the exposure it got from tww. If they thought wfb was salvageable they wouldn't have canned it. I know you think you're smarter than people managing a huge fucking company but the truth is you're not. There was no saving wfb back then, accept it and move on already, it's been 10 years.
>>97132584I wish that GW at least tried to come up with a lore basis for all the data sheet abilities. So many of them feel so gamey and nonsensical that I literally don't understand what they are supposed to be representing besides a random mechanical bonus.
>>97132579Played a boarding actions match last night with only models I've finished painting and got my shit pushed in again lmao
>>97132584>But instead of keeping it simple they add more moving parts and complexity, which obviously exponentially increases the points of failure which can and will fuck up the wheel.I believe they simply don't understand that simplicity doesn't come from how easy to reference shit on a unit's datasheet is. It's about how the game is structured and how much you need to keep track of and memorize. They keep gutting the core rules edition after edition just to stuff datasheets full of abstracted stuff that no longer represents any physical reality and call it "simplified" because you can just check everything on the datasheet. And I hate it because they've shown they can still operate under the older, way better though, design structure with TOW and 30k or Necromunda.
>>97132602I think they should be consolidated.Like every variant of dreadnought or leman russ having a different rule is a bit much. Pick one to stick with and give all of them the same rule
>>97132422Would.
>>97132579No
>>97132602My only guess is that they did that because they gutted wargear only 50% of units in the game and in the remaining 50% they made all of it free, meaning all list building has gone out the window. Same with game balance.So as a compensator they added these unit specific special rules to try and make up for it.
>>97132593>Imperials do that too.Nope
>>97132600I don't think it's surprising that a game that is given ten times less resources than AoS, isn't translated to 12 languages (so it's pretty dead outside of the anglosphere when WHFB was huge in places like spain, italy or eastern europe), cut the playable factions in two and then took them an entire year to start selling all the remaining playable factions 90% of which is still the same 20 year old models (or even older because AoS is using the "newer" versions of those kits, look at goblins) isn't drowning in money. And even then by their own admission it's profitable enough to increase the scope of the project.I'm only saying that the issue was GW's management and not something intrinsic of WHFB that meant the game needed to die.
>>97132428pistol rule on storm bolters, reduce weapon damage so that 3 damage isn't a basic common attack profile
>>97132428drop invuln to 5+ but give them reduce damage by 1
>>97132632They do.
>>97132611Most units don't even need those abilities. The point of a leman russ is to be a tank and have a big ass gun. Why the fuck does it need a gimmick on top of that? Special rules are useful to cover niche things that the core mechanics and stats of the game can't represent it's not something that every single unit needs. But if they keep dumbing down and deleting core mechanics of the game then of course they're gonna need something to replace it. But that's a slippery slope we don't want them to step into.
>>97132428>big ass guy in thick as iconic armor has 3w>some blueberry elite warrior gets 4w
>>97132579>5-7 this yearNo...
>>97132648Counterpoint: bring back old AP so 2+ saves mean something.
>>97132428bring back the 3d6 save
>>97132504new deffdread thats double the price with half as many options
>>97130220I do like porn
What are you getting from Santa for Christmas?
What email am I supposed to use when I found something wrong with the GW website?
>>97132576That's what I'm doing. The 2 man heavy mortar teams of the cadians and catachans, same as their other hvy weapon teams are on 62mm bases and distinctly different than the Krieg hvy weapon teams on 50mm bases, which only give stubbers or lascannons as options. The "light" mortar here is missing. >>97132571No shit moron, that's ARTILLERY. That's like asking about a sentinel variant and answering with a rogal dorn. Give your head a shake.
>>97132428Rerollable saves against Damage 1 weapons. They need to be basically impervious to light weapons and hard counter those units.
>>97132721>Rerollable saves against Damage 1 weapons.Ok but only if purestrain genestealers have dev wounds back and anti-infantry +3, their matchup was supposed to be nuke or be nuked.
>>97132709>The 2 man heavy mortar teams of the cadians and catachans, same as their other hvy weapon teams are on 62mm basesCadians use 50mm now.So use their datasheet
>>97132617how are you actually supposed to deal with going second?i got 50% win going first but 25% for second
>>97132431A Virtuous job.
>>97132705connectwithus@autismspeaks.org
>>97132721I don't think damage 1 is what's killing terminators so fast.
>>97132737I find it easier to go second. If you go first you can do jack shit because nothing is visible and you still can't bring reserves. So unless you have some infiltrators and a lucky set of secondaries you just shuffle and wait.
>>97132061Yeah, I would've done exactly that, and I may end up coming back to them and enhancing them later, since it's just a hasty speed paint on a $10 unit (maybe ten minutes total on these), I didn't want to waste extra time. I also thought to myself, putting sandbags on the models is kinda pointless, rather than making sandbag based terrain that can actually function in the game to provide cover or whatnot. But I do appreciate your tips and I will use them when I start making said terrain pieces.
>>97130274From yesterday
>>97131790
>>97132704Hopefully a rimjob
>>97132704I don't know actually. I've told my family to not get me any warhammer because I still have stuff in my backlog so I don't really need more plastic.
>>97132830Cool Emperor's Children
>>97132525At my LGS, the WHFB died because the number of models you had to buy, build, and paint just to have a full army was fucking obscene no matter what army you picked. The game died before it even got off the ground here.
>>97132731Actually this seems stupidly obvious now. I guess I saw "Cadian..." In the list and skipped over it. Thank you kindly friend.
Turning regiments into specific units was a fucking awful decision. Regiments should just be like chapters, a reskin of the entire faction with maybe a few special unique units, it doesn't need to have their own version of infantry squads, command squads or heavy weapon squads.
>>97132634>>97132871Any game failing is literally always due to GW mismanagement rather than the fault of buying customers and nobody, especially not people here, want to confront this.
>>97132889Yeah and that's why it died in my area. They increased the amount of models you had to buy to have a full army and it was just too much for people that were also building up their 40k armies. It could probably happen to 40k but it's the golden goose so people will just keep buying.
>>97132902>It could probably happen to 40kOh it did. Since sales were way higher in the first place they still sold enough but the shitfest of free stuff 7th's formations gave made a huge dent for the exact same reason.
You know what would be good? A 30/40k fighting game with all the primarchs. Stuff like Cawl and St.Celestine could be DLC.
>>97132911I'm already feeling it myself, just look at how the same Abaddon model got like four/five price increases over the course of it being around. I play ad mech which is pure suffering for price point.
>>97132913kill yourself, unironically
>>97132902They can only do so much, because there are lots of Games Workshop stores where there's just not enough standing space for too many models on the table to be viable. They're better off trying MTG-style rotation instead if they want their greed to get the better of them.
>>97132830The best Votann...
>>97132913I'd welcome this only if you gave it to a Japanese dev instead of Netherrealms or some westoid dev that doesn't know what they're doing.
>>97132913Most retarded shit I ever heard
>>97132934I would say something like "Imagine the models you worked so hard on becoming unviable because they're tailoring the rules to fit some business model" but that's already the case.
>>97132921Same shit with votann. It's weird really. I remember when they were about to launch 9th they said they were raising points costs across the board to try and make armies smaller. And they did, and armies in 9th were like 20% smaller than late 8th. But after that they kept lowering point costs again and again even after 10th and it's gotten completely out of hand. We're now playing with what used to be 2500+ points on smaller, way denser boards than what were used to play 1500 points.
>>97132953I haven't really bothered much with 10th because my 9th army ended up going way under in points and I didn't want to be arsed with building a horde ad mech army. Also hate that the tables keep getting smaller.
>>97132951There's also more specifically the subset of "we're either gonna make a lot of your models either non-tournament legal or just outright not have datasheets anymore" which was done to Space Marines and Stormcast Eternals, the latter of which haven't even been around that long. To this day I'm still not surprised our local AoS scene died as fast as it did when the new edition released.
>>97132968I still don't get what the reasoning for the smaller boards was. If they were trying to sell people into their own mats and they wanted a proprietary size I'd at least get it but they just don't sell them.
>>97132974It's honestly crazy how they just wiped out entire swathes of the stormcast line. 40k kind of underwent some of that too, especially with how they've forcibly divided the HH and 40k model lines.>>97132985It seems artificially small like they're trying to cram it into more of a boardgame format. Then again, entire parts of the game have been abstracted towards that. I'm guessing they're trying to engineer some really strict standards but it kind of meddles with it being a wargame.
>>97133010>the HH/40k divideShit's why I often joke that the accounting department is the strongest department at the company.
>>97132889>literally always due to GW mismanagement rather than the fault of buying customersObviously? GW having the most dedicated paypigs in the industry is well established by now.>>97133010>I'm guessing they're trying to engineer some really strict standards but it kind of meddles with it being a wargameI think the endgame will be a Warhammer 'lite' game to hook FotMfags and eventually move them to Warhammer proper. They've basically been working towards that since 8e.
>>97131736https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AD0VE2_JbUI only watch females painting minis
>>97133085I'm guessing that "Warhammer proper" will be a giant pile of media products, or at least that's what they seem to want.
>>97133090I swear to god I will never understand why people like being whispered to by a youtube video
>>97133102I'm a lonely man
>>97133099>or at least that's what they seem to wantMakes sense desu. The more shit they can sell to people (or, better yet, make them pay a WH+ subscription for), the better.
>>97133111so am I and I still don't get it
>>97133111Just wait for the official Games Workshop® Adepta Sororitas© AI gf
Why "Votann"?I understand the "Leagues" part, squats had leagues back then, but why did they pick "Votann"?
What's the Harlequins detachment going to be that separates it enough from Ghosts or Reapers? There's only so much you can do with an army of 8 datasheets.
>>97133153Because that's what their sentient AI super computers that hold together their society are called.
>>97133152Can't wait
>>97133153Wotan is a Norse reference. It was an attempt to get players to think they're rapeable.
>>97133176Not the in-universe reason, you fucktard.
>>97133186>Nordic referenceThat makes senseApparently it's derived from Odin or something of a similar role. Thank you anon, very cool.
>>97130339
>>97130339>wolves>likely half the shit only works or is targetable on Logan when he's alive on the table>so you have to play him like lil bitch since even quarterbrain would know to try and snipe him
>>97133206Who is this semen demon?
>>97132913Nah this is how you make a 40k Fightan game>No pre-existing named characters, all new faces or generic templates>Tactical Marine (All-rounder character that's good for beginners, basically the Ryu of the game. Ultramarines default colors but recolors are other loyalist chapters like Salamanders, Crimson Fists, Blood Ravens, etc)>Terminator (Slow, heavy weapons fighter, Blood Angels colors by default but includes Imperial Fists, Iron Hands, etc)>Bladeguard (Swordfighter, Dark Angels as default colors, Black Templars as P2 colors)>Guardsman (single Krieg rifleman with shovels and grenades, lowest HP Pool of the cast & has artillery strikes as a Super)>Sister of Battle (Flamer-based projectile fighter that gains faith mid-match to gain boosts)>Custodes (Tanky spear fighter that takes minimal knockback from moves)>Tech-Priest (Puppet fighter that controls a Servitor to aid in mixups, super summons a Knight)>Howling Banshee (Rushdown fighter with a lot of air-dashes)>Sybarite (Whip fighter that uses an Agonizer>Warboss (The game's dedicated Grappler)>Stealth Suit (Basically a shooty ninja)>Kroot Hunter (Fast rushdown character, gains buffs on each round win to represent eating its prey)>Tyranid Warrior (Another melee dude, maybe give his blades some sort of poison mechanic)>Reductus Saboteur (Fights by setting up traps for screen control)>Einhyr Champion (Shortking with a hammer, what's not to like)>Skorpekh Destroyer (Big HP hitsponge of a character)>Legionary (Tweaked version of the Tactical Marine, basically the Ken to the former's Ryu)>Khorne Berzerker (Melee CSM fighter)>Exalted Sorcerer (Ranged CSM fighter)>Daemon Prince (Boss character, storymode main villain)Marines get three reps because they're the posterboys, every other faction/race gets one rep with more as DLC later down the line.
>for christmas we give you fun new detachments!!!!1!!>space marines>imperial guard>off-color space marines>space marines>space marinesholy fuck I need to be playing a different wargame
I'm fascinated by the sight of hive cities. I get lost looking at the scenery in this game it's so fucking cool.
>>97133303im tempted to take some time off to playtest starcraft when the opportunity comes, i would go into more skirmishy game if 3d printer wasn't a hurdle
>>97133303>holy fuck I need to be playing a different wargameThen do so lol
>>97133303It's also tragic that all those space marine detachments aren't even a new way of playing the army like a drop pod assault or a flyer focused one (to mimick the old rites of war) but are just tweaked versions of existing detachments.
>>97133303>marines get [Slightly different Blood Angels] and [Slightly different Space Wolves]>CSM gets [Slightly different Night Lords]>Guard get what's possibly their strongest detachment solely on the addition of an extra order per officer and the ability to order OgrynGuardchads we can't stop winning
>>97133189retard
>>97133346My favorite thing about the new detachment, is its very flexible. Almost every unit and army build benefits from it.
>>97133303Take the clown pill
>>97133346your army will be balanced around this new aggressively OP detachment and make all the other ones too shit to be playablebullgyrns will be the first for the points increaseevery silver liner comes with a cloud
>>97133384Hey, they might also nerf the detachment rules to oblivion like they did with Ynnari who now have a 30% win rate
>>97133384Except the last major data slate is coming out next week so if they're OP they'll get to stay that way for a while.
Niggas always say that they want to play something different but what? Infinite is ass, Hero/Frostgrave is ass, Offbrand 40k is meh at best, old 40k is jank as fuck and you have to deal with grognards at best.
>>97133407>old 40k is jank as fuckSpoken like a newfag that hasn't even read the old rules.
>>97133420But enough about you
only /v/ermin hates Primaris Marines, firstbornes are pure shitprove me wrongprotip: you can't
>>97133407>but whatBattleTech
>>97133407BATTLEFLEET GOTHIC
>>97132953>smaller boardsThis fucking annoys me. There's way too many models crammed into the space they want you to play in. I just expand the battlefield whenever me and my buddies play.
>>97133432Not just that, they keep making bases unnecesarily big or giving bases to models that don't need them, making it even more cramped.
>>97133431Good luck finding games
>>97133440You can print and paint a whole fleet in a week for 20€ if that's not low barrier enough to convince someone to try it I don't know what will.
>>97133424I hate the lore of Primaris Marines and even I will admit they are super enjoyable to actually model and paint
>>97130274>What are you working on?Printing thousands of dollars’ worth of bootleg minis for pennies on my Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra 16k and flooding my local games club with cheap models. I don’t even make money doing it. I just do it because GW told me I wouldn’t be missed.
>>97133445How are they any more enjoyable to model and paint than literally any other marine?>they are biggerSo is every marine released since the DW vets that's not exclusive to primaris.
>>97133424I unironically don't like the look of old warhammer minis. There, I said it. They look cheap and weirdly squatted.
>>97133454go back to /v/
>>97133145It's friendship simulation. Some people would prefer the company of a bro that yells at them and acts bombastic, and other people would prefer the company of people that speak softly. I guess . I dunno, I listen to horror-babble when I paint, or Napoleonic documentaries
>>97133426thats actually ass to fully play.
>>97133471You haven't given me a reason.
Got started on the night lord apothecary
>>97133445Its the limb lengthening surgery bit that makes me cringe.
>>97133183Sisters of battle arent supposed to have the black carapace
>>97133538Tell that to GW
>>97133531I just dont' get the appeal. Their whole thing is that they are better space marines at everything but then they do the exact same as any space marine has ever done so it just comes off as self grandeur or a sanic level OC.
>>97130938Good to see a black guy not playing Salamanders or Celestial Lions.
>>97133538>>97133539Apparently those are subdermal connectors, not an actual black carapace. The armor of sisters have neuro ports too.
>>97133444Where do you get your STL's? You've sold me
>>97133407Halo flashpoint is great
>>97131199Good job! Much respect, keep it up, looking forward to the completed model.
>>9713354340k writing is 90% super soldiers who are the best at everything (except for the other super soldiers in other codexes)
>>97133557I have the soulforge studios fleets but he no longer sells them. You can buy them here or search around for the files. There's a telegram channel with all of them.https://cults3d.com/en/users/SpaceCowboys/3d-models
>>97133598Yeah but primaris are comparing themselves with space marines. The codex will say primaris are so strong they can crush a man's skull with their bare hands... as if marines weren't doing that already. They'll say how much better they are than normal marines but then not do anything actually better outside of rubicon asspulls like lazarus or titus.
Besides the Armageddon Steel Legion and in some accounts the Tallarns, what are some Imperial Guard regiments in the canon that have tanks as their explicit gimmick/hat/focus the way the Armageddon lads do, etc.
>>97133346I'm so surprised that GW released a guard detachment that ended up being exactly what I wanted for guard, especially with how mediocre the night lords one looks>Not excluding Ogryn units from the army rule for no reason>Giving commissars actual things to do other than stand around for either secondaries or screening>Letting Bullgryns be a threat on the board then sticky an objective to go bother another objectiveI guess I could technically complain about shooty Ogryns not really benefitting from this but I figure I can just stick them in a chimera and pretty much get the same bonuses for them, maybe even the +1 AP one
what's with all the focus on battleshock for the new detachments?Is this a preview for what 11th edition is going to be like?
>>97133636God I hope not. They should copy the hell out of the heresy's morale system. Battleshock sucks so much.
>>97133636They should remove battleshock because nobody thinks their guys running away without doing anything is cool
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>>97133689That's a stupid argument. Nobody thinks their guys dying is cool either but they still need to die for the game to work. Having actual morale that affects troops making them run away or get supressed or immobilized in some way is a good thing because it offers tactical alternatives to deal with threats otside of just killing them.
>>97133696Tau
>>97133696Surely when we do make a new thread it won't be yet another coomer OP image... Right?
I'm painting Baharroth
>>97133721Nobody but you cares
>>97133722Good low tier monster.
>>97133656They should change some of the Battleshock effects from abilities that trigger tests to: "That unit makes a Battleshock test. On a failed test they are stunned. On a successful test they are instead pinned/suppressed".
>>97133721The kind of fag that shoves softcore porn into everything is the same kind of fag that will sit there waiting to do it again
>>97133636>>97133689>>97133656just finished a game and like only 1 unit failed a battleshock. its such a weak sauce mechanic. they should definitely add things to failed units like negatives to hit (can't be ignored), negatives to movement.I think they should add FEAR to the core rules as well. -1 to leadership for being near monsters, titanic units, and of course CHAOS SPAWN
>>97133450Righteous
>>97133741That would get pretty convoluted real fast. That's why the core rules have stuff like USRs to define those mechanics. It's best if they incorporate morale effects as a core mechanic and then they just write a single word like routed or surpressed when they want to use it instead of having to define and explain it every single time.
>accidentally sucked up a Neurogaunt with the vacuum cleaner and it broke into 3 pieceshopefully I can glue humpty dumpty back together without it looking too off
>>97133636>>97133656>>97133741>>97133783I was incredibly pissed off by Psychic Scream as a Nid player, it’s absolutely the weakest army ability. They need to stop letting people who hate Nids design their codexes. I miss 4th edition bros I really do.
>>97133817I liked when nid weapons used the attacks and strength from the parent creature.
>>97133543It kinda reeks of the "looney toonz extreme" thing or whatever that shit was called
Instead of squatting firstborn, GW should have abandoned 40K and created Warhammer 41,000, which is when new tech like hover tanks and Primaris emerged. 11th edition is 99% guaranteed to be a shitfight on release and I fully expect multiple armies to be soft-squatted, forcing players to rebut their armies. As a long term player I am no longer interested in having hundreds of dollars worth of models rendered unplayable because GW board of directors would have to get a slightly cheaper variety of hookers and blow otherwise.>>97133796Thanks. I’m trying to be the change I want to see in the world. Doesn’t help that GW has been gouging my nation for decades and that the local GW redshirt is a bit of a Fat Bastard.
>>97133984Thanks for the blogpost
>>97133984>I fully expect multiple armies to be soft-squattedWhy would you expect this
>>97134027Because it sounds bad. Notice he didn't give any examples
>>97133620My regiment. Baron Starlock's Heavy Horse. They are a Freeblade Mechanized Regiment that specializes in heavy tank squadrons, titan hunting, and the excessive use of holy promethium to cleanse trench lines.
>>97133984>Mentally stunted individual spends time inventing scenarios to make himself mad
>>97134039I'm assuming he's one of the retards that watches that eceleb and just parrots whatever he says
>>97134027>>97134032NTA but Chaos Daemons and Deathwatch are still on an index and are not getting a codex in 10th. They will likely be removed in 11th. Although this isn't a guarantee, there are patterns with how GW handle armies across its games (Beastmen removal from AoS to cram it into Old World, for example) that suggest this is the path they'll take. Assuming they've depleted stock to their satisfaction, remaining firstborn marines tactical squads, devastator squads, and possibly anything based on the rhino chassis) will disappear with the Space Marine codex at/near launch of 11th.
>>97133620Steel Legion aren't about tanks, they're mechanised infantry. Meaning they're about dudes riding chimeras.The ones who are about tanks are called "armored regiment".
This is a way better advertisement for space marines and it's a fucking parody. Why is GW dropping the ball so hard?
>>97133984>and that the local GW redshirt is a bit of a Fat Bastard.Now when you say fat bastard, how do you mean that?
>>97134065DW got a killteam, they are going to be in 11th as part of the Agents. GK will later also be folded into the Agents as part of their refresh.
>>97134065>NTA
>>97134067You're right. My Armored Regiment has a mechanized support squadron within it, but the core of the regiment are the tank squadrons.
>>97134065So an army that no one plays will be modified in a way that makes more sense and Death Watch will be called Imperial Agents instead
>>97134103No one asked
Age of Smegma
>>97134108hey buddy there are dozens of daemons players dozens of us
>>97134121Wrong general, friend.
>>97134121take your console war bullshit to /wfg/ or whatever shithole you crawled out of
>>97134136sry
>>97134119I asked, you fat cunt.
>>97134065They should remove daemons it's an ugly army and is complete nonsense, AoS handles chaos so much better we should just do the same thing with 40k
>>97134144Age of Semen
>>97134027>Why would you expect thisBecause GW are incredibly greedy and the Primaris experiment proves they can simply squat entire lines to force players to rebuy their armies?
>>97134174Making a new product isn't an experiment it's called a business
>>97134174>force players Nothing's stopping anyone from running an old SM army now, besides your autism over calling X unit a different name now
>>97134078He’s fat and he’s a bastard, he’s friendly to kids and parents getting started, and to the regulars who drop $100/week. But if you’re an occasional purchaser or he knows you play something other than GW he has no time for you.
>>97134195>the GW employee prioritizes GW customers and is friendly to childrenSounds like a real evil scumbag, I can't imagine why he doesn't like the obnoxious retard who goes out of his way to talk about his 3D printer and that he won't buy anything anymore
>>97134195>and to the regulars who drop $100/week.We tlaking computer programmers and lawyers or we talkin works at wendys but lives with his mom?
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