Primal edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>97706060>Thread Question:What's your favourite unit from your least favourite army?
>TQTrebuchet in bretonnia. Everything else can suck it.
>>97717668>tqI think the Shugengen Lord on Longma is very cool
>>97717737>doesnt post the actual modeltelling!
Beastmen chads! We’ve won! Another day of victory for the beastmen
After a long break I found a club within driving distance and will even have a game on Thursday. I'll bring my empire against chaos warriors. Was planning o running a lot of cavalry, inner circle knights, ambushing road wardens and demigryphs.
>>97717758Godspeed anon, may Taal bring victory to your warriors.
>>97717668>TQCathay: Magistrate (on foot)Dark Elves: ShadesLizardmen: Skinks
New drawing of Chaos Trolls from the latest AJ. These don't exactly match any trolls we have so far, and could indicate new trolls and what they could look like.
>>97717849They look kinda cartoony, wouldnt be bad if they werent edgy. Also nose rings are the gayest fucking thing ever. There, I said it.
>>97717737longma dick fag
>>97717870I think you're just being negative for the sake of it. Much of the early TOW art was cartoony, what we are getting now is not cartoony. The drawing style has shifted to a more grounded realistic form.
>>97717743The model is great barring the ridiculous top knot which is an easy fix simply by headswapping. Provides a large canvas for vibrant colorful paint jobs.
>>97717920
ToW needs more land/sea naval action
Reminder not to engage the troll, report him for off topic spam and move on.
>>97717890>I think you're just being negative for the sake of it.Im just calling it out for what it is. Im also getting chaos fatigue. >Much of the early TOW art was cartoony,Fucking where? There was some bad art maybe but at least it was cohesive with tow as a whole between the box arts and aj art work.
>>97717920Im gonna be real I like the base more than the mount itself.
>>97717668>What's your favourite unit from your least favourite army?Basically cheating but whatever.Chaos is really lame but a cool monster is a cool monster.
>>97717920>shitting on topknot kino in WarhammerFake nigga
>>97717953is that blood and plunder? I've seen my store carry some of its stuff but I never really gave it much thought even though I fucking love pirates.
>>97717668Warlions and warlion chariot.
>>97717990I like topknot kino but some of Cathay's topknots go a little too far
>>97717981That's a really cool sculpt. But it's resin right? That probably means we won't see it as an MTO as pretty much all the MTO's have been metal right?
>>97718041We won’t see it because chaos has waned in power.
>>97717965Why do you samefag the same exact line after all your posts every single time?
>>97718048It wanes for now...in the future it waxes
>>97718041Yeah it was one of the Forgeworld models
>>97717849im pretty sure that was also in the Westerland AJ as well
>>97717668>TQThe Grail Reliquae is just about the only thing remotely interesting in the Bretonnia range.
>>97717849>and could indicate new trollsit doesn't
>1500 points small event >7th edition rulebook>6th edition army books and expansionsAny tips from players that used to play that edition?
>>97718006The high elf range really suffers from spearmen and archers being ancient, otherwise it is great.
>>97717748For 25 bucks cheaper you can have all the STL's to print pretty much the entire beastmen roster.>I think they look better then the GW sculpts but that is just me.https://bestiarumgames.com/products/beastman-horde-stl-collection
>>97718260They’re kinda cringe. The helmets are all dorky and lame.
>>97718233>Advice Expect to have a lot more fun than you would by playing TOW. You'd have even more fun playing 3e though. You'll have the most amount of fun if you and your opponent go into the fight with a little backstory on why you're fighting this specific battle, and make a thematic table to match itHave fun buddy
>>97718267Nah the helmets are fantastic in concept, they just need to be brought up to modern standards. The worst part of the ancient HE spears/archers isn't even the heads it's the massive ogre hands.
>>97718280Can you post a single timestamped Fantasy model? I don't believe you play or have ever played or even own Fantasy models of any era.
>>97718284They’re literal cone heads. It’s corny. The ornaments don’t make them better either.
>>97718295Fuck off perrynigger
>>97718284Don't bother, he simply has shit taste.
>>97718335>no modelsThought so. Shoo shoo troll>>97718329The cone heads are super kino and suitably Warhammer silly imo. You can look at Swordmasters as modernish kits that use the coneheads that look really good. The art looks great too, the concept is good. They just need to be modernized because the old HE core is simply extremely old. Modernized but not changed in concept.
>>97718295What did he even say that upsets you?
>>97718382Why are those horses necks so long lmfao>>97718385He implied an older edition is better than ToW, and this nuGW fans simply cannot abide
>>97718385Nothing, I think it's just the troll spreading more negativity. He stopped his his angle and now he's just going to be negative in general. If it's someone who enjoys earlier editions of fantasy genuinely it's very simple for him to produce a single timestamped model, but he can't so instead like here >>97718394 he will write many more posts dodging posting models because he doesn't own any.His goal is simply to spread negativity regarding here in any way he can, hence why the easiest way to out him is to ask him to do something he can't, produce a single model.
Is the Nagash book by Mike Lee any good? I haven’t even started the Sigmar book yet, but I know I probably should nab these tomes before they disappear forever.
>>97718382They’re not silly, just dumb. Dark elves at least hide it well and wood elves do away with it entirely thankfully.
>>97718410>but I know I probably should nab these tomes before they disappear foreverThat's why I bought them, they are still on my backlog of reading. But for $25 I grabbed them without thinking so that in the future I don't have to spend 5 times that on ebay.
>>97718335Schizo lol
>>97718449It's just the troll trying to spread confusion. Ignore him
The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. New WoC sculpts approach.
>>97718469Only thing that could interest me are plastic skinwolves.
>>97718478Horrors crypts with a headswap
>>97718412nta, but I think they can look cool. Didn't post when it was the thread topic, but this pic got me into Warhammer I think.Maybe just decrease the exaggeration on some models and it would be fine.
>>97718622forgot pic, lol
>>97718634I really need to start finding the 8th edition army books, lots of really nice art in those books on really high quality prints. I only have the TK one so far because I refuse to pay ebay prices.
>>97718427This might shock you but all BL novels are in fact 100% free.
>>97718729Yeah but I simply can't read on tablets or on PC. Screens are soulless compared to the feel of a book in your hands.
>>97718729>>97718746>grown men reading junior fiction novels
>>97717849Why are trolls size so inconsistent? Sometimes they are maybe a head or so taller than a human and other times, they look bigger than even ogres, like pic related which looks around 12-15 feet. Fucking massive beasts.
>>97718772The simplest explanation is simply GW being inconsistent throughout the decades. In universe you could explain it in multiple ways. Chaos Trolls of course being mutated and warped and allowed to grow larger than normal trolls because of the warping effects of chaos. But other breeds of trolls probably have different baseline sizes, which then further can vary by nutrition during the developmental phases of their growth. Kind of like how humans hundreds of years ago were much shorter than we are today simply because of poorer nutrition but having the same genes.
>>97718797Yeah that makes sense honestly. Still, as much credit as pther monsters get, I think trolls are underrated. Both in fluff and tabletop. They get killed regularly by troll slayers and such but "objectively" based off the TT extraction, they're stronger than minos and ogres and supposedly one troll is enough to get a village to relocate. Also i think even Alien tier acidic vomit would threaten even chaos warriors. Hell just recently im planning on fielding them. Saw 4 trolls tear asunder a unit something serious.
>>97718772they aren't any more inconsistent than all other monstrous creatures
>>97718762You're really not as subtle as you think you are.
>>97718824>They get killed regularly by troll slayersall troll slayers have slain, or at least fought, some kind of troll, but not all would be troll slayers do
>>97717999I want some of these as handgunners.
Does anyone have the Citadel Skulls kit and a Skeleton Warriors model for comparison? Making agnostic Skeletons is the goal, and some head variety would be neat.
What exactly is Ghur? I know it's lore of beasts and all, but why is it separate from Gyhran? How is beasts a separate quantity from life?
>>97718824>>97718888Most slayers literally die by hands of trolls. Dwarf slayers literally hunt trolls because they are very tough opponent.Unless we are talking here about slayers that explicitly call themselves troll slayers for killing a troll.
>>977190122008 GW skeletons are the best, but they're hard to come by these days so the next best thing is Oathmark skeletons with Citadel skull box heads
>>97718409>troll spreading negativity Genuinely what was negative about my post? I posted an honest opinion and wished that anon to have fun, and the only negativity came from your absurd reaction. Secondly I have fantasy models, but I don't feel any compulsion to go set them up and snap a pic with timestamp whenever some random ass anon demands
>>97718797>>97718824their whole regeneration shtich would lead to a good variation in size too. given that its rate of regeneration is not presented as uniform.
>>977190127th ed skeleton warriors are the same skulls as the skull kit
Yeah that's the 2008 skeleton kit (sovl)
>>97719242Very convenient comparison, thanks for the info. >>97719062If they did re-release them for TOW I probably would shamelessly consoom them.
Just buy the wga skeletons
>>97719062>>97719327For the sake of my wallet. May Vampire Counts be far far away. If they release the 7th edition skeletons I will go full paypig and focus on making a list that uses as many of those skeletons as possible. They are unironically my favorite GW kit of all time but they are SO expensive on ebay.
>>97719381Look for old start collecting kits. They’re still selling the horses too. Personally I think they’re fucking awful to assemble.
>>97719381I wonder what happened to the anon who had like multiple thousands of them on sprues
>>97719381Recasters have them anon. I got 30 of them for like 20 euros
>>97719381With the benefit of hindsight I would have bought so many of these
>>97719487>16 miniatures >$80 Thanks for the "deal" GW >>97719381Thank God I picked up a ton of these for PENNIES on eBay when they killed WHFB >>97719344These are dog shit. If you're going 3rd party get the Oathmark ones
>>97719508>dogshit Concur. Wargames Atlantic ones are one of the worst on the market
Unusable trash, or interesting modeling idea?
>>97719559Same category as tactical rocks. I don't like 'em.
>>97718260You can easily swap the arms with historical kits.
>>97719559This doesn't look like "magical effects" it looks like some moron glued a cake stand to a tranime figurine >>97719591Why is he one of those Amazon Prime video elves?
>>97718233>empire>6eAnon, I'm so sorry.
>>97719609Because I felt like it.
Chaos has come to the Old World once again in yet another tournament! This time, I played three games at my usual haunt using my usual list. 2000 points of Warriors of Chaos, with a juiced to the gills daemon prince with the Ogre Blade, Armour of Meteoric Iron, and four levels of wizardry and Dark Magic, a sorcerer lord who exists solely to cast Steed of Shadows and The Summoning, an exalted champion with the Cackling Blade, a big block of 19 chaos warriors, 10 marauders with flails, some dogs, five chosen knights, and a chariot. The first battle of the day was against the much (and rightfully so!) maligned Wild Herd. My opponent had two great shamans, three less great ones, a beastlord, and a bsb, along with just a shitload of gors and ungors, two razorgors (who were plague toads), some harpies, and a herdstone. For once, I did not deploy like a total donkey, my warriors were protected on their flanks by my knights and my chariot and my marauders were keeping my sorcerer lord safe while my daemon prince and his little retinue of forsaken held the left side of the board. We were fighting over our baggage trains and three objectives in the middle of the board. Naturally, as I was playing Chaos, I ran everything up as far as I could on turn one, including Dehumanizer, my daemon prince. This would wind up being a catastrophic mistake, as I foolishly (and very smugly) flew Dehumanizer a little too close to the herdstone and the four shamans clustered around it. Suffice to say, he was not able to dispel the Viletide cast at +4 that was sent his way, and with an obscene roll of 22 hits and 8 6s to wound, he was sent shrieking back to the Realm of Chaos on the first turn of the game! Even his mighty 4++ save could do nothing to stop the bugs and spiders biting him to death. 495 points, damn near a quarter of my army, gone before it could do literally anything. A painful blow to be sure, but surely things had to get better from here.
>>97719559That looks awful and in no way does that work for Warhammer considering the weight of glass.
>>97719676But no! No they didn't! Everything just got worse! More Viletides were cast and my chariot exploded in a wave of gnawed timber and corroded metal, which is to say nothing of the horses and the crewmen, who didn't even have time to scream (or whinny) in horror as every last one of their orifices was filled with bugs while my sorcerer lord hung on for dear life with a single wound remaining. Not even my warriors and Ormos, my exalted champion, were able to do anything to the horde of gors, led by two great-shamans, a beastlord and a BSB, and not only did they run screaming for their mothers after a single round of combat they were caught and cut down while doing so. Pathetic! At least my knights, dogs, and marauders were putting up a good fight, with the knights and dogs annihilating a dragon ogre shartak and a razorgor and my marauders making agonizingly slow work of a pack of harpies. Suffice to say, the game was a disaster, but a very fun start to the day. My opponent was a great dude who would go on to win the entire tournament, so perhaps this was just bad luck. Game 2 would surely be different!
>>97719676>>97719726SOVL writeup. Loving hearing about Dehumanizers tales on the battlefield, even when he ends up as bug food. Beastmen are probably the strongest army in the game right now if you're just looking at Wild Herd. Chin up.
>>97719726Hard luck brother. Though I am happy to see you are still chaosing it up unlike me. Hope Dehumanizer got to kill stuff up good.
>>97719676How did that big AoS rock get placed on top of that cobblestone road
>>97719787One of the minotaurs pulled it out of their ass after they were done using it as a butt plug.
>>97718233>7th edition rulebook>6th edition army books Why not just play 6th?
>>97719726And it did. Sort of, for a while at least. I was up against an army I had faced before, a force hailing from Cathay that had been supplemented by the new wizard model, some peasants, and a second sky lantern. I won't sugar coat it: I fucked up real bad! I underestimated how quick a hot air balloon could be and blundered away Dehumanizer once again by having him fly over a house only to get promptly double charged by a sky lantern and a shugengan lord who just so happened to have a magic weapon seemingly designed to just shit on daemon princes. No saves for Dehumanizer, not today, and he got clarted immediately. Once again, he died on the first turn. From there, my luck seemed to be taking a turn for the better, as one of my opponent's artillery pieces misfired and exploded and the rest of his shooting failed to inflict a single wound on any of my models for two turns. Unfortunately, this turn of events was not enough, as on turn four his cannons exploded my chariot (Seriously, that stupid thing has not done anything in 14 games now. It's inflicted a sum total of 7 impact hits since I painted it! I hate it!) Oh yeah, and his special Cathay wizard, who gets to re-roll spellcasts for some reason, just got to cast whatever he wanted for the whole game because Sathulon, my sorcerer lord, is a useless boob. His incompetence would finally come to an end when he got flattened by a cannonball. However, don't take this salt-filled post to be indicative of anger. My opponent was a lovely player and taught me a lot during the game about what I was doing wrong and how I should be playing if I wanted to win. Great guy! I've played him several times now and each game has been a lot of fun. Again, a horrible loss for Chaos, though I did manage to score something like 900 points off of objectives and that cannon misfiring and exploding itself. Oh yeah, and my chosen knights avenged Dehumanizer by barely eking out a kill after three rounds of combat. On to game 3!
>>97719802My man this is near parody levels of bad luck. How did the Chosen knights not disintegrate whatever they touched?
>>97719802Why is there a Yu-Gi-Oh card on that hot air balloon?
>>97719849NTA but that's a magic style card (I think?) and it's almost certainly used as a spell card. Probably a custom printed spell card because GW are silly billies who don't sell the spell cards as evergreen products.
>The elf concentrated upon the armoured rider. ‘He is certainly their leader. I don’t think he is a Bretonnian, however. His skin is too dark.’Whoa you can't say that
>>97719591I like the weapons, but what's with white British males always painting their Warhammer minis as niggers? I see it all over insta, it's literally always soft white British guys
>>97719895They know their betters.
>>97719802Let me preface this post by saying that game 3 was both infuriating and extremely cool. I was up against someone who had brought their lovingly painted historical army (War of the Roses, iirc) out to give TOW a try and I had a great time. This being said, holy shit, I have no idea how Dehumanizer got to become a daemon prince, because this useless twat took four turns to kill a measly human general, represented by a model of Joan of Arc. Four turns! This flying butthole of a daemon "prince" was wielding the Ogre Blade and he took four turns to kill some woman riding a horse! All while he was hanging on with a single wound, because, naturally, a historical army has a lot of shooting and he just refused to pass any of his saves. 5+/4++/5+++ means nothing if your dice betray you. Oh yeah, and after killing Joan, he still lost combat and got exploded by his patented daemonic instability. Anyway, my daemon prince's incompetence set aside, the rest of the game was super sick. The scenario had us deploy on the corners of the table and we were fighting over baggage trains and the bog in the center of the board. As you can probably expect, my warband just got shot to death a lot. My knights fought valiantly on the left flank and actually managed to chase some of the knights off the board. Meanwhile, my chariot charged into some sellswords, inflicted zero wounds, fell back in good order, and then got shot to death. My sorcerer lord finally managed to cast something and sent my warriors hurtling across the field of battle on ghost horses, but that did literally nothing besides move them up 3" away from my opponent's gun (bow?) line and I shouldn't need to explain what happened next. The handful of warriors who didn't get their wigs split by bolts and arrows got impaled by spears while my marauders, who were cowering behind that house, got run down by the knights after taking three turns to kill some light cav. Another crushing defeat!
>>97719901I hate to say it but that’s the best looking army I’ve seen you post
>>97719895You need a license to paint them all white. And getting one is racist.
>>97719915You're a manlet LMAO
>>97719802>one single lone building randomly placed in the middle of a giant paved street with no other structures in sight Listen, I am genuinely getting of tired of complaining itt, but I am sincerely baffled how anyone sets up that table and thinks it's fun to play on. Its like everyone playing this game is under a spell that makes them incapable of making decent table setups. Literally from DAY ONE of playing Warhammer as a kid until today my opponents and I have always tried our hardest to make the battlefield look cool and have never once cared about balancing it.
>>97719849Looks like a custom magic card
>>97719802How did that guy get all his peasants assembled so fast didn't they just come out like 2 days ago?!
>>97719901You played against Perryfag?! How was he irl?
>>97718469Is that new art or old art?
>>97719963Lol seriously
>>97719984Older art. I honestly don't remember from where.
>>97719901However, despite these three absolute failures, I somehow managed to not come in last place! Second to last is an improvement over how I usually perform in these tournaments, so that's nice. Anyway, some prizes were raffled after the event and I won an empire watchtower kit. I will be converting it into a chaos tower eventually, when I get around to it. Some final thoughts on this event: I don't know what's going on with my daemon prince, my sorcerer, and my chariot, but they just suck. They never do anything! Yeah, sure, I fucked up by being too cocky with Dehumanizer's positioning, but he literally did nothing even when I used him semi-correctly! Four wounds vanish in the blink of an eye even with a potent and borderline obscene 5+/4++/5+++ save. My wizards just never cast anything and they can't dispel worth a shit either. Sathulon got off maybe 2 The Summonings over the course of three games and even those two casts only killed a handful of models. What else... Wild Herd is disgusting, chaos warriors are awful but I like them so I'll always use them, the Cackling Blade is super fun and even though I didn't bring it up in my posts it's by far my favourite magic weapon, and I had a lot of fun despite all my bitching and complaining. A great time was had by all! And I got my hands on some plastic unarmoured horses from the store the event was held in, so I will be painting up some marauder horsemen in the near future. I've been told by you animals (read: lovely anons) that horsemen are good, so I'll give them a try. Thanks for reading, sorry for taking up so many posts, enjoy the rest of your evening. Here's a collage of some more pictures from the event.>>97719967That is an insult to my opponent and I will not stand for it. Perryfag wishes he was 1% as cool as this guy was.
Is there anything upcoming either rumors or releases still in the queue to come out?
>>97720022Why? He's doing the exact same thing as Perryfag
>>97720027Ind
>>97720081He didn't make an ass of himself while doing it.
>>97720081He's actually playing warhammer fantasy games which already makes him infinitely more relevant to this thread than the perrylover could ever hope to be.The problem was never his choice of minis
>>97720081He actually plays Fantasy, unlike the malding midget
>>97719042Ghyran is mostly about plants and healing and shit. Ghur is about tearing shit up.
>>97719901those are HYW not WotR
>>97720022Your banner is incredibly kino.
>>97720088>>97720105>>97720112So we are just conceding you can play with whatever the hell models you want now and still call it warhammer fantasy?
>>97720150Yeah nigga. The scales all over the place along with the asthetics. Don’t feel guilty if you want to buy prints, or buy literal dollar store stuff if you feel it’s cool.
>>97720150No one ever said that you can't use non GW models to play Fantasy. We just rebuke Perrynigger because he doesn't play Fantasy or use his models for any kind of Warhammer. He's never once posted a photo of his alleged models on any bases that would be appropriate for Warhammer.Hence why he's persona non grata here. The problem isn't non GW models. It's him pushing non Fantasy models for non Fantasy games in a Fantasy general.
>>97720150Always has been the case broNow making a little diorama of your hyw toy soldiers and spamming those same 20 images while insisting against all reason it's a warhammer fantasy game on the other hand...
>>97720022Thank you fir the write ups chaos brother. Im the ex khorne guy here and I feel your pain. The DP seems pretty hard to get leverage out of, especially with his point cost. As insane as this sounds, perhaps the Chaos Daemonsword with Meteoric Iron could be an alt build with either undivided or mark of khorne with 0 levels? Make him a beatstick.
I do actually miss when Perry posted his skeletons
You guys would more effectively filter him by reporting his posts for off topic. A few people reporting should be enough to send him for a 3 day vacation. Let him samefag and report that as well.
>>97720227Thanks for the tip genius, could you kindly show us what posts you think are actually his?
White Lions anon here. I finished my next 20 and am now up to 40
>>97720251From the back. I painted like 80 gems today,
>>97720251
>>97720251Looks splendid. Have they fought yet?
>>97720251>>97720261Looks fantastic overall. The gems are on another level. Did you follow a tutorial?
>>97720269>just finished I certainly hope now
>>97718280Not what I was hoping for, but thanks I guess.>>97719626What?>>97719798Apparently they prefer 7th edition rules but 6th edition power levels (especially since not everyone got an update in 7th), or so they say.
>>97720214I was in that thread when he happily posted his first pic with his knights fighting skeletons and everyone ruthlessly mocked him. I wonder if we created a villain that day and if things could have been different
>>97720269The previous 20 yes.>>97720264I dont get that one>>97720275I used the one from Mattshobbyhour on youtube. I think i also just got a hand for it. Pic rel is my first ever gem.
>>97720329>I used the one from Mattshobbyhour on youtubeCheers I will check him out. I really like HE but I am stopped from starting them because of the spearmen/archers. Once they refresh those I am ready.
>>97719712> Thinking those are glassFucking retard
>>97719726> Four characters in a fucking unitThis is why we need German Comp.Fucking disgusting shit.
Friendly reminder to never order anything from EOE Orbis>>97719012I used Citadel skulls with Wargames Atlantic skeleton bodies. Be aware that the WGA box comes with limited weapons options (and puddle bases). Arms from the older GW skeleton kits are easy to adapt to the WGA box, so you have some options.
>>97719798Because they have actually played the game and know that with 6th books were kino, that edition needed some quality of life improves which 7th provided.However, 7th edition gave us Matt Ward army books, which some, like daemons, proceeded to immediately break the fucking game
>>97719802> Unpainted models > Two cannons shoved on a tiny nub of a hillHoly cancer bat man!!!
>>97720261Fucking KINO
>>97719591Dark Elves are in Age of Smegma m8. You have to go back.
>>97719676how did he have a beastlord and 2 great brays? In any case, 5 mages with herdstone is WAAC. 5 orc weirdboys would also be just about as deadly with gaze of gork, but that extra from the herdstone pushes it over. I've killed more models with one gaze than I've ever killed with one hagtree viletide. That said, 8 wounds on a cast is obscene luck.
>>97720530I made a mistake, it was one great bray-shaman and three regular shamans. Also, upon further review, I did not come in second to last place, Idefinitely placed dead last by a mile. Unfortunate, but at least I won the raffle. There is justice in the world after all!Also, semi-related, are slayer host armies allowed to bring 14 doomseekers? I thought you were limited to 3 of any one unit. One guy brought all those doomseekers and he did really well.
i like warhammer fantasy and alcohol and nicotine and thc vape and yummy food
>>97720708Me too, but over the last year I quit nicotine (very difficult) and thc (started having anxiety from weed)
Does anyone know what happened when this guy ran into the imperishable after they turned into mummified people?https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/PharI want to use him in my Tomb Kings fanfiction, but I’m not sure what his exact relationship with Settra should be. I’m thinking that after wronging his descendants, Settra finally achieves a decisive victory over him—one that isn’t cheapened by simply outliving him since they’re both mummies now. However, Settra allows Phar to remain King of Mahrak, seeing him as a worthy adversary who can be trusted to rule well, accept his defeat, and be wise enough not to side with the Necromancer against him. It would create a dynamic similar to what I often see in Dynasty Warriors: antagonistic, but with a grudging respect between them.
>>97720663Doom seekers are hilarious. But I do believe you can take a huge number of them. If they're truly naked, they are 50 pts each and 1000 pt limit, so 20.Also, you only get points if they are still alive at the end of the game instead of killing them. Slayer host can run an army that roughly 1400 of their own pts have to die for them to win.
>>97720708>>97720730Same energy. You guys are pathetic
>>97720868The guy said he successfully quit two drugs and you're calling him pathetic? Are you retarded? Did you just kneejerk reply without actually reading? Did you just discover that image and have been raring to post it all day?
>>97720907I appreciate the backup anon but it's not worth responding to the manlet. Let him seethe to himself impotently. I can quit substances, but he can never make himself taller.
>>97720868The joke of this image is that the poster is describing himself.Note that he talks about pseudointellectualism whilst namedropping philosophers to sound smart, and projects a very 4chan-user view on paraphilic pornography.
>>97720933Didn't even read the bottom rant, I was comparing anon to the top pic >>97720907OMG what a hero, so brave! This grown ass man finally got around to stop smoking weed! Stunning and brave
>>97713153>All the 4/5th edition dwarf sculpts absolutely mog the fuck out of the current dwarfsSame with Brets, both knights and peasants. I'm using 4th/5th edition knight heads exclusively, but I've settled for Claymore Castings infantry because $120 for 10 infantry is the most semitic pricing I've ever seen, and I don't want manlet recasts.>>97715875Brexiles allow for this, and that should be standard for all of Bretonnia, like it used to be.>>97716023Oldhammer Bretonnia had crossbows and cannons.
>>97717668Anyone have a pet sub faction they really have an attachment too?Ive for a long time been partial to the knights of the everlasting light. they have like 3 blurbs across the whole of warhammer fantasy, but something about them just draws me to them. Me being a fan of white blue and gold doesn't hurt, being a fan of Verena the goddess of truth and justice, and the fact that they are the default inner circle knights for some reason in the BOTET mod for medieval 2. But really its the core schtick of them being an order of don quixotes. They are particularly chivalrous and concerned with just conduct and lost causes, but they are cursed with bad luck. whatever they do they are likely to get a splinter in the two or a troll butt to the head. But it will be a glorious series of unfortunate events whatever it is.I also just like the idea that things inexplicably break or go tits up wherever they go. for anyone involved, friend or foe. like they have an aura of bad luck that affects EVERYONE in their vicinity. So they might be treated like the plague. Though potentially a useful plague if they are in the midst of enemies and a meteor inexplicably strikes their exact coordinates. Often having a "well if I am doomed, might as well bring a few foes down with me" attitude. A little Slayer like. But a little less grim and a little more fatalistically jolly. Like a jolly British officer who just so happens to break his leg and have building collapse around him more often than seems reasonable. "Keep a stiff upper lip chaps!"
I have always been flabbergasted by adults who smoke weed. I don't know, I guess I have always seen it as a low income activity for teenagers, niggers, and other welfare receipts/poorfags
>>97720975If I get the chance to play WFRPG, I would love to create a "misfortune" table that kind of acts like a "miscast" table for them. ranging from "No matter how much you polish your armor, there is a little smudge that will not disappear" to "A meteor is bond to impact your position in t minus 5 minutes".
>>97719591Kill yourself
>>97720975>>97721019Kinda off topic but I really really hope the next edition of TOW makes the miscast table much larger and much nastier. It's far too forgiving currently.
>>97721047Agreed. Misfire is fine, miscast is utterly inconsequential even for my retarded madlad Outcast Wizard.
>>97721047I agree, I have an entire laundry list of improvements for the game that not a single player would hate. But alas, TOW is but a vehicle to sell us models and gw has no interest in making a perfect game
>>97721059It seems like a pretty common complaint, they seem to listen, but very slowly. So I have hope for the future.
>>97721047Going down the hole should come back. They should also bring back power and dispel dice, as it presently stands the miscast table is neutered to the point of being functionally irrelevant, especially if your wizard isn't in a unit, and there's no reason not to cast as many spells as you possibly can.TOW's entire magic system is currently paying for the sins 8th's spell lores committed. It doesn't have to be this way.
>>97720975>>97720975I think it's just a play on the idea that those who champion lost causes often fight losing battles
>>97721109I agree, I would also like the power and dispel dice to be reintroduced. But I don’t know if that’s a realistic change we can look forward too. I’m going to keep bringing up the miscast table as I think that’s realistic for next edition. And how they reign in wizards slinging multiple spells is beyond me. Channeling dice would be the clearest, but I think it’s complicated enough for GW to want to avoid it.
>>97721290well, they are not known for LOSING, just for bad luck. You are unlikely to die in your sleep as a knight of the everlasting light, more likely from a falling beam, or a trip down the stairs, but they seem to have still been militarily effective. I think the grandmaster was effective enough to have been considered to take on the de facto control of an elector count’s army, but the young count refused and lost due to his inexperience.
about how many points is in the new cathay box?
>>97722089I'm too lazy to count but the new book with all the points and options is in the OP so do the math yourself.
State missile troops should have access to blunderbusses, or there should be an option for veteran state missile troops that has access to them, along with more exotic weapons for sergeants. Wasn't there some forgeworld resin kit for a special nuln gunner unit that had breastplates?
>>97722303Nuln Ironsides, but they didn't have blunderbuses, they were a forge world upgrade kit
>>97719676>>97719726>>97719802Glad you still had fun but lol at all the disgusting WAACfaggotry.This is what fantasy is now.
>>97722330>This is what fantasy is now.
>>97722337You got me. I have a romantic view of the era I didn't play in.
>>97722311Yeah it's a cool concept that could be developed further.
>>97722341Magic was way way stronger in 8th. It’s not comparable to today.
>>97717737i've really been enjoying painting mine, but they need a unit to go with them like kirin riders or something. i've seen some people have prints so i know that kind of stuff is out there, and i have a printer, but without a profile you cant really do much for them, and even with the ability to print i still prefer to work with GW plastic most days if i can, and the old world stuff isnt usually crazy expensive pic not mine, just found on google
>>97717737>CathayIt's just not Warhammer
I’ll include Southlanders, Nipponese and Arabyans before I ever include a Cathayans in my WFRP game. Get ouuuutta here dude.
new bad
old good
if you own plastic models you are a zoomer secondary. metal only or you're not a real warhammer
>>97722744https://youtube.com/@yong-duke?si=OCriER8Z7ewNOjcVThis guy’s awesome
>>97722744Well post your models then
>>97722744So many of those old metal models look like absolute shit and I'm not cock addled by nostalgia so I can fucking admit it.
Metalfags are all talk till someone starts cutting and kitbashing the metal mini.
>>97722854It's your model, you can do whatever you want with it. That doesn't make the models from that time any less great than they already are. I do think there is a point to be made about historical preservation and, perhaps more importantly, the protection of your wallet, but that's a discussion for another time.
>>97722854I use limited ed models in my kitbashes without a second thought Models are meant to be opened, used, painted and gamed withSome hobbyists did not watch Toy Story 2 and it shows
>>97722311The idea of a heavily armoured blunderbuss unit is wonderful to me.I love the idea of a unit that can wade through enemy fire before unleashing a close range volley of death.Probably why I love chorfs
>>97722666This. It just feels like a soulless chink pandering faction
>>97722874I’m a zoomer collector. I’ve got a handful of metal minis and I adore them all, but to blind yourself from having the most fun possible due to nostalgia or some value calculation seems like the mindset that kills the hobby.
>>97722917I agree and I could also be described by those two terms, but it's something that you should still keep in mind. I've chopped up and converted some of my metal miniatures, don't get me wrong, but I do think there is some merit in keeping them as is, or at least in damaging them as minimally as possible. Cut away appendages/heads/whatever cleanly, hang on to the removed pieces, re-use them for something else, that sort of thing.
>>97722942I absolutely agree with you on the perservation part too. If not only for the price sometimes, the quality and love put into the mini deserve the right effort and skill, or it will be a real wasteful tragedy.
>>97722666agreed satan. warhammer is western fantasy for history enjoyers>>97722769falseall my favourite miniatures are hand-sculpted works of art cast in metal because i have a Soul
>>97723045>mass produced toys>artAlright
>>97723062art can be mass (re)produced
>>97717668quick concept sketch i made for a 150x90x30 meter WH40K skaven artillery ship. next to an imperial raider corvette from Star Wars, for scale...
>>97723062if i can go to a museum or gallery and be surrounded by miniature carvings/sculptures and miniature portraits and ships-in-bottles then why cant my minis be art >:^(is the literal art of warhammer not art because it’s reprinted over and over?
>>97723137>>97723211Only the original sculptures can be considered art.
Welcome to another episode of "anon wastes everybody's time on an annoying semantic game", a weekly show where some cunt fishes for gotchas with word pretzel distinctions that in fact have no difference
>>97723045A genuinely warhammer Cathay could exist, but it literally should be stereotypes of historical china cobbled together mixed with the farfetched accounts of explorers to the east in the middle ages and suchLike, it has to be a deliberately western view of the east, rather than a pandering to the east
>>97723316that would be more fitting, but too wacis for 2026. this old art is cooler than anything we got for tow
>>97722303Eh, IDK about base state handgunners, seems like too much of a specialized weapon.A special unit like the Ironsides >>97722311mentioned seems like a better fit.On the topic of specialized Empire units, I reember trying to form a all specialist Empire army In the Botet Total war mod, unfortunately a lot of them are sub-faction locked. I did get a few of them unlocked through a little coding, but got bored before I was finished. Blood Red Carroburge Greatswords with Blades of Ulric and Von Kragsburg Guard. Hockland Longrifles with Stir river patrol and Nuln gaurd.would have been rainbow renaissance Kino.
>>97722903Missed thread sigmarxist?
I've just realised that by gluing the riders I've made it impossible to apply transfers to the front of the horses.Maybe I'll paint some basic geometric shapes instead.
>>97723475Can you say that again in english?
>>97723316> stereotypes of historical china brother they are covered in dragon symbols, shoot fireworks for artillery, have giant paper lanterns, are led by noodly chinese dragons, and the peasants are straight out of the rice fields wearing straw hats and all.how much more stereotypical can you get?
>>97723579armies of fake soldiers made of terracottablood and bones of countless workers thrown in the brick and mortar of the wallopium wars between mercantile powersbloody internecine conflicts between rival dynasties claiming they have the mandate to rule from dragons that dwell so far in the heavens they barely interact with mena mixture of sorcerers with powers taken via dark means and snake oils salesmen everybody knows kung fu fighting
>>97719474Do tell about that, anon, where does one find those?
>>97723703this post reads like a bad ai generated youtube short
>>97723703>everybody knows kung fu fightingYou might be getting mixed up there, only in Uganda everybody knows Kung Fu
>>97723732That's because AI was trained on me, my least imaginative posts on 4chan are what bots look up to, if machines had souls, they would dream of my toenails and worship my very wastes thinking them the pinnacle of what could possibly be achieved, I spit on them and they bless the rain.
Did Nagash Giant Humongous magical action that created the tomb Kings other than Arkhan the Black supposed to kill everyone in the world to become Undead or just the people of Nehekhara ?
>>97723902just nehekara, the rest of the world would come later
>>97723496nice checkers
I feel like every cathay model needs putty for filling. The gaps are horrible on pretty much all of them. Usually with GW kits I can mostly get away with using enough plastic glue but not here.
Less than 10 days to go to Adepticon stream. I don't know if I can wait any longer. Show me the new warriors and knights.
>>97724153>more space marinesyay I can(t) wait....
>>97724209It must be exhausting being such a negative person all the time. What a sad way to live.
>>97724224oink-oink
>>97724224When they're wasting resrouces on something retarded instead of something that I can actually give a shit about yeah. I think Im entitled to be negative.
>>97724209TOW is probably GW's least Space Marine game they still publish along with MESBG and Bloodbowl
Since the specialist games’s thread is dead… I got my hands on some oldhammer metal Imperial dwarfs of all kinds, as well as two slayers, and I’m planning on making them into some Mordheim Treasure Hunters. Any tips on making them viable while retaining their Imperial-ness?
>>97724153We will get another cathay arcane journal
>>97724385Good, a few more and we might finally have an army book's worth of fluff.
>>97724385Nah we know what's in the pipeline for the near future and it isn't Cathay.
>>97723761Araby's mercenaries are indeed fearsome.
>>97724153Maybe you should pass the time by actually playing some games and painting your models
>>97724932I do paint and play other games but I am waiting for the WoC refresh to get into TOW. I’m in a league for another game that ends in 2 months so perfect timing to start Fantasy.
>>97724394won't be worth an armybook until an rpg supplement is allowed to throw shades at every facet of their society
>>97725120Nice, disregard then! What else you playin?
>>97725266MESBG, painting up Khazad-Dum in an escalation league I posted a pic in the specialist games thread of my last game a little while ago. >>97690192
I wonder why the Chaos Warshrine wasn't brought back...hmm.....
>>97725469Personally I think it’d be gay to just replace it with a mammoth. The kit was good for its bits too.
>>97725469same reason as the forsaken: it's because they are trying to paint the new undivided chaos as being still far from the proper gods
>On a noticeboard somewhere east of the Middle Mountains in OstlandNot sure if 500 is a too (or even low) high of an amount for the bounty on a beastlordDid this for fun after all.
>>97725469Savage orcs any day now!
>>97723703I don't mean to be mean but this is pretty retarded tbqhwy. The lore could definitely do to be dirtied up a bit, it's too sanitized for fear of offending xi, but the army itself I think is perfectly fine.
>>97725520I agree, Cathay doesn't have a design or aesthetic issue. All my problems with it lie in how they are written as boring bland mary sues.
>>97725539>Cathay doesn't have a design or aesthetic issuePersonally I find them to be over designed while still being wholly bland. It’s aggressively unremarkable.
>>97725469it is an abomination of a model and very unpopular, while shrines in TOW are generally shit anyway.
Lads i am torn. Torn about Ghouls.Do i paint them modern pale as the moon with blood stained forearms? 90's straight up human flesh? or classic lovecraft green ghoulies?I can't decide and its wobbling my jhonnies something fierce.
>>97725563I think the human flesh tone would be most disturbing.
>>97725563>Do i paint them modern pale as the moon with blood stained forearms? 90's straight up human flesh? or classic lovecraft green ghoulies?Mix it up with all three, would make a large group of them on the field look more vibrant, like if multiple groups of ghouls have amassed under the command of a vampire or necromancer
>>97725563you can have all 3 as long as you use bloody hands and fur on the back as unifying elements, especially if you use similarly desaturated tones
I have a lot of old chaos mini's, do I rebase them to TOW bases or just do a refurb and keep them om whfb size bases?
How the fuck do you people have the drive to continue doing something so consuming as warhammer when the passage of time is so fucking cumbersome? I’ve tried doing a kit a month but I feel like it’s wasted effort.
>Leakers are suggesting GW is going to announce Dark Elves and Vampire Counts returning to the older world this year.Maybe next year Ogrebros..
>>97725607You can buy converter trays so you can keep them on the smaller size if you prefer.
>>97725489Which is really stupid, because everything else they've written about Chaos in TOW ties it all straight back go the big 4. We don't get Great Chaos, we don't get Chaos Undivided, we don't get the Unnameable, all we get is "I'm an indecisive little bitch, so I choose to worship all four Chaos gods because that's what it takes to become the Everchosen!". Chaos Undivided used to mean something, man.I've ranted about this before. Several times, even. Perhaps I'm growing old. It's dumb. GW is stupid for attempting to do this. They're going to keep making Chaos lame out of either spite or retardation and I hate it. They had something special and then they pissed it all away during 6th. What a shame.
>>97725607Depends if you think the basing job was shit or not.
>>97725622I don't really care about DE but if VC are brought back (with 7th edition skeletons) I don't care if Ogres even return tbqh
>>97725563Nobody truly cares because they're not Space Marines, but different colors used to mean "different courts".White+Red were Morgaunt, the "we love the plebs" mass infantry faction (see the Crypt Haunter and Crypt Flayers on the webstore).Green+Grey were Hollowmourne, the "we are the noblest aristocrats" elite faction (see the Grymwatch)Grey + Tattoo were Gristlegore (the "all monsters of the menagerie" faction).Red burnt cracked skin was Blisterskin (the "we fly and worship the Sun" faction).I don't have the most recent battletome though.
>>97725634This is AoS lore and not at all related to Fantasy.
>>97725633Vampires dont surprise me because they are simply too popular at ToW events for GW not to see pound signs in their eyes, but man it just feels so odd that Ogres are mentioned so much as the arseholes outside cathays western walls to the point there are new ogres in the cathay army and its the OK gut place kind and to not get them back feels like a real blank space on the map y'know?
>>97725622>Vampire CountsRIP to Ogrebros but I’m hyped for this. I’m surprised Dark Elves haven’t already made the jump considering they still sell them with Square Bases and all.
>>97725637Its been a hot minute but werent Strigoi purple ones in WHFB?
>>97725645Strigoi weren't tied to a color scheme, they were one of the five ancient vampire bloodlines. They were the most feral vampires and kept the company of ghouls and were tied to the Strigany people (warhammer gypsies)
>>97725654Sounds like they didn’t have lore
>>97725656You can read the lore yourself https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Strigoi
>>97725641If the VC rumor is true, they’re probably waiting for the Ogre refresh in AoS before shipping them back to TOW. The range is literally the same but on round bases currently,
>>97725659>wiki I shan’t!
>>97725631The basing is so so, nothing special but can be salvaged >>97725626Duh, I did not think about that! Thank you, anon. One reason I am hesitant to rebase them is the headache it was to get some of them ranked up on the first place. They are 5th edition with halberd/shield and double hand weapon, I have parts to make a sword/board regiment also.
>>97725661This is what I assume is the case as well. From AoS rumors it looks like they are turning ogres into cavemen led by women ogres, so Fantasy may have a chance of regaining kino mongol nomad ogres.
>>97725661I guess. I imagine they probably plan to bring back i.e rebox 2 armies per year like how last year was all beastmen and to a lesser extent wood elves and orcs/dwarves before that and brets/tk before that.Question of course is if 2027 is ogres who is the other one? both lizardmen and skaven would be popular but also feel the most "they are aos armies now" of the legends line.
>>97725673bare in mind they increased the base size purely for greater ease of basing and ranking. I've not had a single case of "foot hanging over base" or "guys weapon pushing everyone around him over" since i used the WHFB basing sizes, its made a world of difference.
>Want to run 500pts of vampires>Make out of a bunch of old leftovers>But nothing for a wight lord so order one>Finally arrives>My scratch built necromancer is in the same rough pose with the same baseFug.Now they are brothers i guess.
>>97725683I don't know how the plastic black orcs ever fit on smaller bases. Ranking them up even on the newer big bases was tricky
>>97725756>brother?>yes brother?>do out cloaks inspire dread?>certainly brother, the most dreadful in several baronys>and do they flutter suitably?>like the reaching grasp of deaths sweet embrace brother, what troubles you so?>Well Mannfred said they looked a bit faggy>MANNFED SAID WHAT BROTHER?
Show me your 500pt Border Patrol armies fellas. I need inspiration.
>>97725815Not mine but heres Ogres at 500pts.
>>97725815
Brick on brick violence must be stopped.
>>97726019>AoR Warboss SOVL
>>97726023I love him a lot, but he barely fits on his base. Made up for the whole front rank whiffing all on his own though.
>>97725669
Is the larpfag lurking? I got questions.
>>97726259I'm in here
>>97725770kek
>>97726311How are the candles attached to your helmet, and where in the US is there a Warhammer larp?
Dunkino incoming
>>97726777I like his videos but I don’t know if I’d pay for his site.
>>97727150It's the same kind of tutorials you can find anywhere else. Only sub if you just like Duncan and want to support him.
>>97725637AoS is Fantasy. Same timeline and everything, just different points on the line, same as 30k to 40k . Maybe you mean "it isn't TOW," which is true.
>>97727159>subI don't pay for internet content
Should a war wagon be able to purchase it's equipment, or would that just lead to WAACfags ruining it for everyone else?
>>97727402WAACfags will WAAC no matter what. Make the game fun and flavorful or let it die for good this time.
>>97727406A war wagon with a number of weapon slots would be cool. But then you'd get skews like six repeater handguns. For me and from a historical perspective it would make sense that a war wagon is a static firing position, but I don't think it would necessarily be fun to play against.
Which part of the mini do you enjoy painting the most? For me it would be Leathers.
>>97726039How'd the battle go man? Awesome looking army.
delfbros, we're eating good
>>97727518I like your bases too.
>>97727737kill yourself, Rob
>>97725614Discipline and joy.You must do what sparks joy and do it until it does. If that is painting one dude to minimum 3 colours so you can game, do it. If that is an entire legion of free company militia with OSL then do it.Set a goal that you will enjoy then complete that goal. If you no longer enjoy it by the end, try a different goal next. Seek joy and have the discipline to find it.
>>97727737Is this some new renegade upgrade or an entirely new arcane journal?
>>97727737not really, a giant spawn is 10 points less for +1 S, T, W and D6+1 attacks and stomps with Ld10. It isn't even broken by TOW standards and this is still much much worse.
>>97727845fanrulestreat them seriously enough and people will consider them official
>>97727939Ok, I saw the link in their video. Would much rather read the highlighted parts on the document than listen to these guys for an hour. Podcasts are a pretty bad way of conveying information.
>>97727737>having to rely on Rob the Faggot Wargamer slop to play TOWgrim
Val is at least cool
>>97725756Maybe he’s directly puppeting him, and he mirrors his actions.
>>97726039>>97726023How easy would it be to separate the warboss from the shaman? I love this model but I’d like to try and get two models out of it.
>>97728110You would have to buy a resin recast and carve out the shoulderpad.
I wish GW would make a dual kit that makes either reiksguard on foot or teutogen guardWe need plastic 28mm full plate armour models
>>97726777Damn Duncan is chopped
>>97727345Wrong thread buddy
Beastbros, I am almost done painting my 1k army.But is my list any good?I got:Gorebull, heavy armor, axes of khorgor30 gors (bvll goes her)10 ungors with bows3 minotaurs with g. WeaponTuskgor chariotRazorgor pigGhorgon
>>97728175>We need plastic 28mm full plate armour modelsYeah buddy, those exist
>>97728605I’d personally split the 30 gors into two 15 blocks, but there’s nothing wrong with it. Your single pig might get blown off the board before it can do anything depending on what you’re fighting though.
>>97728605Keep the gors in one block. You'll win every combat off of CR alone. The other anon is right that 2 15-gor blocks would be more appropriate for a smaller game, but if you want to win (which I'm assuming you do, seeing as you're playing beastmen) keep them as a death star.
>>97728764Thanks, I was thinking about seperating 10 gors in a skirmish unit.The pig is ez kill but with minotaurs and a ghorgon on the table this might not be the best choice. We'll see. The pug is mandatory anyway, I love the model.
>>97728796>no TOW at AdepticonThe time for dooming has arrived...
>>97725500Make it 20 gold and when someone does kill the Beastlord in game hand out 20 MnM's or skittles.It is the little things that make just another game into something fun.>There was a small torny I went to in 8th that the dwarf lad brought whisky and if you captured or destroyed the ale wagon he passed you a shot.
>>97728980Probably gonna show the new warriors and knights as a Monday article like they did with marauders. But this is a bummer, not a single based system (TOW, Necromunda, or Blood Bowl) shown, only slop.
>>97728980Yikes.
>>97728737Perrynig, your models never get the attention they deserve due to everyone focusing on your character but I'm here to tell you I think these look amazing.
>>97728980If it’s a new edition for 40k like rumors and predictions suggest, that’ll likely eat all the time up. Still a shame though, but there’s still the cope that specialist games don’t adhere to their normal reveal schedule.
>>97729100It's a two-hour show, so there will 100% show off 11th edition
>>97729100HH is a specialist game and has been pretty consistent at these shows. 11e is gonna dominate for sure, but they could have easily made time for a quick TOW reveal.
>>97729045Oddly, their teaser video mentions MESBG, but that might be entirely due to the weird legal situation GW is in with that game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3SK2urWqrM
>>97728980>no TOW>no Blood BowlGrim
>>97729100Horus heresy is right there anonBut yeah with a new 40k edition to be announced, a spearhead starter set + big new aos wave (including the biggest plastic kit ever made) it's going to be a packed show already
>>97728980We're so back anons. GW knows this game is for Evropeans, not Ameritards and their high fantasy garbage.
>>97729117>>97729129Heresy has the potential to show off new Space Marines and there has been rumors of Primarch related news (though it’s been flip flopping) I wouldn’t put it in the same category as other Specialist games, same with Kill Team basically just being 40k supplements.
>>97729149Kill Team isn't a Specialist game like HH ot TOW are, since it is handled by the main studio tea,m same as Underworlds is
>>97728737wrong thread buddy
Well this is a bit of a bummer. On the other hand, I guess this means we will see new WoC stuff on a random monday like the marauders were revealed a week before that winter preview show.
>>97729200Yeah its not impossible we get TOW stuff on another random Monday. My only counter argument is that people said the same thing for the January preview show we missed and we got nothing after that.
>>97729171Anon... do you know what just happened to you?
>>97729212We were still waiting for the release of the Cathay stuff then, whereas now, outside of rumours and speculation, there isn't up on the release docket for TOW outside of Cathay stuff in separate boxes
>>97729200>>97729212
>>97729249wrong thread, budlet>>97696667
>>97729259We're getting monday news then
>>97729259This is the most generic corpospeak response imaginable. I'm not expecting anything next Monday.
>>97728605I'd go with 20 gors and another set of ungors. Ungors can screen for the chariot and they hold obj better than Gors. Gors want to fight not stand in place. 2 15s ungors with bows, 20 gors with dual weapons. I'd say the minotaurs are better with dual weapon too, but great weapon is fine as well. Personal taste.If you've already got them WYSIWYG and that's the models you have, that's perfectly good. I'd say 20 and 10, run the 10 Gors in skirmish so they can hunt flankers. 360 charge with warband and 2-3 attacks each can usually break anything that wants to give your backside a tickle.
Did cathay flop or why is GW canceling TOW?
>>97729647Cathay didn't flop, the first launch and the recent one sold out immediately.Its just 40k stuff. They gotta print as many plastic kits for their 11e as possible, so less important games get knocked back and delayed releases.
>>97729647neither
>>97728737Unironically these knights are sick and fit the empire statistically with their armor, but something is missing. What can be done to empire-ify them? Giant helmet plumes?
>>97729675Skulls.
>>97729647Neither. It’s just ebbs and flows. Remember last Adepticon when we got Cathay revealed and all the main game AoS got was 4 spearheads
>second stream in a row where tow doesn’t get featured If HH wasn’t the third game I played and still cared about I would be mad.
>>97729647Don't listen to the cope, chinks were a huge miss
>>97729957If that were true they wouldn't rush out a second wave within a few months. They'd be languishing like numerous AoS microfactions that get a pity hero each edition.
>>97729966Slaanesh is probably aos' most unpopular faction after fyreslayers and got a split release too. I don't think the peasants really are a second wave insomuch as the second part of wave 1 if you catch my drift.
>>97729966Yeah, the only invest huge launches in stuff they know will sell. Cathay getting its army in less than a year compared to Votann for example who waited 3 is a great sign of that.
>>97729992The boxes both selling out very quickly is probably a good indication of Cathay selling well.
>>97729997You can still buy the peasant box on the GW store
>>97730042I did see they did a restock across the world. The restock sold out same day in NA. Still available in Europe.
>>97730042Not in the markets that matter...?
>>97729675the proportions are wrong
>>97729997Maybe, I'm just saying I don't think them getting a second wave is indicative of anything sales-wise.
>>97730127GW famously doesn't throw good money chasing after bad money. They drop shit that doesn't sell like a hot potato.
>>97730149>GW famously doesn't throw good money chasing after bad money
>>97730196Sugmar makes money from pay piggies. However shit like Fyreslayers don't and that's why they're about to be squatted.
>>97730149But like I said, the cathay second wave is more like split release rather than an actual second wave. They got revealed only a couple months after the first wave's release.
>>97730217>makes money from pay piggies Nothing is funnier than see TOW fans think they're somehow any different from Siggers and 40kucks. Do you not realize GW has the exact same business model for all of their products?
>>97730290>Nothing is funnier than see TOW fans think they're somehow any different from Siggers and 40kucks.The key difference is that TOW has a much healthier 3rd party scults/proxy culture. Nobody cares and a lot of people like when their opponents use non-GW stuff. Meanwhile 40k players were spamming the new Custodes reveal stream with "I WISH I COULD USE THESE IN 40k!"
>>97730290>Do you not realize GW has the exact same business model for all of their products?I didn't need to buy 3 arcane journals in 40k
>>97730290>Do you not realize GW has the exact same business model for all of their products?They don't, because as you see from the TOW reinforcement army sets and the Horus Heresy (idk what they are called) boxes like the Custodes the business model is quite different. 40k and AoS are more popular and thus get worse deals. Battleforces with maybe 1-2 new sculpts and the rest old stock. Meanwhile TOW and HH being specialist games get better deals with boxes full of only new models for lower prices. I don't know how you miss that the business model is clearly different between the main games and specialist games.
>>97730290>They hate him because he told the truth You know it's bad when my local 40k tournament had more fully painted armies than the TOW scene
>>97730333Can you post a single timestamped warhammer model you own from any system?
>>97730338Sure, which system would you like?
>>97730353Fantasy would be great.
>>97730378
>>97730451>sure I'll post a timestamp>look inside>no timestamp
>>97730451That's not timestamped, also kill yourself Perrymanlet and stop spamming this thread with your off topic historical shit and general toxic negativity.
We are lucky that he is too retarded to disguise his posts well. Imagine a troll like him with an IQ in the triple digits.
>>97730331There's plenty of aos/40k boxes with only new stuff, and plenty of tow boxes with only old stuffI do think the tow deals are generally better though, even for new models. It's the advantage of being a bew system. I remember aos having some amazing boxsets when it was new, some of those start collecting boxes were great.
>>97730464>>97730468NTA but like, that's a ton of effort to rename a file into a valid timestamp if it was just going to be a troll
>>97730482>There's plenty of aos/40k boxes with only new stuff, and plenty of tow boxes with only old stuffAgain read my post. I am talking about the battleforces/reinforcement boxes (and whatever they are called in HH). The deals are better not just because it's a new system (HH has been around for a while) but because it's specialist games. The target audience is different. 40k and AoS customer bases will buy up whatever slop they put out, so they price gouge them more than people who play TOW/HH/mesbg. The target audience for specialist games is older hobbyists who otherwise would not give GW any money because they don't like 40k/AoS for whatever reason.Specialist games are there to capture the people who used to play 40k pre 8th and who used to play Fantasy pre AoS. That's why the deals are better, because the target customer base is more experienced and price sensitive.
>>97730494Are you being intentionally thick? It takes 20 seconds to provide a timestamped pic. Here I just made one to reply to you.
>>97730464>>97730468>"POST ONE WARHAMMER MODEL!!!">*posts it* >"NOOOO NOT THAT ONE!!"Can't say I'm surprised
>>9773051075 IQ confirmed
>>97730500I don't really see how it's much different when aos/40k releases a box full of new miniatures vs when tow does it just because one had army set printed on it and the other reinforcement set. I don't know shit about 30k so I won't comment on it but I assume you're correct.I do have to disagree with the price being better because they're trying to court veteran players or anything, I think it's rather them making the sidegames more appealing because they're smaller. Similar to how aos is much cheaper than 40k from a points per dollar perspective.
>>97730508Are you?Read the filename of the picture.
>>97730533>I do have to disagree with the price being better because they're trying to court veteran players or anything, I think it's rather them making the sidegames more appealing because they're smallerIt's both but they absolutely are courting the older audience because TOW is the same core Fantasy game as it was pre AoS. HH is the same core 40k game pre 8th and mesbg has not changed in terms of its core rules since it released like 25 years ago.
>>97730533>>97730541Just to add to this, 40k and AoS are closer to one another gameplay wise than 40k and HH, AoS and TOW.
>>97730534filenames can be changed, unlike your height
>>97730573Hence why I said >>97730494
>>97730584>renaming files is effort you're retarded
>>97730653>>97730653>>97730653New
For WFRP4, they cracked and threw in a high magic lore in the high elf player guide. But unlike the dark magic lore in corsairs of captain fla-whatever, they didn't put a lore attribute in that I can see. Anyone know if there's any errata or rules bolting one in yet? I thought it might be a ward save for each channelling action - 10+, 9+, etc, but that's in a spell, sort of.
>>97729655>sold out immediately.daily reminther that this means nothing
